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TFR has collected sufficient evidence to prove the guilt of Savchenko

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Acting head of the TFR department, Alexander Drymanov, speaking before the senators, said that, in relation to the Ukrainian pilot Nadezhda Savchenko, the investigation had collected sufficient amounts of evidence. Alexandra Drymanova quotes RIA News:

I can tell you with confidence that we have collected sufficient evidence confirming Savchenko’s guilt in the crimes that we are incriminating. Therefore, the grounds for her release from custody to date are not available.


TFR has collected sufficient evidence to prove the guilt of Savchenko


On the need for the release of Savchenko from custody insists the protection of Ukrainian pilots, accused of involvement in the murder of journalists VGTRK. The US State Department also insists on the release of the Ukrainian suspect, who is used to understanding the cases without receiving information about the investigation and even without the decisions of a court.

According to the representative of the investigation, after the completion of a series of examinations Savchenko will be charged in the final form, and the case will go to court. Savchenko herself, while in the SIZO, has the opportunity to submit her opinion to the public on how she came to Russia. The day before, through lawyers, Savchenko issued a statement saying that she was allegedly kidnapped and handed over to Russian special services Igor Plotnitsky (now the head of the LC).

Many Russians believe that the trial of Savchenko is not just overly delayed, but also allows in Ukraine to glorify the suspect of involvement in the murder. Today, not everyone will remember the names of the dead journalists, but Savchenko becomes the "star" of the screen and even a tool for political public relations in Ukraine and not only.
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  1. Paradoxov
    Paradoxov 30 October 2014 13: 52
    +30
    Many Russians believe that the trial of Savchenko is not only unnecessarily prolonged, but also allows Ukraine to heroize the suspected involvement in the murder ...


    I have long been among them, and in the forefront.
    "Execute, you cannot pardon!"am
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    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 30 October 2014 13: 56
      +15
      Plant it for many, many years and in Kolyma, in a quilted jacket to freeze snot.
      1. Fin
        Fin 30 October 2014 14: 10
        +5
        Quote: Thought Giant
        in a quilted jacket to freeze snot.

        Not only to freeze, but also to make embroideries that hate ruin. And then arrange a photo shoot for the dill magazine.
        Ukrainian pilot Nadezhda Savchenko

        She is not a pilot, but a navigator-operator.
      2. skrgar
        skrgar 30 October 2014 14: 17
        +6
        Quote: Giant thought
        Plant it for many, many years and in Kolyma, in a quilted jacket to freeze snot.

        Do not need Her to the Kolyma .. Let the permafrost "hoe" on the gas pipeline in a robe with a kyle ... to China))
      3. Andrea
        Andrea 30 October 2014 14: 21
        +17
        It was not worth dragging her to Russia, political dividends zero, one unnecessary fuss. They would have spanked there, if it was impatient. Journalists can not be returned.
      4. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 30 October 2014 14: 33
        +5
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Plant her for many, many years and at Kolyma

        The old, forgotten by all and fuck nobody needed, will be freed.
      5. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 30 October 2014 14: 59
        +8
        Again Kolyma ...?! Yes, why are you turning it into a trash heap ...?! Well, there are no "lifelong", no women ... Now - no. Previously, it was in the village of Novaya Palatka, it was closed in the 50s. There, by the way, Lydia Ruslanova was serving time. Well, remember: "Boots, yes boots" ...
    3. Hellraiser
      Hellraiser 30 October 2014 14: 04
      +7
      The US State Department also insists on the release of the Ukrainian suspect, who is used to sorting out cases without receiving information about the investigation and even without the decisions of a court.
      They insist, you know, they’re not used to it, let them wean! And the criminal must be in prison !!! am angry
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 30 October 2014 18: 25
        +3
        Quote: Hellraiser
        who used to understand cases without receiving information about the progress of the investigation and even without the decisions of a court.

        in matters in the territory of other states. they keep their laws holy.
    4. Alex_Popovson
      Alex_Popovson 30 October 2014 14: 29
      +2
      Execute, no mercy!

      What a bloodthirsty you are. I think that before this all the evidence must be made public, and even brought to the West and East. And only then, by hanging, with his head torn off, as it was with Sadamchik.
    5. pies
      pies 30 October 2014 16: 25
      +2
      The logic is unclear why they are holding it and they released the hurricane commanders who bombed Novorossia and were captured or how did they surrender to the mercy of the Russian border guards? What was the reason why they didn’t send it to Magadan?
    6. asater1000
      asater1000 30 October 2014 18: 34
      +3
      There is such a thing. We love PR where it is not needed. She is shown as a gunner-killer who corrected the fire under which journalists from Russia were killed. Rest in peace to them, the guys really took on dangerous and difficult work. Only there every day, they kill children, the elderly, and in general ordinary, civilians. Why, then, on the "road to grandmother", was only her caught?
      1. Normal ok
        Normal ok 30 October 2014 20: 57
        0
        I remember that everyone noted how she kept in the interrogation of the militias. That's why they judge her. To publicly bend. So that others would not be accustomed. Whether there is evidence there or not is not important.
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  2. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 30 October 2014 13: 52
    +10
    There is a lot of blood on this bitch ..!
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 30 October 2014 14: 06
      +5
      This is not even the point. A special department for the investigation of genocide cases has been created under the RF IC. I am professionally versed in preliminary investigation. The timing of the investigation of a rather simple case is surprising. Why did the inpatient psychiatric examination surrender? Why such doubts about the lack of sanity? Well, they were charged, so there was evidence. Why didn't they immediately appoint a "psychiatric hospital"? Why did the terms drag out? There are other circumstances - separate them into separate proceedings. The term of detention has been postponed to January! And this is the work of the whole Department?
      1. atalef
        atalef 30 October 2014 14: 34
        -1
        Quote: siberalt
        TFR has collected sufficient evidence to prove the guilt of Savchenko

        Quote: siberalt
        This is not even the point. A special department for the investigation of genocide cases has been created under the RF IC. I am professionally versed in preliminary investigation. The timing of the investigation of a rather simple case is surprising. Why did the inpatient psychiatric examination surrender? Why such doubts about the lack of sanity? Well, they were charged, so there was evidence. Why didn't they immediately appoint a "psychiatric hospital"? Why did the terms drag out? There are other circumstances - separate them into separate proceedings. The term of detention has been postponed to January! And this is the work of the whole Department?

        And blamed for what?
        So far I have read the only intelligible accusation --- Illegal crossing of the border of the Russian Federation.
        1. aleks 62
          aleks 62 30 October 2014 14: 39
          +5
          ..... Dear !!!! Read carefully ...... One of the points is complicity in the murder of citizens of another country .... hi
          ..... And in general it is interesting that this is so interested in a citizen of a far away country ????? It seems to be not your concern ....
          1. atalef
            atalef 31 October 2014 07: 06
            0
            Quote: aleks 62
            ..... Dear !!!! Read carefully ...... One of the points is complicity in the murder of citizens of another country .... hi
            ..... And in general it is interesting that this is so interested in a citizen of a far away country ????? It seems to be not your concern ....

            Excuse me, but a cadre military - who is in the military service in the war zone and is carrying out the order - a priori (according to all laws)
            has immunity from prosecution (except for the intentional killing of civilians)., but I'm sorry how the UK is going to prove that the fire spotter was hunting for journalists (having managed to isolate them from the total mass of warring militias?)
            Well, illegal border crossing is generally a song.
      2. dmb
        dmb 30 October 2014 15: 20
        +4
        Well, let's try to talk professionally. Savchenko is certainly awkward, but if you use "the law, not a brush", then it would be curious to look at the evidence confirming that she had intent to murder Russian citizens, whether they were journalists or not. The very method of killing with a mortar is certainly great. Are there mortars on the site? explain to the "professionals" about the scattering area. There is no clear explanation for the appearance of Savchenko on the territory of Russia either. I am afraid that the duration of the investigation is solely due to the fact that the Investigative Committee, having bravoly reported everything about its heroic disclosure of Savchenkovsky's atrocity, is terribly afraid of the trial, because even if our court tries to find her guilty of the premeditated murder of a Russian citizen, it will not work in The Hague ... Oh, and Bastrykin swears to himself for the fact that during a personal search they did not find one good cartridge or a bag of marijuana on her. however, it is not yet evening.
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 30 October 2014 22: 56
          0
          Quote: dmb
          The very method of killing with a mortar is certainly great. Are there mortars on the site? explain to the "professionals" about the scattering area.


          I’m still wondering how, having the specialty of the navigator-operator of the Mi-24 helicopter, could she even correct the mortar fire without any special skills and knowledge?
          An art guide (spotter) can be a person who has undergone specialized training at a military educational institution as an artilleryman.

          Navigator-operator is a position for the flight personnel of the Air Force. Of course, the flight crew is well versed in topographic maps and communications systems (of course, the technique being studied), but pilots do not study the materiel of ground artillery, as well as ballistics and St. Petersburg ammunition. They do not study how to make artillery calculations for shooting.
          Of all the artillery, they know only air cannons, the fire from which is carried out with direct fire through the sights installed in the cockpit and anti-aircraft artillery, and how quickly to "make legs" from it, if you get into the zone where it acts during the execution of its mission.
          Question: how was Savchenko able to correct the mortar fire so that the calculation covered the target with one mine?
          And she did this without special training, knowledge and skills in order to do this business, which is completely far from her aviation specialty?

          For reference: in order to cover a target from a mortar with a single mine, you must be a professional artilleryman who knows his job thoroughly, i.e. to be able to determine the initial data for firing in a short time, taking into account all the factors that are related and negative for accurate fire. This is not one day of practice.
          1. wanderer_032
            wanderer_032 30 October 2014 23: 21
            +1
            I also want to add that in no way I want to say that this "citizen" is an innocent lamb and is not involved in anything, because. she was in the "Aydar" punitive battalion at that time, this is a fact confirmed by all.

            But in the Russian pre-trial detention center, she is not at all because of the incident with the journalists, but for completely different "actions".
            In addition, I looked at the data on her biography and came to the conclusion that this "citizen" was very vague in her main specialty.
            She was expelled from the flying university twice as unfit for her profession. In addition, at first she wanted to become a fighter pilot, she studied to be a navigator of the SU-24, and after barely finished "training" she was "assigned" as a navigator-operator in general for the MI-24 helicopter.
            But something tells me that she held this position only formally, because no one took her into his crew, which is not surprising with such and such manners of behavior and communication. She dangled around the airbase like one substance from an ice hole. While the "Svidomo-lads" did not take her to "Aydar" (I cannot say in what capacity), she took root with the punishers.
            As they say one to one stretches (I'm talking about the well-known substance from the hole).

            Separately, about the manners of behavior and communication of this citizen from my observations, I can say that they do not give out in her a person who graduated from a flying university (albeit a military one), but that type of creature in which, as my friend says, the entire biography is written on the face. And according to this biography, the features of a fierce alcoholic and, in general, a person leading an active antisocial lifestyle are discerned on her face and manner of behavior and communication. What is incompatible with the flight profession is known.
    3. ALABAY45
      ALABAY45 30 October 2014 15: 07
      +1
      Stupidly - "loshara"! On the same, if I may say so, "TV star" Vasilyeva - a lot of money, but she is not in jail ... At one time it was necessary to "lean against" the Minister of Defense, you idiot ...!
  3. Stanislav 1978
    Stanislav 1978 30 October 2014 13: 53
    +10
    On the spot, this reptile had to be destroyed. According to the laws of war, a military court to judge.
    1. sergey32
      sergey32 30 October 2014 13: 58
      +3
      Yes, she will receive her quarter as an ordinary civil court, in extreme cases, two pieces of gold.
    2. aszzz888
      aszzz888 30 October 2014 13: 58
      +3
      To a bitch, a bitch.
  4. Styx
    Styx 30 October 2014 13: 54
    +14
    A very unforgettable person, after watching the interview with her, shot by the militias, an unpleasant aftertaste remained: an eerie woman. A friend said: Lesbian masculine.
    1. Andrea
      Andrea 30 October 2014 14: 33
      0
      Hmm? For me it's so pretty.
      1. Styx
        Styx 30 October 2014 14: 42
        +4
        Find an interview in captivity, and then after watching try to say it yourself again
  5. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 30 October 2014 13: 54
    +7
    Masculine woman. How did she manage to get a commission at the flight school? Although I know. Bandera in the outskirts, anyway. If only for the Nazis. Hang a bitch on a bitch.
    1. Styx
      Styx 30 October 2014 14: 03
      +1
      Yes, what’s there in the flight school, it will pass the male qualification in armwrestling lol
    2. Normal ok
      Normal ok 30 October 2014 21: 00
      0
      And what, in flight schools are beauty contest :)
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  6. Enot_33
    Enot_33 30 October 2014 13: 54
    +10
    Sometimes I’m very sorry that Russia has a moratorium on the death penalty. Then we need to learn from the Chinese.
    1. Tyumen
      Tyumen 30 October 2014 17: 52
      +2
      To shoot officials for bribes?
  7. Agarkov Vitaliy
    Agarkov Vitaliy 30 October 2014 13: 55
    +5
    By the way, how much has she already been in jail? It is time to transfer the matter to court.
    1. alien50
      alien50 30 October 2014 15: 53
      -1
      By the way, how much has she already been in jail?

      That's right! I’m sitting and thinking .... And why the hell am I feeding her a bitch from my taxes?
      Strangle her in the cell, and business something !!
      why the cock her PR, vandamoshka Bandera !!!
  8. klavyr
    klavyr 30 October 2014 13: 55
    +2
    If so - then her trial!
  9. RUSS
    RUSS 30 October 2014 13: 55
    +4
    It seems that the issue has been resolved with gas, can Ukrainians now take up the Donbass?


    Russia and Ukraine agree to resume gas supplies
    Russia and Ukraine agreed on basic conditions for the resumption of gas supplies to Ukraine in the winter.


    This was stated by Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation Alexander Novak, reports TASS. According to Novak, a package of documents will be prepared that will stipulate technical issues, including an additional agreement to the current contract of Gazprom and Naftogaz.

    Novak added that the European Commission fully agrees with Russia's position on the settlement of the Russian-Ukrainian gas dispute.

    The specific parameters of the agreement have not yet been announced. Earlier, Russian negotiators said that the signing of the winter gas package would take place if Ukraine and the EC agree on a bilateral protocol that includes financial guarantees for Kiev to pay for Russian gas.

    Gazprom’s “Winter Plan” provides for Ukraine to repay $ 3,1 billion by the end of the year for already supplied Russian gas and purchase the missing volumes at a price of $ 385 per thousand cubic meters on a prepayment basis. The most difficult is the last condition, since Kiev needs a volume of 4 billion cubic meters in the amount of $ 1,6 billion.

    The total debt of Ukraine for previously delivered Russian gas is estimated at $ 5 billion. It mainly accumulated in the first half of 2014, when Kiev stopped paying for deliveries from Russia.

    Gas from Russia to Ukraine ceased to flow in mid-June. This was preceded by an increase in prices from Russia from $ 285 to $ 485 per thousand cubic meters. The increase in tariffs was due to the cancellation of discounts provided by Gazprom in 2010 and 2013.
    1. Styx
      Styx 30 October 2014 14: 01
      +5
      So, sir, I did not understand - de the key phrase: "MONEY, as an advance payment, transferred to the GAZprom brush" ??
    2. mamont5
      mamont5 30 October 2014 14: 02
      +4
      Quote: RUSS
      It seems that the issue has been resolved with gas, can Ukrainians now take up the Donbass?


      In this form, it was solved long ago. In the morning money - in the evening gas. But there is no money. And those who want to pay for Ukraine are also not observed. And that was all. Our delegation has left Brussels. Ukrainians will find money for payment, then ours will return.
    3. Funnels
      Funnels 30 October 2014 14: 19
      +5
      according to the news they say that ours left negotiations. while Ukraine and Europe do not agree on payment.
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 30 October 2014 14: 35
      +1
      Quote: RUSS
      Russia and Ukraine agree to resume gas supplies

      And where is the contract? Russia left the negotiations, Nichrome did not sign and did not agree.
    5. alien50
      alien50 30 October 2014 15: 55
      0
      But he isn’t solved!
      No money, no gas!
  10. Prager
    Prager 30 October 2014 13: 56
    +1
    her life sentence, period!
  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 October 2014 13: 56
    +4
    This larva was one of the first in the lists for the elections to steal, from "Batkovshchina". They made her almost a saint, innocently injured.
  12. DPZ
    DPZ 30 October 2014 13: 59
    +2
    Today, not everyone will remember the names of the dead journalists, but Savchenko becomes the "star" of the screen and even a tool for political PR in Ukraine and beyond.
    that's certainly noticed!
  13. Old Man Leader
    Old Man Leader 30 October 2014 14: 02
    +8

    Fighters of the 32nd checkpoint: “The militants turned out to be more people of the word than our generals” (video)
  14. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 30 October 2014 14: 02
    +2
    Stanislav 1978 SU
    On the spot, this reptile had to be destroyed ...

    I totally agree with you, even in Zapadentsy they would have forgotten long ago, and now a bunch of "human rights activists" will shout like about PUSK to the whole world, and the junta will make a hero out of her.
  15. man_of_war
    man_of_war 30 October 2014 14: 03
    +3
    IMHO, the court will be held and the appropriate sentence will be issued, exactly when it will be more painful for the Krajina and the Yankees with a geyropa and more profitable for us ....
  16. SAM 5
    SAM 5 30 October 2014 14: 03
    +2
    I do not understand why chew snot. Guilt proved, what else is needed?
  17. askort154
    askort154 30 October 2014 14: 04
    +3
    I don't understand why our legal authorities are pulling rubber. Oh - either, or. And it turns out they are spinning the second "star", after Vasilyeva. "The woman with the scythe" has already received its own developers from this, putting her in her electoral list at number 2. What's going on with this, it's not clear ?!
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 30 October 2014 14: 08
      +5
      So it is necessary on the spot in the "garrison cap" lemon. Is it cruel? After all, it was she who took an active part in the torture, offered to sell for organs, etc.
  18. igorche
    igorche 30 October 2014 14: 07
    +3
    I wonder who so much inflates the theme of this Savchenko? And who raised this topic at all? Is there a little dill freaks? Forget about her and let her die quietly somewhere in the camp
  19. alexeypill
    alexeypill 30 October 2014 14: 08
    +2
    At her stake, let him fly.
  20. Bronik
    Bronik 30 October 2014 14: 10
    +3
    If it really was she who directed mortars at our journalists, she needs to be immediately released and taken to the Rostov Region. Let her cross the border and blow up, she will have time to get there alive.
  21. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 30 October 2014 14: 14
    +8
    "Will sit, I said!" (c) "The meeting place cannot be changed"

    Serving of humor:

    Ukraine, ATO zone. Call from the "boiler":
    - Comrade General, there are 200 of us, 200 separatists, who are born !?
    - Now send the tanks !!!
    - Comrade General, there are 100 of us, 300 separatists! Tanks will be!?
    - They will ...
    - Comrade General, there are 10 of us, 390 separatists! Separatists ask: - will there be tanks ??? ...
  22. Turk
    Turk 30 October 2014 14: 15
    +3
    Quote: Giant thought
    Plant it for many, many years and in Kolyma, in a quilted jacket to freeze snot.

    It is impossible in a quilted jacket, only an embroidered shirt.
    1. TECHNOLOGY
      TECHNOLOGY 30 October 2014 14: 23
      +3
      Plant it for many, many years and in Kolyma, in a quilted jacket to freeze snot.Why clog the cattle there beautiful places?
  23. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 30 October 2014 14: 22
    +3
    As Ivan the Terrible said there, he put him on a barrel of gunpowder. Let him fly!
  24. lichide
    lichide 30 October 2014 14: 30
    +2
    And if she had a hut, but a cherry orchard, and a good husband, and a bunch of small guys and a yarn, a garn woman would work with her!
  25. kimanas
    kimanas 30 October 2014 14: 34
    +2
    And what? Julia didn’t come to court? - No need, climbed into the rain.
  26. propolsky
    propolsky 30 October 2014 14: 36
    +1
    The law is one for all: guilty - plant!
  27. kit-kat
    kit-kat 30 October 2014 14: 36
    +1
    The media is paying too much attention to this person. Now let us devote to each killer turns in publications and time on TV?
  28. sv68
    sv68 30 October 2014 14: 55
    +1
    Skr collected evidence, so what's the problem? restore the death penalty and shoot this scum
  29. mik0588
    mik0588 30 October 2014 15: 10
    +1
    Why so many "yells"? This instance is far from the last and therefore it is simply necessary to work out the whole scheme, with all the nuances! And there on the knurled one (there are a lot of examples in history) ... The forest is cut, there would be fewer chips ...
  30. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 30 October 2014 16: 19
    0
    In Durkee goat and injections into a plant turn.
  31. zol1
    zol1 30 October 2014 16: 37
    0
    Plant it for many, many years and in Kolyma, in a quilted jacket to freeze snot. Why clog the beautiful places with cattle?


    Two birches is enough for this bitch!
  32. SeAl2014
    SeAl2014 30 October 2014 17: 15
    +2
    No need to dirty the high rank of a pilot by her name.
    She's just "Nadka the spotter".
    For this, and will sit.
  33. galantmen1980
    galantmen1980 30 October 2014 17: 48
    +1
    information for consideration - she is now a People’s Deputy to the Supreme Council of Ukraine according to Tymoshenko’s lists - insanity on morazme - living bitch together is already a force am
    1. SeAl2014
      SeAl2014 1 November 2014 07: 40
      0
      She is under investigation in a pre-trial detention center. In Ukraine, even if they are elected presidents in absentia. Will sit. And it is right.
  34. Siberian
    Siberian 30 October 2014 18: 35
    +2
    After the exchange of prisoners, witnesses of her heroism appeared, which, apparently, significantly helped the investigation. I watched her interview - she holds on very confidently and speaks foldedly, she looked much more professional than the interviewer who was nervous, made all kinds of passes with her hands, and lost a pencil. And she quite - held on like a star, seized the initiative - a difficult little thing.
  35. petr28
    petr28 30 October 2014 23: 25
    0
    I wonder when our media, and not only will work in Russian, but not copying others ...
  36. oleggun
    oleggun 31 October 2014 06: 44
    0
    How many people have died because of such people!