Rocket and lustration

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We found, of course, time for lustration. For the second day in a row, the world media discussed who was to blame for the crash of the Antares launch vehicle with the Cygnus space cargo ship, which smashed the American Wallops space center into pieces, collapsed Orbital Sciences corporation shares and destroyed insurance companies. There are three answer options: Americans, Russians, and we, Ukrainians. All three countries had a hand in creating this apparatus. November 4 the causes of the explosion should be discussed at a meeting of the heads of space agencies of the countries mentioned. But there is no one to speak on behalf of Ukraine. As part of the lustration, not only the Hero of Ukraine Yuriy Alekseev was dismissed, but also his first deputy.



I think a lot of generalizing analytical research, satirical plays and scenarios for tragicomedy will be written about the current period in the life of the country. But fate decreed in such a way that while we have to live in it. And to live in an era of change, as the Chinese correctly noted, this is an unenviable thing. What you have to make sure constantly.

We already wrote about lustration and that the start of this campaign led to a paralysis of the work of the state apparatus. The other day the topic received a logical continuation. In America, the spacecraft exploded. More precisely, the launch vehicle Antares with the cargo ship Cygnus, which was supposed to deliver to the ISS more than two tons of cargo. It happened live: the launch was broadcast on the NASA website.

The trouble is that the Antares rocket was originally a joint development of the United States and Ukraine with the participation of Russia. The main "owner" of the rocket was Orbital Sciences Corporation: its shares on the New York Stock Exchange fell 18% after News about the explosion.

But the most unpleasant thing is that the rocket fell right on the launch pad and caused a strong fire. The Wallops Space Center has suffered tremendous damage, and the launch complex has been virtually destroyed. In this light, the vigorous statement of the astronauts with the ISS that they are provided with food until March 2015 can not but rejoice: the next start from Wallops will probably be possible not earlier than the spring-summer of next year. How to joke in social networks, you have to eat up what is.

Not a joke to insurance companies. The rocket was insured and reinsured by all leading offices in this field. But even financial strength fades away before the scale of possible expenses. The figures call from $ 2 to $ 5 billion. This is the minimum and maximum damage that can be caused to the spaceport, rocket, ship, owners of the burnt equipment and astronauts. Naturally, there is a big and exciting search for the culprit. And in this situation it is very important for Ukraine to defend itself against attacks in time. It’s not a fact that material “charges” for a rocket will be rolled out to us, but reputational losses may turn out to be enormous. It would not hurt Ukraine’s participation in the investigation of the incident. But who will agree on this, if the space agency does not have a manual - is it lustrated?

Meanwhile, the media is slowly beginning to form its own investigative pool around the Antares-Cygnus disaster. The NASA’s statement that there were no problems before the start was added to the fire of curiosity.

According to information from open sources, the developer of the launch vehicle Antares is an American company Orbital Sciences Corporation. However, the development of its first stage was entrusted to the Dnepropetrovsk Yuzhnoye design bureau. And the AJ-26 engines are modifications of the NK-33 engines manufactured by Russian SNTK them. N.D. Kuznetsova. Therefore, there are three potential applicants for the title of “father of an accident”.

According to one version, voiced by the media, the cause of the accident was the engines of the first stage of Ukrainian production. At the Southern Machine-Building Plant, this version was refuted. But they could not refute the involvement in the assembly of the rocket, since this fact is well known and is proudly reported on the KB website.

Moreover, during previous successful launches (there were three such), the plant rightly boasted of its participation in an international project and called other contractors from the Ukrainian side.

“22 on April 2013 of the year 00 00 minutes, Kyiv time, from the Space Flight Center on Wallops Island, located in the Atlantic Ocean 240 km from Washington, successfully launched the first launch of the Antares launch vehicle. The lead developer of the PH is Orbital Science Corporation (USA).

The launch vehicle is intended primarily for delivering cargo to the International Space Station, as well as for launching commercial and state-owned space vehicles. The launch vehicle consists of two stages and the spacecraft Signus (third stage).

The basic design of the first stage of the Antares LV was developed by the Yuzhnoye design office, manufactured by the Southern Machine-Building Plant in cooperation with the Ukrainian enterprises Khartron-ARKOS (Kharkiv), Kievpribor (Kiev), Khartron-YUKOM (Zaporizhia), " CHEZARA "," Rapid "(Chernigov) and others.

Preparation of the Antares launch vehicle for launching, its testing and launching was carried out with the participation of specialists from the State Enterprise Design Bureau Yuzhnoye, State Enterprise PO YuMZ, and the Scientific Production Association Khartron-ARKOS (end of quotation).

In short, we worked there tightly and thoroughly. A large group of enterprises. If necessary, someone will do scapegoats.

The Russian side, in turn, actually refutes its thorough participation in the construction of the rocket. It also minimizes ours. According to the editor of the journal "Cosmonautics News" Igor Afanasyev, Antares is not an American-Ukrainian, but a purely American rocket, in the manufacture of which some elements made in Russia and Ukraine were used.

Apparently, there were fewer Russian elements or there was no obvious suspicion towards them. In any case, the Russian engine manufacturer, OAO Kuznetsov, reported that the American side had not yet received any requests for assistance in investigating the causes of the rocket explosion.

At the same time, representatives of Orbital Sciences Corporation have already invited Ukraine to participate in the investigation. In particular, the invitation is addressed to the Ukrainian state-owned enterprise Yuzhnoye Design Bureau named after M.K. Yangel. Formality or bell?

The first meeting of the heads of the space agencies of Russia, Ukraine and the USA on November 4 should give an answer to this question. But there is no one to represent Ukraine in this “debriefing”: an outstanding scientist, academician in the field of the space industry, chairman of the State Space Agency of Ukraine Yuriy Alekseev is lustrated from office on formal grounds. His only fault, as I already wrote, is that he led the agency for many years - under Kuchma, under Yushchenko, and under Yanukovych. At the same time, his first deputy was also fired. And the rest of the "specialists in space" fled to leave and sick leave to postpone the exciting moment of lustration.

While at the cosmodrome, as far as I know, experts flew from the Yuzhny Design Bureau. They will have to participate in the search for an answer to the question of which malfunction of the Antares rocket led to its crash. As they say, without cover from the state and its influential officials. Our state, you understand, is not up to the rocket. And all the more so not to "Yuzhmash". And the only officials who at least really understand something in the technical specifics of the issue are lustrated in the name of democracy. As for me, idiocy, in its brightness rivaling the rocket explosion.

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  1. +22
    31 October 2014 06: 57
    In the meantime, I suggest that Russian cosmonauts on the ISS sell food to Amers at restaurant prices! laughing
    1. +6
      31 October 2014 07: 02
      Russia offered US assistance (we are not animals, unlike them), and our Progress has already started to the ISS!
      1. +2
        31 October 2014 07: 16
        Quote: vdtomsk
        our Progress has started to the ISS!


      2. +5
        31 October 2014 07: 35
        Progress then started almost immediately after the fall of Antares, i.e. he was ready in advance. Now many draw parallels, but did Russia have any information that Antares was doomed to death? Even so, we did the right thing to not intervene!
        1. +1
          31 October 2014 14: 36
          But what about the joke of D. Rogozin that the Americans will have to use a trampoline to deliver cargo to the ISS?
      3. +1
        31 October 2014 13: 03
        This is normal, rockets do not fall only for those who do not launch them. We also have unsuccessful launches, but as far as I know in case of an emergency, the program for removing the rocket from the launch pad is activated. For some reason, Amers did not succeed.
      4. +1
        1 November 2014 07: 00
        It is a pity that there were no Ukrainian cosmonauts in the rocket - Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk and Kolomoisky)))
    2. +3
      31 October 2014 07: 14
      At the prices of an intergalactic restaurant in the constellation Alpha Centauri!
      1. +4
        31 October 2014 08: 47
        Alpha Centauri (Proxima) is a star, not a constellation. Learn materiel and do not watch Prokopenko’s programs.
        1. +1
          31 October 2014 14: 37
          Alpha is actually a star, and Centaurus is just the same constellation laughing
        2. +1
          31 October 2014 19: 48
          I do not watch anything other than German porn. Hochma. Like my comment. And I know the materiel perfectly (regarding me) Regrettably not a space marines.
    3. 0
      31 October 2014 14: 34
      and only for Russian rubles fellow as a last resort for yuan wink
    4. 0
      31 October 2014 17: 00
      Quote: belovur
      In the meantime, I suggest that Russian cosmonauts on the ISS sell food to Amers at restaurant prices!

      Russian version of McDonald's in orbit.
  2. +11
    31 October 2014 06: 57
    It is reported that no one will work. (Specialists are fired, how can they be fired who developed personally produced equipment, rockets, etc.). These people usually work, rather than jumping around the squares they create !.
    So there will be more good specialists in Russia.
    And whoever rides, in principle, cannot work, just rally and beg.
    1. +6
      31 October 2014 07: 06
      And did someone work there this year?
  3. +2
    31 October 2014 07: 02
    Right now they’ll begin to sculpt massively from elephant flies smile Maybe the Americans are smart enough to actually investigate and find out the real causes of the accident, but there are a lot of parasites in the world who would like to use this situation to raise their ratings, cause moral damage to competitors, etc.
    In short, we are waiting for the circus
    1. +5
      31 October 2014 07: 16
      Yeah. Can we also send them our "humanitarian aid"? laughing
      1. sq
        +1
        31 October 2014 08: 05
        It would be nice, but redundant.
        1. +1
          31 October 2014 15: 05
          Quote: kvm
          It would be nice, but redundant.

          redundantly, this is when this one arrives ...
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  4. +3
    31 October 2014 07: 05
    We must jump higher!
  5. +9
    31 October 2014 07: 09
    Dear author, you probably turned on Russia out of habit. In this case, Russia has nothing to do with this incident. All questions to the Americans and "free" Ukraine. As for lustration, what they gave birth to, they grew up.
    1. +1
      31 October 2014 10: 29
      ...... I got the impression after reading the article that the author is very worried about Vuykaina ...... Late ..... Bobik died ... wink
  6. +3
    31 October 2014 07: 09
    Ukraine lustered the space program; both eggs top leaders are "cut off".
    1. +1
      31 October 2014 14: 40
      in the term "lustration" the first two letters are asked to be replaced with a combination [ka]
  7. 0
    31 October 2014 07: 10
    I think that in this case you need to use Occam's razor and not introduce entities beyond measure! Accidents were and unfortunately will be, no one is safe from this! Although, since the rocket is private, the owners wailed it in order to get an insurance ... Eco was not seen! This is capitalism!
    And the fact that Ukrainians will slam their cosmic and avistroenie is stupidity, which future generations will have to pay for when sobering comes!
    1. 0
      31 October 2014 14: 42
      The main damage is from the destruction of the cosmodrome. Therefore, the question of the main "insurance beneficiary" is still open lol And the version of public-private conspiracy cannot be ruled out either. am
    2. 0
      31 October 2014 19: 43
      Saw the jigli!
  8. +2
    31 October 2014 07: 11
    Catch Ukrainians help from overseas owners in the form of compensation for the restoration of the cosmodrome, no need to thank, all this from the heart.
  9. +6
    31 October 2014 07: 12
    So it turns out it was a salute in honor of the closure of the Ukrainian rocket industry! It’s funny if it weren’t so sad. Now they will plant their little son-homies, who will safely surrender the area, sell equipment, maybe they will sell some land. And the money received will be used to develop democracy, of course.
    1. +1
      31 October 2014 14: 44
      the algorithm has already been tested three times - in the Baltic states
  10. +1
    31 October 2014 07: 13
    Now the usual shuffling of guilt on each other will begin in such cases, at best, attempts to prove that it is not our fault. The main work will be on specialists who developed the technique, every screw knows, and not on the leaders. But the leadership determines the policy of the investigation, and its absence will undoubtedly affect the outcome. So Ukraine has a very good chance of becoming a scapegoat.
  11. +2
    31 October 2014 07: 17
    If you don’t get to the real reasons, to the khan’s company. So digging will be of high quality, without any policy. But what will be voiced is a big question.
    What the dill will squeak is not even interesting. And what about striped ears - let's listen. Maybe the "brain maidan" is not as contagious as they say about it?
    1. +1
      31 October 2014 07: 38
      Mountain shooter ....... So they will dig efficiently, without any politics.


      Without politics, nothing is done around Russia. Therefore, it is already alarming that
      were not invited to investigate representatives of Russia. What objectivity can
      now to expect from the US and Ukraine ?! The "investigation" of the Boeing crash is an example of this.
      Everywhere must be conclusions - Russia (Putin) is to blame.
  12. +2
    31 October 2014 07: 23
    not figs to this ukroyankesovoy adventure also to drag Russia-our there horns legs and a tail of a trochka, and even that is clearly used without the permission of the relevant organizations.
  13. 0
    31 October 2014 07: 23
    Progress is evident, comrades Americans are going the right way.
  14. +4
    31 October 2014 07: 51
    Putin is to blame again! Mattresses, cook trampolines! Hto don’t jump! laughing drinks
  15. +2
    31 October 2014 08: 12
    Who does not ride - that Europe! And who jumps - that dill!
    1. 0
      31 October 2014 10: 07
      I’m not jumping, and I’m not a European, but a Russian. And in general, now Europe is almost equal to p.id.ar.
      Strongly disagree with the chant, she does not offer an alternative: either gay or crest. No-no-no, I'm not one of these.
  16. leglun
    0
    31 October 2014 08: 20
    So let hohlozhidy teach Americans to jump and scream, who does not ride he died !!!
  17. 0
    31 October 2014 09: 46
    I completely agree with the author. big plus article.
  18. +1
    31 October 2014 09: 46
    But this "... potential applicants for the title of" father of the accident "three ..." is not necessary, from a sore head to a healthy one. Themselves further assert "... the development of its first stage was entrusted to the Dnepropetrovsk design bureau Yuzhnoye. And the AJ-26 engines are a modification of the NK-33 engines manufactured by the Russian SNTK ...". Uncle Sam "modified" something there himself, and Yuzhnoye Design Bureau "developed" the 1st stage. What claims can there be against us, against the Russian Federation?
    1. +1
      31 October 2014 14: 50
      Why did they sell the engines for the 1s N70 rocket ready to manufacture, which were released after the closure of the Soviet lunar program? Well, mattress toppers could not create at least the same engines in twenty years - they would have waited another twenty years. And now we, too, are "potential candidates for the title ..." No, gentlemen, two bolts for you and three plugs. bully
  19. +1
    31 October 2014 10: 09
    article is normal without much quirks. But no information.
    Water is water, like 90% of articles on VO. And sometimes deliberate emissions for the "Ukrainian theme"
    Once again, I repeat, in order to avoid risks, the guilty will be found. Even if "Putin set Antares on fire personally" - no one will allow "Putin" from any side - American, Ukrainian or Russian (there are generally more contractors for other countries)
    VO-stop jumping on any topic! It's time to return to normal analytics and not shout and jump in every topic. It’s impossible to read. The brain begins to deteriorate from the endless cheers of patriots, "korovasdohlausseda" and other narrow-minded ...
    1. 0
      31 October 2014 14: 11
      Quote: Cristall
      Once again, in order to avoid risks, the guilty will be found.


      This is a private company. In her hands and cards. If you have already taken the path of space outsourcing, you must be prepared for such problems. as in the tale of the priest and his worker Balda. You would not chase pop for cheapness. Elon Musk rubs his hands. You can have a different attitude to his ideas. but choosing from scratch deserves respect. There are among the rich romance of space. and not only the extractors. Although the harsh reality also forces Max to come to the conclusion that without broad cooperation and state support his idea will somehow turn into an expensive fake. But in this case, he has reason to gloat. As they like to say nothing personal business is business.
  20. hard
    +3
    31 October 2014 10: 52
    Quote: belovur
    In the meantime, I suggest that Russian cosmonauts on the ISS sell food to Amers at restaurant prices!

    The price of food for astronauts is much steeper than the coolest restaurant.
  21. hard
    0
    31 October 2014 11: 03
    Quote: Temer
    Alpha Centauri (Proxima) is a star, not a constellation. Learn materiel and do not watch Prokopenko’s programs.

    That's for sure! REN TV is time to go to hell. "Cheburashka" on the moon (who saw them?), Meteorites from Mars (fucking! 2nd space for Mars 5,03 km / sec), British scientists, witchcraft, etc. crap. Zadolbali with nonsense.
    1. 0
      31 October 2014 14: 55
      These you my friend in vain lol With interest on the box, lately I watched only the historical cycle about the Slavs from Zadornov (that the Russians are the heirs of the Hyperboreans) and how funny TV shows from Prokopenko to REN-TV. Hello to Chernobrov!
  22. hard
    0
    31 October 2014 11: 07
    Quote: sibi
    We must jump higher!

    Faster, higher, stronger!!!
  23. +1
    31 October 2014 13: 56
    Offer the hero of Ukraine a place at the Samara plant "Progress"
  24. +1
    31 October 2014 17: 54
    I don’t understand something. So let's say I buy a computer with a guarantee, and then I suddenly decide to upgrade it, remove the seals and, for example, change the thermal grease and the cooling system. And then I will disperse it. When it burns down, I will blame the company manufacturer and demand a warranty replacement.
    And the hedgehog is understandable that in this case I will be to blame myself and I can’t have any complaints against the manufacturer, I’ve got to upgrade myself.
    So let Russia not be here involved, let them brew themselves.
    1. 0
      31 October 2014 19: 09
      This is all correct, but the main thing for our opponents is to get rid of us as soon as possible, because there is an information war. It does not matter that later it turns out that we have nothing to do with this. this is a "failure of outdated Soviet technology" and people went to waste and the rest does not matter anymore. hiAnd so - in everything ...
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  26. 0
    1 November 2014 11: 50
    Strange, no one even hinted that Antares self-destructed at the Start command!
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