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Great Ukrainian freebie

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Great Ukrainian freebieIn Ukraine, a tragedy occurred: as a result of the Bandera sabbath of 22 in February, it turned into “Edin Krajina” in American order, in which great ukry live, only by inertia calling themselves “Ukrainians”. They were captured by the belief in the great Ukr freebie, that they, “Tse Europe”, will become Europe tomorrow. Those who keep their minds are persecuted and beaten up as “quilted jackets”, Colorado ”or“ separates ”who cannot understand and appreciate this great chimera.

All the more so that people from Europe agree with them: of course, ukry are Europeans, well, or almost, you just have to make one last effort ... It all depends on you! That is, they are held by useful idiots who, one way or another, can be useful as plumbers and dishwashers.

I came to this conclusion, reflecting on the behavior of my acquaintances in Donetsk: they live between the airport and the station, that is, in the heat of the moment, they are Russian and they are for Novorossia, but there is one among them who kept saying to me very recently phone, that "this is all your Putin, it prevents us from becoming Europe."

And other observers, to take at least Wasserman, note that many of their long-time acquaintances in Ukraine seemed to be obsessed with everything on the topic “Putin and Europe.” UkroSMI happily declare on this occasion that even the Russian-speaking population supports the Bandera Krajina, and, unfortunately, here lies only about the scale of this phenomenon.

This is the result not only of media blasting, there is something irrational in it.

A person is mesmerized when he becomes a witness historical events, turns, for many months literally the entire population is seized by some kind of emotional fever, historians of the Great October Revolution note. Most begin to believe in a miracle, it seems to them possible, literally tomorrow.

In hungry Petrograd, everyone was in an excited state, not so much because of the devastation, as they were waiting for extraordinary events that would magically quickly arrange everything in a new way, and everyone would be happy. Not only the common people, soldiers and commissioners, but also a huge part of the intelligentsia shared these feelings: “Jesus Christ is in the white halo of roses ahead,” wrote the great poet A. Block at that time. Mayakovsky was touched when he heard revolutionary soldiers sing his poems: “Eat pineapples and chew grouse, your last day comes, bourgeois ...”

All this is repeated now in Krajina, only the role of the communist utopia is performed by the European democratic utopia. Today, it overshadows the people, and they do not see, or do not attach importance to the fact that the country is plunging into chaos, that Ukraine is no longer there ...

There are people, cities, enterprises, the Verkhovna Rada and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but these are all fragments of the former Ukraine. “Country” is communications, diverse relations between people and its institutions, they make the country a unique system, just as the bonds between atoms and cells determine the properties of inanimate and living matter — they opened the world, unfortunately, only in the middle of the twentieth century, scientists Bertalanffy and Prigogine, but the policy does not draw conclusions from this, or do not want to do.

Destroy the connections between the elements, and you will destroy the system, although its material substances will remain. They will be forced to establish new connections among themselves, to build a new system. This is a painful process, and no one knows in advance what new connections will be established, and what system they will give birth to, in this case, the country. Communications in society that were in Ukraine before February 22, 2014, have already been destroyed, or destroyed.

The Bandera revolution destroys precisely the ties, relations that existed in the "old Ukraine", and tries to establish new links between its fragments, in this case nationalist, Nazi, supposedly in the name of the European "United Kraina". This is achieved through intimidation and pogroms (Odessa, Mariupol, Kharkov) or a clear civil war (Donbass), but there will also be the phenomenon of “night of long knives” (when “revolution devours its children”), and everything will end, the story says, a banal ruin .

The driving force of any revolution is some great dream idea that is understandable to everyone, and the majority accepts it, so the revolution goes its own way to the end. The great Ukrsky dream is about the European future, its strength is that you can go to Europe and see everything with your own eyes, rather than take it for granted, as many people once believed in the fictional European Marx in his office.

In fact, this is a dream of a great freebie, to be “for so” in a wealthy Europe, you just have to renounce everything Russian, in yourself and in your own history, and break with Russia to become a European, such is the condition of Europe. Yes ... the biblical parable about the sale of the birthright for a mess of pottage has not lost its relevance. And you can read where it leads ...

It was on this freebie that the people were caught ... The people as a whole are trusting, like a child, “onizdeti” - it was not by chance that this new word was born, it accurately reflects the deep meaning of the events in the former Ukraine. New contacts in the Bertalanffy-Prigogine community will be established by these new people “onizhedeti”. They are fully confident that it is enough to put "honest and good people" at the head of the state, the army, in general everywhere - and will become "Edin Krain" Europe.

Corruption and bureaucracy will fall, and even Putin will not be able to save them, because they are his “agents”, local and European demagogues assure the poor people, while the country is being destroyed literally before our eyes. "It is sad to live in this world, gentlemen!" - the great Russian and Ukrainian writer N.V. told the bitter truth about the future (our present) long ago. Gogol.
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 October 2014 08: 33
    +54
    They were seized by the belief in a great Ukrainian freebie, that they, “tse Europe”, would become Europe tomorrow.

    And this faith has almost destroyed them.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 30 October 2014 08: 36
      +42
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And this faith has almost destroyed them.

      And in the end, they will remain at the broken "European trough"!
      1. 12423 student
        12423 student 30 October 2014 08: 47
        +47
        The most expensive human quality is stupidity, because it costs the most! And it’s not uncommon when other people suffer because of other people's stupidity.
        1. tkhonov66
          tkhonov66 30 October 2014 14: 43
          +14
          "...
          The most expensive human quality is stupidity, because it costs the most!
          ..."
          .
          and EVERY BARAN - through thoughtlessness wandered into the "Maidan"
          - YES TO BE CUT !!!
          8 - ((
        2. kotvov
          kotvov 30 October 2014 18: 18
          +1
          And it’s not uncommon when other people suffer because of other people's stupidity.
          if only stupidity, some just prudently use, tse Europe, while stuffing their pockets.
        3. WKS
          WKS 31 October 2014 10: 22
          +1
          Quote: student 12423
          The most expensive human quality is stupidity, because it costs the most! And it’s not uncommon when other people suffer because of other people's stupidity.

          On the one hand it is. And on the other ... Imagine a society consisting only of smart, otherwise rational. Perhaps the very existence of such a society is problematic. Since the origins of terrestrial civilization is when one clever and ambitious savage managed to organize and submit to his will a dozen not smart, but trusting and obedient. The vast majority of people belong to this particular group. Without them, humanity would now continue to live in caves or primitive huts. There is a hypothesis that Neanderthals had better mental abilities than Cro-Magnons, but, unlike the latter, they could not blindly obey someone else's will. It is for this reason that there are no Neanderthals among us, and only one human species dominates and builds civilization, where the majority consists of the naive and gullible.
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      3. APES
        APES 30 October 2014 09: 01
        +50
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        they will stay


        the newly elected parliament of Ukraine made its first appeal:

        "Europe !!! We are crazy about you !!!"

        Europe replied: "You are crazy without us"

        P / S FREEZERS WILL NOT
        1. VladVlad
          VladVlad 31 October 2014 12: 39
          0
          It would be more correct:
          "Europe, we are with you !!! We are crazy about you !!!"

          And further in the text.
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      5. Begemot
        Begemot 30 October 2014 09: 51
        +11
        SRC P-15 SU
        broken "European trough"!

        Maybe not broken, but filled with scraps - that's for sure.
        1. Vlad Peel
          Vlad Peel 1 November 2014 03: 47
          0
          Maybe not broken, but filled with scraps - that's for sure.


          This is an old caricature, but very relevant for the current situation in Ukraine, and even more so since after trampling Yanukovych, the same physiognomy remained in power!
          1. bda
            bda 2 November 2014 00: 02
            0
            Author:
            ... keep them for useful idiots who, one way or another, can come in handy as plumbers and dishwashers.

            Well, why put down to dishwashers! - the whole of Geyropa keeps them for the best and cheapest prostitutes - all the more so close to them (already the economy of Thailand has been brought down by its "ceeurope") smile
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      6. Andrea
        Andrea 30 October 2014 12: 03
        +14
        The dream of a freebie? Yes, it is inherent in everyone, and only in Ukraine, it turned into an idea (even at the state level, I am on gas, and total begging)
        In the Soviet years, many also treated people from the West with obsequiousness. It was disgusting to watch foreigners, even from the socialist camp, talk about the bourgeois and there is nothing to say (especially, it concerned the female, although it is relevant now), but in Russia, it seems that the majority was ill (not counting the Leberasts), and everywhere except Ukraine.
        This phenomenon cannot be explained, probably genetic.
        1. Victor Kamenev
          30 October 2014 12: 55
          +18
          This is not genetic, it is the fall of drive, according to L.N. Gumilev. Their antipodes subpassionarii always ready to sell for clothes and cheese. It is believed that Galicia is passionate, this is a lie, it is being used to cover the external formation of militarized formations.
          The defeats of the Nazi battalions in the Donbas prove this. But subpassionarii are very cruel, precisely because of the absence of passionarity: they fear and despise the great manifestations of the spirit. In general, the historical concept of Gumilev explains everything, or almost everything ...
          1. tkhonov66
            tkhonov66 30 October 2014 14: 45
            +2
            "...
            In general, the historical concept of Gumilev explains everything, or almost everything ...
            ..."
            .
            - "explaining" is not enough - you need to be able to PREDICT ...
            1. Forward
              Forward 31 October 2014 08: 07
              +3
              Quote: tkhonov66
              "...
              In general, the historical concept of Gumilev explains everything, or almost everything ...
              ..."
              .
              - "explaining" is not enough - you need to be able to PREDICT ...

              And what's the point ??? !!!! Predict do not predict no one will hear. Your humble servant wrote on this site in the year 13 about the events that are now taking place in Ukraine. And indeed, a lot of sensible people warned about this situation. As they say, thunder does not strike, a man does not cross himself. PS I myself am a fan of Leo Gumilyov and his theory of ethnogenesis.
          2. Olga78
            Olga78 30 October 2014 14: 45
            +5
            passionary is actually a man of action, burned with passion. If the passions are excessive, they are capable of sacrificing both their own and others' lives, and all the rest, if only this passion should be appeased, often contrary to common sense.
          3. andrew42
            andrew42 30 October 2014 16: 46
            +1
            About subpassionaries correctly noticed. But, unfortunately, Gumilyov left her in a purely statistical version. A source of passionarity appears from nowhere. On this he modestly stopped, out of political correctness. Although, if you add Klimov's degeneralogy, then oats will be contacted. Most likely, according to the order of appearance, 1) harmonics 2) subpassionaries as a result of degenerative processes 3) passionaries as an antidote enter the arena.
          4. bulatovvvas
            bulatovvvas 31 October 2014 05: 23
            +2
            Quote: Victor Kamenev
            In general, the historical concept of Gumilev explains everything, or almost everything ...

            I completely agree with this, but how to define their ETHNOS, allegedly mentioned by Herodotus? If they are from the ancient UKROV, then Lev Nikolayevich could hardly determine "at what stage of development this ethnic community is", and therefore what will happen to them in the future! request
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        2. Olga78
          Olga78 30 October 2014 14: 26
          +3
          I absolutely agree with you
      7. Shishiga
        Shishiga 30 October 2014 20: 52
        +2
        And in the end, they will remain at the broken "European trough"!


        Well, it’s just unlikely that one little thing is needed to stay at the broken "European trough" - to be allowed to see him. laughing But just with this and strained, no one is going to let them in to him am
      8. sgazeev
        sgazeev 31 October 2014 18: 30
        0
        Quote: SRC P-15
        Quote: rotmistr60
        And this faith has almost destroyed them.

        And in the end, they will remain at the broken "European trough"!

        Until the European will not be allowed, it will remain with its wretchedness. request
    2. Varyag_1973
      Varyag_1973 30 October 2014 08: 44
      +75
      Already wrote, but perhaps I repeat, it's worth it!

      "It's not that Ukraine has failed in the ass, it's scary that it is starting to settle down there!"


      The saying is not mine, if that!
      1. Russian German
        Russian German 30 October 2014 12: 37
        +19
        A little off topic, but nice:
        The Ukrainian portal "Censor Net" has published photographs of Ukrainian security officials at the Donetsk airport. The comments to the photos do not hide the belonging of some of them to the Right Sector. The following photographic fact seems to be curious: Ukrainian security forces get into the very same quilted jackets they hate. Further no comment.
        http://censor.net.ua/photo_news/309403/zamerzshiyi_ad_v_donetskom_aeroportu_foto
        reportaj
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 30 October 2014 19: 38
          +9
          http://censor.net.ua/
          Didn't expect this from censor.net. If the censor.net is so screwed up that he shows his “heroes” in quilted jackets, then it’s absolutely “Ukraine nicht Europe”.
        2. Tourist
          Tourist 31 October 2014 21: 49
          +1
          The following photo-fact seems to be curious: Ukrainian security officials crawl into the same quilted quilted jackets. Further no comment.
          Tse not a padded jacket, tse EMBROIDERY
        3. Vladimir 686
          Vladimir 686 1 November 2014 12: 31
          0
          The padded jacket is good, comfortable. Warm, if you are lucky, it will stop the bullet from the PM.
      2. Antor
        Antor 30 October 2014 17: 19
        +11
        It is true that they are beginning to settle down in this situation of outright national fascism! It’s a bitter disappointment that a freebie-plis has become a national trait in Ukraine by grace, including first the rulers of the USSR, then by the grace of the rulers of Russia! I don’t look at the history of the ancient Ukrainians who built the universe, and let everyone else live! This is some kind of anecdote, but of course the story can be falsified, as you want for yourself, go and check how it really was! But the reality of recent decades is simply shocking and outraging !?
        Are we really so simple, canceling the foundations of the modern economy and again stepping on the same rake !?
        The numbers of hundreds of billions of dollars of gratuitous subsidies to the Ukrainian economy from Russia are voiced, and what !? What have we achieved with this !? With our beggarly pensions and salaries, we finance a free-of-charge economy, and what do we get on the way out !? That Russophobic Ukraine, where the Russians are in a mess, for what, for free gas, etc. hundreds of billions of dollars. Russia is bred as in preference, and even scum on the whole world! It seems to me only now that the president and the authorities have realized the destructiveness of such a policy and do not want to be behind the red line that we have come to! The priority of his people, their well-being, everything that is reflected in the constitution of Russia should be in the first place, everything else is only within the framework of economic benefits for our country and its people!
        Why we should help everyone is incomprehensible, maybe we can better help our business, industry and agriculture, young families and our pensioners, that there are few things that no one will do except us and for us!
        Maybe then freebies-plis will decrease among some fraternal peoples, no matter what genetics they possess!
        1. Levira
          Levira 30 October 2014 19: 48
          +1
          Russia's argument is clear: “be with me, it’s profitable for you. But, as practice shows, it doesn’t work very well, at least Europe is suffering losses, but it supports sanctions, and there’s no need to talk about Ukraine and its ilk .
      3. VladVlad
        VladVlad 31 October 2014 12: 34
        +4
        - Why did the Ukrainians start talking not "in Ukraine" but "in Ukraine"?
        - They realized that they were not at zh_pe, but at zh_pe.
    3. MIV999
      MIV999 30 October 2014 08: 45
      +12
      To be honest, the topic of the moronic belief of dill in its special "Europeanism", raised by the author in the article, has been discussed and chewed a thousand times in the last six months alone. yes ... I personally did not see anything new in this particular article request ... Which means why it was written and published by moderators - I don’t understand ... The author of the article was late for about six months hi
      1. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 30 October 2014 09: 30
        +3
        but there is one among them who, until the very last days, told me over the telephone that “this is all your Putin, he is preventing us from becoming Europe.”


        Becoming Europe with a naked Ass - Nope, it won’t work!
      2. oblako
        oblako 30 October 2014 09: 57
        +31
        Somewhat jarring that we are already painfully judging them, as if the children there are small, unreasonable .... Thanks to Ukraine for the lesson taught to us and our authorities. Now we, our leaders, clearly understand what "democracy" is, (if earlier someone harbored some illusions about this) the technology of its establishment by representatives of the West, what is international law. What meanings can be put in these words. How can you use them as a banner and a bugbear ... although in the end, it’s just a field for playing according to Western rules, according to which the Russian world is playing worse and has fewer resources. We need to think about whether to continue this game, or whether it can establish its own rules ... not democratic. It seems that we simply have no other way out to maintain sovereignty. We took a fresh look at what a person is, if you can do something like that with him. Some kind of intoxication, a collective image. It is clear that there will be a hangover, it will be heavy, although certainly not for everyone, someone will settle in this "ass". And most likely this "someone" will belong to the media, which will inspire and support everyone else a new picture of a "bright European world." And they will believe in her too. The stabilizer will come. Society cannot be constantly in a state of revolution. But it will be another country. Probably people will become more tolerant and mostly reconciled. Someone will look down on former opponents, and each of the parties will have its own reason, but they will be somewhere deeply not in the foreground, "until better times", like once. But one question remains open: for what? What the West brings to the world is expressed in the rapidly aging idea of ​​the "American Dream" For what do we stand and do not give up? In historical terms, yes, this is an attempt! At VO there was an article by Khazin on this subject. If we do not offer the world a more attractive idea, they will crush us. "So yes," as the chosen people say. No matter what, while we are half measures. It is clear that not all at once ... But the dollar is on our territory, "democracy" too ... If he is not expelled, he will separate the Russian world and sell it in parts, no matter how actively we dream about the opposite. We still pay taxes to the Fed, an attempt to change the situation by signing the law on the State Bank of Russia failed by the deputies of United Russia. And that says a lot. At least that we lost part of our sovereignty as a state back in the 90s, so what do we reproach Ukraine for with its control from Washington? And managing our interest rate and rates, who controls us? It's just that Ukraine is being ruled more clearly now. Wait a bit, soon everything will take on civilized forms. And Ukraine will become a "free democratic country", well, like Germany, for example, ready at the first call, or even without it, to support its sovereign ... in all his democratic endeavors. I would like to say that we must go to the end, since we started this movement, and this movement is obvious, but we need to know for what, and for the sake of what Dream. This question can be said critical and basic. Again the little son came to his father and asked the little one: "What is good and what is bad?"
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 30 October 2014 10: 36
          +20
          Quote: oblako
          Now we, our leaders, clearly understand what "democracy" is,


          Vladislav Brig (Donetsk)

          We translate the meaning of political terms from the language of simulacra into real (practical) meaning.

          1) Democracy - the power of foreign agents of the United States, in third countries, in the interests of the ruling class of the United States.

          2) Human rights - the rights of US foreign agents to non-compliance with the laws of third countries in the interests of the ruling class of the United States.

          3) Humanitarian intervention - the colonial predatory campaign of the United States and its vassals, under the pretext of protecting "human rights" (US foreign agents violating the laws of third countries).

          4) Freedom - violation of rights and neglect of the interests of the population of third countries, in the interests of the ruling class of the United States.

          5) "Orange Revolution" - an illegal seizure of power by a minority over the majority, with the aim of establishing "freedom" (see above) and "democracy" (see above). For this, viral information technology and pharmacology are used.

          6) Legality - The right of the ruling class of the United States to violate any laws by a) deception, b) the threat of violence, c) violence.

          7) The fight against corruption - the struggle in the framework of the destruction of competitors of the ruling class of the United States in third countries, in order to seize power in third countries and legalize corruption.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 30 October 2014 19: 43
            +11
            Niccolo Machiavelli 500 years ago said: "Everything to his own, to the rest is the law." How fresh and new ... Yes, there are a lot of things ...
            1. Vladimir 686
              Vladimir 686 1 November 2014 12: 33
              0
              Niccolo Machiaveli "Sovereign". I would include him in the school curriculum. Smart book.
        2. andrew42
          andrew42 30 October 2014 16: 55
          +11
          A plus. The insides of our present-day Russia are weak. Until recently, it could be considered a mildly occupied country. Oligarchy is initially a corrupt form of government, which ultimately leads to the loss of independence. It's not even aristocracy, much worse. Now it is being decided whether it will be only Putin's "zigzag of history" or whether there will be a real change in the state political and economic structure of Russia. On old oligrachic yeast, as on feet of clay, one can puff up, but it is easy to deflate and sell. Pro-German boyars of Novgorod from the film "Alexander Nevsky" are classics of the genre.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 30 October 2014 19: 44
            +5
            Quote: andrew42
            Pro-German boyars of Novgorod from the film "Alexander Nevsky" are classics of the genre.
            So that's why a brilliant work, so that in decades (centuries) it will be "just like about now."
            1. Lelek
              Lelek 31 October 2014 13: 00
              +1
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              so that in decades (centuries) it would be "just like now."


              Everything in the universe develops cyclically and in a spiral. yes
            2. your1970
              your1970 31 October 2014 23: 35
              +1
              Yes much more accurate- "Wedding in Malinovka", if you throw out the dances, you can show it in the "News" as a documentary
              "Pan ataman has no gold reserves" .......
          2. VladVlad
            VladVlad 31 October 2014 12: 26
            0
            And what, a true remark. Only now it will be difficult to get rid of them ... And that means that it is too early to return to Ukraine or, moreover, put Europe (America) in its place.
            Without a strong rear, wars are not waged.
          3. Vladimir 686
            Vladimir 686 1 November 2014 12: 40
            0
            It’s always fun to hear that the oligarchy is to blame. Alexander Danilovich Menshikov is an oligarch, he was incredible, he was a thief, but he did state affairs, he was a fierce warrior. Real Russian!
        3. demo
          demo 31 October 2014 09: 06
          +1
          The answer is Nikita Sergeevich.
        4. Lelek
          Lelek 31 October 2014 12: 56
          +1
          You couldn’t write so much, click on a short post - do not say halva ... bully
      3. Victor Kamenev
        30 October 2014 13: 07
        +3
        I understand your irritation, unfortunately, there are not only international communist revolutions, but also nationalist fascist revolutions, and others are possible. Revolutions have common features, for they use the element of the masses and the "revolutionary moment". The goals of the communist revolution were noble, but the destruction of the ties of society according to Prigozhin-Bertalanffy still had to be paid. Lenin quickly realized this, and practically abandoned communism when he went over to the NEP, and this saved the country. Bertalanfi-Prigogine had not yet made their discoveries, otherwise Lenin would have been completely different ..
        1. vtnsk
          vtnsk 30 October 2014 20: 09
          +1
          Lenin at the end of his life realized what he had done and tried to change the situation. But it was already too late, since by that time power had passed to Stalin and his people. And if Lenin had not died of his illnesses, then he had a real chance to share the fate of his comrades-in-arms in the "purges" of the 30s. "The revolution always devours its children" (C) ... smile
        2. bulatovvvas
          bulatovvvas 31 October 2014 07: 12
          +2
          Quote: Victor Kamenev
          The goals of the communist revolution were noble, but they still had to pay for the destruction of society’s ties according to Prigogine-Bertalanffy. Lenin quickly understood this, and actually abandoned communism when he switched to the NEP, and this saved the country. Bertalanfi-Prigozhin had not yet made their discoveries, otherwise Lenin would have been completely different ..

          What makes you think that he refused (from the idea of ​​building communism)? It was a tactical move in the most difficult conditions in a short time to build the foundations of a state of a NEW type. And we have been building since the 90s, it is not clear that - the Aligarchic-capitalist-social state or just a US colony, as a raw materials appendage of the West. There is neither a goal nor an ideology for the development of this.
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      4. oracul
        oracul 30 October 2014 14: 31
        0
        In vain so. There are probably newcomers among visitors to the site. Show your snobbery is not worth it.
    4. Rumata
      Rumata 30 October 2014 09: 25
      +28
      Well, soon Urkaine will have to do as the Kievites the lawyer Bereza finished on the big board))):
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 30 October 2014 19: 50
        +9
        Quote: Rumata
        Well, soon Urkaine will have to do as the Kievites the lawyer Bereza finished on the big board))):

        They are no strangers. One "vrotbrav" was even elected to the Rada. And they do not disdain to greet him by the hand.
        1. Alex20042004
          Alex20042004 31 October 2014 22: 07
          0
          Once not pida_as, i.e. not considered.
          1. GRAMARI111
            GRAMARI111 31 October 2014 22: 28
            0
            you probably wanted to write ten thousand once - not pi ... araz?
    5. SAXA.SHURA
      SAXA.SHURA 30 October 2014 15: 54
      +6
      As this Ukraine has already sickened everyone, they are bastards and do not live on their own, as people don’t give it to others. We should at least go to any shore, or spit on them properly, so that our brains fly out. It’s impossible to look at this face there would be some real kid and smash his face with the glasses of a rabbit.
      1. Jury
        Jury 31 October 2014 06: 58
        +1
        As I understand you! The most terrible desire is to beat Yaytsenitsu’s face for a very long time and diligently. Very disgusting type, it’s impossible to watch. And really, this Ukraine is so embarrassed. How much can you endure their antics?
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    7. mihasik
      mihasik 30 October 2014 19: 51
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      They were seized by the belief in a great Ukrainian freebie, that they, “tse Europe”, would become Europe tomorrow.
      And this faith has almost destroyed them.

      What do you want. It had to happen. Who was in Kiev know that right next to the residence of the President of Ukraine is a House with chimeras .... and the faces of these chimeras are not friendly. I would say scary. So everything is at the subconscious level. And here are the consequences of such a neighborhood)
      1. vvu-globus
        vvu-globus 1 November 2014 19: 26
        0
        In 1994, drove by car through Kiev. I was surprised by the inscription on one support of the bridge: Get from Ukraine! It was only a little more than two years after the collapse of the USSR. And now a whole generation has grown up, who believes that they have brought their country to full f .... s.
    8. northern
      northern 31 October 2014 00: 55
      +2
      The cat threw kittens-Putin is to blame! (Uroversion)
      1. VladVlad
        VladVlad 31 October 2014 12: 13
        +2
        I can't even believe it! Is everything so primitive with them? However, why surprise: the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Avakov has just decided to imprison the actor Porechenkov for 7 years for allegedly shooting at the Ukrainians while at the militia's with the presentation of his film "Poddubny".
        Well, is not it nonsense?
        1. northern
          northern 31 October 2014 21: 39
          0
          Are you still surprised after "Russian nuclear weapons"?
    9. Denis fj
      Denis fj 31 October 2014 01: 20
      +1
      Freebies never happened. Since the days of the USSR - but some people seem to be so stuck at that time, assuming that they will make a big shred of farewell - they will tear off the jackpot of the next peacekeeping concessions from the Russian Federation, after which they will safely leave for the west with tightly packed pockets. And there is every reason to believe that it will be so - only not with everyone.
    10. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 31 October 2014 08: 19
      0
      -Benya are they really idiots? "Yes, almost! They only have to eat their boots, and they have already eaten the accordion (49 days in the Ocean)!
    11. Lelek
      Lelek 31 October 2014 12: 49
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      And this faith has almost destroyed them.


      Well, yes, the more I gave birth to you, the more I will kill you. bully
    12. Siberian German
      Siberian German 31 October 2014 19: 43
      0
      or here, too, the people as a whole are trusting, like a child, “they are one of the children” - I remember in childhood when something was wrong my father was tearing me like a goat — so this child nation also needs a good spanking - my opinion
    13. GSH-18
      GSH-18 31 October 2014 20: 51
      0
      “They are children” - it is not by chance that this new word was born; it accurately reflects the deep meaning of the events in the former Ukraine.

      They are not children but freeloaders are two completely different things! And on this property of character, the pindocs caught them. And eat ... and all their utterly waste, quarreled with neighbors, bankrupt, destroyed industry, split the country and society, brought the Nazis to the government. And blamed Russia and Putin for everything!
      After a year or so, ukrokhokhly will begin to suspect that they are awesome .. and, but it will be too late. There is no country, there is no money and is not expected, in the EU and NATO they have not taken and will never take, Russia will not help (since the Svidomo themselves poured mud on it), there is no industry, but there are enormous debts and confidence xokol-tse euroopeets! lol
  2. Spike
    Spike 30 October 2014 08: 38
    +15
    Nothing in the world is so cheap and nothing is valued so dearly as a FREEBY! Ukrainians, you have to pay in full for everything.
    1. Renat
      Renat 30 October 2014 09: 53
      +6
      Ukrainians will pay, they won’t go anywhere. Only all this riffraff, which is now in power, will also earn on this.
      1. DShB
        DShB 30 October 2014 19: 49
        +6
        The Ukrainian people will pay! A brown riffraff-earn for themselves at the funeral ((((
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    2. the villain
      the villain 30 October 2014 17: 16
      +5
      Quote: Crutch
      for everything you have to pay in full.

      Something like that. hi
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 31 October 2014 13: 05
        +5
        Quote: Villain
        Something like that.


        Or so:
    3. Alex
      Alex 30 October 2014 18: 06
      +3
      Quote: Crutch
      Nothing in the world is so cheap and nothing is valued so dearly as a FREEBY!

      Rather, the opposite: there is nothing more expensive than a freebie. True, then (everyone knows about free cheese, but for some people it turns off the thought. At the sight of this cheese itself.).
  3. Singularist
    Singularist 30 October 2014 08: 43
    +6
    Winter will dot all i
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 30 October 2014 08: 54
      +10
      Quote: Specialist
      Winter will dot all i


      If there is hope for frost, then it is unlikely that Ukraine will not be left without gas, and if, in addition to gas, they add some money to the Ukrainians, they will not only survive the winter.
      1. indeveral
        indeveral 30 October 2014 09: 54
        +13
        So I fear that in the end, Russia will again supply gas to Ukraine on credit (as they call it, I don’t know, under guarantees, sureties, but without money), the EU will throw loans, and after all this, all this pack who came to power with pride will report to the people about their successes. And the people will be proud of them!
        1. KUOLEMA
          KUOLEMA 1 November 2014 10: 53
          0
          Of course, they will supply tea on credit, not the first time, we’ve already agreed, they wrote before the end of October, the first tranche will arrive October is over now they are gurgling about the first decade of November and they’ll let gas tomorrow
  4. Egoza
    Egoza 30 October 2014 08: 43
    +43
    Yesterday in Kiev, a movie theater was burned, where a film about gays and lesbians was shown. The festival there is "youth", mainly with these films. And after all "warned" on the posters and the walls of the building, they say, just try to hold this festival, and ... It's a pity, the oldest and most beautiful cinema was. But the fact that not everyone in Kiev supports "European values" - pleases.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 30 October 2014 09: 03
      +12
      Quote: Egoza
      It is a pity, the oldest and most beautiful cinema was. But the fact that not everyone in Kiev supports "European values" is good news.

      The cinema is a pity, the film festival should have been held in the parliament, in the very nest of "European values"!

    2. Combitor
      Combitor 30 October 2014 09: 45
      +12
      Quote: Egoza
      Sorry, the oldest and most beautiful cinema was.
      1. Renat
        Renat 30 October 2014 09: 58
        +3
        Monuments are over, now they have taken up cultural houses and cinemas. But how would they come together without minority support, without tolerance in Europe? There the road is only through the fifth point. No other way.
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    4. Lelek
      Lelek 31 October 2014 17: 01
      +3
      Quote: Egoza
      burned a movie theater where a film about gays and lesbians was shown


      I imagine in what mountain Lyashko and Avakov, poor fellow. bully
  5. Vadim12
    Vadim12 30 October 2014 08: 45
    +14
    If the Ukrainians do not come to their senses, "Evil Putin" will suit them the Stone Age. The Europeans have already figured out who and what they are dealing with. There will be no money from the west. And they destroy their own. You don't even need to do anything, the "great Ukriya" itself goes into a black hole.
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 30 October 2014 09: 07
      +8
      Quote: Vadim12
      If the Ukrainians do not come to their senses, "Evil Putin" will suit them the Stone Age.

      About 200 people blocked traffic in Kiev, protesting against lack of heating
      KIEV, 30 October. / TASS /. About 200 people blocked traffic on one of the streets of Kiev, trying to draw the attention of the authorities to the lack of heating and hot water in their houses. This was reported on Thursday by UNIAN agency.

      Residents of the southwestern Solomensky district of the city claim that, despite the beginning of the heating season, there is still no heating in their homes, at the moment there is also no hot water, and since October 19 there have been interruptions in the supply of electricity.

      According to one of the residents of the house located in this area, people have repeatedly contacted the authorities in connection with this problem, but the issue has not yet been resolved.

      Last week, President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko ordered to start the heating season in "all without exception" houses in the country until October 26
    2. Combitor
      Combitor 30 October 2014 09: 46
      +11
      Quote: Vadim12
      Europeans have already figured out who and what they are dealing with.
  6. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 30 October 2014 08: 46
    +33
    The loss of ethnic relations of brotherly relations ONLY US is perceived as a tragedy ...
    BUT in Ukraine, other thoughts ... for them there is no tragedy ... they are happy with everything ... the new Nazi authorities ... the fight against Russianness in all its manifestations (up to a simple loyal attitude towards Russia) ... physical pressure on people ... a total struggle with a common history. These are already different people ... we need to get used to the idea ... that they are our former acquaintances ... but no longer friends ... I think their hatred will be greater than that of the Poles at times ... and the generation that has grown up on the fight is already growing up with the Russians ...
    1. Rado
      Rado 30 October 2014 09: 20
      +3
      Yes unfortunately...
    2. vostok1982
      vostok1982 30 October 2014 10: 37
      +16
      Do not go to extremes, like those unhappy about whom the author wrote. At least in the south, most are for Russia. It’s a pity, polite people didn’t get here in early spring.
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 30 October 2014 13: 25
        +1
        Quote: vostok1982
        At least in the south, most are for Russia.


        Did you consider it yourself? Judging by my acquaintances - well, it’s not at all so ..

        Quote: vostok1982
        It’s a pity, polite people didn’t get here in early spring.


        And already at the beginning of spring - as if there was nothing for "polite people" to do ..

        Something like that.

        "Love for freebies as a national trait" - takes place. Article plus.
        1. vostok1982
          vostok1982 30 October 2014 13: 34
          +5
          Judging by my observation of ardent Bandera - only 5 people per hundred, no more. The rest are either neutral towards Russia, nostalgic for the USSR, or positive. And why was it "polite" to do something in Crimea, but nothing to do in Odessa or Nikolaev? With the exception of Sevastopol, the rest of Crimea was no different from other Russian cities in the south of the former Ukraine.
          1. Cat man null
            Cat man null 30 October 2014 14: 00
            +9
            IMHO you confuse the pedals though. I will try to explain:

            - Nobody canceled 23 years of propaganda. "Ukraine is not Russia", yes.
            - Do not believe it - propaganda works. A hundred times already wrote here that it became stupidly impossible to communicate with friends / acquaintances from Ukraine. I confirm sad
            - even those who, as you say, are "neutral" towards Russia - will become hostile after the introduction of troops (you are in favor of this, right?)
            - the result will be a guerrilla war "all against all". Who needs it?

            The bottom line: as long as the man in the street (just an ordinary man in the street!) In Ukraine is not tough pro-Russian - no "polite people" are needed there. To avoid stop
          2. aleks 62
            aleks 62 30 October 2014 14: 11
            +2
            ....... And what is the difference between Sevastopol and other cities of the South of Ukraine and especially Crimea ????? Especially what is different from, say, the city of Vladivostok ???? ..... Vladivostok is a large city, almost 750 thousand. population, the city - the naval base of Russia's largest fleet of Pacific Fleet .... recourse
          3. GSH-18
            GSH-18 31 October 2014 21: 09
            0
            Quote: vostok1982
            And why was it "polite" to do something in Crimea, but nothing to do in Odessa or Nikolaev? With the exception of Sevastopol, the rest of Crimea was no different from other Russian cities in the south of the former Ukraine.

            Crimea differs in that it was the last to be attached to the Ukrainian SSR, and in how it was treated as part of Ukraine. Therefore, the almost 100% result of the referendum on the return to Russia.
            As you yourself said, according to your observations in the east, a hundred or five Benderaites have a 50/50 neutral / good attitude towards the Russian Federation. How can one take territories into such a structure with such public opinion ??? We, the Russians, do not need an extra crap. And our president understands this well. request
      2. officer29
        officer29 30 October 2014 13: 29
        +8
        Quote: vostok1982
        It’s a pity, polite people didn’t get here in early spring.

        Here is your ANSWER! So everyone in Ukraine says "It's a pity that ..." crying "Tseevropeytsy" - "it is a pity that Yanukovych did not sign an association with the EU! South and East of Ukraine -" it is a pity that "polite people" did not reach us ... Everyone hoped for free! Some, that with the signing of the association, will live like in Europe, with their salaries and social security. Others, that if "polite people" entered their land, they would live like in Russia or not worse! Both groups "waiting to be tormented" request , in a place of rolling up your sleeves to work for your own good. They would hope less for a "good uncle" fool And as a result - "scho may, then may" !!! (what we have, we have) am
        1. vostok1982
          vostok1982 30 October 2014 13: 37
          +11
          This is how we work. And what does that change? Your work changed a lot in the 90s in Russia? If it weren’t for Putin, you had the same railway station as ours, and maybe worse.
          This is not a love of a freebie, it is the thirst of a strong king who is able to restore order and restrain the overgrown oligarchs.
          1. Levira
            Levira 30 October 2014 20: 04
            +2
            Do you want to tame the oligarchs, and choose the president of the oligarch ?????
          2. Wheel
            Wheel 31 October 2014 00: 21
            0
            Quote: vostok1982
            If it weren’t for Putin, you had the same railway station as ours, and maybe worse.

            You are a little wrong.
            Putin is out of business.
            If Ivanov, Petrov, Medvedev (exactly the one who had an iPhone) or even Sidorenko instead of him, the result would be the same.
            It's all about oil and gas and the people who control it. They are the ones who put the politicians in Russia and pull the strings to comply with their interests.
            Quote: vostok1982
            This is how we work. And what does that change? Your work changed a lot in the 90s in Russia?

            I agree with this.
            Quote: vostok1982
            This is not a love of a freebie, it is the thirst of a strong king who is able to restore order and restrain the overgrown oligarchs.
            It is truth too.
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          5. your1970
            your1970 31 October 2014 23: 44
            +1
            to put it mildly, to exchange some oligarchs for others that have become even more overgrown
      3. vvu-globus
        vvu-globus 1 November 2014 19: 32
        0
        But it’s disgusting to watch when strong guys clinging to their wife’s skirt run to Russia. And a simple Russian girl from St. Petersburg, having sold her business, acquired camouflage and SVD, protects Donbass.
  7. GrandsonUncle Vasi
    GrandsonUncle Vasi 30 October 2014 08: 46
    +16
    They have geyrops on the outskirts, even the abbreviation turns to irony ВterribleРhellУkrainy! In short I lie! tongue
    I never imagined that there would be such a negative attitude towards everything that lives and lives in this incomprehensible hohland. angry
    On what basis, sexual or sexual, do they determine their Khokhlyat origin? Until now, I don’t understand- "Hto doesn’t jump, that m.s.k.a.l.l.! And hto jumps, that hto by origin and from whom is it, is this a miracle? sad
    1. Renat
      Renat 30 October 2014 09: 59
      +3
      There is no longer Hohland, but HALYAVSTAN.
    2. tolian
      tolian 30 October 2014 14: 41
      +1
      Some animals will jump, shaking horns.
  8. shishakova
    shishakova 30 October 2014 08: 48
    +10
    Thanks, Victor.
    Good article. Of course, not everyone in Ukraine is "onizhedeti", but an intelligent person cannot be told the truth there.
  9. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 October 2014 08: 49
    +11
    Let's see how Europe will pay for gas for dill. And what they have to pay for it. Only until March! So? Factories will rise, unemployment will spill out into the streets. Maidan right has already taken root in the brain. Only nobody will pay for the Maidans anymore. And the residents gathering in the squares will have to really feed themselves at their own expense (and where to get it?), And really resist the harsh crackdown either by the authorities or by the units of the "Pravosek" they incited. So the Maidans will end before they start. Unorganized resistance cannot withstand the organization. And no ideas will disprove this.
  10. parusnik
    parusnik 30 October 2014 08: 49
    +8
    The Bandera revolution destroys precisely the ties, relations that were in the "old Ukraine"
    We are ours, we will build a new world .. Only there are no builders .. are insane in a drunken ideological frenzy .. and the hangover will be severe, without sober ... and there will be no brine ..
    1. Victor Kamenev
      30 October 2014 13: 18
      +6
      Right. The Bolshevik revolution was nevertheless aimed at building a "base", etc. The fascist only dreams of "Europe" and incites hatred of Russia. There are no builders and they are not expected: they go to Europe for plumbers.
  11. bionik
    bionik 30 October 2014 08: 50
    +28
    They think it will be like this
  12. Neighbor
    Neighbor 30 October 2014 08: 54
    +8
    Nothing, maybe the Poles will still get it, they didn’t give coal for free and it’s harder to steal coal than gas.
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  13. 2sila
    2sila 30 October 2014 08: 57
    +19
    Yes, nothing can convince them.
    Even when they completely suck this g .... well, they will not believe that they were thrown.
    One example is Bulgaria.
    They live in poverty and are silent.
    1. Buchki
      Buchki 30 October 2014 13: 08
      +4
      No, they are not silent - they "wet" South Stream ...
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    1. Victor Kamenev
      30 October 2014 13: 29
      +4
      You can compare everything, another thing, what conclusions to draw from this. The February coup of 1917 pushed Russia into an internationalist revolution, the February coup of 2014 in Kiev pushed Ukraine into a nationalist and fascist revolution, these are antipods, which is why the monuments to Lenin are so eagerly destroyed. And what are the driving forces ukrorevolyutsii, we already see. Rabbits, boxers and chocolate hares ...
    2. the villain
      the villain 30 October 2014 17: 31
      +1
      Quote: Mareman Vasilich
      the leaders were people wise and pragmatic

      And one wise and pragmatic person is now very lacking. hi
  15. 205577
    205577 30 October 2014 08: 59
    +47
    Already fed up with discussions about the deceived people, the desire for immediate happiness, the great tragedy because of the Nazi Maidan.
    Understand one thing - you need to call everything by their proper names.
    "In truth is power, brother ..."
    The "people" who wished to be deceived - they have already received it, and how much they will receive, but there are the LPR and the DPR, the same people, the same people, and for some reason they do not lament that "a tyrant - Putin "spreads rot and interferes with their immediate universal happiness, for some reason they do not devote odes to the Nazis, for some reason they do not harbor any special illusions about their" special status "...
    The truth is actually CONVENIENT as usual, but it does not become less true from this:
    - we have a thoroughly corrupt "state" with the most powerful propaganda of the entire Anti-Russian and a real springboard for all kinds of attacks on Russia (from information to military);
    - we have residents of this "state" who have always looked for benefit and only benefit, or rather even a freebie, in all relations with Russia, and always tried to sit in one place on two chairs "gracefully offering themselves" to Geyrope, then to Russia - to the one who will give more, and you can serve both;
    - it is true that this "state" has always been in a privileged position in Russia and has always arranged stupid blackmail from this;
    - it is true that the overwhelming number of citizens of this "state" really hate us, and really consider us to be the culprits of all their troubles - and what do you want, they are so brought up to bite the hand of the giver ...
    There is still a lot of such uncomfortable truth, but at least let us speak to it among ourselves.
    Too much liked the "brotherly people" to live in the show and get money for it, but now the TRUTH comes to them, and I do not envy them, although they deserve ALL THIS.
    1. vezdehodov
      vezdehodov 30 October 2014 09: 22
      +11
      Bravo buddy! I subscribe to every word.

      Let's summarize:
      Russophobes are freeloaders living on the anti-Russian bridgehead (which in no way prevented Russia from feeding the "brothers"), striving to bite our hand at every opportunity.

      Like a mongrel living in the yard, he wants to lick his hand, he wants to grab his hand, but he certainly rubs every morning near an empty bowl, waiting for soup.
    2. Rado
      Rado 30 October 2014 09: 25
      +3
      Yes, really ... Forced to admit ..
    3. Levira
      Levira 30 October 2014 20: 20
      +5
      I agree in many ways, if it weren’t for one thing ... I recall the end of the 80s-beginning of the 90s, when the USSR was collapsed with our hands (including mine), EBN was brought to power, and all this despite the fact that they seemed to be adequate people and insight came later. But did we want to be deceived? We thought it would be better than it is.
      I am convinced that hunger, cold, total impoverishment will eventually set their brains on them, and do not stop them from becoming wiser.
  16. vezdehodov
    vezdehodov 30 October 2014 08: 59
    +12
    Ukr’s great dream is about the European future, its strength is that you can go to Europe and see everything with your own eyes, and not take it on faith, as many people once believed in the fictitious European Marx in his office.

    In the Soviet Union, people also dreamed that everything was in stores and you could go wherever you want ...
    And now, many of us understand that happiness is not at all in this.
    And in the shops we had almost everything and we had the opportunity to ride.
  17. apolenkov
    apolenkov 30 October 2014 09: 00
    +7
    All this is sad! I have relatives in Kiev, it became impossible to talk with them, they stopped talking !!!!!!! Selyavi !! Maybe in the future relations will be restored !!!! (((((
    1. vezdehodov
      vezdehodov 30 October 2014 09: 25
      +2
      The poison kills, in this case it kills the mind.
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    3. Rado
      Rado 30 October 2014 09: 29
      +5
      Yes, we also have (had?) Friends in Kiev, we have been friends for almost 20 years. And now even talking on the phone is impossible! DO NOT perceive ANYTHING! Deny us completely! It is hard for all of us to the impossibility ...
  18. askort154
    askort154 30 October 2014 09: 00
    +4
    Ukraine is doomed itself and will bring a lot of nastiness to Russia.
  19. Name
    Name 30 October 2014 09: 02
    +5
    The freebie for the "great ukrov" is over, even Merkel's patience has run out:“If Europe itself must suffer, because there is no agreement between Russia and Ukraine, then Ukraine will be left without a reverse flow, because then, of course, Europe needs all the gas itself”
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  21. hohryakov066
    hohryakov066 30 October 2014 09: 07
    +3
    Even after the October Revolution organized by the "wise and pragmatic" people, the country was sausage for at least 30 years! What can we say about modern ukroshabash. In 10 years they will remember with longing the Yanukovych's arch.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 30 October 2014 09: 19
      +18
      Quote: hohryakov066
      After 10 years, they will longingly remember the bow of Yanukovych.

      Why in 10 years? Already they wrote on the bulletins "Vitya! Come back! I will forgive everything!" laughing
      But seriously, now everything will start - Yatsenyuk's party bypassed the Poroshenko Bloc, and now Yatsenyuk is going to form a coalition, BUT WITHOUT POROSHENKO'S BLOCK !!! He invites "Samopomich" (militants and memory), Yulia (as he is her "chick), and Lyashka, although Yulia is unlikely to get along with him.
      Does this mean that the United States has already turned its back on Poroshenko and turned all his attention to Yatsenyuk?
      At the same time, "Svoboda" is already picketing the CEC, they talk about falsifications, and it is quite possible that "Right Sector" will join them. And then what happens? Yarosh passed, received immunity, and his lads were left behind? Give us a new Maidan !!!
      And then the people of Kiev "woke up" - they do not want to sit without warm batteries and light in the name of the revolution!
      EVERYTHING ONLY BEGINS !!!
      1. vezdehodov
        vezdehodov 30 October 2014 09: 31
        +4
        And then the people of Kiev "woke up" - they do not want to sit without warm batteries and light in the name of the revolution!
        EVERYTHING ONLY BEGINS !!!


        Rather, they will support the new Maidan in order to devour and warm themselves free. Winter then promises to be cold.
    2. dr.star75
      dr.star75 30 October 2014 09: 29
      +10
      The October Revolution is really great! Before it was repeated without hesitation, now everything has fallen out of place, just look at Ukraine. Do not forget, first there was the February one, when "the dictator-tsar" was overthrown and the "democrats" came to power, who destroyed the army, power at all levels, and caused famine. But in October they were thrown off by these methods. And then you know, intervention, blockade, civil war. But we didn't start it.
    3. vtnsk
      vtnsk 30 October 2014 20: 16
      +2
      Quote: hohryakov066
      After 10 years, they will longingly remember the bow of Yanukovych.

      It seems to me that this can happen in the spring of 2015 ... laughing
  22. Prager
    Prager 30 October 2014 09: 11
    +5
    modern ukroshabash will last for many more years, they are too zealously untwisted during their wild dill. themselves will not stop.
  23. Tygyps
    Tygyps 30 October 2014 09: 14
    +15
    I will quote the words "FRUIT" from the site http://www.novorosinform.org, with which I completely agree !!!!

    .........This tyagomotin in Novorossia and Ukraine is very reminiscent of the process of chopping off a dog’s tail in small pieces. And all, for some reason, are trying to prove that such a method of chopping off the tail is more humane and gentle.
    The tail must be chopped all at once (the dog will not be so tormented). And in the case of Ukraine, it must be chopped to the very neck.
    It was not necessary to go on any cease-fires at all, but it was necessary to go to Kiev and everything would have been decided a long time ago. And now they would be engaged in establishing life. And now back to the same thing that they were trying to get away from.
    Stop snot chewing. No one will agree there. It is impossible to negotiate with the fascists. They just need to be destroyed. And there is no other way. Otherwise, they will destroy everyone else.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 30 October 2014 13: 53
      +2
      Ready to subscribe to every word.
  24. Egoza
    Egoza 30 October 2014 09: 23
    +13
    And a little more about the new deputies ...
    If the logic of the "front-line soldiers" in the formation of the list can still be understood, then what guided Oleg Lyashko, giving the 13th checkpoint to Kharkiv Alyona Kosheleva, is a big question. On the website of the Radical Party it is indicated that the spectacular 24-year-old young lady is a volunteer at the Kharkov hospital. Photos confirming this fact can be found on the pages of Alena in social networks, all of them are dated September. However, few people know Koshelev in a volunteer environment. “They say that she helps the hospital very cool. But something no one can remember her. Maybe it just comes at night, incognito, under a veil, ”Roman Donik, a famous Kharkov volunteer, wrote to the FB.

    "News" found on the Internet a resume of beauty. Proceeding from it, the future people's deputy has two higher educations and the whole seven months of working experience as the restaurant administrator. But in the legislative activity Alena will be helped by “sociability, responsibility, stress resistance, diligence, punctuality”, which the girl attributed to her merits.
    XXXX
    Well, somewhere out of the corner of his ear Lyashko heard that "the cook will rule the state" and decided that the restaurant administrator would be able to handle it all the more!
    1. vezdehodov
      vezdehodov 30 October 2014 10: 24
      +8
      Maybe they lied about the hospital, and the lady came directly to Lyashkin in uniform? What public talents can a 24-year-old pretty girl have? Lyashko also started laughing

      1. vezdehodov
        vezdehodov 30 October 2014 10: 29
        +4
        Although no Lyashko started like this:
        1. Vyatich
          Vyatich 30 October 2014 22: 56
          0
          Here is how he started!
          http://youtu.be/tYkx0KEby5Y
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      3. The point
        The point 30 October 2014 13: 13
        +3
        Quote: vezdehodov
        Maybe they lied about the hospital, and the lady came directly to Lyashkin in uniform?

        To whom? I beg you, do not tell my slippers! laughing
  25. Egoza
    Egoza 30 October 2014 09: 25
    +4
    Among the most famous self-nominees who by a wide margin win the election are the centurion of the Maidan Vladimir Parasyuk, (Well, he rode naked on the Maidan, now he will move to a new apartment in Kiev) ex-Minister of Health Oleg Musiy. Both walked around the districts in Lviv.
    Also, from the Lviv region, the Dubnevichi brothers, one of the most prosperous businessmen of Galicia, who were put forward by the Poroshenko Bloc, go to parliament.
    But in the four districts of Transcarpathia there was a whole family in a row Balog - Victor, Ivan, Pavel and their cousin Vasily Petevka. Social network users have nicknamed Transcarpathia as a joke “Balogostan”.
    In Bukovina, people's friend Yatsenyuk, the Minister of Infrastructure Maxim Burbak (People’s Front), was elected to people's deputies.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 31 October 2014 17: 13
      +3
      Hello, Elena. From the names you listed, the stomach behaved strangely. I can imagine how glad Europe will be to such a replenishment.
  26. ava09
    ava09 30 October 2014 09: 25
    +5
    Ukrainians are Russians from the outskirts, unfortunately it so happened that throughout their existence they were looking for protection and a freebie.
  27. mik0588
    mik0588 30 October 2014 09: 30
    +8
    "... to be" for this "in rich Europe, you just need to renounce everything Russian, in yourself and in your history, and break with Russia in order to become a European ..."
    Very accurately noticed!
  28. Pula
    Pula 30 October 2014 09: 36
    +2
    The time of the Sabbath is determined, while young dill is more important "it is easy to make a penny and drive." drinks The rest have already been beaten.
  29. Ober.K
    Ober.K 30 October 2014 09: 40
    +2
    As an option freebies !!!
  30. Yuriy_K
    Yuriy_K 30 October 2014 09: 43
    -25
    Projection (of your cockroaches to other people). Freebie - the national idea of ​​Russia, which stands for freebie - http://ideo.ru/economics.html Ukrainians were able to resist the freebie, unlike, say, Chechens who heroically fought on the battlefield, but bought a Moscow freebie and sold their independence.
    The European economy is not based on freebies, but on useful profits (freebies are dysfunctional income). Benefit and earn. In Russia, on the contrary, you can only make money on uselessness, simply bending over to the authorities or stealing. Instead of working in Russia, service is held in high esteem, and instead of benefit - "efficiency" ...
    1. kolobok63
      kolobok63 30 October 2014 12: 35
      +7
      Yurchik to the doctor urgently! The tumor is developing rapidly, the mind already seems to be affected! Don’t drag it! Quickly to the doctor! And the best vaccine is in Kiev, fly, jump, shout ... You’re screaming, but don’t miss that one! hands and a rope from a drum to the neck ... Bon voyage to dill, there, due to illness, they will give you tea without tea, they will warm you around the fire from the tires, they may even treat you cookies (if you stayed). Go to the victory of dill, but don’t forget to cry Ukrainians in embroidery as you are tired of VVP, maybe you can earn on margarine, then the Ukrainians themselves gobbled up! fool stop
      1. schumrik
        schumrik 30 October 2014 19: 20
        +1
        I agree 100%, especially since 10 thousand Chechens fought (this is max.), From a million people, and get Chechnya independent, then what? You need to remember: next to Azerbaijan, Turkey, Iran, Pakistan, and of course the ubiquitous S. Arabia. kind, brotherly Muslim countries !!! they would quickly help a poor small, but (let's imagine) independent republic! so they would help, each on his part, and with his own "program" of help. well, you get the idea. the Chechen leadership made the only right choice , in Russia they are free, and exist, and have the right to choose! Yuri_K is not far off, but probably as a JUMP, A
    2. dmit-xnumx
      dmit-xnumx 30 October 2014 12: 43
      +1
      -Yuriy_ K., in my opinion, you are mistaken about the Chechens: they just realized that after the attack on Dagestan, the war returned to them again, but already for the complete destruction of the entire Chechen people, if they don’t change their minds, and a way out of the impasse without "loss of face". Peace returned to their land, independence remained with them, as far as possible, being within the Russian Federation. As for "be useful and earn", without bowing to the authorities - let me not believe you (our planet Earth, not Eden), if it were, then the European economy would not have economic crises, right?
    3. andrew42
      andrew42 30 October 2014 17: 06
      +3
      Well, you bent about the Ukrainians, my friend. There is a bit of bitter truth about our Race. "Management" has already got it in all areas. Spit wherever, you'll end up in a manager of uncertain qualifications. Not a specialist, not an engineer, not a skilled worker, but a manager. But about the Ukrainians, "opposing freebies" - this is something from the area of ​​painting black into white. Present-day Ukraine is a grotesque vices of our Russian society, built into a cube, a "kingdom of crooked mirrors" in its purest form. In a way, thanks to this circus for showing us clearly how homo sapiens can turn into ape man. Now Darwin's theory can be exactly buried, and the pedigree of a person is not "from chimpanzees", but exactly the opposite: look, here's a chimpanzee, here's a gorilla ... and when they were homo sapiens.
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  32. Oleg Bok
    Oleg Bok 30 October 2014 10: 16
    +4
    For gas for kaklov something few are willing to pay. where are all friends from Australia to Poland? Freebies can't see something
  33. sever.56
    sever.56 30 October 2014 10: 35
    +19
    "You can't understand dill with your mind,
    And do not measure with a centimeter,
    He was given one thing - to ride,
    And the Russian crap under the door. "
  34. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 30 October 2014 10: 56
    +1
    Quote: vezdehodov

    And in the shops we had almost everything and we had the opportunity to ride.

    Well, not all and not everywhere ... Depends on the city and the level of "consumers". (I will not give examples)
  35. dimon-media
    dimon-media 30 October 2014 11: 03
    +3
    ... that "this is all your Putin, he is preventing us from becoming Europe."

    Madmen .. you are not becoming Europe, you are becoming cancer Europe. Vladimir Putin, and what about Putin? I heard so much dirt about our president that it is disgusting to listen to all sorts of rubbish. Also say that He eats children. On the contrary, he is more interested than others in a developed and prosperous Ukraine. All the same, Ukraine is our neighbor, it is ours (a zone of responsibility, if you like), a buffer zone in front of Europe, as well as cooperation in many industries. What for do we have conflicts there? If you want to go to Europe, star, but forget about all the nonsense on the part of Russia in the field of trade relations within the CIS.
  36. drags33
    drags33 30 October 2014 11: 06
    +23
    The best teacher is Life itself ... It takes expensive, but it teaches intelligibly ...
    Now ukro-ruin reminds me of a chicken with a freshly chopped head. She is still running in convulsions, flapping her wings ... WITHOUT A HEAD ... But her fate has already been DETERMINED !!! Let's drink to the former Ukraine without clinking glasses ...
  37. Alex250834
    Alex250834 30 October 2014 11: 21
    +3
    all to me, immediately and for free - this is the mentality of a generous crest.
    it is not treated, it is a state of mind
  38. Pupon63
    Pupon63 30 October 2014 11: 21
    +7
    Especially since they are assimilated from Europe: of course, Ukrainians are Europeans, well, or almost that, you just need to make the last effort ... It all depends on you! That is, they are kept for useful idiots who, one way or another, can be useful as plumbers and dishwashers.
    Yes, and the flag in their hands !!! And a drum on the neck !!! Refugees from Ukraine also appeared in our city. And already started to download their rights! Work for 15-18 thousand does not suit them, in the clinic, that would be skipped out of turn and so on ........... It's disgusting to look at it !!! am
  39. Userpic
    Userpic 30 October 2014 11: 32
    +2
    Again transfusion from empty to empty.

    In Ukraine, a tragedy occurred: as a result of the Bandera Sabbath, on February 22, according to American orders, it turned into “United Krajina”


    Suppose, well, what do we care?

    If we still have a case for this, if the situation in Ukraine affects our, as it has become fashionable to say now, "national interests", then we should not joke about Ukraine, but ask the question: what exactly, the last decade, did the Russian leadership, threw 200 lard of greenery into the eclonomy of Ukraine, so that no sabbaths would happen in Ukraine?
    1. Victor Kamenev
      30 October 2014 13: 43
      +10
      What did Russia do? We got out of the shit that we got into 90's and got out in the zero years, with Putin. But Ukraine did not get out, and its tragedy is a terrible warning to us, which could happen to Russia, if ... yes, if not for Putin and K.

      By the way, the ideology of "European Utopia" is already leaping in the arsenal of our liberals and even some of the "nationalists". Therefore, Ukrorevolyutsiya for us is an experience, a lesson, and a weapon in the fight against its "fifth column".
      1. Userpic
        Userpic 30 October 2014 15: 27
        -13
        Quote: Victor Kamenev
        We got out of the shit we hit in the 90s
        And if without abstractions? What shit did we get out of and did we get out of?

        and got out in the zero years, with Putin
        What did he do?

        this is a terrible warning to us
        This is a terrible bugbear for you and a good example of what happens when citizens get sick with fetishism and cease to objectively evaluate reality - we lost Ukraine, including thanks to your idol.

        ideology of "European utopia"
        Decrypt.

        weapons in the fight against their "fifth column".
        Names of representatives of the 5th column, capable of at least somehow influencing what is happening in the country, name.
        1. VladVlad
          VladVlad 31 October 2014 09: 04
          +2
          Quote: Userpic
          Names of representatives of the 5th column, capable of at least somehow influencing what is happening in the country, name.


          What do you want to list the entire government and half of the State Duma? And also the names of the oligarchs and their many servants, including the evil-minded-Svanidze-Makarevichs?
          I hope it’s clear that since the end of the 80s, they really affect what is happening in the country, unfortunately.
          There are many of them, so Dugin added the "sixth" to the "fifth column". The monster was bastard, mischievous, huge, staggering and layay ...
          1. Userpic
            Userpic 31 October 2014 10: 00
            0
            Quote: VladVlad
            including zlobin-Svanidze-Makarevich?
            There are a lot of them, so Dugin
            Zlobin-Svanidze-Makarevich does not affect what is happening in the country, and Dugin is an old anti-Soviet drug addict with sluggish schizophrenia.

            What do you want to list the entire government and half of the State Duma?
            You could name a few names of the most prominent representatives, well, it doesn’t matter)))
            I remind you that this government was formed by the president, and the prime minister is his colleague from the St. Petersburg mayor's office - both nursing nests of Sobchakovsky’s nest, working together for 24 years pulling each other up.
            As for the State Duma, the party, which is its greater half, was created, including by Putin, who regularly runs from this party to the polls, and whom this party unanimously puts forward.

            And also the names of the oligarchs
            Which Putin has bred for the past 14 years, and among which are a lot of his friends and colleagues in St. Petersburg.
            1. Victor Kamenev
              31 October 2014 11: 25
              +3
              And Putin also "bred" people like hockey player Ovechkin: "I am proud of Russia", and musician Spivakov: "Putin is the conscience of Russia," some analysts even talk about "Putin's generation." You, however, belong to another "generation", which gladly repeats all the lies from Psak ...
              1. Userpic
                Userpic 31 October 2014 11: 39
                -1
                Quote: Victor Kamenev
                And Putin also "bred" such as hockey player Ovechkin: "I am proud of Russia", and musician Spivakov: "Putin is the conscience of Russia"
                And the singer with his mouth Rastorguev "Russeya - from the Volga to the Yenisei" - nefigovo so cut laughing
                I’m not a fan of hockey and anti-Soviet intellectuals who are the shit of the nation, so I don’t share your enthusiasm among these gentlemen (by the way, they have nothing against the government - the main thing is for them to get money).

                some analysts say
                Analit - is this a profession? Do you know the biographies of these analysts?

                which with pleasure repeats all the lies from Psak ...
                Something you have forgotten to repeat the lie I forgot - why would it? laughing
            2. VladVlad
              VladVlad 31 October 2014 11: 30
              +2
              Quote: Userpic
              Zlobin-Svanidze-Makarevich does not affect what is happening in the country

              It seems so to you.

              Quote: Userpic
              Dugin is an old anti-Soviet drug addict with sluggish schizophrenia.

              It's still better than a young idiot. Although anti-Sovietism, of course, is a diagnosis compatible with Russophobia, ultimately. But gradually treated.

              Quote: Userpic
              One could name a few surnames of the most prominent representatives, well, it doesn't matter

              Medvedev, Shuvalov, Golodets, Dvorkovich, in short all the deputies, except Rogozin. The entire financial and economic bloc of the government (Siluanov, Ulyukaev) plus a dozen key figures in other areas, with the possible exception of the siloviki, Lavrov da Medinsky. Plus the leadership of the Central Bank. Surnames can be found on the official sites.

              Quote: Userpic
              the government is formed by the president,

              Quote: Userpic
              As for the State Duma, the party, which is its largest half, was created, including by Putin

              As Stalin said, however, about the writers: "I have no others, I have to work with these." The government cannot be drastically changed and removed. The time of the 37th Stalinist year has not yet come. He, too, endured for fifteen years.
              And the State Duma will then cut itself.
              The same goes for the oligarchs. When Deng Xiaoping was asked what was the most difficult for you when you were rebuilding the country, he replied: Planting your friends ...
              We are waiting, when Putin will become more decisive.
              1. Userpic
                Userpic 31 October 2014 12: 56
                0
                Quote: VladVlad
                It seems so to you
                Is this an argument? laughing
                Examples of influence, please ...

                Quote: Userpic
                It's better than a young idiot
                The young idiot has a chance because of his age.

                But gradually treated
                At best, replaced, but this is not about Dugin.

                Medvedev, Shuvalov, Golodets, Dvorkovich, in short all the deputies,
                Who approved them in these posts? Who shuffles them all the time?

                except Rogozin
                Oh yes: Rogozin, who merged Rodina, is one of those who hung out on the Maidan in 2004 laughing

                The entire financial and economic block of the government (Siluanov, Ulyukaev) plus a dozen key figures in other areas
                Who approved them?

                excluding maybe
                Impossible - exactly the same, and approved by the same master.

                As Stalin said, however, about the writers: "I have no others, I have to work with these"
                This was said in relation to the writer's quarrelsomeness and inanimity of the characters, and I do not deceive that you need to be reminded of what happened to real enemies)))

                It is impossible to abruptly change and remove the government
                15 years is sharp? belay
                And who have been replaced in these 15 years?

                The time has not yet come for the 37th Stalin year. He, too, suffered XNUMX years
                What did he endure, and what happened to the country during this period of patience?

                We are waiting, when Putin will become more decisive.
                And when? smile
                1. VladVlad
                  VladVlad 31 October 2014 18: 53
                  0
                  Quote: Userpic
                  Is this an argument?
                  Examples of influence, please ...
                  With what fright I will argue my negative answer to the unfounded statement: "Zlobins-Svanidze-Makarevich
                  1. VladVlad
                    VladVlad 31 October 2014 20: 24
                    0
                    Something with the site. Chopped off the answer to a certain Userpick at the very beginning half a word. It's a pity. The answer was complete, clear and detailed, I do not want to write again.
                    Hello, comrade moderator, maybe there is a lost text? Or take away then this scrap, which is higher. Later I will answer.
                    If desire and time reappear.
                    1. Userpic
                      Userpic 1 November 2014 02: 31
                      0
                      Quote: VladVlad
                      With what fright I will argue my negative answer to the unfounded statement: "Zlobins-Svanidze-Makarevich
                      In other words, to come up with examples did not work)))
                      1. VladVlad
                        VladVlad 1 November 2014 09: 01
                        0
                        There were other words, my good, were. Lost through no fault of mine (see above). If I really want to, I can continue to answer boring questions that require clarification of the obvious. There is no time now. Honestly, there’s no particular desire to chew someone to swallow something ready instead of thinking for yourself.
                      2. Userpic
                        Userpic 1 November 2014 11: 18
                        0
                        Don't talk nonsense
    2. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 30 October 2014 15: 48
      -2
      pursued a policy of "non-interference in internal affairs" of "sovereign" Ukraine
  40. Dimitr
    Dimitr 30 October 2014 11: 47
    0
    Quote: SRC P-15
    Quote: rotmistr60
    And this faith has almost destroyed them.

    And in the end, they will remain at the broken "European trough"!

    But the Russians will be to blame for this anyway! We are to blame for everything, even the general stupor of Ukrainian citizens!
  41. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 October 2014 11: 47
    +1
    They were captured by the belief in a great Ukrainian freebie, that they, “CE Europe”, will become Europe tomorrow


    Even J. Verne is far from such sophisticated fantasies!
    Here dill is bent, and the meerkatosa are completely oh. Inel from their stupidity !!!
  42. givigor71
    givigor71 30 October 2014 11: 54
    +5
    without words...
  43. givigor71
    givigor71 30 October 2014 11: 55
    +6
    without words...
    1. Valery Siberia
      Valery Siberia 30 October 2014 16: 20
      +1
      This one, the second on the left, moves very efficiently. So specifically, practical, as it should ...))
  44. GUKTU
    GUKTU 30 October 2014 12: 02
    +9
    ... only the role of the communist utopia is played by the European democratic utopia ...


    And I liked the Soviet Union which was ruled by the communists. Free education, medicine, trips to sanatoriums, the most powerful army, we were the first in space, etc. When I took the oath (remember?: "I am a citizen of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics ...") I was ready to give my life for it all. But now I am somehow wondering whether it is worth giving my life for Chubais, Dyachenko and others ... Do not judge strictly, of course I will go to fight and defend the Motherland, but I do not agree with the "communist utopia"
    1. Victor Kamenev
      30 October 2014 13: 52
      +3
      Go to A.A. Zinoviev, a philosopher, an anti-communist, but ... a "romantic communist," mind. in 2006. Strictly speaking, communism is a utopia, but it is no better or worse than a democratic utopia, it is simply not lucky historically. This is the conclusion of the philosopher-logic Zinoviev.
      1. VladVlad
        VladVlad 31 October 2014 09: 30
        +1
        Zinoviev at the end of his life rethought a lot, and did the right thing. And such a definition of communism is only a working hypothesis, not more. How can one definitely, with a high degree of probability call something utopia, if this something else did not exist? If we were not allowed to build it + we ourselves could not?
        Humanity, if it is smart, someday will come to communism, then it will be possible to say whether it is utopia or not.
    2. Buchki
      Buchki 30 October 2014 13: 57
      0
      Yes, everything is so, but the forerunner of everything idyllic that you described above was the famine of 1921-22, the repression of 1937, etc.
      1. VladVlad
        VladVlad 31 October 2014 08: 54
        +1
        The repressions of 37-38 were precisely the removal of the then "fifth column" from power. The correct and necessary measure at that time. The victims are mainly those who "overdone" in the twenties. And the common people understood this perfectly, confidence in Stalin grew stronger before the war with the Nazis. Now we have the same situation. Will Putin want to do the same?
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    4. vtnsk
      vtnsk 30 October 2014 20: 23
      +1
      Each system of government has its own "pluses" and "minuses". Unfortunately, it is simply impossible to come up with one that will suit absolutely the entire population of the country due to the individualism of each of the citizens ... smile
  45. press officer
    press officer 30 October 2014 12: 17
    +1
    Quote: APES
    Quote: СРЦ П-15
    they will stay


    the newly elected parliament of Ukraine made its first appeal:

    "Europe !!! We are crazy about you !!!"

    Europe replied: "You are crazy without us"

    P / S FREEZERS WILL NOT


    Poland has already spoken in favor of dill freebies, Germany has also sent to hell, I remember the last rassmusen or the same mud.ila. as they said that dill in the EU in the next 10 years will not take ... Bravo! The curtain! bully And we will still always be to blame for these dill .. without us they can’t do anything .. fool
  46. Turk
    Turk 30 October 2014 12: 51
    +3
    Quote: Crutch
    Nothing in the world is so cheap and nothing is valued so dearly as a FREEBY! Ukrainians, you have to pay in full for everything.
  47. Altona
    Altona 30 October 2014 13: 11
    +3
    http://stockinfocus.ru/2014/07/28/kak-ya-stal-ukrainofobom-ili-pro-poezdku-k-tes
    hhe-vo-lvov /
    -------------------
    How did I become a Ukrainophobe or about a trip to mother-in-law in Lviv

    I was born and raised in Slobozhanshchina. In 1999 he moved to Kharkov and lived there safely until 2012. Living in Kharkov, I had a pink dream - to go to the city of Lviv. But the lack of free time and 19 hours on the train in one direction only put off my dream over and over again.

    And it happened, by the will of fate and strange circumstances that lasted two years and passed through cities such as Kiev, Lublin, Kosice, I had a girl who was a native of Lviv. So I came to her in the summer of 2012. I had five days, and we spent these five days to good use - we went to Skole, Mukachevo, bathed in a mountain river, went to the mountains, we even got to an event where we sat at a table with the mayor of Lviv ... Lvov brought me down very good impression. A beautiful city, beautiful architecture, many original, thematic institutions, the aroma of coffee and the general atmosphere of the holiday. When leaving, I took away a lot of impressions, hundreds of photos and the joy of the fact that my pink dream finally came true.
    In autumn 2012, I moved to Lviv ... First impressions of the city were funny and sometimes unpleasant. Firstly, the city is rather small, but the lack of metro and narrow streets created constant traffic jams. Even the main, multi-lane arteries of the city sometimes froze and moved at a snail's speed, not to mention the small streets.

    Secondly - the salary, as I used to get in Kharkov, on average, five and a half thousand hryvnia, of which two went to the apartment. Here, for work, on the same profile, they offered me two thousand and these two offered with such pride ... this is as much as TWO thousand hryvnias. To be honest, after the first phone calls to the employer, I just went nuts. Two thousand and this, given that for a rented apartment you had to pay two + communal.

    Thirdly, if you do not go to the center, then there is no feeling that you live in Lviv. Ordinary sleeping areas, the same planned buildings, the same panel and brick houses, as well as throughout the former USSR. The first few days I didn’t even have the feeling of moving. It just felt like I had lost my job and moved to another apartment.
    1. Altona
      Altona 30 October 2014 13: 13
      +2
      Fourth, the lack of beautiful girls. More precisely, not an absolute absence, but a very small percentage. I even had a joke after a while - “There are two beautiful girls in Lviv, I got married to one, and have not seen the second yet.” That was my first. Not a tourist look at Lviv.
      555 days in Lviv ... or how I became a Ukrainophobe.

      Then went the search for work. In Kharkov, for 8 years I have been making upholstered furniture; I was satisfied with both work and salary. Here for the same work I was offered much less. But there’s nothing to do, and I went for an interview. He talked normally, a large company, a three-story building + production workshop, billboards with advertising throughout the city and a website on the Internet. They showed me the production, all the machines were familiar, the scope of work, too. The next day I went to work.

      On the first day a pleasant surprise awaited me, the whole tool and all consumables were given out by the storekeeper. Previously, this was not the case, the employer issued a minimum set of tools, and everything else is self-financing. Everything was issued here, from a drill to an extension cord. And then unpleasant surprises fell. Based on my past work experience at a furniture company, I knew that there was a team of joiners who cut parts, and your task as a cabinetmaker was to assemble these parts into a frame and give them to tight-fitting people.

      It immediately turned out that there were no joiners, and you cut all the blanks yourself. It seems to be not critical, there are hands, but ... a chipboard sheet has a weight of 50 to 75 kg, it seems a little, but its dimensions are 2.5-3 meters and bring it yourself is unrealistic, I'm not talking about cutting it. It turned out that in order to cut the plate you need to find an assistant, the same collector as you, tear him from work, bring a sheet with it and saw it on a machine to such a size that one person can handle the parts.
      On my proposal - “Maybe it's worth creating teams of two people” I saw by facial expression, they did not understand me. Well, no, no, no ... I started to get into work, having received the task and having caught an assistant, we began to cut the sheet, but ... the cutting table was about 50 by 70 cm in size, without stops and guides. He drew a line with a pencil and lead along the saw, relying on his eye and hand strength. To my suggestion - “Let's weld the frame, extend the table and make a stubborn ruler for the accuracy and safety of the cut” I did not understand again, or rather understood, but the counter-question was “Well, it’s so nice, please wait so long.”

      After that, the innovator fell asleep in me, they don’t climb into a strange monastery with their charter, well, okay. In general, the organization of labor in the workshop was, to put it mildly, strange - the hood puffed so that it would be better not, the sawdust from one machine was thrown to the workplace in the neighborhood so that a pile of shavings formed on a person’s head, it was difficult to breathe from fine dust, there was no heating and zero temperature was in the workshop.
      1. Altona
        Altona 30 October 2014 13: 14
        +1
        On the second day, during a dinner, my colleague asked where I came from and when I found out that I began to make strange speeches from Kharkov. I was surprised to find out that we have everything for Yanukovych there, that there is no Ukrainian spirit in us. We do not honor the famine, we look towards it for friendship, and in the Crimea we have a strong fleet and that if we give this fleet to the pits, Ukraine will end. To my arguments that in September I sailed alongside this strong fleet and saw only a dull rusty shit that was doubly rusty and depressing compared to the Russian ships standing next to me, the man did not pay attention. As it turned out later, my enlightener himself lives near Lviv, he has never been to Kharkov and Crimea, but he could take the post of minister for general issues in terms of world perception and outlook.

        My work at this glorious enterprise was completed on the third day. My assistant and I cut a sheet of chipboard and ended our cutting so that the sheet, reaching the saw almost to the end, fell apart under its own weight and knocked my partner's fingers directly onto the saw blade ... red drops were dripped onto the countertop. After that I handed over the tools and quit. Health is more expensive.
        555 days in Lviv ... or how I became a Ukrainophobe.

        Arriving home and opening a newspaper with vacancies, I came across an ad in which I needed a sales manager for upholstered furniture. I decided to call - because if there are such salaries. It’s better I’ll sit in the office for two thousand, and not freeze in the cold workshop. I called and made an appointment. Before the meeting, I drove the name of the company into a search engine, everything is as it should, advertising, your website, registered trademark ... you can immediately see a solid company. With a light heart, I went to meet. The interview was funny, I talked to ukrom as best I could, it even seemed to me to be doing pretty well, although it probably looked funny from the outside. They showed me the office, showed production, showed the lineup, it suited me, I did them too. The next day I went to work ...
        1. Altona
          Altona 30 October 2014 13: 14
          +3
          In Kharkov, I worked at two furniture firms, not even firms, but just Ch.P. without big names, in the name of the director. Director in the first C.P. he worked at a furniture factory for a long time, then decided to organize his own enterprise. First he drove furniture for a penny with a trailer, then, having earned money and developing a business, he bought a Gazelle. He had 7 workers, he himself served as a purchaser, driver, sales manager, cutter and technologist. He drove a Hyundai Tucson and built a two-story house ...

          The second director started his business by making kitchen corners in the attic, but over time, production grew to a full-fledged workshop. He had about 17 workers subordinate, furniture was transported by two Tata trucks, the director himself often worked in the workshop and differed from the ordinary worker only in a thick gold bracelet on his hand, he was a buyer, a technologist and sometimes a driver. At the same time, I went to Suzuki Grand Vitara and had furniture, in Ukraine, only for sale, for half a million hryvnias.

          And there was a DIRECTOR in Lviv, he was in the office, he constantly attended sales seminars, had a bunch of diplomas from these seminars and was very proud of them, the company had a big name, advertising and even its own sewn-in tags in furniture. In the submission of the DIRECTOR there was: a director of the management department, two sales managers, an accountant, a purchaser, a designer, a production manager, one seamstress, two workers and one auxiliary worker, there was also a hired driver with his car. At the same time, the DIRECTOR rode a minibus, had a bunch of loans and dreamed of supplying furniture to 12 hotels in Sochi for the 2014 Olympics.
          555 days in Lviv ... or how I became a Ukrainophobe.

          It was interesting to work there, for a short period of time I created a small customer base, but I faced one global problem, there are shops ready to put our furniture up for sale, but there is no money to make this furniture. We had enough for three stores, and then we switched to ordering with prepaid catalogs, but there were a lot of catalogs in the store and sales. In addition, the prices were quite high compared to competitors, we drove a car for a meter of fabric, for a pack of screws, for a piece of chipboard, everything was more expensive at retail and transportation costs, all this affected the cost of our furniture.

          Quality, on the contrary, for some reason suffered, we broke the deadlines, we did absolutely illogical things. For example: our seamstress sewed a cover, and the joiner customized the frame for him five times redoing the product. We changed the dimensions of the product given by the customer and after delivery to the house we explained why we did it and that it would not have been possible with the size of the customer. We had constant returns, we bought fabric from small wholesalers, as from individuals, because the company owed money to everyone, there were constant returns and alterations. In the absence of sales, we wrote some insane reports to the DIRECTOR, went to seminars with him and constantly lied to everyone by phone, customers, creditors, suppliers ...
          1. Altona
            Altona 30 October 2014 13: 15
            +3
            Sometimes the DIRECTOR broke through to talk about the great, about yah, I don’t know what they did to him, but his pink dream was a monument in Lviv to Dzhokhar Dudaev which I would hold in my hand. The funny thing is that the DIRECTOR mainly spoke in Russian and dreamed of trading in addition to the monument with these same me.
            555 days in Lviv ... or how I became a Ukrainophobe.

            In my free time, I delved into nete and argued with a familiar Lviv citizen about the Soviet legacy in Ukraine. The man was very aggressive towards the invaders, scoops, Stalin and everything connected with the USSR, he believed that it was Galichina that should bring the light of Ukrainization to the stray southeast. And then I became interested, and who are these Galicians, began to collect information, the benefit of my bride and her mother are very well versed in architecture and in history and in the political addictions of the native land.

            It turned out the following - officially the city was founded by Danilo Galitsky in 1250, and then ... here's a short list of the main events taking place in Lviv.
            1. Altona
              Altona 30 October 2014 13: 16
              +3
              1247 the wedding of Leo I with Constance (presumably in Lviv),
              1256 the first written mention of Lviv,
              1261 the destruction of the fortifications of the city at the request of the Tatars,
              1270 Leo I lays down two castles in Lviv,
              1283 year siege of Lviv by Tatars,
              1287 siege of the city by Tatars,
              1340 the last prince Yuri II was poisoned, the city was burned by Casimir III, who plundered the princely treasury,
              1349 year capture of the city of Casimir III,
              1353 the city was burned by Lubart,
              1356 Casimir III gives the city the Magdeburg Law,
              1379 the introduction of the region into Hungary,
              1381 the fire destroys the wooden Lviv,
              1387 Lviv is part of Poland,
              1578, a Cossack Ivan Podkova was executed in Lvov (Galicians scream loudly about their Cossack spirit if that),
              1648 the siege of the city by the army of Bogdan Khmelnitsky,
              1655 the siege of the city by the army of Bogdan Khmelnitsky,
              1700 the transition to the union of the Galician archdiocese, in other words, the transition to Greek Catholicism,
              1704 the capture of the city by the Swedes,
              1769 attack on the city of lordly confederates,
              1772 the city passed under the control of Austria,
              1786 year abolition of Magdeburg Law.
              1809, simultaneously with the onset of Napoleon in Austria, the Polish army from the Duchy of Warsaw entered Galicia. The Poles took Lviv and tried to capture Metropolitan Anton Angelovich and Mikhail Garasevich. However, the following month, they were driven out by the Russians as allies of the Kaiser, who in September transferred Lviv to Austria.
              1848 in Vienna caused mass demonstrations in Krakow and Lviv.
              On March 19, a mass demonstration in support of the revolution took place in Lviv, during which the program of the national movement of Galicia was adopted, designed as an address to Emperor Ferdinand I. Among the requirements of this program were the abolition of corvée and the elimination of serfdom, the autonomy of Galicia and the introduction of POLISH !!! language in schools and state administration, the removal of foreign officials, the proclamation of democratic freedoms, the introduction of equality of citizens before the law and the reorganization of the provincial Sejm.
              1914, September Lviv was occupied by Russian troops,
              1915, June 22, Lviv returned to the power of Austria-Hungary,
              1918, October 20, a large rally of Lviv residents took place on St. Jura Square, at which Konstantin Levitsky announced the “decision of the Ukrainian National Council on the formation of the Ukrainian State within the framework of Austria-Hungary”.
              1918, November 1, at state institutions national Ukrainian flags were posted and the Western Ukrainian People's Republic was proclaimed.
              1919, in July, the Poles received Galicia and included it in the second Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
              1939, September 22, the city became part of the USSR,
              1941, June 30, Lviv was captured by the German army,
              The year 1943, with the participation of the leadership of the Galicia district, representatives of the Ukrainian public and the clergy of Lviv, a solemn proclamation of the Act on the creation of a Ukrainian formation with the name Streletskaya SS division “Galichina” took place
              1944, July 27, Soviet troops entered the city ...
              1991 independence
              1. Altona
                Altona 30 October 2014 13: 17
                +2
                As we see the “Ukrainian” Lviv ended in the year of 1340. I don’t know where all the time there were “patriotism and patriotism”, maybe in some kind of caches. Ukrainians as such enter the arena only in 1939, when Stalin brings troops here and hurries out the Poles, and in such a hurry that people jumped on the train with one suitcase, leaving most of their belongings in their apartments and houses.

                An almost empty city is given for settlement to the local population who lived in the surrounding villages, the peasants rejoiced at such a turn take the city (I, of course, admit that the resettlement to the city was forced, but I believe very little in it) to the construction of which they had nothing to do. And then I wondered why the Galicians accuse the USSR of occupation? The Poles should shout about this first of all, and the Galicians, on the contrary, should thank, for having received a ready-made city, on the historical part of which they still earn money. And if everything is done in fairness, then Lviv, or rather Leopolis, must be returned to the owners of the city, the Poles.

                Then it became interesting to me how the Galicians lived in the Polish Leopolis. And they didn’t live as full-fledged townspeople, mainly on the rights of servants and servants, in the city there were even streets on which only Austrians and Poles were allowed to make a promenade (pathos to walk). If, however, a prosperous, but Galician, wandered there, then he could be fined. There was a promenade for the Galicians. Many houses were built with two entrances: the front door for the Polish masters and the black one for the Galician servants ... In general, as I understand it, the freedom-loving Galicians lived quietly under their pan and did not hear about any occupation ...
                555 days in Lviv ... or how I became a Ukrainophobe.

                And then Stalin came, the Poles were gone, the city was populated by former servants and villagers. Most likely, it was then that the term “raguli” appeared (although Wikipedia gives different options). Ragul is a peasant who moved to the city, but remained with the village in his head. It got ridiculous, the new townspeople turned the adjoining flower beds into mini gardens (doesn’t the current Maidan remind you of anything?) By the way, the word “raguli” is still used for its intended purpose.

                The expulsion of the Poles served the city poorly, for many decades the city was left almost without intelligentsia. If we take as a basis the assertion that - “The intellectual must have three diplomas, his, father and grandfather”, then the new, Ukrainian Lviv simply did not have time to raise his own ... We argued with my acquaintance for more than a month and ended the conversation after the words ... So you don’t like Galicians, are you going to get married with Galicians? To which I answered. She is not Galician, she is normal.

                After that, my friend retired from friends and we did not communicate with him anymore.
                I can say thanks to him, if it weren’t for him, I wouldn’t be so inspired by the topic and would know much less about the region in which I live.
                1. Altona
                  Altona 30 October 2014 13: 18
                  +3
                  And indeed, I noticed that after living in Lviv for almost half a year, I began to relate to the local population much worse. Firstly, in the language issue, the Galicians are 100% in favor of the Ukrainian language, but they speak their own dialect, it has a lot of borrowings from Polish, and Ukrainian words are distorted so that it cuts the ear. Somehow I asked my wife to make a small sample of the “Galician govirka”, so that they could answer the question ... - “How are you?” I decided to scare friends from Kharkov. It turned out this: “All right, I was trying to fuck the coot, I was going to the Chandelier, I bought the fake mesh on the obcasses, then I was walking with the big guy and they pulled the big pampuh, but the guy was completely dry and the little one was wearing garu. Prior to the hati, I went in for some reform. And so on the calypіtra, I’ve so triskla, but my cadre was not interrogated by vasteritsy. ” In its pure form, this hour is unlikely to be heard, but partial intersperses in the Ukrainian language are quite common.

                  Secondly - a characteristic feature of the Galicians is ostentatious piety. On Sundays, churches are crowded with parishioners, families go there, in embroidered shirts, to be shown so that everyone can see. It seems to be good, but to say that people are becoming kinder, I did not notice. When the minibus passes by the church 70% of passengers cross themselves, the men take off their caps and bow. Everyone is baptized, regardless of gender and age, but if a grandmother or an old man stands next to him, the seated youth will cross themselves and cross themselves, but the place will not give way. Events such as weddings, communions, baptisms, etc. celebrated on a wedding scale. They order restaurants, invite all relatives, all this is necessarily photographed, otherwise it makes no sense, then there will be nothing to brag about.

                  Separately, you need to stop on the topic of embroidery. They are very kind to her here. After spring comes, and warm clothes are hidden on the mezzanine, embroidered shirts capture the city. They are worn from small to large, women and men, different in color and type of embroidery. It would seem, but what's wrong with that, but ... Firstly, very often an embroidered shirt is worn in a strange combination, for example, with sweatpants, shorts, mini-skirts, etc.

                  Secondly, the embroidered shirt was firmly tied to Ukrainian patriotism, if you are a patriot, you must have an embroidered shirt, it’s like a fetish, as a component of statehood. Moreover, putting a mini-embroidered shirt on a cat or a dog is also patriotism and is in no way regarded as a mockery of a national symbol.

                  Sometimes it comes to frank insanity, on the Independence Day even monuments are dressed in embroidered shirts. For example, in Market Square you can see Neptune, Diyana, Amphitrite and Adonis in embroidered shirts. I don’t know what the Roman gods deserved this honor for, but once the Lviv patriots, dressing Neptune, overdid it and broke his arm in a fit of patriotism (a fountain sculpture, if anything, was created in 1793). Then the city authorities for a long time could not find to whom this monument belongs and who is responsible for its repair, but that's another story ....

                  Thirdly, they dress her with or without reason, on weekdays, at home, at work or school. But if you look at what embroidery actually meant for our ancestors. This is an element of rural clothing inherent in villages and villages. And so a person who goes to work in a suit and ties a tie to his embroidered shirt looks at least stupid. Here you need to decide who you are? The descendants of the very same Raguli who moved to the city, but left a village in their heads and then embroidered the very same or modern townspeople, who are almost Europe ..
                  So it turns out that now, having turned the embroidered shirt into a banner, we completely lost its historical meaning.
                  1. Altona
                    Altona 30 October 2014 13: 19
                    +2
                    Read from various sources, I have a definite view of Galicia. People lived for 600 years under European pan, mainly in villages, oppressed by the next occupier, they accumulated resentment and hatred. Over six centuries, the Galicians have formed a separate ethnic group, with their own culture, their own outlook on life and the footprint of the occupier in their soul and history.

                    In the spring, the DIRECTOR realized that it was no longer possible to work like that and decided that he needed to create his own online store. Taking another loan, he set to work, surprisingly, the store turned out to be pretty good, bilingual, with an intuitive interface, with good photos that fit into the interior (thanks to the designer), a large lineup on two branches of economy and elite. The store began to work somewhere in April and immediately we encountered such a problem as delivery. Considering that we didn’t have our own car to transport furniture even in Lviv, we planned to deliver to another city through such services as “New Mail”, “Delivery”, “Night Express”, but taking into account the dimensions, delivery added to the cost and so expensive furniture is still about 1000 hryvnia. Accordingly, we were not in demand.

                    And then the DIRECTOR decided that in order to increase sales, we needed an exhibition hall for furniture, we found a hall within a week and faced another problem - there is a hall, but there is no money for a furniture exhibition, but everything was decided, we took away from the store what stood on implementation, cleaned something, dragged the fabric in some places, and it turned out that there were about five models.

                    Before the opening of the exhibition hall, I did not finalize. There was an order for two similar sofas for the kitchen, one we sent from Sevastopol, the second to Kiev, upon payment we were waiting for a salary. And again, the unforeseen happened ... fanfare ... a sofa went to Sevastopol 60 cm shorter from the ordered, to Kiev a corner sofa with an angle in the wrong direction (instead of a 7 -... G-cabinet, who understands the subject), a salary mirage melted in the fog. After that I quit.
                    1. Altona
                      Altona 30 October 2014 13: 20
                      +2
                      I didn’t earn much money at this job, but I pulled up my Ukrainian relatively well, mastered Exel, made friends with office equipment and learned to write fake reports, about nothing.

                      I did not sit a day without work, as I received an offer from a friend to go to work in a photo studio for her coum. Having gone for an interview, I was conditionally accepted and sent for a week to learn Photoshop.

                      Photoshop got used to it in a week, they gave me the basics, and then google to help. At the end of the internship, I was sent to one of the salons to work. There were two of us in the cabin, me and the seller. My responsibilities included: photo on documents, photo processing, preparing photos for printing on mugs, t-shirts, watches, pillows, etc., easy designer photo processing and printing of everything that is possible from the media. In general, I had everything that a photo salon could provide in terms of services, and the seller traded in photographic products, made a copy machine and kept a cash register.

                      Starting to work, I began to wonder. Clients came to us and asked for photo albums for the First Communion, somehow, while living in Kharkov, I knew about the sacrament, but I could not imagine that such attention could be paid to him. As it turned out in the life of the Galicians, the first communion is an event, no, not so ... it's an EVENT. The first sacrament in importance is a mixture of wedding, anniversary and prom combined.

                      When the child reached the age of ten, he was prepared for the first communion, sewed a dress or a suit, convened guests and relatives, and probably everyone who could come came, ordered a restaurant and noisily noted, all while taking pictures (for what this album is actually needed was). In addition, photos were taken for guests, very often the number of guests in the picture was equal to the number of copies of the photos, so that each one (By the way, for those who are not in the know, the photograph is in Ukrainian “Svitlin”).

                      Virtually the same magnitude was noted and christening. A separate point was the entry into the church rank. If someone was lucky and a relative who went along the church line joined the dignity, then these photos with trepidation were raised almost to the level of an icon. The religiousness of the city is sometimes simply amazing, according to Wikipedia, according to the 2009 census, there are 99 typical Christian churches in Lviv and 11 more churches are under construction. Imagine how to sin, so that in a city in which about 700 thousand inhabitants had to build almost a hundred churches.

                      I have never worked in a photo studio and cannot compare Kharkov photo studio and Lviv photo studio, but our clients were original. Having bought myself a digital camera in 2006, I somehow stopped printing photos and naively thought that the others were doing the same, but I was wrong, they print and how. The main customers were parents, mostly mothers, they made us cash, printing several hundred photographs of their cubs. 703 photographs became the record, in the photo there are six characters: mom, dad, two children under ten years old, grandfather and grandmother. All photos are taken in the apartment and mine once.

                      There were a lot of photos from religious holidays: christening, communion, wedding, consecration of everything and everything. We were also visited by a regular client, a colorful grandfather in an embroidered shirt, with a bushy mustache, printed colored posters about the OUN-UPA and poems about Bandera.
                      1. Altona
                        Altona 30 October 2014 13: 21
                        +2
                        I was very lucky with the seller, a cheerful, cheerful aunt, noisy, with many stories about nothing, but easy to talk to and never gave up to superiors. Unfortunately, due to a conflict with the client, she was transferred to another point, and a new seller was brought to me.

                        This creation was called Myrosya ... damn me already cringe on her behalf, that's how you can turn a relatively good name of Miroslav into Myrosya. She was retired, but in order not to stay at home, she went to work, and in a situation where she squinted, she constantly shouted: “I don’t care, I’m a pensioner, I can quit and that’s all, I don’t need this job.”

                        As always, at the beginning of the meeting questions began, who came from, why he moved, etc. And they started telling me about life, in the east in general and in Slobozhanshchina in particular. To me! The man who came here less than a year ago is told about life in Kharkov, a woman who has not left Lviv for the past twenty-three years.

                        Again I learned a lot of things: the old story about the fact that everything is for Yanukovych, that everyone is intimidated there, stupid, scoops and quilted jackets dreaming of lying under Russia. But in Galicia, the mind, honor and conscience of the nation and stuff like that ... My arguments and arguments were not taken seriously. She only reacted non-standardly to one. When I said that in Kharkov I didn’t pay at the clinic for an appointment, but here I need to put a fifty dollars to the doctor, otherwise it’s better to self-medicate. She emotionally agreed that everyone should stick a bribe, otherwise there would be no sense. She didn’t react to my remark that, probably, it makes “svidomykh” take “swag”.

                        You can write a lot about “swag” in Lviv, in the beginning I really thought that they take less, if at all, because they are all “good and good”. Then he was stunned - they take everything from a nurse who gives you an injection, a 5-UAH fee, don’t give it, he will prick it so that you’ll drag your foot for half a day, until the mayor of the city who allocates space for building for a solid jackpot.

                        They told a story - a foreign investor came to the city leadership, the offer was gorgeous. An investor is building a garbage recycling plant outside the city limits, while in addition, he buys garbage from the city, which later processes it into some kind of fuel. They hinted to the investor that everything was decided for a bribe, this was probably perplexing, but the Sordimords still wanted a share of the profits, the European got hardened from such hints and left home. As a result, everyone was left with their own, the mayor without a bribe or share, a city with garbage, an investor with impressions of "Ukrainian business" ...

                        The seller working with me was strange - on the one hand, she was a native Lviv woman, but as the wife of a military officer under the Soviet Union she lived in Russia and herself admitted that this was the best time in her life and stability was real and her salary and friends were real. On the other hand, she hated the USSR and Russia fiercely, considered Putin the second after Satan, and believed that Galichina was real Ukraine, and everything else was an offensive fake. The main culprit of troubles is b. Realizing that it was useless to appeal to the mind of this woman, I stopped arguing, sat in nete when I was out of work, periodically dodging my colleagues’ attempts to take me to watch the Roksolana series.
                      2. Altona
                        Altona 30 October 2014 13: 22
                        +4
                        In September I got married, the wedding was wrong by the Lviv standards. Only 15 people, without a wedding, in a cafe, my wife even sewed a dress herself, because the standard white bells annoyed both her and me. As it turned out for the Galicians, the registry office is of mediocre importance, the main rite in the church, the rest is formal. They are preparing for the wedding very seriously, they plan as a large-scale military operation. I don’t know all the features of a local wedding - but there is such a tradition, to go to the Shevchenkovsky Guy open-air museum and do the “Perelaz climb.” The mystery of the action is that there is a small wicker fence, you need to climb back and forth through it, I don’t know what is the point, but there are huge lines to this fence, but we didn’t even participate in it, for which I am absolutely not ashamed.

                        Lviv is a city with a population of about 700 thousand people, but it turned out to be not so big. Oleg Tyagnibok lived near my mother-in-law’s house, my wife’s aunt is familiar with his mother and grandmother. According to Olezhka’s stories, the whole family is nailed from around the corner. At first the boy successfully walked along the Komsomol line, but then he successfully repainted, nationalized and branded his past ... Irina Farion led my wife “Dilova Ukranian Move”, she did not hesitate to wear mini-skirts, which looked comical under her crooked legs.

                        Each pair began with the phrase “Good afternoon, love friends of the lobsters”, and then students were taught not the subject, but were carved out in a strange way, the notebook was divided into two halves and in the same column they wrote “CORRECTLY” to the other “WRONGLY” and so for a whole year. Now this “RIGHT-WRONG” hangs in Lviv minibuses edited by the FREEDOM party, there they teach in the same manner how to communicate in public transport. Farion students did not even teach students to swear, “by filthy mother-tongues”, but by “soloviniy movi”.

                        Moreover, if you were suddenly suspected that you were “by” by name or accent, then passing the credit was problematic. At the same time, the “Svidomo Patriot” absolutely did not hesitate to take bribes. In his youth, Farion also followed the Komsomol line and even joined the party, all the more so she joined the party when it was possible not to do this, then the national consciousness was already raising her head. Having made the wrong choice, she orientated herself and repainted in yellow-blue tones, while she still didn’t leave the CPSU.

                        My wife's older sister talked to Vakarchuk, in his youth it was a nondescript, notorious dwarf with whom the girls did not want to dance. He already tried to play music and his main hit was the song ... "I am Mikkimaus" ...
                      3. Altona
                        Altona 30 October 2014 13: 22
                        +3
                        In general, to communicate with my mother-in-law was informative. She is a native of Lviv, a teacher at the university, writes books for students and draws paintings in her free time. Fluent in three languages ​​- Russian, Ukrainian and Polish. Her view of her hometown is the opinion of an established, intelligent person leading an active social life. She told a lot of interesting things about her university, for example: after the collapse of the union, many quite adequate people repainted and unexpectedly became "wide" and "svidomimi".

                        One of her colleagues said, I’ll kill you, but since we have been working together for a long time, I won’t spend the cartridge on you, I will suffocate my hair. To say that I was shocked is to say nothing. Hearing this from a young cheer patriot is half the trouble, but from an adult man, a teacher ... brrrr. And at the dawn of independence. Her university wanted to rename them. Stepan Bandera, with the motivation that he studied there for two years. The university was saved only by the intervention of the Polish side, which was the founder of this educational institution. Poles at the state level put forward a note of protest and threatened to break off diplomatic relations ...

                        Days went by days, at work it got worse, firstly, relations with the seller, secondly, the director increased staff and reduced working days. As a result, I began to work 4 days a week, the salary fell to 1800-1900. Having once stuck with the director to speak Ukromov, I made conclusions, and when he came to our place I switched to the state language, when he was not there, I spoke in my native “Russian”. While working with the old seller, everything was calm, they didn’t lay me down, but here the national consciousness of Myrosi simply did not allow her to remain silent, I scored, no matter what happens, there will be nothing more than dismiss.

                        In November, Ukraine got sick with euromaidan, from the first days I became its adversary, downloading the PDF file of the contract for myself, I probably read this nudotin for two weeks, after reading I trolled the Euromaidan people, but having concluded that no one had read the contract, I cut down the requirements and just asked the next down with the euroflag - “How many countries are in the eurozone? ... people hung up, the wildest counted stars ... maidan turned out to be an incurable diagnosis that changes the psyche irrevocably.

                        In Lviv, the roof was also demolished, and a maidan appeared. Passing sometimes by, I was always surprised - on it they either sang the anthem of Ukraine, or prayed, for another activity I did not observe local Europatriots. Over time, army tents appeared there, giving shelter to the homeless and the most “svidomim”, who for some reason did not go to Kiev. Over time, insanity grew stronger and Lviv built his barricade, dragged tires, sandbags and other garbage, built. Why it is not clear, she stood in a strategically disadvantageous place, no one stormed her and, in my opinion, no one was guarding. The city just needed a barricade and it was built, for show.
                      4. Altona
                        Altona 30 October 2014 13: 24
                        +16
                        After some time, our boss gave the order to put the Euroflag on the computer’s desktop and stick his 10x15 photo on the front doors. It was too lazy to sculpt, and he was lying on the table, from time to time they wanted to buy it from us, thinking that it was a sticker, I offered it for 230 hryvnias, when the Svidomites wondered why it was so expensive, explained that it was time to get used to European prices, and UAH 10 per star and UAH 50 background. I don’t even know if the chef was an ideological Maydan’s leader or simply adapted to the changing world.


                        From the first Molotov cocktails and the first baked cops, everything accumulated over the year after the move was formed into a single whole, I realized that the yellow-cloth rag, pitchfork and whine that are given out as an anthem does not cause irritation, but pity. From "Glory to Ukraine" was sick. The black-and-red Bandera banner reminded of the Nazis, young dwellers coming to our store, collecting money for the Maidan, were sent in plain text to hell.

                        It was then that I finally realized that Ukrainophobe. Yes, I am opposed to the Ukraine in which I have been living for a year, I am opposed to pseudo Ukrainization coming from here, because Galichina is anything but Ukraine. Galicia is an illegally born bastard who, by hook or by crook, is trying to prove to everyone its family. I hope my children will never teach in textbooks that Bandera, Shukhevych, Konovalets and others are all the best that was in Ukraine, that in order to be a patriot we need to ride, and for prosperity we need to bow to the European pan and blame me for all troubles .

                        At work, in my free time, I made anti-Maidan demotivators and hung up on the net, printed small posters and stuck it around the city, got into a fight with the Maydan comrades, wrote anti-Maidan-minded friends about the situation in Lviv, and generally guerrilla.

                        I don’t think it’s worth writing what it was like to communicate with Myrosy, the Maidan hit her brain instantly, any message from our “truthful” media was perceived as a revelation and was taken on faith. She decided everything simply by turning on the woodpecker mode, she did reach the director and on the second of March I was fired ...

                        During the Maidan, and to this day, I have lost many friends and relatives, the Maidan worm hit the brain to such an extent that the people whom I considered friends went away for ideological reasons. The departure of some was predictable, but several people were unpleasantly surprised. This is probably the only positive side of the Maidan - thanks to everyone who has left my life, I now, at least, know for sure who you should not turn your back on.

                        For three weeks I was looking for work. It was difficult, in the sense that I promised myself never to speak “solovy movi”, I had to either give up the principles or sit without work. But everything was decided simply, I found a Russian-language job, here you can get a reprimand for communication in the Ukrainian language, and Russian is required. As the saying goes ... "And the wolves are fed and the sheep are safe." Today is June 9th, in Lviv, silence and grace. There is a civil war in the east of the country, and here the locals live their lives ... rejoice in the burned-out Colorado in Odessa, rejoice in reports about the killed "separatists", rejoice at the new president and still believe that they did everything right and, according to the good old tradition, blame their troubles I ... and personally Putin.
                        Why I wrote it all. Do not judge western Ukraine through the eyes of a tourist. Do not believe the beautiful pictures and statements that Ukraine is united. We are different people, with different histories, different heroes, and I hope with a different future.
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                        Sorry to quote the entire article ...
                      5. Buchki
                        Buchki 30 October 2014 14: 41
                        +4
                        Thanks, this is the best post! An objective view from the inside + historical insight + sketches of the present day. It is a pity that the narrative was cut short in the summer - I wonder if anything has changed in the minds of Lviv residents during this "bloody" period, taking into account the massive call (= dead or crippled lads) from Western Ukraine?
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                      7. Gomel
                        Gomel 30 October 2014 15: 00
                        +5
                        Altona: Sorry to quote the entire article ...

                        YES nothing done right
                        and then the link already hangs here
                      8. VladVlad
                        VladVlad 31 October 2014 10: 16
                        +2
                        Sumptuously! The author has a clear literary talent. It is urgent to write a book and offer it to Moscow publishers.
                      9. Winged 38
                        Winged 38 31 October 2014 13: 31
                        +1
                        I strongly support the placement of this text. The article reflects the inside view of a person who, in his own skin, felt the charms of Lviv life.
                        And, in my opinion, this article is MUCH richer according to the information that is posted on the forum topic.
  48. Bor
    Bor 30 October 2014 15: 05
    +7
    Freestuff cheese is always put in a mousetrap. The EU and the USA fed the Ukrainian pig ...
  49. wanderer
    wanderer 30 October 2014 15: 30
    +5
    And what is most obvious - only one country on this planet needs Ukraine - Russia.
    Russia, by hook or by crook, is pulling Ukraine out of European shit, out of the fascist swamp, but it rests on all extremities .... This is so obvious to a simple person, but ... not to the Ukrainian himself.
    ========== It turns out - a man and a Ukrainian are two completely different concepts. Alas.
    1. Vladimir 686
      Vladimir 686 1 November 2014 12: 49
      0
      I talked with stubborn Ukrainians, this is a wall, a saucepan on the head. Roman AB Strugatskikh "Inhabited Isles". I am beginning to suspect that in the USSR they still installed PBZ towers there and someone captured the center. An adequate person cannot be so blunt.
  50. spd2001
    spd2001 30 October 2014 15: 42
    +2
    Quote: student 12423
    The most expensive human quality is stupidity, because it costs the most

    The Weiner brothers. "The Era of Mercy", V. Sharapov's phrase in the movie "The meeting place cannot be changed", which, by the way, are very suitable for what is happening at the moment in the world and in Ukraine in particular.