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"Truce" in Debaltseve

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In the Donetsk region. there is a town of Debaltseve (or already was), I want to talk about how for this town passed and continues to pass the so-called. "truce". This town (40 thousand in peacetime) was attacked by Ukrainian troops in mid-July and captured. Three days of sitting in basements, mortars, hail, destruction and fires .... But this only turned out to be just the beginning of hell, the tip of the iceberg.



This was followed by verification of documents, execution of the mayor of the city, arrests and a couple of weeks regarding the quiet life of the occupation. Then there was another “cauldron” and it started .... Grads were installed on the main square and Enakievo was fired from them, in response, they began to arrive from the militia. Then ukrovoyaki placed heavy artillery around the perimeter of the city and began to peel in all directions from the city, because were surrounded. And for a week they had nothing for it, because the militia waited for people to leave the city and who could - left, and who could not / did not want - those were between two fires. Shells flew from all sides. dill beat, they fly back in response, dill retreat from the area and beat into the area, and there comes the militia and fired in another area. People live in bomb shelters. People come out in the morning and run home to make porridge, rake debris, and along the way they see wounded Ukrainians flowing in, they are being carried, carried, dragged to the only hospital that survived, there are already an incredible amount of them. Ukrovoyak killed somewhere buried in the city. Killed residents are buried in an abandoned cemetery quickly, until there is no shelling. The shop is open to 12.00, where you can buy sweets, canned goods and expensive liquor for crazy money. And there was a rumor that they give a pension, people on bicycles, on foot, went to the center, to the only working ATM. Waited in line 2,5 hours and the queue did not decrease, shelling began. But nobody moved. Then some ukrokomandir jumped and began to shout so that everyone went to the shelter, but the people were beaten from the roar, but did not leave. The commander pulled out a gun and started firing into the air, demanding that people flee to shelter .... Do not care, people want money to either eat or pay a taxi driver for leaving .... The commander runs off with swearing and lamenting that hospitals are overflowing with soldiers and I will order the fools there not to take the wounded, since you are ....

And now the truce is grace ... no money is needed, because the store no longer opens, and taxi drivers already for 500 hrn. do not agree to leave the city. In the city, people appeared in black balaclava with skulls, they do not talk to anyone, do not obey ukrokandiram, behave like cattle, it is noticeable that they are afraid of ukrovoyaki. They are allowed to shoot small weapons when you want: in dogs, for example .... (they also talk about people). And now people live half-starving in the basement, run home a couple of times to note that the house is residential and can’t be occupied under the disguise of the City, tank, or take a position in it for shelling. The truce killed the most people, destroyed almost every second building, a ghost town .... But it is still full of old people and even children. Kills old people in batches, because they do not have time to run to the shelter. The constant roar and death, fear and despair. And winter is coming ... Ukrovoyaki demand from the local population that they leave, yes, they demand ... Where? Why? How to leave? But they directly warn that today these five streets will be under fire (they warn - it is said loudly, someone said this to one person, and if he is lucky, he can spread it). And it’s true that the tanks were scattering the day from that street, and after a day the militiamen covered this firing point with mortars .... the street was gone. Ukrovoyaki at every step do not forget to recall who destroyed the street or several streets ....
You can not get sick, die from an ulcer or from a cut finger - it is easy.

When will this truce end, people ask. Such a hot truce, they no longer want - there is no place to bury the people ...

These are the last days of the week; this is Debaltsevo — the largest railway hub in the past after the Moscow sorting yard. Now this is a ghost town, a new cauldron, somehow, but civilians, children are cooking in it ...

So, if one day someone from moaning over jamon or even neutral tells you that this is not your war and it will be enough to help the East, drive trucks there, ring everyone the news about this, collecting aid for refugees and so on - remember my retelling of my dad, who described all this to me yesterday and do not listen to them. People are waiting for your help, they need it, their despair is transcendental.
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  1. Paradoxov
    Paradoxov 29 October 2014 08: 54
    +8
    When will this "truce" end?
    You can’t negotiate anything with the junta, only one means! am
    What are the villains doing:
    National Guard methods: force children to spy on militias, threatening to kill parents
    To monitor the positions of the DPR army in the airport area, Ukrainian security officials began to attract teenagers 12-13 years old. The militia stopped one of these guys named Stas the day before. According to the boy, he did not want to work for the intelligence of the National Guard, but there was simply no choice - the parents of the APU soldiers were held hostage.
    ...
    (in full)
    http://lifenews.ru/news/143778
    1. Varyag_1973
      Varyag_1973 29 October 2014 09: 09
      +28
      The "truce" will end very soon. I think so closer to November 2, to the elections in Novorossiya. I never thought I'd say it, but I will!

      Kakly, ukrofashisty, what are you creatures, cattle. Yes, yes, miserable cowardly jackals fighting against the civilian population, not disdainful to pull even the worn one from under him! You are not people, there is not even a definition in Russian for you, unless it is obscene. No you are not our brothers. With all my heart I wish you to die of hunger and cold, so that for every murdered person in the Donbass, for every person burned in Odessa, a curse will be placed on your entire clan up to the fifth knee! Damn Judas!
      1. tolyasik0577
        tolyasik0577 29 October 2014 09: 52
        +8
        Varangian, why are you so sprayed ?. Here everyone knows that. And dill does not visit our forum. Everyone’s soul was already ill. I try not to watch the news, it's hard. the maximum that we can help those who escaped from the Ukrainian regime, and to transfer funds. It remains only to rely on our brilliant politicians and personally on the commander in chief.
        1. Varyag_1973
          Varyag_1973 29 October 2014 09: 57
          +9
          Yes, because from me to Novorossia 50 km and refugees are full, and my soul hurts! In general, I run from the realization that I must, must be there, with thembut, due to circumstances, I can’t, and now I’m mad as I can!
        2. Egoza
          Egoza 29 October 2014 10: 53
          +7
          Quote: tolyasik0577
          It remains only to rely on our brilliant politicians and personally on the commander in chief.

          This is the only hope! For all sorts of organizations and missions ....

          OSCE: ceasefire meeting near Donetsk airport postponed
          The meeting between Ukrainian and Russian members of the Joint Center for the Control and Coordination of Ceasefire dedicated to the armistice in the vicinity of the Donetsk airport is postponed until next week. The exact date is not called. This is stated in the daily report of the OSCE observation mission in Ukraine on October 27, circulated on Tuesday.

          According to Lieutenant General of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Volodymyr Askarov, the meeting was postponed by "unforeseen technical reasons".

          According to OSCE observers, the situation in Donetsk and its environs "remains tense." In the afternoon, the mission "heard intermittent shelling of the northern outskirts of the city where the airport is located."

          The situation in the Luhansk region also remains tense. According to the report, at around 7 am in the direction south-west of Luhansk was fired from a Grad MLRS.
          Source: Tass
          http://versii.com/news/315228/

          Over there! Under fire - the UN Security Council, UN, OSCE - in full force! What would they sing then? Together with EU "leaders" like Merkel!
        3. Cristall
          Cristall 29 October 2014 12: 09
          -7
          Quote: tolyasik0577
          . And dill and do not visit our forum

          many Ukrainians left the forum in protest after the Crimea (and they announced mobilization, they gathered the Kherson group)
          the part that remained mainly supporters of the official line of the Russian Federation.
          I am not a supporter of the RF line. No longer. However, there is no Kiev either. But Ukrainian yes.
          1. ymNIK1970
            ymNIK1970 29 October 2014 13: 10
            +5
            What "Ukrainians" have left? Specifically? Please explain the line: "But Ukrainian yes." Thanks in advance hi
      2. avg
        avg 29 October 2014 10: 12
        +7
        Quote: Varyag_1973
        The "truce" will end very soon. I think so closer to November 2, to the elections in Novorossiya.

        Yes, four days of holidays in Russia and the day of elections in Novorossiya do not allow Ukrainian strategists to sleep peacefully, plus they also have "Mishiko Olimpiyskiy" in their advisers. In addition, it is clearly stated in the mattress manuals that on holidays Russians should eat vodka from samovars and dance with bears. Those. There are plenty of temptations to arrange a big dirty trick these days among the hoz. And yet I hope that Putin convincingly asked Parashenko to sit on the priest evenly and not spoil the holiday for people.
        1. Varyag_1973
          Varyag_1973 29 October 2014 10: 20
          +8
          For avg. Let's not disappoint the CIA. Therefore, in order to lull the vigilance of American intelligence, we go and take moonshine, a samovar, balalaika, earflaps, quilted jackets and bears and pretend that we are walking! Meanwhile, under the guise of a gypsy camp, we are sending reinforcements to the Donbass!
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 29 October 2014 10: 18
      +5
      Fascists must be destroyed, evil must be punished.
  2. SAM 5
    SAM 5 29 October 2014 08: 57
    +8
    When will this truce end

    When they kill and expel all ukrosobak.
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    2. gunya
      gunya 29 October 2014 14: 22
      +2
      "When they kill and drive out all the ukroosogs."

      Do not offend, dear, dogs! They are always loyal to the owner and cannot sell. Find a more objective name!
  3. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 29 October 2014 09: 03
    +7
    In a foggy night among flexible birches, Petro Poroshenko lies without hair, all bloodied without a nose and eyes, this cu side touched the Donbass!
  4. Abbra
    Abbra 29 October 2014 09: 04
    +1
    Ordinary fascism.
  5. Thompson
    Thompson 29 October 2014 09: 07
    +5
    The indecisiveness of Russia, not to mention its neighbors and pseudo-friends in the former USSR, who are afraid of doing something wrong, contrary to the expectations of the West, has spawned a series of republics such as South Ossetia, Transnistria, Abkhazia .... So it spawned slowly smoldering process of uncertainty.
    They would have gathered spirit, recognized them de facto, put everyone before the fact, and immediately everything would have moved to a more solid level both in relation and development of these territories. And then as an eternal question mark, what to do and how to be ...
  6. rpek32
    rpek32 29 October 2014 09: 11
    0
    And then there was a rumor that they were giving a pension, people on bicycles, on foot, went to the center, to the only working ATM. They stood in line for 2,5 hours and the line did not decrease, shelling began. But no one budged.

    actually it looks weird
    1. Abbra
      Abbra 29 October 2014 09: 15
      +9
      What is so strange here? People simply have nothing to eat. They are brought to such an extent that they already lose the instinct of self-preservation. They live in hell, and there are different prices.
  7. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 29 October 2014 09: 16
    +12
    It's time to end this "truce" and drive the Natsiks to Kiev and further - to the end! Their end!
  8. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 29 October 2014 09: 17
    +5
    This is evidence of the insufficiency of the assistance to the militias provided by the Russian Federation. Pacifists love to scare our soldiers with shots in the back, as was the case in Western Ukraine in the 40s and 50s. Such pacifists consider the mass deaths of civilians a lesser evil. I do not think so.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 29 October 2014 11: 46
      +2
      they are not "pacifists", but Russian-speaking State Department officials
  9. Alfizik
    Alfizik 29 October 2014 09: 18
    +9
    When will the "truce" in Debaltseve end? Then, when it starts in Kiev, Odessa, Kharkov, Lvov ...
  10. Stiletto
    Stiletto 29 October 2014 09: 27
    +1
    Quote: Alfizik
    When will the "truce" in Debaltseve end? Then, when it starts in Kiev, Odessa, Kharkov, Lvov ...


    Golden words! hi
  11. 70BSN
    70BSN 29 October 2014 09: 42
    +3
    All hi
    I have a question why the army of NEWS is waiting for something ??

    All agreements have long been violated, and even if the militias do not attack, then do not twist them all fire evenly !!!

    SO is it not easier to go on a good counterattack already ??? !!! soldier
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 29 October 2014 11: 46
      +5
      go into the open field to several times superior enemy and die under the Grad ....
      Wars are now being waged differently. Frontal attack is criminal stupidity
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 29 October 2014 12: 01
        +1
        In terms of personnel - the superiority of the junta is 2 times; in heavy artillery - in three; on tanks - by 5. This is certainly not a dozen times, as was the spring and early summer. But there is no need to speak about a large-scale forced offensive (without a wide uprising in the occupied territories). First you need to squeeze ukrov at least to the administrative borders of the regions ...
    2. DPZ
      DPZ 29 October 2014 17: 25
      0
      I think if dill before the 2nd will not go on the attack, then after the 2nd the militia will go on the attack. rather, the army of New Russia.
  12. Gray 43
    Gray 43 29 October 2014 09: 48
    +2
    This is how people live, live, and here bam! Tanks, explosions, battles, thugs with weapons who are not punished for killing a person "just like that", and the worst thing is that no one knows when everything will end! We are waiting for the liberation of Novorossiya from terrorists who have seized not a house, not an airplane, not a ship, but an entire country and are now trying to convince everyone that lawlessness is normal.
  13. tol100v
    tol100v 29 October 2014 10: 20
    +2
    Quote: Varyag_1973
    I think so closer to November 2

    Wrong before! They don’t have enough patience!
  14. mintai_kot
    mintai_kot 29 October 2014 10: 46
    +4
    I am a resident of Debaltseve and I think Vasilisa’s article is not very competent. Grocery stores work, the delivery rate is good, prices are normal. There are a dozen real problems with banks, one bank is working. In the morning, dill began firing, now they are getting an answer! The militia shot themselves, they shoot quite accurately. What I can not say about Ukrainians periodically beat in the city from the city, before the arrival of television, I think on order! See what the tyroists have done! One of my comrades, who, by naivety, went to the headquarters for the truth, one of the commanders said: you are sick and you should be treated with HARDWARE !!! So they treat ... periodically! And I advise you to visit the city more often before the next article! There are so many inaccuracies!
    1. Mozart
      Mozart 29 October 2014 11: 10
      0
      Such inaccuracies are called propaganda.
    2. Magadan
      Magadan 29 October 2014 11: 44
      +4
      Are you in Debaltseve now and do you have internet there?
      Forgive me, I have become too distrustful ... Well, there, "a native Crimean woman, the daughter of an officer," etc.
      1. mintai_kot
        mintai_kot 29 October 2014 19: 10
        -1
        Why not lie to me! The Internet works, provides a private Internet provider and Ukrtelecom, connected both, due to interruptions. I envy CRIMEA You were needed more than Russia ... In my Donbass, in my opinion, they painted a bullet (who understands the picture) and the lives of RUSSIAN people — inverted maps !!! Being Russian in the Donbass is not very pleasant! Some will not see, others are at stake !!!
  15. Magadan
    Magadan 29 October 2014 11: 43
    0
    I can’t understand, it doesn’t enter my head, how can I go nowhere ?! Are there really nowhere for these people, old people, women, children in Russia to live ?! There is nothing to feed them ?!
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 29 October 2014 12: 07
      0
      Here is an explanation of why they are not leaving:
      < they run home a couple of times to note that the house is residential and it must not be occupied under the disguise of the City, tank, or occupy a position in it for shelling. >
      - guard the apartment.
      And like're coming out, the Wehrmacht first asks for permission - whether or not he can "occupy the premisesdisguised as hail> and other "
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    3. gunya
      gunya 29 October 2014 14: 27
      +1
      Russia still needs to be reached, but advise how!
  16. padded jacket
    padded jacket 29 October 2014 11: 56
    0
    Remember Givi asked Zhirinovsky for help in the form of Tigr cars or at least a Niva for taking out the wounded. Zhirinovsky answered, only somehow "liquid". But at least this:
  17. padded jacket
    padded jacket 29 October 2014 11: 58
    0
    Militia attack in Nikishino:
  18. padded jacket
    padded jacket 29 October 2014 12: 02
    0
    Donetsk fight of DNR militia and Ukrainian security forces for the airport:
  19. Cristall
    Cristall 29 October 2014 12: 13
    -5
    staged somehow - on camera.
    and again "for the airport"
    Moreover, the airport is visible, and the "militias" themselves are in the house at a distance from it.
    Hmm ... everyone loves the info war ... and everyone screams anything. But the militias do not control the airport at all, judging by this video.
    1. ispaniard
      ispaniard 29 October 2014 14: 03
      +2
      Have you seen a report from 1 + 1 that the valiant "Coffins" from the Armed Forces of Ukraine control the Airport? And why are you so worried about the disposition of the militia, you are with us -"NEUTRAL"...

      P.S. Krystal you are just like "Elusive Joe" put aside the comment and dump, I begin to observe in you a thin troll ...
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  20. Prager
    Prager 29 October 2014 14: 55
    0
    The article was depressing. Yes, and where does optimism come from?
  21. padded jacket
    padded jacket 29 October 2014 14: 57
    0
    In my opinion it was not yet:
    Checkpoint No. 32, Smelye village:
  22. padded jacket
    padded jacket 29 October 2014 15: 13
    +1
    Ukrainian soldier from checkpoint 32 - the militia pulled up two "Grads" and a bunch of tanks and said "If you don't leave now, we will destroy you"
    And the militia gave us water and cigarettes:
  23. captain
    captain 29 October 2014 17: 40
    0
    We in vain stopped the militia attack so early, we had to get to Kherson in the South, we hoped for the lifting of the sanctions, but they were not canceled and we didn’t give money for gas, and they also required to give Crimea. It is time to open a new military organization and organize the headquarters of the partisan movement in New Russia, under the leadership of Kvachkov.
    1. 97110
      97110 30 October 2014 17: 39
      0
      Quote: captain
      We are in vain

      You need to be more modest. Permanently on behalf of Russia, or on behalf of GDP, the gentlemen of the conference speak. Let us take it personally. We do not agree that both of them have made some sort of decision. Or approve of their decision. Or is it really you
      Quote: captain
      stopped the militia attack so early, we had to get to Kherson in the South, we hoped for the lifting of sanctions
      ?
    2. 97110
      97110 30 October 2014 17: 39
      0
      Quote: captain
      We are in vain

      You need to be more modest. Permanently on behalf of Russia, or on behalf of GDP, the gentlemen of the conference speak. Let us take it personally. We do not agree that both of them have made some sort of decision. Or approve of their decision. Or is it really you
      Quote: captain
      stopped the militia attack so early, we had to get to Kherson in the South, we hoped for the lifting of sanctions
      ?
  24. Kovlad
    Kovlad 29 October 2014 17: 51
    +1
    Varyag_1973 (1) SU Today, 09:57 ↑ New
    Yes, because from me to Novorossia 50 km and refugees are full, and my soul hurts! In general, I am in a rage from the realization that I should be obliged to be there with them, but due to circumstances I can’t, so I am in a rage as I can!


    Not one such, too many chains attached.