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Elections in the Donbas, appointed by Kiev, contradict the Minsk agreements

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Newspaper Kommersant published data from its sources, from which it follows that the closed part of the Minsk agreements provided for the timing of elections in the territories controlled by the militias. At the same time, the elections in the DPR of November 2 fall within the given framework, while the December 7 announced by Kiev are not. At the same time, the Prime Minister of the Donetsk People's Republic, Alexander Zakharchenko, denies the presence of hidden points.

Elections in the Donbas, appointed by Kiev, contradict the Minsk agreements


The source of the publication in the Russian state structures said that the approximate date of the elections was fixed in September by negotiating groups from both sides of the conflict.

“In the unpublished annex to the Minsk agreements, an interval was fixed in which the local elections in Donbass should pass. November 2 falls into this interval, and December 7 no longer. In Kiev, they are well aware of this, ”RIA quotes him. "News".

The source also stressed that the document stipulates that the elections will be held "in coordination with the Ukrainian law", but this wording does not imply the unconditional execution of all its points.

The fact that such agreements really existed, however, only orally, also said the sources of the newspaper surrounded by the President of Ukraine.

“Negotiators did not fix everything on paper, much had to operate within the framework of oral agreements,” one of them noted.

In turn, Zakharchenko said that "there was no secret part of the Minsk agreements."

“The fact that the possible dates for the elections were stipulated is all nonsense,” he stressed.
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  1. Samaritan
    Samaritan 29 October 2014 06: 18
    +3
    Who would doubt that?! It’s not at all clear why someone is listening to the rad, these clowns from a burnt circus ???
    1. mirag2
      mirag2 29 October 2014 06: 22
      +6
      The headline caught my eye, not only the elections, but also a lot that makes the Ukrainian leadership contrary to the Minsk agreements.
      1. Mol
        Mol 29 October 2014 20: 19
        +1
        Quote: mirag2
        much that makes the Ukrainian leadership contrary to the Minsk agreements.


        Every day listening to reports about how Bandera's supporters continue to shell settlements in the Donbass, how civilians continue to die, the question in my head more and more often sounds: "Do not all the Minsk agreements contradict our common sense ?!" request
      2. Prager
        Prager 30 October 2014 15: 14
        0
        I fully support your comment to the last word! am
    2. Mahmut
      Mahmut 29 October 2014 07: 08
      +2
      The hint is clear. If the elections are declared to be contrary to the Minsk agreements, then holding them would seem to mean a ceasefire due to the fault of the DPR.
  2. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 29 October 2014 06: 22
    +4
    Nonsense! Believe Kiev today, do not respect yourself.
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 29 October 2014 06: 26
      +4
      Vooot, and about this .... you need to watch the video

      In Lviv, Bandera burn the US flag
  3. PWG
    PWG 29 October 2014 06: 24
    -3
    It is likely that after the elections to the DLNR we will recognize them, which means that the civil war will continue. BUT ... Since Russia will not enter its troops, the so-called Ukraine will for many years become the Russian-American testing ground for new weapons, as it once was in Vietnam. But everything will end only when the entire left bank is Novorossiysk!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 29 October 2014 06: 30
      +3
      Quote: PWG
      then the so-called Ukraine for many years will become a Russian-American testing ground for new weapons, to

      In order for Ukraine to become a training ground, the United States must get involved in a warrior. Do not write nonsense.
  4. shishakova
    shishakova 29 October 2014 06: 26
    +3
    Sounds like foggy diplomacy. It is unlikely that anyone doubts that Novorossia is already an independent republic.
    1. Cristall
      Cristall 29 October 2014 11: 19
      +1
      Quote: shishakova
      . It is unlikely that anyone doubts that Novorossia is already an independent republic

      I for example. I doubt it. Yes, I am sure that this is not so.
      1. Mol
        Mol 29 October 2014 20: 33
        +1
        Quote: Cristall
        Yes, I am sure that this is not so.


        However ... And I was sure that you are a female person ... I notice on VO already the second commentator, with a "female" avatar and nickname, writing like a man! I hope this is not a tribute to new European values ​​?! laughing (No offense)
  5. RusDV
    RusDV 29 October 2014 06: 31
    +6
    Elections in the Donbas, appointed by Kiev, contradict the Minsk agreements

    But they correspond to the collusion of the junta with the CIA officers in charge of the "project." Mattress makers want to get "the legitimacy of the elections of the WHOLE Ukraine" in order to assert the lack of legitimacy of any elections in the LPR, DPR. The enemy cannot be underestimated. This is an indisputable fact. But in the case of mattress toppers .... - blooper by blooper, jamb by jamb, and they are done wherever they can .... I don’t know what to think ... either such a cunning multi-move with the sacrifice of thousands of pawns, or a collective brain I gave up the world behind the scenes ... to insanity ...
  6. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 29 October 2014 06: 32
    +3
    The europ.p.n.s.d.s.I. got hysterical - the country of New Russia crushed the corn!

    ... America, opu move out of your mind! And then you will turn into a complete callus!
  7. Lukich
    Lukich 29 October 2014 06: 39
    +4
    Yes, the entire policy of the junta is a complete violation of all agreements. they violated ALL the contracts they signed.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 October 2014 06: 41
    +2
    Everything that the DNI will do and the LC will not be recognized by U. Kropia is clear to everyone. And the laws of ukraine will not apply in these republics. Therefore, the war is for a long time, because U. Kropia, even if she suffers another devastating defeat (and she suffers it) will not calm down.
  9. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 29 October 2014 06: 53
    +2
    Yeah, humanitarian convoys from Russia "violate the UN Charter," and Don Petro called them "Russian intervention" in general, which proves once again: the task of the ukrovlast is to destroy the population, only land is needed.
  10. bytkeev
    bytkeev 29 October 2014 07: 00
    +3
    America threatens new sanctions if we recognize the election. But these sanctions will no longer scare anyone. On the contrary, if we want to show America OUR choice, we must do as conscience tells
  11. Zomanus
    Zomanus 29 October 2014 07: 14
    +1
    Arrangements to exist and be observed can only be equal in strength and capabilities. And the ruin then considers itself a part of Europe and America. Like she is so awesomely important and valuable that the whole world helps her. Accordingly, it sees no reason to abide by the agreements signed with bugs and other subhuman. Russia did not openly take Novorossia’s arm ...
  12. pascal309
    pascal309 29 October 2014 07: 42
    -1
    Lavrov said that Russia will recognize the election, which means New Russia. I think that says it all.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 29 October 2014 08: 08
      0
      Lavrov said about the Kiev elections.
    2. Mol
      Mol 29 October 2014 20: 08
      0
      Quote: pascal309
      Lavrov said that Russia will recognize the election, which means New Russia. I think that says it all.


      And I would not be so categorical! Russia recognizes the elections, but de jure this does not mean that it recognizes the independence of the republics! In my opinion, this is another "cunning" move of Moscow called: "both ours and yours!" Therefore, the Kremlin recognizes the elections to the Rada. Too much is not clear with these Minsk agreements, it is not for nothing that rumors are circulating about some closed part of the agreements, in which it is not known what is spelled out! This information also makes one think: "The source also stressed that the document stipulates that the elections will be held" in coordination with Ukrainian law "..." I recommend that you read the following article: http://3mv.ru/publ/priznanie_novorossii/3 -1-0-32623
      Here is an excerpt from it: “How can the prime ministers of the DPR and LPR be recognized if these entities themselves are still not recognized by Russia?
      Is this paradox a consequence of the ill-conceived actions of the Russian leadership or part of a subtle political game? Will recognition of the November elections help legitimize New Russia itself?
      “In general, the Russian leadership continues the course that our politicians announced back in the spring - we need a neutral, federal Ukraine,” says Mikhail Alexandrov, a leading expert at the Center for Military-Political Research at MGIMO. - This line continues, although it is clear that it does not bring noticeable success. Attempts to keep Ukraine at the expense of the uncertain status of the LPR and DPR, in my opinion, will not lead to anything.
      As for the elections in the DPR and LPR, formally - this is part of the Minsk agreements. We are not taking any anti-Ukrainian actions here. Another thing is that the Ukrainian side wanted the elections in Donbass to be held in sync with the elections in the rest of Ukraine.
      Apparently, there was still a Russian-Ukrainian plan, according to which Poroshenko was going to consolidate power in his hands and find some kind of compromise on the federal structure of Ukraine. Although the elections to the Verkhovna Rada shook him, this plan still has a chance for implementation.
  13. Funnels
    Funnels 29 October 2014 08: 18
    +3
    Quote: Belarus
    Vooot, and about this .... you need to watch the video

    In Lviv, Bandera burn the US flag

    Oh, they’ve completely lost their fear. Psaki interestingly saw or not, and how would she comment.
  14. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 29 October 2014 09: 27
    0
    Elections will be recognized.
  15. Cristall
    Cristall 29 October 2014 11: 22
    -1
    we are talking about some moments. Since the information war puts everything upside down, why do such articles?
    Is there a status of these territories within Ukraine? Yes, there are some agreements too (although of course the war did not stop)
    In general, this is an internal Ukrainian business. The Ukrainians on the other side of the Donbass and on this side of the Donbass and Ukraine should solve this.