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Russia and the DPRK: the project "Victory"

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Russia plans to invest in the transport infrastructure of the DPRK 25 billion dollars. This was stated by Alexander Galushka, the Russian Minister for the Development of the Far East. “This is a significant investment project for any country in the world,” he noted. True, other experts do not want to believe in a Russian-Korean project of this magnitude.



According to a recent report by the Ministry of East Development, a group of Russian companies are planning to modernize the railways in the DPRK. The estimated project cost is 25 billion dollars.

As October 21 relayed TASS, Minister of the Russian Federation for the Development of the Far East Alexander Galushka spoke in Pyongyang at the ceremony dedicated to the new project “Victory”. “This is a significant investment project for any country in the world,” Galushka stressed.

According to him, the project of modernization of the DPRK railways is “a worthy continuation of positive trends in Russian-Korean cooperation, allowing to solve many problems that hindered the development of bilateral trade and economic relations.”

As for Russian companies, the Victory project for them is “a practical example of the implementation of a new model of trade and economic cooperation with the DPRK, involving the provision of investment in exchange for access to the natural resources of the DPRK.”

The bottom line is this: for North Korea, the project will provide for the reconstruction and modernization of the transport infrastructure, the restoration and modernization of the mining industry.

The Russian minister also noted that the project is “a real move towards reaching a bilateral agreement to increase the volume of trade between Russia and the DPRK to 1 billion dollars in the near future.”

Oleg Shishov, the general director of the Russian research and production association Mostovik, said that the NGO, together with the DPRK government, had developed a plan for the reconstruction of railways with a total length of 3,5 thousand km. The network of reconstructed railways was divided into ten sections. The design of the first section, Pyongyang East Nodal Station, is already underway.

22 October RIA News" reported that, according to the Ministry of Eastern Development, in accordance with the signed agreement “during 20 years 3,5 will be reconstructed thousands of kilometers of the upper structure of the track, as well as tunnels, bridges and station tracks. The expenses of Russian organizations will be covered by the supply of coal, rare earth and non-ferrous metals and other resources from the DPRK. ”

On Tuesday last week, the ceremony of laying the “golden link” for the reconstruction of the DPRK railways took place at the Pyongyang East Railway Station. The ceremony was attended by the co-chairs of the Russian-Korean intergovernmental commission on trade, economic and scientific and technical cooperation Alexander Galushka and the Minister of Foreign Economic Relations of the DPRK Li Rehn.

"Russian newspaper" referring to the website of the Ministry of Development and Development clarifies one important detail: Russia and the DPRK began to carry out calculations in rubles. And the operations are carried out just “within the framework of the implementation of agreements reached at the 6 meeting of the Intergovernmental Commission on Trade, Economic, Scientific and Technical Cooperation between the Russian Federation and the DPRK under the leadership of the Minister of the Russian Federation for the Development of the Far East, Alexander Galushka.”

According to the information, a contractual base has already been created for the transition to ruble settlements between Russian and North Korean organizations: agreements have been signed between the Regional Development Bank, the Bank of Foreign Trade of the DPRK and the Korean Bank for Development Development. The first calculations in rubles have already gone.

В Gazeta.ru material appeared under the chilling title: "There is no such project and there will not be." Experts refuse to believe that such projects can exist in nature, the newspaper writes.

If we take the Russian standards and the state of the Russian railways, then this amount “looks too high,” Denis Ilatovsky, Logistics Director of SUEK, told the newspaper.

“Such a project does not exist and cannot exist,” said Alexey Bezborodov, General Director of the InfraNews research agency. "This is a common, non-binding declaration, and there is not and will not be any project."

The publication further notes that 25 billion dollars for the DPRK is an astronomical sum. According to the Central Bank of South Korea, in nominal terms in 2013, the DPRK's GDP reached 33,3 billion.

Finally, Mostovik, a contractor at government construction sites for the APEC 2012 Summit in Vladivostok and for the Olympics in Sochi, is in the process of bankruptcy due to billions of dollars in losses. The value of an organization’s assets is less than its debts 9 times, the publication reminds.

The newspaper also reports that in 2013, the trade turnover of Russia and the DPRK amounted to just 112 million, and in the spring of Moscow Moscow forgave Pyongyang almost the entire national debt - more than 10 billion.

Thus, the monetary component of the project, despite the calculations in rubles, is unlikely to be high. Of interest is something else: after all, it was initially stated that the transaction was almost barter. Roads in exchange for resources.

We quote once again the Ministry of Eastern Development: “The expenses of Russian organizations will be covered by supplies of coal, rare earth and non-ferrous metals, and other resources from the DPRK.”

Therefore, categorical statements by experts who deny the very possibility of major economic cooperation with the DPRK appear premature.

Regarding the latter News on this subject then October 24th TASS reported that the delegation of Russian businessmen headed by Alexander Galushka completed a five-day working visit to the DPRK. The project has started.

“The implementation of a commercial modernization transaction by Russian DPRK railway companies in exchange for North Korean mineral resources has been launched,” the Russian minister said in a speech.

TASS indicates that the delegation visited the Kaesong industrial complex, a zone of economic development in the city of Chondin.

Ildar Neverov, director of InMet, working in the metal-roll market, held talks with potential partners. “We found many topics for discussion,” he told TASS.

According to him, in the DPRK "ferrous metallurgy is developing quite dynamically." And Korean enterprises need raw materials for the production of high-quality steel. “Our company, which has such raw materials in Vladivostok and Nakhodka, would be interested to develop with Korean partners a scheme for barter or in the framework of the usual commercial cooperation in terms of supplying raw materials to metallurgical enterprises of the DPRK,” said Neverov.

Nikolai Kim, Vice President of the World Organization of Korean Businessmen, suggested that North Korean partners consider a project to build a food processing plant in the Kaesong industrial zone. “I am pleased with the outcome of the negotiations,” he told TASS.

Thus, the pessimism of experts who doubt the development of cooperation between the two countries on the basis of barter schemes is deprived of weighty arguments. Moreover, the DPRK is another step towards strengthening the national Russian currency in the world. Let even a small step.

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  1. Cosmos1987
    Cosmos1987 28 October 2014 07: 01
    +25
    25. Build houses with this money and give the apartments to hard workers at zero interest, build farms, put in greenhouses and there will be much more benefit. IMHO.
    1. VOLKHOV
      VOLKHOV 28 October 2014 07: 06
      -2
      Volkhov RU October 0, 25 2014:13 | On the reform of applied military science. “We lost what to do to us!”
      It is possible to reform what exists, but applied military science as an integral system with logic and development plans was not and is not - science should not be confused with individual works on tactics or weapons.
      For example, now in the conditions of conflict, a runway was built on about. Kotelnoy is a complete analogue of the construction of border airfields of 41 g. If there was science, it would tell us that it is strange to build an airfield in the area of ​​the enemy’s domination - at any moment he will take it to himself, and personnel in containers on legs will blow off the wave or sterilize with radiation - on them a choice. That is, this construction site is a unique example of advance repair.
      Another example - as part of the preparations for the war with the DPRK, they undertook to repair for free (for imaginary access to resources) 3500 km of railway tracks (Pobeda Corporation) - the Koreans do not mind, because they are fairly sure that the rails will remain for them, and they will not let anyone into their territory. Railway was also built in front of the Second World War in the West, as it turned out to the Germans, the partisans then blew up these rails for three years.
      The readiness for war is also determined by the sustainability of the economy, and if military science had existed, it would have discovered that modern engineering of the housing and communal services, industry, and agriculture was completely dependent on the supply of spare parts from afar and could not be repaired without simultaneous supplies of fuel, energy and spare parts. And the boiler room of the 50s could work in the presence of any fuel (coal, fuel oil, firewood) and be repaired by local workers.
      Therefore, it is necessary not to reform, but to create, having previously removed all active "military scientists" to the level of consultants in their specialty as having no logic and no conscience.

      This is for the sake of war, and its customers are several levels higher than the Russian government.
      1. MolGro
        MolGro 28 October 2014 07: 20
        +3
        rave!! and full !!
        Zadolbil liberals who imagine themselves patriots !!
        1. VOLKHOV
          VOLKHOV 28 October 2014 07: 50
          -10
          You are a slogan generator and a discussion with you is impossible, but sane people understand that there is no excess of resources in the DPRK, especially coal, this is not Australia, which supplies it to Ukraine at 89 dollars / ton. Come to the fleet, you can immediately go to Virtual - in December, the anniversary of major events.
          1. MolGro
            MolGro 28 October 2014 08: 16
            +9
            I like to say the obvious)
            But delirium is no nonsense!
            This is truly a bargain!
            And it's not even about valuable rare earths and resources.
            (note the deal is not in dollars, but in resources - which is very significant)
            The transport system itself will be sharpened as we need. And given the modernization of Bam and Transib.
            As a result, we will get a railway pool in Asia that is powerful enough to provide Asian-European trade.
            If you carefully understand the deal, it becomes clear that the basic materials for the construction will be purchased from us - this is also not a frail plus to the economy !!

            I was openly amused by your attempts on the runway on Fr. Boiler room. To capture the bridgehead on this island you need to have enough ice class ships! And the united American colonies do not have such ships and do not have plans! You will say that it is possible to land an assault) it is possible if it still flies!
            So it turns out nonsense!
            So drink pills and take it easy!

            Of course, you can listen to you and destroy new Arctic bases and don’t build a fig overseas, this is so patriotic)
            1. IIIIvanov
              IIIIvanov 28 October 2014 13: 40
              +6
              That's right, I support, we get access to the warm sea that does not freeze all year round.
              We are completing what we started at the end of the 18th century, and what we had to leave as a result of the loss in the Russo-Japanese war. Although everyone already knows that we fought then not against Japan, but against the coalition from the United States Army-Britain-Japan.
              And the DPRK receives transit and money for transit, which means a lot of fuel for their economy.
              Yours faithfully,
              IIIIvanov
              1. commbatant
                commbatant 3 November 2014 01: 14
                0
                Sounds like the truth ...
                the main thing is to turn on the dumb and not scared empirialists
              2. The comment was deleted.
            2. g1v2
              g1v2 29 October 2014 14: 50
              0
              It’s already clear that Asia is becoming the locomotive of the 21st century - there are more than half the world's population, sales markets, concentration of production, financial centers. Against the backdrop of problems in the United States and the EU, the growth of China, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan and less Japan is obvious. Therefore, the GDP intends to seriously wedge itself into it as long as it is possible. This project is the gateway to South Korea and access to its markets. The alliance with the PRC and large-scale contracts with it, the strengthening of our positions in the DPRK, projects with South Korea - all this strengthens our positions in the Asia-Pacific region. I think that there will also be commodity and transport contracts, and possibly arms. The Americans will not let us into Japan, nor will they come to Taiwan, but there will still be enough gates to Southeast Asia. Plus India and Indochina. I think that in the near future the rise of our Far East and attempts to connect it to the South Asian markets will begin. Highways and gas liquefaction plants, pipelines to Asia and the expansion of port capabilities, as well as the development of the northern sea route. In addition, I think I will not be mistaken if I assume that a significant part of the refugees from Ukraine will be sent there. In general, the rise of our Far East begins, but in order to protect our interests in that direction, we will strengthen the BBO and Pacific Fleet.
              1. commbatant
                commbatant 3 November 2014 01: 17
                0
                create forward-based military bases in Vietnam and North Korea ...
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            3. volgro
              volgro 3 November 2014 21: 53
              -1
              You say the matter, comrade. good
        2. predator.3
          predator.3 28 October 2014 07: 53
          +7
          25 billion?! And what is the benefit of this from Russia? maybe we’ll better build roads, normal roads! request fool
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 28 October 2014 12: 55
            +2
            Quote: predator.3
            maybe we’ll better build roads, normal roads!

            Yes, we are building, for example, the Central Ring Road. Well, why the hell is she needed, I ask you? It goes along the A107 and will be paid, well, make a normal A107, so that without moving. So no, they’ll let me go in parallel, and for the money. This kind of construction is not necessary, otherwise we do not know how. Maybe even the Korean Communists will teach us what?
          2. Wheel
            Wheel 28 October 2014 13: 10
            0
            Quote: predator.3
            25 billion?! And what is the benefit of this from Russia? maybe we’ll better build roads, normal roads! request fool

            Russia doesn’t, and oil and gas traders have the prospect of running oil and gas pipelines through the territory of the DPRK to South Korea and further to Japan.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 28 October 2014 07: 48
        +11
        Quote: V0LHOV
        This is for the sake of war, and its customers are several levels higher than the Russian government.

        Volkhov, again you, again mushrooms. How many times I told you, go to vodka.
    2. Siberian German
      Siberian German 28 October 2014 07: 54
      +3
      I agree one hundred percent - yes, it is possible to modernize roads in the DPRK, but where are the prices coming from? Did you collapse from the oak or something? They have people living there for $ 1 a day - they get 15-20 thousand on our piece of iron - but they don’t the fact that they get half as well - where did such prices come from - how many had already planned to poke into their pockets
      1. MolGro
        MolGro 28 October 2014 08: 03
        0
        "20 thousand kilometers of track superstructure, as well as tunnels, bridges and station tracks will be reconstructed within 3,5 years. The expenses of Russian organizations will be covered by supplies of coal, rare earth and non-ferrous metals and other resources from the DPRK."
        Given the growing scarcity of rare earth metals, the deal is very profitable)
        And taking into account the project of a new bam and transib.
        The result is not a bad unified transport system from Asia to Europe!
        1. Wheel
          Wheel 28 October 2014 13: 03
          0
          Quote: MolGro
          Given the growing scarcity of rare earth metals, the deal is very profitable)

          It's funny, but after the collapse of the USSR, its own rare-earth metal industry was launched under a bulldozer.
        2. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 28 October 2014 16: 32
          0
          Quote: MolGro
          Given the growing scarcity of rare earth metals

          Specify which metals are mined in North Korea, which are not found in Siberia. I think everything is much simpler. The main wealth of Korea is cheap labor, which will build the Bam and the Trans-Siberian Railway as part of labor teams.
          They wrote like in the 90s how they are logging, naturally they are sent on a business trip to the camps. There is its own security and all that
    3. max702
      max702 28 October 2014 10: 48
      +2
      Quote: Cosmos1987
      25. Build houses with this money and give the apartments to hard workers at zero interest, build farms, put in greenhouses and there will be much more benefit. IMHO.

      The budget of Russia in 2014 was made up with a surplus of 1 trillion rubles !! MONEY in the country FALL UP! There really is money for absolutely everything! But the trouble is, if all of them are invested in the Russian economy (factories, infrastructure, education, medicine, CX, and so on), then the breakthrough in the country will be colossal and will resemble growth during the Stalin five-year plans. This is exactly what the agents of the world cannot allow capital that we have on finances and other systemically important branches of government, it is absolutely not permissible for them and their owners, now the economies of the world capital countries have led to deadlocks as a result of the fundamental shortcomings of their development model, and there’s nowhere to take forces and resources from (all to planet earth has already been cleaned up) And the strengthening in such a situation of the main geopolitical rival of death is like that! So we don’t see any real things in our country, so light movements so that we do not die of hunger, but we couldn’t even get on our feet ..
      1. Pilat2009
        Pilat2009 28 October 2014 20: 07
        0
        Quote: max702
        MONEY in the country FALL UP!

        Yes, they always collapsed because you can print at any time. In Ukraine there’s enough. Inflation and the dollar exchange rate are growing, regardless of the money supply. This is the idea of ​​fixing our Gaidar’s and liberals to limit the money supply and save on everything. that pensioners will increase their retirement will buy more goods and give an impetus to the economy. And the excess money in any case lies in Sberbank
    4. edge
      edge 28 October 2014 14: 37
      0
      Quote: Cosmos1987
      25. Build houses with this money and give the apartments to hard workers at zero interest, build farms, put in greenhouses and there will be much more benefit.

      Well, well, you’re our strategist .... North Korea, in addition to the resource base, has ports where you can deploy some of the forces of the Navy + human resources (a well-trained army, it’s easy to saturate it with modern weapons, and a little to prepare personnel for work .... .)
    5. Jovanny
      Jovanny 28 October 2014 14: 42
      0
      Gee) everything is correct. Turkey has a lot of fields under the greenhouses.
      And the birth rate will rise. young boys and girls cannot solve the housing problem because of this and social tensions.
    6. Evgeniy.
      Evgeniy. 28 October 2014 18: 14
      0
      Hard workers will earn on these projects. This is not about 25 yards, this is the output of products by our hard workers in our factories
  2. shishakova
    shishakova 28 October 2014 07: 03
    +5
    Thanks, Author!
    Mutually beneficial business relations between the countries can gradually supplant aggression and war in the world.
    1. northern
      northern 28 October 2014 17: 29
      +1
      The first correct answer to the question "why all this is needed", bravo.
      The economic strengthening of North Korea will greatly pacify its military ambitions for South. And peace is the influence in the region and trade, which is actually necessary.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 28 October 2014 07: 10
    +2
    Therefore, categorical statements by experts who deny the very possibility of major economic cooperation with the DPRK appear premature.

    There is discord for an expert, and on our website such experts come across silly predictions that you can only sympathize with ward No. 6 in the insane asylum clinic.

    Now the world of the Internet allows you to make a general picture of the analysis (not small details requiring the confirmation of official documents from the chipboard and top secret, etc.).

    Cooperation with the DPRK is necessary despite the wayward SUNNY COMRADE IN THE DPRK.

    and Moscow in the spring forgiven Pyongyang for almost the entire public debt - more than $ 10 billion.

    this can not be done in any case .... things like a drug only drag addict.



    I condemn such actions ... just stupid.
    1. Evil Pole
      Evil Pole 28 October 2014 07: 31
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I condemn such actions ... just stupid.

      Really stupid. And here is another article:
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      The publication further notes that $ 25 billion for the DPRK is an astronomical sum.

      Og laughing And 200 billion greenery swelled into hohland. No nyyon so .. So that Mr. Bezborodov better to investigate that the thread is different ..
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 28 October 2014 07: 50
      0
      Quote: The same LYOKHA

      I condemn such actions ... just stupid.

      Well, we won’t forgive them 10 billion, to the point. When they froze the accounts of North Korea, they froze as many as 25 million bucks. The sun-like one was terrified. What to take from a starving man request
  4. bmv04636
    bmv04636 28 October 2014 07: 31
    +1
    This is the first step towards the construction of a trans Korean gas pipeline. Which I hope will help unite the two Koreas, but not under the banner of the "light elves". Although both the "light elves" and Japan and China really, really do not want such a strong player in the Asia-Pacific region as the united Korea, which is not politically and economically dependent militarily from any political center.
  5. corporal
    corporal 28 October 2014 08: 01
    0
    Why push money into this armed concentration camp? Better housing for their soldiers, police, etc. cost am
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 28 October 2014 08: 17
      +1
      This "armed concentration camp" was created in the image and likeness of the USSR and all his life was our ally and partner, and most importantly a country that did not bend under the States. I see no reason not to help him now.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 October 2014 09: 16
      +1
      This money is more than enough for housing and for the development of our mechanical engineering, at the current rate it is a trillion rubles.
    3. pavel_SPB
      pavel_SPB 28 October 2014 13: 31
      0
      the government is not profitable ....
  6. pinecone
    pinecone 28 October 2014 08: 12
    +3
    The government of the Russian Federation complain about difficulties with the state budget, a lack of foreign investment, etc., but it turns out that the chickens are not pecking money.
  7. Hagalaz
    Hagalaz 28 October 2014 08: 53
    +2
    This ally is really specific. But so what? The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Properly use the allied potential, taking into account local specifics, and not arrogantly bully nose. It's not about 25 lard doughs, let it be less, the main thing is that the process goes on.
  8. anip
    anip 28 October 2014 08: 54
    +8
    So-so.
    Back in February of this year, the DPRK wrote off debt at 9,87 billion dollars.
    Kimam forgiven debt http://www.gazeta.ru/business/2014/02/19/5916573.shtml
    From there:
    “The amounts allocated to the debt of North Korea were absolutely“ dead ”, they would never have been returned to us. Therefore, it’s easier to write them off and get political benefits, ”says Professor Aleksey Maslov, head of the department of oriental studies at the Higher School of Economics, to Gazeta.ru.

    It turns out that they wrote off the DPRK debt, because there is nothing to give it back to. And right there they enter into the DPRK 25 billion dollars, which they will write off again in 10 years, because there will be nothing to give it to. Strange, isn't it? Borrow money to the neighbor, the neighbor did not give it away, and then borrow more money for him, because he will need to modernize the kitchen. Tryndez full. theater of the absurd.
    And what political benefit can we talk about here? Yes, the DPRK already any cooperation on mutually beneficial conditions will be for happiness and will be a political benefit for the Russian Federation.
    But in the literal sense, their people owe 5-10 kopecks on taxes or loans, so they will drag them on the courts, they will shake out their souls, they will shake out these kopeks and even thousands of fines. But ordinary people, who had difficulty accumulating an initial installment for a mortgage, will then pay this mortgage by tightening their belts, but they will finally receive their apartment in 10-15 years at a price of two. Fine, what.
    1. Gagauz
      Gagauz 28 October 2014 13: 37
      +1
      I think this is a soft exit to South Korea, and this is already a huge market for Russia, and the direct railway route to our standards there is charming. It turns out you are reconstructing the road, and not the yellow-faced brothers
      1. Walking
        Walking 28 October 2014 14: 40
        +1
        Quote: Gagauz
        I think this is a soft exit to South Korea, and this is already a huge market for Russia, and the direct railway route to our standards there is charming. It turns out you are reconstructing the road, and not the yellow-faced brothers


        This exit is not just to South Korea, but to all of Asia. Ship companies can’t cope with cargo transportation, they are building super container ships and the railway from Korea to Europe will relieve this direction and costs will decrease and Russia will receive for transit.
        1. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 29 October 2014 19: 00
          0
          Quote: Hiking
          and the railway from Korea to Europe will relieve this direction

          Yeah, to carry goods across the border of the warring countries ... Isn't it easier via China?
  9. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 28 October 2014 08: 57
    +2
    In 20 years "either the shah or the donkey will die."
    And the word barter itself causes some unpleasant sensation. If such money is invested in our economy, then no barter will be needed. We ourselves have everything. Plus jobs. And everything will remain with us, and not over the hill.
    Over 20 years, a lot of things can change on the Korean peninsula and in the world.
    We will invest not in ourselves, but in the "friendly people" from which there will be nothing to take. Or again, let's forgive (give), they are our "brothers".
  10. iiggi
    iiggi 28 October 2014 09: 12
    +4
    Yes, in 2016 they want to cut the budget due to the financial crisis and the imposed sanctions, and the DPRK has forgiven $ 10 billion, what trifles. And this project, apparently, that would once again "warm up" hands, 2/3 will settle in the pockets of officials, they will build something for the rest, and in a couple of years this debt will be forgiven, as always, everyone will be happy, especially pensioners watch the happy Koreans ride the trains at their expense. But the Koreans will be able to partially return the money invested with rat meat, again all the best to pensioners.
  11. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 28 October 2014 09: 16
    +2
    It’s like moving the hands for an hour! Medvedev said that poor people do not cows milk economies of resources all for the good of the people. But it turned out that the people of the cow didn’t care and not who didn’t want to save resources but simply freed the email. sell energy for export !!! The roads themselves have no!
  12. Starover_Z
    Starover_Z 28 October 2014 09: 42
    +1
    Quote: valentina-makanalina
    We will invest not in ourselves, but in the "friendly people" from which there will be nothing to take.

    That's for sure! You need to make beautiful gestures, against the background of foreign sanctions, tightening the screws on your own social network.
    But you just can't "invest" in the development of your Far East ?! Housing, roads, production for your people?
    1. Evgeniy.
      Evgeniy. 28 October 2014 18: 17
      0
      Where did you tighten the nuts7
  13. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 28 October 2014 10: 07
    0
    I don’t understand something, do we have 25 extra yards? Or are our roads everywhere wonderful in Russia? If they throw money like this when they themselves aren’t doing it right, then the revolution is just around the corner.
  14. Nayhas
    Nayhas 28 October 2014 10: 20
    +1
    Yeah, driving coal from the DPRK is a good idea ... I think why it’s closing the mines in Kuzbass ... and also gas to China ... That's right and logical! Mine for the castle, coal to us from the DPRK, and in the PRC its own gas!
    feast of reason in full swing ...
  15. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 28 October 2014 10: 47
    0
    Eeeeeeeeee abducted! soldier
  16. SAA
    SAA 28 October 2014 10: 58
    0
    Divorced Koreans, although they still have no choice. Roads will be counted in dollars at the highest rates, and ore will be collected for rubles. The ore is already underway, and the road will be built within 20 years. Here is someone who is addicted to the "gold mine" for 20 years. And someone's dad will work and his son will have something to convey. Long live the secured happiness.
  17. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 28 October 2014 11: 01
    +1
    I always advocate alliance and cooperation in all areas with the DPRK. But I have never heard and read such nonsense. You are by chance not a friend of Poroshenko, or you were just taught in Dill. Yes, a big lie always draws to the truth. fool soldier
  18. zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 28 October 2014 11: 24
    0
    Quote: Cosmos1987
    25. Build houses with this money and give the apartments to hard workers at zero interest, build farms, put in greenhouses and there will be much more benefit. IMHO.

    Our Russian Railways are in very poor condition and require money if Yakunin does not pull off.
  19. Analgin
    Analgin 28 October 2014 11: 28
    -2
    It seems to me that Botox has played too much geopolitics, but forgot about the economy of its country (or scored, or rather). Maybe it's time for him to bang his brains so that he remembers the Russians; We didn’t choose him for his beautiful eyes, things in the country are getting worse, and instead of putting all his strength into rectifying the situation, he flirts with the West.
    ps: and about 25 billion it is necessary to write not "invest" (normal countries have not been in contact with the middle class for a long time), but simply "bury". So it will be more correct.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 October 2014 12: 40
      +2
      Quote: Analgin
      It seems to me that Botox has played too much geopolitics, but forgot about the economy of its country (or scored, or rather). Maybe it's time for him to bang his brains so that he remembers the Russians; We didn’t choose him for his beautiful eyes, things in the country are getting worse, and instead of putting all his strength into rectifying the situation, he flirts with the West.
      ps: and about 25 billion it is necessary to write not "invest" (normal countries have not been in contact with the middle class for a long time), but simply "bury". So it will be more correct.


      Who do you call "botox"?
      Ehay to your beloved Israel, and there as you want call your prime minister or president.
  20. padded jacket
    padded jacket 28 October 2014 12: 34
    +2
    Quote: Corporal
    Why push money into this armed concentration camp? Better housing for their soldiers, police, etc. cost am


    Here is the Israeli regime, the United States at three billion dollars a year just gives and nothing.
    And you are so worried about the DPRK smile
  21. pavel_SPB
    pavel_SPB 28 October 2014 13: 38
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    but what about the sanctions ??? these 25 lards should be spent on your people and not some Koreans ??? why to the detriment of yourself ??? here’s Putin Mutin.
    1. Prager
      Prager 28 October 2014 15: 42
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      Apparently, they are thinking about the future, about the trans-Korean railway route facing our transsib.
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  23. tasha
    tasha 28 October 2014 16: 40
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    Rummaged in the internet and read that experts from South Korea in 2013g. estimated the mineral reserves of the DPRK at about 6 trillion. dollars. It is believed that the North has world-class reserves for the following resources: magnesite - 2 place in the world (4 billion tons), graphite - 3 place (2 million tons), tungsten - 6 place (160 thousand tons).
    So DPRK has something to pay for the work of our companies in reorganizing their railways.
  24. Aydar
    Aydar 28 October 2014 17: 21
    +2
    Quote: MolGro
    rave!! and full !!
    Zadolbil liberals who imagine themselves patriots !!

    No, not nonsense. In the context of the likely war in Korea No. 2, funds are being invested in transport communications of mutual importance for China, the Russian Federation and the DPRK. A military infrastructure is potentially being created. DPRK is the foremost outpost of the PRC and the Russian Federation in a global confrontation.
    1. VOLKHOV
      VOLKHOV 28 October 2014 18: 16
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      Quote: Aydar
      The DPRK is the foremost outpost of the PRC and the Russian Federation in the global confrontation.

      So far, the DPRK is an adversary of the Russian Federation in a systemic global war and the Russians will not be enough for an infantry victory, which is alarming. This is superKenigsberg, in an attack on which it can die much more than in Damascus and Donetsk.
    2. Talgat
      Talgat 28 October 2014 18: 52
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      I totally agree - South Korea is a satellite of the United States - and the North is good, but the enemy of the "world government" - and the world is already splitting into camps (of course, there are obviously mushrooms - but in some ways Volkhov is right)

      but in general we are all zombified with cliches and stereotypes imposed by the media (and they all have only 2 sources - Reuters and Bloomberg under the control of the Rockefellers) - North Korea is certainly not paradise - but you need to understand that they live in conditions of sanctions and isolation - but do not surrender to "mammon"
      But in their heads there are only cliches - Iran like fanatics - sowing Korea an outcast - all under the dictation of Washington

      in general, I always wondered how people take on faith everything that is hanged to them - there are 6-7 countries and all the "outcasts" - that's just the evil dictators enslaved the people and do not allow joining the freedom of the United States - so they also have Belarus in this category Syria and if it were not for Yao in Russia, we would be
  25. MAX2014
    MAX2014 28 October 2014 17: 23
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    Why do they need a railway? Koreans do not have enough money for bread. And even more so on a ticket. winked
  26. Aydar
    Aydar 28 October 2014 17: 51
    +1
    Quote: MAX2014
    Why do they need a railway? Koreans do not have enough money for bread. And even more so on a ticket. winked

    to bring military material resources from China and Russia when the DPRK begins to level Seoul with the earth.
  27. sounddoc
    sounddoc 28 October 2014 18: 17
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    Gentlemen, Russia needs to stake a place in Kim Il Sung’s homeland! A wonderful Asian bridgehead, a reliable transport corridor to South Korea and, in general, to Asia. And if you equip the DPRK’s army with modern weapons, then with their motivation Russia will have such eastern fighter, mother do not grieve! If anything, these eagles can be set against anyone in the Far Eastern region if necessary. Yes, even mattresses! The script is, of course, fantastic, but even the thought of a direct collision spoils the blood, no matter how they put their fingers in a fan .IMHO.
    1. sounddoc
      sounddoc 28 October 2014 18: 23
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      M.A.T.P.A.S.
  28. Evgeniy.
    Evgeniy. 28 October 2014 18: 18
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    As always, taxi drivers and guards are the best at politics
  29. mimo-crock3
    mimo-crock3 28 October 2014 18: 19
    +1
    Quote: hert
    Something from the forces of the Navy + human resource (a well-trained army, it’s easy to saturate it with modern weapons, but to slightly prepare personnel for work .....)

    Sorry what ? Navy forces? Prepared to eat grass ragged Jucheists?
  30. Hauptam
    Hauptam 28 October 2014 18: 56
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    Little money, more. They will not betray for sure. Geopolitics, you don’t understand, we guess someone three times ....
  31. prishelec
    prishelec 28 October 2014 19: 10
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    That's good that we started, a great project! .. and the fact that some pro-roads, greenhouses, etc. are saying here. Well, Russia has other lards for this! .. and these 25 lards are sent to solve a specific problem, and they are doing it right!
  32. Not evil
    Not evil 28 October 2014 19: 52
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    There is hope that this money will not be sawn at least. But the cancellation of debts I do not understand. Debt payments can be deferred, which is not a weak argument in geopolitics.
  33. Dissenter
    Dissenter 28 October 2014 23: 15
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    25 billion is a significant amount, and since I did not see much benefit to Russia in the article, I do not see the point in all this, although the DPRK could undoubtedly become an excellent ally for Russia
  34. Mentat
    Mentat 29 October 2014 21: 39
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    Again it is full of gorlopanov, alarmists and narrow-minded commentators in the branch.

    This project is an interception of the initiative. The giant bridgehead, which the United States isolated, isolated and insulated. North Korea will now be dragged into Sino-Russian influence almost irrevocably, and in this way South Korea will also be affected. These are labor, human resources, mineral resources, transport corridors, commodity flows. You can’t sit in the backside in a modern rapidly developing environment. We need to step forward with unexpected initiatives and decisions. North Korea in this situation also only wins.