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Vehicles special forces operations of foreign countries. Part of 1

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Vehicles special forces operations of foreign countries. Part of 1

All-Terrain Transport Rescue All Terrain Transport (RATT), built at the beginning of the 90-s, is used by special units of the US Air Force to transport casualties, but at present it cannot provide the necessary mobility


Special forces are designed to act in the rear of the enemy. In the modern scenario, they need to move imperceptibly, although the term “in the rear of the enemy” no longer means so much under conditions of asymmetrical combat operations. Given this, and depending on their method of deployment, the operational units must move long distances, carrying heavy equipment. The implementation method is definitely a key criterion when choosing high-cross cars. The operation can be carried out without any land mobile equipment, for example, parachute landing, can be carried out with limited means using medium helicopters, or carried out with more powerful machines with the participation of heavy aircraft or helicopters.

The same principle applies in case of intrusion from water (or from under water). When deployed directly over land, such restrictions are not so significant, so in some situations special forces can even use heavy armored vehicles.

In essence, there is no such means as a typical “machine for special forces,” although, in the opinion of ordinary people, it should be similar to “stripped” cars from films about World War II. Machines used by special units and often originating from different existing unarmored or armored vehicles are part of the stock of some special forces, although many other types are used: some are lightweight, for example, quad bikes or buggy machines, and others are heavier, for example , M-ATV from Oshkosh, RG-33 from BAE Systems, etc., in service with American forces.

USA

In 2013, the United States placed four contracts related to the mobility of special forces. One in January for Guardian Angels Air Force search and rescue units, which will receive the R-1 Rescue All-Terrain Transport (RATT), one in March for a non-standard commercial vehicle, one in August to replace a GMV 1.0 (Ground Mobility Vehicle) based on Humvee and, finally, one in October in order to fulfill the new requirement for an ITV (Internally Transportable Vehicle) car transported inside the convertible V-22. Let's look at them in chronological order.

GAARV

Although many do not include combat search and rescue operations as special operations, in many aspects they are. Therefore, they need the same technical equipment, including mobile devices. These vehicles are light vehicles with high mobility, since helicopters are involved in most combat search and rescue operations. Cars must be transported either inside the helicopter or on its suspension. At the start of 2013, Guardian Angels US Air Force units selected a modification of the HDT Global Storm car to meet the GAARV (Guardian Angel Air-Deployable Recovery Vehicle) airborne rescue vehicle requirements. This requirement was published (which rarely happens with special forces equipment) and thus it would be interesting to analyze some of its provisions, since they could become a point of reference for highly mobile assault vehicles.

The system requirements document, released in April 2010 of the year, owes its appearance to the conclusion that the currently operating R-1 RATT vehicle has extremely limited possibilities for transporting rescue teams and equipment to the incident area, which are further reduced on the way back from already saved people.




Tactical car Storm was selected for the US Air Force Guardian Angels search and rescue teams.

It is clear that the new car should not only have better off-road patency, but also the ability to work during a hurricane or other humanitarian operations, allowing members of the rescue team to cross streets filled with water up to 76 cm, carrying heaps of garbage. The new Gaarv should be transported inside the M / HC-130P / N, HC-130J, C-130 and C-17 aircraft, in the CH-47 and CH-53 helicopters, and in the CV / MV-22 Osprey tiltrotor. According to the command document aviation Air Force "Transportability of wheeled vehicles in V-22" in order for the car to enter the Osprey, it must be shorter than 4,44 meters, below 1,5 meters on the center line and already 1,52 meters. An analysis conducted in the subsequent period showed that such a vehicle is not able to satisfy the requirements for payload and power reserve, and therefore the requirements for the CV / MV-22 tilt plane were removed from the document published two years later. Obviously, this relaxed the restrictions and allowed some of the key parameters to be reviewed. The most important of them was the payload: Gaarv must transport a rescue group of four with its equipment, its total weight is estimated at 677 kg. But the heavy rapid deployment system Rapid Extraction Deployment System (REDS), ammunition, water, weapons installed on the machine and cargo increase the weight by another 684 kg, two stretchers with patients each 113 kg each increase the weight to 1587 kg, while the maximum own the mass of this car is 2268 kg. All personnel, including two speed bumps, must be inside the safety cage that protects when rolling over. The minimum range was determined at 280 km (autonomy 560 km) with two hours of engine operation at the scene, although its target value was doubled (engine operating time at the scene also two hours); in both cases, the speed of the car with the full operational weight on the main roads is 72 km / h. The required maximum speed should be more than 135 km / h. Gaarv must overcome 100% slopes and 80% lateral slopes. The engine must run on standard gasoline with an octane rating of 80 or higher, although a diesel engine can be installed optionally.

As for weapons, the machine must be able to adopt weapons with interchangeable supports for M-249, M-240 or similar. weapons. Serviced weapons should have a circular sector of 360 ° shelling without transportable stretchers or at least 270 ° with two stretchers. It is not possible here to provide a complete list of requirements or to compare two 2010 and 2012 documents of the year. What can be said definitely is that perhaps no machine can meet all the requirements of the original document, and some of these requirements are generally contradictory. Therefore, the units of Guardian Angels decided to take the path of least resistance - to take the existing solution that could fit their mission in the best possible way, remaining within the budget.



SR Customs-5 from BC Customs

21 January 2013 of the Year The Air Force Lifecycle Management Center (AFLCMC) issued an HDT Global contract for Gaarv, selecting the Storm model. Shown in the fall of the 2012 of the year, the Storm SRTV (Search and Rescue Tactical Vehicle) is a modification of the SRTV-5, created by BC Customs; This company also developed a version of the car, which could go into a convertiplane V-22. The Storm car was developed in collaboration with special forces, it meets most of the requirements of Gaarv and is based on a chassis with a tubular frame with a General Motors LS3 gasoline engine with an 430 hp power. The engine is installed in the center to ensure good weight centering. With a total tonnage of 3,6 and a tonne of 1,96 tonnes, the Storm fits perfectly into the restrictions, the maximum speed on the highway exceeds 160 km / h, and the power density almost 120 hp / t allows you to accelerate to 100 km / h in just over 15 seconds. Off-road throughput is provided by the engine with torque 576 Nm and suspension with high speed. The standard machine has a 4,90 meter length, a 2,03 meter width and a 1,68 meter height; Up to three stretchers are placed inside the roll-over protection frame, while the machine gun mounted at the top has a circular sector of 360 ° shelling. The contract with an indefinite delivery date and an unspecified quantity included the purchase for testing and evaluation of the first batch of five vehicles; their production began in August 2013 of the year, and the delivery of 12 in November 2013 of the year. After completing the test, the USAF will be able to buy another 61 machine. In small quantities, the Storm variant is also in service with the US Border Guard.


HDT Global has developed and manufactured the SRTV, which is based on the racing buggy created by BC Customs.

Custom NSCV Commercial Machines

In December 2012, the General Services Administration issued a request for a commercial proposal for so-called non-standard commercial vehicles (NSCV), designed to command special operations forces. Machines of this type are not only a cheap solution to ensure the mobility of battle groups, they can also be used by undercover groups to seamlessly merge with local traffic.

The special forces, however, need some form of protection and increased mobility, that is, the adaptation of light-duty pick-up trucks, SUVs, sedans or vans to their requirements is necessary. For the next three years, the American command of special operations forces will require about 300 of such vehicles and, therefore, in March 2013 of the year it entered into a contract with the Battel Memorial Institute. Its subsidiary, Battelle Tactical Systems, has been carrying out this kind of modernization for almost a decade, and according to the terms of the contract, it modifies Toyota's Land Cruiser and Hi-Luxe cars in accordance with special requirements. This includes booking, integration of the combat information and control system, upgrading of the chassis components, such as chassis reinforcement and reinforced suspension, more powerful operating brakes, wheels with protivproskolnymi inserts, infrared lights, a winch, a roof rack and additional power shafts. The Battel Institute works together with a number of subcontractors, mainly a small business (including veteran organizations). The contract will run from March 2013 to March 2016, the total cost of which is 69 million dollars. If we break it up by years, then about a year 23,7 million dollars and from 90 to 100 cars fall on a year. At the same time, the percentage of the two models has not yet been disclosed. The trials of six cars (three for each model) began in July 2013 of the year and ended in February of 2014; in the same month began the first deliveries.

Indigenous Armor offered a completely different approach to the NSCV concept. She developed a completely new car based on the requirements for protection and undercarriage, and then “disguised” it as a commercial vehicle. The car received the designation NSTT (Non Standard Tactical Truck - non-standard tactical truck), on it the turbo diesel engine is installed with the power of 325 hp. from the company Navistar. This machine is 1,93 meter wide and can be easily transported in a CH-47 helicopter, its maximum speed exceeds 135 km / h on paved roads, it can overcome 60% slopes or move along 40% side slopes. The car features an independent suspension with diagonal suspension arms on the rear axle and double A-arms on the front axle. The bottom provides protection against blasting on the M-67 hand grenade, ballistic protection is at B6 Level (NATO standard 7,62-mm bullet). According to the documents of the program office of the special forces command, specialized armored cars, such as NSCV, are on the list of command needs.


The Specter Wide Track Configuration configuration, based on the Jamma Force Protection vehicle, was used to develop the GDLS company's bid for the GMV 1.1 program. A narrow gauge variant has been proposed for the ITV program.



The GMV 1.1 from AM General is already wider than the previous GMV 1.0 (in turn, a direct modification of the Humvee), but nevertheless it maintains a high level of uniformity with its predecessor.



On GMV 1.1 from AM General, the Optimizer 3200 engine from the same company is installed, which is also installed in the BRV-O car offered for the JLTV program

GMV1.1

The lucrative contract under the GMV 1.1 program led numerous companies to develop high-traffic vehicles. In the end, 22 August 2013 of the year (with a semiannual delay) the command of special operations forces announced their choice of General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems, combined with Flyer Defense LLC (among other well-known applicants were AM General, General Dynamics Land Systems, Lockheed Martin , Navistar, Oshkosh, and SAIC. Due to the shrinking US market, some of the bidders decided to protest this decision and the General Budget Office started checking out protests filed by AM General and Navistar. 19 December 2013 of the year rejected the protests, but Chal January 2014 year, AM General has filed a lawsuit in US federal court on an application for special operations forces command). A contract with indefinite delivery times and an indefinite number of GMV 1.1 can reach the sum of 562,2 million dollars and the total number of 1297 machines that will be equipped with combat information and control systems supplied by state-owned enterprises.

The new car will replace the GMV 1.0 based on the Humvee, which on the balance of command is worth 1072 pieces. Being a modification of the M1165A1 ECV, this car retains the width of the 2,21 meter, which makes it impossible to transport it in a Chinook helicopter. The payload varies from 2,2 to 1,1 tons, depending on whether the protection is set to B3 Level or not.

According to the results of the recent meetings, the requirements for GMV 1.1 were determined, according to which the vehicle should be placed in C / MH-47 and, after leaving the helicopter, the armament should be ready for firing in less than 60 seconds. The threshold total weight of the vehicle (own weight plus equipment to support the flight) was installed in 5,9 tons, the vehicle must accommodate four main passengers plus an arrow with the possibility of accommodating two more passengers. The projected operational profile provides 70% driving time on auxiliary roads and 30% on main roads. GMV 1.1 should reach speeds over 100 km / h on roads covered and overcome the vertical step 46 height, see. Minimum cruising range when filling the tank on 75% was set to 400 km. The vehicle must be equipped with a safety cage capable of supporting four of its total masses. Other requirements include light, modular protection solutions, minimal signs of conspicuity (signatures) in various environmental conditions, all-round visibility of the crew at 360 ° with a minimum of dead zones, a continuous sector of firing 360 ° for the main combat module. Also, the architecture of vetroniki (vehicle electronics) should provide easy integration of new CBSs. For further development, multi-fuel, availability of simulators for cost savings, tools for improved situational awareness of the next generation and, finally, maintainability in harsh conditions with minimal assistance are needed. At the same time the possibility of transportation in the tiltrotor V-22 is not required.

GMV 1.1 is a modification of the Flyer car, developed in the middle of 90's by the Flyer Group LLC (currently Flyer Defense part of the Marvin Group). The company then joined forces with General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems, the de facto main contractor for the bid. Strangely enough, the detailed information about the characteristics of the winning car was not disclosed. Although based on a well-known car, it should be at least wider (as determined by the requirements), since the original Flyer is intended more for transportation in the V-22 than in the CH-47 helicopter. Apparently, the manufacturer waits for the resolution of all legal disputes, before announcing the details of the contract for Flyer GMV 1.1. The rest of the article will describe a version compatible with the V-22 convertoplane.

At AUSA 2012, General Dynamics presented a version of its Specter, a further modification of the Jamma developed by Force Protection (Force Protection was purchased at the end of 2011). Specifically designed for transporting a V-22 convertoplane, the Jamma, later renamed Specter, also has a broader version that is transported inside the CH-47. This Specter WTC (Wide Track Configuration) is based on a high modulus skateboard-type chassis (power plant, auxiliary units, suspension and fuel tank inside a flat platform on which the body can be installed with an arbitrary configuration) with a ground clearance 427 mm, on which the modular case is installed. The length of the 5,53 machine meter, due to the wider wheels and the geometry of the suspension with longer levers, the width increased to 1,98 meter compared to the 1,52 meter in the V-22 version. The Specter WTC is fitted with an 3,2-liter six-cylinder in-line diesel engine with a turbocharged horsepower 180. and torque 540 Nm; maximum speed on roads with a coverage of more than 135 km / h. Two operators are placed behind the driver and commander, a machine gunner is placed on the rear platform and, if necessary, two more people (the maximum number of seats is seven). On the rear platform, the safety cage is much higher than at the front of the car (for air transport, the height of the frame is reduced manually from the 2,80 meter to the 1,82 meter in less than a minute and a half). Specter WTC's own weight is 3,3 tons and the payload capacity of 1,37 tons, which can be partially used to increase the level of protection.



Although Navistar’s Special Operations Tactical Vehicle looks like a light truck, it’s actually a specially designed vehicle disguised as a pickup truck.



Navistar Defense’s SOTV can be equipped with additional protection kits to increase crew protection.

AM General offered a GMV-based 1.0 vehicle (currently in service), which retains its uniformity with the M1165A1 at the 70% level, which significantly reduces operating costs, spare parts, maintenance and training. Although the level of uniformity is very high, however, GMV 1.1 has become a completely new platform, since it meets the requirements for transportability in the CH-47 with a corresponding decrease in width by 18 cm (the GMV 1.1 is also included in the CH-53 helicopter). In addition, the adopted engine is a modification of the engine offered by AM General for its BRV-O car, which in turn is proposed as a solution for the JLTV project. Thus, the Optimizer 3200 was adopted, but its power was reduced by 10% compared to the power of the JLTV engine in order to reduce fuel consumption and install a lighter transmission (it is also proposed for the upgraded Hummer chassis); power output 270 hp converted to more than one horsepower per kilogram of engine (it weighs 250 kg). AM General focused on weight reduction and this led to the fact that the power density was 45 hp / t, and the net payload of 3175 kg, which is more than the car's own weight 2812 kg. The car also has a power reserve of more than 480 km and a maximum speed of 130 km / h on the highway, while a fully independent suspension, taken from the world of racing cars, provides good cross-country maneuverability. The modular rack system allows you to change the configuration of the placement of people and cargo (places for 4-7 people and six places of attachment of weapons). All passengers are protected by a modular safety cage, which, according to the company, is capable of withstanding the calculated load of 150%. AM General offers its GMV vehicles in the international market, where they attract considerable interest.


Medium Assault Vehicle - Light from Northrop Grumman was created in partnership with Pratt & Miller Engineering. BAE Systems has developed a booking kit for the car

Navistar, with its GMV 1.1 application, copies the approach of Indigen Armor, with which it collaborates on the already mentioned NSTT project. In other words, its SOTV (Special Operations Tactical Vehicle - tactical special operations vehicle) is very similar to the Toyota Hi-Lux, one of the most common pickups that can be seen in many potential areas of operations. Although the similarity is only external, the car itself was specially created to meet the requirements for GMV 1.1. The length of the 5,33 machine is meter, the width of the 2,01 meter and the height of the 1,83 meter, which is 10% more than that of Hi-Lux. It has its own weight 3312 kg, useful payload 3084 kg; Seating in a secure cabin four plus one. The car has a suspension with double wishbones and spring-hydraulic shock absorbers in front and suspension on oblique levers with spring-hydraulic shock absorbers in the back. The engine is based on the Navistar MaxxForce V8 six-liter turbo-charged diesel engine with intercooled horsepower 325. and 773 Nm maximum torque coupled to an Allison 2550SP six-speed automatic transmission. The basic weapon system can accept an 12,7-mm machine gun or an 40-mm automatic grenade launcher. When loading a car into a Chinook helicopter, installing weapons by pulling out just two pins can be quickly removed and placed on the rear platform. Navistar offers its car as an armored platform, which is protected against NATO 7,62x51 mm bullets in accordance with EN 1063 standards. Additional booking kits may also be installed on the machine.

Modularity was the highest priority when Oshkosh Defense began to work from scratch with the goal of developing a vehicle currently known as S-ATV (Special Purpose All Terrain Vehicle). It was first shown in September 2012. The basis of the machine is a roll-over protection frame with a four-door cab, the protection level of which can be adapted to customer requirements (therefore, the net weight varies from 2,7 to 4,5 tons with a total weight of 6,35 tons). The standard width is approximately two meters, but can be reduced for the purpose of transportability in CH-47 in accordance with the GMV 1.1 application or vice versa increased if larger volumes are needed. In order to meet different mobility requirements, a customer can also choose a turbodiesel engine to his taste, the output power varies from 225 hp. up to more than xnumx hp with torque exceeding 300 Nm. A multi-fuel engine can run on diesel, JP-815 or Jet-A. The maximum technical speed is 8 km / h, while the power reserve exceeds 120 km. The driver is located in the center, depending on the configuration, the number of seats in the S-ATV from two to seven. To power the 500 B network, generators can be installed on 24 – 200 A. Oshkosh, a specialist in suspension systems, naturally installed its intelligent independent suspension TAK-300i, which allows the car to easily travel over rough or urban terrain at high speed because ground clearance can be regulated depending on the type of terrain, and during air transport may be reduced to a minimum. A kit for low temperatures reduces the minimum operating temperature to -4 ° C, while the standard operating temperature range is from -45 ° C to + 32 ° C.

At AUSA 2012, Northrop Grumman showed off its proposal for the GMV 1.1 project under the designation MAV-L (Medium Assault Vehicle - Light), developed from scratch in collaboration with Pratt & Miller Engineering. Pratt & Miller chose a tubular frame with a 4,4-liter Caterpillar 220 hp engine installed. and a torque of 700 Nm. Good off-road mobility is ensured by the Meritor independent suspension with long-short arms on the front axle and trailing arms on the rear axle with corresponding 46 cm and 51 cm travels.The MAV-L is 5,32 meters long, 2,02 meters wide (allows transport in Chinook) , while the height of 2,09 meters can be reduced to 1,85 meters in air transport mode in just three seconds, which corresponds to the time of lowering the ramp of the CH-47 helicopter. The total mass of the MAV-L is almost 5,9 tons, the power density is over 37 hp / t, the maximum speed on paved roads is 130 km / h and over 95 km / h on unpaved roads, a 140 liter fuel tank allows range of more than 420 km when driving on mixed terrain: 30% paved roads, 30% dirt roads and 40% off-road. Six people can be accommodated inside the protective frame, while the seventh is served by a machine gun. However, to accommodate the additional number of people, the MAV-L is equipped with one handrail under the vehicle and one handrail on top so that four people on each side can catch on from the outside during the final phase of the attack, bringing the total to 15 people. Northrop Grumman offers a weather-only kit as well as an arctic sub-standard kit. Also available is a third kit developed by BAE Systems to provide ballistic protection (non-expandable level). In a closed configuration, the MAV-L can accommodate four. The support ring can accept a 12,7 mm machine gun or even a remotely controlled weapon station; however, it can be replaced by an information gathering and reconnaissance station in case of reconnaissance missions; a 400 A generator provides sufficient power for most combat missions. Northrop Grumman intends to promote its MAV-L vehicle and is considering the needs of the US Army, Marine Corps and Air Force, and the export market.



The company's offer for Lockheed Martin GMV 1.1, in fact, was based on the British Supacat HMT vehicle, versions of which are in service with the British army

In collaboration with the British Supacat, Lockheed Martin developed a variant of the HMT series and gave it the designation CVNG (Common Vehicle Next Generation - the next generation common car). CVNG is available in 4x4 and 6x6 configurations. Both configurations have a width of 2,03 meters and a length of 5,50 and 6,75 meters respectively, which is slightly less than their British counterparts, but at the same wheelbase. The 4x4 configuration car has a total weight of 7 tons, the own weight of 4,4 tons, the effective payload capacity of 2,6 tons allows you to increase protection to a certain level. The 6x6 variant with a total mass of 10,5 tons has a tonnage capacity of 5,4. Lockheed Martin has teamed up with British Jankel to offer three sets of reservations: the explosive and ballistic 1 Level, the explosive 2a Level and the ballistic 2 Level. CVNG car with 6,7-liter Cummins ISBe engine with horsepower 185 hp It has a maximum speed of 130 km / h and a power reserve of 500 km, which increases to 700 km when installing an additional fuel tank. It leaves an adjustable air suspension of the basic version of the HMT, allowing you to change the ground clearance from 180 to 485 mm and, accordingly, overall height from the minimum 1,89 meter in the transport position to the 2,39 meter. The modular cabin, which can accommodate various functional kits, accommodates five people plus a machine gunner.



Description of Protector II armored car from Mobile Armored Vehicles with my subtitles

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  1. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 27 October 2014 09: 09
    +8
    For me personally, acquaintance with such medium-sized movements, adapted specifically for the performance of tasks for special purpose units, became this model of the Willys car, of the Tamiyya company, which I acquired on the occasion of being a teenager.



    With the model, in the box was a piece of paper in English with black and white photographs, which described the creation of mobile SAS units in North Africa, in 1942, as well as the effectiveness of their "activities" in raids on enemy rear lines.
    I remember how, after translating the text, it would not let me go for a long time.
    And since then I have always "not even breathed" looking at such a car. laughing

    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 27 October 2014 09: 14
      +4
      Or this one:



      1. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 27 October 2014 09: 17
        +1
        And about such generally I am silent (clickable):



        Because green envy gnaws at me very much. laughing
        1. wanderer_032
          wanderer_032 27 October 2014 09: 24
          +2
          But finally, we got a normal car from ours. If I had some money, I would have bought it for myself like this:



          And so on the 469th until retirement and I will ride. recourse laughing
          1. wanderer_032
            wanderer_032 27 October 2014 09: 27
            +1
            By the way, there is already a machine developed for the "specialty", "Scorpion-LTA":

            1. Hairy Siberian
              Hairy Siberian 27 October 2014 09: 40
              +1
              As I understand it, the modern trend on armored vehicles is LED headlights.
            2. Lopatov
              Lopatov 27 October 2014 10: 07
              +6
              This is an Israeli machine. "Zashchita" bought a license.
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              2. wanderer_032
                wanderer_032 27 October 2014 15: 42
                +1
                Quote: Spade
                "Zashchita" bought a license.


                Well and good, then something purely will go their way.
              3. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 27 October 2014 18: 21
                +4
                New machine from IMI. Also visible only to the MTR.
              4. viruvalge412ee
                viruvalge412ee 27 October 2014 18: 28
                -2
                who, excuse me, the synagogues bought a license ...
            3. Argon
              Argon 27 October 2014 10: 57
              +2
              Perhaps I'm wrong, but such "technical convulsions" arise from the inability to create a full-fledged airmobile combat vehicle. In the USSR, this problem was solved more than 40 years ago-BMD2, with appropriate modernization, is quite suitable for solving "special" tasks if someone does not like the MGH of our machine , the German BMD "Wiesel". Having fantasized, you can imagine a device based on the ASU-57. But a jeep with a machine gun is somehow not serious, any stray splinter that hit the driver of such a car (consider the consequences when driving over rough terrain at a speed of 50 km / h) puts under the question of completing the task.In general, not a promising class of military equipment.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 27 October 2014 11: 08
                +2
                Quote: Argon
                In the USSR, this problem was solved more than 40 years ago-BMD2

                Oh, is it? And why are our valiant airborne assault brigades "armed" with UAZs?

                We currently do not have normal vehicles transported by helicopters. Specifically, the most common Mi-8
                1. Argon
                  Argon 27 October 2014 12: 13
                  0
                  I don’t have such information (the photo finally is not the topic). The special forces of Russia are currently only being created (not formed) what remains of the union has been systematically destroyed for 25 years. With the "departure" from the AA Mi-6, we have nothing at all helicopter that could be transported in the tactical zone (Mi-26 is too big) Mi-8 carries a group of 6-8 people with all the equipment + fuel for itself (10 people is already a promblemma). And then you need to think about a helicopter (or tiltrotor) .By the way, not one of the Mi-8 devices presented in the article will also not be taken to WAR because it will not rise.
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 27 October 2014 14: 39
                    0
                    Quote: Argon
                    I do not have such information (your photo is finally off topic)

                    Why not the topic? The photo shows the personnel of one of the four (!) Russian "UAZ brigades", specifically Kamyshinsky. We don't even have "seizures due to inability", we take everything for granted.


                    Quote: Argon
                    Mi-8 carries a group of 6-8 people with all the equipment + fuel for themselves (10 people are already a problem)

                    Cool. Judging by your numbers, 500-600 kg per person?


                    Quote: Argon
                    By the way, not one of the Mi-8 devices presented in the article also, will not be taken to WAR because it will not be lifted.

                    I will not look for data on all the machines, but the Mi-8 helicopter easily transported the first Storm SRTV machine mentioned in the article. It is suitable for both weight and size.
                2. wanderer_032
                  wanderer_032 27 October 2014 15: 33
                  +4
                  Quote: Spade
                  We currently do not have normal vehicles transported by helicopters.


                  To revive the production of TPK LUAZ-967, making design changes taking into account modern requirements.


              2. wanderer_032
                wanderer_032 27 October 2014 15: 54
                0
                Quote: Argon
                . In general, not a promising class of military equipment.


                Yeah. Only all world-famous automobile concerns, for some reason, still design and manufacture such cars.
            4. cosmos111
              cosmos111 27 October 2014 22: 54
              0
              AM General’s GMV 1.1 in width compared to the previous GMV 1.0

              AM General "Humvee" HMMWV (ground mobility vehicle (GMV))))) for special operations forces ...


              info s:http://www.americanspecialops.com/photos/special-ops-vehicles-gallery.php
    2. Mister X
      Mister X 27 October 2014 13: 19
      +3
      Austrian Pinzgauer Class Light Utility Vehicle

      1. Hairy Siberian
        Hairy Siberian 27 October 2014 15: 54
        +2
        Here is another Pinzgauer:
        1. Mister X
          Mister X 27 October 2014 16: 12
          +1
          Quote: Hairy Siberian
          Here is another Pinzgauer

          Such were in the DDS "Pantera" unit of the Ministry of Justice of the Republic of Moldova.
          1. Hairy Siberian
            Hairy Siberian 27 October 2014 16: 33
            +1
            Cool car for "prison special forces".
            1. Mister X
              Mister X 27 October 2014 16: 57
              +2
              Quote: Hairy Siberian
              Cool car for "prison special forces".

              They are called "purple berets".
              Selection from them is the cruelest: in a year 5-7 people can pass.

              And here is another special transport for the Moldovan "prison special forces":

      2. cosmos111
        cosmos111 28 October 2014 00: 06
        +1
        Quote: Mister X
        Austrian Pinzgauer Class Light Utility Vehicle

        nice car with excellent cross ....

        now for "Pinzgauer 718" 6x6, for Special Operations Forces (SOV)))
        Delta uses the "Pinzgauer" for long-range reconnaissance operations behind enemy lines and as a fire support vehicle ....

        "Pinzgauer" 718 6x6 - length: 5.3 meters, height: 2.0 meters, width: 1,8 meters, weight: 2550 kg (empty) / 4960 kg (full), ground clearance: 360 mm ...

        "Pinzgauer" 6x6 Austrian Armed Forces

        info s:http://www.americanspecialops.com/vehicles/
  2. Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 October 2014 10: 18
    +3
    Lastkraftwagen 0,75 t gl. "Kraka" (4x2) Typ 640





    http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/kraka/kraka.htm







  3. Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 October 2014 10: 25
    +1
    AGF "Serval"
    http://www.panzer-modell.de/referenz/in_detail/serval/serval.htm



  4. bionik
    bionik 27 October 2014 10: 34
    +4
    Buggy on the basis of units and components from Niva designed by the hero of Rosiii lieutenant colonel Anatoly Lebed who died tragically on April 27, 2012 in Moscow
    1. bionik
      bionik 27 October 2014 10: 38
      +4
      Anatoly Lebed
    2. Hun
      Hun 31 October 2014 16: 53
      0
      Interesting idea! Only on an industrial scale will the price rise significantly. Probably! Although ... cheaper than "tigers" and more practical!
  5. Lopatov
    Lopatov 27 October 2014 10: 35
    0
    KMW Mungo ESK
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 27 October 2014 20: 25
      0
      lightly armoredDesert Patrol Vehicle (DPV)used by Special Operations Forces (SOF) in 1991 during the 1st Iraqi War ... "Desert Storm" ...
      клик

    2. cosmos111
      cosmos111 27 October 2014 20: 49
      0
      the armored vehicle Scorpio Fast Attack Vehicle, developed in 1984, was also used in the 1991 war ...
      3-man crew ... armament of a 2-gun Browning or 40-mm grenade launcher, etc .....
      клик

      info s:http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=82
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 27 October 2014 21: 01
        0
        armored Scorpion Fast Attack Vehicle, designed in 1982, a two-seater version .... developed by the Californian company Chenowth Racing Products

        The 2-seater version, developed in 1982, received the status of a "fast-deployment vehicle" FAV (Fast Attack Vehicle) two years later. ...
        The FAV Scorpion variant adopted in the early 90s
        3-man crew ... armament of a 2-gun Browning or 40-mm grenade launcher, etc .....
        клик

        info s:http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/detail.asp?armor_id=82[/ Quote]
        http://www.redov.ru/tehnicheskie_nauki/yenciklopedija_voennyh_avtomobilei_1769_2


        006_gg_s_ja / p178.php
      2. cosmos111
        cosmos111 27 October 2014 21: 37
        +1
        usa use Mercedes-Benz G-Wagen ...
        in the late 90s, in the special ... ILC of the United States, replaced the M-151 (Jeep) ... was used in Iraq and Afghanistan ...

        Model: 461 290 GDT G-Wagen
        engine: Mercedes-Benz OM602.983, power: 120 hp at 4000 vol. / min ...
        can be transported by helicopter- CH-53D ...
        G-Wagen 4x4
        клик


        info s:http://www.dieselpowermag.com/features/1005dp_us_marine_corps_g_wagen/
        1. marshes
          marshes 27 October 2014 21: 47
          +1
          Merena G stopped producing this year, now Soap.
          And G Arabs bought, put anti-tank systems and Minigans, as well as first-person co-cars.
          On some models and radars, the mini ones are airy, even though with such a life they can be understood.
          TOYOTA - currently steers 200t and Lexus 570s.
  6. Tuzik
    Tuzik 27 October 2014 12: 27
    +3
    we had a Luazik) and even swam!
    1. Prager
      Prager 27 October 2014 13: 32
      +1
      Yeah, I remember this miracle of the Lugansk Automobile Plant, also sailed ... laughing
  7. bmv04636
    bmv04636 27 October 2014 13: 18
    +5
    An interesting instance with a modern reading may not be a bad car for special forces.
    1. avt
      avt 27 October 2014 15: 20
      +3
      Quote: bmv04636
      An interesting instance with a modern reading may not be a bad car for special forces.
      good Heir to the soap dish Volks wagen during the war and amerovskoy "duck"
      If you make a clamber for special forces, then you need a floating one. Okay, in winter - at least some kind of awning can be primed from the wind, although it's not ice either, but what will the group do in front of some more or less deep and relatively wide water barrier ??? So, no matter how you twist and not admire the beach option - a buggy, you need a waterfowl, at least like a "Vodnik" or a French analogue of a waterfowl, it was not for nothing that the FSB wanted to buy it.
      Quote: wanderer_032
      By the way, there is already a machine developed for the "specialty", "Scorpion-LTA":

      A classic option for the desert, let the Jews cut it there.
      1. Massik
        Massik 27 October 2014 18: 22
        +2
        All the same, the "mess" is not bad, even if you can't throw it with aircraft, it climbs almost everywhere and swims better "than that in the hole." In case of the latter and decisive, there is a super-powerful KPVT. One thing is bad, there are not enough places for the landing, you can't go more than five of us ...
        1. Lopatov
          Lopatov 27 October 2014 19: 38
          +2
          And he likes to get on board. Only with me two cases were
          1. Massik
            Massik 27 October 2014 19: 40
            +2
            Someone even manages to put tanks on the tower and fall out from the driver's seat onto the serpentine when two platoons are in the back, and the driver is running after the "Ural" laughing
            1. Lopatov
              Lopatov 27 October 2014 19: 52
              +1
              Et yes ... If you wish, you can turn the bike too ...
      2. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 27 October 2014 18: 46
        +2
        Quote: avt
        A classic option for the desert, let the Jews cut it there.


        That's why I propose to carry out a deep modernization of the LUAZ-967 TPK, equip the car with a modern ICE and transmission (put automatic transmission (GMP)), make the necessary structural changes to the chassis to improve its driving performance. Instead of a winch with a belt drive, install a winch with an electromechanical drive.
        This model of automotive equipment itself is not outdated and fully complies with the requirements for transport of special units. Those. they have sufficient carrying capacity and passability, as well as overall dimensions (for transporting it by such air transport as MI-8, both inside and on the external sling). In addition, he can swim.

        As for the filing of copyright claims, etc., I’ll say right away that this TPK was originally developed in the US in the 50s of the last century by order of the USSR Ministry of Defense.

        It’s just that in the USSR they tried not to offend anyone and occupy the population with useful work for the benefit of the Fatherland, therefore, as a result of this, the factory for their production ended up in Lutsk.

        You can also consider a 3-axis version, such a development was LUAZ-972

        1. avt
          avt 27 October 2014 19: 15
          +1
          Quote: wanderer_032
          This model of automotive equipment itself is not outdated and fully complies with the requirements for transport of special units. Those. they have sufficient carrying capacity and passability, as well as overall dimensions (for transporting it by such air transport as MI-8, both inside and on the external sling). In addition, he can swim.
          good And ATVs with motorcycles are not needed - she can block their niche with competent modernization.
          There is one more criterion that cannot be lost during modernization - unlike the sophisticated, cool cars of cool Hollywood boys ala Chuck Noris where is he in the movie Delta with pokatushkami wound around Lebanon in search of a hijacked plane, and if something happens it is not so sorry to leave him , well, if there is no fuel there, or you cannot leave with it quietly and without a trace, as well as if there is no way to take it with you during evacuation, that is, there must be a very serious bias towards efficiency in the cost-efficiency formula.
          Quote: Marssik
          All the same, the "mess" is not bad

          Well, they did it not in Discovery garages, but according to a very specific technical task, taking into account the exploitation of the predecessor No. 1. And not in a hurry and because it is fashionable.
          Quote: Marssik
          , let it not be thrown by aviation
          good
          We’ll clarify - you don’t land, but it was originally laid down - the machine of the ground forces, the name very closely matches its characteristics - reconnaissance, sentinel.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 27 October 2014 20: 14
            +1
            "Mess" is corny outdated. There is no niche for him in modern conditions.

            Modern vehicles for the SSO are primarily mobile communication centers, like the prototypes on the Kamaz-Vystrel base that took place in South Ossetia. Nothing super complicated, just a conventional armored personnel carrier.

            By the way, BRDM-3:
            1. wanderer_032
              wanderer_032 27 October 2014 20: 29
              0
              Quote: Spade
              By the way, BRDM-3


              This machine is not for the RDGs operating behind enemy lines, but for the advanced (coming at the forefront) tank or motorized rifle units.
              Different specifics.
              1. Lopatov
                Lopatov 27 October 2014 20: 32
                0
                Quote: wanderer_032
                This machine is not for RDGs operating behind enemy lines

                Why?
                1. wanderer_032
                  wanderer_032 27 October 2014 21: 06
                  0
                  Quote: Spade
                  Why?


                  And how do you imagine the penetration of the RDG into the deep rear of the enemy in an armored vehicle the size of a bus and weighing under 18 tons, with a very specific combat mission that involves the most secretive, but time-limited approach to the location of the operation?
                  1. Lopatov
                    Lopatov 27 October 2014 21: 36
                    0
                    Not by "machine" but by "machines". Several armored personnel carriers. There is an opportunity to slip through, given the absence of a solid front line. If through the air, why fool yourself if there are the most beautiful BMD-BTRD. You understand, NATO members will not sit in the rear, their theme has long been worked out: MRAPs, like dirt, even gave extra to Georgians. And they won't be able to shoot them with a gun in the SAS style.

                    By the way, already in Northern Italy it became clear that some SUVs, as in Northern. Africa SAS is not enough, they had to drop mountain guns
                    1. marshes
                      marshes 27 October 2014 21: 51
                      0
                      Quote: Spade
                      MRAPs like dirt

                      Seriously there are a lot of them, At least a gelding Pullman, a shot from an RPG-7 can withstand, though not really "old".
                    2. wanderer_032
                      wanderer_032 27 October 2014 21: 52
                      0
                      Quote: Spade
                      You understand, the NATO troops will not have burdocks in the rear, they have worked out the topic for a long time: MRAPs, like dirt, were given to Georgians too much. And they will not be able to shoot them with a SAS-style SUV.


                      Maybe most likely not burdocks.
                      BA type MRAP, yes menacingly. Horror a lot.
                      Just imagine such a small and nimble mafynka that can be hidden in any hollow, with anti-tank systems or with a good, powerful RPG in its installation, for example, which pierces under a meter of homogeneous armor.
                      No BA such as MRAP can withstand such a hit ...
                      Here you will admire what can be mounted on TPK:







                      This is only a small part, you can only guess about the rest, given the development of modern anti-tank and other missile systems, as well as equipping the RDGs with modern electron-optical reconnaissance and surveillance systems, as well as satellite navigation. As well as Wed-you modern communications, personal protection and equipment.
                      1. wanderer_032
                        wanderer_032 27 October 2014 22: 22
                        0
                        In addition, for modern mortars there are high-precision guided ammunition of the "Edge" type. And even they are already yesterday.

                        It is enough to throw special infrared tags or radio beacons onto the territory of the object from a slingshot or crossbow, and the enemy’s object turns into ruins from a missile or RSA fired tens or hundreds of kilometers from it.

                        And the group that discovered and "marked" such an object, having gone to their hidden somewhere in the side of the TPK, has already gone to look for a new target, or to undermine a bridge, railway track or something else important.
                        Or maybe this group will arrange an ambush somewhere along the road, fortunately throw off the coordinates for throwing the equipment you need and the mat.sp-in, drive up to the dumping place, replenish with BC, fuel, food and drive on.
                        Or maybe diligent agents already in advance prepared caches, put all that is needed.
                        By the way, the RDG can also replenish its material reserves at the expense of the enemy.

                        The TPKs were damaged or destroyed, the group will find another transport for itself, it fulfilled its task, and cost a penny in comparison with the damage inflicted on the enemy.
                      2. wanderer_032
                        wanderer_032 27 October 2014 22: 41
                        0
                        In addition to the TPK, you can send your 300s or 200s to the evacuation point, you can’t drag everything on yourself.
                        Also, with the help of its winch, it is possible to pull a ship through a river or a lake of small width, or to pull other cargoes over land and water.
                        And if you put a modern winch on it, electromechanical, you can even use it as a means of self-extraction.
                        This little unpretentious machine can do a lot of things if it is used by people who have brains in their heads and hands grow from the right place.
                  2. Hun
                    Hun 31 October 2014 17: 05
                    0
                    The penetration of a motorized group is not even reconnaissance in battle, but an attack-wedging ... reconnaissance is a delicate work, stealth means!
          2. Hun
            Hun 31 October 2014 17: 01
            0
            Do not scout the car - definitely !!! BTR, only the chassis is different. Nothing new for military use! request
      3. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 27 October 2014 20: 44
        +1
        By the way, the experience of creating cars for special forces was at both VAZ and UAZ.





        UAZ-3907 "Jaguar" first and second prototypes. Photos taken at the Ryazan Military Automobile Institute.



        VAZ-2122 R&D theme "River" and UAZ-3907 "Jaguar".
    2. Lopatov
      Lopatov 27 October 2014 19: 43
      0
      Quote: avt
      need a waterfowl, at least like a "Vodnik"

      He is not floating. Most likely because in a series and did not go.
  8. Hun
    Hun 31 October 2014 16: 57
    0
    A simplified version of the BRDM for rear needs?
  • gregor6549
    gregor6549 27 October 2014 13: 36
    0
    An interesting machine was developed and manufactured by the Australian company Tomcar www.tomcar.com.au

    [media = http: /// tomcar-video-gallery]
  • bmv04636
    bmv04636 27 October 2014 13: 40
    +2

    Yes there was a time.
  • trophy
    trophy 27 October 2014 14: 37
    +1
    Amerovsky POLARIS (many are familiar with their quadras and snowmobiles) also practice work on this topic. In my opinion, the program is called POLARIS DEFENSE
  • trophy
    trophy 27 October 2014 14: 39
    +1
    More photos (just two fails)
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 27 October 2014 22: 12
      +1
      light tactical all terrain vehicle-Lightweight Tactical All Terrain Vehicle | LTATV)
      special operations forces use a 2-seater light tactical vehicle- (LTATV-2) and 4- LTATV-4 (4-seater)))) of the Afghan area, in a 2-seater Kawasaki LTATV.
      military versions: "Polaris MRZR" "Kawasaki Tyrex 750" ...

      2-seater Kawasaki Tyrex 750

      Polariz MRZR LTATV-2 on a Chinook helicopter
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 27 October 2014 23: 02
        +1
        ATVs "Polaris Sportsman XP 850" .... do not have any ballistic protection and, from mines or IEDs ...
        transported by "CH-47 Chinook" helicopters

        1. marshes
          marshes 27 October 2014 23: 14
          +1
          And then the NATO standards, on the next branch, they say pejoratively, It has long been clear that it is easier to air, art, spotters, in this way to throw behind enemy lines, though not "prepared".
          We could buy Chinese ATVs earlier, from 800 to 3000 Baku, to a vehicle, now the EAC. smile
  • bmv04636
    bmv04636 27 October 2014 15: 15
    +2
    When designing and issuing TK, our equipment should work from the desert (+50) to the artik (-50) and should also work in the mountains. "Light elves" do not mess with this, for each climatic zone they have a pile of equipment.
  • Razvedchik
    Razvedchik 27 October 2014 16: 45
    +3
    About the effectiveness of these "Makhnovist cabs" during WWII in Africa (allegedly 300 "units" and "messengers" of the LRDG were burned, and in Europe hundreds of FAU launchers) I am tormented by vague doubts. Something in Mellenthin and other Rommel's Teutons, I did not find a single line about this mad efficiency. Convoys with fuel and equipment, yes, they constantly mention it like that. And these Makhnovists not a word.
    And about the countries of the world riveting these tins, I think fashion. One clever () will do for himself and his climate, the rest from the pyramids to ice hummocks unite rivets analogues. For ours, they really need a hike from Tel Avivovka, they don’t give money for bullshit, but for the rest a big question?
    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 27 October 2014 20: 02
      0
      Quote: Razvedchik
      Something in Mellentin and other Rommel teutons I did not find a single line about this frantic efficiency.


      Who recognizes openly that the raiding sabotage units of the British SAS, disabled aircraft more than the British Air Force, for that period. Yes, and airfields in addition.

      For the first time, SAS used Willys equipped in a similar way during a raid on Bagush airfield on July 7, 1942 (the airfield is probably field and was designated so on tactical maps, the location of North Africa, presumably Libya or northwestern Egypt).
      The reason for this was the fact that the charges laid under the aircraft of the RDG SAS earlier worked only partially (out of 40 installed "Lewis bombs", half worked).
      The group’s commander Major David Sterling (the man who created the CAC from scratch) decided to take advantage of the commotion, panic and confusion (that is, to use the suddenness factor in his favor) that arose at the German airbase as a result of aircraft bombings to incapacitate this airbase for a long period.
      Moving along the runway, the three Willis crews fired heavy machine-gun fire on the move. The end result of this raid was 37 destroyed German aircraft of various types and the destruction of the airfield infrastructure.

      For your information:

      After receiving the rank of major in January 1942, Stirling vigorously pursued the expansion and reorganization of the SAS. Among other volunteers, he received 50 Free French paratroopers under the command of Captain Berger. In March, the Greek "Holy Squadron", formed from the officers of the Greek army who had escaped the German occupation, joined the detachment. They immediately began taking the SAS training course, which the French had just completed. In June 1941, another small unit entered SAS orbit. Special Interrogation Group (SIG). It consisted entirely of Germans - anti-fascists, mostly Jews of German origin, formed by Captain Buck. This group, trained to SAS standards, was fully equipped and clothed with captured German equipment. They spoke only German, had German documents and lived just like the employees of the German Afrika Korps (DAK).

      Source: http: //sas-sudak.io.ua/s71174/istoriya_sas
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 27 October 2014 22: 37
        +1
        light armed US Marine Corps jeep "M1161 Growler" - carries out anti-sabotage patrols and reconnaissance ...
        M1163 is a fire support system for a towed 120 mm mortar ....

        The M1161 has mounts for machine guns and grenade launchers such as the M240G M2 50 cal and MK19 ...
        size: 4.14 meters long, 1,5 meters wide and 1.84 meters high ..
        can be transported by an MV-22 Osprey tiltrotor

        1. marshes
          marshes 27 October 2014 22: 53
          +2
          Andrey, you can exhibit a lot of photos of "bourgeois" equipment. One fig, the ossified brain of the generals, cannot be broken.
          Ukraine showed mobile lightly armed equipment, armored personnel carriers MARPA, etc., needed at the beginning of the war and then Heavy, infantry fighting vehicles and so on.
          Those BMP and BMD, which are, sucks. So something new to think about.
          Cars are needed for two, maximum for four.
          1. cosmos111
            cosmos111 27 October 2014 23: 17
            +1
            Quote: marshes
            Andrey, you can exhibit a lot of photos of "bourgeois" equipment. One fig, the ossified brain of the generals, cannot be broken.
            Ukraine showed mobile lightly armed equipment, armored personnel carriers MARPA, etc., needed at the beginning of the war and then Heavy, infantry fighting vehicles and so on.
            Those bm


            Bolot agrees with you, this is the main problem ... in the Ruin, in my opinion, it is not analyzed at all in the military-industrial complex ...
            1. cosmos111
              cosmos111 27 October 2014 23: 37
              +1
              I’ll give an example of how the system is built, for the US special forces ... for armored cars and other mobile relations ...
              1.Ground Mobility Vehicle (GMV)
              modified HMMWV uses special forces ODAs and other ...
              2.Desert Patrol Vehicle
              light buggies ...
              3.Ranger Special Operations Vehicle (SOV)
              Land Rover 110 in versions ...
              4. Intermediate Fast Attack Vehicle (IFAV)
              Mercedes Benz wolf 290GD 4x4 used by the Marine Corps ...
              5.Motorcycles
              6.All Terrain Vehicle (ATV)
              4-wheel and 6-wheel ATVs ...
              7.Light-armored tactical cars 2-seater and 4-seater (LTATV) ...
              8.compact "Jeep" M1161 (((Light Strike Vehicle)))
              9. custom tactical vehicles (NSTV)
              use of various civilian vehicles ...
              10.Pinzgauer 6x6 ..
              11.LMTV specially prepared trucks ... etc.


              info s:http://www.americanspecialops.com/vehicles/
              1. marshes
                marshes 27 October 2014 23: 50
                0
                Quote: cosmos111
                I’ll give an example of how the system is built, for the US special forces ... for armored cars and other mobile relations ...

                We and you don’t have such a budget, we don’t print money. Damn the dollar and in Africa, the dollar. And with Mercedes the same garbage. smile
                Although, I heard somewhere that the elite really has it, and the helicopters along the Iroquois, by the way are completely new and not used, there are black hawks. Gloki-17 trees, and other weapons modifications, miniguns, etc. .
  • marshes
    marshes 27 October 2014 17: 57
    0
    From Niva you can "do" something.
    Look at the familiar Niva 1986, reworked. There is no roof, arcs. The awning can be pulled. Hunting from the "side", earlier from the Urals with a cradle, beat the game. golf 1 was redone, the same nimble.
    And I am in Suzuki escudo, Far East people know, I was traveling. It’s not convenient, the roof. The tarpaulin vitars didn’t come across. The meanness law was bought by Patrol, Nisanovsky, and a week later two tarpaulin vitars were announced in the ad.
    1. Massik
      Massik 27 October 2014 18: 27
      +2
      "Niva" is a good car, if it hadn't started to drive "aluminum" spare parts since 97 years. Let it break if you "tear" well, but you can also fix it on your knee. All modern "foreign countries" must already be taken to the service, you can pull the mechanics, but with the electronics, at least "guard" shout)))
      1. marshes
        marshes 27 October 2014 19: 13
        +1
        Quote: Marssik
        if only a year from 97

        Since '97, damn it rotting great. What they do in Uskaman is not bad, but yes there are a lot of electricians.
        The old carburetor, the most. It is just necessary to do under the realities of military life.
        On ball, grease guns return. The engine will go that there the fighting life is short.
        And the "foreign", is being repaired with a bang-old. In Germany there are quite a few firms, small of two or three, people who produce spare parts. smile , the leading, rubberized, pulley flew to Suzuki before the sale. I installed the Internet order myself, the engine is simple at least 16 valves, while there I was waiting for oil and oil seals on the camshaft, I changed the ethnic Kazakh, smile.
        Electronics, Christmas trees on the Internet have programs, diagnostic cords can be bought, although it is still necessary to keep Windu 98 and XP on the laptop, this is for old cars.
        1. Massik
          Massik 27 October 2014 19: 45
          +1
          Now even the "Nivovskie" bridges are bent in a year, without a "full butt drive" a person drove carefully, and all one bridge is kirdyk.
          Electronics, Christmas trees on the Internet have programs, diagnostic cords can be bought, although it is still necessary to keep Windu 98 and XP on the laptop, this is for old cars.
          Laptop with a car to carry?)
          1. marshes
            marshes 27 October 2014 20: 11
            0
            Quote: Marssik
            Now even the "Nivovskie" bridges are bent in a year, without a "full butt drive" a person drove carefully, and all one bridge is kirdyk.

            Oils TAD-17, the old fashioned way, was 92 years old. Although why the Vazovsky miracle was thrown to Uskaman, along the way from China app. parts. Familiar, so I met them, but hunting in Niva 2003, the Russian Federation, on the right wheel, the ball jumped out, the lower one was 8 months old. smile
            as well as VAZ bridges 80-100 thousand live. Suzuki-escudo year 1994 g-mileage 160 thousand, automatic transmission, interior and body in perfect condition by our standards, sold this winter, only changed what I listed. And took it when mileage was under 60 thousand in 2004. There are many electors but there were no problems, Conder, etc. ...
            Quote: Marssik
            Laptop with a car to carry?)

            Once a year, there’s enough to do a check, but there was a switch on Mazda 323’s father, the switch flew and then the ignition coil, combed out the switch from Gaz-31 for two days and put the coil, Gazelle.
            By the way, with the laptop, I’m in the car all the time, 4 LTE, before that 3 ji was a modem. smile
            Yes, and the navigator, navitel, in the car is updated. In the headrests Screens, the children watch. smile In short, there are a lot of modern fanfiles in the car. And it all works strangely.
  • cosmos111
    cosmos111 27 October 2014 20: 10
    +1
    for transport and rescue vehicles Rescue All Terrain vehicles (Rhett) is a specialized vehicle used by the Air Force to evacuate crews and wounded ....
    2 + 6 stretchers with wounded ...
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 27 October 2014 21: 51
      +2
      medical special armored car (MEDSOV), based on the "Land Rover Defender 110" ....
      crew: driver and 2-3 doctors ...
  • marshes
    marshes 27 October 2014 20: 45
    +1
    The brother-in-law, as part of a peacekeeping group in Africa, Sierra Leone, was there Gurkha airfield on land defrovers, covered with heavy machine guns and guarded as well as escorted on trips.
    I'll post the photo somehow. Somewhere on the optics.
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 27 October 2014 23: 51
      +1
      Quote: marshes
      Frieque, Sierra Leone, there was a Gurkha airfield on land rovers

      good armored car ... but mine protection is weak ..

      the British are gradually withdrawing them from the armed forces replacing ... Supacat "HMT 400 / Jackal" 4x4 and "HMT 600 / Coyote" 6x6 ...

      Land Rover (SOV)

      info s : http: //www.americanspecialops.com/vehicles/sov/
      1. marshes
        marshes 28 October 2014 00: 04
        0
        In principle, there were enough of them, though a lot of bridges were destroyed, the roads are blurred and the LADIES are wearing brunettes. Diamonds are the scourge of the country and now Ebola. Asshole ... Complete.
        Working transport Mi-8. smile Amer, in principle, is our army, Some modifications of the MI-24 are interesting for weapons in the arsenal, and so where will they get away from the NEEDLE, or others.
  • cosmos111
    cosmos111 28 October 2014 00: 19
    +1
    I’ll run a little along the military buggy .. and that's it for today ... the article only the first part ...

    military buggy "Chenowth"


    info s:http://vasili.io.ua/album630272_2
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 28 October 2014 00: 28
      0
      Bolivian military buggy "Kojak"


      info s:http://io.ua/25938886p
      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 28 October 2014 00: 38
        0
        Peruvian military buggy "VAT" (Vehículo de Ataque Todo))))

        info s: http://vasili.io.ua/album630272_2
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 28 October 2014 01: 14
          0
          American buggy "Chenowth"

          "Chenowth ALSV"


          info s : http: //io.ua/25938862
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  • cosmos111
    cosmos111 28 October 2014 00: 33
    0
    Cuban War Buggy

    info s:http://io.ua/25938902
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 28 October 2014 00: 54
      0
      Israeli light tactical armored car "Tomcar"


      info s:http://io.ua/25938894
  • cosmos111
    cosmos111 28 October 2014 00: 43
    0
    British light tactical armored car "Wessex Saker Mk II"



    info s:http://vasili.io.ua/album630272_2
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 28 October 2014 00: 48
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      2-seater British light tactical armored car "Wessex Saker Mk III" (Light Strike Vehicle (LSV)))

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      1. cosmos111
        cosmos111 28 October 2014 01: 06
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        Portuguese military buggy "Chenowth"


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  • cosmos111
    cosmos111 28 October 2014 01: 00
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    Iranian buggy "Asheda Nezaja" (Light Ranger Vehicle)

    "Samandar"

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  • Quadra
    Quadra 28 October 2014 17: 51
    +1
    I’ll add a little from myself, as I myself have been fond of jeep breeding, construction and tuning for more than 10 years, we can say the more or less well-known name in some environments. So almost everything that is 4x4 with an off-road orientation passed through my hands.
    Niva - I won't even talk about it especially, the only advantages are relatively low weight and availability of spare parts, plus cheapness. And so - the most terrible car in terms of quality and off-road endurance. Well, it’s just very, very tough. The famous "Nivovskaya cross-country ability" alas makes an impression only on people who have never driven a real prepared car. During pokatushek, he always hangs on a cable behind some Wrangler, Patrol or TLC ... Develops running skills, otherwise he will not pass ...
    UAZ - competently invented, but outdated, slightly less fragile than Niva, and with half of the idle units continues to move to the last. Army options on gear axles have a very good cross in a deep rut. Still, the problems with the low quality and dense structure - even riding a passenger - are very tiring, and it is hard work to drive. Due to the poor power supply, both Niva and UAZ are good on the plains or in the mountains, but when covered with good grip, they can crawl on a low end. If you just need to take a slippery climb - that's it, we’ve arrived, on the lower legs stands in place slowly turning the wheels, but for a quick ride up there is simply no power.
    Gelik is a civilian heavy and with a high center of gravity, with normal driving a strong healthy piece of iron, with aggressive and fast driving bends over the stockings of bridges. Spare parts are expensive, some repair work needs to be done only with the use of specialized equipment and technology, there is practically no tuning on it. The Wolf's army version is better, for it is lighter and stronger. It’s still expensive and you can’t fix it on the field. It also uses axles with wheel gears and is very not bad in the ruts. Like the civilian, the suspension moves are catastrophically small (which, incidentally, is also characteristic of the Niva - there are 6 cm in front (!!!)), but three locks somehow struggle with this.
    1. Hun
      Hun 31 October 2014 17: 25
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      Dear Quadra! Without irony ... You are special - no doubt! But, all that you wrote refers to civilian versions. Special military variants of vehicles of a slightly different level and technologies are used slightly different, taking into account the specifics ... Regards ...!
  • Quadra
    Quadra 28 October 2014 18: 06
    +1
    Toyota 70s are still produced for some markets and special tasks - they are very good-looking, strong and hardy especially in versions of Heavy Duty with axles with unloaded axles, but on weaker versions the indestructibility is due to weak engines. Put on its normal engine for the moment and immediately fly 8 inch diffs and handouts. Repair except for replacing pads and crosses in the field in the mud is problematic; special tools, including presses, are required.
    Patrols are good expeditionaries but not crooks at all - heavy and slow. During normal operation, they do not cause trouble, but with a sharp and aggressive driving, both frames and bodies burst, and cracks reach from the base of the body right up to the roof - oysters were eaten ...
    The buckets of all stripes are a mythical aggregate that turns out to be a sort of ersatz car, riding a life-size model. Along with very smart technical solutions, there is engineering (you can't call it anything else). The good thing is that in newer versions they are slowly getting rid of this (while doing other nonsense, however). In short, when looking outside and a cursory inspection gives the impression of a very solid unit, but when disassembling, I wonder what kind of tender soul there is ... Potemkin villages in the automobile version. In short, you need to drive thoughtfully and carefully, carefully, then you can understand that the machine has positive qualities in the form of exceptional articulation of bridges (in this regard, only the old CUCV with its springs curved in the opposite direction is better). Well, the ergonomic horror has not disappeared there, it has already become obsessed with Jyper jokes, plus the aluminum body cools faster than the tented UAZ in the lesser frost.
  • Quadra
    Quadra 28 October 2014 18: 20
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    Well, in the end, a little about American crooks - here once again you do not have to compare, there are very tenacious models, and there are greenhouse touches too, the path to which was ordered to heavy off-road. But the old ones are characterized by two main features - this is an engineering school in the study (visible in everything) and pragmatism. When repairing on the knee, whole units are changed completely and seamlessly, and easily it can be done up to the knee in the mud. Yes, it is more expensive than to change the bearing for $ 8, but there is not anything messes zhoporuky Niger and can be done in half an hour with two keys. And finally, here is a photo of a good car, hardy and cheap to operate - a kind of UAZ in the American manner.
    1. builder
      builder 28 October 2014 20: 21
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      What can you say about UAZ - a patriot?