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The public of the East Kazakhstan Region has addressed with an open letter concerning the "terry oppression of Russians on the basis of national sign"

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The public of the East Kazakhstan Region has addressed with an open letter concerning the "terry oppression of Russians on the basis of national sign"


Activists of the East Kazakhstan branch of the Republican Slavic Movement “Lad”, VKF “Russian Community of Kazakhstan” and others prepared an open letter in response to provocative publications about the situation of Russians and the state language in the region.

Public activists are outraged by the fact that they are trying to convince them that in Kazakhstan, and in their region, "double ethnic oppression" is flourishing.

“... We don’t need to convince us that the land, language and power have been unevenly divided in Kazakhstan. We all have the same rights here. And the state is not in the last place in the economy.

And most importantly, we live in harmony and unity, and if we have problems, then these are our internal family problems, and we will solve them ourselves. Without your advice, "they write in a letter to a certain Russian journalist.

Below is the full text of the open letter.

Open letter

LOOK FOR WHOM IT IS PROFITABLE!

It has recently become strange and unpleasant to see publications of a clearly provocative nature on the Internet, addressed to the residents of Kazakhstan. Like, have you seen what is happening in the world: separatists, military operations in residential areas? You are next! And our "friends" because of the cordon no longer disdain any methods, trying to "shake" the public.

In recent months, correspondents of Western and pro-Western media have been frequenting our East Kazakhstan in recent months, who by hook or by crook are trying to convince ourselves that in Kazakhstan, and in our region, "full-scale oppression on the basis of ethnicity" is flourishing.

They rush around the city, sniff out, inquire, pry, - in a word, they collect "material" ...
Recently, the correspondent Ilya Azar came to Ust-Kamenogorsk, looking for a meeting with us. Okay, met.

At our meeting, he asked about the situation of Russians, about the state language. We told him in detail about the Russians in Kazakhstan, about our common stories, about the role of the state language, about how we all live in our country.

But when we read his article “Ust-Kamenogorsk People's Republic. Whether Russians are waiting for "polite people" in Kazakhstan: a report by Ilya Azar ", we were puzzled. To put it mildly...

It’s necessary to turn everything upside down.

What struck us the most was not even this journalistic impudence, with which some Russian chauvinists were made of us, but the reporting bias, caustic hatred for our country, for the Kazakh people.

Now we sit and think - what was he trying to get from us?

So that we ourselves should destroy that, thanks to which we live peacefully and calmly in Kazakhstan? Do we look like suicides, or do we have a diagnosis - maydaun ???
Responsibly we want to declare that the revelation he wrote is a provocation and forgery. A mixture of fabrications, conjectures and lies!

Ilya, disrespected from now on by us! We do not need to convince us that the land, language and power have been unevenly divided in Kazakhstan. We all have the same rights here. And the state is not in the last place in the economy.

And most importantly, we live in harmony and unity, and if we have problems, then these are our internal family problems, and we ourselves will solve them. Without your advice.

There have never been conflicts on interethnic grounds in our land. And it won't. Because there is no reason for this.

Maybe that's why the visiting "well-wishers" are trying.

“You are forced to learn the Kazakh language!” They shout.

There is no coercion, and every country has the right to have its own state language, and knowing it is a matter of conscience and dignity of a citizen. At the same time, the Russian language is the language of interethnic communication, and no one feels any discrimination in this regard. And with Russian schools everything is in order. We have 45 schools in the city. Of these, 19 with Russian as the language of instruction, 8 with Kazakh, the rest are mixed. And we send our children to Kazakh schools not under compulsion, but in a clear mind and firm memory. Because we live together with the Kazakhs. One destiny.

And in the maslikhat of the city more than half of the deputies are Russians, there are many Russians among the heads of institutions and enterprises.

We understand well whose interests such provocative conversations are in. We think Ilya also knows that his material is not an expression of the position of the Russians of Kazakhstan, but an ordered “pushing through” an ideology that is alien and alien to us. And these "ears stick out" in every line of this libel!

We declare unequivocally that Azar's article is a foreign attempt to incite interethnic strife, to push the Russians and Kazakhs together.

We believe that our respective authorities should assess it. Encroachments on the peace and territorial integrity of Kazakhstan are unambiguously criminal.

Now about Ukraine. Do you think the East Kazakhstanis were not concerned about the situation in Ukraine? Of course, we are worried about our relatives, friends, just for those people who live on a land blazing with strife.

We are Kazakhstanis. Yes, there are Russians, Germans, Ukrainians, Georgians among us ... representatives of more than 100 different nationalities. But we live according to the principle of one people - one country - one destiny.

We, the Russians of Kazakhstan, respect our Kazakh brothers, who have united so many different nationalities, and help us preserve our languages ​​and cultures, and just human relations. We were the first in Kazakhstan to open the House of Friendship, built a unique ethnic village.
And from the fact that they are trying to intimidate or confuse us, we only hold hands tighter.
We firmly say that neither Azaram nor the slippery Medusa will embroil us.
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  1. The comment was deleted.
    1. Mirth
      Mirth 25 October 2014 14: 25
      +2
      Did you read the article at all, or just to blurt out the first comment?
      1. Lone wolf
        Lone wolf 25 October 2014 17: 46
        -1
        Have you read the article yourself, Mr. TN?
      2. Pervusha Isaev
        Pervusha Isaev 25 October 2014 17: 54
        +5
        the fact that the incitement of ethnic conflicts in Kazakhstan is a provocation from abroad, perhaps I will believe that mostly Russians and Kazakhs did not quarrel much, mostly everyday life, so no one needs the second zone of atoms ...
        1. matross
          matross 25 October 2014 18: 17
          +4
          Refutation letters are also needed. But they could have filed a lawsuit against the journalist. In Kazakhstan, by the way, there is an article "for incitement", who knows?
          1. Kassandra
            Kassandra 25 October 2014 21: 32
            +2
            there is Zhanaozen in Kazakhstan ...
  2. Giant thought
    Giant thought 25 October 2014 14: 20
    +24
    The best option for all peoples, including Kazakhstan, is to live in friendship and peace, and no one can ever refute this.
    1. Federal
      Federal 25 October 2014 14: 31
      +9
      Quote: Giant thought
      The best option for all peoples, including Kazakhstan, is to live in friendship and peace, and no one can ever refute this.

      You said very precisely.
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    2. 12423 student
      12423 student 25 October 2014 14: 50
      +12
      And most importantly, we live in harmony and unity
      Who saw in Kazakhstan a Russian employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, traffic police, customs?
      I did not see.
      In Oskemen (this is now the name of Ust-Kamenogorsk), Russians are everywhere, it seems that you have not left Russia.
      1. 23 region
        23 region 25 October 2014 15: 11
        +23
        Quote: student 12423
        Who has seen a Russian employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, traffic police, customs in Kazakhstan? I have not.

        The official position again boils down to the fact that purely economic problems are forcing Russian-speakers (and many Kazakhs too) to leave Kazakhstan. "Nobody is pushing Russians into the car," officials say. "Besides," they say, "you can't deny the Russians, Ukrainians, and Germans the right to live in their historical homeland." It is difficult to disagree with this. It turns out, however, that love for the historical homeland and obvious economic problems are only part of the truth. In Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and other CIS countries, the economic situation is by no means better. Those leaving Kazakhstan are well aware of the fact that they are not very much expected in their historical homeland. Nevertheless, few people are deterred by this.

        Opinion polls show that people motivate their difficult decision to leave their homeland - Kazakhstan - not only for economic, but also for political reasons. They do not see the prospects for a normal life and career for their children in the conditions of the dominance of the "titular" nation in all spheres of society; they are afraid of being second-class citizens with all the ensuing consequences.

        Ordinary people say frankly:
        … The policy of advantages for the indigenous nationality is intimidating. Who is doing good leadership jobs now? Not content with his position, is he trying to push a relative or acquaintance to the same prestigious place? And representatives of other nationalities in most cases cannot move up the career ladder.
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 25 October 2014 17: 02
          0
          Quote: 23 region
          Quote: student 12423
          Who has seen a Russian employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, traffic police, customs in Kazakhstan? I have not.

          The official position again boils down to the fact that purely economic problems are forcing Russian-speakers (and many Kazakhs too) to leave Kazakhstan. "Nobody is pushing Russians into the car," officials say. "Besides," they say, "you can't deny the Russians, Ukrainians, and Germans the right to live in their historical homeland." It is difficult to disagree with this. It turns out, however, that love for the historical homeland and obvious economic problems are only part of the truth. In Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and other CIS countries, the economic situation is by no means better. Those leaving Kazakhstan are well aware of the fact that they are not very much expected in their historical homeland. Nevertheless, few people are deterred by this.

          Opinion polls show that people motivate their difficult decision to leave their homeland - Kazakhstan - not only for economic, but also for political reasons. They do not see the prospects for a normal life and career for their children in the conditions of the dominance of the "titular" nation in all spheres of society; they are afraid of being second-class citizens with all the ensuing consequences.

          Ordinary people say frankly:
          … The policy of advantages for the indigenous nationality is intimidating. Who is doing good leadership jobs now? Not content with his position, is he trying to push a relative or acquaintance to the same prestigious place? And representatives of other nationalities in most cases cannot move up the career ladder.

          The East is a delicate matter. It seems to me that people still remember the events in Alma-Ata in 1986, due to the notorious "Russification" by the Soviet regime. recourse
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 25 October 2014 17: 36
            -1
            Quote: sgazeev
            Me it seems,what

            If it seems - cross yourself!
        2. copper49
          copper49 25 October 2014 20: 51
          +7
          I myself am Ust-Kamenogorets, I support the author. Yes, the Russians are clearly not being squeezed, but they were squeezed out of control. In the local parliament, yes. half of the Russians, only he has no power. And in the power structures - all 100% of the indigenous people. Russian-speaking youth left and is leaving for Russia in all respects: my children, almost all the children of my friends, a lot of young fellow workers are already in Russia. There is no reason for the revolt: the Russians, on average, earn even more than the indigenous people. since educational level, and higher qualifications in technical matters. But what is called "does not shine" here is not for Kazakhs. At the time of the collapse of the USSR, there were 5 percent of the indigenous population in the city, and now it is almost half. Most of the villages have come in large numbers. Instead of the non-indigenous who left. Normal people, often much more affable and polite than their hares. There is absolutely no intention to fight. But it became uncomfortable - that's a fact.
          1. Kassandra
            Kassandra 25 October 2014 21: 16
            +3
            half of Kazakhstan is the Russian Siberia cut to it by the communists, the Cossack lands. all this, as with Ukraine, was planned back then ...
            the strife specifically began when the Khrushchev from China resettled the local "black" Kazakhs, who are mostly nationalists, and behaved and behave badly.
            1. zennon
              zennon 26 October 2014 00: 13
              0
              Quote: Kassandra
              half of Kazakhstan is the Russian Siberia cut to it by the communists, the Cossack lands. all this, as with Ukraine, was planned back then ...

              The state criminal Ulyanov (rattle-lenin) screwed up. We will always remember this bastard. Here is what Solzhenitsin wrote about this in 1990:
              “Today's vast territory was cut by the communists without reason, as if they got there: if where nomadic herds pass once a year, then Kazakhstan too ... Yes, until 1936, Kazakhstan was still considered an autonomous republic in the RSFSR, then it was elevated to a union republic. And it was made up - from southern Siberia, southern Urals, and deserted central spaces, since then transformed and rebuilt - by Russians, prisoners and exiled peoples. And today, in all bloated Kazakhstan, there are noticeably less than half of Kazakhs. Their raft, their stable domestic part is a large southern arc of the regions, covering from the extreme east to the west almost to the Caspian Sea, in fact, inhabited mainly by Kazakhs. And if in this scope they want to separate, then with God. "
        3. dilyanna
          dilyanna 25 October 2014 23: 55
          0
          thanks, all to the point ...
          I hope that the national passions have not subsided much, the boom is passing ...
          Indeed, the future is scary when the president is replaced ...
          As well as the fact that we learn to adapt, so the children will have to ...
          As a fallback, we and our friends have plans to go straight to the historical homeland.
          It never occurred to anyone to "win something" if something happened, not ours ... but the mood of the nationalists diminished our chuv.patriotism towards Kazakhstan and forwarded towards Russia.
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      3. Walking
        Walking 25 October 2014 18: 06
        +5
        Quote: student 12423
        And most importantly, we live in harmony and unity
        Who saw in Kazakhstan a Russian employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, traffic police, customs?
        I did not see.
        In Oskemen (this is now the name of Ust-Kamenogorsk), Russians are everywhere, it seems that you have not left Russia.


        I have not only seen but also serve myself.
        1. 12423 student
          12423 student 26 October 2014 14: 48
          +1
          Quote: Hiking


          I have not only seen but also serve myself.


          It means that I am not so attentive. Can't you tell me approximately what percentage of the employees are Russian?
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    4. Lelek
      Lelek 25 October 2014 23: 02
      +2
      Quote: Thought Giant
      The best option for all peoples, including Kazakhstan, is to live in friendship and peace, and no one can ever refute this



      This is true, but it can be seen that someone is itching to "swing" Kazakhstan according to the Ukrainian pattern. Who could it be? what
  3. fox21h
    fox21h 25 October 2014 14: 24
    +14
    And what does it have to do with it or not, the paw of the mattress makers (meaning not only the endos, but also the Naglo-Saxons) is visible even with the naked eye, they ruled the colonies like this throughout history, creating enmity between their own (the motto divide and rule is more relevant than ever), and we are led to this, the blessing of the traitors and sang along, and there are just enough fools.
    1. Talgat
      Talgat 25 October 2014 15: 30
      +6
      Western opponents of integration into the Eurasian Union will definitely sow discord. But they will not succeed for the simple reason that the majority of Russians and Kazakhs both in the Russian Federation and in our country are reasonable and adequate people, and it is already clear that they are not being conducted (the latest polls are encore at least)

      Just in the next article I mentioned that Gumilev also wrote about the complementarity of our peoples and more than a thousand years of experience of living together.
    2. Kassandra
      Kassandra 25 October 2014 21: 10
      +1
      they also supplied and organized the Kazakh rebellion of 1916, "allies", put their feet in their mouths, according to WWI ...
  4. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 25 October 2014 14: 29
    +13
    Of course, it would be nice if Kazakhstan and Russia would be one country. It would be much better and easier for us. But it is impermissible to incite hostility between our fraternal peoples. This should be severely punished. This is not why our fathers and grandfathers fought side by side. soldier drinks Our peoples must live in friendship and harmony. good
    1. Viktor Kudinov
      Viktor Kudinov 25 October 2014 16: 41
      +5
      We have a lot in common with the Kazakhs. Russians live in Kazakhstan, and many Kazakhs live in Russia. We are neighbours. And neighbors, often, are even closer to relatives. And the journalist who wrote the provocation is Judas. And God forbid - the thirty pieces of silver he received for this will go sideways. negative
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev 25 October 2014 17: 07
        +2
        Quote: Victor Kudinov
        We have a lot in common with the Kazakhs. Russians live in Kazakhstan, and many Kazakhs live in Russia. We are neighbours. And neighbors, often, are even closer to relatives. And the journalist who wrote the provocation is Judas. And God forbid - the thirty pieces of silver he received for this will go sideways. negative

        Scratch Azar, you will find x ....... recourse
  5. Abbra
    Abbra 25 October 2014 14: 29
    +6
    I don't know about Kazakhstan in general, but I have a lot of friends in Petropavlovsk. Everything is normal there, and the attitude of Kazakhs to Russians and vice versa is also.
  6. wulf66
    wulf66 25 October 2014 14: 31
    +9
    In the photo Ilya Azar. Heroes should be known by sight. So as not to accidentally miss when distributing ... I have an army friend living in Astana, Russian, Russian wife. And my daughter studies in a Russian school and wins at the olympiads in the Kazakh language (in azar, apparently she learns the language from under the stick ...)
    1. little thing
      little thing 25 October 2014 14: 56
      +12
      But this is a Jew !!! Only the Jews sow discord, ethnic provocations and conflicts! What the Jews have done in Ukraine, they want to arrange in other CIS countries, and in other countries of the world!
      1. ia-ai00
        ia-ai00 25 October 2014 15: 01
        +4
        They took it off the tongue. It is they, the Jews all over the world who are organizing "revolutions". Better to arrange a Maidan in Israel.
      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 25 October 2014 17: 09
        +2
        Quote: thing
        But this is a Jew !!! Only the Jews sow discord, ethnic provocations and conflicts! What the Jews have done in Ukraine, they want to arrange in other CIS countries, and in other countries of the world!

        Besides "dandruff". wassat
      3. wulf66
        wulf66 26 October 2014 00: 31
        +2
        I strongly disagree with you! I have Jewish friends, hard workers. And Ilya Azar is F, I, D. And trust me, it makes a huge difference.
  7. Dezinto
    Dezinto 25 October 2014 14: 35
    +1
    There is such a building in Astana ...
    1. Zymran
      Zymran 25 October 2014 14: 39
      +1
      US Embassy so what?
      1. Barsik
        Barsik 25 October 2014 17: 38
        +2
        US Embassy so what?

        Drive out the tenants and change the flag, otherwise the whole view spoils am
  8. Zymran
    Zymran 25 October 2014 14: 35
    -10
    Very funny. They themselves gave an interview to Azar, and the West was to blame for this. laughing
    1. AQUARIUS 65
      AQUARIUS 65 25 October 2014 17: 02
      0
      Zymran
      Very funny. They themselves gave an interview to Azar, and the West was to blame for this.

      The article must be read carefully, dear "general" and then they will not minus.
      1. Zymran
        Zymran 25 October 2014 17: 33
        +1
        Comrade Major General, it's obvious. When we gave an interview to the journalist, they spoke sincerely, a scandal arose - they changed their shoes instantly.
        By the way, I don't see anything like that in the article, because I know perfectly well the mood of the Russians in the East Kazakhstan region firsthand.
        1. AstanaKZ
          AstanaKZ 25 October 2014 18: 35
          -5
          Anecdote: - "Fima, you know I try to speak less Russian ..."
          - "What is it, are you afraid that the Ukrainians will beat you?"
          - "No, I'm afraid the Russians will come to save me ..."
  9. Sergey Medvedev
    Sergey Medvedev 25 October 2014 14: 37
    +2
    Peace in Kazakhstan must be protected, of course. But not at the cost of giving up their rights. My brother-in-law left Kazakhstan for Russia with his whole family in the 90s. There are many reasons. And economic advantages in Russia and harassment from the authorities. For example, the abolition of the compulsory study of the Russian language at school, the replacement with permission to study the native language as an optional extra. And this is in the Russian village of Volchanka, Shemonaikhinsky district of the East Kazakhstan region. So, not everything is going smoothly in the Republic of Kazakhstan.
    1. Zymran
      Zymran 25 October 2014 15: 06
      +6
      Quote: Sergei Medvedev
      For example, the abolition of the compulsory study of the Russian language at school, the replacement with permission to study the native language as an optional extra.


      Nonsense. Russian is compulsory for studying in all schools now, and even more so in the 90s.
      1. Walking
        Walking 25 October 2014 18: 09
        +2
        The Russian language has not been abolished in schools.
      2. dilyanna
        dilyanna 26 October 2014 00: 08
        0
        can proceed as an isolated case if it was carried out experimentally ... but I don’t remember anyone saying something like that ...
        In the 90s they lived harmoniously, as the crisis began in the last 3-4 years, so the topic of nationalism began to grow ... and the squeezing out of the Russian language was imperceptibly proceeding. from an average and status environment, go to any company - large, such as a central bank, a bank, a tax, communications ... all employees of a tit.nation.
    2. kuz363
      kuz363 27 October 2014 06: 05
      +1
      Yes, bullshit about canceling the study of the Russian language at school. Maybe it was a Kazakh school, where teaching is carried out in the Kazakh language? To be honest, I don’t know if Russian is studied there like other foreigners? And at my work with an oil company and at home, there are no problems in communicating in Russian. Yes, at work, Kazakh language courses were organized, taught during working hours for 1 hour twice a week. It was a common language (not technical) for communication. Greetings, days of the week, seasons, numbers, product names, and more. What are the traditions when celebrating weddings, birthdays and much more. In early June, exams were held, although they did not affect either the salary or the positions. In the summer there was a break from classes, and in the fall again. During the summer alone, part of what I had learned was forgotten. Not everyone has the ability to learn languages. Production meetings and selectors were conducted in Russian, although most of the technical specialists were Kazakh. The office work was carried out in two languages. There was a paradox with the translation of technical letters into Kazakh. Our Kazakh technicians were often unable to do this. Then I had to introduce the positions of engineers-translators, so they were sent for translation.
  10. 23 region
    23 region 25 October 2014 14: 38
    +3
    There have never been conflicts on interethnic grounds in our land. And it won't. Because there is no reason for this.

    The first interethnic conflicts of the 70s and 80s were associated with a demographic boom among Kazakhs, which sharply intensified competition in the labor and housing market in the republic between predominantly rural ethnic Kazakhs and an urbanized non-Kazakh population. Most of the conflicts took place in the spring or fall. Most of the rioters were young ethnic Kazakhs, Kazakh students, and also part of the nationalist-minded intelligentsia. While the first conflicts were anti-German (1979) or anti-Russian (1986), the last outbreaks of violence (after 1992) were directed mainly against representatives of other Asian and / or Muslim minorities in the country (Kurds, Chechens, Lezgins, Avars, Dargins, Turks , Uighurs). The shift in ethnic orientation is associated with a sharp decrease in the proportion and number of Russians and Germans in the country after 1990 due to emigration and natural attrition.
    Considering the disproportionate representation of Kazakhs in the state structures of Kazakhstan since the 60s of the XX century, interethnic problems in the republic have actually been taboo, therefore, it is not accepted to discuss them, seek solutions and draw conclusions based on what happened at the state level.
  11. Alexey M
    Alexey M 25 October 2014 14: 39
    +1
    So the Kazakhs began to stir. Pravilno someone needs to be the first to cling to the trough.
  12. Patriot.ru.
    Patriot.ru. 25 October 2014 14: 40
    +1
    This EKR has a trembling voice, or they are afraid to tell the truth, or Russians are not allowed into the EKR.
  13. VOLOD
    VOLOD 25 October 2014 14: 40
    +10
    I am a resident of this very Eastern Kazakhstan. I fully support the article.
    and I trust the Kazakhs. I am for peace and friendship. and self-determination of peoples. and very much against those. who climbs with his snout into our Kalashny row.
  14. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 25 October 2014 14: 41
    +11
    These "friends" from overseas and from across the ocean have been cultivating the inhabitants of Kazakhstan for more than one year. They tell the Kazakhs that the Russians are occupiers, the Russians that they are terribly oppressed ...
    They, "friends", have passion as they would like in Kazakhstan to light a "spark" so that the flame would kindle, in Maidanovski way. They do not feel comfortable that peoples peacefully coexist in Kazakhstan - GADA!
  15. VOLOD
    VOLOD 25 October 2014 14: 42
    +1
    already the word p-os is being censored
    what
    1. northern
      northern 25 October 2014 15: 10
      +4
      "pindoc"? you just cook it wrong :-)
  16. SmolNik
    SmolNik 25 October 2014 14: 42
    -2
    And lovers of fishing on about. Aleksandrovskoe will always poop under a banner - eternal memory.
  17. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 October 2014 14: 43
    +2
    Russians are still active people. Harassment will not be tolerated. And the Kazakhs were not distinguished by radical Islamism either. But you still need to be attentive to the slightest manifestations of nationalism. This is a very destructive force. Capable of destroying the country in a short time.
  18. prishelec
    prishelec 25 October 2014 14: 50
    +2
    Provocateurs must be burned! am
  19. nablydatel
    nablydatel 25 October 2014 14: 56
    +4
    I live in Kazakhstan but have never seen ethnic strife. yes, there are internecine clashes over a dump in bars, etc. but showdowns
    there are only bar stupidly ----- you touched me. well, fists itch and that's it
    but to have utterances on an ethnic piva I have not met such a thing.
    provocateurs to lustration Ukrainian in our trash heaps. hi
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    2. dilyanna
      dilyanna 26 October 2014 00: 24
      0
      these topics are quickly "hid", the "necessary" people come, although topics slip through the media ...
      in Taraz there was a case, 2 Russian families "interfered" with the car ... here in Almaty ....

      There is also a separate topic that many are themselves unhappy with what is in the book:
      there were times when the Kazakh taxi drivers themselves carried a "blizzard", it was still not clear whether the provocateurs or were really dissatisfied with something, then the Nogais should be separated, then what else ... we skillfully avoided the topic, now it is definitely not our business
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  22. Iline
    Iline 25 October 2014 15: 23
    0
    People are like people. And let them not interfere with their peaceful life. [Media = http: //www.odnoklassniki.ru/video/6089803010? FromTime = 213]
  23. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 25 October 2014 15: 58
    +2
    You need to be friends with everyone, all people are brothers, perhaps with one exception, the Anglo-Saxons, because someone else from the greats said "God forbid having England as friends, with such a friend you don't need enemies", I can't vouch for the authenticity of the phrase, but the meaning just like that.
    1. Tor hummer
      Tor hummer 25 October 2014 16: 34
      0
      Your statements are drawn to article 282, on inciting ethnic hatred in relation to the social group "Anglo-Saxons".
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 25 October 2014 17: 51
        0
        Quote: Tor Hummer
        pull on article 282, on inciting ethnic hatred in relation to the social group "Anglo-Saxons".

        Explain your idea that the "Anglo-Saxons" you named are social category.
        SOCIAL CATEGORY - A gathering of people who are united together based on social criteria, but do not form a group or organization, for example, teenagers, high school teachers, unemployed ... http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/socio/3791/SOCIAL
        What's this? Category of people sucking off the Anglo-Saxons?
      2. Kassandra
        Kassandra 25 October 2014 21: 24
        0
        fit in for these scoundrels? well, please complain to him at the UN ...
  24. viruvalge412ee
    viruvalge412ee 25 October 2014 16: 19
    0
    Dull liquid mattresses are as dull as the poor bulk of the natskazakhs. How can one script be distributed to all !? The Uzbeks are next!? ... or the Leningrad region !?
  25. siberalt
    siberalt 25 October 2014 16: 45
    0
    As long as there is VKO, we will have vodka at half price good Now there is no nationalism. But Russians are not allowed into the governing bodies and authorities. Do you need it?
    1. Kassandra
      Kassandra 25 October 2014 21: 27
      +1
      They are not allowed in Russia either, but is it necessary? or there must be a very righteous wife ...
      with those Kazakhs who are in power in Kazakhstan in general as well, but Russians will not be allowed into power there, even with a true wife ...
      and almost the same in Tatarstan.
  26. BONEVYR
    BONEVYR 25 October 2014 16: 52
    +6
    Many statements and publications do not reveal half of the truth, at the state level no one oppresses the Russian-speaking population, and if at the everyday level, then everywhere in Kazakhstan, the Russian-speaking population is treated with aggression and statements like this "Soon the Orys (Russians), we will squeeze you out, and your the acquired property will remain with us and we will take everything away from you. " I am writing this because I myself have lived in Kazakhstan for 25 years, and left with my family for Russia, since I do not see a future in the country of Kazakhstan for my children.
  27. vladsolo56
    vladsolo56 25 October 2014 17: 09
    +9
    I want to note that no one will ever write the truth officially, it is one thing to speak at home, another in the media. I was born and raised in Ust-Kamenogorsk, five -6 generations of my ancestors were born on this land. And after the collapse of the USSR, I turned out to be not a titular nation, in fact an alien, a stranger. Of course, we were not openly humiliated or oppressed, but when there was a restriction of professions without knowing the state language where you will not be accepted, this is already discrimination. At first, the office work was carried out in two languages, now strictly in one, I was still working in 2000 already offered to hire translators for companies with Russian personnel. The fact that 90% of officials and 100% of state leaders are Kazakhs is no secret. The fact that they lived together, and so it was, but as everyone remembers in 86 in Alma-Ata, a youth riot directed against the Russians. Of course, the spearhead is directed at power, but in essence it was an anti-Russian revolt. This I just mean that there is no idyll, although of course there is no confrontation. How it will be further depends only on the authorities in Kazakhstan. Many say that Nazarbayev will leave, and everything can change dramatically.
  28. Barboss_kinn
    Barboss_kinn 25 October 2014 17: 14
    +5
    I believe that everyone should live in peace and friendship, and then everything will be fine and even better, but this is the ideal. It was in the mid-90s. I lived just in East Kazakhstan region and we had Kazakh neighbors, they moved from Semipalatinsk. Well, and so, a young neighbor walked around with his heel in the chest: You Russians, go to your Russia, and we ourselves will live. and if anything, then we can kick it out ... Well, stuff like that. In the late 90s, we moved to Siberia. Those who say that no one is expected here are not quite right, they accepted and helped, the main thing is not to sit idly by. And just recently, a year ago, I met this "terry nationalist" in our market - he works as a janitor. He stood and looked ... Yes, I think they seem to live well in their homeland ...
  29. pahom54
    pahom54 25 October 2014 17: 56
    +4
    I didn't put any plus or minus to the article ... Each has its own truth ...
    Here in our town there are enough arrivals from Kazakhstan who wish (or have already received) Russian citizenship. However, no one talks about the horrors of oppression, they left for the reason that it became uncomfortable to live. The concept of "comfort" is different for everyone - here is the state of mind, but here is the material state and much more ...
    But my classmate, a native of the city of Krasnodar, Russian, remained after military service in Kazakhstan and is not going to leave for Russia. He feels good there.
    For this reason, I believe that fanning the topic of existing or perceived oppression of Russians is playing against both Russians and Kazakhs.
    And it is rightly said in the article: look for WHOM IT IS FAVORABLE, and beat on the ears ...
    1. AstanaKZ
      AstanaKZ 25 October 2014 18: 39
      0
      "Vasilenko & Co" knows better where it is inflated and where it is oppressed - he is here the main expert on interethnic issues in the Republic of Kazakhstan!
  30. 23424636
    23424636 25 October 2014 18: 54
    0
    we have a difference from the Kazakhs: they have houses without a roof - or rather, there is a roof, but not our two-slope roof. and flat at the level of the walls is like a monument without a statue, one pedestal And as Almaty becomes Faithful, the Kazakhs will stop blunting and surrender to the Chinese.
    1. Aydar
      Aydar 27 October 2014 06: 21
      -1
      we have a difference from the Kazakhs: they have houses without a roof - or rather, there is a roof, but not our two-slope roof. and flat at the level of the walls is like a monument without a statue, one pedestal And as Almaty becomes Faithful, the Kazakhs will stop blunting and surrender to the Chinese.

      Diagnosis: phimosis of the brain.
      1. Kassandra
        Kassandra 28 October 2014 21: 21
        0
        are you a psychiatrist or are you not yet 13?
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  31. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 25 October 2014 21: 37
    0
    <<< We declare unequivocally that Azar's article is a foreign attempt to incite interethnic strife, to push the Russians and Kazakhs together. >>>
    All this impudent Saxon globalist spares no effort and resources to create tension and chaos on the borders of Russia, and then in Russia itself, and the main direction here is inciting interethnic and interfaith hatred until it turns into hatred like the Bandera bacchanalia that is happening today in Ukraine, and before that in other "hot" spots! Western crap has a lot of experience in such matters! But today it is becoming more and more difficult to do this, since the common people see, using the example of Ukraine and other countries, where the incitement of hatred in society leads, no matter under what good slogans it is carried out!
  32. Victor-M
    Victor-M 25 October 2014 23: 59
    0
    In recent months, correspondents of Western and pro-Western media have been frequenting our East Kazakhstan in recent months, who by hook or by crook are trying to convince ourselves that in Kazakhstan, and in our region, "full-scale oppression on the basis of ethnicity" is flourishing.

    They rush around the city, sniff out, inquire, pry, - in a word, they collect "material" ...
    Recently, the correspondent Ilya Azar came to Ust-Kamenogorsk, looking for a meeting with us. Okay, met.

    At our meeting, he asked about the situation of Russians, about the state language. We told him in detail about Russians in Kazakhstan, about our common history, about the role of the state language, about how we all live in our country.

    But when we read his article “Ust-Kamenogorsk People's Republic. Whether Russians are waiting for "polite people" in Kazakhstan: a report by Ilya Azar ", we were puzzled. To put it mildly...

    It’s necessary to turn everything upside down.


    What is the conclusion? Talk less, especially with Western journalists, who have not been them for a long time, but represent one of the NATO affiliates on information warfare, i.e. Our enemy is with you, and we, in turn, expecting understanding and compassion from them, try to pour out everything in our hearts. No need, because apart from spitting in our souls, we will receive nothing from them.
  33. xruss
    xruss 26 October 2014 10: 16
    0
    Quote: 23 region
    Quote: student 12423
    Who has seen a Russian employee of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, traffic police, customs in Kazakhstan? I have not.

    The official position again boils down to the fact that purely economic problems are forcing Russian-speakers (and many Kazakhs too) to leave Kazakhstan. "Nobody is pushing Russians into the car," officials say. "Besides," they say, "you can't deny the Russians, Ukrainians, and Germans the right to live in their historical homeland." It is difficult to disagree with this. It turns out, however, that love for the historical homeland and obvious economic problems are only part of the truth. In Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and other CIS countries, the economic situation is by no means better. Those leaving Kazakhstan are well aware of the fact that they are not very much expected in their historical homeland. Nevertheless, few people are deterred by this.

    Opinion polls show that people motivate their difficult decision to leave their homeland - Kazakhstan - not only for economic, but also for political reasons. They do not see the prospects for a normal life and career for their children in the conditions of the dominance of the "titular" nation in all spheres of society; they are afraid of being second-class citizens with all the ensuing consequences.

    Ordinary people say frankly:
    … The policy of advantages for the indigenous nationality is intimidating. Who is doing good leadership jobs now? Not content with his position, is he trying to push a relative or acquaintance to the same prestigious place? And representatives of other nationalities in most cases cannot move up the career ladder.

    This happens often, at least in the South.
  34. Tima
    Tima 26 October 2014 12: 21
    0
    Russia has only the Volga-Mother and Amur-Father from relatives, and she has no brothers and sisters ... and Thank God.
    And the fraternal Union of free republics - to the dump!
  35. Pokalchuk
    Pokalchuk 26 October 2014 15: 37
    +1
    Reference: Ilya Azar, an ethnic Jew, correspondent of either "Dozhd", or "Echo of Moscow" and other similar groups, I remember for his ambiguous, if not provocative, reports from Crimea while "polite people" were standing there. However, his texts were quite cautious (he had seen enough of people with weapons!), And he cannot be denied the talent of a journalist.
    That makes it more dangerous. He is not any patriot of Russia.
  36. Naiman
    Naiman 26 October 2014 16: 31
    +2
    I live in Ust-Kamenogorsk. Kazakh, married to a Russian. I will say this, everything is decided by money. Those who leave young with children count on maternity capital in Russia and your programs to support compatriots. In fact, enough for them to get a mortgage. For free calculation, here in Kazakhstan they give birth to one or two, then they came to their homeland, there immediately the third and the wife may not work, the first year, sits on the maternity capital.
    But there are those who earn money, their own business. It's easier to build a business here, in Kazakhstan. There are many Russians who work in private business. Well, experience there, literacy and stuff. I am here for the hands that a professional in his field - a rich man should be essentially. They are not going to leave Kazakhstan yet. An alternate airfield, of course, is supposed to have, for example, in Omsk or Novosibirsk. They buy apartments there. Only now I want to ask, are there few Russians like that in Russia? Those who live in Crete, or buy an apartment in the Czech Republic? A?
    Now, due to the fact that there are only Kazakhs in the bosses. Well, you can't argue, half of the Kazakhs are in the chiefs (strange, yes ???? In Russia, there would be fewer in the chiefs of Russians. I am silent about Chechnya, yes! Or about Tatarstan). So you need to know 2 languages. Well, you know, Kazakhstan, as it were, what can you do. But if you don’t know, you are obliged to translate everything, they will not translate it, a couple of complaints and they will be fired from your job. Something like that.
    1. Kassandra
      Kassandra 28 October 2014 20: 35
      0
      Crete is small however. And how do you distinguish Russians from other whites in general?
      There are practically no Russian chiefs in the Russian Federation either. In Kazakhstan, even less

      Generally, learn English, or Chinese.
  37. mervino2007
    mervino2007 26 October 2014 23: 42
    0
    Quote: Zymran
    When we gave an interview to the journalist, they spoke sincerely, a scandal arose - they changed their shoes instantly.


    To say this, you need to know EXACTLY what was said and what was reflected in the article. It seems that the journalist was ordered ... despite the existing "awkwardness" of Kazakh life. And where are they not?
  38. Aydar
    Aydar 27 October 2014 06: 20
    0
    Quote: Tima
    Russia has only the Volga-Mother and Amur-Father from relatives, and she has no brothers and sisters ... and Thank God.
    And the fraternal Union of free republics - to the dump!

    Nobody will sign up to you as a "relative"; on the contrary, all "fraternal Unions of free republics" will be happy if such subjects are less likely to bother you.
  39. Prager
    Prager 27 October 2014 14: 45
    0
    live happily in your Kazakhstan! I sincerely wish you all the best and happiness!