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“The big war is on the current political agenda”

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“The big war is on the current political agenda”


Russia should be ready for it

A meeting of the Council of Ministers of the Union State of Russia and Belarus took place the other day. Dmitry Medvedev praised the agreements reached.

However, shortly before this, a press conference was held by Alexander Lukashenko, during which the Belarusian leader made a number of ambiguous statements about the relations between Moscow and Minsk. In diplomatic practice, imprudent remarks are not accepted, especially on the eve of important negotiations.

At the same time, Lukashenko stressed that his words are pulled out of context: “But the misfortune of individual politicians, and most of all the media in Russia, and the blame is that they begin to pull out of the context of my reasoning — either the first half is served or the second half.

In this regard, we again turn to the topic of real relations between Moscow and Minsk. Today the situation is being analyzed by a political scientist, doctor historical Vardan Baghdasaryan

In the Russian patriotic camp began talking about the "betrayal" Farther


- Lukashenko has long acted as one of the main symbolic figures for the Russian patriotic movement. In Belarus, headed by him, in dissonance with Russia, many components of the Soviet system of government remained. Lukashenko was the first in the post-Soviet space to enter a political clinch with the West, for which he was defined as the “last tyrant of Europe”, and Belarus was subjected to sanctions.

In the past few years, Russia and Putin have gone the way Belarus and Lukashenko traveled in relations with the West in the past few years. The Belarusian president resolutely suppressed the “fifth column” in the republic. Disruption of the plans of the “cornflower revolution” was the first reflection of the orange threat in the space of the former USSR. Lukashenko was the first, even under Yeltsin, to initiate the idea of ​​a Russian-Belarusian reintegration project ...

And so, the idol of the Russian patriotic designates, at a minimum, its distancing from the new foreign policy of Russia. This course is expressed by a simple trivial formula - “give change”, “kick back”. Earlier, Belarus, despite Russian pressure, refuses to recognize the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Now the Belarusian president expresses his disagreement with regard to the Russian rally of the annexation of the Crimea. So allies do not behave.

In the Russian patriotic camp began talking about the "betrayal" Farther. But labeling a little constructive. Let us try to find an explanation for the strangeness of the foreign policy position of the Belarusian leader.

The struggle of the West to overthrow the Lukashenka regime will continue

Obviously, for the West, Lukashenko is an irritant. Bleeding with him is unlikely. If we assume that the struggle of the West to overthrow the Lukashenka regime will continue, then the question of what format it will be conducted should be answered.

There are three classic versions of the interstate struggle: military actions; blockade; organization of a coup. The method of blockade through the regime of imposing sanctions against Belarus has already been applied. Its application turned out only to strengthen the economic orientation of the republic to Russia and China.

The tactic of organizing the “color revolution” was also used. She, as you know, also failed. As a result of the victory over the “Orangeists”, the Lukashenko regime only grew stronger. As the Belarusian president himself said at a meeting with Russian journalists, the grant support of the opposition in Belarus from the West has now actually been phased out.

In the arsenal of external opponents of the Belarusian president, the only tool that has not been used so far is war. In the wake of 2014, the military scenario does not seem incredible. Lukashenko so directly and stated his fears - the threat of Belarus being drawn into the funnel of war.

The proclamation of the sovereignty of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and to an even greater degree the annexation of Crimea to Russia, obviously creates, in the eyes of Lukashenko, an indirect threat to Belarus.

Lukashenko is obviously trying to avoid a military scenario

Polish claims extend to all of Western Belarus along the 1939 borders of the year. The seriousness of these claims in the understanding of Lukashenko says his entailing a diplomatic scandal speech on this subject.

“At the last event there was a thousand diplomatic quirks from their side,” the Belarusian president collapses at the position of Warsaw, which was manifested during the Eastern Partnership summit. - This is Poland! Well they are great figures! They sleep and see that the border of Poland passes near Minsk, they can’t agree with the fact that the border is beyond Grodno ”.

In Ukraine, during rallies of nationalists, claims to the Belarusian Beresteyshchina and Gomel oblast are articulated. I recall the history of the struggle of Bandera in Belarus for the restoration of the "true" within its borders of "Great Ukraine". The cautious Lukashenko is obviously trying to avoid a military scenario. It is clear that to definitely side with Russia means for Belarus in this prospect to be at the epicenter of the global war.

For Russia, from this analysis it follows, at a minimum, the conclusion that a big war is on the current political agenda. And this probable scenario must be forced training.

The situation is reminiscent of the one that evolved on the eve of world wars. Accordingly, the main challenge for Russia is to be in time. Not least this means the strengthening of the Russian geopolitical and military presence on the western frontiers.
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  1. zao74
    zao74 26 October 2014 06: 59
    +10
    In the Russian patriotic camp began talking about the "betrayal" Farther

    Old Man fights for his country and for Russia, by and large, "all the same".
    1. Talgat
      Talgat 26 October 2014 11: 23
      +14
      I apologize - I certainly have a "side view" but

      Old Man is the same patriot of Russia as Belarus
      The world is breaking up at 2 camps - and never in the worst dream, Old Man and Belarusians will end up in the camp of the West
      Everything that Old Man says and does everything is consistent with the Russian leadership
      In the situation with Ukraine, Old Man cannot go together with Russia for "WAR", there is not much benefit to everyone - but they will additionally receive minuses

      But do not look at the headlines and cliches - read Old Man yourself - where is he against the Russian Federation? He clearly says that the conflict is unleashed by the United States and the West - neither Russian nor Ukrainians need it

      I myself consider Belarus to be the same ally and country closest to us as the Russian Federation (and we don’t have many really close ones — don’t be Russia and Belarusians — only the Turks can do some kind of integration and support) - therefore I can’t insert 5 kopecks
    2. alex13-61
      alex13-61 26 October 2014 13: 08
      +8
      Quote: zao74
      Old Man fights for his country and for Russia, by and large, "all the same".

      But without Russia, by and large, "everyone ... arrived ..."
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 27 October 2014 13: 53
        +1
        But from this promise Russia does not need to make a satellite an ally. Submission to one’s own interests to the detriment of the interests of the ally (I don’t write quotes) is disastrous for the union and its participants. Now Russia does not have such a situation as to rock up its vanity and scatter friends and allies.
    3. s1н7т
      s1н7т 26 October 2014 18: 41
      +2
      Hmm. It will be "all the same" without Russia.
    4. Denis fj
      Denis fj 26 October 2014 22: 44
      +3
      V. Baghdasaryan: “The Great War is on the current political agenda”
      ------------------------------------------
      And it has always been “on the topical political agenda,” since Soviet times. So this is not news.
      Therefore, the CIS countries created the CSTO, where Russia and Belarus, together with Kazakhstan, occupy a leading position. The CSTO countries have a common air defense system, perhaps the S-400 Triumph and Iskander S-XNUMXs have already arrived in Belarus.
      In addition, there is also the SCO.
      Currently, Russia will deploy a military air base in Belarus and is strengthening the Baltic Fleet.
      The enemy is not so terrible, as he is painted!
      And Belarusians know how to fight no worse than Russians, the Nazis themselves experienced this during the war. So everything will be OK
      1. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 27 October 2014 13: 56
        0
        It’s a matter of deed, but the fifth column doesn’t have to be given too wide a stand because they slam a wedge in them with their slander and speculations on difficulties in Russian-Belarusian allied relations, which clearly negatively affects both the union and its members.
  2. Name
    Name 26 October 2014 06: 59
    +9
    Well, at least beat, but I DO NOT believe Lukashenko, he is slippery as a burbot.
    1. Silkway0026
      Silkway0026 26 October 2014 07: 46
      +4
      Yes, they are all slippery - and "brothers-Bulgarians", and Ukrainians and other "fraternal" populace ... Corruption and prostitution are universal.
      1. Orik
        Orik 26 October 2014 11: 53
        +11
        Quote: Silkway0026
        Yes, they are all slippery - and "brothers-Bulgarians", and Ukrainians and other "fraternal" populace ... Corruption and prostitution are universal.

        People living in Belarus are not "brothers" or even "brotherly people", we are one, temporarily divided people, u.rod is the one who thinks differently. There can be no talk of any betrayal.
      2. Shvonder
        Shvonder 26 October 2014 17: 44
        +2
        Quote: Silkway0026
        Yes, they are all slippery - and "brothers-Bulgarians", and Ukrainians and other "fraternal" populace ... Corruption and prostitution are universal.

        Do not speak for everyone, better answer for yourself, you row everyone under one comb. Who are you?
        1. Alexkorzun
          Alexkorzun 26 October 2014 18: 37
          +3
          Shvonder, go to your "historical homeland". And I'm not talking about the "brothers" because of my emotions, according to FACTS. Warm and full, freebie rushing - "brothers"! And as soon as you have to show adherence to principles, say the word against "pindos", take a chance, and immediately the language in jony ...
          1. Shvonder
            Shvonder 26 October 2014 20: 00
            +1
            Quote: Alexkorzun
            Shvonder, go to your "historical homeland".

            Sho you mean by my "historical homeland"? Work dear, and go through my comments, there I speak well of the "historical homeland" and "God's chosen people." hi
          2. Oldwiser
            Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 03
            0
            Are you talking about the Serbs? Or about the Cubans?
      3. Petergut
        Petergut 26 October 2014 19: 30
        +4
        Quote: Silkway0026
        .
        The sale and prostitution of the polls.


        It’s bitter to hear such words about Belarusians, who, like it or not, are the same Russian.
        The boot of the invader was the first to step on the Belarusian lands. And Belarusians were the first to thin out.
        But even in the worst of times, we remember who we are and where.
        And let the memory of every third Belarus victim in WWII be a confirmation of these words.
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 05
          +1
          Do not give in to the provocations of the "Great Power Chauvinists" - it is clear that the texts of their "songs" are written in the US State Department.
      4. Shaitan_by
        Shaitan_by 26 October 2014 20: 45
        0
        If all peoples are called corrupt, that is, not correct, then in a purely mathematically veiled way their people are declared "correct", and this already smacks of Nazism.
      5. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 01
        0
        I do not agree - the Serbs have never shown themselves to be corrupt.
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    3. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 26 October 2014 09: 33
      +7
      Quote: name
      Well, at least beat, but I DO NOT believe Lukashenko, he is slippery as a burbot.

      Recently, I showed my essence .. I respected him earlier ..! As the saying goes "a friend is known in trouble .." I decided to cut down the grandmother and a political bonus (in the eyes of the West to raise) on our serious problems and the confrontation with the United States .. Eh daddy .. not expected to be honest! hi God is your judge...
      1. stasimar
        stasimar 26 October 2014 11: 14
        +3
        oh, Russian brothers, we also remember your friendly dairy, meat, oil and other warriors, turning off the gas in the midst of winter frosts. in the recent elections, the cries of Medvedev, Zhirinovsky and others that the bloody dictator should leave, despite the fact that there were no other pro-Russian candidates. don't you find it strange that after all this we are still together !?
        1. La hire
          La hire 26 October 2014 11: 22
          +8
          By the way, yes. I remember how some 4 years ago all to a single central channel "soaked" Old Man. Even if there was a reason - he hid Bakiev after all - but what was imputed to him there, especially NTV, does not fit into any generally known framework.
          1. Vitaly Anisimov
            Vitaly Anisimov 26 October 2014 11: 47
            0
            Quote: La Hire
            By the way, yes. I remember how some 4 years ago all to a single central channel "soaked" Old Man. Even if there was a reason - he hid Bakiev after all - but what was imputed to him there, especially NTV, does not fit into any generally known framework.

            That's right .. I also remember very well how the Western and our TV channels (liberal) spread rot Lukashenko (the last dictator of Europe))) ..... And now silence! He began to see a good ..? This is what is alarming ... As long as our Putin is spread rot and Russia is sanctioned, everything is going well, we are developing and we are going the right way ..! (I myself wrote old letters of praise to Old Man .. make an error ..) hi Lukashenko is just trying to rip off from Russia ..and from the west too! And the most interesting thing is that it’s openly traded openly .. Who will buy me more expensive! Toad see him give a start when we offered Yanyku 15 billion and discounts on gas .. He wants it too? Well, come on ..
            1. Oldwiser
              Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 16
              0
              And who will return these 15 yards now? Even a share of ukro-GTS is not offered.
        2. Orik
          Orik 26 October 2014 11: 57
          +2
          Quote: stasimar
          oh, Russian brothers, we also remember your friendly dairy, meat, oil and other warriors, turning off the gas in the midst of winter frosts. in the recent elections, the cries of Medvedev, Zhirinovsky and others that the bloody dictator should leave, despite the fact that there were no other pro-Russian candidates. don't you find it strange that after all this we are still together !?

          If the mind is not enough to understand that this is a showdown between the authorities of the two countries, do not hell with writing nonsense. The people are not involved in these showdowns!
          1. stasimar
            stasimar 26 October 2014 12: 08
            +1
            while the people were cold in city apartments
          2. Oldwiser
            Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 19
            +1
            Alexander Grigorievich does not want to let the Russian oligarchs to cut the "Belarusian collective farm". From this and all the hysteria of the Russian pro-liberal media. The relationship between the Libers of countries is part of the relationship between their peoples. So this is no nonsense.
        3. avg
          avg 26 October 2014 13: 27
          +3
          Quote: stasimar
          oh, Russian brothers, we also remember your friendly dairy, meat, oil and other warriors,

          Stop lying. But Father has become a habit of blackmailing Russia. For example, on gas, not only did he refuse to pay off the debt, but he also refused to pay at a price higher than within the Russian one, while at the same time reselling gas abroad at world prices. The same is true for oil and oil products. Then Lukashenko agreed to repay the debts, but not in money, but in Belarusian goods, and at a price he had invented. Then he began to talk nonsense about the fact that Russia owes Belarus only for the fact that it protects us from NATO. But what has he just not uttered over the past years, unlike, by the way, from Putin. One of the last pearls - give us the S-300 for free, anyway they are lying under your fence. As for foodstuffs, Russia is still "turning a blind eye" at the significantly increased food flow from Belarus, and so far only Lukashenka hints that one still needs to have a conscience. And when this flow has to be stopped, it will be very interesting what Father will tell Belarusians on TV. Speaking of TV, if Russian channels, in their critical materials, talk about Lukashenka, then Belarusian ones often talk about Russia and Russians in general. As they say, feel the difference.
          1. Buchki
            Buchki 27 October 2014 01: 28
            +1
            Yes Yes Yes! And it would be nice to include his summer performance with promises to help "dear Peter Alekseevich" (the main Dill, who has forgotten) with solarium for the autumn "sowing" (or harvesting, I don't remember exactly). The Russian blogosphere exploded - the news disappeared without authoritative comments ...
          2. Penzyac
            Penzyac 27 October 2014 02: 47
            0
            Quote: avg
            Quote: stasimar
            oh, Russian brothers, we also remember your friendly dairy, meat, oil and other warriors,

            ... Butsky has become a habit of blackmailing Russia. ...

            Yes, this, unfortunately, watching from our Russian side looks exactly like that.
            True, cunning is the normal behavior of any good collective farm chairman in Soviet times.
            ... Speaking of TV, if the Russian channels, in their critical materials, speak specifically about Lukashenko, then the Belarusian ones often talk about Russia and the Russians as a whole. As the saying goes, feel the difference.

            This is really significant, although the Belarusians do not take offense at us, but although there are drawbacks in Russia (believe me, we ourselves see them and we don’t like them either, we just don’t want revolutions) and in Belarus, but to generalize and transfer them to the peoples of our countries (more precisely, parts of one people) are still not worth it (generally harmful).
          3. Oldwiser
            Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 23
            0
            As I see it, you want Belarus to follow the path "- this is not Russia."
        4. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 14
          +1
          The above is the intrigues of the enemies of Russia and Belarus, or the stupidity and thoughtlessness of lovers of "rights and freedoms" (liberals and others like them).
      2. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 10
        +1
        Well, where did you see
        Quote: MIKHAN
        political bonus
        for Lukashenka from mattress and geyropa? That the EU official representative came (for the first time in XNUMX years) to Minsk - as a mediator for negotiations? Gayropa lifted sanctions against Belarus? Have there been any positive materials about the "Lukashenka regime" in the Western media?
        I do not see anything like this. What is - is the propaganda of the Belarusian fifth column - "Come on Lukashenka, lie down under the West - and you will return tobig european politics>"
    4. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 00
      +1
      Which is - and thanks God. In Ukraine, over 23 years, NO ONE pro-Russian (at least in words) president did not wait. There is something to compare. Politicians should be judged by cases, not tied to individual words, even if not the most diplomatic and refined.
  3. LukaSaraev
    LukaSaraev 26 October 2014 07: 18
    +20
    Comrades, don’t make a "camomile" - I believe, I don’t believe.
    My friend lives in Belarus, in Minsk. He says you would not be interested here. Yes, everything is clean and cultural. But life is quiet and not particularly romantic. The salary is not high, but they pay.
    Do you understand what I mean? Who would not want this on the same dill. Quietly and peacefully graze geese on the lawn near the pond?
    But no. So it’s not interesting. No romance ...
    Therefore, I understand that Lukashenka knows about any support from Russia, "if anything," but at the same time, like a brood hen on the nest, does not let anyone close to his territories and interests.
    You know, and I like him. The people respect him. "Old Man".
    For all the time that he is at the helm so far, the "artists" have not picked up colors to his glade.
    1. Name
      Name 26 October 2014 07: 34
      +7
      Quote: LukaSaraev
      Lukashenko knows about any support from the side of Russia,

      So, with the gas price from Russia at 167 evergreens for 1000 cubic meters, you can be a "brother".
      1. lexx2038
        lexx2038 26 October 2014 07: 44
        +9
        Russia will not survive, Belarus will immediately turn into Ukraine, so Lukashenko is our brother not only because of gas, but also in mentality, and in blood, and in the political situation.
        1. Penzyac
          Penzyac 27 October 2014 03: 03
          0
          Quote: lexx2038
          Russia will not survive, Belarus will immediately turn into Ukraine, so Lukashenko is our brother not only because of gas, but also in mentality, and in blood, and in the political situation.

          Russia will not stand (fie three times over the left shoulder) - no one will stand, including China.
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 26 October 2014 09: 47
        +1
        Quote: name
        So, with the gas price from Russia at 167 evergreens for 1000 cubic meters, you can be a "brother".
        Do you get "brotherly feelings" from one kind of bucks in excitement?
        1. Name
          Name 26 October 2014 11: 28
          +1
          Quote: Stanislav
          Do you get "brotherly feelings" from one kind of bucks in excitement?

          Yes, sir, address this question to Lukashenka - it will be at the address. Raise the price of Russia and the President of Belarus will begin to "baptize" Russia with something new.
      3. Penzyac
        Penzyac 27 October 2014 03: 01
        +1
        Quote: name
        Quote: LukaSaraev
        Lukashenko knows about any support from the side of Russia,

        So, with the gas price from Russia at 167 evergreens for 1000 cubic meters, you can be a "brother".

        And who prevented from becoming a "brother", at least the same Yanukovych? And for him there could be exactly the same price ...
        Dohitropopilsya ..., and even the coward was ...
      4. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 25
        0
        The strongest friendship is when it is "with interest."
    2. saag
      saag 26 October 2014 08: 27
      +1
      Quote: LukaSaraev
      Who would not want this on the same dill.

      no one, Ukraine has its own "summer night's dream" - no visas and salary in euros
      1. Penzyac
        Penzyac 27 October 2014 03: 08
        0
        Quote: saag
        Quote: LukaSaraev
        Who would not want this on the same dill.

        no one, Ukraine has its own "summer night's dream" - no visas and salary in euros

        In a dream, most often everything is seen not as it was, is or will be ...
        Even Gazprom’s dreams do not always come true, and dill is dreamed ...
        It's time to grow up! ...
    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 27 October 2014 02: 53
      0
      Quote: LukaSaraev
      ...
      The "artists" did not match his glade with colors.

      About "artists" transcripts! Liked. good
      Otherwise, I also completely agree.
  4. lexx2038
    lexx2038 26 October 2014 07: 38
    +1
    I think in difficult times they will be with us.
    1. saag
      saag 26 October 2014 08: 28
      +4
      Quote: lexx2038
      I think in difficult times they will be with us.

      no, traditionally everyone like Lukashenko likes to jump onto the winner’s chariot, otherwise they are in a hurry to leave it
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 26 October 2014 09: 13
        +5
        Quote: saag
        traditionally, everyone like Lukashenko likes to jump onto the winner’s chariot, otherwise they are in a hurry to leave it

        Would you rather go under the wheels? I watched something like this in documentary shots about August 1991 in Moscow. One figure laid down three times in the path of a moving tank, but when rattling caterpillars approached his precious carcass, he abruptly jumped up and ran ahead. Clown!
        1. saag
          saag 26 October 2014 09: 19
          0
          Quote: 11111mail.ru
          Would you rather go under the wheels?

          i would rather be consistent
          1. 11111mail.ru
            11111mail.ru 26 October 2014 12: 39
            0
            Quote: saag
            i would rather be consistent

            Therefore, in your opinion, does A.G. Lukashenko, as the president of the Republic of Belarus, not consistently defend her interests?
            1. saag
              saag 26 October 2014 18: 36
              +1
              Quote: 11111mail.ru
              not consistently defending her interests?

              no, he’s generally going against it, he refused to recognize Crimea, it’s like Ukraine, etc.
              1. Penzyac
                Penzyac 27 October 2014 03: 17
                0
                Quote: saag
                Quote: 11111mail.ru
                not consistently defending her interests?

                no, he’s generally going against it, he refused to recognize Crimea, it’s like Ukraine, etc.

                Everything has its time...
              2. 11111mail.ru
                11111mail.ru 27 October 2014 05: 01
                0
                Quote: saag
                he goes against it altogether, he refused to recognize Crimea, it’s like Ukraine, etc.

                An interesting technique you have for avoiding answers: "there is an elder in the garden, but there is an uncle in Kiev." There seems to be an answer, but not on the merits of the question asked, "count" it is already inappropriate to put it, because "taught, tried." I am a direct question for you, and you are a snake aside, you are a Pharisee ...
                1. saag
                  saag 27 October 2014 06: 40
                  0
                  What is wrong with you, when Lukashenko needs cheap oil, he is for Russia, when he wants to like the West somehow, he is for a united Ukraine, and in general Pyotr Alekseevich is a sculpted friend
              3. Oldwiser
                Oldwiser 27 October 2014 14: 29
                0
                But imagine that the Vitebsk region will hold a "referendum" and say "I want to go to Russia." So this is a serious question, maybe somewhat painful.
      2. Penzyac
        Penzyac 27 October 2014 03: 15
        0
        Quote: saag
        Quote: lexx2038
        I think in difficult times they will be with us.

        no, traditionally everyone like Lukashenko likes to jump onto the winner’s chariot, otherwise they are in a hurry to leave it

        Changing chariots is too late. Neither jump already, nor jump. Now only go to the end.
  5. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 26 October 2014 07: 38
    +3
    Quote: name
    I DO NOT believe Lukashenko, how slippery he is as a burbot.


    What can I say here, it is a personal matter for everyone to believe or not to trust a person (in this case, Lukashenko), but he can also be understood, he is trying hard to stay away in case of war, the world is generally a fragile thing, like a house of cards and hide, to hide nobody can get a war in such a house. We all see that Russia understands all this alignment and at least somehow tries to be ready for war, but remember when we were ready for war, it (war) for Russia it always started suddenly, not when there was not enough time, and Lukashenko doesn’t manage to stay away, it’s not enough for everyone.
  6. k174oun7
    k174oun7 26 October 2014 07: 42
    +8
    A funny little article, to put it politely. It turns out that daddy was the first to enter into a political clinch with the West. He took it himself and entered. And now Putin has also taken and entered the same place, and will probably also become a tyrant. Accordingly, Lukashenko will no longer be the last, but the penultimate tyrant. Nekors are trying to make Putin and Lukashenka clinch. As for the recognition of Abkhazia and Ossetia, it has been said many times why it happened, for which special responsibility lies with "our" LADY, who was at that time a "guarantor". Those who have not heard the words of Lukashenka himself can believe such perverters. The purpose of such "analytical" materials is to deteriorate the perception of Belarus as Russia's only real ally, whose army, together with Russian bases, covers the western direction from "partners".
  7. LukaSaraev
    LukaSaraev 26 October 2014 08: 11
    +1
    Quote: name
    at a gas price from Russia at 167 evergreens per 1000 cubic meters

    Awesome! I can not write about this. Yesterday I went to my son at a parent's meeting. Rain, it's cold. Stop 800 m from the house. I get on the bus and understand that I forgot the pass card of the house in another jacket. No cash in cash. Only on 2 cards of Sberbank, which turned out to be useless in this situation. The conductor showed impartially at the door. And then ... With a terrible smell of fume, a man takes a hundred, pulls to the conductor and asks to take 17 rubles for me. Of course, I shook the man’s hand.

    The prime cost of 1 barrel of oil in Russia is 4 "evergreen". And we have Belarus in our brothers. Is not it?
    1. andj61
      andj61 26 October 2014 21: 46
      +1
      Totally agree with you. That's just the phrase
      Quote: LukaSaraev
      The prime cost of 1 barrel of oil in Russia is 4 "evergreen". And we have Belarus in our brothers. Is not it?

      not quite right. Even under Gorbachev, the cost was a little less than 10.
      And for gas I myself pay 5 rubles per cubic meter. This is now, taking into account the growth of the dollar, about 120 dollars, but at the beginning of the year it was just about 160.
      In my opinion, now Belarus receives oil and gas from us at domestic prices, but for its own consumption, and not for export to the West. In addition, sanctions are great support for Belarus. Now agricultural products cleared in Belarus are sent to Kazakhstan - according to the documents, but no one goes further than the Moscow Ring Road. Navar for mediation is not bad.
  8. chinArmy
    chinArmy 26 October 2014 08: 59
    +5
    Friends! do not believe the opinions of political scientists and other analysts if you can use the source!

    I was not too lazy, I found an Old Man press conference in the network, I listened from beginning to end - everything became clear and understandable!

    I’ll even say more - there were ideas about Belarusian politics that I hadn’t thought about before
  9. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 26 October 2014 09: 24
    +3
    Who doesn’t like Alexander Grigorievich? Well, okay, you don’t like him, your right, freedom of choice, so to speak. Only in any way he is a handshake for the Russian Federation, unlike Mr. Poroshenko, the granddaughter of the Fuhrer and the Gallic cockerel. A cousin in Belarus lives on a military pension, I did not hear anything from him about the politics of A.G. The most important thing is that it does not allow officials to steal! For this, he and our bullshit do not like him sharply.
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    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 26 October 2014 09: 44
      +4
      Quote: 11111mail.ru
      Who doesn’t like Alexander Grigorievich? Well, okay, you don’t like him, your right, freedom of choice, so to speak. Only in any way he is a handshake for the Russian Federation, unlike Mr. Poroshenko, the granddaughter of the Fuhrer and the Gallic cockerel. A cousin in Belarus lives on a military pension, I did not hear anything from him about the politics of A.G. The most important thing is that it does not allow officials to steal! For this, he and our bullshit do not like him sharply.

      What he does inside the country, I agree with him ..! They do not live well but production is stable. Agriculture is also working well .. The oligarchs are holding a fist in corruption ... But has foreign policy been slippery lately .. Has parashenko cuddled? (hugged) Volunteers of Belarusians (who went to New Russia) are pursuing? Persecutes ... Bypassing the Russian sanction, agricultural products are bought by the EU and sold to us.? Sells .. Does our oil resell to the west? Resells .. Doesn’t modernize his army? It doesn’t modernize (it hopes they will defend Russia anyway ..) These are the things I’ve been watching Lukashenko for the last year .. And how do we react to the Belarus brothers? It's a shame, damn it to say the least .. hi
      1. 11111mail.ru
        11111mail.ru 26 October 2014 12: 30
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Bypassing the Russian sanction, agricultural products are bought by the EU and sold to us.? Sells ..

        Petty speculation? Shallow ...
        Quote: MIKHAN
        . Does our oil resell to the west? Resells ..

        If there is no oil of its own, does it mean that it is selling ErEfskaya? Money is probably needed ... And who does not need it? At our gas stations now, gasoline prices are climbing up, although the oil market quotes have a clear downward trend. Is it because we have a "good" government in EREF ...?
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Doesn’t modernize his army?

        ... doesn't upgrade? Yeah, in the Russian Federation the Armed Forces were so modernized (or rather muzzled) that the previous minister had to be "removed" from his girlfriend's apartment ... And so far no one has answered for the mess (brothel?)!
        Quote: MIKHAN
        It's a shame, damn it, to say the least.

        So it’s a shame that with our mess in the direction of the neighbor we nod.
  10. Agent 008
    Agent 008 26 October 2014 10: 19
    +1
    Lukashenko understands that without Russia, the United States and the West will tear Belarus apart in a matter of months ... And all his type of "anti-Russian" statements are nothing more than a desire to show us and Belarusians, they say, look how independent I am ... But what do I have in him I like it, because this is what does not allow homegrown oligarchs, like ours, to plunder the country and shoot terrorists, therefore he has order! And yet, I have no doubt that if suddenly there is a war, Belarusians and Russians stand shoulder to shoulder against the enemy ...
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 26 October 2014 10: 35
      0
      Quote: Agent 008
      And yet, I have no doubt that if suddenly a war, Belarusians and Russians shoulder shoulder to shoulder against the enemy ...

      Well, so the war is already going on at the border of Russia and Belarus! The troops would have pulled it to the border .. (sent a humanitarian convoy ..) Or is it waiting for the cities to bomb in Russia and Belarus ..?) Will they leave for the partisan detachment in the woods ..? It will be too late! The USA is not Germany .. in the 41st ... Rolls out all the forests burned into the steppe ... (we have Siberia .. we can move back to regroup ..) Well, I don’t know, all this is alarming .. Rather, if it’s money from Russia again we freeze because we all must be rich .. patient .. kind .. hi
  11. Selevc
    Selevc 26 October 2014 10: 32
    +1
    Old Man is strong but not eternal !!! The system of power that Lukashenko has built over the past 20 years in Belarus will live exactly as long as Lukashenko himself lives ... The country will begin to change the day after his death, but it is completely incomprehensible in which direction ...
    And this, incidentally, is a threat to the EAEU - it turns out that in that fable the swans, crayfish and pike were harnessed to the same cart - Batka's Socialist Reserve - the BSSR, oligarchic-liberal Russia and the Kazakh clan sultanate of Nazarbayev - which would be completely incomprehensible ... But as they say - time will put everything in its place !!!
    1. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 26 October 2014 12: 06
      +1
      Quote: Selevc
      Old Man is strong but not eternal !!! The system of power that Lukashenko has built over the past 20 years in Belarus will live exactly as long as Lukashenko himself lives ... The country will begin to change the day after his death, but it is completely incomprehensible in which direction ...

      And in Kazakhstan, the same trouble will be ... In Russia, such transitions were bloody, but after Putin I think this will not happen .. We have seen enough of all over the past 25 years and have heard enough too .. But the authorities know that Russia is not the same .. hi
  12. PValery53
    PValery53 26 October 2014 12: 22
    +3
    Of course, but father does not show vassal loyalty to Russia, as if proud. Wouldn't betray in hard times. Someone else's soul - darkness ... But, how not judge, but Belarus needs our help in the fuel and energy sector. At the same time, it supplies us with dairy products not at extortionate prices. For non-Belarusian cheese, prices were raised for 350-450 rubles / kg, local s, u, k, i-bandits. And salaries (patches), like pensions, "keep" basically 8-20 tr. But parasites (fleas in human form) at the tops of all the "pyramids" - lafa.
  13. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 26 October 2014 12: 54
    0
    Quote: PValery53
    salaries (patches), as well as pensions, "keep" mainly 8-20 tr. But

    The same garbage .. Oil in the price falls gasoline and everything else rises ....! Profit above all else! .. In crises and defaults, usually big fortunes are made ..
    1. andj61
      andj61 26 October 2014 21: 52
      +2
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Oil falls in price gasoline and everything else rises ....! Profit above all else! .. In crises and defaults, usually big fortunes are made ..

      Oil falls in price, if you count in dollars, and if you count in rubles, it’s not really, it’s about that. But for a reason to increase gas prices - it’s time for the state to use the power!
      1. DRA-88
        DRA-88 26 October 2014 22: 00
        +1
        Quote: andj61
        Oil falls in price, if you count in dollars, and if you count in rubles, it’s not really, it’s about that.

        I am very sorry!
        But I, together with the calculator, could not come to your formula ...
        Therefore, I broke the calculator, the two of us can not cope!
        I ask for your help to clarify the situation!
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 26 October 2014 22: 41
          +1
          Quote: DRA-88
          I ask for your help to clarify the situation!


          Join us! drinks Hi Vladlen! hi
          1. DRA-88
            DRA-88 26 October 2014 22: 45
            +1
            Quote: studentmati
            Join us!

            Sanya! Well, where have you been ?! I missed all the booze! All skirmishes too missed!
            I'm glad to see you! drinks
            1. studentmati
              studentmati 26 October 2014 22: 48
              +1
              Quote: DRA-88
              Sanya! Well, where have you been ?!


              In a burden! sad
              1. DRA-88
                DRA-88 26 October 2014 22: 49
                +1
                Quote: studentmati
                Burdened

                What happened buddy ??? request
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 26 October 2014 22: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: DRA-88
                  Quote: studentmati
                  Burdened

                  What happened buddy ??? request


                  Yes, all the way, friend! "The truncated is fine"! Thanks!
                  1. DRA-88
                    DRA-88 26 October 2014 22: 59
                    +1
                    So everything is fine, it’s only a pity that the answer from
                    andj61 We will not wait ... lol
                    1. studentmati
                      studentmati 26 October 2014 23: 03
                      +1
                      Quote: DRA-88
                      what's the answer from
                      andj61 We won’t wait ... lol


                      Looks like yes! Faded already. Is the logic strange?
                2. Normal
                  Normal 26 October 2014 23: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: DRA-88
                  Quote: studentmati
                  Burdened

                  What happened buddy ???

                  The terrible bird perepil pecked at the Adam's apple.
                  Nvv said:
                  Will bring .... a drunken company to a zugunder ...
                  Go to bed, drunk !!!


                  And this is from me and Shaov

                  1. DRA-88
                    DRA-88 26 October 2014 23: 30
                    +1
                    Quote: Normal
                    Normal

                    And I will answer you!
                    1. Normal
                      Normal 27 October 2014 00: 11
                      +2
                      And I have something to argue

                      1. DRA-88
                        DRA-88 27 October 2014 00: 15
                        0
                        Quote: Normal
                        And I have something to argue

                        Trelawney .........., I remember this uncle laughing
                        Volodya, you are really savvy on the topic of anti-alcoholism! laughing Made laugh laughing
                      2. studentmati
                        studentmati 27 October 2014 00: 18
                        +1
                        Quote: Normal
                        And I have something to argue



                        Topic!!! good good drinks
                  2. studentmati
                    studentmati 26 October 2014 23: 39
                    +2
                    Quote: Normal
                    The terrible bird perepil pecked at the Adam's apple.


                    Not at all, Volodya!

                    1. DRA-88
                      DRA-88 26 October 2014 23: 57
                      0
                      Quote: studentmati
                      Not at all, Volodya!

                      Serious thing!
                      1. studentmati
                        studentmati 27 October 2014 00: 06
                        +2
                        Quote: DRA-88
                        Serious thing!


                        Just life!

                      2. DRA-88
                        DRA-88 27 October 2014 00: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Just life!

                        I laid it out yesterday, but I'll post it again, also about life!
                      3. studentmati
                        studentmati 27 October 2014 00: 37
                        +1
                        Quote: DRA-88
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Just life!

                        I laid it out yesterday, but I'll post it again, also about life!


                        I agree! This is the era! not just life! soldier
                      4. DRA-88
                        DRA-88 27 October 2014 00: 49
                        +1
                        I caught the topic!
                      5. Normal
                        Normal 27 October 2014 01: 03
                        +1
                        Quote: DRA-88
                        I caught the topic


                        Right! That's the whole philosophy of power. That's the whole patriotic-statist course of OUR authorities (I won’t even say abroad, they have their own cockroaches in their head, but the philosophy of power is the same)
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                    2. Normal
                      Normal 27 October 2014 00: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: studentmati
                      Not at all, Volodya!



                      But still

                      1. studentmati
                        studentmati 27 October 2014 00: 28
                        +2
                        Quote: Normal
                        But still


                        Got it, Vova, got it. Thank! good

                      2. DRA-88
                        DRA-88 27 October 2014 00: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Got it, Vova, got it. Thank!

                        Yeah !!!! laughing
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                      4. DRA-88
                        DRA-88 27 October 2014 01: 05
                        0
                        Quote: Normal
                        Seriously.

                        I had a case. I come for a driving certificate and a weapon in "drug addict" after DR and, accordingly, from Budun!
                        The doctor got very pretty laughing He asks: do you use? (and it’s clear that I’m rushing for the quarter)
                        I: Nooooo, I say, I'm sick laughing
                        She: show the language ...
                        And it is so swollen in my mouth that I can barely move it! Well, I barely showed the tip ...
                        She: -Well, everything is clear !!!!
                        Me: So give me the phone number ??? !!!
                        She, holding out a note: Run home soon!
                        It seemed to me that I smiled beautifully: Or maybe you can give a ride ?!
                        She, with a clear, obscure timbre; Are you still in a car? !!! laughing

                        The next day I met her after working with champagne and flowers .....
                        Everything worked out!!!! good laughing
                        And you say do not drink !!!! laughing laughing laughing
                      5. Normal
                        Normal 27 October 2014 00: 52
                        0
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Got it, Vova, got it. Thank!

                        I took it off from Klava laughing

                        Quote: DRA-88
                        Volodya, you are really savvy on the topic of anti-alcoholism!


                        Not only "anti" but also alcoholism.
                        Laughter, laughter, but there is infa that at the very top a decision was made to reconsider the attitude to drinking.
                        Almost all of us were enrolled in alcoholics of the third degree.
                        First degree - the so-called "program" that is, when the child sees that they are drinking, knows that they are drinking for the holidays for fun, plays, clinking glasses of soda (the child is a first-degree alcoholic)
                        Second degree - I tried - an alcoholic of the second degree.
                        Third degree - "from time to time", "on holidays", on weekends - that is "regularly"systematically. This is all a stigma! So if your doctors accidentally ask how often you use, God forbid you say - from time to time or on holidays; get a black mark.
                        Be careful and extremely careful, say that you either do not use it at all (do not believe it) or do not remember the last time; maybe five or half a year ago, and then purely for medical purposes to prevent colds.
                        Seriously.
      2. Oldwiser
        Oldwiser 27 October 2014 17: 38
        0
        picture - offset!
  14. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 26 October 2014 13: 12
    +1
    I don’t understand the opponents of the FATHER, but if he was at the helm of Russia instead of drunk EBN, I would be sure there would be no Maidans in Hohland, and maybe the map of the Russian Federation would have been more natural and natural for a long time. But as they say, we have what we have, although there is a silver lining - after a drunken PUTIN appeared (did he sober up at the end of his days?) And insert a wedge between these Politicians and Patriots - pure provocation and sabotage. I write their names in BIG, CAPITAL letters precisely because they ALREADY DESERVED it, and what will happen next, we'll see, but it seems to me- EVERYTHING WILL BE WELL.
  15. PWG
    PWG 26 October 2014 13: 29
    +2
    With ukrov fascists there should only be a war until the complete destruction of all this duped scum and their leaders!
  16. alicante11
    alicante11 26 October 2014 14: 39
    0
    The actions of the Old Man are aimed at covering the flank of Russia in case of military operations in order to narrow the front, which must be covered by the Russian armed forces. It is clear that a full-fledged military conflict with NATO is hardly possible, but a conflict with pseudo-states like Poland, Ukraine, and spratlands, while escalating the Islamists in the south, is possible.
    However, there is little hope for this. If necessary, Belarus will be blown up without any reason. And so ours reinforce its military security.
  17. studentmati
    studentmati 26 October 2014 23: 55
    +1
    Quote: studentmati
    Not at all, Volodya!


    We are without extremism!

  18. studentmati
    studentmati 27 October 2014 00: 48
    +1
    Quote: DRA-88
    Quote: studentmati
    Got it, Vova, got it. Thank!

    Yeah !!!! laughing


    Normal, regular situation! laughing

    For maintaining BG here and always! drinks
  19. studentmati
    studentmati 27 October 2014 00: 52
    +1
    Quote: Normal
    I removed laughing from Klava


    To know, let’s go with you Volodya in reconnaissance!

    I hope our Century will manage? ...
    1. Normal
      Normal 27 October 2014 01: 13
      +1
      Quote: studentmati
      I hope our Century will manage? ...

      I hope.
      Yes, and not reconnaissance, I - simple, but "winged infantry" .... with a machine gun.
      That’s it, men. I'm in Lyuli. hi
    2. DRA-88
      DRA-88 27 October 2014 01: 18
      +1
      Quote: studentmati
      I hope our Century will manage? ...

      Better let's go get mushrooms .......
      It is healthier for health .......
  20. Prager
    Prager 27 October 2014 13: 44
    0
    it’s already scary. if there wasn’t war, for our people and our country it’s already enough, they have been fighting forward for all time.