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Chancellor in the Fog

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Chancellor in the FogOf all the countries of Western Europe in the current crisis, Germany remains not only the most prosperous, but also the most dynamic. Despite the fact that the crisis in the eurozone is far from over, the German economy continues to show steady growth, the Germans are literally keeping up with the Chinese in foreign trade.
That, however, is not surprising: a significant part of household appliances and equipment assembled in Chinese factories consists of German components.

From this, of course, it does not follow that Germany did not suffer from the crisis in any way. Wages, both real and nominal, declined significantly in 2008-2010 years, but have not grown much since then. Many workers were forced to move to part-time or accept the reduction in earnings in order to keep their jobs. The trade unions and the government went in this case to an agreement with entrepreneurs. And it must be admitted that the agreement was effective in the short term: the unemployment rate in Germany remains one of the lowest in the West.

Which, in turn, determines the stability of the position of Angela Merkel as Federal Chancellor.

Compatriots do not like this East German lady too much, and the citizens of the neighboring European countries simply hate.
But everyone has become accustomed to her and admit that she knows her business. A. Merkel for citizens of a federative republic is something like a necessary evil. With her somehow calmer.

Germany’s relative prosperity, however, relies too clearly on the exploitation of other EU countries. It is in German banks that ultimately settles the aid sent by Brussels to "rescue" the crashing economies of Spain and Greece. This is where capital is exported from neighboring countries. The financial system of the eurozone turned out to be a giant vacuum cleaner pumping funds from less developed and less successful countries to a dynamically developing and stable Germany.

As a result of this overflow of funds, unsuccessful states sink to the bottom even faster. And the German government, which receives taxes from its growing business, sends some of these funds back to countries in distress through state aid channels. This allows for some - and, by the way, quite a long time - to keep them afloat and to ensure further flow of funds through private channels to Germany. True, in the countries of Southern Europe there is a growing confidence that “the Germans are robbing us,” while in Germany itself the belief is growing that “we are feeding everyone.” But since the system is at least working, no one offers any alternatives. The Greek crisis has come to some semblance of stabilization, and even the left-wing radical party SYRIZA, which claims power in the event of new elections, does not propose any significant measures to change the rules of the game.

Against this background, the only, but more noticeable spot obscuring the clear sky of German politics is the situation in Ukraine. German newspapers get more and more unpleasant Newsclearly contrary to the official version of events.

The confrontation with Russia turns into quite noticeable losses, and the help of the ruling group in Kiev does not bring the expected success: the situation is getting worse and worse.
It is not difficult to guess that it was Germany, as the leading power of the European Union, who was at the helm of the Ukrainian policy of Brussels. The association agreement with the EU means the death sentence of Ukrainian industry, after which the millions of residents of this country are left with the role of consumers of German products and guest workers at German factories. True, for ordinary Germans, in contrast to the "captains of the industry," this prospect does not look very attractive either. After all, several million new migrant workers in conditions where rapid industrial growth is not observed turn into competitors in the labor market, and in the future we will have to expect a new wage cut. Actually, this is why the Ukrainian policy of Berlin and Brussels in the German society itself did not initially cause any enthusiasm.

It was reflected at the political level. Among all the Western Leftists, it was the Left Party of Germany who most strongly opposed the coup in Kiev and the subsequent support of the West for the punitive operation against Novorossia. The presence of the ultra-right in the composition of the new Kiev government could not but cause indignation of the intelligentsia, for which, for obvious reasons, the topic of Nazism remains of fundamental importance, respectively, anti-fascism is one of the fundamental values.

Likewise, attempts to strengthen anti-Russian sentiments in German society were not crowned with success. Still, here is still too well remembered history and they know what could be in conflict with Russia.

The discontent intensified even more when it became clear that the Ukrainian policy of Berlin, instead of the expected benefits, brings only losses. Sanctions against Russia hit the German enterprises themselves. More damage was caused by Moscow’s retaliatory sanctions. Moreover, it is not limited to direct losses for German agrofirms that have lost access to Russian markets. EU partners who have suffered from Russian sanctions require support and compensation, and all of this will have to be paid for Germany again, since it remains the main donor of the EU.

Helping the new government in Kiev is also expensive.

In addition, by contacting one of the most corrupt regimes in Europe - and, perhaps, in the world - German officials are unable to understand how much of the assistance provided really goes towards established goals, and how much is being stolen.
The principal difference from the situation with the help sent to Southern Europe is that if in the case of Spain or Greece German expenses are compensated by a much more powerful flow of funds going in the opposite direction, then Ukraine turns into a black hole for the German economy more and more resources without any return.

It is not surprising that the thought of revising the course in the Ukrainian question is visited by many heads in Berlin. And not only among the left. However, in order to make this turn in practice, the government of the Bundeskanzler needs to solve two problems, neither of which seems to be solved today.

The first problem is the reputation of the Bundeskanzler. Too obviously, too quickly and too rashly supported by Angela Merkel's new regime in Kiev. The miscalculation was obvious - both in terms of overestimating the chances of the Ukrainian nationalists, and in terms of underestimating Russia, its ability to resist Western policy. Admitting these mistakes now means seriously undermining the credibility of the current cabinet. As already mentioned, no one especially loves Frau Merkel, but they are afraid of her and trust her. If now she will be forced to publicly admit the defeat of her policy, all those who have saved their anger against her for many years, both inside and outside Germany, will not fail to take advantage of it. She will immediately be remembered for all other real and imaginary sins. And most importantly, it will cease to obey and fear: “Akela has missed!”.

Another problem is even worse. This is a relationship with Washington.

Over the past years, when Frau Merkel was in power, in Berlin, the US-German relations looked stable and durable. This does not mean that the serious contradictions that surfaced during the years of chancellorship of Gerhard Schroeder have disappeared somewhere. Not at all, the German elites are well aware of the differences between their own interests and those of the ruling circles of the United States, and they are not going to sacrifice their benefits and plans at all.

But, unlike the Social Democrat G. Schroeder, who at the beginning of the Iraq war was ready to come out with an open criticism of Washington and tried to rally his own coalition around Germany, the conservative government of A. Merkel prefers to combine backstage negotiations with NATO’s declarative commitment. Berlin does not intend to quarrel openly with its American partners. Moreover, in exchange for this loyalty, he always expects to receive US support in the event of any European crises.

But the crisis arose in Ukraine, and it was discovered that American allied aid turns the German ruling class into hostages. Unlike Germany, the American ruling circles can afford to further escalate the crisis. They do not bear much damage from it. It is the Germans who pay the bills, it is the German enterprises that incur losses because of the sanctions. Such a weakening of an ally, who is also a competitor in combination, can only please the decision makers in Washington.

While Berlin is slowly trying to find points of support in order to get out of the “Ukrainian swamp”, Washington is doing everything possible so that the Europeans will plunge there even deeper.
True, the long-term results of such a policy may turn out to be so deplorable that the ruling circles of the USA will not like it either. Indeed, the deepening of the political crisis against the background of unresolved economic problems is fraught with serious upheavals and, who knows, maybe even the collapse of the European Union. But now in Washington, few people think strategically. And the tactical benefits are too obvious.

Not daring to openly confront the United States, and not feeling the determination to go further in its wake, the government of A. Merkel finds itself in a fog of uncertainty. It will have to move forward by touch, avoiding sudden movements, try to adjust its course without changing it, and hope that Moscow’s concessions will allow them to get out of this whole story if not winners, then at least without shame. But it is not at all obvious that all these problems of the German government will be taken into account by Washington, not to mention Moscow or, especially, by political forces in Ukraine.

So, the Ukrainian crisis is gradually becoming the intra-German crisis.
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  1. vorobey
    vorobey 25 October 2014 19: 03
    +13
    melted in a distant fog Rybachy ... like in this song ... only not Rybachy but Merkel.
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 25 October 2014 19: 44
      +21
      A big mistake of the Germans, who made a woman of this mindset to the post of chancellor.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 25 October 2014 19: 46
        +13
        Quote: Giant thought
        A big mistake of the Germans, who made a woman of this mindset to the post of chancellor.


        I also thought about her better ....
        1. WKS
          WKS 25 October 2014 20: 01
          +6
          Maybe already the effects of insanity are manifested?
          1. de klermon
            de klermon 25 October 2014 20: 06
            +24
            Merkel is adequate and free from the United States as much as the gauleiter of the occupied territory can be free ...
            But in general, yes, Angela is undoubtedly a real man, and the most successful in modern occupied Europe!
            1. bekjan
              bekjan 27 October 2014 13: 57
              +1
              only Marin Le Pen can compete with her masculinity.
              1. Sailor Zheleznyak
                Sailor Zheleznyak 27 October 2014 14: 27
                +3
                This aunt has always preferred to serve the authorities. As the daughter of a Protestant priest, she perfectly combined her "worldview" with work in leading positions of the Union of German Youth (analogue of the Komsomol). As soon as the west wind blew, she immediately switched to the most conservative party in Germany, CSU. Now she again chose open licking at ... the Americans as a vector of foreign policy. In Germany, everyone is already tired of her, because the third term of her chancellorship, which is by no means determined by a popular vote, is set from the United States. The Germans did not call her "the iron lady", but the toad.
        2. bulvas
          bulvas 25 October 2014 20: 09
          +13
          She needs to read the story more closely.

          The allies are good, but we must first think carefully, and who is the enemy ...


          1. vorobey
            vorobey 25 October 2014 20: 31
            +3
            Quote: bulvas
            She needs to read the story more closely.


            at least you wouldn’t joke on a woman ... I’ve recently learned to use a fork, but you’re still reading, reading repeat
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 25 October 2014 21: 49
              +14
              Quote: vorobey
              at least you wouldn’t joke on a woman ... I’ve recently learned to use a fork, but you’re still reading, reading



              The plug is nonsense, it seems, again Germany wants to pit Germany and Russia, and again the same puppeteers.


              1. vorobey
                vorobey 25 October 2014 22: 21
                +4
                Quote: bulvas
                Germany again want to play with Russia


                But the Germans themselves want it? do not want...
                1. bulvas
                  bulvas 25 October 2014 22: 36
                  +4
                  and the Germans themselves want to work, earn money and not conflict with anyone
                  as well as the Poles and the French and the Russians and everyone else

                  Unless, of course, their business is politics


                2. OlegLex
                  OlegLex 28 October 2014 16: 34
                  0
                  want amers do not want a drum, Ukrainians over twenty years taught to hate their own mother, AND THERE IS AN ALL COMPLEX OF THE WINNERS
              2. forest park 86
                forest park 86 25 October 2014 22: 54
                -2
                It is not difficult to bleed. Russia and Germany cannot be friends by definition.
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 25 October 2014 23: 33
                  +10
                  Quote: 86 Forest Park
                  It is not difficult to bleed. Russia and Germany cannot be friends by definition.


                  let them learn geography
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              3. Sergey Vl.
                Sergey Vl. 27 October 2014 20: 31
                0
                You want to say - a fork is a fork, and a hundred-year-old rake still lies unnoticed under your feet?
            2. forest park 86
              forest park 86 25 October 2014 22: 53
              +3
              Well, I don’t know about the plug .... But in politics there are no women. Like on the road.
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          3. Silkway0026
            Silkway0026 25 October 2014 21: 09
            +10
            And America is not their ally, and history does not teach anything. Greed prevails so much that the brain bounces off and the animal nature climbs from all cracks ... Cultural Europe, bl ....
          4. asiat_61
            asiat_61 26 October 2014 02: 26
            0
            the question is very good.
        3. Blondy
          Blondy 25 October 2014 21: 01
          +16
          Remember the NSA wiretap scandal, and in Valdai, Putin spoke of blackmailing certain leaders from the US side.
          So, this separate leader, it seems, is Merkel.
          1. avg
            avg 25 October 2014 22: 47
            0
            The FSB had to work out the operation to discredit Merkel for a long time. The German left is convinced that Merkel is on Obama’s hook. They just need to help a little, and the creation of a commission in the Bundestag to verify the activities of the Bundescan Chancellor is ensured for her, and if Merkel does not have to leave early, then the hemorrhoids, and she and the CDU will receive a noble. Their activities will be forced to become more limited and cautious, and our allies will receive new opportunities in future elections.
          2. klavyr
            klavyr 26 October 2014 07: 21
            0
            Remember the NSA wiretap scandal, and in Valdai, Putin spoke of blackmailing certain leaders from the US side.
            So, this separate leader, it seems, is Merkel.
            -and not only Frau are "on the hook," VVP apparently learned something from Snowden
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      3. Siberian German
        Siberian German 25 October 2014 20: 27
        +7
        they are the former Komsomolskmskeepers - what is Russia in the GDR - when the 90s arrived quickly the bourgeois got involved not without the help of mattresses - and what kind of dog the owner will bite but at the same time the dog also understands that it doesn’t live like that - but nothing can't do
        1. Tyumen
          Tyumen 25 October 2014 20: 58
          +5
          Quote: Siberian German
          when the 90s arrived quickly the bourgeois shut up

          The bourgeois is impossible * to shut up *. The bourgeois can become the hard work of several generations, and in the 90s there simply appeared nouveau riches.
      4. Prapor-527
        Prapor-527 25 October 2014 20: 38
        +19
        Quote: Thought Giant
        A big mistake of the Germans, who made a woman of this mindset to the post of chancellor.

        I agree. Women are different ...
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      6. siberalt
        siberalt 25 October 2014 21: 13
        +9
        Merkel is not the worst option. The USSR has forgiven Germany for fascism, and the United States and England have so far collected indemnities from it in various forms. Russia also pays tribute to the United States, after the victory in 1993. That's why our Central Bank. But at least we have no NATO bases.
        1. Prapor-527
          Prapor-527 25 October 2014 22: 17
          +4
          Quote: siberalt
          USSR forgave fascism to Germany
          Apparently, this is the Baltic states and Ukraine forgave fascism to Germany (although Ukraine did not forgive, but forgot) ... But the Russians remember everything ... And they will remember. And Lenin and Stalin ...
        2. boni592807
          boni592807 27 October 2014 19: 28
          +1
          hi
          http://ulpressa.ru/2014/05/14/rsn-politolog-baza-nato-v-ulyanovske-kozyir-v-ruka
          ve-rossii /
          May 14, 2014 RSN: “Political scientist: NATO base in Ulyanovsk is a trump card in the sleeve of Russia” what
          The requirement to liquidate the NATO transshipment base in Russia can be used as a retaliatory sanction against Western countries, Konstantin Sivkov, doctor of military sciences, vice president of the Academy of Geopolitical Problems, told the Russian News Service.

          “The element of the US military base in our territory is nonsense. This logistics support point is of exceptional importance to NATO forces in Afghanistan. It is intended for non-military cargo and personnel. The ban on transit through Russia to Afghanistan is a trump card in our sleeve, which we can use as a sanction against NATO countries, ”Sivkov explained.

          Earlier it was reported that the end of 2014 is scheduled for the withdrawal of NATO troops from Afghanistan. One of the two escape routes is Ulyanovsk. The agreement on the use of the NATO transshipment base in Ulyanovsk is still in force, despite statements by NATO leaders to curtail all cooperation programs with Moscow due to the situation in Ukraine.

          In case of blocking the northern route of withdrawal of personnel and military equipment through Russia, NATO will have the only way out - the mountain roads of Pakistan.

          http://rusnovosti.ru/news/318040/
      7. vicontas
        vicontas 26 October 2014 01: 38
        +3
        And who said that the Germans put Merkel to the post? Judging by how she breaks into a cake, extending sanctions against Russia to the detriment of German interests, but to the pleasure of the United States, completely different people allowed her to the post of chancellor!
        1. tkhonov66
          tkhonov66 28 October 2014 12: 49
          0
          "...
          And who said that the Germans put Merkel to the post? Judging by how she breaks into a cake, extending sanctions against Russia to the detriment of German interests, but to the pleasure of the United States, completely different people allowed her to the post of chancellor!
          ..."
          .
          EVERY FUTURE (!) German Chancellor - BEFORE JOINING - is obliged (!) To settle the United States ... for approval ...
          - Germany is a country occupied by the USA-NATO ...
          8 - ((
    2. Observer2014
      Observer2014 25 October 2014 22: 42
      +5
      Chancellor in the fog. Chancellor along the way in the ass, not in the fog! Or in the foggy ass as you do not twist!
  2. rasputin17
    rasputin17 25 October 2014 19: 03
    +9
    Yes!!! It is hard to be chancellor and have time to give to all the rulers of the world !! from the east Vovan from the west barakych !!
    1. Rus2012
      Rus2012 25 October 2014 19: 21
      +11
      Quote: rasputin17
      It's hard to be chancellor

      ... here - http://versia.ru/articles/2014/oct/21/komsomolka_po_imeni_angela
      in the article "Komsomol member named Angela"
      Aunt Anya was smeared and smeared in the dermis by her former boss, German Chancellor Helmut Kohl. Yes, and the aunt was also not without flaws -
      That part of the memoirs in which Kohl writes that de Angela Merkel was ill-educated and did not know how to use a knife and fork properly, trying to grab food from the table with her hands, practically everything was replicated - both in Germany and far beyond its borders.

      But for some reason almost no one mentioned the main thing - that Kohl directly indicated that his "pupil" involved in cooperation with American intelligence agencies.

      well, and then in the same spirit - "hooking up", betraying, and in bed, too, very peculiar ...
      Merkel has a husband - Joachim Sauer. The first wife divorced him after she caught Sauer in bed with a man. But Merkel, already married to Sauer, did not even invite him to her inauguration.
      “High relations!” Once the wife of ex-Chancellor Schroeder, Doris Schroeder-Köpf, stated plainly that “the personal life of Angela Merkel does not correspond
      the experience of most women. ” And the German press began to slander: they say, they are an ideal couple - a fagot Sauer and lesbian Merkel. And what is remarkable - they do not sue the press. So, is it true? .. In general, in the personal life of the first woman chancellor, too, everything is complicated.



      It seems that the GDP was also disappointed in it, so they gave the command to bring it down. It’s not for nothing that Georgy Filin published this article in Versions ...
      1. Denis fj
        Denis fj 25 October 2014 19: 58
        +15
        Regarding the NSA wiretapping of Chancellor Merkel’s phone, one American official once let slip that for an occupied country, wiretapping is the norm.
        The crisis in Ukraine, like a litmus test, once again showed everyone who is who.
        When the civilians of Donetsk and Lugansk die every day, and Western leaders pretend that they don’t know about it, they come out as accomplices of these crimes ...
      2. Silkway0026
        Silkway0026 25 October 2014 21: 22
        +11
        It seems that GDP is also disappointed in it


        Apparently, yes. Putin, as you know, is a big fan of symbolic gestures, hints. Notice, he was late for the first time to meet her in Milan the other day. Sure - for good reason, but deliberately humiliated.
        1. Tyumen
          Tyumen 25 October 2014 22: 59
          +5
          Quote: Silkway0026
          Sure - for good reason, but deliberately humiliated

          Right. At this level, there are no * random * latenesses. Any step and gesture is worked out by a team of image makers (what a nasty word). As well as a U-turn over Primakov’s Atlantic or a late drunken EBN pissing on a plane’s wheel.
          1. 23 region
            23 region 25 October 2014 23: 41
            +6
            Quote: Tyumen
            Quote: Silkway0026
            Sure - for good reason, but deliberately humiliated

            Right. At this level, there are no * random * latenesses. Any step and gesture is worked out by a team of image makers(what a nasty word). As well as a U-turn over Primakov’s Atlantic or a late drunken EBN pissing on a plane’s wheel.

            I wonder which of the image makers (I agree, a nasty word) advised EBN
            piss on the wheel? Seen with humor was a man.
            1. Tyumen
              Tyumen 26 October 2014 00: 03
              +1
              Maybe improvisation?)
              1. 23 region
                23 region 26 October 2014 00: 23
                0
                Quote: Tyumen
                Maybe improvisation?)

                It is unlikely. Someone, with humor, sneered at the "master". It is a pity that there were no iPhones then, otherwise there would be a "picture" from all angles.
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    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 25 October 2014 19: 23
      +18
      With all the power of the US influence on Germany, Mrs. Merkel should not forget that she is Chancellor, not a servant at the table at Obama.
    3. persei
      persei 25 October 2014 19: 41
      +1
      She doesn’t give Vova yet, but only sucks about Obamych ...
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 25 October 2014 19: 50
        +8
        Quote: persei
        She doesn’t give Vova yet, but only sucks about Obamych ...


        after obamycha and I would disdain ....
        1. Kostyar
          Kostyar 25 October 2014 20: 37
          +3
          after obamycha and I would disdain ....


          At least pick up an ebola ....
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 25 October 2014 20: 41
            +3
            Quote: Bone
            At least pick up an ebola ....


            I'm more afraid of idiocy tongue

            all illnesses from nerves one tripper from pleasure ..
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          3. 23 region
            23 region 25 October 2014 23: 43
            0
            Quote: Bone
            At least pick up an ebola ....

            So it will be more accurate.
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      3. demoniac1666
        demoniac1666 25 October 2014 20: 09
        +3
        Quote: persei
        She doesn’t give Vova yet, but only sucks about Obamych ...

        Uncle Vova would disdain, it would be better to take money))))))))))))))))))))))))
        1. Tyumen
          Tyumen 25 October 2014 21: 00
          +1
          Hussars do not take money.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 25 October 2014 21: 12
            +2
            Quote: Tyumen
            Hussars do not take money.


            Moreover, this "pale-faced" hussar has had her money for a long time in the sense of Germany ...
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    4. 341712
      341712 26 October 2014 08: 53
      0
      Like BE one in one hole, the other in another ... When will the Germans have patience?
  3. ALEXX.
    ALEXX. 25 October 2014 19: 04
    +12
    Germany is well done, their gas goes straight along the Northern Stream. And they have Europe in all positions.
    1. svp67
      svp67 25 October 2014 19: 13
      +7
      Quote: ALEXX.
      Germany is well done, their gas goes straight along the Northern Stream. And they have Europe in all positions.
      That's right, now seeing the weakness of the US position, Germany is trying to get the maximum out of the Ukrainian crisis.
    2. wanderer
      wanderer 25 October 2014 20: 00
      +2
      maybe they have, but so far it’s not visible ... it’s clear that Obama has it in all holes, and he only squeals.
  4. Keeper
    Keeper 25 October 2014 19: 05
    +7
    It is difficult for Merkel to explain to her fellow citizens why their gold reserve is in a foreign country! Apparently they don’t trust themselves ...,
    And so you have to play on other people's notes ..... A pity!
    1. svp67
      svp67 25 October 2014 19: 14
      +3
      Quote: Keeper
      It is difficult for Merkel to explain to her fellow citizens why their gold reserve is in a foreign country! Apparently they don’t trust themselves ...,
      Not at all, the citizens of Germany understand everything perfectly
      Quote: Keeper
      And so you have to play on other people's notes .....
      Partially. Indeed, there are a lot of US soldiers on the territory of Germany, but this does not mean that they are not trying to achieve maximum benefit for themselves.
    2. zzz
      zzz 25 October 2014 19: 28
      +11
      Quote: Keeper
      It is difficult for Merkel to explain to her fellow citizens why their gold reserve is in a foreign country! Apparently they don’t trust themselves ...,
      And so you have to play on other people's notes ..... A pity!


      When Putin yesterday at the forum said that the United States was engaged in blackmailing the leaders of other countries, even immediately thought of Merkel.
  5. Carlos
    Carlos 25 October 2014 19: 07
    +15
    Germany, as well as Japan, is a de facto occupied country. The United States has a gold reserve and, apparently, has already been spent. The states have a strong influence on German politicians. Therefore, it is difficult for Germany to get closer to us. But the war with us knows how the Germans ended , and more than once.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 19: 55
      +4
      Quote: Carlos
      Germany, as well as Japan, is a de facto occupied country. The United States has a gold reserve and, apparently, has already been spent. The states have a strong influence on German politicians. Therefore, it is difficult for Germany to get closer to us. But the war with us knows how the Germans ended , and more than once.

      In short, if something had happened to the United States, the Germans, having grieved a little about their lost capital and gold reserves, would have sighed with relief ...
      It’s especially joyful, I think, that they would have met the evacuation of the American military (whoever happened to be in America will have what and what kind of bucks).
      1. Grbear
        Grbear 25 October 2014 20: 31
        +1
        In short, if something had happened to the United States, the Germans, having grieved a little about their lost capital and gold reserves, would have sighed with relief ...

        Well the girl gets killed
        He will doubt a little and wipe his tears
        And then with a sigh he will open the door for another ...
        Nothing Obama. You don't care now ...
        crying
        City chanson "We received a lot of bad news yesterday" § hi

        ps And Frau is held tight by ... Weak to the front, and the language is apparently rather weak.
  6. FACKtoREAL
    FACKtoREAL 25 October 2014 19: 08
    +6
    OCCUPIED country .. What can I say ?! request
    NATO - kaput!? drinks
  7. coffee
    coffee 25 October 2014 19: 09
    +4
    She was just about to get married.
  8. tanit
    tanit 25 October 2014 19: 11
    +4
    For an occupied country, normal rhetoric, or anything new. It is surprising how they (the Germans) also manage to show their teeth sometimes, despite the occupation.
    1. 23 region
      23 region 25 October 2014 23: 46
      0
      Quote: tanit
      For an occupied country, normal rhetoric, or anything new. It is surprising how they (the Germans) also manage to show their teeth sometimes, despite the occupation.

      This is not a grin; it is they who smile so much.
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  9. provincial
    provincial 25 October 2014 19: 15
    +3
    The compatriots do not like this East German lady, and the citizens of neighboring European countries simply hate. CORRECTLY.
  10. fvandaku
    fvandaku 25 October 2014 19: 15
    +8
    HOW YOU ARE SUCCESSFUL AN ARTICLE ONLY OUT, OPENING FULL OF COMMENTS. laughing fellow wassat
    1. coffee
      coffee 25 October 2014 19: 21
      +5
      We add, and when we read, we move on to other articles. Here is blitz chess.
  11. hard
    hard 25 October 2014 19: 17
    +3
    The Germans go to the shit ..., oh, keeping up with the Chinese.
  12. Uzer 13.
    Uzer 13. 25 October 2014 19: 19
    +6
    Merkel still has nothing to lose, she has nothing to go to the next election. The time has come to take care of herself, her beloved, and earn some money for old age.
  13. Dezinto
    Dezinto 25 October 2014 19: 22
    +8
    Meanwhile, a leopard has already been knocked out in Ukraine. What's this? Did the Germans accidentally forget them there after the exercises?

    As in the old, not good times.

    1. 290980
      290980 25 October 2014 19: 30
      +7
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Meanwhile, a leopard has already been knocked out in Ukraine. What's this? Did the Germans accidentally forget them there after the exercises?

      As in the old, not good times.


      not even one but as many as 3, didn’t confuse Kv?
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 25 October 2014 19: 38
        +6
        Well .... New Russia attacked Germany. repeat

        (but there is a possibility that this is not a Leopard, but a modernized Bulat tank with a body kit unusual for such a technique)

        1. 23 region
          23 region 25 October 2014 23: 50
          +1
          Quote: vorobey
          Well .... New Russia attacked Germany. repeat

          (but there is a possibility that this is not a Leopard, but a modernized Bulat tank with a body kit unusual for such a technique)

          That is to say, "passed over" to the NATO standard.
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      3. Dezinto
        Dezinto 25 October 2014 19: 39
        +5
        Aw, damn it for sure! This is a captured KV-1. ! hi
        1. 290980
          290980 25 October 2014 19: 44
          +2
          Quote: DEZINTO
          Aw, damn it for sure! This is a captured KV-1. ! hi

          yes it will go ... better beaten Leo post wonder how they soaked him
      4. ohtandur
        ohtandur 27 October 2014 14: 44
        0
        also noticed that the picture resembles apt-1, apparently trophy.
    2. tanit
      tanit 25 October 2014 19: 31
      +6
      Forgive me, but somehow I can’t believe it. I'm talking about a lined Leopard. It looks like in the sky above Libya, the MIG-35 brings down Qatari aircraft. smile (El Murid wrote - is it true? wassat )
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 25 October 2014 19: 44
        +3
        The fact of the matter is that so far there is no photo or video, so of course there can be doubts.

        But here the men say it was the case. They do not look like liars.

        About the Leopard - 3:23



        What does the Polish armored personnel carrier BMP, .... pff so easily could give a ride ...
        1. 290980
          290980 25 October 2014 19: 49
          0
          Quote: DEZINTO
          Well, of course, there can be doubts.

          But here the men say it was the case. They do not look like liars.

          About the Leopard - 3:23


          Guys confused likely PT91m or failed
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 25 October 2014 19: 53
            +5
            peasants well, there are no pictures anywhere ... if the Lerda had been dumped already on the network it would be ...
            1. typhoon7
              typhoon7 25 October 2014 20: 13
              +4
              Right. if "Leo" had been knocked out, it would have been showing off on all resources for a long time, but the Polish one might even have been burned.
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          3. Dezinto
            Dezinto 25 October 2014 19: 57
            +6
            PT91m?

            Well, yes, in principle, in the heat of battle they could have confused ... a bit like ... again, Polish ... it can easily be. The Poles there are fighting with might and main, the militias speak a speech, the uniform and weapons are different ...
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                1. 290980
                  290980 25 October 2014 20: 20
                  +5
                  Quote: DEZINTO


                  Moreover, it was developed on the basis of the outdated Soviet export tank T-72M1, supplied by the Soviet Union to Poland in the 80s.

                  Such a hodgepodge on the tracks.



                  here in this perspective can be confused

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                  2. Denis fj
                    Denis fj 26 October 2014 01: 13
                    0
                    or maybe he drowned in a swamp ....... laughing
  14. andrei332809
    andrei332809 25 October 2014 19: 23
    +3
    Germany, as the leading power of the European Union, was at the helm of Ukrainian policy in Brussels.

    the author of the Britons forgot. you are very active in dill and finance.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 25 October 2014 19: 55
      +3
      Quote: andrei332809
      they are very active


      Well, someone must be active repeat
      Hi Andrey .. heard what your favorite babbled today?
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 25 October 2014 20: 14
        +1
        Quote: vorobey
        Hi Andrew

        healthy hi
        Quote: vorobey
        heard what your favorite babbled today?

        Well, of course, how can I miss it. And you all attacked the poor thing. One, the infection, which Mikhan, even wanted to blow in her, she wants to cross my path am
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        2. vorobey
          vorobey 25 October 2014 20: 23
          +2
          Quote: andrei332809
          desired — wants me to cross the road


          maybe he was drunk ... got excited ..
          1. andrei332809
            andrei332809 25 October 2014 20: 37
            +1
            Quote: vorobey
            maybe vypshim was ..

            everything can be what
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 25 October 2014 20: 44
              +2
              Quote: andrei332809
              everything can be


              don’t worry, we don’t pretend ... well, except that it’s pure neighing ... laughing
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          2. Starik72
            Starik72 27 October 2014 17: 57
            0
            Hey MARSHALS do not chew here!
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    3. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 20: 10
      +1
      Quote: andrei332809
      Germany, as the leading power of the European Union, was at the helm of Ukrainian policy in Brussels.

      the author of the Britons forgot. you are very active in dill and finance.

      Well, there’s someone who, and the little shavens sat better and did not rock the boat - their empire was ... they themselves became the semi-colony of one of their former colonies, where all the trash had left England before, and there ...
      One arrogance, and stiffness only remained, Scotland was saved only by fraud in their kingdom. And the ambition, the ambition! ...
  15. Officer
    Officer 25 October 2014 19: 25
    +13
    Germany all its history stepping on a Russian rake. Either the British will divorce them, then the Americans. And the result is always the same - we are recovering, and the Anglo-Americans are fattening. Will the Germans have brains or not?
  16. Bronik
    Bronik 25 October 2014 19: 25
    +8
    the Ukrainian crisis is gradually becoming an intra-German crisis.

    Europe get ready, soon ALL the problems of Dill will fall on your dull shoulders, a heavy burden. Someone will come to you, and not for work, but for meat pies. They will remind you of torchlight processions, then howl. And Merkel has already begun to understand this.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 20: 13
      +2
      Quote: bronik
      the Ukrainian crisis is gradually becoming an intra-German crisis.

      Europe get ready, soon ALL the problems of Dill will fall on your dull shoulders, a heavy burden. Someone will come to you, and not for work, but for meat pies. They will remind you of torchlight processions, then howl. And Merkel has already begun to understand this.

      Poland has already faced Bandera from Svoboda and the PS, or else it will be! ...
  17. Stinger
    Stinger 25 October 2014 19: 26
    +5
    Yes reminds a hedgehog in a fog. She doesn’t do anything intelligible from everything. Changed the smartphone and the whole protest. But glvnyuk said: we, s ..., listened to you and we will listen, we will not see the age of freedom!
  18. Federal
    Federal 25 October 2014 19: 27
    +9
    The Germans will no longer be able to softly get out of this situation; they will have to slam the doors loudly, possibly with broken dishes. They wanted to fool around quietly, with fingers, bogged down to the very shoulders.
    Similarly, attempts to strengthen anti-Russian sentiment in German society were unsuccessful. Nevertheless, history is still remembered too well here and they know what the conflict with Russia might threaten.
  19. Havoc
    Havoc 25 October 2014 19: 28
    +11
    This GDR Komsomol member most likely was a Stasi informant and the Americans know about it, and if they make it public, there will be a big scandal, otherwise how to explain such a reversal in relations, what
    Germany is the locomotive of sanctions in Europe, sacrificing its economic interests, because everyone understands that the Germans, by and large, do not care about Ukraine.
  20. Lyolik
    Lyolik 25 October 2014 19: 29
    +9
    The fog is foggy, and Merkel is working properly for Germany; it’s easier not to see Ukraine in the fog, let it sink in the swamp, because the people of the European Union do not want to pay for Ukraine, those are free gifts. And then Merkel opened her eyes to the people of the European Union.
    Finally, they saw it, but how did Russia and the Russians feed the Ukrainians for free, but what is weak for you? You are special, let’s feed, you’ll look like we did in our time, in the 90s (all according to coupons).
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 20: 17
      +1
      Quote: Lyolik
      The fog is foggy, and Merkel is working properly for Germany; it’s easier not to see Ukraine in the fog, let it sink in the swamp, because the people of the European Union do not want to pay for Ukraine, those are free gifts. And then Merkel opened her eyes to the people of the European Union.
      Finally, they saw it, but how did Russia and the Russians feed the Ukrainians for free, but what is weak for you? You are special, let’s feed, you’ll look like we did in our time, in the 90s (all according to coupons).

      So they are not relatives to Ukrainians ...
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  22. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 25 October 2014 19: 31
    +8
    Well, it was clear at the very beginning of the boules brewed by Brussels with the European integration of Ukraine without the participation of Russia. Merkel all seemed simple - they signed a European integration agreement and everything immediately fell into place she had conceived. Only fools in a gerop, but the United States thought so. Merkel needed to stop at the moment when Yanukovych refused to immediately sign an agreement with the geyropa, but no, Merkel bit a bit with a monkey horse and Obama Obama and helped to make a coup in Ukraine. And then the collapse of Ukraine began, which was so unexpected for Merkel, Obama, and especially when Crimea went to Russia. Merkel will soon be unhappy with you, like a black monkey, when a stinky geyropa bumps economically, which Obama wanted.
  23. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 25 October 2014 19: 36
    +5
    Merkel really dramatically changed rhetoric and attitude towards Russia. After talking with the striped-eared monkey. No wonder they listened to her.
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 25 October 2014 20: 21
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Merkel really dramatically changed rhetoric and attitude towards Russia. After talking with the striped-eared monkey. No wonder they listened to her.

      Cynical, but banal blackmail - nothing new.
  24. Prussian
    Prussian 25 October 2014 19: 40
    0
    I’m an ardent opponent of feminism. A woman is a tool of a tempter. He did not go to Adam and did not seduce him directly, he knew that he would rather act through an Adam woman. I am sure that a society where women play a large role is deeply painful, by definition, in the strength of the inviolability of biblical truths. Poor, poor Germans.
    1. zzz
      zzz 25 October 2014 20: 03
      +3
      Quote: PRUSSAC
      I am sure that a society where women play a large role is deeply painful by definition, due to the inviolability of biblical truths. Poor, poor Germans.


      The Amazons were much earlier before the bible appeared. Therefore, let me disagree with you.))))
      1. Prussian
        Prussian 25 October 2014 20: 24
        0
        Even if this is allowed, it only confirms my point. Humanity abandoned this model of society because of its cruelty and bloodthirstiness, it is known that matriarchy was preserved only among wild tribes where cannibalism was allowed. And all women from power are just a diabolical trade, EVERYTHING Messalins to Tymoshenko.
        1. viruvalge412ee
          viruvalge412ee 25 October 2014 22: 15
          0
          from the cute look of Tymoshenko, who was under SSssaa ... a mattress to the realities of life in Ukraine, it is far now and in the long run. The women on the ship are always bad!
    2. Michael_59
      Michael_59 26 October 2014 06: 46
      0
      Ahahaha! Go pull the shutter and calm down. Found the root of world evil, man ...
  25. coffee
    coffee 25 October 2014 19: 41
    +7
    Chancellor in fog and "Ukraine was covered by a storm - 226 settlements are de-energized"
    http://pravdanews.info/ukrainu-nakryl-shtorm--obestocheny-226-naselennykh-punkto
    v.html
    1. kompotnenado
      kompotnenado 25 October 2014 19: 55
      +5
      It’s Putin who set up everything. He has long agreed on a harsh winter in Ukraine.
      1. Dubrovsky
        Dubrovsky 25 October 2014 21: 01
        +1
        aimed at something sucks? We have been in Chelyabinsk for a week already winter ((((((
        1. shasherin_pavel
          shasherin_pavel 27 October 2014 18: 47
          0
          Severe men in Chelyabinsk: they either throw meteorites, or they write out winter on the Internet. There are three days of frost and snow in Skolsky, and today it is +5 and rain all day.
  26. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 25 October 2014 19: 41
    +6
    They say they have forgotten, it will be more difficult to explain how he got to Donbass from the Western Outskirts. Yes, they will not make excuses because of one tank, they have a whole story both before and after the coup with "white threads" and, in addition, rotten ones. You need to be careful with the sale of gas, maybe you should consult with the main exporters, and raise the price of bucks by 20-30! Yes, let MADAME from the EU treasury pay debts for gas from the Outskirts, and preferably immediately, but no, let them svidomity still months "skip", in the cold it seems better.
    1. tanit
      tanit 25 October 2014 19: 47
      +4
      Or maybe not about the Leopard? I myself am a patriot, and even often a patriot with the prefix cheers - but to drive about the Leopard ... Fear God, then laughing
  27. morprepud
    morprepud 25 October 2014 19: 57
    +2
    So, the Ukrainian crisis is gradually becoming the intra-German crisis.
    And if the word Chancellor recalled "a man in a helmet of the First World War", now "grandma merkel in the market with dill"
  28. Andrea
    Andrea 25 October 2014 19: 58
    +2
    You can’t say anything, it’s hard for the old woman, and who said that it would be easy. I put it on d * ebils, and here Putin is stubborn, and there is an American hook, flutter now.
  29. rus-5819
    rus-5819 25 October 2014 19: 59
    +5
    The relative prosperity of Germany, however, is too explicitly based on the exploitation of other EU countries.

    [quote] in exchange for this loyalty, he always expects to receive US support in the event of any European crises. [quote]

    [quote] here they still remember the history too well and know what the conflict with Russia might threaten. [quote]


    [quote] Gold reserves in the States and, apparently, have already been spent. [quote]

    [quote] German officials are incapable of understanding which part of the assistance provided is really intended and what is simply being stolen. [quote]

    Anyuta listened to dad's tales about the "blitzkrieg", though dad did not have time to tell the tale to the end. Advice: Anyuta, read Bismarck!
  30. coffee
    coffee 25 October 2014 20: 09
    +5
    And the hedgehog is clear that this is the Maidan.
    1. tanit
      tanit 25 October 2014 20: 18
      +1
      Not, but "our everything" why so?
      Although she smiled.
    2. The point
      The point 28 October 2014 11: 38
      0
      Quote: coffee
      And the hedgehog is clear that this is Maidan

      "Our everything" is a sane hedgehog.
  31. wanderer
    wanderer 25 October 2014 20: 13
    +2
    It’s hard for Frau to the chancellor ... rushing about to call V. Putin like a flea on a crest every week ... can you imagine how much euro she spoke on her mobile ???

    (probably)
  32. mamont5
    mamont5 25 October 2014 20: 27
    +2
    Off topic ...

    "According to unconfirmed information, the former commander of the Donbass People's Militia and Defense Minister of the DPR Igor Ivanovich Strelkov returned from a short-term vacation from the Russian Federation.

    “I didn’t return empty-handed. He now has a special mission. He will coordinate the counter-offensive of the LPR and DPR militia forces as a military adviser. At the moment there is a joint special operation of the militia forces, "- said a source in Novorossiya."
    http://pravdanews.info/smi-igor-strelkov-otozvan-iz-otpuska.html
    1. tommy717
      tommy717 26 October 2014 05: 41
      0
      On the Strelkov website info write that Strelkov himself found out about this only from the Internet
      1. mamont5
        mamont5 26 October 2014 06: 05
        0
        Quote: tommy717
        On the Strelkov website info write that Strelkov himself found out about this only from the Internet


        Sorry. So again, a false stuffing. And I was really happy.
  33. kotev19
    kotev19 25 October 2014 20: 32
    0
    In the Ukrainian swamp, all Western technology will sink, but there are also cases when it "floats" on the other side of the world ... lol
  34. sv68
    sv68 25 October 2014 20: 42
    +1
    Yes, it’s not as simple as many naively think, try to lead a country like Hansia, and most importantly what it does. It’s just that in politics Merkel turned out to be Merkeltutka, fell under a banana. And she didn’t listen to her businessmen and industrialists in vain, with your sanctions. here if you turn on the brain and give the back, spitting on the fried, then maybe they will stop spreading it for softness.
    1. mch1950
      mch1950 25 October 2014 22: 00
      0
      "Klava Merkel" is afraid, something strongly of her, the former Komsomol member was pressed.
  35. mch1950
    mch1950 25 October 2014 21: 58
    0
    One gets the impression that Merkel has serious skeletons in the closet and is blackmailing her with these skeletons.
    It can be assumed that one of the skeletons is cooperation with the Stasi.
  36. viruvalge412ee
    viruvalge412ee 25 October 2014 22: 03
    +2
    The poor German aunt resisted as long as she could. Obama-nids with their fake candy wrappers (without gold) fucked her political virginity. Stinking mattresses still have some opportunities to make moves through pieces of paper, mattress covers and arabesques. Soon, soon! Mattresses will begin to rot (already!), Mattress covers too, and, arabesques, strip-in taverns. This is a favorable development. An adverse close event — the second phase of World War 3 — JUST A REAL WAR.
  37. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 25 October 2014 22: 15
    +1
    Language is my enemy.
    It can be seen that Frau Merkel picked up the states well.
    Step right or left - crash! The political corpse.
  38. faterdom
    faterdom 25 October 2014 22: 24
    +3
    Germany, for the third time in a hundred years, was stuck in a war with Russia. So far, the economic, but in the Donbass and shoot at all.
    And she could be a good and reliable ally and partner. She did not want.
    And it remains for her to lose for the third time, after which we do not insist on the territorial integrity of Germany - the path to our Saxony, Bavaria and Thuringia will fall apart, with the obligatory eternal return of all (!) Prussia (except eastern, which is ours already after the 45th ) to the Slavs. After all, this is the former Slavic Porussia occupied by the Germans for 1000 years.
    And then we have some problems from this state. Napoleon was right when, after the defeat of the Russian-Austrian-Prussian troops, he ran into the stubborn desire of Alexander I to preserve the state of Prussia. “I don’t know why you need this, but you’ll cry with them,” summed up the brilliant Emperor, but went for it, since he did not want to spoil relations with Alexander.
  39. Drunya
    Drunya 25 October 2014 22: 25
    +2
    Konstantin Semin. Agitprop dated October 25, 2014, 25
  40. Drunya
    Drunya 25 October 2014 22: 44
    0
    Hinge: one of the best unit commanders, a major at the age of 21, told why he switched to the DPR side and why the militia would win
  41. Alfizik
    Alfizik 25 October 2014 22: 48
    0
    Something was wrong with Merkel ... It was not in vain that they collected dirt at the NSA.
  42. Drunya
    Drunya 25 October 2014 22: 55
    +1
    The militia is preparing for the assault of Donetsk
    Message from the militia:
    Today, 22: 29
    "In Donetsk, by these minutes, everything had calmed down. The militia took up combat positions and is preparing for a possible assault from the junta. In the suburbs, there is activity of numerous enemy DRGs. Drones have been spotted over the airport. According to intelligence, the punitive forces in the occupied settlements near Donetsk received reinforcements in equipment. manpower and ammunition. "
  43. regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 25 October 2014 23: 11
    +2


    people look really funny and the last one and generally Socrates thought giant direct))
    1. FordRUS
      FordRUS 27 October 2014 17: 08
      0
      but what about Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, the same they said that they would die without Russia and what ?????? They are 10 times better than a rotten Russia!
  44. Yugra
    Yugra 25 October 2014 23: 19
    +2
    How dependent on the Americans is this Hitler in a skirt ...
    1. Leonidych
      Leonidych 25 October 2014 23: 41
      +1
      only the head needed the other way around
  45. An-mi
    An-mi 25 October 2014 23: 23
    +1
    The Angel of Death knows his business well!
    The Germans still learn something from this kitchen.
  46. Drunya
    Drunya 25 October 2014 23: 26
    0
    scap - negotiations - militia and "ato forces"
    1. shasherin_pavel
      shasherin_pavel 27 October 2014 19: 40
      0
      The junte does not listen to her and continues to shoot kindergartens and schools. Will she come to Donetsk after the elections to teach New Russia about democracy? Freeze the whole Donetsk and die under the "Grad" she will teach the people to judge the bastards. They pulled Ukrainian soldiers out of Russia !!! They were greeted at the border, pulled out of the buses and dragged across the border with a bed! First two hundred soldiers, then 400, then 600, and everything is in a prone position. Maybe she pulled all the soldiers herself ?! Actually, there is such a thing as the deportation of soldiers before the end of hostilities in a neighboring state. American pilots who bombed Japan and were forced to land on the territory of the USSR were subjected to such deportation. The Americans were our allies, but before the declaration of war on Japan, the Soviet Union deported American pilots.
  47. Drunya
    Drunya 25 October 2014 23: 31
    0
    Anatoly Shary
    In the Donbass. For the first, first and last time
    They asked my opinion, I expressed it.

  48. Leonidych
    Leonidych 25 October 2014 23: 37
    0
    she is trying to become a second thatcher
  49. Heavy
    Heavy 25 October 2014 23: 44
    +1
    German caricature
  50. Coltxnumx
    Coltxnumx 26 October 2014 00: 24
    0
    Yes, stop the unhappy woman, trying, as is customary for the Germans, to do everything well, spinning between the hammer (USA) and the anvil (truth), and by the way, while maneuvering, God grant her help, our little man, no matter how they put pressure on her -could be much worse-if there was kaka = not ka = ka bastard-minus.