Lockheed Martin is preparing a revolution in energy. Russia does not believe in it

The American Skunk Works laboratory in 2024 is preparing to present a production version of a fusion reactor, which theoretically could change the face of all modern energy in the world. It is reported that the size of a new fusion reactor with a truck and a power of 100 MW is useful both on our planet and in space. The American company Lockheed Martin revealed the details of its new project T4 to develop a powerful and compact fusion reactor CFR (Dubbed the compact fusion reactor) recently. It is reported that this breakthrough technology in its field is created in the Skunk Works laboratory, which specializes in secret military developments. Therefore, it is not surprising that nothing was known about the project for so long.


Only in 2013, the company lifted the veil of secrecy over its project T4, telling about its existence. Now, however, the public has become aware of some details concerning the new energy system. The company Lockheed Martin promises that the finished prototype of the new reactor will be made by them in 5 years, and the first production samples will start to work in a decade. It is reported that, unlike modern prototypes of fusion reactors, the CFR reactor will be 20 times more powerful and 10 times smaller.

Lockheed Martin has been conducting closed-door experiments on nuclear technology over the past 60 years, but has now decided to let the public know about them in order to attract public and private partners. It is worth noting that experts attribute this "fascination" of one of the largest suppliers of the Pentagon to alternative energy in that the US is engaged in reducing military spending.

Currently, Lockheed Martin is one of the world's largest companies, specializing in the production of various military and aerospace equipment. The company employs more than 113 thousands of people, and its sales in 2013 alone were estimated at 45,4 billion dollars. Starting in the middle of 2000, Lockheed Martin has been working on the development of the reusable Orion spacecraft, which should deliver people and cargo to the ISS, the Moon, and, possibly, to the Red Planet in the future.



Equipping a spacecraft with a compact thermonuclear installation is a rather tempting idea. At the same time, modern nuclear reactors are quite expensive and bulky in size. For example, the most famous project in this area - ITER research and development - with a projected power of 500 MW costs about 50 billion dollars. At the same time, it has a height of more than 30 meters and after the end of construction will weigh 23 000 tons. At the same time, the Lockheed Martin serial reactor can be transported using road transport.

Until now, most of the fusion reactor designs are based on the principles of tokamak, which was developed by USSR physicists in the 1950s. In reactors of this type, the plasma ring is held by a powerful magnetic field created by superconducting magnets. Another set of magnets is responsible for inducing the current inside the plasma itself and for maintaining the thermonuclear reaction. The problem with tokomaks is that they produce not much more energy than is spent on powering the magnets used, their profitability tends to zero.

In the Lockheed Martin Corporation’s proposed CFR reactor, the plasma is held by a special geometric shape throughout the reactor chamber. In CFR, superconducting magnets are also used, but they generate a magnetic field around the outer boundary of the chamber, so there is no need to accurately position the magnetic field lines relative to the plasma, and these magnets themselves are outside the boundaries of the active zone. This increases the amount of plasma (and therefore the energy output). And the stronger the plasma tends to get out, the stronger the magnetic field is trying to bring it back.

It is reported that the reactor should combine the best solutions that were created for different fusion reactor projects. For example, special magnetic mirrors are located at the ends of the cylindrical active zone of a reactor, which can reflect a substantial part of plasma particles. In addition, a recirculation system was created that is similar to that used in the Polywell pilot reactor. With the help of a magnetic field, this system captures electrons and creates zones into which positive ions rush. Here they collide among themselves and maintain a continuous process of thermonuclear reaction. All this significantly increases the efficiency of the reactor.

Lockheed Martin is preparing a revolution in energy. Russia does not believe in it

Skunk Works simplified reactor layout


Lockheed Martin plans to use tritium and deuterium as fuel, which are placed in the reactor core in the form of gas. During the course of the fusion reaction, helium-4 is formed and electrons are released, which are responsible for heating the walls of the reactor. Next comes the traditional scheme of steam pipes and heat exchangers.

At the moment, the project of the American Aerospace Corporation is at the stage of work on the creation of a prototype, and a full-fledged prototype should be ready in 5 years. According to Lockheed Martin aviation engineer Thomas McGuire, a working prototype will have to confirm the performance of the proposed design. In addition, he must ensure the ignition of the plasma and the maintenance of the process of thermonuclear reaction for 10 seconds. Even later, 5 years after the creation of a working prototype, that is, by 2024, American engineers expect to produce the first series of CFR fusion reactors that can be used in industry.

It is reported that the early series reactors will have small dimensions so that they can be placed in transportable containers 7x13 meters. With such sizes, which are quite modest for fusion reactors, they will be able to produce a record amount of energy: about 100 MW. Taking into account the parameters of the first series of CFR reactors, it is easy to see that the Pentagon is interested in work in this direction. The US military needs compact and very powerful sources of energy for the development and improvement of advanced laser and microwave weapons.

At the same time, in the civilian market, such thermonuclear reactors are able to effect a real revolution. A compact and safe thermonuclear reactor of similar capacity can provide energy for up to 80 thousands of homes. At the same time, it will be very easy to integrate it into modern electrical networks (as opposed to such energy sources as solar panels and wind turbines). In addition to all of the above, the CFR is almost an ideal power plant for promising spacecraft. With the help of new CFR-based engines, manned spacecraft will be able to fly much faster to Mars.



Russian scientists do not believe in the breakthrough of the company Lockheed Martin

In addition to Lockheed Martin, a team of scientists from an international project under the acronym ITER / International Thermonuclear Experimental Reactor is currently actively engaged in research in the field of thermonuclear fusion. The results of their activities are currently far from the announced successes that were made by the aerospace corporation. For this reason, the veracity of the popular Lockheed Martin information is being questioned, and has already caused a lot of controversy in academic circles. Russian scientists do not really believe the published materials.

For example, the head of the Russian ITER agency, Anatoly Krasilnikov, publicly stated that the scientific breakthrough that was voiced by Lockheed Martin experts is actually empty words that have nothing to do with real life. The fact that the United States is preparing to begin creating a prototype thermonuclear reactor with the stated dimensions seems to Mr. Krasilnikov ordinary PR. According to Anatoly Krasilnikov, science at the present stage of development is not able to design a safe and fully functioning fusion reactor of such small size.

As an argument, he cited the fact that today honored nuclear physicists from the USA, China, EU countries, Russia, Japan, India and South Korea are working on the international ITER project, but even the best minds of modern science gathered together hope to get the first plasma from ITER in the best case to 2023 year. In this case, even speech does not go about any compactness of the prototype reactor.

Naturally, in the future the opportunity to develop a small-sized installation will become obvious, but this will not happen in the next few years. Whereas in Lockheed Martin declare that they can show the real model of the reactor in a year. And of course, it’s hard to believe, given that the engineers of the company are working on a project of this level in isolation from other scientists. Anatoly Krasilnikov is confident that the promises of representatives of Lockheed Martin to show the prototype will remain just promises.



He notes that leading engineers have been working on the creation of the first fusion reactor for more than a decade, and this process implies an obligatory exchange of experience. At the same time promising developments and developments become available to other scientists. The breakthrough of specialists, the details of which was not known to anyone, seems to be very much exaggerated. Most likely, he pursues not scientific goals, but commercial ones. They want to attract attention, attract additional financial resources, and their statements are an advertising campaign.

Yevgeny Velikhov, president of the Kurchatov Institute, spoke about the American project even more sharply, commenting on the news with the words "Lockheed Martin Fantasies". He has no information about any real successes in the creation of a compact fusion reactor by experts of the American corporation, which would be supported by facts. According to Evgeny Velikhov, nobody in the world is informed about the American invention, except for the American company itself, the significant technical details of the project have not been disclosed, but the wave of discussion in the media has already risen.

Information sources:
http://zoom.cnews.ru/rnd/news/top/lockheed_martin_gotovit_perevorot_v_energetike
http://www.russianelectronics.ru/developer-r/rss-r/news/51820/doc/70545/
http://www.3dnews.ru/903790/?feed
http://lenta.ru/news/2014/10/16/skunkworksiterrf
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  1. Dazdranagon 24 October 2014 09: 35 New
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    The head of the Russian ITER agency, Anatoly Krasilnikov, publicly spoke out that the scientific breakthrough that was voiced by Lockheed Martin experts was, in reality, empty words
    - Yes, that is right! The main thing is that the best minds will not start ITER for several years, but here it’s on you - the size of a truck! They also shouted about shale gas in Ukraine ...
    1. Siberian German 24 October 2014 11: 08 New
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      it's simple - public relations, scored dough and good bye
      1. b0bi 24 October 2014 12: 48 New
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        Chimes. “Everything is just like that here except money” (Brother 2)
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      3. And Us Rat 27 October 2014 02: 42 New
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        Quote: Siberian German
        it's simple - public relations, scored dough and good bye


        Option number two - they did finish splitting this fucking plate from Roswell ... wassat


    2. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 15: 48 New
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      "...
      The American company Lockheed Martin revealed the details of its new T4 project to develop a powerful and compact fusion reactor CFR (Dubbed the compact fusion reactor) recently. It is reported that this breakthrough technology in its field is being created in the Skunk Works laboratory, which specializes in secret military developments.
      ... "
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      Yeah ... how did they hear, hear.
      8-)
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      Well, like, "The technique is new, military. Scientists can and DO NOT KNOW everything ..."
      8-))
    3. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 16: 04 New
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      "...
      At the moment, the project of the American Aerospace Corporation is at the stage of work on the creation of a prototype,
      ... "
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      - BU-HA-HA ...
      That is "in the metal" - they have no real REALITY!
      Moreover, the
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      A full-fledged prototype should be ready in 5 years.
      ... "
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      - But (attention!) - according to the aviation engineer of Lockheed Martin Thomas McGuire (!) - get your attention - the AVIATION (!) Engineer ...
      8-))
      (Truly - The trouble is, since the pie starts to stitch the boots ... 8-)
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      a working prototype will have to confirm the operability of the proposed design.
      ... "
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      That is - according to the AVIATION ENGINEER (not an academician, not a professor in the field of nuclear physics - but simply an "aviation engineer") - their NON-EXISTING PROTOTYPE - AFTER some FIVE YEARS - there will be something to someone, like MUST!
      (This is how Nasruddin promised the padishah to teach the donkey - the Koran to read ... Yes, by then - you will look at one of the two of them - yes, IT WILL DIE - either donkey or padish ...)
      8-)))
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      - that’s what the replication of the Fed experience in the field of “quantitative bias” leads to.
      8-)))))
    4. Evgenij.
      Evgenij. 24 October 2014 16: 57 New
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      Everything can be
    5. SHILO 24 October 2014 17: 43 New
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      Quote: Dazdranagon
      The main thing is that the best minds for several years will not be launched by ITER, but here on you - the size of a truck!


      They stuck the idea with Hollywood. laughing
    6. SergeyM
      SergeyM 24 October 2014 18: 41 New
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      Bluff of course, but interestingly, people who were far from this problem prepared bluffs. Take at least the declared capacity and dimensions of the installation.
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    8. vadim dok 24 October 2014 20: 52 New
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      Russian scientists also believed in shale gas! And America, with the help of this gas and OIL, has already surpassed Russia in terms of production!
      1. family tree 24 October 2014 22: 44 New
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        Quote: vadim dok
        And America with the help of this gas and OIL has already surpassed Russia in terms of production!

        Well, they cry out that in October, 200 tons of barrels more than Russia is mined, only whence the statistics and at the expense of cost are silent like a fish on ice what Yes, and to hell with them.
        1. Elbor
          Elbor 28 October 2014 12: 51 New
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          Do not underestimate them.
      2. ZSU 23-4
        ZSU 23-4 12 November 2014 15: 24 New
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        You do not overtake yourself
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  2. nemo1983 24 October 2014 09: 55 New
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    There was already a topic about 10 years ago about thermal power plants with an efficiency of up to 90% (instead of 40% of existing thermal power plants). The so-called hybrid power plants with high temperature fuel cells. There were similar screams - everything else was junk, and this is a technological breakthrough. They distributed mattresses for grants for prototyping quadrillion dollars. And zilch. It turned out that the time between failures of high-temperature fuel cells is only 2000 hours. That is, 5 times a year, it is necessary to change them in order for the station to work. The economy of projects has gone negative. But the screams were about a breakthrough and about the fact that America would be the king of energy.
    1. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 16: 07 New
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      "...
      But the screams were about a breakthrough and about the fact that America would be the king of energy.
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      - Well, what is there to do - if you SO want to be a king ...
      8-))
      Involuntarily, you start yelling for any reason ...
      I'M A KING !!!!
      8-)))
    2. Alex 25 October 2014 21: 46 New
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      Quote: nemo1983
      But the screams were about a breakthrough and about the fact that America would be the king of energy.
      "There would be crowns - there are plenty of willing people." True, there is still a line in this song - about a bell cap.
  3. Vladimirets 24 October 2014 10: 11 New
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    About this miracle reactor, in my opinion, is the fifth article on the site. request
    1. Alex 25 October 2014 21: 48 New
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      No, this is about another reactor. They have these thermonuclear reactors, like shoe polish in a factory. As well as warp engines, cancer drugs and much, much, much ...
  4. valersvet 24 October 2014 10: 17 New
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    not reminiscent of

    SDI (Strategic Defense Initiative)
    Missile defense (missile defense)

    all the same zilch ...
    look for those suckers ...
    adventurers
    1. Asan Ata
      Asan Ata 24 October 2014 14: 39 New
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      Add to this list:
      - Flights to the moon;
      - The Beatles (behind the guys there was a whole music corporation, passing off their work as the talent of the guys without music formation;
      - People still add))))))))
      1. Assistant 25 October 2014 00: 25 New
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        Add to this list:


        Yeah, add a few more results from Lockheed's Advanced Development Project division, also known as Skunk works, to this list:
        - Lockheed F-80 Shooting Star;
        - Lockheed U-2;
        - Lockheed SR-71;
        - Lockheed Have Blue / F-117 Nighthawk;
        - Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor;
        - Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.
  5. Vadim237 24 October 2014 10: 20 New
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    In 2024 we know whether they lie or not - most likely they lie.
  6. Bayonet 24 October 2014 10: 21 New
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    Welcome with similar “sensational” news on REN TV.
  7. Dima190579
    Dima190579 24 October 2014 10: 26 New
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    The shale revolution was, or is, underway. Now we are waiting for a revolution in nuclear energy.
    Oh, how many wonderful discoveries to us
    Prepare spirit enlightenment
    And the experience of the son of errors difficult,
    And genius, the paradoxes friend
    And the case, god is the inventor.
    Who does not know A.S. Pushkin
    Well, something like this.
    1. Nayhas 24 October 2014 11: 54 New
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      Quote: Dima190579
      Now we are waiting for a revolution in nuclear energy.

      By the way, she was very late, now nuclear power has become more of a scarecrow than a road to the future. But literally 50 years ago it was believed that the atomic age was coming ... in the end, the century had come, but it also stinks of gasoline ...
      1. Blondy 24 October 2014 12: 35 New
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        You, just like a real army general, confuse thermonuclear energy with nuclear. Thermonuclear will not soon become a scarecrow. And most likely never, because it does not give any large-scale radioactive contamination. Although, probably, other effects or defects are possible.
        1. SergeyM
          SergeyM 24 October 2014 18: 49 New
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          Let not a big one, but radiation contamination will be. In the nuclear reaction proposed by the amers, there will be neutron yield, which means that the induced radiation will also be.
        2. Nayhas 24 October 2014 21: 36 New
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          Quote: Blondy
          You, just like a real army general, confuse thermonuclear energy with nuclear.

          What is controlled thermonuclear fusion an evolution of? Internal combustion engines?
    2. Blondy 24 October 2014 12: 25 New
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      Well, I’ll quote something too.
      "In many knowledge, many sorrows," for example. I would be a naive student would rejoice - hooray, a breakthrough. And so ... - Another attempt to snatch investments from the budget. There is no need to wait here for 2024 either.
    3. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 16: 11 New
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      "...
      The shale revolution was, or is, underway.
      Now we are waiting for a revolution in nuclear energy.
      ... "
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      Oh, how many "discoveries" are wonderful
      Prepare 3.14ndostan spirit
      Their experience, the son of difficult mistakes,
      And their nonsense - friend paradoxes,
      Their malice is the inventor of lies.
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      Who does not know - NOT Pushkin
      Well, something like this.
      8-))
    4. Shiva83483 24 October 2014 18: 00 New
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      A nut of knowledge is very strong, we are not used to retreating ... and it will help to split it ....- a set of tongs, I WANT TO KNOW EVERYTHING !!!!!!!!!!!!! Yeah, the Yankees came up with, well, yes, yes wassat
  8. Nayhas 24 October 2014 10: 33 New
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    Lockheed Martin Corporation’s Skunk Works Lab is not a Sharashkin office; there are no cheaters. The statement, of course, is very loud and naturally sounds implausible ... For example, I doubt that it was made in order to get into the taxpayer’s pocket, Lockheed Martin Corporation is rich and it clearly has enough money for its own research. Then what is it? If this is true, then we are on the verge of a revolution in the energy sector, who will need oil other than the chemical industry? Maybe here the "dog rummaged"?
    1. Vladimirets 24 October 2014 10: 48 New
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      Quote: Nayhas
      If this is true, then we are on the verge of a revolution in the energy sector, who will need oil other than the chemical industry?

      All the same cars, planes, ships. You can’t even put such a “small” reactor into a fighter.
      1. Nayhas 24 October 2014 11: 51 New
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        Quote: Vladimirets
        All the same cars, planes, ships. You can’t even put such a “small” reactor into a fighter.

        Aircraft yes, but on ships such an EC will be very popular. Well, electric cars have not been news for a long time, of course, they are not yet competitors to hybrids, but they used to be skeptical about hybrids, but now they are full on the roads ...
      2. max702 24 October 2014 12: 23 New
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        Well, firstly, with the advent of TNR, the demand for oil will fall by orders of magnitude, and secondly, the cost of producing high-quality steels and non-ferrous metals (electricity is the main waste there) will drop, and as a result, all kinds of hi-tech in which these materials are used (titanium, copper and aluminum) will fall in price the same thing will happen with the chem. industrial production of high-quality batteries will become cheaper; charging electricity will be extremely cheap, since oil will become cheaper, and almost gratuitous energy will sharply drop the cost of producing high-quality plastic and their derivatives. there will be the first revolutionary discovery from the 40s of the 20th century .. It is surprising that with all the prospects of this technology, it can turn the world into its contributions there are pennies compared to what is spent on any rubbish .. But here the message from Lohomartin resembles a divorce with nothing to get money (there are enough of ours) and a subtle hint that nobody will need oil in 5-10 years, and therefore invest in it don’t need .. And now we look at who we have lately ahead of the planet with real oil and gas reserves (not invented but real), that's it. Well, the most important argument if this development was a reality, before the mass construction of TNR stations we would not know anything about them. These are too big opportunities ..
    2. Alexey RA 24 October 2014 13: 48 New
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      Quote: Nayhas
      For example, I doubt that it was made in order to get into the pocket of a taxpayer, Lockheed Martin Corporation is rich and it clearly has enough money for its own research.

      Ahem ... actually, Lockheed has been a household name for all kinds of corruption scandals since the 70s of the last century. The Lockheed Case, however.

      On the other hand, Skunk Works has been noted in history as the creator of excellent smoke screens to cover its core business. It was the "skunks" who developed the SR-71, F-117 and F-22. And to cover up these projects, Kelly Johnson's guys threw in such disinformation that experts around the world undoubtedly ate.
    3. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 16: 14 New
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      "...
      Lockheed Martin Corporation’s Skunk Works Lab is not a Sharashkin office; there are no cheaters.
      ... "
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      You are mistaken, dear ...
      Prohindei - they are everywhere and ALWAYS.
      One has only to weaken control a little ... - and here they are - MEET! ...
      8-)
  9. Bormental
    Bormental 24 October 2014 10: 44 New
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    Another prodigy, or, learn, Russian suckers, how to cut the budget.
  10. Svetovod 24 October 2014 11: 18 New
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    Russian scientists do not believe in the breakthrough of the company Lockheed Martin

    - they do it right. If it were true, they would have had a bunch of consequences, among which there would not have been this threat of a coup. Doctors Although it may be true, but with a trick or not an agreement. Like in a joke:
    -Here is our new ETERNAL engine!
    What does he work on?
    ETERNAL BATTERIES.


    One can also expect the independent American Crushers to find in the RUSSIAN OIL a deadly ancient virus (AAAAA! How can you buy it, Europeans? !!) ..
    1. Ascetic 24 October 2014 15: 27 New
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      Quote: Svetovod
      If it were true, they would have had a bunch of consequences, among which there would not have been this threat of a coup. Doctors Although it may be true, but with a trick or not an agreement. Like in a joke


      The truth is, what exists The global problem of energy shortages on the planet. The Americans have calculated that by 2030, with the development of the global economy, reserves and sources of energy will not be enough. This leads to the conclusion who will control the main sources of energy and their transit will control the world economy. From here everything
      these Arab springs. revolutions. epidemics and other joys on the planet. Here is the real situation ...
      And I still heard about this small-sized thermonuclear fusion year, so in 2006 the same Lockheed promised to introduce it in 2010.
      1. Wheel 24 October 2014 17: 59 New
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        Quote: Ascetic
        The truth is that there is a global problem of energy shortages on the planet.

        Is this really true?
        Something tells me that this is a somewhat biased opinion.
        Mankind has sharply reduced coal production, peat has almost gone out of use as an energy resource, almost no geothermal and tidal energy is used ...
        Quote: Ascetic
        This leads to the conclusion who will control the main sources of energy and their transit will control the world economy.

        Quote: Ascetic
        This leads to the conclusion who will control the main sources of energy and their transit will control the world economy.
        This applies to oil and gas, there is a special song.
        It’s just that these two positions are the easiest to extract and use, so a global business is built around them, which guarantees high incomes.
        Well, the business cow is sacred!
        And that's it.
    2. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 16: 22 New
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      "...
      -Here is our new ETERNAL engine!
      What does he work on?
      ETERNAL BATTERIES.
      ... "
      .
      There is only one REALLY WORKABLE perpetual motion project.
      This is an inclined plane under which a small impeller is located, the shaft of which is connected to a low-power generator.
      All this design is installed in the patent office.
      Envelopes with the next projects of “perpetual motion machines” Ever crawl along the inclined plane, fall onto the impeller and rotate it to generate an electric current, from which periodically (in response to each envelope with the next project that fell on the impeller), a small lamp lights up, illuminating the inscription "NONSENSE".
      .
      - more human LITERACY - it is WINNER ...
      8-))
  11. bmv04636 24 October 2014 11: 51 New
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    Yes, the professor works for them, so it will be in a year, but for now, this:
    The amount of fuel loaded into the BN-800 reactor reached a value that is sufficient to start a nuclear reaction.
    According to the station’s press service, automatic protection rods were removed from the core of the BN-800 reactor, which is part of the starting power unit No. 4. A nuclear reaction has begun, and with the help of control rods, a controlled increase in the neutron flux is carried out. According to the professional terminology of nuclear scientists, the reactor began to be brought into a “critical state” at a minimum power level (about one tenth of a percent of the nominal level).
    Sound signals (clicks) of the equipment of the control unit blocking the neutron flux in the reactor core are notified of the nuclear reaction in the BN-800. The click frequency gradually increases in accordance with the increase in the neutron flux in the core.
    “This is a long-awaited holiday for all of us. The physical launch confirmed that the atomic heart of the new power unit is operational. It’s already seen that everything happens in accordance with the calculated data, so we have confidence that the BN-800 will work reliably, like its predecessor, the BN-600, ”said Mikhail Bakanov, Director of the Beloyarsk NPP
    1. turanchox 24 October 2014 12: 02 New
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      this is the only future of nuclear energy, everything else is near-scientific tales
      breeders-breeders, with the competent creation of the fuel cycle, will provide an opportunity to provide civilization with energy for more than one century
      1. Mountain shooter 25 October 2014 17: 03 New
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        About 10 thousand years. All 238th uranium can become fuel, while plutonium is produced, which becomes fuel in conventional reactors using thermal neutrons. Therefore, fast neutron breeders need much less, and all existing nuclear power plants are able to provide fuel. And enriched plutonium reactors can be very compact and powerful. For submarines and ships. In the future, probably for spaceships.
        And fusion is not pure energy at all. Most of the energy, not counting neutrinos, is carried away by fast neutrons, which create induced radiation wherever it gets. And their flows - oh oh. So there is no need to wait for radiation safety from fusion. A "clean" cycle, helium - 3 - hydrogen is not yet available either in terms of parameters or fuel.
  12. Dragon-y 24 October 2014 11: 59 New
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    The portable size reactor has already been shown to us in the movie Iron Man. :) His main character "on the knee" assembled from spare parts from missiles. And here - whole institutes have not done anything yet. So, something is wrong here ... :)))
    1. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 16: 26 New
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      "...
      Its main character "on the knee" assembled from spare parts from missiles.
      ... "
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      so in martin lockheed it!
      And they have already invited as an "predictor of the success of their project" an AVIATION (!) Engineer ... Well, type aviation engineers - they are always right.
      8-))
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      those. must be assembled from spare parts - not from missiles, but from planes!
      That is the secret to success! You just need to pick the right AVIATION parts.
      8-)))
  13. elk
    elk 24 October 2014 12: 00 New
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    fiction is different. The cost of a kilowatt is determined by the ratio of the finances spent on the production of the installation, production of raw materials and the amount of energy released.
  14. av58 24 October 2014 12: 01 New
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    It is unlikely that Lockheed Martin would dare to give such a message without reason, the consequences are too serious. Therefore, it is better to assume the worst case scenario: it is true. In this case, a tremendous blow will be dealt to all, without exception, energy in the world. They will go away from the uselessness of hydroelectric power stations, TPPs of all kinds, and begin to dismantle modern nuclear power plants. Such a volume of natural gas and coal will become unnecessary. If our scientists, who declared the impossibility of a breakthrough in the creation of thermonuclear reactors, oversleep this discovery, then they will need to be put to the wall without exception, like enemies of the people.
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      this type of energetics is based on theoretical elementary particle physics, quantum mechanics, and other transcendental science, all the discoveries have already been made there, no Lockheartmart will definitely bring a breakthrough there
      1. Yves762 24 October 2014 13: 11 New
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        all the discoveries there have already been made, no lockhidmartin will definitely bring a breakthrough there

        H-mode was opened not so long ago. So there are ways to work.
  15. IAlex 24 October 2014 12: 02 New
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    Well, they will do it well, they will not do it even better ...
  16. Sergey-8848 24 October 2014 12: 10 New
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    Another fairy tale about the "cold" thermonuclear was relatively recent. While we figured out that it is impossible to get anything in a glass, what a fuss!
    1. Alex 25 October 2014 21: 59 New
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      Another fairy tale about the "cold" thermonuclear was relatively recent. While we figured out that it is impossible to get anything in a glass, what a fuss!
      Moreover, how many confirmations were. And for the most part, all from the allied countries. Even some of our "Euro-oriented" ones there. It seems that now the level of scientific conscience is still higher.
  17. Andof odessa
    Andof odessa 24 October 2014 12: 11 New
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    You do not believe that the most ingenious scientists of the chosen and most democratic country in the world can invent something that scientists of the whole world cannot create together! then you have no democracy and we are going to you! By the way do you have oil? otherwise our thermonuclear installation of model 1 works on coal, the next one is developed on oil, so this is not your oil, this is our thermonuclear.
    1. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 16: 30 New
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      "...
      so this is NOT YOUR OIL - this is OUR thermonuclear.
      ... "
      .
      1000 +!
      8-)))
  18. crambol 24 October 2014 13: 02 New
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    Quote: max702
    ... with the advent of TNR, the demand for oil will fall by orders of magnitude ...


    The arrival of heavenly life is doubtful. Oil corporations do not want to go broke, and therefore will do everything to drown the baby.


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      Oil corporations do not want to go broke, and therefore will do everything to drown the baby.

      Why should they go broke? Quite the contrary: petrochemistry will receive a big push and will not have to heat moonshine stills with fuel oil ...
  19. Yves762 24 October 2014 13: 05 New
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    I agree, Americans also know how and love to cut loot ...
    And yet, if they saw it?
    The fall in oil prices is already causing our economy to bite scrap in one place ...
    By the way, I also thought many people considered Mr. Bonn ... at the beginning ... Then the truth had to be urgently stolen ...
    1. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 16: 32 New
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      "...
      Then the truth had to urgently steal secrets ...
      ... "
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      - Well, and what do you see the problem - THIS TIME ?!
      8-))
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      Americans also know how and love to cut loot ...

      Neither of which "too" laughing
      The founders, not lovers, but professionals.
  20. tehnoluks 24 October 2014 13: 06 New
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    US law allows you to close unsuccessful projects without requiring compensation from developers. And all losses are covered by insurance payments. This scheme allows you to keep afloat the research and production complex in a market when there is no direct support from the state.
    1. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 16: 41 New
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      "...
      US law allows you to close unsuccessful projects without requiring compensation from developers. And all losses are covered by insurance payments.
      ... "
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      - AAAAaaaa ....
      What a won!
      So with THIS - and it was necessary to begin!
      8-))
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      So where did you find so much money in England to buy a TAM locomotive ?!
      Ahhh ... yes, you see, there was such a case with me in this very England:
      - We play, it means poker with these English.
      - And then one and say - and I have a FLASH ROYAL!
      - Well, I told him naturally and say - SHOW!
      - And he was offended ... Gentlemen, he says, in England it is customary to believe the WORD!
      .
      - And here, can you imagine ... Such a case! How my card went, how it went! ...
      - Well - SO - and I scored money for a "compact fusion" ...
      - for what, for what ?!
      - Ugh! (Ek sausages me after yesterday) - well, of course, the same "on the engine"!
      8-))
  21. Vasily 24 October 2014 13: 34 New
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    It's not about the statements.
    The point is grants. I often participate in university grants. This is normal practice. To get a grant, you need to "publicize" your project. And in a good way. And this does not mean that we are deceiving the state, rather the opposite. The state is playing a game with scientists.
    The peculiarity is that the state is ready to give scientists money. But it gives them not to everyone, but to the most active and purposeful. The trick is (THE AUTHOR OF THE ARTICLE HAS NOT COMPLETED IT COMPLETELY) THAT THE STATE DOES NOT IMPORT THE RESULT!
    It is important for him:
    1. To increase the intellectual level of citizens.
    2. Arouse interest in science among young people.
    3. Attract youth to research.
    And they will succeed, regardless of the timing of the creation of the reactor. Not them, so their children or grandchildren, who will take an example from their parents, will create a reactor and fly to Mars.
    And such a form of allocating money as a grant, and with a fair share of PR, is needed just so that the money will not be allocated to guys picking their nose, but to people with enthusiasm. When a person is passionate, he learns something very motivated. Knowledge is literally absorbed by the brain.
    This is the main goal.
    We need to learn from them. Americans are a fat plus for the desire to captivate their youth with high ideas. It is a pity that the author of the article did not grasp the essence ...
    1. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 24 October 2014 16: 53 New
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      "...
      The trick is (THE AUTHOR OF THE ARTICLE HAS NOT DETECTED IT COMPLETELY) THAT THE STATE IS IMPORTANT TO THE RESULT!
      It is important for him:
      1. To increase the intellectual level of citizens.
      2. Arouse interest in science among young people.
      3. Attract youth to research.
      ... "
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      Tell me, dear, and when a bank issues a LOAN to a borrower, it is also “RESULT NOT IMPORTANT”, too ?!
      8-))
      - Really?
      .
      The bank, he probably just wants:
      1) increase the financial level of citizens
      2) arouse interest in finance among young people
      3) attract youth to banking
      8-)))
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      And if you think in your opinion
      So we take ANY number of "Youth Techniques" (1960-1989)
      (there is such a ZABOROUS technical CRANBERRY - SEA in each issue)
      .
      - we go to the USA - and we create the Horns and Hoofs company there according to the MASS consumption of grants from the "bad" (or vice versa super-wise) US state, which, as it turns out ... IS NOT IMPORTANT RESULT ...
      .
      8-)))
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      Py-sys, I think that if you set out this your “p-revolu- tionary” position (in the distribution of grants) in the US Congress, then they may NOT UNDERSTAND you ...
      to put it mildly...
      8-)
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        THAT THE STATE IS NOT IMPORTANT TO THE RESULT!

        Directly to the unforgettable Leo Trotsky, the goal is nothing, the process is everything.
  22. chunga-changa 24 October 2014 13: 41 New
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    Our current "scientists" are mainly children of the dashing nineties. In general, these are administrative workers whose interests lie in the area drank dough by the method of fraud, and the heart belongs to American grants. What we see in the creation of endless mega projects and educational reforms. About the scholars, “our scientists”, by the way, also assured us that this was zilch and a scam, as a result, America is turning from an importer into an exporter of hydrocarbons. I am sure when "our scientists" will only finish the budget for the design of the development of the moon, the American "dreamers from Lockheed" will fly on the moon for a couple of years on business trips.
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    What nonsense.
  24. Vasily 24 October 2014 15: 29 New
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    Quote: chunga-changa
    Our current "scientists" are mainly children of the dashing nineties. In general, these are administrative workers whose interests lie in the area drank dough by the method of fraud, and the heart belongs to American grants. What we see in the creation of endless mega projects and educational reforms. About the scholars, “our scientists”, by the way, also assured us that this was zilch and a scam, as a result, America is turning from an importer into an exporter of hydrocarbons. I am sure when "our scientists" will only finish the budget for the design of the development of the moon, the American "dreamers from Lockheed" will fly on the moon for a couple of years on business trips.

    Yes. Unfortunately, for the time being, most of the money allocated to science is deposited in the administration. Universities, ministries and departments. The picture is terrible. Looking at all this, the idea arises of the senselessness of introducing a grant system in Russia.
    It is necessary to make sure that money is received by scientists, those who are engaged in science.
    Yes. Suppose that the implementation of the project announced in the grant is unlikely. But it is precisely those who directly implement it (and not "direct" from the ministry) who will go to the student (in the intervals between studies) and will attract students to science, bring them new knowledge. It is very important! The money should go to the grant performers.
  25. Grabberxnumx 24 October 2014 16: 15 New
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    Come on! Fleischmann and Pons also made a noise in 1989 over a glass with water and electrodes in it! But it turned out - zilch!
    http://elementy.ru/lib/431405
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      Evgenij. 24 October 2014 18: 00 New
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      Guys, anything can be. And the stick shoots once a year!
  26. kind 24 October 2014 19: 56 New
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    The article is designed for smart comments. Fuck you!
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    How is it possible to start mass production when a stable, self-sustaining reaction has not yet been obtained?
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    I AM! I AM! Will give east fantastic!
  29. MarKon 25 October 2014 05: 16 New
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    The logo of the office is such a cunning animal.
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      And very smelly! This reactor, the same prodigy, like laser weapons and electromagnetic. For which billions are allocated, because those who allocate do not understand that this is bullshit, and those who are allocated do not have a conscience and scientific honor.
      I watched this with my own eyes more than once. Communication with such "scientists" leaves a feeling of disgust.
  30. Bachevich
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    While the Americans will exercise with a thermonuclear reaction, a Russian engineer has discovered a way to convert the forces of GRAVITY into mechanical electrical energy more compact and more productive. Details sciteclibrary.ru/rua/catalog/pages/13109.html
    1. Bachevich
      Bachevich 27 October 2014 00: 19 New
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      Error spelling sciteclibrary.ru/eng/catalog/pages/13109.html
  31. Alex 25 October 2014 22: 07 New
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    It is planned to use tritium and deuterium, which are placed in the reactor core in the form of gas, as fuel in the Lockheed Martin reactor. During the fusion reaction, the formation of helium-4 and the release of of electronswhich are responsible for heating the walls of the reactor.
    Since when ??? There were always neutrons in this reaction. Or is there a physics in Lockheed? With your laws? The trouble ...
  32. Svetlana 26 October 2014 06: 53 New
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    Lockheed Martin’s reactor employs the technology of generating a toroidal-poloidal magnetic field in a plasma using thermo-emf from neutral beams directed along generatrices of a single-cavity hyperboloid.
  33. Svetlana 26 October 2014 07: 23 New
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    In a Lockheed Martin reactor, neutral deuterium beams accelerated by injectors to an energy of 80 Kev heat the plasma along its path and, using the thermo-emf effect, generate a toroidal poloidal magnetic field in the plasma, similar to the magnetic field in a magnetized plasma spheromac (also having nonzero helicity). A similar effect of thermoelectric power under the action of plasma heating from laser beams, which leads to the generation of superstrong magnetic fields by thermoelectric currents, occurs in the plasma of a thermonuclear target in a NIF pulsed laser thermonuclear reactor. Another method for generating toroidal poloidal magnetic fields in a plasma using high-frequency inductors is used in the recently published dynomak reactor from Washington University.
  34. Svetlana 26 October 2014 07: 40 New
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    maglinerfusion. To generate toroidal poloidal magnetic fields in a magnetized plasma, helicity is injected into the magnetic flux in the plasma with laser or microwave beams directed along the generators of a single-cavity hyperboloid: the thermoelectric power will induce the necessary currents. Scientists working on the Z-machine energy accelerator have also begun to make progress in the field of nuclei synthesis. The magnetized liner inertial fusion (MagLIF) technology also uses the generation of toroidal-poloidal magnetic fields using thermo-emfs from laser beams, but already in pulsed thermonuclear plasma. (See http://www.dailytechinfo.org/energy/6356-uchenye -rabotayuschie-na-ene
    rgeticheskom-uskoritele-z-machine-nachali-dobivatsya-uspehov-v-oblasti-yadernogo
    -sinteza.html)
  35. Svetlana 26 October 2014 09: 46 New
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    if instead of a Z-machine, a MagLIF cylindrical liner with an explosive magnetic generator is surrounded by a depleted uranium shell, then a pulsed energy output with a TNT equivalent of several tons of TNT can be obtained. Plasma thermocouples can also be created by inhomogeneous heating of a layered plasma, represented by layers from the plasma of chemical elements with different nuclear charges - for example, a plasma layer from deuterium and tritium surrounded by a plasma layer from lithium or beryllium.
  36. Svetlana 26 October 2014 09: 57 New
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    I give the full picture of the reactor from Lockheed Martin, as in this article, for some reason, the main component is removed - neutral beams (neutral beam injectors) directed along the generators of a single-cavity hyperboloid inside the plasma, intended to generate a toroidal-poloidal magnetic field in the thermonuclear plasma of the thermonuclear reactor magnetized by them.
  37. Svetlana 26 October 2014 10: 11 New
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    No, this is about another reactor. They have these thermonuclear reactors, like shoe polish in a factory. As well as warp engines, cancer drugs and much, much, much ...

    That would be good if we also had, like them, these fusion reactors, like shoe polish on a factory production line ..
    1. Alex 26 October 2014 12: 12 New
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      Svetlana, it was an irony ...
  38. Svetlana 26 October 2014 10: 24 New
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    Quote: Assistant
    Yeah, add a few more results from Lockheed's Advanced Development Project division, also known as Skunk works, to this list:
    - Lockheed F-80 Shooting Star;
    - Lockheed U-2;
    - Lockheed SR-71;
    - Lockheed Have Blue / F-117 Nighthawk;
    - Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor;
    - Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II.

    the products listed above are quite real, though some need to be finalized ..
  39. Svetlana 26 October 2014 10: 34 New
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    All the same cars, planes, ships. You can’t even put such a “small” reactor into a fighter.

    You can’t put it into a fighter .. but you can try it in a heavy bomber or in an airship ..
  40. Bachevich
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    Lord! The century of all energy carriers and their converters is over - FACT. GRAVITATIONAL POWER AMPLIFIER (GUM) enters the scene ahead. For details, do not be lazy at sciteclibrary.ru/eng/catalog/pages/13109.html When using a pressure in the chamber of 100 Atm. We get a gain of installation power of 1000 times while maintaining the dimensions. All transport and energy will work due to the forces of gravity.
    1. Svetlana 29 October 2014 10: 41 New
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      This is a perpetual motion machine of the first kind. He will not work. To pump compressed air with a volume of V under a layer of water to a depth of h (where the pressure of the water column is P = ro * g * h, ro = 1kg / m1000 is the density of water, g = 3m / c9.8 is the acceleration of gravity), the energy of the air compressor needs to be spent A = P * V. This energy is greater than that received from the aforementioned GUM unit.
      1. Bachevich
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        Svetlana! Thanks for the answer. I ask you not to be too lazy to open the passport data of any compressor and you, as in the calculation of 5 MegoWattnik, will find a paradoxical effect that no one has noticed. Consuming 2,3 kWh, the compressor drives 10 m50 of cubic air to a depth of 50 m, which corresponds to the potential energy E = mgh = 9,8 * 10 * 5000 = 5 kJ, or if we convert it into electric one within an hour by our GUM, we will get about XNUMX MW.ch But if you create pressure in the main tank, the work on displacing the liquid from the working tanks will be done a lot, and we will get more energy !!!
  41. Prager 28 October 2014 17: 26 New
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    you don’t even know whether to believe this article or to count another duck ...
  42. serg33 29 October 2014 13: 46 New
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    There is some truth. Rather, it was a dump of information to influence energy prices. Our physicists have long announced similar projects, but have not received support because of the lobby of oil companies (this is my opinion). There were projects and abruptly that blew the brain of traditional physicists. I think we have something very promising in development, we must look at how much we want to drive to the moon. It is interconnected. If we don’t want it, then everything is a bluff.
    By the way, a battery-sized reactor is fantastic only at first sight. Theoretically, you can create something, you need nanotechnology and materials. Here we are definitely trying to create something. There is very little information, and it is understandable why.
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      But "we will live longer - we will see more."
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  43. Svetlana 29 October 2014 19: 40 New
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    Quote: Bachevich
    E = mgh = 50 * 9,8 * 10 = 5000 kJ

    at a depth of 10 m below the water column, the excess pressure of the water column is 1 atmosphere = 10 ^ 5n / m2, the absolute pressure under water at a depth of 10 m is 2 atmospheres. To pump compressed air under water to a depth of 10 m and get an air bubble of 50 m3 at this depth absolute pressure of 2 amospheres, it is necessary to spend energy A = P * V = 2 * 10 ^ 5 * 50 = 10 ^ 7 joules. if you have m = 50kg of air and h = 10m then mgh = 5000J, not kJ .. But actually, the weight of the air itself in the volume of the air underwater bubble can be neglected compared to the weight of the water in this volume, because water is ~ 1000 times denser than air at a pressure of 1 atmosphere. By the way, the density of air at a pressure of 2 atmospheres is about 2.4 kg / m3
  44. Bachevich
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    Svetlana! You go to sciteclibrary.ru/rus/catalog/pages/13109.html on the last page next to the unfinished 5 MW prototype. The calculation of the energy balance of the GUM Gravity Power Amplifier is given: Consume 2,3 kWh we get 5000 kWh And it is REAL!