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Chinese J-31 will be prepared for mass production over 5-years

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The Chinese Nanfang Zhibao posted on its website the comments of Colonel Xu Yonglin, an experienced test pilot who participated in the J-10 program, on the creation of the fifth-generation fighter J-31. It is expected that the prototype fighter will demonstrate its flight skills at the November Zhuhai air show. This is reported by the blog. bmpd.



“The J-31 is a lightweight version of the fifth generation fighter. In its design, the backlog formed during the work on the latest samples of fourth-generation Chinese fighter aircraft was used to the maximum, and the number of truly new technologies is small. ”, - said in an interview with the newspaper Yonglin, and added that this circumstance "gives hope that the aircraft will be ready for serial production within five years."

Senior Colonel noted that “engine building remains a bottleneck for the Chinese aviation industry, but in the case of the J-31 project, there is progress in this area. "

"Now these shortcomings (in engine building) are being repaired and very soon good ones can appear news. In the future, J-31, as well as other main types of Chinese combat aircraft, will be equipped with domestic engines, which will end the dependence on imports "- expressed hope Yonglin.

According to the officer, “airplanes built using stealth technology are the future for carrier-based aircraft of all countries. But the likelihood of a complete replacement of fourth-generation planes by fifth-generation planes is small. ” In his opinion, deck aircraft is waiting for a reasonable combination of 4-th and 5-th generation machines.

"The likelihood of J-31 on the decks of aircraft carriers is very high, but at the moment I have not seen any information about the adaptation of the aircraft to the technologies necessary to be based on the aircraft carrier, so I expect that the appearance of the aircraft carrier J-31 will occur after (basic version) will begin to enter the troops "- concluded Yonglin.
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  1. herruvim
    herruvim 23 October 2014 17: 50
    +11
    The main characteristics of fifth-generation fighters:
    1) a dramatic decrease in aircraft visibility in the radar and infrared ranges in combination with the transition of on-board sensors to passive methods of obtaining information, as well as to high stealth modes;
    2) multifunctionality, that is, high combat effectiveness in the defeat of air, ground, surface and underwater targets;
    3) the presence of a circular information system;
    4) flight at supersonic speeds without using afterburner;
    5) over-maneuverability
    6) the ability to carry out all-angle firing of targets in close air combat, as well as to conduct multichannel missile firing while conducting combat at long range; 7) automation of control of on-board information systems and jamming systems; 8) increased combat autonomy due to the installation of a tactical situation indicator in the cockpit of a single-seat aircraft with the possibility of mixing information (that is, simultaneously outputting and superimposing “pictures” from different sensors on a single scale), as well as using telecode information exchange systems with external sources;
    9) aerodynamics and airborne systems should provide the ability to change the angular orientation and trajectory of the aircraft without any noticeable delays, without requiring strict coordination and coordination of the movements of the governing bodies; 10) the aircraft must “forgive” gross pilot errors in a wide range of flight conditions;
    11) the aircraft should be equipped with an automated control system at the level of solving tactical problems, having an expert mode "to help the pilot."
    1. enot73
      enot73 23 October 2014 18: 16
      +3
      Chinese J-31 in the air Test flight 11.4.2014
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 23 October 2014 20: 05
        +5
        Italian J-31 in the air Test flight 11.4.2014

        Something the Chinese went overboard with coal, smokes a lot!
        Here you can compare with the T-50
        1. Berxen
          Berxen 23 October 2014 21: 09
          +4
          Quote: APASUS
          Something the Chinese went overboard with coal, smokes a lot!



          So RD-33 is the same. Mikoyans always smoke.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 23 October 2014 18: 31
      0
      The Chinese, as always, decided to go their own way with Chinese characteristics.
    3. Samarin
      Samarin 23 October 2014 18: 44
      -9
      WHY do you bring YOUR harakieristiki fighters like the 5 generation? What is the point? - propaganda ... rotten ... rotten as thoughts of deputies of the Russian Federation ...
      1. Andrey Skokovsky
        Andrey Skokovsky 23 October 2014 19: 30
        +4
        Quote: Samarin
        WHY do you bring YOUR harakieristiki fighters like the 5 generation? What is the point? - propaganda ... rotten ... rotten as thoughts of deputies of the Russian Federation ...

        Dear, the word propaganda has absolutely no negative meaning and can actually have two options:
        our propaganda and enemy propaganda, all .....
        and yes, our propaganda must be mandatory and always.
        1. Samarin
          Samarin 23 October 2014 20: 11
          -4
          Sophistry, dear: what kind of propaganda is "ours" and what kind of "enemy".
          How do you distinguish?
  2. nvn_co
    nvn_co 23 October 2014 17: 50
    +6
    Look, little by little, but they’re doing their 5-ka, even though she’s 4 with many pluses. Well, the Chinese people are stubborn, but they have always been unlucky with iron, and even more so with engines. something it seems to me that by 19, 20 they will not bring to cruising supersonic in a stable flight mode.
  3. patriot_serg
    patriot_serg 23 October 2014 17: 52
    +10
    Off topic, sorry
    News from the militia of New Russia
    23.10.14 16:37 Moscow time. Message from I.I Strelkov

    The promotion of ukrov from all directions to Donetsk to the initial positions for the offensive began.

    - C Debalcevo too?

    - Brain says, yes, and there began to stir.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 23 October 2014 17: 57
      +12
      And here they brought me a battery of shells.
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 October 2014 17: 53
    +5
    Something is wrong with this plane. Yes, and with the engines they clearly give out wishful thinking.
    Even with the engines of the previous generation for the 27th did not figure it out, but they are already swinging at the 5th generation.
    I do not believe! And the plane looks like some kind of hybrid of "Raptor", PAK FA and F 35 in one bottle. I do not believe in the emergence from "nothing" of the school of aircraft designers in the Middle Kingdom.
    1. Denis fj
      Denis fj 23 October 2014 23: 37
      -1
      You are right that in front of us is the most massive generation 5-

      And there is no AL-31, 2xAL-31 - the thrust of the "big" J-20. The phrase "in the future, the J-31 ... will be equipped with domestic engines" confirms the assumption that now it is equipped with RD-93 supplied from the Russian Federation for the Sino-Pakistani JF-17. That is, this is the essence of the MiG-29 - I want to be a raptor.
      A fist-sized gap ... features of the national aircraft industry? laughing
  5. screw cutter
    screw cutter 23 October 2014 17: 56
    +6
    The senior colonel said that “engine building remains a bottleneck for the Chinese aviation industry, but there is progress in the area of ​​the J-31 project”.

    “Now these shortcomings (in engine building) are being filled up and good news may appear very soon. In the future, the J-31, like other main types of Chinese combat aircraft, will be equipped with domestic engines, which will help to end import dependence, ”Yunlin expressed hope.
    -----------
    Yeah, right now we’ll combine Sukhoi’s technology and engines will appear. Well, they can’t do anything themselves.
    Correctly, one of the wise men said, "Russia is the brain (KB)," "China-factory", and the brain hates to do routine from this and the auto industry is like that, but the Russian land gives birth to all Kulibins, and there is enough to share. There is no equal to the Russian person for understanding.
    Let me remind you, Russian is not a nationality, it is a state of mind.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 23 October 2014 18: 12
      +11
      Quote: screw cutter
      Yeah, right now we’ll combine Sukhoi’s technology and engines will appear.

      KB Sukhoi is not engaged in engines. As long as you glance down, you will proudly broadcast about the exclusivity of the Russian Kulibins, the Chinese can go far ahead. It is necessary to deal with the matter, and not empty chatter, so that later the turnip does not have to be extinct!
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 24 October 2014 00: 12
        +1
        Quote: Bayonet
        While you glance down, you will proudly broadcast about the exclusivity of the Russian Kulibins

        They will solve another technical problem. For example, sensors of the Himalayas electronic warfare complex will be implanted into the skin.
        "The unique electronic warfare system not only increases the noise immunity and combat survivability of the aircraft, but also greatly neutralizes technologies to reduce the visibility of enemy aircraft(?). Thanks to her, she also managed to reduce weight T-50(?) .http: //warfiles.ru
        So I’m thinking: either the laws of physics ceased to apply, or the journalists didn’t study at school!
        Seryoga, (vaf) enlighten, please! And then the "Himalayas" will highlight all the "Raptors" and turn on the antigrav to the full !!!
        1. just exp
          just exp 24 October 2014 09: 04
          0
          there it seemed like they were talking about the fact that the PAK FA, in addition to the main radar, has 5 more AFARs of the situational situation, they seem to have a different range and can see the stealth, but the trouble is that their range is small, and at short distances the stealth is visible there.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 23 October 2014 18: 21
      +1
      Then it will be necessary to buy a couple of Jets from them and study the engines.
      Suddenly, like in a fairy tale ... wassat
      They study everything, buying or copying, why don't we at least look at it?
    3. aleksandrs95
      aleksandrs95 23 October 2014 19: 49
      +1
      no need to scold the auto industry, a lot depends on the price, equipment, factories, mass numbers and the car itself. Operating prices, well, it’s not affordable to drive everything on the A6. Buck up the money how many Germans will drive in the same cars. But do we need it?
  6. saag
    saag 23 October 2014 17: 57
    +3
    "... The senior colonel noted"

    Is that the title they have?
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 23 October 2014 18: 16
      +3
      Quote: saag
      Is that the title they have?

      There is such a rank in the army of China
      1. evilrussian
        evilrussian 23 October 2014 18: 21
        +2
        And they don’t have a senior captain, by chance?
        1. jjj
          jjj 23 October 2014 18: 32
          +1
          Curiously, their stars on uniform are located like those of our civil servants of the Ministry of Defense
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 23 October 2014 20: 54
          0
          Quote: evilrussian
          And they don’t have a senior captain, by chance?

          Unfortunately not smile
      2. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 23 October 2014 21: 21
        0
        Well, like a brigadier general ... the Germans had after Colonel-Oberst the same
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa 24 October 2014 00: 27
          +2
          Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
          the Germans had after Colonel Oberst the same

          No, Igor, Oberst, as he was a "colonel", remained so, although, like any normal military man, of course he dreams of becoming a "brigadier general".
          While studying the Bundeswehr from Suvorov’s nails, I didn’t meet another. Sorry yes
  7. SAM 5
    SAM 5 23 October 2014 18: 00
    +2
    Come that thread blind. Another thing is that it will be.
  8. craniums
    craniums 23 October 2014 18: 04
    +1
    Outwardly, Pts is similar to the American F-22 - at least the rear view
    1. supertiger21
      supertiger21 23 October 2014 18: 07
      +2
      In fact, its glider is a primitive mixture of the F-22 and MiG-44, two fifth-generation fighters.
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 23 October 2014 18: 35
      +2
      Aerodynamics requires planes to be similar.
  9. Altona
    Altona 23 October 2014 18: 11
    +6
    Yesterday I watched the international tank biathlon, the Chinese type-96 tank is nothing like that, smart and well-aimed, and the Chinese tankers show good skills. But success in battle still largely depends on the skill of the crew, this is clearly seen in the use of technology, in Ukraine the most modern armored vehicles are burning - BTR-4, T-64 "Bulat" tanks. And at the tank biathlon competitions it was clear from the crews, who are more diligent, the technique obeys ... Also with aircraft, the pilot's skill, determination and quick reaction to a situation change decides the outcome of the battle with comparable technical characteristics ...
  10. Iline
    Iline 23 October 2014 18: 15
    +2
    Did the great aviation power China decide to start mass production of 5th generation aircraft from scratch? Well, well ... For this it is necessary to erect monuments during the lifetime of the heroes.
    1. Samarin
      Samarin 23 October 2014 18: 32
      +2
      This is you so kidding:
      Quote: Iline
      power China decided to start mass production of aircraft from scratch

      ??
      "from scratch" is a VERY relative concept and is not applicable to China.
      1. SAM 5
        SAM 5 23 October 2014 18: 56
        +2
        It all started with a copier and fakes.
    2. Samarin
      Samarin 23 October 2014 18: 53
      +1
      What kind of ideology will start from scratch in China? Why do you think THEM are full deebies? Is this your propaganda setup?
  11. Samarin
    Samarin 23 October 2014 18: 23
    -3
    “Now these shortcomings (in engine building) are being filled up and good news may appear very soon.

    Yes, it will be so: smelly critters (Russian figures Obobronexport) sold you a new technology - airplanes with promising engines.
    What you wanted, your task now (as usual) is to copy.
    AND ALL YOU WILL HAVE OH KAY!
  12. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 23 October 2014 18: 33
    -5
    Quote: herruvim
    4) flight at supersonic speeds without using afterburner;

    If I'm not mistaken, then the 5-generation aircraft do not fly at supersonic. To fly at supersonic sound, it is necessary to have a titanium lining, and not a composite of plastics or paint coatings. They can not withstand loads and overheating.
    1. sandrmur76
      sandrmur76 23 October 2014 18: 57
      +4
      Alexei good evening. Titan is needed where there are 3 mach. The Su-27 2,3maha-2500km.ch. and there is no titanium. Of course, but in different nodes (power units, chassis). Even in the Mig-31 steel in the temperature places of the sheathing is stainless steel. what
      1. Fafnir
        Fafnir 23 October 2014 19: 47
        +2
        On the Mig-31, stainless steel was used where titanium already lacked heat resistance.
    2. VAF
      VAF 23 October 2014 19: 46
      +3
      Quote: Алексей_К
      If I'm not mistaken


      A bit wrong drinks
      1. Samarin
        Samarin 23 October 2014 19: 58
        +1
        A bit like that ... for a whole generation ...
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 24 October 2014 00: 46
      +1
      Quote: Алексей_К
      To fly at supersonic sound, it is necessary to have a titanium lining, and not a composite of plastics or paint coatings. They can not withstand loads and overheating.

      "On the basis of carbon fibers and a carbon matrix, composite carbon-graphite materials are created - the most heat-resistant composite materials (carbon-carbon plastics) capable of withstanding ... temperatures up to 3000 ° C. Carbon-fiber plastics are used to make high-temperature units for rocketry and high-speed aircraft, brake pads and discs for high-speed aircraft, and reusable spacecraft, electrothermal equipment. " http://www.krugosvet.ru/enc/nauka_i_tehnika/himiya
      Quote: Алексей_К
      5-generation aircraft do not fly at supersonic
      No comments!
  13. Samarin
    Samarin 23 October 2014 18: 37
    -3
    Quote: supertiger21
    its glider is a primitive mixture of F-22 and MiG-44, two 5th generation fighters

    Oh damn, we already have MiG-44 and it is the 5th generation - well, photo - to the studio!
    1. Fafnir
      Fafnir 23 October 2014 19: 04
      +3
      Man meant the experimental MiG 1.44.
      1. Samarin
        Samarin 23 October 2014 19: 54
        +2
        No, the "man" clearly said: "MiG-44 5th generation"
        and the word is not a sparrow ...
        1. Dreamwriter
          Dreamwriter 23 October 2014 19: 56
          0
          MiG 1.44 - the fifth generation fighter prototype. They started to do it back in the USSR, in the 90s, the stump is clear, the project was ruined.
        2. Dreamwriter
          Dreamwriter 23 October 2014 19: 59
          +2
          And yes, they asked for pictures - please:

          1. Samarin
            Samarin 23 October 2014 20: 08
            -2
            Photos - buzzing. But to the current level of technological development is no longer relevant (unfortunately). So WHERE? here fifth generation? =
          2. KAM
            KAM 23 October 2014 21: 56
            -3
            Pancake! I have the same in the garage, stayed from my grandfather!
        3. Fafnir
          Fafnir 23 October 2014 20: 06
          +2
          What's the point of finding fault with words? The MiG 1.44 was one of the variants of the 5th generation fighter; for a number of objective and subjective reasons, it did not go into the series. Developments on it were driven to the Chinese. In addition to missing "1." any questions?
          1. Samarin
            Samarin 23 October 2014 20: 19
            -6
            And filter the bazaar, but the point is that MiG 1.44 and MiG-44 are different words ... a little ... and many people know about 1.44, but MiG-44, as
            one of the options for a 5th generation fighter, for a number of objective and subjective reasons
            nobody, and the notorious words "fifth generation" appeared much later than the MiG 1.44 ...
            1. Fafnir
              Fafnir 23 October 2014 20: 51
              0
              First of all, what kind of Gopnikovsky dialect? : squeak:.
              Secondly - the author of the name "MiG-44" is not me.
              Thirdly, if you are such a literalist, then what does the word "unas" mean in your phrase: "Oh, damn it, we have there is already a MiG-44 and it is the 5th generation - well, a photo - in the studio! "? I'm sure most people don't know what it is! And the words" with us "and" unas "are a little different.

              PS I wonder how do you react to such zhurnalyug pearls as the "Su-25 fighter" and the name-calling of the PAK FA Su-50?
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  14. Mol
    Mol 23 October 2014 18: 38
    +1
    “The probability of the appearance of the J-31 on the decks of aircraft carriers is very high, but at the moment I have not seen any information about the adaptation of the aircraft to the technologies needed to be based on an aircraft carrier, so I expect that the appearance of the aircraft carrier J-31 will happen after (basic version) will begin to enter the troops ... "
    By the way, will someone tell me, is there a deck version of F22 (or was being developed)? Well, and about the aircraft carrier PAK FA, who did not stutter?
    1. zennon
      zennon 23 October 2014 19: 41
      +3
      Quote: mol
      By the way, will someone tell me, is there a deck version of F22 (or was being developed)? Well, and about the aircraft carrier PAK FA, who did not stutter?

      There is neither one nor the other. And on the J-31 are incidentally turbofan RD-93.
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    3. Dreamwriter
      Dreamwriter 23 October 2014 20: 03
      +3
      No. On deck, the NATO team is going to put the F-35
  15. Samarin
    Samarin 23 October 2014 18: 47
    +4
    Quote: Алексей_К
    Quote: herruvim
    4) flight at supersonic speeds without using afterburner;

    If I'm not mistaken, then the 5-generation aircraft do not fly at supersonic. To fly at supersonic sound, it is necessary to have a titanium lining, and not a composite of plastics or paint coatings. They can not withstand loads and overheating.

    If I am not mistaken, the 5th generation should to fly it is supersonic in cruising mode, otherwise it’s not the 5th generation, 4th with up to x # I pluses.
  16. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 23 October 2014 19: 04
    +6
    China is confidently moving forward, why be surprised, because there "effective managers" are immediately smeared with green paint for waste and theft, and Vasiliev and Serdyukov will soon have a wedding, they will continue to steer (steal!) For our money.
    1. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 24 October 2014 00: 55
      +1
      Quote: polkovnik manuch
      Vasiliev with Serdyukov will play a wedding soon
      Do not follow the secular news?
      So, recently infa flashed that Taburetkin "returned to the family." Now he is definitely untouchable!
  17. aleksandrs95
    aleksandrs95 23 October 2014 19: 55
    +1
    the comrade’s equipment will be better for the campaign than the F35 for partners overseas, I think they will cope with avionics, the engines for them are now the most important thing.
  18. vostok1982
    vostok1982 23 October 2014 20: 14
    0
    Strongly do not praise the Chinese. The engine is worth a Russian RD-93.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 24 October 2014 02: 32
      0
      All this is fixable. They will finalize the engines and release them themselves, they will succeed, I have no doubt.
      1. ydjin
        ydjin 24 October 2014 04: 02
        0
        [
        Quote: Greenwood [/ i
        All this is fixable. They will finalize the engines and release them themselves, they will succeed, I have no doubt. [I]

        Well, well, just like the Kalashnikov’s assault rifle, they’ve finalized it, it just turned out bullshit! A jet engine will be more complicated than Kalash! wink