Stop the orgy!

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No, Ukraine itself will not calm down. Still a very long time. The economy is losing weight - creative rushing. Tanks not enough - more than enough soldiers. Common sense disappeared, but the cartridges remained.

1. Elections should be a bit ripped off. A week before the elections, Ukrainian politicians have already begun to announce in advance that Russia is going to break Peremog. I think this is said not just like that, but with subtle intent. In the polling stations where the results of the voting will not satisfy the organizers, the Russian invasion will be announced and these results will be annulled. Simple and effective.

2. Elections will be elimination method. Voting will be in the ballot box. Only not in polling. In the ordinary. And throwing ballots into the ballot boxes will not be candidates, but candidates themselves. So safer. And turnout is not necessary. And newsletters. As in fights without rules - who will remain on his feet at the time of closing ... no, not the polling stations, but the ballot boxes - he won. Early voting is already underway.

3. At the rally to come with a torch and a cocktail. Molotov. And this is not fascism. This is a dress code. Here in Russia, fascism. And in Ukraine, democracy. Human rights and all that. True, people are only those who wear a bandage of a strictly defined color. But this, as already mentioned, the dress code. High fashion and all things.

4. Soldiers want to demob. Commissar says early. Several hundred national guard servicemen held rallies in Kiev and Kharkov. Although what rallies? Rallies, as already mentioned, are held only with torches, at night and to the glory of Ukraine. And the soldiers simply gathered to ask when the demob would be. The commanders said it was early. The soldiers dispersed. Actually everything. And nothing happened.

5. Demobilization will still be. But it will affect only those who go to the service contract. So announced the president. And what is logical. How would demobilization, but no matter how. Tired of serving on call - sign a contract. Tired of the contract - tore it up and ... again at the call. This is called a choice. Democracy is the same. And to serve under the contract is good. Contract money promise. They are unlikely to pay, but they promise. And according to the contract, it is much easier for soldiers to be sent for slaughter - they are the contract soldiers, they themselves signed the contract, nobody forced them. Signed - everything, if you please. Saying to the boiler means to the boiler, saying to the meat grinder means to the meat grinder. A contract in a market economy is a sacred thing - die, but do it. Who does not like, they can serve as an urgent, the old-fashioned way. Democracy is the same. Free choice.

6. It goes to the next coup. This can be judged by the fact that the former Minister of Defense Geletey was appointed head of the State Guard of Ukraine, who became famous for the fabulous discharge of the Ukrainian army, first in the Southern boiler, and then near Ilovaisk. Why was he appointed afterwards as the head of the State Guard, I think not only everyone can guess, but many who can do it. The next boiler will make out. Right in the government quarter. Why? Simple and effective. All of them will pack, the unnecessary will be burned, and dictatorship will come. And there will be beauty in Ukrainian.

7. Training is already underway. The coup is meant. Nationalists gathered at the Rada to demand canonization of the OUN UPA. In the sense that the founding day was considered a public holiday and somehow else. Burn Rada has not yet become, but promised to return. Poroshenko promised that the day of the establishment of the OUN UPA will be the day of the defender of Ukraine instead of February 23. On that calmed down. For some time.

8. Prosecutor General promises to dismiss Kolomoisky. For triple citizenship. Envy, not otherwise. Kolomoisky put on the Prosecutor General with the device. What about him? He has his power in Dnipropetrovsk, his army, all his own. What does he care about the fact that in Kiev someone is jealous? The Prosecutor General should have been more cautious about joking with Beney, and Geletey became the head of the State Guard, therefore no one can vouch for the safety of high officials. Not a normal bookmaker will put a prosecutor general on such conditions. Only against. But who knows, maybe they just work for the public, while they themselves drink and eat in the evenings for the health of the sacrificial sheep.

9. The wall on the border with Russia is becoming more expensive. More expensive than built. But this is understandable. From the very beginning, the project was utopian, and it was not at all intended for defensive purposes. Salvage drank, people amuse, in the Russian garden to throw an extra stone, even if only a purely informational. Demonstrate what a big kyu they held for Russia and are determined to make it come true. Interestingly, at least the meter of this fence will have time to build before the third Maidan or some other revolution happens?

10. The new defense minister has become the former commander of the national guard Poltorak. Stupid Merciless. Hates everything Russian. The soldier considers cannon fodder. Body armor saves. He loves money. Ready to fulfill the most idiotic orders. In general, a rare bastard. The most it is to control the Ukrainian army. One can not find.

11. The Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine reported an increase in crime by 40%. This is starting from the Maidan. It would seem that not so much - less than one and a half times. But this is without Donbass, because there the police account for a long time does not work. And without the Crimea, there is already statistics leading the Russian police. And without 2 May in Odessa, because it was not a crime, but an act of patriotism. And without the demolition of monuments to Lenin, because they also go to the statistics of patriotic actions. And in general, without all the events for which the police are afraid to leave. That is, only what the classic criminals committed, without flags and bandages, was taken into account. And if with flags and armbands - this is no longer going to the police statistics. And throwing officials into trash containers — this is also now considered not as hooliganism, but as lustration. Therefore, try to guess for yourself how real crime has grown, if you count all that is done with the flags of Ukraine and the emblems of various nationalist groups on the sleeves. I even can not imagine.

12. Brave Ukrainian military commissars gathered 200 thousands of reservists. But do not worry, this is a virtual army. No new hordes to the Donbass will not move. The reservists were simply rewritten and warned that when Russian tanks appeared on the streets, they should appear at the military registration and enlistment office for a rifle and a grenade, from which they should rush under the tank. And after some simple instructions, they let me go home. Guess how many reservists who have received such instructions will remain in their former place of residence to wait for the glorious moment when they will be given the last cartridge and grenade? I think less percent. Many have already gone to relatives in other regions, to Russia, anywhere, but just to not participate in the final act of mass suicide under the command of the new Minister of Defense. And if someone remained on hold, when it will be possible to play a hero, then the clinical idiot is hardly a great fighting force and will change the course of the war. The main thing that fewer normal people were near at the moment when the last heroes will run with grenades to rush under their own tanks and under each other. Stuffing get another one.

13. Public organization Patients of Ukraine considered mournful statistics. According to an organization in Ukraine, more than 1500 people die per day from a lack of essential medicines. In a day! Not a week, not a month - a day! It is clear that at all times someone from seriously ill patients dies from a shortage of drugs, but now in Ukraine this indicator probably jumped 5-10 times. Well, or in 3 times at least. That is, more than 1000 people die per day just because they were not provided with medicines. And this is definitely not an accident. This is a targeted savings. And the savings and the purchase of medicines and pensions and disability benefits. And this is done on purpose, the authorities do not even particularly hide their desire to get rid of dependents. At the televised debates, a representative of the Right Sector openly told the whole country that old people should give the young people the opportunity to build a new country. What he meant by this - guess yourself. Thousand per day is the scale for real builders of the new Ukraine. And we are here about 50 burned in Odessa, upset. That they 50 people at a time, if they are a thousand a day without hesitation, "cut." That they 300 killed in Donetsk during the truce. That they 3000 killed civilians in the six months of the war or 10 000 dead soldiers in different boilers. Thousand a day! Three hundred thousand a year! Just go! And this is not built concentration camps!

Someone stop this orgy!

They themselves will not stop. Still very long. Common sense disappeared, but the cartridges remained.

Only who can stop them?

Russia and New Russia. No one else. But for the time being, Russia, on the contrary, is stopping New Russia itself in its liberation movement. And no one stops the brown plague that hit Ukraine.
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  1. +14
    23 October 2014 18: 53
    And what’s there, well, they don’t have to skip .... it’s a pity that people are dying ... There was no such state and there was nothing to create it ... Now let the US invest another 50 billion to stop all this. and then things will be done, and Russia disentangle. Amerikosy heaped up and Russian blood flows from both sides.
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      1. +43
        23 October 2014 19: 00
        Enough to slow down the Novorossiys, better than them no one with crazy Ukrainians can figure it out!
        1. jjj
          +18
          23 October 2014 19: 04
          They have already officially announced that fighting squads will be on duty even at the polling stations. Which party has more squads will win
          1. +4
            23 October 2014 20: 12
            Quote: jjj
            They have already officially announced that fighting squads will be on duty even at the polling stations. Which party has more squads will win

            Rusin wrote today that Ukraine needs to go all the way from the Middle Ages to become Europe. The start has been made, who has more of the squad is right. smile
    2. +16
      23 October 2014 19: 03
      Lavrov ... explained ... New Russia is also ready in principle .. Zima will also explain it to Svidomo .. Soon the November races will begin!
    3. +11
      23 October 2014 19: 04
      An article was written with humor, but frost on the skin from this! hi
      1. +2
        23 October 2014 19: 13
        Quote: dr.Bo
        An article was written with humor, but frost on the skin from this!

        The author, about humor and irony, is a genius. http://amfora.livejournal.com/
      2. +6
        23 October 2014 19: 18
        Quote: dr.Bo
        An article was written with humor, but frost on the skin from this


        Yes, there is no humor; there is another live opus in the style of PUTINSLLIL.
        Conclusion of the article
        But for now, Russia, on the contrary, is stopping Novorossia itself in its liberation movement. And the brown plague that hit Ukraine is not stopped by anyone.


        Russia does not stop Novorossia, but strives to eliminate "partisanship" in Novorossia ...

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        2. +3
          23 October 2014 21: 15
          All right, says Starikov. There is no sense without an idea. Back in May, calls were made to declare war on the Kiev fascist junta and the oligarchs. And the liberation of Donbass from punishers with the hope that other regions will rise is not quite right. So a certain Transnistrian scenario is repeated. But there were Russian peacekeepers and General Lebed. Will the new idea of ​​the NOD be announced after the election? We will see and wish it success.
    4. +4
      23 October 2014 19: 14
      It is easy to start a fire - you only need one match, putting out a fire is many times more difficult. So 50 "watermelons" are no longer enough. You will need an order of magnitude, or even two more money. We need to rebuild everything, and most importantly, shake the garbage out of the heads of a whole generation ...
    5. +13
      23 October 2014 19: 18
      Better than Turchinov can’t be said about ukrozombi until the people of Ukraine understand who is who, it is useless to do something. Novorosiya will stand, because it was she who had the role of Nazi cleaners.
    6. Denis fj
      +1
      23 October 2014 22: 47
      And the brown plague that hit Ukraine until it is stopped.
      And it is right! Insane people are isolated only when they pose a danger to others. While they bite their hands or beat their forehead against the wall - this is their grief. That Ukraine must go its own way to the end! She chose it herself. Stop them by force only if they climb in the Russian Federation. Russian man is by nature very kind and without a feeling of absolute justice for the destruction of nonhumans, it’s better not to go there. Everything has its time. We recall 1938-1941.
  2. +7
    23 October 2014 18: 54
    Who thinks how it all ends?
    My opinion: this wound will plague and nag for a long time.
    Donetsk and Lugansk will gain independence (maybe someday they will join Russia).
    Ukraine, a former brother, will become the most hating enemy.
    Result:
    We got the Crimea, somehow defended Lugansk and Donetsk.
    The United States achieved its goal by making two fraternal peoples enemies No. 1. But at first, only zapadentsy treated us, to put it mildly, unfriendly.
    So much for the influence of the media ... you can make a monster or a rabbit from any brain.
    1. +5
      23 October 2014 18: 57
      Well, Donetsk and Lugansk is only a small part of historical NEW RUSSIA, and Odessa, and Kharkov, etc. what to leave them, leave the junta?
      1. +1
        23 October 2014 22: 27
        "lav67 SU  Today, 18:57 ↑ New

        Well, Donetsk and Lugansk are only a small part of historical NOVOROSSIA, and Odessa, and Kharkov, etc. Why leave them, leave the junta? "

        First, you must decide where and with whom. You will not be forcibly sweet.
        Of course, it would be good if the whole of Novorossiya was "united, but so far the two regions are struggling to find a common language.
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    2. +4
      23 October 2014 18: 59
      Today I spoke with a woman who had just arrived from Lugansk. She told me what was going on there, even the hair on her head stirred with horror. He says that no one wants to in the Russian Federation after they were abandoned. She said a lot of things ...
      1. 0
        24 October 2014 04: 14
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Today I talked with a woman who had just arrived from Lugansk ...

        Igor, our "boss" came from vacation from the Lviv region, bought his fellow villager an armor, a box of dry rations for the "soldiers" of the ATO ... and how do I do this? And most importantly, VVP is at war with them, not we, not the militia, but reports from the front have already got it. Everyone is sitting and waiting. Few died? The OSCE and the UN do not need Ukraine nafig! May God grant all residents of Novorossiya to survive, but for Russia it's a shame! IMHO!
    3. +7
      23 October 2014 19: 27
      Who thinks how it all ends?
      Listen to yourself does not bother that you constantly think about Ukraine and even sometimes for Ukraine. For example, before the Second World War in Germany, did you think it was better? Yes, worse! And torchlight processions and provocations (arson of the Reichstag), and Russophobia - Ukraine is resting. And the goals were clear and intentions. What did the USSR hysteria? I was afraid of yes, I didn’t want war, but I was getting ready. He believed in leadership and in his own strength. Now it's ... it's all distracting. It’s all from the Internet, you really know less you sleep better. Provide everything with vision and just get ready.
      P.S. I understand, of course, Ukrainians are not just Germans for you, but such is the objective reality
    4. +1
      23 October 2014 19: 37
      Quote: Korvin1000
      at first, only zapadentsy treated us, to put it mildly, unfriendly.

      You hurried it up!
      Not only zapadentsy. You have to be closer to the people and a lot would be seen more clearly. And the Westerners themselves, for the most part, seem to want not Ukraine, Galicia. They donbass and FIG is not needed. But the Kuevskaya bastard-intelligentsia stirs up water worse than zapadentsev.
      Another thing is that there were many who were friendly and, in fact, Russians themselves, had relatives in Russia and mixed families, were now in the anus and were silent in a rag. Not ready to fight. They thought that in a bad dream they would not see the frenzied nationalists in the streets.
      Quote: Korvin1000
      media influence ... you can make a monster or a rabbit from any brain.

      No way, sir!
      Many people, for example, my friends and relatives, now fundamentally do not watch ukronosti, so as not to clog their brains and spoil the nervous system.
      Just in the case of Ukraine, the seed fell into the damped soil, and the weed sprouted good. Although propaganda, the thing, of course, is also important and should not be discounted. But it is also not necessary to exalt, it is only one of the components of the Ukrainian crisis.
      What was the weak propaganda in the USSR? And where is that USSR?
  3. -6
    23 October 2014 18: 55
    Yes, the policy of the leadership of the Russian Federation will cause more confusion and anger
    1. +11
      23 October 2014 19: 15
      Kibalchish - why are they needed in the Russian Federation? Of the 7 million people in Donetsk and Lugansk, only a few thousand took up arms, and the rest rushed to where they sit and wait for someone to win fool
      Did they want to go to Russia? Yeah, pensions are higher, salaries ... and all for free ... and at home, "Russia" to create what, the spirit is not enough?
      1. +1
        23 October 2014 19: 28
        They are the same Russian as we hell !!! They sincerely loved Russia (not for salaries) and wanted to return !!! And they promised to protect them.
        1. +6
          23 October 2014 20: 46
          Kibalchish - "like us" - in the militia, and you can only protect the one who is defending himself.
          Compare - when everything was just beginning - in Simferopol (a small town) 50 thousand people came out to the square, and in the 2 million Kharkiv no more than three thousand, is that how they "wanted to return"?
          And now, in your opinion, what should Ryazan, Siberian and Ural guys put their lives for? And they will sit back and wait who will win? Yes FIG them. Crimeans were for Russia and they were in Russia, and in the Southeast, as it turned out, only a few thousand people out of millions did not really accept the Junta, and the rest ... request And to help them? Yeah ...
          1. fienf
            +3
            23 October 2014 21: 27
            Remember, at the beginning, you didn’t want to either Ukraine or Russia. Yes and
            Putin then said "wait a minute, guys." It only started later, send
            troops to fight for our independence. Even now, the "refugees" are bringing their over-aged sons to Russia, who do not even want to work.
            Those who really needed protection found a job, somehow settled down. And if they don’t thank the Russians, then they don’t pour slops. Highly
            I want this horror to end in Ukraine and in the whole territory. After all, they began to destroy not only dissenting, but also former associates.
          2. fienf
            0
            23 October 2014 21: 27
            Remember, at the beginning, you didn’t want to either Ukraine or Russia. Yes and
            Putin then said "wait a minute, guys." It only started later, send
            troops to fight for our independence. Even now, the "refugees" are bringing their over-aged sons to Russia, who do not even want to work.
            Those who really needed protection found a job, somehow settled down. And if they don’t thank the Russians, then they don’t pour slops. Highly
            I want this horror to end in Ukraine and in the whole territory. After all, they began to destroy not only dissenting, but also former associates.
  4. +9
    23 October 2014 18: 58
    Well, what will we wait for when the people of this country reign in the seething Ukrainian cauldron, when they finally realize that it is impossible to live like that, and then changes for the better in Ukraine will be possible.
    1. +4
      23 October 2014 19: 53
      Namely, the porridge was brewed, now they will dissolve in full. It will be purgatory. No one will be able to free them from the fascist infection, except for themselves. They also stopped for this, to give time for the separation of who is who, then it will be easier for the novos.
    2. +1
      23 October 2014 20: 26
      Quote: Giant thought
      Well, what will we wait for when the people of this country reign in the seething Ukrainian cauldron, when they finally realize that it is impossible to live like that, and then changes for the better in Ukraine will be possible.

      you are absolutely right, Peter. let's wait until these great-Ukrainians take sticks and beat each other on the head, and when all the hallucinations are knocked out and clean up the sheds, by their direct deed (M.A. Bulgakov is also a giant of thought) then we can talk with them about something .
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  6. +2
    23 October 2014 19: 02
    "Only who can stop them? Russia and Novorossia. There is no one else."

    - I was the only one who thought that here the author's approach is similar to the approach of the rulers of Ukraine - "pay us for gas"? That is, like, in Ukraine there is no one but idiots left - stop their thread ..

    "I do not believe" (c)

    And so - beautifully painted, it seems to be true ..
  7. +13
    23 October 2014 19: 04
    ... only now they will be forgotten forever, if we take them aspen into the sternum so that they will never be again am
    1. +3
      23 October 2014 19: 37
      That's right, the Galicia division turned into nothing but not so beautiful - your picture looks like an Arlington graveyard in the United States, while the Bandera scum lies in unknown holes sprinkled with lime so as not to spread the infection.
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    3. +4
      23 October 2014 22: 47
      National Guard after meeting with the Army of New Russia near Ilovaisk.
      1. +2
        24 October 2014 02: 05
        Vanguyu is a project of the Lviv churchyard of heroes of the "heavenly army" for the defense of Galicia from the events of spring 2015!
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  8. +1
    23 October 2014 19: 07
    The key thought at the very beginning is "Ukraine itself will not calm down, for a long time" .... But there must be some kind of solution? Well, what is it really about going on them .... Here is a restless neighbor.
  9. +13
    23 October 2014 19: 07
    He started for food, and finished ... Russia, go, conquer these crazy people, and then feed them from a spoon until the end of time.
    No, let’s do it yourself, swim out of your Svidomo shit. Or drown in it.
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    2. +1
      23 October 2014 20: 22
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      and then feed them from the spoon until the end of the ages.

      And why, they themselves must do it, it’s strange that I see this template every time
  10. +10
    23 October 2014 19: 07
    yes, sometimes dill is a pity (well, like a dog, which is euthanized because it is mad). But who made them refuse to brain?
    but I know the answer, probably Putin request
  11. +4
    23 October 2014 19: 09
    Fashikov will be stopped only by bullet and fear, it’s worse with zombies — they are not soldiers, if not in the army, then quite civilians and even children. This is really lousy, they will shit and hate if they have enough spirit to shoot in the back .. .
  12. +9
    23 October 2014 19: 12
    Kibalchish
    Today I spoke with a woman who had just arrived from Lugansk. She told me what was going on there, even the hair on her head stirred with horror. He says that no one wants to in the Russian Federation after they were abandoned. She said a lot of things ...

    Of course, I apologize and sympathize with this woman from Lugansk and the millions of other residents of Donbass, but ... Explain who and how left them? who and when promised to take the Donbass to the Russian Federation? If they had been abandoned, then (with all the heroism and courage of the Donbass people) they would not have lasted a week.
    1. -1
      23 October 2014 19: 19
      Well, at least.



      1. 0
        23 October 2014 19: 25
        Or here too
        1. +2
          23 October 2014 19: 38
          Not to the cashier .. it's about the Crimea, not about the Donbass in any case
      2. +8
        23 October 2014 19: 33
        About 20-25 people are fighting. this is with volunteers from other countries ... the population is 000-7 million. where are the people ... !!!! ???? HUTS PROTECT. No.
        1. -9
          23 October 2014 19: 36
          Let me remind you that the Nazis at one time seized the territory with 80 million (!!!) of the Soviet population. How many of them were partisans?
        2. 0
          23 October 2014 20: 24
          Quote: NIKAVIZ
          population of 7-8 million. where are the people ... !!!! ????

          You need an army from a million, but where do you get such supplies from? This is the level of the army of World War II, when the whole USSR worked to win
      3. +5
        23 October 2014 19: 43
        "We reserve the right to use whatever means we have to protect these citizens."

        I translate:

        - no one promised to join the Russian Federation
        - "law" is used, oddly enough .. Humanitarian convoys (and they were not entirely humanitarian, believe me), the same "voentorg" ..

        And if someone decided that by doing so the Russian Federation was obliged to provide direct military assistance - he was mistaken, my sympathies ..
        1. -3
          23 October 2014 19: 47
          Watch the video above. There it was clearly about the armed forces.
          1. +2
            23 October 2014 19: 56
            This video is from March 2014. And the speech there is about Crimea, not about Donbass. I already wrote about this above.
  13. +4
    23 October 2014 19: 14
    It’s all foam. They devour each other - it’s amazing, we have to deal with the economy, and they play politics. But the scary thing is that in just a few days full-scale battles will start again, and it will be very difficult to stop ukrov without Russia. Still, they have an order of magnitude, or even two, more resources than the people's republics. Is Russia ready to resume large-scale assistance? I believe that I'm ready!
  14. +4
    23 October 2014 19: 20
    all this does not resolve itself. until they themselves throw off the power of the Nazis, no one will help them in this. spread the dirty trick yourself, clean it yourself
  15. +4
    23 October 2014 19: 20
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Today I spoke with a woman who had just arrived from Lugansk. She told me what was going on there, even the hair on her head stirred with horror. He says that no one wants to in the Russian Federation after they were abandoned. She said a lot of things ...

    And where do they want it ... And no one left them.
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    2. fienf
      0
      23 October 2014 21: 33
      Well, if “nobody wants” to Russia, why did she come herself?
      1. 0
        23 October 2014 21: 42
        The goods carry here.
  16. +4
    23 October 2014 19: 27
    Comment by KM.RUforum:

    This is necessary, but they felt, you see yourself as a united nation. For 300 years, the poor have been waiting for freedom and have waited - jumped in plenty, yelled to stupidity, bowed to the fascist horde, and WINTER THERE. So what’s the result -KHREN with KIZYAKOM. They ruined everything that is possible, they lost half the country. Someone thought you would be GREAT UKRA, creators of the Black Sea and civilization, will feed? They stuck in the EU, dodged, stuck in NATO - the second muzzle, to the gas pits - and there’s a bummer. President, sorry, with a lean face, is scouring the world, the rabbit is building the Great Dill wall to protect against barbarians. Don’t love her, okay, but listen to the wisdom that you’ll sink and burrow (not on Mundan naturally). And Krylov’s fable known about dragonfly and ant, remember. Stop puffing out your cheeks, it's time to plow.
    1. 0
      24 October 2014 10: 42
      Too late to plow. Winter is not today, tomorrow will come.
  17. +1
    23 October 2014 19: 34
    The more fights in the election, the better. Watching the battle of spiders in the bank is a pleasure. If only New Russia lived and won.
  18. +1
    23 October 2014 19: 43
    Residents escaped from the madhouse, and healthy people hide. And if a healthy man lives a month with a fool, he himself will turn into a fool. And here it’s not just cohabitation, but propaganda of terrible stupidity.
  19. +1
    23 October 2014 19: 46
    The prosecutor general promises to dismiss Kolomoisky. For triple citizenship. Envy, not otherwise. Kolomoisky put on the prosecutor general with the device. What about him? He has his own power in Dnepropetrovsk, his own army, all his own. What does he care if someone envies in Kiev?


    The suspicion is growing that Kaloma wants to disconnect from Ukraine and join New Russia.
    And what, another passport will appear in the collection.
    The constitution of New Russia should have an article allowing dual citizenship, but not triple or more.
  20. +2
    23 October 2014 19: 50
    It is not yet profitable for Russia to stop this bacchanalia. Porridge has brewed, and it must be cooked to the end. Of course, sadly, many healthy vitamins will die, but mold and fungus will also die, even if the porridge is not so useful, but not poisoned, this is the most important thing.
  21. 0
    23 October 2014 20: 04
    Cool! Especially pp. 9,10,12, XNUMX, XNUMX. I shouted to tears, well done!
  22. +7
    23 October 2014 20: 05
    They are already so tired of their dense impenetrability, pathological greed, incessant howling "we all owe" that it is just right to fence ourselves off from them. And let them jump there until they trample each other.
    Donbass is just a pity. But these Svidomo ukrov, no. These are scum ... and after all. what they have done and continue to do, they no longer deserve human sympathy.
  23. 0
    23 October 2014 20: 06
    Say what you like, but the current situation will have to be settled, I think, for a long time. The upcoming elections in the Outskirts and Novorossiya may become the beginning of a new bloodshed, at least the Banderlog are preparing to "try their luck" once again. Therefore, no concessions on gas supplies can be made. , let everyone pay the debts at once, and then supply gas on an advance payment. Hardness, hardness and again hardness! Cold is not an aunt, in the cold they will quickly sober up, they will ventilate their brains!
  24. +5
    23 October 2014 20: 08
    Uff. I’ll try to formulate for myself at least.

    There is a thesis: Russia abandoned the Donbass. Task: to refute. So :

    - it all started with the Maidan, right? Where was Donbass all this time? Yes, at home, at work .. "does not concern us."
    - it turned out that "concerns" (I mean the time when only words were thrown around in the squares. But - already in the Donbass). And where was Donbass? Yes, again - for the most part - at home, at work .. "it will somehow resolve itself."
    - did not dissolve. War began (I'm talking about the very beginning, when they hadn't fired yet, only tanks were running from Zhiguli). And someone thought what would happen next? Nope .. "My hut is on the edge"
    - there is already a full-scale war. Kind of like "for freedom", really .. About 25000 people are fighting, including "vacationers" .. And where, in fact, is Donbass ??

    At the same time, it is not necessary to say that "they promised us". No one military aid (a about it they say when they say - "promised") - did NOT promise. Never. They promised help - help is coming. Fuel, food (gumkonvoy), others .. "Voentorgs". Without help from the Russian Federation, Donbass would have been crushed, and more than once.

    And nobody left anyone. Just fight for its freedom is necessary on their own territory and with their own hands. Does this surprise anyone?

    Something like that..
    1. +6
      23 October 2014 20: 56
      Quote: Cat Man Null
      You just have to fight for your freedom on your territory and with your own hands.

      nizyayayayayaya, who will stop on the farm? let others fight, and I'll see whose take. but how they threatened, we will crawl out of the mines and pravosek with our bare hands !!!! something long come out.
    2. 0
      24 October 2014 04: 42
      The following can be argued:

      - it all started with the Maidan, right? Where was Donbass all this time? Yes, at home, at work .. "does not concern us."


      Who knew that the Maidan protest against the corruption of the authorities, which seemed to Ukrainians already familiar - and fair, would grow into fascist power?
      Did you know?

      "My hut is on the edge"
      - there is already a full-scale war. It seems like "for freedom", really .. About 25000 people are fighting, including "vacationers" .. And where, in fact, is Donbass?


      And where was Russia when Yeltsin shot the parliament, etc.?
      Well, if the majority did not understand the essence of what was happening and the need for struggle, now all Russians should be considered unworthy of help? Unworthy of fighting for their - that is, ours - freedom?

      In my opinion, this substitution of the thesis is obtained:
      - from the fact that people were deceived, - or that they were not raised by brave men -
      - that what they need and what is worthy of being heartless cattle in relation to them is deduced.

      At the same time, it is not necessary to say that "they promised us". Nobody has promised military aid (and this is what they say when they say “promised”). Never. They promised help - help is coming.


      How can one understand the above words of Putin, if not a promise (more precisely, an expressed intention - which is almost the same) to protect - by all necessary means. Without mentioning that the Ukrainian people should defend themselves. It simply stated the intention to protect, without additional conditions. And the east of Ukraine was mentioned - in the first of these two videos, so it's not just about Crimea.
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      2. +1
        24 October 2014 08: 59
        Quote: zen-do.ru
        How can one understand the above words of Putin, if not a promise (more precisely, an expressed intention - which is almost the same) to protect - by all necessary means. Without mentioning that the Ukrainian people should defend themselves. It simply stated the intention to protect, without additional conditions. And the east of Ukraine was mentioned - in the first of these two videos, so it's not just about Crimea.


        Ohhh ...

        - Putin's words above - which ones?
        - "to protect by all necessary means" does not mean military intervention, refute
        - "without mentioning that the Ukrainian people must defend themselves" - no words. How else could it be? "Help" assumes that the one who is being helped does something himself too, not?
        1. 0
          24 October 2014 10: 54
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          "protect by all necessary means" does not mean military intervention


          In fact, there is a difference between "all necessary" and "all possible". Now, if the second option sounded - then somehow it was still possible to become attached ...

          Quote: Cat Man Null
          "Help" assumes that the one who is being helped does something himself, too,


          Remember the first months, when the Donbas was in flames. Far from being isolated news were from the category "... a bus with miners on their way to work was fired upon by the Armed Forces of Ukraine." But at that time, the VSN were already at war with the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Would you say wrong?
        2. 0
          25 October 2014 19: 43
          Quote: Cat Man Null
          "to protect by all necessary means" does not mean military intervention, refute

          Protect with necessary means - means necessary to achieve a result. With or without intervention, it is not said.

          Quote: Cat Man Null
          "Help" assumes that the one who is being helped does something himself, too, no?


          Protection, not protection.
  25. +2
    23 October 2014 20: 13
    without words...
    1. 0
      24 October 2014 04: 53
      Psaki called the residents of Crimea and Donbass to the elections to the Rada
      The US State Department calls on the residents of Crimea and Donbass to participate in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine. This statement was made by the representative of the agency Jen Psaki, reports RIA Novosti.
      Psaki said Washington believes voting can demonstrate Ukraine’s commitment to the democratic process and condemns any interference with the election process.
      Also without words! wassat
  26. +3
    23 October 2014 20: 30
    Why stop the bacchanalia? While nothing is calm, they need to be fenced off (it seems they themselves will be fenced off) and let them dulk to the last dill.
  27. Everest2014
    +2
    23 October 2014 20: 42
    Now I rummaged in an ebay flea market I was looking for American sukhpai from dill, no, not at all. Shoot dill merchants or what?
    1. +1
      24 October 2014 10: 55
      The humanitarian aid ended, they sold everything.
  28. +3
    23 October 2014 21: 00
    In principle, nothing new. You can read Mikhail Afanasevich Bulgakov. This is about 100 years ago. Everything was just as wild. And the media has nothing to do with it.
    And in Soviet times, despite the propaganda and political agencies in the army, Ukrainians always began their song about the fact that "Russia oppresses, and Ukraine feeds everyone." Everything is logical.
    It is sad, but it is.
  29. 0
    23 October 2014 22: 16
    Here you can use the new term Ukrokiborgi.
  30. 0
    23 October 2014 23: 56
    Whom they choose, he will have them.
  31. 0
    24 October 2014 03: 55
    Common sense disappeared, but the cartridges remained.

    This is what characterizes u.cropia well. In the head, apart from Bandera slogans and hatred of Russia, there is a continuous vacuum. And "patrons" are really above the roof. It was said correctly in the comments. that the liberation of the southeast from the fascist junta lies on the shoulders of the inhabitants of this region. Russia has provided and continues to provide assistance and not only humanitarian assistance. It is really strange, with a population of Donbass of several million people, several tens of thousands are fighting for freedom (and this is with volunteers). The freebie virus also developed successfully in Donbass.
  32. 0
    24 October 2014 07: 04
    We don’t need to climb into the urine now. We gave urin to the geyrope, almost completely. Let the geyropa understand what it cost us to contain urine. These are not cookies and lures from the IMF, it is much more expensive. And nobody will make a privileged member of urine. Play, bust, wrap and throw. The main thing for them is to beat off their grandmothers now. After the election, privatization will begin, essentially a sale of liquid assets. I hope that it will not reach the export of black soil. And people ... 40 lyamas we can’t feed one FIG, so we will have enough refugees.
    1. 0
      24 October 2014 10: 57
      The main thing is that they should not allow the extraction of shale there, since after this process there will no longer be any black soil there - one poisoned, mutilated land.
  33. 0
    24 October 2014 07: 14
    Here I recall the story of my grandmother (the kingdom of heaven to her) long before all this began. They went on a tour. trip to Kiev in the 60s. So she said that when they spoke Russian, with our Primorsky accent, then all the muzzles turned up like and no one turned to them. In general, they despised the damned Muscovites. But this is in Kiev itself. But there are no problems in the country. So this shit has been boiled for a long time. It's just that lately it also boils and stinks.
  34. +1
    24 October 2014 07: 23
    however, the Ukrainian Great October Fascist Revolution is coming ...
  35. 0
    24 October 2014 09: 19
    Soon there will be heavy fighting again ... Stop stopping Novorosov !!! In coppers ukrov not to spare !!! Crush Bandera reptiles and drive to Kiev !!!
  36. 0
    24 October 2014 14: 31
    Someone stop this orgy!
    They themselves will not stop. Still very long. Common sense disappeared, but the cartridges remained.
    Only who can stop them?

    But is it necessary? They helped, convinced, proved and helped again ... but only for nothing, not feed the horse.
    Let this bacchanalia last exactly as long as it takes to ensure that the dill listens to the airwaves with hope and joyfully with a tear in his eye catch news like - "Russia may build a plant in Ukraine, possibly lift restrictions on gas supplies, possibly cancel the visa regime and others maybe, maybe ...
    They must fully appreciate the price of their betrayal and cowardice; no other is given.
  37. +1
    24 October 2014 16: 31
    Why?
    Someone has to stop! And that's all here. And the people of Ukraine? Or how to ride and burn tires, so they run to their homes and "damned Russians".
    You will not look at some refugees without envy. A healthy man, a golden rope around his neck, and he is still paid 800 rubles a day per person. Why should he fight against fascism? to yourself and disability to "break through"
    I am not against refugees and not against helping the Donbas and Lugansk. I am against the slogans: "Stop somebody!"
  38. 0
    25 October 2014 00: 53
    + article for humor
  39. 0
    25 October 2014 11: 48
    Here I remembered the song of V. Vysotsky "Letter to the editor of the program" Obvious-probable "". This is about ukrov ..

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