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For the Russian Armed Forces, a communications complex has been created, which is almost impossible to drown out.

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State tests of a promising communications complex, which is technically impossible to completely silence, are scheduled for 2015, reports TASS with reference to Valerian Kislenko, head of the marketing department of Voronezh Research Institute Vega.

For the Russian Armed Forces, a communications complex has been created, which is almost impossible to drown out.


“The complex of digital multipath active phased antenna arrays (AFAR) provides high-quality communication in a wide frequency range. The likely adversary is technically unable to completely silence her. ”- he said, adding that "constructive models of the complex were developed by the Voronezh Scientific Research Institute" Vega "(part of the" Constellation "concern) on an initiative basis."

“Now there are factory tests, next year we plan to go on state tests - if the customer (Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation) expresses readiness to acquire this development and begin trial operation of the complex,” said a company representative at the Interpolitex-2014 exhibition.

According to him, “an electronic system is used in the complex, which makes it possible to significantly increase the switching speed over the frequency range, and the phased antenna arrays used in the complex make it possible to close almost the entire range of frequencies that the likely adversary will not be able to drown out.”

The new complex can be used in all kinds of troops. “The balloon can even be a balloon, the weight and size characteristics allow it,” added the head of the department.
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  1. herruvim
    herruvim 22 October 2014 18: 22
    +30
    In war, communication is the main thing
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 22 October 2014 18: 25
      +14
      Quote: herruvim
      In war, communication is the main thing

      The main thing in a war is a soldier!
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      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 22 October 2014 18: 32
        +8
        which is technically impossible to completely drown out

        I don't like boastful articles ... And yet I'm very glad! Good and secure communication for the Army is all in the current high-tech realities of warfare .. (I was too hesitant about it))) Everything is checked in hostilities or those close to them .. God grant that our "Kulibins" do not let down drinks
        1. herruvim
          herruvim 22 October 2014 18: 36
          +18
          The main thing in a war is a soldier!


          If there’s no connection, you won’t call the turntable, you won’t tell the coordinates of the ambush, you won’t ask for mortar and artillery fire at the enemy’s locations
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 22 October 2014 19: 07
            +1
            Quote: herruvim
            If there’s no connection, you won’t call the turntable, you won’t tell the coordinates of the ambush, you won’t ask for mortar and artillery fire at the enemy’s locations

            If there is no soldier, then there will be nobody and nowhere to report.
            The main thing is not just communication, but excellent communication with the soldier.
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      4. Abbra
        Abbra 22 October 2014 18: 40
        +29
        The main thing in a war is a soldier with communications!
      5. Silumin
        Silumin 22 October 2014 19: 07
        +11
        Without communication, soldiers turn into blind kittens.
        1. nablydatel
          nablydatel 24 October 2014 17: 30
          0
          to novorosia for testing
      6. asar
        asar 22 October 2014 19: 49
        +3
        In modern warfare, communication plays a big role! When everything is broken, rely only on yourself - and this is very bad guys! And to "our" - a lot to go!)!
        Communication is bad!
      7. andrereu74
        andrereu74 22 October 2014 20: 28
        +2
        blind soldier is a dead soldier!
      8. aepocmam
        aepocmam 22 October 2014 20: 48
        0
        War is not the main thing. The main thing is maneuvers.
      9. Militarist
        Militarist 22 October 2014 21: 45
        0
        Quote: herruvim
        In war, communication is the main thing

        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        The main thing in a war is a soldier!

        Do not quarrel girls wink
        A soldier with a connection, and even a good one. The best thing.
        PS no offense.
        1. diz1975
          diz1975 23 October 2014 16: 24
          0
          The main victory in the war!
      10. Hammer
        Hammer 23 October 2014 04: 57
        +1
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        The main thing in a war is a soldier!


        Undoubtedly, high-quality and most importantly stable communication allows us to save the lives of these soldiers. is not it? wink
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 22 October 2014 18: 27
      +11
      Quote: herruvim
      In war, communication is the main thing

      Communication - Nerves of War!
      1. warrior1979
        warrior1979 22 October 2014 18: 42
        +11
        I will correct you - "Communication is the nerves of the army"! And in each school of communications there was such a poster with the following content: - "Without communications there is no, and there can be no control"!
        1. EDELVEISS
          EDELVEISS 22 October 2014 21: 52
          +2
          The connection has two states: 1. Just been !!! 2. Just about to be !!! laughing
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 22 October 2014 18: 28
      +7
      How wonderful it is when the enemy cannot drown your connection during the battle, many thanks to our smart heads for such a created means of communication
      1. Draz
        Draz 22 October 2014 18: 34
        +2
        It will not be able to jam, listen to and determine the source ... Nothing is said about it
        1. Rus2012
          Rus2012 22 October 2014 18: 39
          +7
          Quote: Draz
          to listen

          you enumerate to decipher the digit with encoding, and when you decrypt it - in a few years, it will be too late, and there is no reason ...
        2. Iline
          Iline 22 October 2014 18: 51
          +4
          Quote: Draz
          Cannot jam, listen and determine the source

          The use of headlights involves the transmission of information (radio waves) in a very narrow beam from object to object. So listening to and determining the source of radiation is very problematic. This is only if you yourself find yourself in the path of this ray.
        3. gunya
          gunya 22 October 2014 21: 48
          0
          But how to listen and determine if the frequency is constantly changing at random?
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          1. EDELVEISS
            EDELVEISS 22 October 2014 21: 54
            0
            If the signal exists, then you can listen to it. But unlikely to decrypt ...
    4. siberalt
      siberalt 22 October 2014 18: 41
      0
      But this is already interesting! Is it possible in more detail? So, purely for the perception of physical phenomena of radio waves. No one has yet denied the USSR's achievement in the use of jammers of the most diverse levels. Yes, and science does not stand still. If we got some groundwork in this breakthrough, then the longer it is in the future, the better. good
      1. saag
        saag 22 October 2014 18: 52
        +4
        Quote: siberalt
        No one has yet denied the achievement of the USSR in the use of "jammers"

        Anyway, America’s voice was heard
        1. Stanislas
          Stanislas 22 October 2014 22: 25
          0
          Quote: saag
          anyway America’s voice was heard
          In 1976 we bought a tape recorder "Daina", it seems, is Moldovan. It was unexpectedly found that when the "record" mode is turned on and there is no input signal from a microphone or other device, it starts to output to the speaker quietly and independently of the volume control, this very "voice of America" ​​in Russian. The radio was not even close. This miracle of Soviet radio engineering is still incomprehensible to me. It is a pity that it has not survived.
      2. Iline
        Iline 22 October 2014 19: 53
        +6
        Quote: siberalt
        But this is already interesting!

        Yes, in principle, there is nothing interesting. Does the concept of resolving power tell you anything? It is determined mainly by the angle of the beam. Previously, in radar, they tried to increase it by the size of the parabolic antenna and other tricks (this is in the elevation, in range there is another song, but for the issue under consideration it is not interesting). HEADLIGHTS and AFAR work on a different principle and with an even mirror the antennas allow you to get a much more narrow beam, and with the appropriate program, several beams. Well, for example, on one ray there is a location of the earth’s surface with the issuance of information on the panoramic radar indicator, and on the other ray, it exchanges information with a specific aircraft in combat order, etc. The limit of fantasy has no edges.
        This is so, in a simple, popular science.
      3. Bort radist
        Bort radist 22 October 2014 20: 04
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        But this is already interesting! But is it possible in more detail?

        The method is not new to the means of embodiment. According to a certain algorithm, the receiver and transmitter synchronously jump to certain frequencies. At the same time, a range is scanned to find the most suitable frequencies. It’s easy to explain, it’s difficult to execute archi.
    5. Siberian German
      Siberian German 22 October 2014 18: 51
      +4
      the connection is all - who previously recognized the one in the ladies
    6. 1111111
      1111111 22 October 2014 19: 51
      0
      ....) .. but sometimes I cried ...) .....
      1. scientist
        scientist 22 October 2014 21: 27
        0
        The text gives the feeling that in the article a simple mention of AFAR should make the products of the Constellation out of competition. But unfortunately, so far there is no Russian military connection in the world arms and military equipment market. Even Russia's closest CSTO allies prefer to acquire French and Israeli radio stations.
    7. Zhekson
      Zhekson 22 October 2014 22: 52
      +3
      soon nerds with glasses will bring down whole armies. And in the minds of the enemies will play the anthem of Russia
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    9. Denis fj
      Denis fj 22 October 2014 23: 08
      +2
      AFAR technology is still not available to many technically developed countries, and here it is not the most successful defense enterprise in Voronezh, and even on an initiative basis. Wonders!
      1. scientist
        scientist 23 October 2014 03: 59
        +2
        Quote: denis fj
        AFAR technology is still not available to many technically developed countries,

        I mean, you called the connection of a generator, a power divider, several phase shifters, an amplifier and an antenna "inaccessible technologies" belay Strange, but literally on my knee I assembled such a laboratory setup so that my cadets would study the theory of antennas and the propagation of radio waves.
  2. Barboskin
    Barboskin 22 October 2014 18: 25
    +5
    I’m all thinking, if we are just starting to swing, then what will happen in three, five years. It seems that the traditions of the Soviet military-industrial complex are being revived, and again surprise the world.
  3. Ober.K
    Ober.K 22 October 2014 18: 27
    +5
    Communication is management, and management is application efficiency, then suddenness, etc. result is victory !!!
    Like A.V. Suvorov !!!
  4. enot73
    enot73 22 October 2014 18: 27
    +3
    State tests of a promising communication complex, which is technically impossible to completely drown out, are planned for 2015,
    Another good news about Russian military electronics. But the Yankees are going to surpass us due to the advantage in this area.
  5. Olga Sinigrosova
    Olga Sinigrosova 22 October 2014 18: 30
    +4
    Can't we swing without a kick, or what? This is, on the one hand, and on the other, where it is difficult for foreigners, for Russian (Russian) people - the norm, a creative take-off.
  6. IAlex
    IAlex 22 October 2014 18: 30
    +8
    A useful thing, I saw this on cryptographic devices and radio stations in the early 2000s, is a hike with constant transitions at different frequencies according to the selected values, recurs at certain small time intervals ... It will really be difficult to drown it out, unless all frequencies are muffled, in including enemy communication frequencies wink
    1. Penzyac
      Penzyac 22 October 2014 18: 55
      +2
      Quote: IAlex
      A useful thing, I saw this on cryptographic devices and radio stations in the early 2000s, is a hike with constant transitions at different frequencies according to the selected values, recurs at certain small time intervals ... It will really be difficult to drown it out, unless all frequencies are muffled, in including enemy communication frequencies wink

      If you mean frequency hopping, then it has its drawbacks, for example, all used HRPCs should not be used on other communication channels. ShPS (noise-like signal) is another matter.
      1. IAlex
        IAlex 22 October 2014 20: 32
        0
        One does not interfere with the other, if there is an encryptor ...
  7. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 22 October 2014 18: 32
    +7
    "According to him," an electronic system is used in the complex, which allows to significantly increase the speed of switching over the frequency range, and the antenna phased arrays used in the complex make it possible to close almost the entire spectrum of frequencies, which a potential enemy will simply not be able to drown out. "

    They wrote some crap. What does the PAR and the frequency spectrum have to do with it? A PAR is just an antenna. The "generator" sets the frequency.
    1. 31rus
      31rus 22 October 2014 18: 45
      +2
      That's AFAR only an antenna, but it is like a honeycomb, that is. brought one or more hundreds of antennas working
    2. Penzyac
      Penzyac 22 October 2014 18: 58
      0
      Quote: The Cat
      "According to him," an electronic system is used in the complex, which allows to significantly increase the speed of switching over the frequency range, and the antenna phased arrays used in the complex make it possible to close almost the entire spectrum of frequencies, which a potential enemy will simply not be able to drown out. "

      They wrote some crap. What does the PAR and the frequency spectrum have to do with it? A PAR is just an antenna. The "generator" sets the frequency.

      Well, they wrote it mostly not for specialists, but for ordinary "inhabitants".
  8. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 22 October 2014 18: 53
    0
    Very good! The most necessary.
  9. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 22 October 2014 18: 53
    +1
    Quote: Abbra
    The main thing in a war is a soldier with communications!

    This is the right answer! wink
  10. US force
    US force 22 October 2014 18: 53
    -21
    FUFFLO ALL THIS. Glory to Khodorkovsky! wassat
    1. Stanislas
      Stanislas 22 October 2014 22: 46
      0
      for US Force If you wanted to write "Sala to Khodorkovsky!" then google first internet cafe Ukrainian cuisine.
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 October 2014 18: 54
    +1
    AFAR is an antenna with an adjustable radiation pattern and reception. Elements - emitters in it are active (microcircuit with antenna).
    It will be difficult to pinpoint such a connection, not just pressure.
  12. ICT
    ICT 22 October 2014 18: 55
    +1
    Quote: 31rus
    honeycomb antenna works


    it’s not a radar antenna for communication, one way or another you put a stick on it, then the receiver goes on and it’s jammed if it’s bad, there can only be digital communication from the new one that we each have in our pocket for a long time
    and so .............,
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 22 October 2014 21: 13
      0
      That's right, why jam the MW transmitter when you can easily deal with the receiver (all elements are super sensitive and very fragile). In my opinion, the transmitter and receiver should be far away from each other.
  13. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 22 October 2014 19: 00
    +1
    Quote: US Force
    FUFFLO ALL THIS. Glory to Khodorkovsky! wassat

    And what did he say? fool
  14. Leonidych
    Leonidych 22 October 2014 19: 01
    +1
    comrade the ensign does not allow cellophane to be removed, as at home from the TV remote control)
  15. _Voislav_
    _Voislav_ 22 October 2014 19: 02
    0
    Good news about our Nova-Howe makes us happy ... !! good
  16. Stinger
    Stinger 22 October 2014 19: 04
    +1
    Without an approved TTZ, on an initiative basis? Really the oligarch vagrant financed. And without this TTZ, who prepared the program and test procedures? Somehow it is necessary to give information more accurately. Who will take this thing.
  17. RED_ICE
    RED_ICE 22 October 2014 19: 05
    0
    Always all problems are due to communication.
  18. Hauptam
    Hauptam 22 October 2014 19: 08
    +3
    Not really that happened. After all, communication, frankly speaking, has always been the "Achilles heel" first of the Red Army, then the SA and today's army.
  19. zen-do.ru
    zen-do.ru 22 October 2014 19: 18
    +1
    Quote: US Force
    FUFFLO ALL THIS. Glory to Khodorkovsky! wassat

    And to Prokhorov! laughing
    Also a billionaire and also wanted for president.
    Only for some reason, Russia, although basketball clubs buy American.
    What is it for?
    request
  20. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 22 October 2014 19: 19
    0
    And electronic warfare is only designed for electronics. And we also have pigeon houses with dog lovers preserved fellow
  21. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 22 October 2014 19: 21
    0
    I won’t be clever, because the propagation of radio waves in space is beyond my understanding. smile But overly happy with another success. The military-industrial complex in speed will go even further and God willing will pull the entire industry to the modern level.
  22. 11111mail.ru
    11111mail.ru 22 October 2014 19: 26
    +3
    For communication without marriage! drinks
  23. Iskander 090
    Iskander 090 22 October 2014 19: 36
    0
    in war everything is important and skillful literate and courageous soldiers and reliable communications and the rear and everything else
  24. Historian
    Historian 22 October 2014 19: 42
    +2
    "Without communication there is no control, - without control there is no victory" Marshal M.V. Zakharov.
    March of heavenly communications - strong!
  25. 3vs
    3vs 22 October 2014 19: 44
    0
    In Voronezh, a lot of smart people work!
    Again, the only, probably, domestic DBMS Linter is being developed in the country.
  26. pvv113
    pvv113 22 October 2014 20: 00
    +3
    Does anyone know: can the complex be used as a broadcast? After all, it would be possible to conduct informational propaganda directed at the enemy without fear of jamming
  27. saag
    saag 22 October 2014 20: 09
    0
    Quote: pvv113
    Does anyone know: can the complex be used as a broadcast? After all, it would be possible to conduct informational propaganda directed at the enemy without fear of jamming


    So the end device should work at the transmitter frequency, but if we say 10 GHz or 700 or 25 GHz?
  28. Tyumen
    Tyumen 22 October 2014 20: 26
    +1
    Muzzle in soap
    Where are you from? We are out of communication.

    A pretext of Soviet times. Signalers loaded like camels walked.
    1. Leonardo
      Leonardo 22 October 2014 22: 08
      0
      A bunch of straw in the mouth.
      In jopa branch.
      Deep exploration is in progress.
      And the deeper the branch in Japan.
      The deeper the intelligence.

      I remember the emblem of the infantry. An asterisk framed by two branches.
      "I am sitting in the bushes ... waiting for the Hero." At the divisional divorce, they pinned each other. Oh ... the times.
    2. 11111mail.ru
      11111mail.ru 23 October 2014 05: 19
      0
      Quote: Tyumen
      A saying of Soviet times.

      The cable stretches through the mud, followed by the head of communications.
    3. Bearded
      Bearded 23 October 2014 17: 17
      0
      The cable stretches through the mud and behind it the entire communications company lol !
  29. voliador
    voliador 22 October 2014 21: 02
    +1
    Communication solves, if not everything, then a lot. Such things are vital.
  30. Leonid_Ka
    Leonid_Ka 22 October 2014 21: 12
    0
    Honestly, I was intrigued by a person with a professional interest in this field. However, it seems to me that the article is a little disingenuous. Yes, it is possible to create a communications complex that is highly immune to interference, but this can also be prevented. Suppose this device can transmit data at a speed of 10 Mbit / s in the medium without interference, and if interference is set, then the speed drops we put to 10 Kbit / s - i.e. the connection seems to be there, but its speed (i.e. quality) is greatly deteriorating. A panacea for all diseases has not yet been invented. By the way, Wi-Fi IEEE 802.11n and 4G network protocols work on a similar principle.
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 22 October 2014 22: 01
      0
      so it is written here in the article:
      “The complex uses an electronic system, allowing to significantly increase the switching speed over the frequency range, and the phased array antennas used in the complex, make it possible to close almost the entire spectrum of frequencies, which the probable opponent will simply be unable to drown out. ”

      The key here is how I understand "the entire frequency spectrum" and "switching speed".
      Creating interference across the entire spectrum is really quite difficult.
      1. Leonid_Ka
        Leonid_Ka 23 October 2014 09: 04
        +1
        Again, a little slyness. "The entire frequency range" is a relative thing. Those. from VHF to SDV? Most likely, this means the "entire range" of UK-waves, or rather only centimeter waves (frequencies 3 - 30 GHz), and, possibly, partially decimeter waves (frequencies 300 MHz - 3 GHz). Of course, it is more difficult to place interference in the wavelength range than one specific frequency, but this does not mean that it is not possible in principle.
        1. Andriuha077
          Andriuha077 23 October 2014 09: 15
          +1
          Quote: Leonid_Ka
          Suppose this device

          journals.ioffe.ru/pjtf/2011/04/p68-75.pdf
          The diffuser is a single-sided printed circuit board and is formed by the shoulders of the dipole (a), the impedance transformer is a long line (b), a varicap (c) connected to a long line, bypass chokes (d) that separate the RF part of the diffuser from the control lines (e), The solution to the problem of minimizing the number of expensive microwave
          elements ... ... antennas of this type were proposed more than thirty years ago, but were not widely used due to the above features
          2011
          1. Leonid_Ka
            Leonid_Ka 23 October 2014 09: 50
            +1
            Thank you for the article! I myself graduate from UNN them. Lobachevsky. It was very interesting to read!
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  31. stranik72
    stranik72 22 October 2014 21: 33
    0
    I strongly doubt it, since today there is no domestic element base for this, and if the design idea is still capable, then technology and element base is our kirdyk.
  32. Leonardo
    Leonardo 22 October 2014 22: 02
    0
    Yes .. Zakharov's words: "There is no control without communication, there is no VICTORY without control!" I remember myself as a young platoon commander of the TLF ZAS. Received channels from R-409 and R-412. "Closed" them with "Elbrus". And all the same, "REBovtsy" wedged themselves into a secret connection. Enraged ... terrible thing. But that was in the exercises. Although ... signalmen, drivers and cooks really "work" in combat work during the exercises. Surely modern means of communication have appeared in modern times. However ... time flies.
    1. warrior1979
      warrior1979 23 October 2014 17: 57
      0
      Tell us how you can get a wedge into Elbrus? Maybe you can drive a wedge into the Yacht?
  33. Mestny
    Mestny 22 October 2014 22: 05
    0
    Quote: stranik72
    there is no domestic element base for this

    Please share exactly what elements are not in the domestic product range for work, for example, HEADLIGHTS?
  34. brdnxela
    brdnxela 22 October 2014 22: 26
    0
    In every sense, a positive interpretation of the concept "Get in touch"
  35. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 22 October 2014 23: 40
    -1
    A necessary, very necessary "thing"! He himself is a signalman and I understand what "constant, reliable, stable, uninterrupted" communication means! I wish everyone "communication without interruptions"! Such a light verbiage!
    1. warrior1979
      warrior1979 23 October 2014 17: 55
      0
      I apologize for the minus, I pressed the wrong one.
      But still, the ablation!
  36. ydjin
    ydjin 23 October 2014 04: 12
    0
    This technique is very necessary! No wonder we were called the NERVOUS ARMY! An organism devoid of nerve impulses will be paralyzed!
  37. Wolka
    Wolka 23 October 2014 05: 39
    0
    just wonderful, and quickly to the troops, now to work out the technique of interaction and on the road ...
  38. Poppy
    Poppy 23 October 2014 09: 39
    +1
    Well, why brag about it? such things must be kept secret
  39. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 23 October 2014 10: 43
    0
    Quote: EDELVEISS
    The connection has two states: 1. Just been !!! 2. Just about to be !!! laughing

    there are 3: "Yes, but does not work! .."

    Unofficial motto: "Signalers! Give me a connection without marriage!"
  40. Bearded
    Bearded 23 October 2014 17: 14
    0
    Communication-nerves of the army.
  41. Bort radist
    Bort radist 23 October 2014 19: 26
    0
    Quote: Barbudo
    Communication-nerves of the army.

    Loss of communication - there is a loss of command and control.
  42. gregor6549
    gregor6549 24 October 2014 05: 38
    0
    No, there has not been and is unlikely to be such a connection, which is impossible either to drown out or distort to such an extent that it will no longer even be possible to call it a connection. And any attempts to assert the opposite are nothing more than "la la", and "la la" is harmful , because it gives rise to unnecessary illusions where they should not be.
    In general, the tendency to such statements, and not only communications, is alarming. Only real ideas about the real and not advertising opportunities and limitations of equipment in service allow users of this equipment to make the right decisions on its effective use in real combat situations.