Poroshenko in the Design Bureau named after Yangel held up for the layout

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President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko and the head of the Dnipropetrovsk region arrived on a visit to the Design Bureau "Yuzhnoye" im.M.Yangelya. As is known, the Yangel Design Bureau is developing rocket and space technology. The Ukrainian president, arriving at the Design Bureau, examined the product mock-ups and managed to publish in his account of Feibsuk a photo on which he holds a rocket model.

Poroshenko in the Design Bureau named after Yangel held up for the layout


The persons accompanying Poroshenko and Kolomoisky managed not only to examine the models of rocket and space products, but also to ask why the official website of the Design Bureau “Yuzhnoye” presents users with information in languages ​​that do not include Ukrainian language. Site Qbyu has two versions: Russian and English. For Ukraine today, and especially that part of it, where the oligarch Kolomoisky is leading, this is a serious puncture. Apparently, the staff of the KB in the near future will have to pay attention to the urgent Ukrainization of their web resource ...

During a visit to the Yangel Design Bureau in Dnepropetrovsk, the lion's share of time was devoted to the issues of an “early” reorientation of the enterprise to “Western customers”. And do the "Western customers" themselves, that Poroshenko and Kolomoisky are going to reorient the CJS, have you heard something? ..
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  1. +49
    21 October 2014 17: 32
    Let Lyashko give it, just come in handy. laughing
    1. +16
      21 October 2014 17: 36
      Here are the new developments of Ukraine on a cosmic scale. Europe and America will obviously be interested in such developments, and money will flow like a river. We must understand that in space they must also know the position of Ukraine, and who is not agreed, see below.
      1. +2
        21 October 2014 17: 41
        During the visit to the Yangel Design Bureau in Dnepropetrovsk, the lion's share of the time was devoted to the issues of the "quick" reorientation of the enterprise to "Western customers".
        I wonder what is the share of Russian components in Dnipropetrovsk missiles, what, for example, are their engines? In general, can Ukraine completely, independently assemble missiles? After all, the famous Yuzhmash "Satan", in fact, was a product of the entire Soviet military-industrial complex.
        1. +2
          21 October 2014 17: 46
          Quote: enot73
          I wonder what is the share of Russian components on Dnepropetrovsk missiles, what kind of engines do they have, for example?
          Let's just say - very high, in fact CRITICAL for the organization of production.
          For example:
          Various modifications of the Zenit LV are made under the conditions of Russian-Ukrainian technological interaction at the Production Association Southern Machine-Building Plant named after A. Makarova "in Dnepropetrovsk, while 70% of components, including marching oxygen-kerosene engines RD-171M LPD (NPO Energomash) and upper stages DM-SL and DM-SLB (RSC Energia), are manufactured at Russian enterprises; the estimated cost of one carrier is 1,2–1,4 billion rubles (as of 2013 and without taking into account the price of launch services).
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          2. +15
            21 October 2014 18: 05
            Petro Poroshenko categorically stated that in the very near future the Ukrainian government will achieve strengthening of the hryvnia! And under favorable circumstances - even two hryvnia!
        2. +1
          21 October 2014 18: 26
          Quote: enot73
          In general, can Ukraine fully, independently collect missiles?

          It can, if they find where to buy titanium, which is actively used in parts of the rocket.
          The same "Zenith" they are doing today, according to relatives who work there.
          Something, but still can. And it will not be too difficult for them to reorient themselves to the West. We must pay tribute. It is another matter whether the West will sell them at least part of what they need? As the "local" Israelis said, the Yuzhnoye design bureau and the plant are not interesting to them. Which I personally doubt very much!
          1. +1
            21 October 2014 20: 00
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Quote: enot73
            In general, can Ukraine fully, independently collect missiles?

            It can, if they find where to buy titanium, which is actively used in parts of the rocket.
            The same "Zenith" they are doing today, according to relatives who work there.
            Something, but still can. And it will not be too difficult for them to reorient themselves to the West. We must pay tribute. It is another matter whether the West will sell them at least part of what they need? As the "local" Israelis said, the Yuzhnoye design bureau and the plant are not interesting to them. Which I personally doubt very much!

            Ukraine does not experience problems with its own production
            Ukraine has 20% of proven reserves of titanium ores. This is a key raw material for the production of aerospace products, medicines, paints.

            At the expense of reorientation to the West, I doubt very much that such a competitor is not the EU, or American offices do not need. The only thing is that Asian countries may be interested in the services of the Ukrainian Design Bureau, but the transfer of such technologies to Asia contradicts plans for world domination and there are no options at all!
          2. Who
            +2
            22 October 2014 01: 40
            without Russia, KB and Yuzhmash are worth nothing. And the Angara missile family completely covers the problems in relations with Ukraine
      2. +4
        21 October 2014 18: 18
        Let Petya put a model in his ass! Maybe the mind will increase)))
      3. +1
        21 October 2014 18: 38
        Quote: Moment
        Design Bureau "Southern" named after M. Yangel

        Quote: Moment
        the official website of the Yuzhne Design Bureau provides users with information in languages, among which there is no Ukrainian language.


        Ha, and Mikhailo Kuzmich himself will be from Irkutsk. His grandfather is only from Chernigov. Really, and his biography will now be "zaidan", and dug up at night dark from the Novodevichy cemetery?
    2. +2
      21 October 2014 17: 44
      They won’t burn anything here, they don’t expect additional competitors in Europe or the USA, they can only buy promising developments for nothing.
      1. +1
        21 October 2014 17: 47
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Neither Europe nor the USA are waiting for additional competitors; they can only buy promising developments for nothing.
        A possible market is the countries of the Near, Middle and Far East ... Pakistan, for example. And also Africa
      2. +2
        21 October 2014 18: 35
        Quote: Thought Giant
        They can only buy promising developments for nothing.

        This is for granted. A number of Ukrainian enterprises already European manufacturers from the former socialist countries have already watched and abandoned. We got what was required and Vali dear, we can do without you.
      3. 0
        21 October 2014 19: 45
        So the fact of the matter is that all developments will float away ...
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      1. 0
        21 October 2014 17: 54
        why the official website of the Design Office "Southern" provides users with information in languages, among which there is no Ukrainian language

        Whoever orders music dances. Great Dill will go on without this good for a long time, then why also scribble a version of the site on mov?
    4. 0
      21 October 2014 17: 54
      Monkey with a rocket laughing
    5. +2
      21 October 2014 18: 02
      Thoughts of Parashenko:
      "This will be a present for my most combative Pi **** su for the New Year"
      laughing
    6. +2
      21 October 2014 18: 03
      In skillful hands and horseradish - balalaika, in inept hands and balalaika - horseradish !!! Yes
    7. +2
      21 October 2014 20: 45
      Now the last money KB will go to the Ukrainianization of the site. nothing will be left to develop rockets ... will have to urgently re-qualify as a manufacturer of goods for shops. judging by the photo, what experience in this matter they already have laughing
  2. +8
    21 October 2014 17: 33
    Poroshenko at Yangel Design Bureau held on to the layout

    Something in my mind immediately "according to Freud"began to take shape. Well, I'm spoiled wassat
    1. +9
      21 October 2014 17: 42
      It seems not to you that it seemed to him that he is holding an anal dildo.
      1. +2
        21 October 2014 17: 53
        And there, along the way, the enterprise was retrained from the release of rockets to production ... well, you understand. Europe, that, here and there ... they more needed now Yes
    2. Viktor Kudinov
      +1
      21 October 2014 17: 46
      It all starts with this - at first this one will hold on to the layout, but in the end - a spoiled man ... feel
  3. +2
    21 October 2014 17: 34
    Better to try to reorient Western customers to the Yuzhnoye design bureau.
    1. +2
      21 October 2014 17: 47
      Quote: 73bor
      Better to try to reorient Western customers to the Yuzhnoye design bureau.

      Rather Lyashko reoriented to women. Although no, it’s unlikely that they will be on women, Lyashko will not behave on them, but on cattle such as rams and goats quite. And it is still unknown which of them will be in an active role.
  4. +2
    21 October 2014 17: 35
    During the visit to the Yangel Design Bureau in Dnepropetrovsk, the lion's share of the time was devoted to the issues of the "quick" reorientation of the enterprise to "Western customers".
    Well, all right, customers, and the units, assemblies, everything that Pivdennoye previously received from Russia, who will now supply? But this means a COMPLETE restructuring of production technology - the standards are different, WHERE the money to take for all this, is it not due to the "gas debt"? And how long will it take?
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    2. +7
      21 October 2014 17: 49
      Quote: svp67
      WHERE to get the money for all this, perhaps at the expense of the "gas debt"? And how long will it take?

      Why money? A bit of photoshop and ... voila ukroastronaut on the moon!
      1. +4
        21 October 2014 18: 08
        ..mock for the delivery of a model of an astronaut to a model of Mars ...
        1. +2
          21 October 2014 20: 28
          Quote: 222222
          ..mock for the delivery of a model of an astronaut to a model of Mars ...

          ha ha ha well said is truly a mock
          1. +4
            21 October 2014 21: 54
            And the president’s model held for all this ...
  5. +4
    21 October 2014 17: 36
    The accompanying persons of Poroshenko and Kolomoisky managed not only to examine the models of rocket and space products, but also to wonder why the official website of the Yuzhne Design Bureau provides users with information in languages, among which there is no Ukrainian language. The KBYu website has two versions: Russian and English. For Ukraine today, and especially that part of it where the oligarch Kolomoisky rules, this is a serious puncture. Apparently, in the near future, KB employees will have to pay attention to the urgent Ukrainization of their web resource ...
    1. +2
      21 October 2014 17: 50
      Probably there is no ukroversiya because then who needs these missiles in dill? They decided to send dill to Mars, so the cosmodrome is not ma! Who are these two Jews going to sell rocket launchers in dill? Strengthens idiocy and progresses.
  6. +10
    21 October 2014 17: 36
    Poroshenko looks like he thinks: "Oh, Lyashko will give such a present, he will be happy"
    1. +2
      21 October 2014 17: 51
      Quote: Wiruz
      Poroshenko seems to think so
      But he has in his hands a model of the civil use of the "Voevoda". One problem is that Pivdennoye produced them using the method of alteration from those missiles that were removed from combat duty in the Strategic Missile Forces of Russia and were sent to Ukraine. And now WHERE do they intend to take them?
    2. +4
      21 October 2014 18: 10
      Yes, it is not he who thinks: "you are a yak, a wonderful little game" wassat
    3. Anat1974
      +1
      21 October 2014 20: 47
      I'm afraid to even imagine what Lyashko thinks. The poor fellow does not sleep at night. Toil.
  7. +7
    21 October 2014 17: 36
    The accompanying persons of Poroshenko and Kolomoisky managed not only to examine the models of rocket and space products, but also to wonder why the official website of the Yuzhne Design Bureau provides users with information in languages, among which there is no Ukrainian language.

    Technical Ukrainian language does not exist.
    1. +6
      21 October 2014 18: 39
      Quote: Duke
      Technical Ukrainian language does not exist.

      now Ukrainians will quickly come up with a technical version of Ukrainian,
      I’m only afraid we'll burst out of laughter
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  9. Denis fj
    +6
    21 October 2014 17: 40
    The last “military” work of Mikhail Yangel (which was completed by Vladimir Utkin, who replaced him as chief designer in 1971) is the R-36M (SS-18) intercontinental missile. Mikhail Kuzmich came up with a unique idea - a rocket with ... "mortar launch"! She fired from a container, and her engines started already in flight.

    - This is pure absurdity! - shouted opponents. - Such a colossus in two hundred tons will not fly!

    Flew! So much so that the Americans, who had nothing of the kind, respectfully called her "Satan" and, finally, sat down at the negotiating table - on the reduction of nuclear missile weapons. After all - the Dnepropetrovsk "Satan" hidden in mine installations was practically invulnerable, besides, at that time it was impossible to intercept.

    Also, thanks to the development of Dnepropetrovsk, liquid rockets could now be in the refueling state not for a couple of months, but for several years!

    ... Other - peaceful - ideas of Mikhail Yangel came to life: space carriers Cosmos, Intercosmos, Cyclone-2, Cyclone-3 were created on the basis of military missiles. Even the formidable "Satan" has become the current peaceful carrier of the Dnieper.

    In addition, for the first time in world practice, mass production of satellites was organized at YuMZ. Dnepropetrovsk developed and built more than 70 types of spacecraft, more than 400 of them were launched into orbit
    1. 0
      21 October 2014 17: 44
      Only now, the Ukrainian authorities did not manage to keep their (now their own) military-industrial complex

      Read, interesting: http://russian.rt.com/article/46221
    2. +4
      21 October 2014 18: 14
      Yes, there was a great country, great accomplishments, and that’s what we’ve come to
  10. +2
    21 October 2014 17: 40
    It seems that Europeans will be happy with such mock-ups, and everyone understands in which stores they will be enjoying tremendous success. The factory will be fully loaded!
  11. +2
    21 October 2014 17: 41
    He held it, held it. Now put it in its place ... there’s still no money, and you won’t expect such toys. So dig a fence.)))) Is cheaper and it will be on maydaneste.
  12. +3
    21 October 2014 17: 42
    Judging by the state of industry and the economy of Ukraine, Poroshenko often clings to Obama’s hell!
  13. +3
    21 October 2014 17: 43
    ..... Poroshenko at the Yangel Design Bureau held on to the layout ....

    ..... All he has left is how to hold on to the model ..... The space "power" of Ukraine is over ... wassat
  14. +18
    21 October 2014 17: 43
    Hold on? And now for you.
    Miller is talking with Poroshenko in Milan.
  15. +3
    21 October 2014 17: 45
    It is unlikely that "Western customers" will be interested in cardboard missiles. Rather, we are talking about the technologies that the KBY will provide to interested parties. Moreover, these may be "eastern customers" such as China or Korea.
  16. +2
    21 October 2014 17: 49
    Quote: aleks 62
    ..... Poroshenko at the Yangel Design Bureau held on to the layout ....

    ..... All he has left is how to hold on to the model ..... The space "power" of Ukraine is over ... wassat

    Held by myself, let the other hold on! good
  17. +2
    21 October 2014 17: 52
    Poroshenko in the Yangel Design Bureau held on to the "model".

    ABOUT! ABOUT! ABOUT! I! I! he will have a "layout" in time! with lyashko he will share it !!!
  18. +2
    21 October 2014 17: 55
    Miller is handsome, I am sure it was very difficult for him not to show P.a.r.a.sh.ke the other finger .... am
  19. +1
    21 October 2014 17: 56
    Everything has already been sold to China and a caraion for a long time, or you think they fly into space in space shuttles in 90 tons. The documentation went to China under the guise of waste paper. There were even arrests of merchants of secret waste paper from us, and Ukraine participated in this no less, they sold everything we could. and it’s impossible, so this is no longer relevant.
  20. 0
    21 October 2014 17: 58
    in the sex shop, he didn’t hold any models? feel
  21. +1
    21 October 2014 17: 58
    Let's get into the "drawings" and transfer all the design documentation to the MOVU ...
    For ukro-techies free advice:
    invent the Ukrainian system of measurements (UkroSI), otherwise they use the SI system - you will ** use it now.
    laughing
  22. +1
    21 October 2014 18: 05
    Without mova it will not fly. And nobody jumps to the design bureau. As Kuchma left, they won’t jump. A century of freedom not to be seen!
  23. 0
    21 October 2014 18: 05
    Let at least hold on to the layout, if not at all.
  24. +1
    21 October 2014 18: 13
    I think that all this talk about civilian missiles is a cover, in fact, the issue of starting the production of Sapsan missile systems at KB Pivdennoye was being decided ...
    1. 0
      21 October 2014 20: 31
      And here is the confirmation:
      President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko instructed to include in the state defense order for next year the products of the state-owned enterprise “Production Association Southern Machine-Building Plant named after Makarov”, including high-precision weapons. This was reported by the press service of the president.

      21.10.2014, 19: 44
      “I am instructing you to amend the state defense order - to open financing for the production of precision weapons, cruise missiles, and a complex that will provide tactical weapons,” the head of state said during a working trip to Dnepropetrovsk. “We must be sure that our army, the armed forces, their equipment correspond to the best world standards,” Poroshenko said.

      Original article: http://russian.rt.com/article/55512#ixzz3GnW4iKgE
  25. 0
    21 October 2014 18: 17
    And what about the picture - a masturbator?
  26. +2
    21 October 2014 18: 19
    Somewhere already "wandered" a reference book for translating medical terms into MOV. So the doctors "quietly" lay down on the floor. But if they translate technical terminology into MOV, then money for space will no longer be needed. I had to convert inches to mm from paper drawings - "quiet" horror. It's easier to draw new ones. But by the way ... Flag in hand and ...
  27. +13
    21 October 2014 18: 34
    Quote: Wiruz
    Poroshenko looks like he thinks: "Oh, Lyashko will give such a present, he will be happy"

    She inspired him in her creation:
  28. +1
    21 October 2014 18: 36
    Just like a rubber member he held on, and for Europe this is the most urgent, strategic product. So guys re-profile quickly, even if you have some loot.
  29. +1
    21 October 2014 19: 00
    Petyune sho and remains - hold on to Yangel. Well, at least the sneakers did not make a model in chocolate, the Schaub was impressed, crap. am
  30. +1
    21 October 2014 19: 02
    Probably Kolmyysky Benya and the head of the Nazi state Petro Potroshenko dream of a rocket from Yuzhmash, a shot at Donetsk and Moscow.
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  32. +1
    21 October 2014 19: 52
    BOTH adventurers - send to SPACE .. yes away!

    ------------------------
    Fixed!
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    Violation of clause "I" of the rules

    With respect!
    © Finger
  33. 0
    21 October 2014 20: 04
    They could only hold on to something ...
  34. 0
    21 October 2014 20: 18
    So why did the bitchy giblets hold on? For something phallic? His ... or someone else's? Probably like that guy from an anecdote to whom the doctor advised watching erotic films in the cinema as a remedy for impotence. And he, controlling the "cure", mistakenly thrust his hand into someone else's fly and was delighted with someone else's erection.
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  36. 0
    21 October 2014 21: 11
    How disgusting it looks, as if the fascist got into his house, which was once built by the whole country, including his dirty grandfather in blood, including my grandfathers and grandmothers, who were torn by the whole Soviet world, built our defense, ours economy, our Motherland, one huge, affectionate for all of their children - both Kazakhs and Russians, Ukrainians, Uzbeks, Tatars, all the inhabitants of the USSR. And now they are breaking their filthy little hands, what does not belong to them at all. Yes, we split up, got divorced, yes - we live in different rooms, Russians, Ukrainians, Armenians, Lithuanians, you can’t list all of them, but still it’s still our huge communal apartment, which everyone plowed at, and all the nishtyaks, factories, production and science, all this is built by common efforts. It is on this basis that relations should be built, and not neighbors to cut wires, not to each other on the rug, not to steal light bulbs. Oh you brothers and sisters, damn it ... There is no father on you ...
    Also this creature is sitting there, Kolomoisk ...
  37. 0
    21 October 2014 21: 51
    It is a pity if the technical documentation for Satan gets to the Americans. According to her, they can improve their missile defense.
    1. 0
      21 October 2014 22: 42
      Nobody handed over missile defense electronics.
  38. 0
    21 October 2014 22: 41
    Judging by how he held on, the bucket itself had long been reoriented laughing .
  39. 0
    21 October 2014 23: 17
    Just now, a whole design bureau without Russia will rivet layouts. good
  40. +1
    21 October 2014 23: 20
    Hands off Soviet legacy!
  41. 0
    21 October 2014 23: 47
    Enough to gloat !!! Space, science, rockets are always good !! even in the hands of P.Parashenko ...
  42. +3
    22 October 2014 01: 10
    why the official website of the Design Office "Southern" provides users with information in languages, among which there is no Ukrainian language.

    One of my comrades served in aviation in Ukraine during the collapse of the USSR. After gaining independence, the Ukrainization of everything and everything began: the oath, charters, paperwork, etc. And then we got to the technical documentation. The translation of the operational and technical documentation into the Movement caused nothing but misunderstanding and laughter. Spitting on national pride, we decided to leave in Russian hi
  43. kolyasha19rus
    0
    22 October 2014 05: 28
    Some kind of madhouse.
  44. 0
    22 October 2014 07: 04
    Yes, this is far from chocolate!
  45. 0
    22 October 2014 08: 04
    Quote: Cherdak
    Ha, and Mikhailo Kuzmich himself will be from Irkutsk. His grandfather is only from Chernigov. Really, and his biography will now be "zaidan", and dug up at night dark from the Novodevichy cemetery?

    Also surprised. Siberian Yangel, by the will of the Politburo, was appointed to lead the Yuzhmash Design Bureau, and Svidomo has not yet been renamed. Really a mess in Ukraine.
  46. 0
    22 October 2014 09: 28
    They are looking for "Western partners". They don't care who DOES NOT pay! From the category it does not matter at what price not to pay for gas.

    Ukraine refused to pay Roskosmos engine construction / Izvestia, Wednesday, October 22, 2014 /

    Roscosmos will not supply the RD-171M engine for the Zenit rocket to Ukraine intended to launch the first Ukrainian geostationary broadcasting satellite Lybid (the launch was scheduled for mid-2014). The management of the Dnepropetrovsk-based Yuzhmash, where Zenit is made, over the course of 5 in recent months has sought the Russian side to supply the engine without payment. But in the end, the parties could not come to an agreement.
    http://izvestia.ru/news/578326