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US Congress is concerned about the rearmament of the Crimea

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US congressmen accused the Kremlin of wanting to place nuclear carriers on the Crimean Peninsula weaponssuch as strategic bombers Tu-22М3 and Iskander missile systems, the newspaper reports Kommersant.



Members of Congress reported on Moscow’s plans to President Obama. The letter was signed by the head of the Armed Services Committee, Howard McCone, and a number of his colleagues.

The parliamentarians say that “in early August, the Russian authorities decided to transfer Tu-22М3 bombers and Iskander-M complexes to the Crimea, which could in the future strike with the P-500 high-precision cruise missiles, including nuclear warheads.”

The latter circumstance, according to congressmen, “is a direct violation of the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Small-Range Missiles, signed by the USSR in 1987 year, since the range of this missile’s flight is 2600 km (according to the agreement - from 500 to 5500 km).

“Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its consent is a cunning and cynical decision,” the letter says. “This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.”

Lawmakers have demanded that Obama report to Congress in the near future on possible retaliatory measures that Washington may take.

According to parliamentarians, such a response step could be "the decision to completely stop all contacts between members of the military alliance and Moscow, as well as the withdrawal of Russian military personnel from NATO bases and facilities." It was also proposed to “prohibit Russia from conducting inspection flights within the framework of the“ open skies ”treaty (allows its participants to fly over each other’s territories in order to comply with existing arms control treaties)”.

Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stated that complexes like the Iskander could be located anywhere on the territory of Russia: “Where we want, we put it there!”.

More specifically, the need for a full-fledged grouping of troops on the Crimean Peninsula was discussed at the September panel of the Ministry of Defense. Shoigu attributed this to the “sharply exacerbated situation in Ukraine and the military presence of foreigners in the immediate vicinity of Russia's borders.” NATO responded instantly, saying that the expansion of the Russian military presence in Crimea would lead to increased tensions in Europe. ”

However, this statement on the plans of the Russian military in no way affected. As one of the high-ranking interlocutors of the newspaper in the General Staff said, "equipping the peninsula with the latest weapons is currently one of the priority areas."
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 21 October 2014 16: 27
    +139
    “Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its consent is a cunning and cynical decision,” the letter says. “This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.”

    Well, colleagues, this is generally prohibitive cynicism! belay
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 21 October 2014 16: 34
      +67

      When on the way to Red Square flies over the roofs (we can clearly see from the balcony), different planes cause different sensations.

      Tu-95 - horror, the feeling of approaching the Apocalypse, Tu-22, Tu-160 - delight and admiration

      The rest is pride


      I want to say, from here and the screams of Congress, have seen enough of these planes ...
      1. Момент
        Момент 21 October 2014 16: 51
        +55
        Russia is also against NATO troops in the Baltic states. Well, that’s all the same, they’re placing it. We want to install Crimea, Russia, and we don’t want to.
        1. b0bi
          b0bi 21 October 2014 16: 56
          +45
          “Wherever we want, we put it there!”
          Gold words.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 21 October 2014 17: 27
            +38
            Quote: b0bi
            “Wherever we want, we put it there!”


            We are also concerned about the deployment of air defense systems and strike delivery vehicles with nuclear warheads in Alaska and in Europe. Remove them from there and there will be no precedent. In the meantime, do not meddle in our soup with your own hands. bully
            1. edge
              edge 22 October 2014 05: 16
              +8
              [quote = Lelek] We are also worried about the deployment of air defense systems and strike delivery vehicles

              well, and besides, it allows you to cover Moldova with Transnistria: to neutralize the Romanians, Germans and Albanians .....
              1. kuz363
                kuz363 22 October 2014 15: 22
                +1
                Why worry about Moldova if it joined the EU, and then it becomes a member of NATO
                1. ermolai
                  ermolai 22 October 2014 17: 02
                  +1
                  Moldova can only hold membership can in hands with subsequent integration ...
              2. sgazeev
                sgazeev 23 October 2014 11: 29
                0
                [quote = gurt] [quote = Lelek] We are also worried about the deployment of air defense systems and strike delivery vehicles

                Well, in addition, it allows you to cover Moldova with Transnistria: to neutralize the Romanians, Germans and Albanians ..... [/ quote]
                Rather, the base in Kosovo, Albania is so-so this or that.
          2. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 21 October 2014 17: 33
            +11
            Actually, as I remember, he said: "Our Iskanders, wherever we want, are put there!"
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          3. sgazeev
            sgazeev 23 October 2014 11: 26
            +1
            Quote: b0bi
            “Wherever we want, we put it there!”
            Gold words.

            Cuba is next in line. recourse
          4. PEGASUS
            PEGASUS 23 October 2014 13: 07
            +2
            And soon it will be- where we want to go there and INSERT
          5. Free Island
            Free Island 23 October 2014 13: 21
            +1
            still "wherever we want, we will shoot there!"))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) it would have caused massive heart attacks in the White House and mass desertions in the army of the "Kingdom of Obossanogomatras!"
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        3. Iline
          Iline 21 October 2014 18: 33
          +10
          This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region. "

          The fact that these NATO bases have long approached the borders of Russia is somehow bashfully silent.
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        5. 73bor
          73bor 23 October 2014 20: 15
          0
          The growing military presence in Crimea contributes to the escalation of tension in Europe - it does not contribute at all, rather it will cool, some, hot heads!
      2. Vladimir73
        Vladimir73 22 October 2014 12: 08
        +1
        Quote: bulvas
        When on the way to Red Square flies over the roofs (we can clearly see from the balcony), different planes cause different sensations.

        Tu-95 - horror, the feeling of approaching the Apocalypse, Tu-22, Tu-160 - delight and admiration

        The rest is pride


        I want to say, from here and the screams of Congress, have seen enough of these planes ...


        Duc like their congress is located in Washington, and not in the Kremlin ?!
      3. smern1974
        smern1974 23 October 2014 00: 12
        0
        the idea of ​​transferring their ambassadors to forever, for example on the EEEEEEEE ladles to hell
    2. Sid.74
      Sid.74 21 October 2014 16: 35
      +48
      Sorry not on topic. Good news.

      In the LPR announced the unification of the forces of the LPR army, Mozgovoy and Kozitsyn! yes

      Now it’s Donetsk’s turn, enough of the Makhnovism.
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    3. APES
      APES 21 October 2014 16: 36
      +49
      Quote: Vladimirets
      transcendental cynicism!


      ENEMY REQUIRED

      A mature, North American Superpower is looking for a hostile country to participate in the arms race, conflicts in third world countries and general confrontation. It should be threatening enough to convince us to provide funding. Preference will be given to those with a nuclear arsenal, proposals from
      come close to creating nuclear weapons. Land, any area.

      Pentagon, Washington, DC, USA
      1. herruvim
        herruvim 21 October 2014 16: 42
        +6
        Worried they see, just tremble
        1. quote
          quote 21 October 2014 16: 54
          +9
          This hackneyed record will play for a long time? Previously, the song was called The Soviet Threat. Sick !!! It’s time to get the gramophone TURNING out from Phasington.
        2. avg
          avg 21 October 2014 17: 11
          +21
          And why were the mattresses excited? Just mastering the peninsula, the Tu-22M3 pilots train in flights over the sea, prepare for the flight to the island. For example, to Cuba.
          1. Lelek
            Lelek 21 October 2014 17: 30
            +13
            Quote: avg
            And why were the mattresses excited?



            Just granddaughters for lunch fly to their grandmothers, because love them very much. bully
          2. saksan
            saksan 21 October 2014 21: 04
            +8
            Crimea sailed home. 22e also return to where they used to be. In the Guards.
            1. shed
              shed 22 October 2014 16: 27
              +3
              soon to return to Belarus where they used to stand, how many cries will be
          3. ermolai
            ermolai 22 October 2014 17: 07
            +1
            Quote: avg
            And why were the mattresses worried

            Duc their sailors in the troughs diving there cannot keep watch, and there are not enough latvines. paper ends after the Bosphorus.
        3. fif21
          fif21 21 October 2014 17: 50
          +14
          Quote: herruvim
          Worried they see, just tremble
          The fact that the mattresses promised Russia and did not fulfill, we also remember. There is no faith in you. Worry further and more often, stock up on diapers and bomb shelters. You will get the answer for expanding NATO eastward, and for deploying a missile defense system near the borders of Russia, and for starting a war in Ukraine, and for interfering in the affairs of other states. Russia has its own interests. REMEMBER THIS.
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      2. severniy
        severniy 21 October 2014 22: 52
        +1
        Quote: APES
        Quote: Vladimirets
        transcendental cynicism!


        ENEMY REQUIRED

        A mature, North American Superpower is looking for a hostile country to participate in the arms race, conflicts in third world countries and general confrontation. It should be threatening enough to convince us to provide funding. Preference will be given to those with a nuclear arsenal, proposals from
        come close to creating nuclear weapons. Land, any area.

        Pentagon, Washington, DC, USA

        wahahahahhhhh laughing
      3. smern1974
        smern1974 23 October 2014 00: 18
        +1
        drum on the neck and flag in anal and marching to hell
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    5. armageddon
      armageddon 21 October 2014 16: 45
      +7
      Hmm ... Well, they said: "Where we want there and put ... !!!"
    6. 222222
      222222 21 October 2014 16: 47
      +9
      The US Congress is concerned about the rearmament of the Crimea. ""
      From October 21 to October 30, 2014, two multinational exercises of the Air Force are being held on the territory of Italy to work out the entire range of activities with nuclear weapons of the US armed forces "exercise Steadfast Noon-STRIKEVAL 2014"
      Location - Italy and the northern and central part of the Adriatic
      1. enot73
        enot73 21 October 2014 16: 59
        +36
        Quote: 222222
        The US Congress was concerned about the rearmament of Crimea.

        Still not to worry - after all, the deployment of Tu - 22 m3 and Iskander in Crimea nullifies the entire missile defense system in Europe. Hence the screeching. Money, then bye - bye!
        1. VAF
          VAF 21 October 2014 17: 20
          +18
          Quote: enot73
          - after all, the deployment of Tu-22 m3 and Iskander missiles in Crimea nullifies the entire missile defense system in Europe.


          From the territory of Belarus, it is much closer and the opportunity .. "to get" .. away wink

          A photo of the dill three ... not comme il faut negative
        2. FID
          FID 21 October 2014 17: 22
          +16
          Sorry, but you posted an unsuccessful photo ... A trident on a keel ... Probably an old photo.
          1. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 21 October 2014 17: 45
            +18
            If the Germans drew crosses on our tanks captured by them, so they can’t be laid out photos ?! Dill did not produce this, they gave them out of honesty, with friendly intentions, because the products are ours. Maybe this keel was lit up at a repair plant. And how many Tu-160's they cut b ... and for the sake of mattresses.
          2. enot73
            enot73 21 October 2014 23: 05
            +13
            Quote: vaf
            From the territory of Belarus, it is much closer and the opportunity .. "to get" .. away

            A photo of the dill three ... not comme il faut

            Quote: SSI
            Sorry, but you posted an unsuccessful photo ... A trident on a keel ... Probably an old photo.
            I can only apologize for the photo - I have not considered the demand, and it’s small. So this is just an annoying misunderstanding. And as for Belarus, I can say that missile defense elements will also be in the Czech Republic and Romania, so that the Tu - 22 M3 in the Crimea will not be in the way. That's better ? good
            1. Horn
              Horn 22 October 2014 06: 55
              +2
              A handsome man takes off (air intakes are open). It is necessary to restore airfields and military camps in the North, the Far East and Kola.
              1. VAF
                VAF 22 October 2014 14: 15
                +2
                Quote: Horn
                Handsome man takes off


                A handsome man lands on a glide path, on take-off, after a break I give the command immediately to the chassis. The flaps. Headlights to remove (the exception is take-off with the maximum take-off weight) soldier

                Quote: Horn
                (air intakes open)


                How's that? belay Maybe you saw the position of the wedge of the OT and the bypass tape? wassat
              2. Basarev
                Basarev 23 October 2014 16: 03
                +1
                And to restore the continuous radar field over the country so that all scum would not fly.
            2. FID
              FID 22 October 2014 10: 57
              +4
              Quote: enot73
              That's better ?

              Much!!! good
            3. Alex_Popovson
              Alex_Popovson 23 October 2014 10: 02
              +1
              There will be no missile defense in the Czech Republic. They muddy a whole movement there. Type of missile defense is not needed, Kosovo-Serbia and all that. It’s just that we don’t really pay attention to it, and there the state is at all aches.
        3. 222222
          222222 21 October 2014 17: 30
          0
          By the way, according to one of the sites in the exercises, 3F-16 of the Polish Air Force takes part .. However ...
          ..exercise Steadfast Noon 20-10 / 24-10 Ghedi,
          3x F-16 PolAF
          3x F-16 TuAF 191Filo (Turks understand ..from 191 air balkesir, but Poles ?????)
      2. 222222
        222222 21 October 2014 17: 37
        +3
        Avb Gedi Torre Italy
        http://fas.org/blogs/security/2014/06/ghedi/
    7. Denis fj
      Denis fj 21 October 2014 16: 51
      +48
      It seems that Stalin also said: "If our enemies scold us, then we are doing everything right."
    8. max702
      max702 21 October 2014 16: 52
      +19
      “It is a direct violation of the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Short Range Missiles, signed by the USSR in 1987, since the flight range of this missile is 2600 km (from the agreement, from 500 to 5500 km).
      And where did we break that? "Iskander" seems to be flying 50-500 km where did they see the violation ????
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    10. Akvadra
      Akvadra 21 October 2014 16: 58
      +4
      Onion stinks? Get away, it won’t stink!
      Quote: Vladimirets
      “Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its consent is a cunning and cynical decision,” the letter says. “This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.”

      Well, colleagues, this is generally prohibitive cynicism! belay
      1. pv1005
        pv1005 21 October 2014 17: 08
        +5
        Well, how do you want? Announced to the whole world that Russia has moved to NATO, so we have moved, Russia cannot allow that its "partners" would be called idle talk. laughing
        1. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 21 October 2014 17: 48
          +4
          They shouted that the Russians had landed in Georgia! Well, at least Georgia was found-Georgia in Amerovsky.
    11. Nicholas
      Nicholas 21 October 2014 17: 25
      +12
      The entire personnel of military unit 26292 has been preoccupied since November 1979 with placing them on)))) HOKKAIDO !!!! American B-52.
    12. Giant thought
      Giant thought 21 October 2014 17: 26
      +2
      Paranoia completely brainwashed American politicians.
      1. edge
        edge 22 October 2014 05: 26
        +2
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Paranoia completely brainwashed American politicians.

        .... everything is not so guys; it's just an excuse to squeeze a few tens of blades from the military budget, scare the people and drive them away into debt.
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    14. raccoon
      raccoon 21 October 2014 17: 34
      +2
      A "FUCK"
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    16. vsoltan
      vsoltan 21 October 2014 17: 50
      +2
      Not cynicism ... sorry, transcendent idiocy
    17. oblako
      oblako 21 October 2014 18: 06
      +3
      Absolutely! Vladimir. Strength rules, there is no international law and we must proceed from these realities. And do not entertain yourself with illusions as in the new thinking)))
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    19. Kostyar
      Kostyar 21 October 2014 18: 22
      +3
      US Congress worried about rearmament of Crimea ... ???

      I don’t understand the meaning of the title of the article, why the hell are they Indians or something, and the Russian army should rearm the Crimea with slingshots and bows ...
      1. the villain
        the villain 22 October 2014 10: 33
        +2
        Quote: Bone
        what are we damn, according to their concepts, Indians or something

        According to their concepts, yes, and they will do with us, give them free rein, exactly the same. You can’t relax, the enemy must be sure that in which case he will rake so that he can no longer rise. am
    20. Gradus HuK
      Gradus HuK 21 October 2014 19: 33
      +10
      What a squeal? It seems that nothing has been imported to the KUBU))
    21. 225chay
      225chay 21 October 2014 20: 38
      +3
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without his consent is an insidious and cynical decision, the letter says. “This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.”


      We still did not have enough to listen to this blatant Saxon rot ...
    22. Antor
      Antor 22 October 2014 00: 27
      +10
      It’s all in the same spirit that it was not NATO that approached the borders of Russia, but the shameless Russia to blame for everything, it was dangerous and insidious closer to the military alliance !?
      Russia has stood, and will stand and will stand, no matter how insidious Western Russophobes try to teach it, the main thing is that we have less in the power of all half-witted politicians, like Gorbachev, Yeltsin and his hedgehog, and more real statesmen like Peter 1, there are fewer Serdyuk and Vasilyevs of any kind and all sorts of "podlucky" who siphon off state funds, including for defense, and more, within the limits of the necessary, the most modern systems of Russian weapons!
      Americans and their Western allies are doing what they want, for example, on missile defense in Europe near our borders, and at the same time they are hypocrites that this is not against Russia and that we will appeal to their conscience so that they do not! ??
      Gentlemen-Westerners with their sanctions threw off the mask-tricks of their peace, only an unwise person does not understand the goals of their constant and steady coverage of our borders with their military bases!
      If you want peace, prepare for war, this terrible truth in its own way is as relevant today as never before, the United States openly placed Russia in second place after the IS as its enemy, the US Secretary of Defense calls on the armed forces to be ready to confront the Russian armed forces, etc. etc..!!!!
      And at the same time we are accused of all mortal sins, having arrogated to ourselves the right to indicate how and what of our weapons to place on our territory! Vysotsky has a song about Kanatchikova’s dacha and the striking similarity of American obscurantists with its individual mentally and manic-sick inhabitants undoubtedly requires adequate protection from them!
      And the possibility of burning up in the flames of the nuclear weapons of our Iskander and not only today is the only way to stop the aggressive intentions of the American military against Russia, therefore, to put them where and how much is needed.
    23. Blondy
      Blondy 22 October 2014 03: 16
      +4
      It is possible and simpler: what your dog business!
    24. Sandah
      Sandah 22 October 2014 03: 21
      0
      "The US Congress was worried about the rearmament of the Crimea" - too much shit
    25. falikreutov
      falikreutov 22 October 2014 09: 44
      0
      No, this is not cynicism - this is idiocy!
    26. Vladimir K.
      Vladimir K. 22 October 2014 11: 22
      +2
      But not that American nuclear missiles are deployed all over the world and the opinion of the population of those countries where this happened no one asked?
    27. jaguar
      jaguar 22 October 2014 13: 19
      0
      But this is not theirs dog thing. We are at home what we want and do !!!! And neh ... report to all monkeys am
    28. OlegLex
      OlegLex 22 October 2014 14: 01
      +1
      This is not cynicism, in this case the etymology of this word does not contain the entirety of the assessment of the situation, it is time to introduce a new designation. I suggest, for example, AMERICANISM
    29. ermolai
      ermolai 22 October 2014 16: 57
      0
      Quote: Vladimirets
      This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region. "

      and about the benefits, he said tanned very well, well, he just doesn’t know what we have in the production of diapers
    30. alien50
      alien50 23 October 2014 06: 13
      +2
      Crimea is mine !!!
      Nuclear weapons are mine !!!!
      Where I want, there I put !!!
      On its territory !!!
      I won’t ask the mongrels from Nata !!!
      (Russia!) am
      1. Serg 122
        Serg 122 23 October 2014 11: 14
        +2
        US congressmen blame Kremlin

        The question itself begs: "So what ?!" repeat
    31. sgazeev
      sgazeev 23 October 2014 11: 20
      +1
      Quote: Vladimirets
      “Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its consent is a cunning and cynical decision,” the letter says. “This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.”

      Well, colleagues, this is generally prohibitive cynicism! belay

      Well, yes. If you do a favor to a person, he immediately sits on your head. recourse
    32. lidiy
      lidiy 23 October 2014 19: 43
      0
      So move the NATO bases. Then Russia will not come close to them.
    33. fedorovith
      fedorovith 23 October 2014 22: 07
      0
      And they have normal around the world. fellow
    34. Rimsler2014
      Rimsler2014 24 October 2014 16: 17
      0
      Well, colleagues, this is generally prohibitive cynicism! belay
      Well, in general it is both transcendental cynicism and transcendental insanity, 2in1, do not interfere with one another.
  2. Alf
    Alf 21 October 2014 16: 27
    +42
    Where we want, we put it there. And if you get diarrhea from this event, then "the sheriff's problems do not bother the negro."
    1. Viktor Kudinov
      Viktor Kudinov 21 October 2014 16: 53
      +4
      You never know what someone does not like. For example, I do not like the presence of NATO in the Baltic states. And what - NATO will listen to me - get out of the way !!? angry
    2. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 21 October 2014 18: 02
      +2
      So "Bathing" is forbidden, but he swims! Bathing has the meaning of "BAPTISM". From that, Ivan bathed, that is, the "baptist", but if you take it even more ancient, Ancient Rus, then Kupalo = the idol of earthly fruits among the ancient Slavs. At the beginning of the harvest, they brought him a sacrifice from June 23 to June 24, and this is how they united John the Baptist with a pagan idol. On June 23, the memory of Agrippina the Martyr, who was nicknamed after the pagan holiday "Bathing Lady".
      1. family tree
        family tree 21 October 2014 20: 34
        +1
        Quote: shasherin.pavel
        From that and Ivan bathed, that is, "the baptist",

        belay
      2. SSR
        SSR 21 October 2014 22: 46
        +1
        Quote: shasherin.pavel
        So "Bathing" is forbidden, but he swims! Bathing has the meaning "Bather".

        Maybe all the same here "bathing" is not entirely appropriate ?! This is a military technique and it doesn't need to "swim" or even swim, it needs to walk, walk on water! Well, you can, for that matter, about the Saints, who bathed and who treated, only one walked on the water.
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 October 2014 16: 28
    +7
    Well, for the sanctions. The dog barks, and the caravan goes on.
    On our territory we set what we want and where we want. Crimea is ours!
  4. Yaroslav83
    Yaroslav83 21 October 2014 16: 29
    +8
    That's right. Wherever we want, we put it there!
  5. single
    single 21 October 2014 16: 29
    +6
    "Members of Congress told President Obama about Moscow's plans"
    ... Strange ... And where is the NSA, the CIA and other intelligence services ...?
    1. Alf
      Alf 21 October 2014 16: 32
      +2
      Quote: Single
      "Members of Congress told President Obama about Moscow's plans"
      ... Strange ... And where is the NSA, the CIA and other intelligence services ...?

      The holiday season has begun.
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 21 October 2014 16: 47
        0
        Quote: Alf
        Quote: Single
        "Members of Congress told President Obama about Moscow's plans"
        ... Strange ... And where is the NSA, the CIA and other intelligence services ...?

        The holiday season has begun.

        Want to ride to the Crimea to verify this information?
    2. Warlock_r
      Warlock_r 21 October 2014 16: 36
      +1
      where, where on Facebook, they haven’t written about it yet.
    3. Cap-3 USSR
      Cap-3 USSR 21 October 2014 16: 43
      0
      Looks like they didn’t dig anything in social networks.
    4. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 21 October 2014 18: 05
      0
      So CIA agents do not read the Internet, unlike members of Congress and Pisaki!
    5. the villain
      the villain 22 October 2014 10: 39
      +1
      Quote: Single
      "Members of Congress told President Obama about Moscow's plans"

      It’s strange that he didn’t learn about it from his facebook or from Twitter. laughing
  6. Wanderer H7
    Wanderer H7 21 October 2014 16: 29
    +2
    Pinduossoss completely insolent. Something sluggish reaction of Russia to this, you can’t get away with it
  7. Drmadfisher
    Drmadfisher 21 October 2014 16: 29
    +7
    in my apartment I want a refrigerator wherever I put it there.
    Our land and NEX tell us angry
    Would put in Cuba ...
    1. mch1950
      mch1950 21 October 2014 16: 48
      +2
      And what about Cuba? Cuba is Russian land.
      1. Vasek
        Vasek 21 October 2014 17: 26
        +5
        Quote: mch1950
        And what about Cuba? Cuba is Russian land.

        and Fedya Kostrov - our resident! laughing
  8. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 21 October 2014 16: 30
    +23
    Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stated that complexes like the Iskander could be located anywhere on the territory of Russia: “Where we want, we put it there!”.
    1. Denis fj
      Denis fj 21 October 2014 16: 46
      +5
      So then it is.
      But we put on our territory. And the USA is all over the world.
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  9. Petergut
    Petergut 21 October 2014 16: 30
    +3
    US congressmen accused the Kremlin of wanting to deploy nuclear weapons carriers such as the Tu-22M3 strategic bombers and Iskander missile systems on the Crimean peninsula


    Well, we decided to place it and decided, why this is so, not in Iowa and not in Nebraska.
  10. La hire
    La hire 21 October 2014 16: 30
    +10
    When I say that the Pindos are already "insolent to the brink", I always have to take my words back. Because there is no limit to their impudence.
    1. Vanko
      Vanko 22 October 2014 22: 16
      +1
      Quote: La Hire
      When I say that the Pindos are already "insolent to the brink", I always have to take my words back. Because there is no limit to their impudence.


      At first it seemed to everyone that there was nowhere below, and then they broke through the bottom ... request
  11. Neighbor
    Neighbor 21 October 2014 16: 31
    +11
    Russians are disturbed and even somehow nervous about the actions of NATO near the borders of Russia. And if someone does not like what Russia is doing in its territory
    This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region. "
    Then let him move to a safe distance.
  12. Evgen_Vasilich
    Evgen_Vasilich 21 October 2014 16: 31
    +2
    It is necessary to raise the question of placing "Topol - M" on the territory of Cuba and Nicaragua!
    put in the same place a couple of radars of the warning system and FSE (they will immediately tear the first steps of their transmissions)))) ... and let the drummasters abrade ...
    1. Neighbor
      Neighbor 21 October 2014 16: 33
      +2
      And throw unnecessary Kalash into Mexico
    2. Rostovchanin
      Rostovchanin 21 October 2014 18: 33
      +3
      It is necessary to raise the question of placing "Topol - M" on the territory of Cuba and Nicaragua!

      Poplar is an ICBM - intercontinental, not inter-island
  13. Vadim12
    Vadim12 21 October 2014 16: 32
    +6
    Crimea is already Russia. Late yapping. Shoigu has already said there is nothing more to add. soldier
  14. Valentine77 64
    Valentine77 64 21 October 2014 16: 32
    +4
    Which bases are we approaching?
    (Top cynicism against the backdrop of DEZA from the Swedish army and German intelligence)
  15. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 21 October 2014 16: 32
    +8
    "This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region."
    Ah, Russia is already "on the threshold of NATO"! Your boss said so. Guys! You, at least agree with the previous documents of your thoughts!
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 24 October 2014 00: 46
      +3
      Quote: ALABAY45
      Ah, Russia is already "on the threshold of NATO"!

      How is it? Someone, whose house is behind 33 garden from mine, comes to my doorstep, threatens me through the threshold, and when I send it to the address (let me say thank you for not beating), it starts to yell that I have approached the doorstep. Paaaazvolte! The threshold is mine! And where is their threshold? In Poland? In the Czech Republic? In Germany? In Ukraine? In Turkey? In Iraq? So it is only in American schools that Iraq is bordered by Alabama and therefore it is necessary to wage war on terrorists in it. I still laugh as America told the Americans that electronic intelligence systems deployed in Poland were designed to track Hussein. good We didn’t study at an American school. We know where America is, where Poland, where Iraq and where Russia.
  16. Wedmak
    Wedmak 21 October 2014 16: 32
    +7
    They got insolent at the end ... that is, if a NATO base were located in Crimea, it would be good and correct. Or hostilities would start, as it is now in Donbass, too, not bad ... But as Russia decided to defend its territory, so immediately "close to the NATO bases !!!" Cynicism and rudeness are just off scale!
  17. Krsk
    Krsk 21 October 2014 16: 33
    +1
    sit there in your confusion nonsense worried they drink valerian ...
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  19. Warlock_r
    Warlock_r 21 October 2014 16: 34
    0
    Aha
    Scoot when scared !! :)
  20. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 21 October 2014 16: 35
    0
    This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases ...

    Here is the insidious Russia .. Still, it is approaching the NATO bases ... Perhaps the deficit was brought to the base?
  21. typhoon7
    typhoon7 21 October 2014 16: 35
    +2
    Pot calls the kettle black. They themselves violated all treaties, both written and oral (on not moving NATO eastward). They think that Russia will forever look at the chaos that they create in the world and not in the underbelly. Get used to it, this is just the beginning.
  22. aleks 62
    aleks 62 21 October 2014 16: 36
    +2
    ...... Since when did the Tu-22M3 become a strategic bomber ?????
    1. svp67
      svp67 21 October 2014 16: 41
      +7
      Quote: aleks 62
      ..... Since when did the Tu-22M3 become a strategic bomber ?????
      Well, and he is not tactical. At one time it was called "Euro-strategic", the main thing is that this aircraft allows you to hit targets in the deep (strategic) rear of the enemy. And it's high time to return to them the air refueling system, at least for internal use, for flights from East to West, from South to North and back ...
      1. aleks 62
        aleks 62 21 October 2014 16: 55
        +4
        ..... At one time, the Tu-22M2,3 was created just like a naval aviation aircraft under the X-22 missile (3 pieces) ..... Never was a strategist ..... The range at one gas station at a subsonic of 2600 km .. ... True, it was equipped with a refueling bar. Although I did not really use it ... hi
        1. VAF
          VAF 21 October 2014 17: 12
          +9
          Quote: aleks 62
          At one time, the Tu-22M2,3 was created just like a naval aviation aircraft under the X-22 missile (3 pieces)


          Correct, +! wink
          1. The plane was created as a further advancement of 105, i.e. a long-range missile carrier for the destruction of naval targets (AUG and AUS), including missiles with a naval warhead system, as well as important strategic fortified objects and infrastructure facilities on a ground theater, so the priority is precisely what is not true for Naval Aviation.
          2.3 missiles is only in the transport version soldier Standard two or one soldier

          Quote: aleks 62
          . Range at one gas station at a subsonic of 2600 km.


          Correct ... not Range, but Tactical radius, but you have it (at a certain BC weight and at a certain flight mode and profile bully ).
          Do not say so. "On one zaprake and on subsonic" - more correctly with Full refueling and Cruising soldier

          Quote: aleks 62
          . The truth was equipped with a refueling bar. Although I didn’t really use it.


          Really used testers soldier When there were deuces with a bar, they flew to imitate contact.
          1. aleks 62
            aleks 62 21 October 2014 18: 07
            0
            ..... All this is very interesting !!!!! You can read the history of its creation if you google .... The main thing is that at that time an airplane was needed - the killer of aircraft carriers .... Tupolev really wanted to shove his trash .... After all, the competitor was a worthy T-10 Sukhoi !!!! (the range is about 6 thousand km, - at one gas station !!!, the speed is 2M (cruising throughout the entire flight !!!), and the armament was appropriate ..... Moreover, it passed all the tests and the army really liked it (the series was supposed 250 pieces) .... Tupolev very much asked Sukhoi to give him the development of such an aircraft .... As a result, using the entrance to the top, he allegedly pushed through the modernization of the Tu-22 (in fact, all of them) created a new aircraft that had the same index ..... In general, he created a freak - do not fly, do not bomb ... The plane, like almost all Tupolev products, is rubbish, and the service is the same (a lot of "dog lovers" (whoever touched it, he will understand) ... I already wrote about the barbell ... There were 3 missiles (2 under the wing, 1 on the beam under the bomb bay) - the same X22 ... hi
            1. VAF
              VAF 21 October 2014 20: 43
              +8
              Quote: aleks 62
              . All this is very interesting !!! You can read the history of its creation if you google.


              Respected aleks 62 I have the honor to "report to you" that in 1978 I worked on one "topic" in the 185th Guards Heavy Bombardment Regiment (military unit 13785, Poltava), regiment commander Nikolai Fedorovich Chugunov ("Tyatya"), commander of the 13th Guards Tbad hereal-major Kozlov Lev Vasilievich.
              T-10 (Kebesha index of the Su-27th).

              Quote: aleks 62
              ..In general, he created a freak - do not fly, do not bomb ... The plane, like almost all Tupolev products, is rubbish, and the service is the same (a lot of "dog lovers" (whoever touched it, he will understand)


              "Captured" even Nulevka (that is, with an Orbit of 9,5), but even she..2 flew and bombed ", and when the next ones went to 12,5 and then the full ones at 16,5, there was a" song "

              So what about who touched him .. that is directly to me (about "dog lovers for the first time I hear such an expression, although I also talked with technicians and engineers).

              You can hang anything you want ... read the ILE and IBPR Kh-22N / MA and M / MA on a Tu-22M3 airplane (I don’t even speak about 2-ku)!
              A missile under its belly was hung in a bomb-gate, but not entirely but in a half-sunken state, for this purpose in the continuation of the bomb-bay there were special niches for the head and tail of the rocket and additional wings were provided!

              So .. dear or it is necessary to be more modest somehow .. "send" to Google, for example, or just be more careful, otherwise .. "you can run into" .. by inaccuracy and ignorance!
              Yours faithfully, soldier
              1. aleks 62
                aleks 62 22 October 2014 09: 40
                0
                ...... I am very flattered by your attention ..... Sorry for the slip of the tongue - instead of the T-10 you should understand the T-100 ..... I willingly believe that you "worked" in Poltava .... Yes .. .There was a large airfield and the equipment was appropriate .... About the rocket in the bomb bay is not important - I did not upload personal photos to you with all the details of the suspension (why ????) .... About the initial sharpening of the aircraft for sea purposes to argue I will not - it's useless with you .... I can say that in the Crimea there was a division of naval aviation at one time, armed with these particular aircraft ..... (3 airfields) .... And about what can be suspended, what You are right ..... In Vietnam, bombs were also hung on the An-2 (!!!!!), but this does not mean that it was specially tailored for such purposes .... (there is a rare photo " from there "in the collection ...) ..... hi
        2. svp67
          svp67 21 October 2014 17: 21
          0
          You contradict yourself.
          Quote: aleks 62
          Never been a strategist
          and right there
          Quote: aleks 62
          True equipped with a refueling bar
          which already implies an increase in range, but most importantly, he was able to carry missile weapons capable of delivering attacks on the enemy without entering the air defense zones ...
          1. aleks 62
            aleks 62 21 October 2014 18: 11
            +1
            ...... Strategic - involves actions in the strategic depths of the enemy, but with a range of 2600 km (fuel for 3,5 hours of flight on a sound) it is not a strategist, but rather an operative .... Here is the Tu-95, for example, is a strategist. ..How much does it hang in the air and at what range without refueling can ????
            1. VAF
              VAF 21 October 2014 21: 36
              +2
              Quote: aleks 62
              .Strategic - involves actions in the strategic depths of the enemy,


              You confuse intercontinentality and strategy wink Remember Tactics ... from what line does strategic defense begin? wink

              Quote: aleks 62
              and with a range of 2600 km (fuel for 3,5 hours of flight on a subsonic basis)


              Again -25 -... wrote the same below! request Where did you get these "tsmfirki"?
              If with a variable profile, then this is MUCH (there is a little less), and if on the ceilings. Yes in cruising mode, then it is very SMALL! soldier
              At the same time, you do not write that for "your numbers" you carry 24 tons of BC soldier
              One rocket weighs 6 tons, so take away from 24 and get another 18 tons of fuel, for another 2 hours 20 minutes of flight at a speed of 900 km / h .. well, and how much is your Range then? wassat
          2. VAF
            VAF 21 October 2014 20: 56
            +3
            Quote: svp67
            which already implies an increase in range, but most importantly, he was able to carry missile weapons capable of delivering attacks on the enemy without entering the air defense zones ...


            Namesake, you are right and wrong .. wrong in that he was not "capable", but is capable even now wink
            But about not entering the anti-aircraft defense zones wink but what about the fact that the objects of attack from the front line or combat contact are practically at the limit of the radius of action and the flight will take place over enemy territory?
            After all, air defense systems will be suppressed only in the corridors of passage and breakthrough .. maximum to the operational-tactical depth and that's it .... continue to fly pigeons .. fly wink
            And what about the enemy’s air defense interception area? wink Air defense zones or WHERE? wassat

            And even without air defense fighters, if with the 22nd missile .... yes from a low altitude (after all, you need at least some stealth to "portray", then ... the launch range just "fits" into the range of the SAM wink
            You can, of course, "flop" the PSI's rocket with the "SETSbashka" .. then yes .. we will not get into the zone, but the FIGHTERS will not go anywhere.
            There will be a 32nd rocket .. there will be another conversation wink
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 21 October 2014 17: 08
        0
        Let them practice. good
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 21 October 2014 17: 59
      +2
      Quote: aleks 62
      Since when did the Tu-22M3 become a strategic bomber ?????

      And it was designed like that. Tu-22M3 - a long-range supersonic missile bomber. Flight range 6000 km.
      1. VAF
        VAF 21 October 2014 22: 03
        +7
        Quote: Алексей_К
        And it was designed like this


        They wanted to make him like that .. but it turned out in the end .. LESS.
        Do not confuse the RANGE (there is a maximum. And there is a practical) and so you have .. PRACTICAL, ie. up to the stop on the ceilings until the engines get up (this range is "obtained" only in an imperial way).
        And the Maximum .... the remainder of the landing is needed at least 5 tons (but this is cherevato, since it may not be enough to go anywhere else) according to the standard, as a rule, 8-10 tons remainder!) And it is not very pleasant to steer. . the nose jumps up on the "bumps", and it can sit on the "ass" when the crew leaves (it is already useless to pump, to somehow center it)
        Well, we consider that 5 tons, refueling 52 tons (we take an average weight of 70 tons), subtracting the remainder, we get 47 tons of net "consumption", consumption on ceilings is standard 7 tons / hour, with a "tricky angle of attack" and wing (not 30 and somewhere around 37-43 grams, depending on the weight, you can achieve 6 tons / hour) I knew the guys who did 5,4 good (but this is constant control and "jerking off") but here it is like in a film .. "you want to live and not like that .. you will get overwhelmed" soldier
        But we take normal data and "not a normal 5-ton residue", that is, 47 tons and 7 tons per hour.
        The speed is 900, in theory we get your 6000 km, but ... right there, to the normal balance, another 3 tons, and this is minus 400 km, in the end it will already be 5400, plus the departure pattern for another 100 km, already 5300, plus the wind (i.e. (i.e., navigation reserve-correction) it's good that if it is in the tail and you are rolling downhill, and if on the contrary, then back to the West, so that at least another 300 km away, or maybe even more .... well ... and the most interesting thing .. because we flew like a .. "walk", ie. without everything.
        You know about bombs. The rocket is full-weight 6 tons, "almost" an hour of flight. Another 800-900 km, so what's left of your range? wink
        REALITY recourse
        I beg your pardon, for a long "educational program", +! With respect, soldier
        1. DRA-88
          DRA-88 21 October 2014 22: 11
          +5
          Quote: vaf
          I beg your pardon, for a long "educational program", +! With respect,

          Sergey, thanks for the details! I really read ... I wanted you to educate us more often !!!
          Sincerely hi
    3. saksan
      saksan 21 October 2014 21: 22
      +2
      With refueling over the Atlantic.
      1. ARS56
        ARS56 22 October 2014 17: 41
        +1
        With refueling, the TU22M3 is equated to a strategist by agreement, because all refueling rods are removed, and the TU22M3 is just a distant bomber.
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  23. shuric-jmuric
    shuric-jmuric 21 October 2014 16: 36
    +1
    in every barrel this USA plug
    you deal with your blacks, otherwise you have opened a hunt for them like mad dogs
    and we ourselves will figure out what and where to stir
  24. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 21 October 2014 16: 36
    +1
    Tu-22M3 and Iskander missile systems

    Tu-22M4
    Start of development in 1983 year.
    Modernization with the installation of new NK-32 engines and with the change of engine air intakes.
    Modernization of avionics by installing a new PNK, the Obzor radar (from Tu-160), the electronic warfare complex.
    Extension of the range of weapons.
    The prototype is on display at the AB Diaghilevo Museum.

    Tu-22M5
    Start of development in 1997 year.
    A modification of the wing contours was made,
    improving local aerodynamics and the quality of external surfaces in order to reduce EPR.
    Extension of the range of weapons.
    Installation of a flight control system at low altitude.
    Modernization of avionics.
    1. FID
      FID 21 October 2014 17: 26
      +3
      There was no modernization of avionics, only a year ago a new Hephaestus PNK was delivered.
  25. Tartar
    Tartar 21 October 2014 16: 37
    0
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Well, colleagues, this is generally prohibitive cynicism! belay

    This is to be expected. At first they were silent about Crimea, but at the right time they are used as a pretext for attacks on Russia. They will try to foment war. P # ndostan will solve the Russian question at all costs.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 21 October 2014 17: 15
      0
      will at all costs solve the Russian question
      I wonder how this time?
  26. alex-cn
    alex-cn 21 October 2014 16: 37
    0
    Yeah, it’s possible to deploy fighters near our borders, but we can’t even have an extra column on our territory? No, guys - who did not have time, he was late ...
  27. fzr1000
    fzr1000 21 October 2014 16: 37
    +1
    "Dirilki cardboard", what else can you say.
  28. P-38
    P-38 21 October 2014 16: 37
    +1
    Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stated that complexes like the Iskander could be located anywhere on the territory of Russia: “Where we want, we put it there!”.

    EXACTLY!!
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 21 October 2014 17: 16
      +5
      And at first I read "Where we want, we will insert there!"
      At first he neighed, and then thought that my version was more substantial.
  29. svp67
    svp67 21 October 2014 16: 38
    +3
    This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.
    The easiest thing for NATO is to remove its bases from this region ....
  30. Eltempo23rus
    Eltempo23rus 21 October 2014 16: 38
    0
    The dog barks, and the caravan goes on.
  31. Alexander
    Alexander 21 October 2014 16: 38
    0
    Where does the data about the R-500 range of 2600km come from?
  32. alexandrovich
    alexandrovich 21 October 2014 16: 38
    +1
    Let them rejoice that the militia in New Russia does not have the latest weapons and aircraft! But I think this is a matter of time! hi
  33. Wiruz
    Wiruz 21 October 2014 16: 39
    +1
    And what, does the R-500 fly by 2,6 tons? Did not know. Ivanov then lied, saying that she did not violate the treaties banning short- and medium-range missiles. Lied. I did everything right good
    1. VAF
      VAF 21 October 2014 17: 17
      +1
      Quote: Wiruz
      And what, does the R-500 fly by 2,6 tons? Did not know


      Gugr in the help, you type Garnet-Rubezh and .. you study, and here also the new engine wink
    2. ARS56
      ARS56 22 October 2014 18: 37
      0
      For sea-based missiles there is no range limitation.
  34. maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 21 October 2014 16: 40
    +4
    but it was not necessary to bring his NATU to our borders! Now do not whine that we did not warn! let the heroe this winter not only be cold and hungry, but also insomnia did not give rest!
  35. Erg
    Erg 21 October 2014 16: 42
    +3
    The snake ball began to stir. This is good. Let them tremble. soldier
  36. sergey261180
    sergey261180 21 October 2014 16: 42
    +3
    According to parliamentarians, such a response step could be "the decision to completely stop all contacts between members of the military alliance and Moscow, as well as the withdrawal of Russian military personnel from NATO bases and facilities." It was also proposed to “prohibit Russia from conducting inspection flights within the framework of the“ open skies ”treaty (allows its participants to fly over each other’s territories in order to comply with existing arms control treaties)”.
    Brother Fox, just don’t throw in the thorn bush !!!
  37. Ober.K
    Ober.K 21 October 2014 16: 44
    +4
    The people say this: "With your fat, you and the musals (that is, in the face)" wassat
    Seriously speaking, Russia is acting quite adequately to the actions that America in the person of NATO allows itself! Thank God those days have passed when Russia shyly averted its eyes and kept silent "in a rag" !!! Today our Motherland occupies a place worthy of its status in the world. The old principle is being revived, we will not allow ourselves to be offended and we will not allow the weak to offend !!! We must expand the circle of countries that we are ready to defend (not necessarily by military means, this is the last argument). In this case, we generally have their sanctions and isolation to the "bulb" !!! "It is easier to beat a herd and daddy ...", and such geeks as adversaries, Yankees and other evil spirits, all the more ... we will master with PEACEFUL, POLITE METHODS !!! That's all!!! hi
  38. zone72
    zone72 21 October 2014 16: 45
    0
    it became scary whether okay not yet in CUBA
  39. NEXUS
    NEXUS 21 October 2014 16: 46
    +5
    Quote: La Hire
    When I say that the Pindos are already "insolent to the brink", I always have to take my words back. Because their insolence has no limit

    this is not arrogance, but the next round of the Cold War, to which the mattress-makers have been persuading Russia for the last 20 years ... this fuss in Congress is actions to approve Russia and its policies at the state level as alien to the interests of America, which means Russia is a threat to everything "to a democratic civilized society" ... that is, for amers and their policies, Russia is a de facto enemy ... then I have a question - WHAT BELONGING RUSSIA SHOULD REPORT TO ITS Opponent WHAT SHE DOES WHERE AND WHEN? A little time will pass and in Cuba the Russian complexes "ANTIMATRASSNIKI" will "grow" (it is not for nothing that Putin and Fidel whispered for 2 hours behind closed doors)
  40. tomcat117
    tomcat117 21 October 2014 16: 48
    +2
    Yes, on this "Aircraft Carrier" of the Black Sea Fleet, TU22Ms land and take off in unlimited quantities, those who did not want to believe will have to!
  41. rockfor
    rockfor 21 October 2014 16: 51
    +5
    Give Crimea? Yes, no problem, give it back. But only after they fulfill the Helsinki Accords. They will return Yugoslavia to its original borders, Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union. Then we will return Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR.
    1. PATTIY
      PATTIY 22 October 2014 16: 12
      0
      Quote: Rockfor
      Give Crimea? Yes, no problem, give it back. But only after they fulfill the Helsinki Accords. They will return Yugoslavia to its original borders, Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union. Then we will return Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR.

      If we are to be buked at all, Germany must return to the original borders of the GDR and the FRG
  42. dimon-media
    dimon-media 21 October 2014 16: 55
    +1
    Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stated that complexes like Iskander could be deployed anywhere in Russia: “Wherever we want, we put it there!”

    However, this statement on the plans of the Russian military in no way affected. As one of the high-ranking interlocutors of the newspaper in the General Staff said, "equipping the peninsula with the latest weapons is currently one of the priority areas."

    We do not need more. These are the right decisions. Let the dogs bark, and we will act in our national interests.
    Shoigu well done.
  43. pahom54
    pahom54 21 October 2014 16: 58
    +4
    ""Placement of nuclear weapons in the sovereign territory of another state without his consent is an insidious and cynical decision, the letter says. - This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.».

    The fact that Crimea is our territory does not cause US doubt. And the fact that the states do not recognize this is for us. How to ...
    YOU (states) can have a military advantage in a region that does not belong to YOU, and we can’t in our own region ???
    Let the teams of "guests" in the Black Sea write their resignation reports, since what has come to Crimea now is far from comparable to flying over one Su-24 ...
  44. Siberian
    Siberian 21 October 2014 16: 59
    +3
    ..... It is interesting if the Russian Duma made a statement that it was sharply concerned about the deployment of nuclear weapons in the state of Texas, which at one time the United States, without any referenda = chopped off = from the sovereign state of Mexico or in Guantanamo, part of the territory of Cuba, also annexed by this sovereign state .......... have passed and passed the 90s in which the United States dictated its will to Russia .... now we are on equal footing ... but this is the United States, the world gendarme like .... But there’s nothing to do, besides how to start respecting our country and its people .............
  45. Gray 43
    Gray 43 21 October 2014 17: 02
    +1
    If we start to move something, then immediately the West opens ... the tenth volume of arms limitation treaties, but if they need to bomb something, then anyone
  46. Dmitry 2246
    Dmitry 2246 21 October 2014 17: 04
    +3
    Crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier, reliably covered from the sea and ensuring the destruction of the largest American military base in Europe, located in Kosovo.
    1. VAF
      VAF 21 October 2014 17: 25
      +5
      Quote: Dmitry 2246
      Crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier, reliably covered from the sea and providing


      Understand the blocking of the Bosphorus, constant control over the AUG and AUS in the Adriatic and the Mediterranean, and about, "certain conditions" the possibility of striking them in these areas soldier
  47. Funnels
    Funnels 21 October 2014 17: 16
    +3
    Well, finally, otherwise they haven’t "gotten away" for a long time. Well, what about"Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its consent is an insidious and cynical decision."who would be indignant, especially since it is OUR LAND. So, tremble the bastards!
    1. PATTIY
      PATTIY 22 October 2014 12: 43
      0
      Quote: Funnels
      This is OUR LAND.

      And has always been ours.
      Pissing trembles only before the sensation of cold steel at the temple.
  48. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 21 October 2014 17: 24
    +1
    We’ll block them flying to Afghanistan laughing
  49. Thomas Neveru
    Thomas Neveru 21 October 2014 17: 27
    +2
    They themselves were in the zone of defeat. They came very close and we are accused ...
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