US Congress is concerned about the rearmament of the Crimea

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US congressmen accused the Kremlin of wanting to place nuclear carriers on the Crimean Peninsula weaponssuch as strategic bombers Tu-22М3 and Iskander missile systems, the newspaper reports Kommersant.



Members of Congress reported on Moscow’s plans to President Obama. The letter was signed by the head of the Armed Services Committee, Howard McCone, and a number of his colleagues.

The parliamentarians say that “in early August, the Russian authorities decided to transfer Tu-22М3 bombers and Iskander-M complexes to the Crimea, which could in the future strike with the P-500 high-precision cruise missiles, including nuclear warheads.”

The latter circumstance, according to congressmen, “is a direct violation of the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Small-Range Missiles, signed by the USSR in 1987 year, since the range of this missile’s flight is 2600 km (according to the agreement - from 500 to 5500 km).

“Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its consent is a cunning and cynical decision,” the letter says. “This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.”

Lawmakers have demanded that Obama report to Congress in the near future on possible retaliatory measures that Washington may take.

According to parliamentarians, such a response step could be "the decision to completely stop all contacts between members of the military alliance and Moscow, as well as the withdrawal of Russian military personnel from NATO bases and facilities." It was also proposed to “prohibit Russia from conducting inspection flights within the framework of the“ open skies ”treaty (allows its participants to fly over each other’s territories in order to comply with existing arms control treaties)”.

Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stated that complexes like the Iskander could be located anywhere on the territory of Russia: “Where we want, we put it there!”.

More specifically, the need for a full-fledged grouping of troops on the Crimean Peninsula was discussed at the September panel of the Ministry of Defense. Shoigu attributed this to the “sharply exacerbated situation in Ukraine and the military presence of foreigners in the immediate vicinity of Russia's borders.” NATO responded instantly, saying that the expansion of the Russian military presence in Crimea would lead to increased tensions in Europe. ”

However, this statement on the plans of the Russian military in no way affected. As one of the high-ranking interlocutors of the newspaper in the General Staff said, "equipping the peninsula with the latest weapons is currently one of the priority areas."
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    1. +139
      21 October 2014 16: 27
      “Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its consent is a cunning and cynical decision,” the letter says. “This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.”

      Well, colleagues, this is generally prohibitive cynicism! belay
      1. +67
        21 October 2014 16: 34

        When on the way to Red Square flies over the roofs (we can clearly see from the balcony), different planes cause different sensations.

        Tu-95 - horror, the feeling of approaching the Apocalypse, Tu-22, Tu-160 - delight and admiration

        The rest is pride


        I want to say, from here and the screams of Congress, have seen enough of these planes ...
        1. +55
          21 October 2014 16: 51
          Russia is also against NATO troops in the Baltic states. Well, that’s all the same, they’re placing it. We want to install Crimea, Russia, and we don’t want to.
          1. +45
            21 October 2014 16: 56
            “Wherever we want, we put it there!”
            Gold words.
            1. +38
              21 October 2014 17: 27
              Quote: b0bi
              “Wherever we want, we put it there!”


              We are also concerned about the deployment of air defense systems and strike delivery vehicles with nuclear warheads in Alaska and in Europe. Remove them from there and there will be no precedent. In the meantime, do not meddle in our soup with your own hands. bully
              1. +8
                22 October 2014 05: 16
                [quote = Lelek] We are also worried about the deployment of air defense systems and strike delivery vehicles

                well, and besides, it allows you to cover Moldova with Transnistria: to neutralize the Romanians, Germans and Albanians .....
                1. +1
                  22 October 2014 15: 22
                  Why worry about Moldova if it joined the EU, and then it becomes a member of NATO
                  1. +1
                    22 October 2014 17: 02
                    Moldova can only hold membership can in hands with subsequent integration ...
                2. 0
                  23 October 2014 11: 29
                  [quote = gurt] [quote = Lelek] We are also worried about the deployment of air defense systems and strike delivery vehicles

                  Well, in addition, it allows you to cover Moldova with Transnistria: to neutralize the Romanians, Germans and Albanians ..... [/ quote]
                  Rather, the base in Kosovo, Albania is so-so this or that.
            2. +11
              21 October 2014 17: 33
              Actually, as I remember, he said: "Our Iskanders, wherever we want, are put there!"
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            3. +1
              23 October 2014 11: 26
              Quote: b0bi
              “Wherever we want, we put it there!”
              Gold words.

              Cuba is next in line. recourse
            4. PEGASUS
              +2
              23 October 2014 13: 07
              And soon it will be- where we want to go there and INSERT
            5. +1
              23 October 2014 13: 21
              still "wherever we want, we will shoot there!"))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) it would have caused massive heart attacks in the White House and mass desertions in the army of the "Kingdom of Obossanogomatras!"
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          3. +10
            21 October 2014 18: 33
            This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region. "

            The fact that these NATO bases have long approached the borders of Russia is somehow bashfully silent.
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          5. 0
            23 October 2014 20: 15
            The growing military presence in Crimea contributes to the escalation of tension in Europe - it does not contribute at all, rather it will cool, some, hot heads!
        2. +1
          22 October 2014 12: 08
          Quote: bulvas
          When on the way to Red Square flies over the roofs (we can clearly see from the balcony), different planes cause different sensations.

          Tu-95 - horror, the feeling of approaching the Apocalypse, Tu-22, Tu-160 - delight and admiration

          The rest is pride


          I want to say, from here and the screams of Congress, have seen enough of these planes ...


          Duc like their congress is located in Washington, and not in the Kremlin ?!
        3. smern1974
          0
          23 October 2014 00: 12
          the idea of ​​transferring their ambassadors to forever, for example on the EEEEEEEE ladles to hell
      2. +48
        21 October 2014 16: 35
        Sorry not on topic. Good news.

        In the LPR announced the unification of the forces of the LPR army, Mozgovoy and Kozitsyn! Yes

        Now it’s Donetsk’s turn, enough of the Makhnovism.
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      3. +49
        21 October 2014 16: 36
        Quote: Vladimirets
        transcendental cynicism!


        ENEMY REQUIRED

        A mature, North American Superpower is looking for a hostile country to participate in the arms race, conflicts in third world countries and general confrontation. It should be threatening enough to convince us to provide funding. Preference will be given to those with a nuclear arsenal, proposals from
        come close to creating nuclear weapons. Land, any area.

        Pentagon, Washington, DC, USA
        1. +6
          21 October 2014 16: 42
          Worried they see, just tremble
          1. +9
            21 October 2014 16: 54
            This hackneyed record will play for a long time? Previously, the song was called The Soviet Threat. Sick !!! It’s time to get the gramophone TURNING out from Phasington.
          2. avg
            +21
            21 October 2014 17: 11
            And why were the mattresses excited? Just mastering the peninsula, the Tu-22M3 pilots train in flights over the sea, prepare for the flight to the island. For example, to Cuba.
            1. +13
              21 October 2014 17: 30
              Quote: avg
              And why were the mattresses excited?



              Just granddaughters for lunch fly to their grandmothers, because love them very much. bully
            2. +8
              21 October 2014 21: 04
              Crimea sailed home. 22e also return to where they used to be. In the Guards.
              1. +3
                22 October 2014 16: 27
                soon to return to Belarus where they used to stand, how many cries will be
            3. +1
              22 October 2014 17: 07
              Quote: avg
              And why were the mattresses worried

              Duc their sailors in the troughs diving there cannot keep watch, and there are not enough latvines. paper ends after the Bosphorus.
          3. +14
            21 October 2014 17: 50
            Quote: herruvim
            Worried they see, just tremble
            The fact that the mattresses promised Russia and did not fulfill, we also remember. There is no faith in you. Worry further and more often, stock up on diapers and bomb shelters. You will get the answer for expanding NATO eastward, and for deploying a missile defense system near the borders of Russia, and for starting a war in Ukraine, and for interfering in the affairs of other states. Russia has its own interests. REMEMBER THIS.
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        2. +1
          21 October 2014 22: 52
          Quote: APES
          Quote: Vladimirets
          transcendental cynicism!


          ENEMY REQUIRED

          A mature, North American Superpower is looking for a hostile country to participate in the arms race, conflicts in third world countries and general confrontation. It should be threatening enough to convince us to provide funding. Preference will be given to those with a nuclear arsenal, proposals from
          come close to creating nuclear weapons. Land, any area.

          Pentagon, Washington, DC, USA

          wahahahahhhhh laughing
        3. smern1974
          +1
          23 October 2014 00: 18
          drum on the neck and flag in anal and marching to hell
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      5. +7
        21 October 2014 16: 45
        Hmm ... Well, they said: "Where we want there and put ... !!!"
      6. +9
        21 October 2014 16: 47
        The US Congress is concerned about the rearmament of the Crimea. ""
        From October 21 to October 30, 2014, two multinational exercises of the Air Force are being held on the territory of Italy to work out the entire range of activities with nuclear weapons of the US armed forces "exercise Steadfast Noon-STRIKEVAL 2014"
        Location - Italy and the northern and central part of the Adriatic
        1. +36
          21 October 2014 16: 59
          Quote: 222222
          The US Congress was concerned about the rearmament of Crimea.

          Still not to worry - after all, the deployment of Tu - 22 m3 and Iskander in Crimea nullifies the entire missile defense system in Europe. Hence the screeching. Money, then bye - bye!
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +18
            21 October 2014 17: 20
            Quote: enot73
            - after all, the deployment of Tu-22 m3 and Iskander missiles in Crimea nullifies the entire missile defense system in Europe.


            From the territory of Belarus, it is much closer and the opportunity .. "to get" .. away wink

            A photo of the dill three ... not comme il faut negative
          2. FID
            +16
            21 October 2014 17: 22
            Sorry, but you posted an unsuccessful photo ... A trident on a keel ... Probably an old photo.
            1. +18
              21 October 2014 17: 45
              If the Germans drew crosses on our tanks captured by them, so they can’t be laid out photos ?! Dill did not produce this, they gave them out of honesty, with friendly intentions, because the products are ours. Maybe this keel was lit up at a repair plant. And how many Tu-160's they cut b ... and for the sake of mattresses.
            2. +13
              21 October 2014 23: 05
              Quote: vaf
              From the territory of Belarus, it is much closer and the opportunity .. "to get" .. away

              A photo of the dill three ... not comme il faut

              Quote: SSI
              Sorry, but you posted an unsuccessful photo ... A trident on a keel ... Probably an old photo.
              I can only apologize for the photo - I have not considered the demand, and it’s small. So this is just an annoying misunderstanding. And as for Belarus, I can say that missile defense elements will also be in the Czech Republic and Romania, so that the Tu - 22 M3 in the Crimea will not be in the way. That's better ? good
              1. +2
                22 October 2014 06: 55
                A handsome man takes off (air intakes are open). It is necessary to restore airfields and military camps in the North, the Far East and Kola.
                1. VAF
                  VAF
                  +2
                  22 October 2014 14: 15
                  Quote: Horn
                  Handsome man takes off


                  A handsome man lands on a glide path, on take-off, after a break I give the command immediately to the chassis. The flaps. Headlights to remove (the exception is take-off with the maximum take-off weight) soldier

                  Quote: Horn
                  (air intakes open)


                  How's that? belay Maybe you saw the position of the wedge of the OT and the bypass tape? wassat
                2. +1
                  23 October 2014 16: 03
                  And to restore the continuous radar field over the country so that all scum would not fly.
              2. FID
                +4
                22 October 2014 10: 57
                Quote: enot73
                That's better ?

                Much!!! good
              3. Alex_Popovson
                +1
                23 October 2014 10: 02
                There will be no missile defense in the Czech Republic. They muddy a whole movement there. Type of missile defense is not needed, Kosovo-Serbia and all that. It’s just that we don’t really pay attention to it, and there the state is at all aches.
          3. 0
            21 October 2014 17: 30
            By the way, according to one of the sites in the exercises, 3F-16 of the Polish Air Force takes part .. However ...
            ..exercise Steadfast Noon 20-10/24-10 Ghedi,
            3x F-16 PolAF
            3x F-16 TuAF 191Filo
        2. +3
          21 October 2014 17: 37
          Avb Gedi Torre Italy
          http://fas.org/blogs/security/2014/06/ghedi/
      7. Denis fj
        +48
        21 October 2014 16: 51
        It seems that Stalin also said: "If our enemies scold us, then we are doing everything right."
      8. +19
        21 October 2014 16: 52
        “It is a direct violation of the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Short Range Missiles, signed by the USSR in 1987, since the flight range of this missile is 2600 km (from the agreement, from 500 to 5500 km).
        And where did we break that? "Iskander" seems to be flying 50-500 km where did they see the violation ????
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      10. +4
        21 October 2014 16: 58
        Onion stinks? Get away, it won’t stink!
        Quote: Vladimirets
        “Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its consent is a cunning and cynical decision,” the letter says. “This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.”

        Well, colleagues, this is generally prohibitive cynicism! belay
        1. +5
          21 October 2014 17: 08
          Well, how do you want? Announced to the whole world that Russia has moved to NATO, so we have moved, Russia cannot allow that its "partners" would be called idle talk. laughing
          1. +4
            21 October 2014 17: 48
            They shouted that the Russians had landed in Georgia! Well, at least Georgia was found-Georgia in Amerovsky.
      11. Nicholas
        +12
        21 October 2014 17: 25
        The entire personnel of military unit 26292 has been preoccupied since November 1979 with placing them on)))) HOKKAIDO !!!! American B-52.
      12. +2
        21 October 2014 17: 26
        Paranoia completely brainwashed American politicians.
        1. +2
          22 October 2014 05: 26
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Paranoia completely brainwashed American politicians.

          .... everything is not so guys; it's just an excuse to squeeze a few tens of blades from the military budget, scare the people and drive them away into debt.
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      14. raccoon
        +2
        21 October 2014 17: 34
        A "FUCK"
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      16. +2
        21 October 2014 17: 50
        Not cynicism ... sorry, transcendent idiocy
      17. +3
        21 October 2014 18: 06
        Absolutely! Vladimir. Strength rules, there is no international law and we must proceed from these realities. And do not entertain yourself with illusions as in the new thinking)))
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      19. +3
        21 October 2014 18: 22
        US Congress worried about rearmament of Crimea ... ???

        I don’t understand the meaning of the title of the article, why the hell are they Indians or something, and the Russian army should rearm the Crimea with slingshots and bows ...
        1. +2
          22 October 2014 10: 33
          Quote: Bone
          what are we damn, according to their concepts, Indians or something

          According to their concepts, yes, and they will do with us, give them free rein, exactly the same. You can’t relax, the enemy must be sure that in which case he will rake so that he can no longer rise. am
      20. +10
        21 October 2014 19: 33
        What a squeal? It seems that nothing has been imported to the KUBU))
      21. 225chay
        +3
        21 October 2014 20: 38
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without his consent is an insidious and cynical decision, the letter says. “This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.”


        We still did not have enough to listen to this blatant Saxon rot ...
      22. +10
        22 October 2014 00: 27
        It’s all in the same spirit that it was not NATO that approached the borders of Russia, but the shameless Russia to blame for everything, it was dangerous and insidious closer to the military alliance !?
        Russia has stood, and will stand and will stand, no matter how insidious Western Russophobes try to teach it, the main thing is that we have less in the power of all half-witted politicians, like Gorbachev, Yeltsin and his hedgehog, and more real statesmen like Peter 1, there are fewer Serdyuk and Vasilyevs of any kind and all sorts of "podlucky" who siphon off state funds, including for defense, and more, within the limits of the necessary, the most modern systems of Russian weapons!
        Americans and their Western allies are doing what they want, for example, on missile defense in Europe near our borders, and at the same time they are hypocrites that this is not against Russia and that we will appeal to their conscience so that they do not! ??
        Gentlemen-Westerners with their sanctions threw off the mask-tricks of their peace, only an unwise person does not understand the goals of their constant and steady coverage of our borders with their military bases!
        If you want peace, prepare for war, this terrible truth in its own way is as relevant today as never before, the United States openly placed Russia in second place after the IS as its enemy, the US Secretary of Defense calls on the armed forces to be ready to confront the Russian armed forces, etc. etc..!!!!
        And at the same time we are accused of all mortal sins, having arrogated to ourselves the right to indicate how and what of our weapons to place on our territory! Vysotsky has a song about Kanatchikova’s dacha and the striking similarity of American obscurantists with its individual mentally and manic-sick inhabitants undoubtedly requires adequate protection from them!
        And the possibility of burning up in the flames of the nuclear weapons of our Iskander and not only today is the only way to stop the aggressive intentions of the American military against Russia, therefore, to put them where and how much is needed.
      23. +4
        22 October 2014 03: 16
        It is possible and simpler: what your dog business!
      24. Sandah
        0
        22 October 2014 03: 21
        "The US Congress was worried about the rearmament of the Crimea" - too much shit
      25. 0
        22 October 2014 09: 44
        No, this is not cynicism - this is idiocy!
      26. +2
        22 October 2014 11: 22
        But not that American nuclear missiles are deployed all over the world and the opinion of the population of those countries where this happened no one asked?
      27. 0
        22 October 2014 13: 19
        But this is not theirs dog thing. We are at home what we want and do !!!! And neh ... report to all monkeys am
      28. +1
        22 October 2014 14: 01
        This is not cynicism, in this case the etymology of this word does not contain the entirety of the assessment of the situation, it is time to introduce a new designation. I suggest, for example, AMERICANISM
      29. 0
        22 October 2014 16: 57
        Quote: Vladimirets
        This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region. "

        and about the benefits, he said tanned very well, well, he just doesn’t know what we have in the production of diapers
      30. +2
        23 October 2014 06: 13
        Crimea is mine !!!
        Nuclear weapons are mine !!!!
        Where I want, there I put !!!
        On its territory !!!
        I won’t ask the mongrels from Nata !!!
        (Russia!) am
        1. +2
          23 October 2014 11: 14
          US congressmen blame Kremlin

          The question itself begs: "So what ?!" feel
      31. +1
        23 October 2014 11: 20
        Quote: Vladimirets
        “Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its consent is a cunning and cynical decision,” the letter says. “This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.”

        Well, colleagues, this is generally prohibitive cynicism! belay

        Well, yes. If you do a favor to a person, he immediately sits on your head. recourse
      32. 0
        23 October 2014 19: 43
        So move the NATO bases. Then Russia will not come close to them.
      33. fedorovith
        0
        23 October 2014 22: 07
        And they have normal around the world. fellow
      34. 0
        24 October 2014 16: 17
        Well, colleagues, this is generally prohibitive cynicism! belay
        Well, in general it is both transcendental cynicism and transcendental insanity, 2in1, do not interfere with one another.
    2. Alf
      +42
      21 October 2014 16: 27
      Where we want, we put it there. And if you get diarrhea from this event, then "the sheriff's problems do not bother the negro."
      1. Viktor Kudinov
        +4
        21 October 2014 16: 53
        You never know what someone does not like. For example, I do not like the presence of NATO in the Baltic states. And what - NATO will listen to me - get out of the way !!? angry
      2. +2
        21 October 2014 18: 02
        So "Bathing" is forbidden, but he swims! Bathing has the meaning of "BAPTISM". From that, Ivan bathed, that is, the "baptist", but if you take it even more ancient, Ancient Rus, then Kupalo = the idol of earthly fruits among the ancient Slavs. At the beginning of the harvest, they brought him a sacrifice from June 23 to June 24, and this is how they united John the Baptist with a pagan idol. On June 23, the memory of Agrippina the Martyr, who was nicknamed after the pagan holiday "Bathing Lady".
        1. +1
          21 October 2014 20: 34
          Quote: shasherin.pavel
          From that and Ivan bathed, that is, "the baptist",

          belay
        2. SSR
          +1
          21 October 2014 22: 46
          Quote: shasherin.pavel
          So "Bathing" is forbidden, but he swims! Bathing has the meaning "Bather".

          Maybe all the same here "bathing" is not entirely appropriate ?! This is a military technique and it doesn't need to "swim" or even swim, it needs to walk, walk on water! Well, you can, for that matter, about the Saints, who bathed and who treated, only one walked on the water.
    3. +7
      21 October 2014 16: 28
      Well, for the sanctions. The dog barks, and the caravan goes on.
      On our territory we set what we want and where we want. Crimea is ours!
    4. Yaroslav83
      +8
      21 October 2014 16: 29
      That's right. Wherever we want, we put it there!
    5. +6
      21 October 2014 16: 29
      "Members of Congress told President Obama about Moscow's plans"
      ... Strange ... And where is the NSA, the CIA and other intelligence services ...?
      1. Alf
        +2
        21 October 2014 16: 32
        Quote: Single
        "Members of Congress told President Obama about Moscow's plans"
        ... Strange ... And where is the NSA, the CIA and other intelligence services ...?

        The holiday season has begun.
        1. 0
          21 October 2014 16: 47
          Quote: Alf
          Quote: Single
          "Members of Congress told President Obama about Moscow's plans"
          ... Strange ... And where is the NSA, the CIA and other intelligence services ...?

          The holiday season has begun.

          Want to ride to the Crimea to verify this information?
      2. +1
        21 October 2014 16: 36
        where, where on Facebook, they haven’t written about it yet.
      3. 0
        21 October 2014 16: 43
        Looks like they didn’t dig anything in social networks.
      4. 0
        21 October 2014 18: 05
        So CIA agents do not read the Internet, unlike members of Congress and Pisaki!
      5. +1
        22 October 2014 10: 39
        Quote: Single
        "Members of Congress told President Obama about Moscow's plans"

        It’s strange that he didn’t learn about it from his facebook or from Twitter. laughing
    6. +2
      21 October 2014 16: 29
      Pinduossoss completely insolent. Something sluggish reaction of Russia to this, you can’t get away with it
    7. +7
      21 October 2014 16: 29
      in my apartment I want a refrigerator wherever I put it there.
      Our land and NEX tell us angry
      Would put in Cuba ...
      1. +2
        21 October 2014 16: 48
        And what about Cuba? Cuba is Russian land.
        1. +5
          21 October 2014 17: 26
          Quote: mch1950
          And what about Cuba? Cuba is Russian land.

          and Fedya Kostrov - our resident! laughing
    8. +23
      21 October 2014 16: 30
      Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stated that complexes like the Iskander could be located anywhere on the territory of Russia: “Where we want, we put it there!”.
      1. Denis fj
        +5
        21 October 2014 16: 46
        So then it is.
        But we put on our territory. And the USA is all over the world.
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    9. +3
      21 October 2014 16: 30
      US congressmen accused the Kremlin of wanting to deploy nuclear weapons carriers such as the Tu-22M3 strategic bombers and Iskander missile systems on the Crimean peninsula


      Well, we decided to place it and decided, why this is so, not in Iowa and not in Nebraska.
    10. +10
      21 October 2014 16: 30
      When I say that the Pindos are already "insolent to the brink", I always have to take my words back. Because there is no limit to their impudence.
      1. +1
        22 October 2014 22: 16
        Quote: La Hire
        When I say that the Pindos are already "insolent to the brink", I always have to take my words back. Because there is no limit to their impudence.


        At first it seemed to everyone that there was nowhere below, and then they broke through the bottom ... request
    11. +11
      21 October 2014 16: 31
      Russians are disturbed and even somehow nervous about the actions of NATO near the borders of Russia. And if someone does not like what Russia is doing in its territory
      This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region. "
      Then let him move to a safe distance.
    12. +2
      21 October 2014 16: 31
      It is necessary to raise the question of placing "Topol - M" on the territory of Cuba and Nicaragua!
      put in the same place a couple of radars of the warning system and FSE (they will immediately tear the first steps of their transmissions)))) ... and let the drummasters abrade ...
      1. +2
        21 October 2014 16: 33
        And throw unnecessary Kalash into Mexico
      2. +3
        21 October 2014 18: 33
        It is necessary to raise the question of placing "Topol - M" on the territory of Cuba and Nicaragua!

        Poplar is an ICBM - intercontinental, not inter-island
    13. +6
      21 October 2014 16: 32
      Crimea is already Russia. Late yapping. Shoigu has already said there is nothing more to add. soldier
    14. Valentine77 64
      +4
      21 October 2014 16: 32
      Which bases are we approaching?
      (Top cynicism against the backdrop of DEZA from the Swedish army and German intelligence)
    15. +8
      21 October 2014 16: 32
      "This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region."
      Ah, Russia is already "on the threshold of NATO"! Your boss said so. Guys! You, at least agree with the previous documents of your thoughts!
      1. +3
        24 October 2014 00: 46
        Quote: ALABAY45
        Ah, Russia is already "on the threshold of NATO"!

        How is it? Someone, whose house is behind 33 garden from mine, comes to my doorstep, threatens me through the threshold, and when I send it to the address (let me say thank you for not beating), it starts to yell that I have approached the doorstep. Paaaazvolte! The threshold is mine! And where is their threshold? In Poland? In the Czech Republic? In Germany? In Ukraine? In Turkey? In Iraq? So it is only in American schools that Iraq is bordered by Alabama and therefore it is necessary to wage war on terrorists in it. I still laugh as America told the Americans that electronic intelligence systems deployed in Poland were designed to track Hussein. good We didn’t study at an American school. We know where America is, where Poland, where Iraq and where Russia.
    16. +7
      21 October 2014 16: 32
      They got insolent at the end ... that is, if a NATO base were located in Crimea, it would be good and correct. Or hostilities would start, as it is now in Donbass, too, not bad ... But as Russia decided to defend its territory, so immediately "close to the NATO bases !!!" Cynicism and rudeness are just off scale!
    17. +1
      21 October 2014 16: 33
      sit there in your confusion nonsense worried they drink valerian ...
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    19. 0
      21 October 2014 16: 34
      Aha
      Scoot when scared !! :)
    20. 0
      21 October 2014 16: 35
      This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases ...

      Here is the insidious Russia .. Still, it is approaching the NATO bases ... Perhaps the deficit was brought to the base?
    21. typhoon7
      +2
      21 October 2014 16: 35
      Pot calls the kettle black. They themselves violated all treaties, both written and oral (on not moving NATO eastward). They think that Russia will forever look at the chaos that they create in the world and not in the underbelly. Get used to it, this is just the beginning.
    22. +2
      21 October 2014 16: 36
      ...... Since when did the Tu-22M3 become a strategic bomber ?????
      1. +7
        21 October 2014 16: 41
        Quote: aleks 62
        ..... Since when did the Tu-22M3 become a strategic bomber ?????
        Well, and he is not tactical. At one time it was called "Euro-strategic", the main thing is that this aircraft allows you to hit targets in the deep (strategic) rear of the enemy. And it's high time to return to them the air refueling system, at least for internal use, for flights from East to West, from South to North and back ...
        1. +4
          21 October 2014 16: 55
          ..... At one time, the Tu-22M2,3 was created just like a naval aviation aircraft under the X-22 missile (3 pieces) ..... Never was a strategist ..... The range at one gas station at a subsonic of 2600 km .. ... True, it was equipped with a refueling bar. Although I did not really use it ... hi
          1. VAF
            VAF
            +9
            21 October 2014 17: 12
            Quote: aleks 62
            At one time, the Tu-22M2,3 was created just like a naval aviation aircraft under the X-22 missile (3 pieces)


            Correct, +! wink
            1. The plane was created as a further advancement of 105, i.e. a long-range missile carrier for the destruction of naval targets (AUG and AUS), including missiles with a naval warhead system, as well as important strategic fortified objects and infrastructure facilities on a ground theater, so the priority is precisely what is not true for Naval Aviation.
            2.3 missiles is only in the transport version soldier Standard two or one soldier

            Quote: aleks 62
            . Range at one gas station at a subsonic of 2600 km.


            Correct ... not Range, but Tactical radius, but you have it (at a certain BC weight and at a certain flight mode and profile bully ).
            Do not say so. "On one zaprake and on subsonic" - more correctly with Full refueling and Cruising soldier

            Quote: aleks 62
            . The truth was equipped with a refueling bar. Although I didn’t really use it.


            Really used testers soldier When there were deuces with a bar, they flew to imitate contact.
            1. 0
              21 October 2014 18: 07
              ..... All this is very interesting !!!!! You can read the history of its creation if you google .... The main thing is that at that time an airplane was needed - the killer of aircraft carriers .... Tupolev really wanted to shove his trash .... After all, the competitor was a worthy T-10 Sukhoi !!!! (the range is about 6 thousand km, - at one gas station !!!, the speed is 2M (cruising throughout the entire flight !!!), and the armament was appropriate ..... Moreover, it passed all the tests and the army really liked it (the series was supposed 250 pieces) .... Tupolev very much asked Sukhoi to give him the development of such an aircraft .... As a result, using the entrance to the top, he allegedly pushed through the modernization of the Tu-22 (in fact, all of them) created a new aircraft that had the same index ..... In general, he created a freak - do not fly, do not bomb ... The plane, like almost all Tupolev products, is rubbish, and the service is the same (a lot of "dog lovers" (whoever touched it, he will understand) ... I already wrote about the barbell ... There were 3 missiles (2 under the wing, 1 on the beam under the bomb bay) - the same X22 ... hi
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +8
                21 October 2014 20: 43
                Quote: aleks 62
                . All this is very interesting !!! You can read the history of its creation if you google.


                Respected aleks 62 I have the honor to "report to you" that in 1978 I worked on one "topic" in the 185th Guards Heavy Bombardment Regiment (military unit 13785, Poltava), regiment commander Nikolai Fedorovich Chugunov ("Tyatya"), commander of the 13th Guards Tbad hereal-major Kozlov Lev Vasilievich.
                T-10 (Kebesha index of the Su-27th).

                Quote: aleks 62
                ..In general, he created a freak - do not fly, do not bomb ... The plane, like almost all Tupolev products, is rubbish, and the service is the same (a lot of "dog lovers" (whoever touched it, he will understand)


                "Captured" even Nulevka (that is, with an Orbit of 9,5), but even she..2 flew and bombed ", and when the next ones went to 12,5 and then the full ones at 16,5, there was a" song "

                So what about who touched him .. that is directly to me (about "dog lovers for the first time I hear such an expression, although I also talked with technicians and engineers).

                You can hang anything you want ... read the ILE and IBPR Kh-22N / MA and M / MA on a Tu-22M3 airplane (I don’t even speak about 2-ku)!
                A missile under its belly was hung in a bomb-gate, but not entirely but in a half-sunken state, for this purpose in the continuation of the bomb-bay there were special niches for the head and tail of the rocket and additional wings were provided!

                So .. dear or it is necessary to be more modest somehow .. "send" to Google, for example, or just be more careful, otherwise .. "you can run into" .. by inaccuracy and ignorance!
                Best regards, soldier
                1. 0
                  22 October 2014 09: 40
                  ...... I am very flattered by your attention ..... Sorry for the slip of the tongue - instead of the T-10 you should understand the T-100 ..... I willingly believe that you "worked" in Poltava .... Yes .. .There was a large airfield and the equipment was appropriate .... About the rocket in the bomb bay is not important - I did not upload personal photos to you with all the details of the suspension (why ????) .... About the initial sharpening of the aircraft for sea purposes to argue I will not - it's useless with you .... I can say that in the Crimea there was a division of naval aviation at one time, armed with these particular aircraft ..... (3 airfields) .... And about what can be suspended, what You are right ..... In Vietnam, bombs were also hung on the An-2 (!!!!!), but this does not mean that it was specially tailored for such purposes .... (there is a rare photo " from there "in the collection ...) ..... hi
          2. 0
            21 October 2014 17: 21
            You contradict yourself.
            Quote: aleks 62
            Never been a strategist
            and right there
            Quote: aleks 62
            True equipped with a refueling bar
            which already implies an increase in range, but most importantly, he was able to carry missile weapons capable of delivering attacks on the enemy without entering the air defense zones ...
            1. +1
              21 October 2014 18: 11
              ...... Strategic - involves actions in the strategic depths of the enemy, but with a range of 2600 km (fuel for 3,5 hours of flight on a sound) it is not a strategist, but rather an operative .... Here is the Tu-95, for example, is a strategist. ..How much does it hang in the air and at what range without refueling can ????
              1. VAF
                VAF
                +2
                21 October 2014 21: 36
                Quote: aleks 62
                .Strategic - involves actions in the strategic depths of the enemy,


                You confuse intercontinentality and strategy wink Remember Tactics ... from what line does strategic defense begin? wink

                Quote: aleks 62
                and with a range of 2600 km (fuel for 3,5 hours of flight on a subsonic basis)


                Again -25 -... wrote the same below! request Where did you get these "tsmfirki"?
                If with a variable profile, then this is MUCH (there is a little less), and if on the ceilings. Yes in cruising mode, then it is very SMALL! soldier
                At the same time, you do not write that for "your numbers" you carry 24 tons of BC soldier
                One rocket weighs 6 tons, so take away from 24 and get another 18 tons of fuel, for another 2 hours 20 minutes of flight at a speed of 900 km / h .. well, and how much is your Range then? wassat
            2. VAF
              VAF
              +3
              21 October 2014 20: 56
              Quote: svp67
              which already implies an increase in range, but most importantly, he was able to carry missile weapons capable of delivering attacks on the enemy without entering the air defense zones ...


              Namesake, you are right and wrong .. wrong in that he was not "capable", but is capable even now wink
              But about not entering the anti-aircraft defense zones wink but what about the fact that the objects of attack from the front line or combat contact are practically at the limit of the radius of action and the flight will take place over enemy territory?
              After all, air defense systems will be suppressed only in the corridors of passage and breakthrough .. maximum to the operational-tactical depth and that's it .... continue to fly pigeons .. fly wink
              And what about the enemy’s air defense interception area? wink Air defense zones or WHERE? wassat

              And even without air defense fighters, if with the 22nd missile .... yes from a low altitude (after all, you need at least some stealth to "portray", then ... the launch range just "fits" into the range of the SAM wink
              You can, of course, "flop" the PSI's rocket with the "SETSbashka" .. then yes .. we will not get into the zone, but the FIGHTERS will not go anywhere.
              There will be a 32nd rocket .. there will be another conversation wink
        2. 0
          21 October 2014 17: 08
          Let them practice. good
      2. +2
        21 October 2014 17: 59
        Quote: aleks 62
        Since when did the Tu-22M3 become a strategic bomber ?????

        And it was designed like that. Tu-22M3 - a long-range supersonic missile bomber. Flight range 6000 km.
        1. VAF
          VAF
          +7
          21 October 2014 22: 03
          Quote: Алексей_К
          And it was designed like this


          They wanted to make him like that .. but it turned out in the end .. LESS.
          Do not confuse the RANGE (there is a maximum. And there is a practical) and so you have .. PRACTICAL, ie. up to the stop on the ceilings until the engines get up (this range is "obtained" only in an imperial way).
          And the Maximum .... the remainder of the landing is needed at least 5 tons (but this is cherevato, since it may not be enough to go anywhere else) according to the standard, as a rule, 8-10 tons remainder!) And it is not very pleasant to steer. . the nose jumps up on the "bumps", and it can sit on the "ass" when the crew leaves (it is already useless to pump, to somehow center it)
          Well, we consider that 5 tons, refueling 52 tons (we take an average weight of 70 tons), subtracting the remainder, we get 47 tons of net "consumption", consumption on ceilings is standard 7 tons / hour, with a "tricky angle of attack" and wing (not 30 and somewhere around 37-43 grams, depending on the weight, you can achieve 6 tons / hour) I knew the guys who did 5,4 good (but this is constant control and "jerking off") but here it is like in a film .. "you want to live and not like that .. you will get overwhelmed" soldier
          But we take normal data and "not a normal 5-ton residue", that is, 47 tons and 7 tons per hour.
          The speed is 900, in theory we get your 6000 km, but ... right there, to the normal balance, another 3 tons, and this is minus 400 km, in the end it will already be 5400, plus the departure pattern for another 100 km, already 5300, plus the wind (i.e. (i.e., navigation reserve-correction) it's good that if it is in the tail and you are rolling downhill, and if on the contrary, then back to the West, so that at least another 300 km away, or maybe even more .... well ... and the most interesting thing .. because we flew like a .. "walk", ie. without everything.
          You know about bombs. The rocket is full-weight 6 tons, "almost" an hour of flight. Another 800-900 km, so what's left of your range? wink
          REALITY recourse
          I beg your pardon, for a long "educational program", +! With respect, soldier
          1. +5
            21 October 2014 22: 11
            Quote: vaf
            I beg your pardon, for a long "educational program", +! With respect,

            Sergey, thanks for the details! I really read ... I wanted you to educate us more often !!!
            Sincerely hi
      3. +2
        21 October 2014 21: 22
        With refueling over the Atlantic.
        1. +1
          22 October 2014 17: 41
          With refueling, the TU22M3 is equated to a strategist by agreement, because all refueling rods are removed, and the TU22M3 is just a distant bomber.
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    23. +1
      21 October 2014 16: 36
      in every barrel this USA plug
      you deal with your blacks, otherwise you have opened a hunt for them like mad dogs
      and we ourselves will figure out what and where to stir
    24. +1
      21 October 2014 16: 36
      Tu-22M3 and Iskander missile systems

      Tu-22M4
      Start of development in 1983 year.
      Modernization with the installation of new NK-32 engines and with the change of engine air intakes.
      Modernization of avionics by installing a new PNK, the Obzor radar (from Tu-160), the electronic warfare complex.
      Extension of the range of weapons.
      The prototype is on display at the AB Diaghilevo Museum.

      Tu-22M5
      Start of development in 1997 year.
      A modification of the wing contours was made,
      improving local aerodynamics and the quality of external surfaces in order to reduce EPR.
      Extension of the range of weapons.
      Installation of a flight control system at low altitude.
      Modernization of avionics.
      1. FID
        +3
        21 October 2014 17: 26
        There was no modernization of avionics, only a year ago a new Hephaestus PNK was delivered.
    25. Tartar
      0
      21 October 2014 16: 37
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Well, colleagues, this is generally prohibitive cynicism! belay

      This is to be expected. At first they were silent about Crimea, but at the right time they are used as a pretext for attacks on Russia. They will try to foment war. P # ndostan will solve the Russian question at all costs.
      1. 0
        21 October 2014 17: 15
        will at all costs solve the Russian question
        I wonder how this time?
    26. 0
      21 October 2014 16: 37
      Yeah, it’s possible to deploy fighters near our borders, but we can’t even have an extra column on our territory? No, guys - who did not have time, he was late ...
    27. +1
      21 October 2014 16: 37
      "Dirilki cardboard", what else can you say.
    28. P-38
      +1
      21 October 2014 16: 37
      Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stated that complexes like the Iskander could be located anywhere on the territory of Russia: “Where we want, we put it there!”.

      EXACTLY!!
      1. +5
        21 October 2014 17: 16
        And at first I read "Where we want, we will insert there!"
        At first he neighed, and then thought that my version was more substantial.
    29. +3
      21 October 2014 16: 38
      This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.
      The easiest thing for NATO is to remove its bases from this region ....
    30. 0
      21 October 2014 16: 38
      The dog barks, and the caravan goes on.
    31. Alexander
      0
      21 October 2014 16: 38
      Where does the data about the R-500 range of 2600km come from?
    32. alexandrovich
      +1
      21 October 2014 16: 38
      Let them rejoice that the militia in New Russia does not have the latest weapons and aircraft! But I think this is a matter of time! hi
    33. +1
      21 October 2014 16: 39
      And what, does the R-500 fly by 2,6 tons? Did not know. Ivanov then lied, saying that she did not violate the treaties banning short- and medium-range missiles. Lied. I did everything right good
      1. VAF
        VAF
        +1
        21 October 2014 17: 17
        Quote: Wiruz
        And what, does the R-500 fly by 2,6 tons? Did not know


        Gugr in the help, you type Garnet-Rubezh and .. you study, and here also the new engine wink
      2. 0
        22 October 2014 18: 37
        For sea-based missiles there is no range limitation.
    34. +4
      21 October 2014 16: 40
      but it was not necessary to bring his NATU to our borders! Now do not whine that we did not warn! let the heroe this winter not only be cold and hungry, but also insomnia did not give rest!
    35. Erg
      +3
      21 October 2014 16: 42
      The snake ball began to stir. This is good. Let them tremble. soldier
    36. sergey261180
      +3
      21 October 2014 16: 42
      According to parliamentarians, such a response step could be "the decision to completely stop all contacts between members of the military alliance and Moscow, as well as the withdrawal of Russian military personnel from NATO bases and facilities." It was also proposed to “prohibit Russia from conducting inspection flights within the framework of the“ open skies ”treaty (allows its participants to fly over each other’s territories in order to comply with existing arms control treaties)”.
      Brother Fox, just don’t throw in the thorn bush !!!
    37. +4
      21 October 2014 16: 44
      The people say this: "With your fat, you and the musals (that is, in the face)" wassat
      Seriously speaking, Russia is acting quite adequately to the actions that America in the person of NATO allows itself! Thank God those days have passed when Russia shyly averted its eyes and kept silent "in a rag" !!! Today our Motherland occupies a place worthy of its status in the world. The old principle is being revived, we will not allow ourselves to be offended and we will not allow the weak to offend !!! We must expand the circle of countries that we are ready to defend (not necessarily by military means, this is the last argument). In this case, we generally have their sanctions and isolation to the "bulb" !!! "It is easier to beat a herd and daddy ...", and such geeks as adversaries, Yankees and other evil spirits, all the more ... we will master with PEACEFUL, POLITE METHODS !!! That's all!!! hi
    38. 0
      21 October 2014 16: 45
      it became scary whether okay not yet in CUBA
    39. +5
      21 October 2014 16: 46
      Quote: La Hire
      When I say that the Pindos are already "insolent to the brink", I always have to take my words back. Because their insolence has no limit

      this is not arrogance, but the next round of the Cold War, to which the mattress-makers have been persuading Russia for the last 20 years ... this fuss in Congress is actions to approve Russia and its policies at the state level as alien to the interests of America, which means Russia is a threat to everything "to a democratic civilized society" ... that is, for amers and their policies, Russia is a de facto enemy ... then I have a question - WHAT BELONGING RUSSIA SHOULD REPORT TO ITS Opponent WHAT SHE DOES WHERE AND WHEN? A little time will pass and in Cuba the Russian complexes "ANTIMATRASSNIKI" will "grow" (it is not for nothing that Putin and Fidel whispered for 2 hours behind closed doors)
    40. +2
      21 October 2014 16: 48
      Yes, on this "Aircraft Carrier" of the Black Sea Fleet, TU22Ms land and take off in unlimited quantities, those who did not want to believe will have to!
    41. rockfor
      +5
      21 October 2014 16: 51
      Give Crimea? Yes, no problem, give it back. But only after they fulfill the Helsinki Accords. They will return Yugoslavia to its original borders, Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union. Then we will return Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR.
      1. 0
        22 October 2014 16: 12
        Quote: Rockfor
        Give Crimea? Yes, no problem, give it back. But only after they fulfill the Helsinki Accords. They will return Yugoslavia to its original borders, Czechoslovakia and the Soviet Union. Then we will return Crimea to the Ukrainian SSR.

        If we are to be buked at all, Germany must return to the original borders of the GDR and the FRG
    42. +1
      21 October 2014 16: 55
      Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stated that complexes like Iskander could be deployed anywhere in Russia: “Wherever we want, we put it there!”

      However, this statement on the plans of the Russian military in no way affected. As one of the high-ranking interlocutors of the newspaper in the General Staff said, "equipping the peninsula with the latest weapons is currently one of the priority areas."

      We do not need more. These are the right decisions. Let the dogs bark, and we will act in our national interests.
      Shoigu well done.
    43. pahom54
      +4
      21 October 2014 16: 58
      ""Placement of nuclear weapons in the sovereign territory of another state without his consent is an insidious and cynical decision, the letter says. - This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.».

      The fact that Crimea is our territory does not cause US doubt. And the fact that the states do not recognize this is for us. How to ...
      YOU (states) can have a military advantage in a region that does not belong to YOU, and we can’t in our own region ???
      Let the teams of "guests" in the Black Sea write their resignation reports, since what has come to Crimea now is far from comparable to flying over one Su-24 ...
    44. +3
      21 October 2014 16: 59
      ..... It is interesting if the Russian Duma made a statement that it was sharply concerned about the deployment of nuclear weapons in the state of Texas, which at one time the United States, without any referenda = chopped off = from the sovereign state of Mexico or in Guantanamo, part of the territory of Cuba, also annexed by this sovereign state .......... have passed and passed the 90s in which the United States dictated its will to Russia .... now we are on equal footing ... but this is the United States, the world gendarme like .... But there’s nothing to do, besides how to start respecting our country and its people .............
    45. +1
      21 October 2014 17: 02
      If we start to move something, then immediately the West opens ... the tenth volume of arms limitation treaties, but if they need to bomb something, then anyone
    46. +3
      21 October 2014 17: 04
      Crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier, reliably covered from the sea and ensuring the destruction of the largest American military base in Europe, located in Kosovo.
      1. VAF
        VAF
        +5
        21 October 2014 17: 25
        Quote: Dmitry 2246
        Crimea is an unsinkable aircraft carrier, reliably covered from the sea and providing


        Understand the blocking of the Bosphorus, constant control over the AUG and AUS in the Adriatic and the Mediterranean, and about, "certain conditions" the possibility of striking them in these areas soldier
    47. +3
      21 October 2014 17: 16
      Well, finally, otherwise they haven’t "gotten away" for a long time. Well, what about"Placing nuclear weapons on the sovereign territory of another state without its consent is an insidious and cynical decision."who would be indignant, especially since it is OUR LAND. So, tremble the bastards!
      1. 0
        22 October 2014 12: 43
        Quote: Funnels
        This is OUR LAND.

        And has always been ours.
        Pissing trembles only before the sensation of cold steel at the temple.
    48. +1
      21 October 2014 17: 24
      We’ll block them flying to Afghanistan laughing
    49. +2
      21 October 2014 17: 27
      They themselves were in the zone of defeat. They came very close and we are accused ...
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    51. +1
      21 October 2014 17: 34
      Colleagues, any actions of Russia aimed at strengthening its own strength will be perceived with hysteria. It's time to get used to it and do what we need.
    52. +2
      21 October 2014 17: 39
      They thought that a unilateral withdrawal from the ABM treaty was toys, a little military prank. And the deployment of interceptor missiles in close proximity to Russia will take place with impunity.
    53. 0
      21 October 2014 17: 52
      I look at the photo, the dunces, they don’t want to see such beauty in the sky...
      1. 0
        22 October 2014 21: 20
        It’s just that their eyes become big from this beauty.
        "Into the hollow:
        - Hello owl.
        - I'm not an owl, I'm a mouse...
        - What about big gases?
        “What am I?”
    54. +1
      21 October 2014 17: 57
      I place my socks where I want them.
    55. 0
      21 October 2014 18: 04
      If only they wouldn't go to hell... Our land - we put it where we want!
    56. PWG
      +1
      21 October 2014 18: 08
      Quote: b0bi
      “Wherever we want, we put it there!”

      Eh, it would be like this in everything! And Surkov should be given cancer!!!
    57. +1
      21 October 2014 18: 11
      Well, how did our people forget to ask permission from the monkey country! Unforgivable forgetfulness. It’s good that at least the State Department got it right about the elections.
    58. +1
      21 October 2014 18: 14
      look at your plate - mattress pads
    59. +2
      21 October 2014 18: 23
      To prevent Russia from approaching NATO bases “insidiously”, these bases must be removed away from Russia and that’s all.
    60. +1
      21 October 2014 18: 25
      Wasn’t it because the guys were concerned because they themselves wanted to place a base there? And now, bye bye, Crimea is Russian, and you can’t enter the Black Sea so easily, you either have to urgently break down or just skedaddle like “Duckling Cook did.”
      But flights to Afghanistan and the closure of all transshipment bases on Russian territory should have been prohibited as part of counter-sanctions, so the Americans would have scratched themselves
    61. +1
      21 October 2014 18: 29
      Yes, everything will be so. It’s time for the “partners” to think about it and finally pour cold water on their heads so that all sorts of crap doesn’t get into their heads, and it’s also useful for the prevention of all sorts of diseases.
    62. 0
      21 October 2014 18: 55
      The need to deploy a full-fledged group of troops on the Crimean peninsula was discussed in more detail at the September board of the Ministry of Defense. Shoigu linked this to “the sharply escalated situation in Ukraine and the military presence of foreigners in close proximity to Russia’s borders.” NATO reacted immediately, saying that the expansion of the Russian military presence in Crimea would lead to increased tension in Europe.”


      Don't worry, this is not directed against our Western partners. The strengthening of the group of Russian armed forces in Crimea is carried out in connection with the threat what Ebola fever. laughing
    63. 0
      21 October 2014 18: 56
      Send their congress to..., with all their statements!!!!
    64. +1
      21 October 2014 19: 00
      Piss when you're scared smile smile smile have you forgotten what it’s like to tremble in horror at the mere word RUSSIA soldier
    65. Leonardo
      +1
      21 October 2014 19: 04
      On my plot of land I plant everything that is beneficial to me. And mattress pads always get into other people’s gardens. It's time to take measures to protect your garden.
    66. +1
      21 October 2014 19: 34
      Yes, at least let them shit themselves.
    67. +4
      21 October 2014 19: 37
      What, you didn't wait? get the Iskanders and sign for them. not everything goes to the east
    68. 0
      21 October 2014 19: 59
      American congressmen are walking through the forest. For, any state on its territory can deploy its own weapons systems as it wishes. Claims can only be made when weapons are placed on the territory of third countries.
    69. 0
      21 October 2014 20: 10
      The minke whales didn't like it! It feels good! Let them get used to it, the bear is not their plucked white-headed crow. They won’t touch us, we ourselves won’t touch anyone.
    70. 0
      21 October 2014 20: 10
      This will allow Russia to get closer to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region.


      Absolutely true!

      Lawmakers have demanded that Obama report to Congress in the near future on possible retaliatory measures that Washington may take.


      We also have enough of our own talkers.
    71. Stan
      0
      21 October 2014 20: 11
      And the fact that Turkey has had nuclear missiles since the Cuban Missile Crisis (it was the response to the deployment of missiles in Cuba that provoked the Yusovites) is normal.
    72. 0
      21 October 2014 20: 27
      And I'm worried about the sneaky American submarine base in Britain! This threatens us! I am concerned!
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    74. 0
      21 October 2014 21: 03
      Quote: b0bi
      “Wherever we want, we put it there!”
      Gold words.

      We'll put it in whoever we want!!! laughing
    75. 0
      21 October 2014 21: 16
      The only way out for NATO is to withdraw bases from the borders with Russia to the flight range of the Iskanders.
    76. +1
      21 October 2014 21: 38
      How glad I am that our “partners” “don’t like” us again 365 days a year!
      This means we are doing everything right.
      And to put the device on contracts - that’s what the kind partners themselves taught! We can send them Gorbachev, who signed this “agreement,” and let them negotiate with him, like Zurabov and Kui - it’s not clear who, it’s not clear about what. and it’s unclear why....
    77. 0
      21 October 2014 21: 43
      Again Russia has approached the borders of NATO. No creativity.
    78. 0
      21 October 2014 21: 54
      They do not go to a foreign monastery with their charter.
    79. 0
      21 October 2014 22: 46
      The latter circumstance, according to congressmen, “is a direct violation of the Treaty on the Elimination of Medium and Small-Range Missiles, signed by the USSR in 1987 year, since the range of this missile’s flight is 2600 km (according to the agreement - from 500 to 5500 km).

      All this concerned ground-based systems. Air-launched missiles and Iskanders do not fall under this in any way.
    80. 0
      21 October 2014 23: 25
      Maybe in response they should cover the base in Ulyanovsk! Let them fly through dangerous regions. So that they can be knocked down with our needles.
    81. 0
      22 October 2014 00: 00
      USA - LOST... Words are the lot of the defeated. Rus' is ready for the future, but the West is not. Although, there is a pun here. The West has no future, therefore there is no reason to worry. LOGICAL;)
    82. 0
      22 October 2014 00: 47
      Friends found a large poster of Gorbachev from friends!
      the option to burn is too banal...
      What other options are there besides the target at the shooting range?
      /
      1. 0
        22 October 2014 12: 38
        Throw it in the trash - that's where it belongs.
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    83. 0
      22 October 2014 06: 43
      Quote: Iline
      This will allow Russia to come close to NATO bases, gaining a military advantage in the region. "

      The fact that these NATO bases have long approached the borders of Russia is somehow bashfully silent.


      It’s not being silent, but simply THEY CAN - BUT WE’RE IGNORANT! tongue AY-YAY! Evil Russians! angry They scare everyone, and even in their own country they do whatever they want! Ay-ay! am We urgently need to call the fifth column! wassat And the most important thing in this nonsense is that they don’t arrange for us to “overthrow the government”! crying I remember they have a document for sending their troops to us that has been ready for a long time... negative
    84. Dimka
      0
      22 October 2014 07: 26
      Fuck you USA! This is Russian land!
    85. 0
      22 October 2014 07: 38
      An absolutely correct decision, but due to the small area of ​​Crimea, certain systems are needed in other regions.
    86. +3
      22 October 2014 08: 03
      NATO reacted immediately, saying that the expansion of the Russian military presence in Crimea would lead to increased tension in Europe.”

      In my opinion, the main problem of Europe, and the whole world as a whole, is the presence of a legalized terrorist organization called NATO, striving for world domination. The liquidation of NATO will lead to the disappearance of existing tension.
      And I only welcome the deployment of troops in Crimea!
    87. 0
      22 October 2014 08: 06
      Great decision from my country!!! Russia has the right to place weapons in Crimea!!!!!! And the Americans can only suck it!!!!!
    88. 0
      22 October 2014 08: 07
      Collective letter? It would be better to collectively jump out of the window.
    89. 0
      22 October 2014 08: 12
      Earlier, Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu stated that complexes like the Iskander could be located anywhere on the territory of Russia: “Where we want, we put it there!”.
      Seryoga is great.
    90. 0
      22 October 2014 08: 43
      Crimea is ours and no one dares tell us what and where we will put on our land. In general, they became insolent.
    91. 0
      22 October 2014 10: 03
      Well done Shoigu! well said
    92. 0
      22 October 2014 10: 26
      The dog barks, but the caravan moves on. In our country we post what we want and where we want!
    93. 0
      22 October 2014 10: 56
      What cynicism the gentlemen from the West are showing, they have already become insolent to the point of lawlessness, taking for granted that NATO is an organization for the defense of a number of states, and not even seeing the CSTO point-blank. Now the eastern geyropa on the border with Russia is flooded with American military units with powerful weapons of all types, reinforced by naval forces, and Russia does not even consider it necessary to ask. Then what’s the matter, gentlemen, congressmen, what complaints can there be against Russia, which is trying by all means to protect its territory from aggression. You, gentlemen from the bad West, annexed Kosovo from Serbia without choking and did not apologize to the Serbs in a single word. What right do you have to reproach Russia for the annexation of Crimea, which has always been part of Russia and was illegally transferred to Ukraine at one time. You have now torn Ukraine apart from Ukrainian Jews in order to seize Crimea and deprive Russia of the Black Sea coast. So take a bite and use what you have while you have it. A little time will pass and the USA will shrink to the size of Japan and then you will understand where the good is, but only this will be another generation
    94. 0
      22 October 2014 11: 13
      tremble, monkey, they will soon come for you.
      Obama will work on the embankment in Yalta
    95. 0
      22 October 2014 12: 06
      “This is a direct violation of the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty, signed by the USSR in 1987, since the flight range of this missile is 2600 km (according to the treaty, from 500 to 5500 km).

      Well, they destroyed the USSR, now ask from it! laughing
    96. 0
      22 October 2014 12: 28
      If mattress pads bark, then this is a sure sign that Russia is moving in the right direction.
    97. 0
      22 October 2014 12: 31
      Russia is deploying weapons in Crimea not against NATO but against ISIS. Our (friends) in NATO don't have to worry about that. wink
    98. Peter the first
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      22 October 2014 12: 38
      That is, the possibility of a repetition of the Cuban Missile Crisis is annulled by the deployment of nuclear weapons (at that time NATO missiles were deployed in Turkey, reducing the flight time). All fuss with missile defense aimed against Russia will also be canceled. Before this, there was the signing of an oil and gas contract with China - that is, cheating Russia by driving down energy prices (that’s how they cheated Brezhnev’s party in the 1970s) will also not work. It's called checkmate :)
    99. 0
      22 October 2014 12: 43
      It’s a pity, he’s already old, he’d gladly serve in Crimea, on the front line, so to speak... winked
    100. +1
      22 October 2014 14: 55
      Crimea is just the beginning; Iskanders need to be deployed to Cuba and Venezuela. Then it won't be boring!!!

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