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Anatoly Wasserman: "The fever is not only oil. The binding of the ruble to the barrel is a consequence of a misunderstanding of the basics of the economy"

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Anatoly Wasserman: "The fever is not only oil. The binding of the ruble to the barrel is a consequence of a misunderstanding of the basics of the economy"In our stories There were already two options for the effects of the oil collapse.

The first is in the 1980s. The oil collapse of that time turned into perestroika for us - and that, in turn, was a complete rejection of socialism and the collapse of the country. The consequences to this day are far from being cleared.

The second time is in 1997 – 98. Then, by the way, the financial crisis was also superimposed on the oil collapse. True, then Western Europe and North America managed to localize this crisis within Southeast Asia and the Russian Federation. For us, as is well known, the 1998.08.17 default was the consequence of this entire bouquet. But then the government was headed by people who were not afraid of scary words like “socialism” and “nationalization”. Thanks to this, we very quickly switched everything that was still available - despite all the efforts of reformers - the industry to import substitution mode. As a result, as Griboedovskiy Skalozub said about Moscow, “the fire contributed much to its decoration,” so then it would be possible to say about Russia of that time, “the default contributed to it a lot towards fortification.” Less than a year later, the economic collapse was replaced by rapid growth. Thanks to this growth, we have literally exceeded the pre-default level in all the main indicators in a couple of years. To this day, much of our economy is inherited from that push.

Unfortunately, now the economic bloc of the government consists solely of people for whom “import substitution” is a no less scary word than “socialism”.

Moreover, these people do not even understand the simplest elements of the economy. For example, they do not understand that any currency is ultimately provided with all the goods and services that can be purchased for it directly, without resorting to the intermediary role of other currencies. Instead, they (in the spirit of the so-called Washington Consensus, describing the conditions set by already developed countries to developing countries for the sake of delaying their development and thereby preventing competition from them) insist that the ruble should be provided only with stocks of other currencies — not goods and services. Naturally, any country can receive foreign currencies only as payment for export goods and services (and in exotic ways such as indemnity from the vanquished - like the United States of America now receive indemnity from all former socialist countries that decided to capitulate in the Third World War and were convinced that capitulation does not save from ruin, and often even accelerates it). That is, the part of the government that is formally responsible for all our production, is doing its utmost to ensure that the ruble is provided only with a very small — not needed by ourselves and therefore leaving abroad — share of this production.

That is why the ruble depends on oil. After all, its official rate is calculated only on the basis of the ratio of export and import flows, and not on the basis of resources circulating and used within the country. It is this compulsory peg of the ruble to only an insignificant part of what the country generally works with and what it generally has, which is precisely the reason for the oil rush of the Russian currency exchange.

It is clear that Russia cannot afford such a fever - if only because it fairly prevents growth. But in this case, the fever is only a consequence of other growth impediments created by the economic bloc of the government. I will note only the most famous methods of struggle of this bloc against life: a fundamental unwillingness to engage in import substitution; financial policy impeding the development of any kind of production; the maximum limitation of domestic lending, leading to the fact that both our banks and our production workers are forced to take loans only abroad ... and so on and so forth.

The current ruble oil fever - an indicator that it is the economic bloc of our government time after time, in the most diverse ways, is the main obstacle to the development of the economy. Russia, of course, can no longer tolerate such an oil dependence of the dollar - and in general can no longer tolerate such dependence of the Russian economic authorities themselves on what the foreign “Princess Marya Aleksevna” will say. So, can no longer tolerate in the government adherents preached by countless foreign princesses and their local servants (such as the Higher School of Economic Eradication) libertarian - promising the beneficence of unlimited economic freedom of the individual without any regard for society (and with extreme libertarians - even with the denial of the very existence of society) - creeds.
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  1. Funnels
    Funnels 21 October 2014 14: 59
    +92
    Everything is simple and easy to understand, as always. Thank you.
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 21 October 2014 15: 11
      +113
      I agree with the author, I’ll only add that the current situation with the ruble and the economy as a whole can be a good reason for a change in government and economic bloc

      Our internal "partners" are more dangerous for the country than overseas


      1. Userpic
        Userpic 21 October 2014 16: 03
        +20
        Quote: bulvas
        The current situation with the ruble and the economy as a whole may be a good reason to change the government and the economic bloc

        How many were these reasons?
        1. bulvas
          bulvas 21 October 2014 16: 29
          +13
          Quote: Userpic
          Quote: bulvas
          The current situation with the ruble and the economy as a whole may be a good reason to change the government and the economic bloc

          How many were these reasons?



          I agree, there were not a few reasons, but such support from the president as there was not yet and it is not known when there will still be


          1. Userpic
            Userpic 21 October 2014 16: 45
            +23
            Quote: bulvas
            such president support

            And what is needed - 146%? Otherwise it won't start?

            If he is "serving" for the third term, then there was enough support before, but not - everything is in place.

            A year ago, on the forums, they shouted "hurray" about the appointment of Nabiullina, they say now everything will be - and? Nowadays she is already hayut, but who appointed her?

            6 years ago they shouted "Urya Medvedev, successor, tandem", and for the last 4 years he has been called an evil worse than Chubais. Who recommended Medvedev for the presidency and who appointed him prime minister?

            Conclusions?
            1. gorge1945
              gorge1945 21 October 2014 18: 32
              +30
              The worst thing is that an ordinary person forced to steal a loaf of bread,
              that they would not starve to death, they give 5 years without trial and trial, and at the same time, people in government positions and stealing billions of dollars remain at large the question of our justice, how long will the thief go free. We have a strange position, at first the official is given the opportunity to steal, flush to the west, and then put on the international wanted list. As for the Medvedev government, these liberals are not able to boost the Russian economy.
              1. matross
                matross 21 October 2014 20: 45
                +3
                Quote: gorge1945
                an ordinary person forced to steal a loaf of bread,
                that would not starve to death, without trial, give 5 years

                Now? In Russia? Are there examples? Write please! Where are they so hungry and five "for a spike" call already without a trial or investigation?
                1. Mol
                  Mol 21 October 2014 21: 34
                  +20
                  matross
                  Where are they so hungry and five "for a spike" call already without a trial or investigation?

                  The most interesting thing is that it seems that you are not interested in examples of how people holding high government posts in Russia steal billions and remain at large!
                  It is clear that gorge1945 exaggerates, but there are plenty of unfair examples of how our judicial system punishes ordinary citizens and those in power! And there are EXAMPLES! I scored it in a search engine and looked. Found. But I will not give them to you. Because I am sure that the question, "There are examples," you asked not at all in order to find out these very examples.
                  1. matross
                    matross 21 October 2014 22: 20
                    -6
                    Quote: mol
                    It is clear that gorge1945 is exaggerating

                    Yah? It’s just driving a blizzard - more precisely.
                    Quote: mol
                    unfair examples of how our judicial system punishes ordinary citizens

                    There are examples of injustice against citizens. Simple and not very. Nobody argues with this.
                    Quote: mol
                    Because I am sure that the question, "There are examples," you asked not at all in order to find out these very examples.

                    I am sure - overtake. No no. By the nature of the service, I know a lot of examples. Real, not snotty about a roll, hunger, five and especially - about "without trial and investigation" fairy tales for especially liberal intellectuals.
                    1. Mol
                      Mol 21 October 2014 23: 55
                      +13
                      matross

                      Maybe a blizzard drives, maybe exaggerates - it's from which side to look. And how "more precisely" - let others decide.

                      "There are examples of injustice against citizens. Simple and not so."

                      But the ratio of "simple" and "not very simple" examples is quite depressing. And examples in relation to "not very simple" citizens, in modern Russia, are generally difficult to find. And the law seems to be ONE FOR ALL.

                      "By the nature of the service, I know a lot of examples. Real ..."

                      I thought that you yourself know a lot of real things. yes But the harsh reality, sometimes, is worse than fairy tales ... hi
                      1. Nonik
                        Nonik 22 October 2014 23: 22
                        +4
                        Quote: mol
                        Maybe a blizzard drives, maybe exaggerates - it's from which side to look. And how "more precisely" - let others decide.

                        I know an example, at our enterprise, where I was a lawyer, they stole a small coil of wire from a low-voltage power line, took them, and gave them a suspended sentence after the trial. And not "5 years without trial and investigation." You have to be more objective, more objective. If you stole a loaf, it depends on who. A grandmother with a very small pension has one severity of crime, and from a store another. The same applies to the notorious "bag of potatoes", which they like to periodically cite as an example.
                      2. bda
                        bda 23 October 2014 13: 50
                        +2
                        Quote: Author
                        ... it is precisely the economic bloc of our government over and over again, in the most diverse ways, that turns out to be the main obstacle to the development of the economy

                        But he (our Liberst economic bloc) is far from alone - it does not exist with itself in an airless space - this “bloc” is only a part of a system in which for many years in a row everyone “in his own area” has been fighting our country as best he can:
                        - Liberal economists are ruining production and the economy as a whole;
                        - Liberal officials "for science and education" are ruining and destroying both science and education;
                        - liberal "human rights activists" (for whom they even specially created all kinds of "chambers", "councils", etc.) are fighting for life and death with the people of Russia, introducing by all crooks either juvenile justice or universal abortion (called - "family planning"), then justifying the need to continue the export of Russian children abroad, then lobbying for the replacement of the local population by foreign cultural migrants, then fight against the "dominance of Orthodoxy", with the simultaneous imposition of a wide variety of imported sects and trends, then rush into battle for the right of homosexuals and other "minorities" to impose their will on the majority, etc .;
                        - liberal historians distort our history as best they can and insist on the continuation of this process - either a new wave of "de-Stalinization" in our country, then some begin to recognize "the fact of the occupation of the Baltic states", then the red banners on Victory Day, as if by accident, begin to disappear from the "holiday stream" , then YA Gagarin's on anniversary posters the word "USSR" on his helmet turns out to be "photoshopped", etc.
              2. Userpic
                Userpic 21 October 2014 22: 34
                +9
                Quote: gorge1945
                The worst thing is that an ordinary person forced to steal a loaf of bread, so as not to starve to death, without trial, will be given 5 years
                Exaggerated, but essentially true.

                and at the same time, people in government positions and stealing billions of dollars remain at large
                So ITS. )))

                question to our justice for how long
                Who, in accordance with article 83, paragraph e), submits to judges of the constitutional court, supreme court, and appoints judges of federal courts?
                Who, in accordance with paragraph e1) of Article 83, makes a representation to the Attorney General and appoints prosecutors of the entities?
                Who is the guarantor of the constitution?

                We have a strange position: first, the official is given the opportunity to steal, rush off to the west and then put on the international wanted list
                Own is OWN.

                As for the Medvedev government, these liberals are not able to boost the Russian economy.
                They all understand - GOALS are different.
              3. ADK57
                ADK57 22 October 2014 12: 01
                +6
                Legalized SERDYUKOVSHINA !!!!!!!
                Let us remember the famous: "Scoundrel! But YOUR scoundrel".
              4. pavel_SPB
                pavel_SPB 24 October 2014 11: 57
                0
                Wow Medvedev and not a vote in the election .... on the soap of his boy-bunny
            2. larand
              larand 21 October 2014 19: 29
              +7
              Quote: Userpic
              Quote: bulvas
              such president support

              And what is needed - 146%? Otherwise it won't start?

              If he is "serving" for the third term, then there was enough support before, but not - everything is in place.

              A year ago, on the forums, they shouted "hurray" about the appointment of Nabiullina, they say now everything will be - and? Nowadays she is already hayut, but who appointed her?

              6 years ago they shouted "Urya Medvedev, successor, tandem", and for the last 4 years he has been called an evil worse than Chubais. Who recommended Medvedev for the presidency and who appointed him prime minister?

              Conclusions?

              There is only one conclusion - the government was formed not by the president, but by someone else or others. And this government suits them.
              1. Userpic
                Userpic 21 October 2014 22: 45
                +1
                Quote: larand
                There is only one conclusion - the government was formed not by the president, but by someone else or others. And this government suits them.

                That is, you blame our main, terrible and terrible, the one who the whole EU wants to pair with the USA - political impotence, I understand you correctly? laughing

                Tady, the question arises - what the hell is the president for whom the acre of rotten PR is nothing? smile
              2. ADK57
                ADK57 23 October 2014 11: 16
                +1
                larand!
                The president could also be formatted. But we, unfortunate ones, are waiting and, possibly, will wait, for his self-reformatting in favor of the people.
              3. bda
                bda 23 October 2014 14: 08
                +1
                larand SU 21 October 2014 19: 29 ↑

                Quote: Userpic
                Quote: bulvas
                such president support

                And what is needed - 146%? Otherwise it won't start?

                If he is "serving" for the third term, then there was enough support before, but not - everything is in place.

                A year ago, on the forums, they shouted "hurray" about the appointment of Nabiullina, they say now everything will be - and? Nowadays she is already hayut, but who appointed her?

                6 years ago they shouted "Urya Medvedev, successor, tandem", and for the last 4 years he has been called an evil worse than Chubais. Who recommended Medvedev for the presidency and who appointed him prime minister?

                Conclusions?

                There is only one conclusion - the government was formed not by the president, but by someone else or others. And this government suits them.

                Then it turns out that the President is simply appointed by "someone" to the post of extreme.
            3. matross
              matross 21 October 2014 20: 13
              +5
              Quote: Userpic
              Conclusions?

              Are you waiting for someone to play along? Write your conclusions yourself, without hesitation - Putin is fed by TNKs, has placed liberals and traitors everywhere "on the economy", he plays a patriot, in fact leads Russia to the grave ... Guess the conclusions?
              And on what such forums a year ago they shouted "urya" about the appointment of Nabiullina? And 6 years ago they shouted "urya Medvedev, successor, tandem"? Specifically? Maybe you both "shouted" and "yelled" on some forums?
              No need to provoke anyone here, and even so cheap! Does the glory of the daughter of officers keep you awake?
              1. Mol
                Mol 21 October 2014 20: 59
                +7
                matross

                Waiting for someone to play along?

                The impression is that it is YOU who are waiting for something. Maybe a team of like-minded people in order to merge with them in a single burst of adoration of the great and infallible, as well as to protect his honor and dignity ?! I don’t like what Userpik wrote, don’t read it, you can even blacklist it so that you can read only ideologically correct comments. Communication is free, no one slaves anyone. In which such Internet sites shouted "urrya, urrya" Nabiullina and tandem, you yourself can search. It has long been noticed that some citizens have a short memory, and they prefer to live according to the principle - who will remember the old ... This is especially true for loyal citizens. Userpick's comment is no more provocative and cheap than YOUR (much less so for me)! You probably even have any hint of mental Negative attitude towards Putin does not calmly give information and comments ?!
                1. matross
                  matross 21 October 2014 21: 49
                  +2
                  Quote: mol
                  It seems that you are waiting for something. Maybe a team of like-minded people

                  This is a false impression, dear. I am here and so among like-minded people. And a couple of renegades will not change the general climate.
                  Quote: mol
                  I don’t like what Userpic wrote, don’t read, you can even put it on the black list so that you can read only ideologically correct comments. Communication is free, no one bothers anyone.

                  Yes, I don't like what he wrote. But not because it is "ideologically wrong". But because he was afraid to write the way he really thinks. He preferred to probe the opinion with the hope of support. Therefore, I saw fit to answer. And so I would have limited myself to a minus.
                  PS You rightly noticed that communication on the forum is free. Therefore, why are you so so outraged that you decided to put me in my place? There are plus or minus buttons and nefig space to clog.
                  1. Mol
                    Mol 21 October 2014 23: 18
                    +3
                    matross

                    I have no doubt that HERE you have enough like-minded people! But where is your "here"? Are you talking about the Internet in general, about the site, or specifically about the comments on this article ?! And maybe about the whole country ?! Because in the discussion for this article, there will be more people who agree with the user's opinion than agreeing with yours. So who here a renegade, and who is not is a very, very controversial issue. "Climate" is an extremely unstable thing. And it was noticed long ago that with the change of "climate" many loyal subjects quickly change their minds.
                    Actually, I am not indignant at all. You didn’t like Userpick’s comment, I didn’t like yours, but I liked him. Why did he write like this, and not otherwise, was afraid, not afraid - these are just your speculations! And do not try to give out your speculation for the thoughts of others! Read what the person wrote, and never read what he didn't write. For the options why he did this, and not otherwise, the mass. You think that he was afraid, but I believe that Userpik did not write conclusions, because he wanted people to THINK, think on their own and come to certain conclusions. Sometimes thinking on your own is very helpful. Develop logical thinking, learn to compare, look for causal relationships, etc., etc. You, apparently, relying on the support of the "majority", decided YOUR opinion - "cheap provocation" - to be the only correct one. Therefore, I considered it necessary to answer in order to show that not only you have like-minded people. And it is not at all a fact that "yours" are in the majority.
              2. Userpic
                Userpic 21 October 2014 22: 57
                +2
                Quote: matRoss
                Waiting for someone to play along?
                I’m waiting, and not in vain - I’ve waited for you)))

                Write your conclusions yourself, without hesitation
                My goal is to make people like you think.

                Putin is complementary to TNK
                It's unlikely.

                placed liberals and traitors everywhere "on the economy"
                Their people smile

                plays patriot himself
                Fact good

                actually leads Russia to the grave
                Fact...

                And on what such forums a year ago they shouted "urya" about the appointment of Nabiullina?
                At all - should I dig in your "pedigree"?

                And 6 years ago they shouted "urya Medvedev, successor, tandem"?
                That is, it was a falsification, but in reality no one chose it - did I understand you correctly? laughing

                No need to provoke anyone here, and even so cheap!
                ??

                Does the glory of the daughter of officers keep you awake?
                Do you want to share fame?
                1. matross
                  matross 21 October 2014 23: 19
                  -3
                  To argue with the provocateur is an ungrateful occupation and, most importantly, plays into the hands of the provocateur himself. So I will not argue with you.
                  And for the respected forum participants, I allow myself, as an answer to the userpics, to advise you to read the morning article at VO http://topwar.ru/60815-grossmeyster-putin-analiz-ukrainskoy-partii.html
                  If someone has not read it. And it would be nice for userpics to pay attention to its rating. And you can continue to dump "your opinion", including even with attempts at humor.
                  1. Mol
                    Mol 22 October 2014 00: 31
                    +4
                    matross

                    "Arguing with a provocateur is thankless and, most importantly, plays into the hands of the provocateur himself."


                    Blacklist it, blacklist !!! laughing laughing

                    Eh, citizen, so you have revealed your true face! Have sunk to commonplace insults. Repeatedly noticed "yours" for such an unseemly occupation. By the way, this "smells" more of provocation. If you don’t want to argue, don’t argue, only the truth is born in disputes!
                    Thank you, "Dear Member" laughing for the link, read, "impressed"! There, however, again about Ukraine, about foreign policy. And then, like bum, about the internal, about the economy ... Therefore, yes, the ratings and opinions will be different. Especially thank you for allowing me to dump "my opinion". Naturally, we expect from you small heaps and large heaps! hi
                    1. matross
                      matross 22 October 2014 13: 35
                      +1
                      Quote: mol
                      here you have revealed your true face!

                      I did not hide him. I am sorry that understanding was not achieved. Look at the userpic story on your profile if there is time. He is a troll, but not primitive. Many are deceived. But this is so, information for consideration ...
                  2. Userpic
                    Userpic 22 October 2014 00: 59
                    0
                    Quote: matRoss
                    grossmeyster putin
                    1. ALPETSEM
                      ALPETSEM 23 October 2014 14: 20
                      +2
                      And the meaning of the queen, if the king is taken? Why post such nonsense?
                      1. anfil
                        anfil 24 October 2014 09: 09
                        0
                        ALPETSEM SU
                        And the meaning of the queen, if the king is taken? Why post such nonsense?


                        But because in "political chess" it is not kings who rule, but the gray cardinals lol
            4. ermolai
              ermolai 22 October 2014 04: 11
              +3
              Quote: Userpic
              Medvedev for president and who appointed prime minister?

              But do you think Furmanov appointed Chapaev?
              1. Userpic
                Userpic 22 October 2014 09: 15
                0
                Quote: ermolai
                But do you think Furmanov appointed Chapaev?

                Are you saying that Putin is no one there, and that even Medvedev is appointed without consulting him? smile
            5. Virrid
              Virrid 23 October 2014 19: 58
              0
              conclusion! all the same he is a man!
              Quote: Userpic
              Quote: bulvas
              such president support

              And what is needed - 146%? Otherwise it won't start?

              If he is "serving" for the third term, then there was enough support before, but not - everything is in place.

              A year ago, on the forums, they shouted "hurray" about the appointment of Nabiullina, they say now everything will be - and? Nowadays she is already hayut, but who appointed her?

              6 years ago they shouted "Urya Medvedev, successor, tandem", and for the last 4 years he has been called an evil worse than Chubais. Who recommended Medvedev for the presidency and who appointed him prime minister?

              Conclusions?
          2. Drewlik
            Drewlik 22 October 2014 16: 18
            0
            and what are we ready to do in order to remove this government and will not the "fifth column" take advantage of this and begin to fever our country?
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        3. My address
          My address 21 October 2014 16: 43
          +11
          hi Dear Userpick!
          And how do you like the illiteracy of the Ulyukaevites? If not worse ...
          To state that mothercapital does not solve the problem of fertility, as those who were about to give birth, just before. These "Ekanamists" or do not understand fool that population growth depends on the age of the mother, the sooner the better, or simply am pests.
          1. DRA-88
            DRA-88 21 October 2014 17: 05
            +12
            Quote: My address
            And how do you like the illiteracy of the Ulyukaevites?

            Illiterate the whole government without exception !!!
            And if there are literate people there, then they realize what they are doing - they are ENEMIES !!!
            1. Userpic
              Userpic 21 October 2014 23: 06
              +7
              Quote: DRA-88
              Illiterate the whole government without exception !!!

              Nooo - these are very smart guys ...
              1. DRA-88
                DRA-88 21 October 2014 23: 08
                +4
                Quote: Userpic
                Nooo - these are very smart guys ...

                Kamrad, I wrote it that way! yes
                The next branch is waiting for you! good
          2. Sandah
            Sandah 22 October 2014 02: 17
            +1
            All gave birth to whom the age of the mother allowed, while they were not going to do this! But he did it ;-) Majorishka with two children gave a grief, but then he gave birth to those of the third ... to get fucked - with love ?!
          3. Userpic
            Userpic 22 October 2014 09: 32
            +6
            Quote: My address
            hi

            And how do you like the illiteracy of the Ulyukaevites? If not worse ...
            Worse is a focused policy.

            To state that mothercapital does not solve the problem of fertility, as those who were about to give birth, just before.
            In a sense, they are right - mat. is only a small help for those who want to give birth. Those who do not want to give birth, or want, but do not allow finances, housing, etc. - no mat. will not help.
            The country should have a balanced demographic policy, including, among other things, increasing the purchasing power of wages and the affordability of housing. And since no one is going to do this, then the Ulyukayevites (they are Putinites) make a completely rational conclusion for themselves from the series "it’s better not instead of something."

            These "Ekanamists" either do not understand that population growth depends on the age of the mother, the sooner the better, or simply pests.
            They can understand, they can not understand, they can not give a damn - this is not the case: the direction of economic policy, that is, the goal, is determined by the president, and the government is solving the tasks. If it does not solve the stated tasks, and does not bear any responsibility, this means only one thing: the tasks declared publicly and the tasks actually set are not the same thing.
        4. WKS
          WKS 21 October 2014 17: 57
          +13
          Quote: Userpic
          How many were these reasons?

          In fact, with such a collapse of the national currency, any decent government headed by the chairman should resign. But our bronzed chairman of the government apparently expects a command from his superiors.
          1. Wheel
            Wheel 21 October 2014 22: 19
            +6
            Quote: wks
            In fact, with such a collapse of the national currency, any decent government headed by the chairman should resign. But our bronzed chairman of the government apparently expects a command from his superiors.

            There is no need to be too smart to connect the fall in oil prices and the fall of the ruble.
            You need to be a little smarter to understand why the ruble is not supported.
            And everything is very simple, if you remember who orders music in our state, whose interests our state strictly observes.
            The chemistry of the process is simple to disgrace.
            Only the weakening of the ruble allows the oil oligarchs (and indeed any commodity oligarchs) to keep their profits, and in the long term, and specifically to weld on the upcoming "correction" of the ruble.
            So there can be no thought of any resignation.
          2. Userpic
            Userpic 21 October 2014 23: 11
            +4
            Quote: wks
            In fact, with such a collapse of the national currency, any decent government headed by the chairman should resign
            good

            But our bronzed chairman of the government apparently expects a command from his superiors.
            Is he "waiting" for this command for the first time and not waiting?
            And who appointed, recommended and reappointed the bronzed?
        5. aksakal
          aksakal 21 October 2014 20: 27
          +15
          Quote: Userpic
          Quote: bulvas
          The current situation with the ruble and the economy as a whole may be a good reason to change the government and the economic bloc

          How many were these reasons?
          - Putin, being the prime minister, frankly missed there. He was not interested in the economy, not interested, and now, play political intrigues, in which he became an ace, to play. He is enthusiastic and plays. It’s a necessary and important thing, but in the end, someone in the end should be engaged in? Already how to reach the President? Glazyev recommends that Khazin almost swear, but the author of the Sabzh, the esteemed Wasserman, has spoken out many times ... These are experts, they don’t advise people from the street, but Putin doesn’t blow his nose. No reaction at all! am am As the comprador’s gang sits at the economic power, it continues to sit and ruin Russia! am am Mr. President, if you are so uninterested in the economy and interested in politics - head the Foreign Ministry, the sweetest thing! Free the chair for the man who will finally begin to rake all these Augean stables, which the liberalists have fooled here!
          Respect to the author of the Sabzh, especially for the part where he talks about the provision of the ruble and the unlawful attachment of the ruble to foreign currencies and to oil, which accounts for only 25% of Russia's GDP.
          1. Userpic
            Userpic 21 October 2014 23: 30
            -5
            Quote: aksakal
            Putin, being the prime minister, frankly missed there. The economy was uninteresting to him, uninteresting, and now, play political intrigues, in which he became an ace, to play
            Facts, logic? Not?
            Is it normal that you accuse the current president of the Russian Federation of non-fulfillment of his duties during his premiership? (and after all there was at the moment 7 fool that you clicked laughing )

            He is passionate and plays
            And it should WORK, that is, guarantee the implementation of the provisions of the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

            The business is necessary and important
            A game? belay

            Already how to reach the President?
            Do you offer feet?

            These are experts, not people from the street.
            Is this a Wasserman expert? laughing

            As the comprador’s gang sits at the economic power, it continues to sit and ruin Russia!
            So who put her there? smile

            Mr. President, if you are so uninterested in economics and interested in politics, head the Foreign Ministry, the sweetest thing!
            My friend, part 3 of the article of the 80th constitution of the Russian Federation read. smile

            But in general - thanks, neighing laughing
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 23 October 2014 01: 10
              +2
              Quote: Userpic
              Facts, logic? Not?
              - Have you watched Putin recently? Only in 2011, when did Medvedev spend his term in office? Putin did all the bullshit, he didn’t do it, and newspapers like AiF and Komsomolki openly wrote that the prime minister was bored, frankly bored ... What facts did you have if it was before your eyes only three years ago? That would be exhausted by the economy then, now there would be less problems
              Quote: Userpic
              A game?
              in addition to Brzezinski, I advise you to read Johan Heizinga, the GUGL will help you, you were not banned there, were you? Huizinga will explain to you that the word "game" should not be used only in the narrow sense in which you are accustomed to using it since childhood. Huizinga will explain to you that the game is more than serious. And in general, it would not hurt you to read not only Huizingu, you would not hurt to read more, just read to start, and then, you see, quantity will turn into quality.
              Quote: Userpic
              Is this a Wasserman expert? laughing
              - already the fact that Wasserman does not need to be sent to read literature, which is included by default in the gentleman's set of a self-respecting educated gentleman, even for that Wasserman can be respected. But Wasserman has already proved that he knows a lot, and more than many who call themselves "experts."
              Quote: Userpic
              So who put her there? smile
              - Study the recent history of Russia, all the "planted" were planted some more during the time of a certain Gorbachev, and some at all during the time of a certain Yeltsin. And my post is about the time for Putin to pick them up from there. Although this will give little too - they knocked Kudrin over, but he nevertheless manages to influence the financial policy of the authorities. Dostum must be tried
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        7. nickname 1 and 2
          nickname 1 and 2 22 October 2014 15: 58
          -1
          Quote: Userpic
          may be a good reason to change the government and the economic bloc


          "PAPE" know better

          Best the enemy of the good!

          "These" we have already studied and do not bite!

          Take away these new ones will be more dodgy!

          Not the fact that the new ones are better than the old ones.
          1. Userpic
            Userpic 22 October 2014 17: 33
            +1
            Quote: nick 1 and 2
            "PAPE" know better
            Obey your dad.

            Best the enemy of the good!
            In the sense that replaces it, takes the place of the good, while the previous good ceases to exist.

            "These" we have already studied and do not bite!
            Who did you learn?

            Take away these new ones will be more dodgy!
            Who are these?

            Not the fact that the new ones are better than the old ones.
            You can’t go without servility?
      2. panfil
        panfil 21 October 2014 16: 08
        +21
        I have long wanted to speak out about the need to change the government of the Russian Federation. Yes, individual ministers occupy their seats with dignity (Minister of Foreign Affairs, Minister of Defense). At the same time, the rest, led by the chairman of the government, simply wipe their pants. May presidential decrees are not implemented, inflation is high, GDP growth is zero - why keep such a government?
      3. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 21 October 2014 16: 43
        +4
        Quote: bulvas
        I agree with the author, I’ll only add that the current situation with the ruble and the economy as a whole can be a good reason for a change in government and economic bloc

        Our internal "partners" are more dangerous for the country than overseas

        You can't say more precisely. Why are only voices of "ub.lud.kov from the economy" heard !? Wasserman is not alone, after all, talking about it !? It is high time for the President to ban the classical song by Ludwig van Beethoven to the verses of I.V. Goethe "And my marmot is with me!" - As criminal, anti-national.
      4. DRA-88
        DRA-88 21 October 2014 17: 03
        +7
        Quote: bulvas
        Our internal "partners" are more dangerous for the country than overseas

        The matter is in the government, and in the political and economic system that forms and then protects this government!
      5. oblako
        oblako 21 October 2014 18: 15
        +5
        The Fed must be destroyed ... Although ... it will die itself. Anatoly Wasserman once again says seemingly obvious things: In addition to profit streams, there are also "utility" streams. It is not the same!! It is not at all the same in politics and economics. Our government, with the air of Indian leaders, is again selling land for beads. Some people give value to money, while others either agree with it or not! Our government agrees ...
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      7. Vorlon
        Vorlon 21 October 2014 18: 32
        0
        I want a change of government. But I do not agree that you agree with the author. Because the author (author) is talking nonsense. Not because of oil prices, because of the top, who wanted to get rich. Where did the so-called "party gold" go? Something has subsided interest in this topic.
      8. Vorlon
        Vorlon 21 October 2014 18: 32
        0
        I want a change of government. But I do not agree that you agree with the author. Because the author (author) is talking nonsense. Not because of oil prices, because of the top, who wanted to get rich. Where did the so-called "party gold" go? Something has subsided interest in this topic.
      9. ADK57
        ADK57 22 October 2014 11: 56
        +3
        Add.
        1. To the limit, the destroyed economy of post-war Germany began to recover after a direct ban on the export of foreign currency. It is the export of the people’s earned for a cordon that is one of the main tools for robbing any developing country. Within the framework of the WTO, the rejection of this vicious practice is not possible.
        2. The central bank should be a state structure and fully accountable to the state. In the USA, this is a private structure of oligarchic (now international) capital and, as a result, the country is mired in debt. And we are drowning in the debts of those very international banks, which themselves are in debt. By this we continue to calmly ruin our economy.
      10. dr.Bo
        dr.Bo 22 October 2014 13: 13
        +1
        Quote: bulvas
        I agree with the author, I’ll only add that the current situation with the ruble and the economy as a whole can be a good reason for a change in government and economic bloc.

        Our internal "partners" are more dangerous for the country than overseas

        Friend, you're 100% right.
      11. dr.Bo
        dr.Bo 22 October 2014 13: 13
        +1
        And Vaserman at the premiere)), I wonder if this could happen?
    2. xenod55
      xenod55 21 October 2014 15: 20
      +15
      Such currency growth in Russia has ALWAYS been SPECULAR. Well, who the hell does this dollar and the euro need. What, someone in Russia decided to buy up half of Europe and the United States, that they grab them in the billions a day, and even at such prices? Indeed, for one billion green you have to pay 40 !!! billion rubles. Who, one wonders, has such grandmothers in a zashashnik? And after all, this has been going on for several days.
      1. Lelek
        Lelek 21 October 2014 16: 41
        +6
        Quote: xenod55
        Well, who the hell does this dollar and the euro need.



        First of all, bankers and heads of corporations, so that there is something to live on without prejudice when the moment of truth comes and you have to "make your feet", and secondly, the government, so that, without bothering itself with organizing its own production of the necessary goods and equipment. buy them in neighboring countries, report that everything is "OK" and receive another medal and a six-figure prize (again in the EU). Something like that. winked
        1. DRA-88
          DRA-88 21 October 2014 17: 09
          +5
          Quote: Lelek
          First of all, bankers and heads of corporations, so that there is something to live on without prejudice when the moment of truth comes and you have to "make your feet"

          We must already try to help these "gentlemen" to make legs.
          1. Userpic
            Userpic 21 October 2014 23: 36
            +3
            Quote: DRA-88
            We must already try to help these "gentlemen" to make legs.

            Yeah, the hopeless ...
      2. Silumin
        Silumin 21 October 2014 16: 41
        +3
        On the contrary, it’s more profitable now to sell the currency, because for a billion candy wrappers you get 40 billion rubles.
        1. Nicanor
          Nicanor 21 October 2014 21: 42
          0
          And what will we provide for rubles? Oil-gas?
        2. Userpic
          Userpic 22 October 2014 00: 45
          0
          Quote: Nicanor
          And what will we provide for rubles? Oil-gas?

          Yes, at least some - it's not about this winked

          Quote: Silumin
          On the contrary, it’s more profitable now to sell the currency, because for a billion candy wrappers you get 40 billion rubles.

          And what will be the purchasing power of this fortieth?
      3. Iline
        Iline 21 October 2014 18: 30
        +4
        any currency is ultimately provided with all goods and services that can be purchased directly for it without resorting to the intermediary role of other currencies

        Golden words, comrade Wasserman. I will subscribe to each letter.
    3. Tektor
      Tektor 21 October 2014 15: 25
      +10
      "Bright head", as always, on top ... Only he does not tell how we can avoid "fever". And for this you need to do two things: print rubles and distribute to banks so that they start issuing loans, BUT did not start buying currency issued on rubles. In the right case, an increase in the money supply, the supply of rubles, will reduce interest on loans, and otherwise increase it. I know a bank for which you can’t buy currency - this is AKB Russia. Is the hint clear?
      1. APES
        APES 21 October 2014 15: 30
        +7
        Quote: Tektor
        Only he doesn't tell us how we can avoid the "fever".


        says, and in plain text:

        it is the economic block of our government over and over again, in the most diverse ways, that turns out to be the main obstacle to the development of the economy
        1. bubla5
          bubla5 21 October 2014 15: 55
          +2
          In short, understand Down with the ugly government!

          ____________________________
          Fixed!
          ____________________________

          Violation of paragraph "I" of the rules.

          Yours!
          © Finger
          1. Tektor
            Tektor 21 October 2014 16: 17
            -2
            It's not about "Down with!": An example is right before your eyes (Get out!). It's about making the right decisions. There you need a "big head". You have to think.
        2. Userpic
          Userpic 21 October 2014 16: 06
          +5
          Quote: APES
          says, and in plain text:

          it is the economic block of our government over and over again, in the most diverse ways, that turns out to be the main obstacle to the development of the economy

          And about who exactly proposed, appointed and approved these comrades - did not mention anywhere?
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      3. DRA-88
        DRA-88 21 October 2014 17: 12
        +4
        Quote: Tektor
        I know a bank for which you can’t buy currency - this is AKB Russia. Is the hint clear?

        Some garbage, he has currency accounts, and currency transactions, and buys currency!
        Do you know the successors of the Bank of Russia?
        1. Tektor
          Tektor 21 October 2014 17: 22
          0
          Do you know the successors of the Bank of Russia?
          Everything is in the public domain:
          http://web.abr.ru/upload/iblock/355/al30-09-2014.pdf
          1. DRA-88
            DRA-88 21 October 2014 17: 53
            +4
            Quote: Tektor
            Tektor

            I initially knew that this bank of the cooperative is a "lake", ie. "new" proprietary oligarchy, and Mr. Timchenko is a citizen of another state, let's go: At the moment, the former chairman of the board of directors of JSB "Russia" Yuri Kovalchuk directly and through CJSC "ABR Management" controls 39,785% of the bank's voting shares, Nikolay Shamalov controls another 10,247% through ABR Management CJSC, spouses Gennady and Elena Timchenko jointly own 7,766% of shares, Tatyana Svitova owns 6,989% of shares indirectly through Overpass-Invest LLC, the main owner of Severstal metallurgical corporation Alexey Mordashov through LLC Severgroup controls 5,825%, Oberon Estate LLC (beneficiary - Ivan Mironov) - 5,322%, Mikhail Shelomov owns a total of 6,691% of shares through Accept LLC and Platinum LLC, Relax LLC (beneficiary - Svetlana Krivonogikh) - 2,950%, OOO Gazprominvestgazifikatsiya - 2,950%; NP PPI - 2,495%, Mikhail Botvinkin through LLC TransStroy - 1,694% of shares, LLC Kordeks - 1,301% of shares, LLC Gazprom Mezhregiongaz Belgorod - 1,144% of shares, the rest of the shares are distributed among minority shareholders (2,361% ).
    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 21 October 2014 17: 33
      0
      Another confirmation of the destructiveness of the economic course of our current government and its inability to cope with the problems that have arisen today.
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    7. Vorlon
      Vorlon 21 October 2014 18: 10
      +5
      I respect Anatoly Wasserman as a lot of people who remember. But he again (or again!) Repeats the myth of oil prices. Understand that the people did not have oil under Stalin (they lived by their own labor, they did not buy wheat, plants worked). When Khrushchev began to buy. Under Hunchback, everything was lost. There is one conclusion.
      PS Who now lives happily in the west? Answer: Humpbacked.
    8. Alekseev
      Alekseev 21 October 2014 18: 31
      +3
      Quote: Funnels
      Everything is simple and easy to understand.

      Wasserman is very smart.
      But almost the same thing was said the other day by comrade. Minister Ulyukaev, and in March 2014, VTB Bank President Andrei Kostin announced the need to switch to rubles in export settlements: “Russia should sell domestic products - from weapons to gas and oil - for rubles and buy goods also for rubles. Then we will take full advantage of the advantages that the ruble gives us as a convertible currency, ”the banker suggested.
      Those. the powers that be (financial) completely allow such a passage. yes
      Some representatives (Sechin and others) say that, they say, it is difficult, that they say, the contract is in dollars, etc. etc.
      But you can allow first wrap up oil, gas, weapons and, in general, everything in rubles.
      To organize a perfectly debugged technique for exchanging non-cash currency, and later to start accepting only rubles.
      So much for the dramatic decrease in the dependence of the ruble on movements in the western commodity markets!
    9. shtanko.49
      shtanko.49 21 October 2014 19: 20
      +2
      God bless your words.
    10. Siberian German
      Siberian German 22 October 2014 19: 02
      +1
      Mlyn -Anatole is beautiful as always - it’s immediately clear that a person’s brain is sawing - which they won’t take him to the government
    11. Madcape
      Madcape 23 October 2014 17: 55
      +1
      I will say one thing that I was taught at the Higher School of Economics (I happened to be a student), then after going through a number of my life "universities" I will say that HSE does not teach economics at all, moreover, in fact, they teach not only erroneous, but also harmful "advice" - complete separation from reality in general!
  2. Bearded
    Bearded 21 October 2014 14: 59
    +5
    Someone, somewhere, sometimes we have ...... Everything is vague. There is no specifics with names and facts.
    1. zao74
      zao74 21 October 2014 15: 19
      +12
      Someone, somewhere, sometimes we have ...... Everything is vague. There is no specifics with names and facts.
      Are there any specifics?
      (like the Higher School for the Elimination of Economics)
      At work, I came across adherents of this "school". A true "fifth column". They are doing everything to destroy Russia.
      1. lg41
        lg41 21 October 2014 18: 36
        -1
        And can you more specifically? Surnames of these adepts. Situations.
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    3. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 21 October 2014 15: 23
      +9
      He who has ears - let him hear, he who has eyes - let him see.
    4. grog_bm
      grog_bm 21 October 2014 15: 36
      +15
      Talk about the facts ???
      1 Central Bank (Nabiulina & Co.) interest rate of refinancing 8% - EB (European Bank) 0,25%
      Fed (US Federal Reserve) 0,25%
      Question: Where is it cheaper to get a loan ???
      2 CBR stocks ~ 460 ml. yeah. approximately at the rate (today X 40 ~ 18,4 tr rubles), and in our country cash costs about 6 tr rubles - there is not enough money, in Russian, in circulation ...
      3 The Central Bank has banned the issuance of loans for the long term ...
      Well, in my opinion, this is enough to hang these grief of the liberals .. or in Russian - enemies of the state ... something like that ...
      And yet, it is necessary to give a vector that Wasserman does, and then look for yourself, read and understand ...
      Wasserman is beautiful !!
      1. nov_tech.vrn
        nov_tech.vrn 21 October 2014 15: 43
        +4
        vat killing the economy, sabotage in creating your own payment system, ... anyone can continue
      2. DRA-88
        DRA-88 21 October 2014 17: 28
        +7
        Quote: grog_bm
        Talk about the facts ???

        The main fact is that the Russian Federation lives according to colonial laws!
        Everything else is a consequence!
        Changing these laws (your vectors) is a revolution!
        Now there is only one question left: Revolution "from above" or "from below".
        Quote: grog_bm
        Well, in my opinion, this is enough to hang these grief of the liberals .. or in Russian - enemies of the state ..

        I agree with you + 100500, only you have to outweigh the whole system to the very top! yes
        1. Prophetic
          Prophetic 22 October 2014 13: 01
          -3
          What little blood has been shed in Russia over the past hundred years? Revolution? Again?! Russia will not survive another revolution, this is clear as God's day. Anyone who calls for a new revolution is either impassable and a bastard, or an enemy of Russia on the content of the Fed. Anyone who calls for new blood should be immediately put on the wall!
        2. tkhonov66
          tkhonov66 22 October 2014 15: 17
          0
          "...
          I agree with you + 100500, only you have to outweigh the whole system to the very top!
          ..."
          .
          - ABOUT!
          That is exactly FOR THIS - and APPOINTED US Ambassador to Russia - THE LEADING SPECIALIST on "color revolutions" ...
          - A man knows how to WORK!
          - what is the PROFESSIONAL ?!
          .
          Look - already on this site there are "geeks" who agree with the US Ambassador (to hang the entire system to the very top) - on all "+100500".
          .
          This is how it is necessary to make "color revolutions" in Russia
          8 - ((
          .
          .
          Or as Fox-Alice sang:
          "You don't need a knife for a fool!
          FALSE something to him (about the economy in which he is "no ear or snout")
          And do with him - WHAT YOU WANT! (take this BARAN to the Maidan - "outweigh everyone") "
          8 - ((
          .
          - Well, d-think, Ms. daada! gentlemen b-rams !!
          .
          And every BARAN, through thoughtlessness, wandered "to the Maidan",
          YES WILL BE CUT !!
          . and the torment of Ukraine - that is the guarantee.
          8- (
    5. ava09
      ava09 21 October 2014 16: 09
      0
      He didn’t print the conviction ...
    6. Genur
      Genur 21 October 2014 16: 21
      +1
      But does anyone say that it is necessary to overthrow the government? It is necessary to carry out a small surgical operation. The chief surgeon is the president.
      1. Userpic
        Userpic 21 October 2014 16: 48
        +8
        Quote: Genur
        The chief surgeon is the president.

        Following your analogy, the president is the main tumor - he proposed them, appointed, approved.
      2. Wheel
        Wheel 21 October 2014 22: 28
        +1
        Quote: Genur
        The chief surgeon is the president.

        So the main surgeon is in Belarus, and in Russia, ours is not even a therapist.
  3. Styx
    Styx 21 October 2014 15: 00
    +24
    Good girl, Wasserman, very nice to read and listen to, the language is just golden, very clear explains
    And for a long time questions have been raised about oil dependence, because three years ago they already said: only 20% of the country's income can be linked to it
  4. sledge
    sledge 21 October 2014 15: 00
    +5
    When will Putin disperse these traitors in the government? When will the real patriots be there already?
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 21 October 2014 15: 34
      +2
      according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, ONLY the State Duma has the right to "disperse" the government! so think gentlemen voters, whom we choose! can disperse the thought first?
      1. Userpic
        Userpic 21 October 2014 16: 17
        +7
        Quote: Sanya
        When will Putin disperse these traitors in the government? When will the real patriots be there already?
        Never.

        Quote: Victor Demchenko
        according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, ONLY the State Duma has the right to "disperse" the government!
        Have you read the constitution of which country?

      2. UralMan
        UralMan 21 October 2014 17: 05
        +1
        State Duma of the Russian Federation ... what to hide.
        Settled like spiders ...
      3. DRA-88
        DRA-88 21 October 2014 17: 35
        +7
        Quote: Viktor Demchenko
        according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, ONLY the State Duma has the right to "disperse" the government!

        Victor, Why are you misleading the People?
        1) The President of the Russian Federation has the right to independently decide on the resignation of the executive branch and dissolve the cabinet.
        2) 3) The State Duma can also initiate the resignation of the executive branch. If parliamentarians express no confidence in the government of the Russian Federation, the president has the right to dismiss the Cabinet of Ministers or disagree with the State Duma. However, if within three months the Duma expresses its mistrust again, the head of state will be obliged to either disband the government or dissolve the Duma itself. (here you don't have to count on a state idiot, this is not why she was "chosen" with such manipulations)
        There are 2 more conditions, but now they are not relevant hi
      4. Kindof
        Kindof 22 October 2014 00: 13
        +2
        Under paragraph c) of Article 83 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, the President
        decides on the resignation of the Government of the Russian Federation;
    2. mazhnikof.Niko
      mazhnikof.Niko 21 October 2014 15: 49
      +9
      Quote: Sanya
      When will Putin disperse these traitors in the government? When will the real patriots be there already?


      Never while the government forms GDP. Well, how can GDP disperse those who are appointed ?!

      GDP doesn’t surrender - they wrote it a hundred times.

      Hooray patriots - minuses in your hands!
      1. Mol
        Mol 21 October 2014 22: 10
        +2
        Heh, it has long been noticed that loyal subjects prefer to bypass topics where real economic problems of the state are discussed. For with foam at the mouth, yelling in patriotic ecstasy "hurray", "everything is WAY" is one thing, but competently, understandably and, most importantly, convincingly explain why the "fearless" and "independent" president-"patriot" still keeps mediocre ministers and advisers, and does not drive them with a filthy broom to hell (and does not even want to judge some of the thieves) is quite another thing. So they will not minus you much here. laughing Quite the contrary. There are also enough thinking people here. And it pleases.
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  5. pavel_SPB
    pavel_SPB 21 October 2014 15: 02
    +8
    And after all correctly speaks. These leberasts in the government were already stunned.
    1. Userpic
      Userpic 21 October 2014 16: 19
      +3
      Quote: pavel_SPB
      Zadolbali already these leberasts in the government.

      Surnames of liberals from the government please name.
  6. Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 21 October 2014 15: 02
    +21
    Anatoly Wasserman should sit in the government, and current ones in the government should just sit ...
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 21 October 2014 15: 42
      +1
      But he is ready to become the minister of education, not the economy.
      1. Petergut
        Petergut 21 October 2014 16: 03
        +4
        Quote: Gardamir
        But he is ready to become the minister of education, not the economy.


        It would be nice.
        Under Onotol, this would really be a ministry of education, and not a ministry of the USE and the Bologna system.
      2. sergey261180
        sergey261180 21 October 2014 16: 19
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        But he is ready to become the minister of education, not the economy.

        The Minister of Education has been working for 25 years. Minister of Economics for the short term.
      3. DRA-88
        DRA-88 21 October 2014 17: 42
        +2
        Quote: Gardamir
        But he is ready to become the minister of education, not the economy.

        Katasonov, Gerashchenko, Maslyukov must be involved in the economic bloc!
        1. Petergut
          Petergut 21 October 2014 19: 33
          +2
          Quote: DRA-88
          Quote: Gardamir
          But he is ready to become the minister of education, not the economy.

          Katasonov, Gerashchenko, Maslyukov must be involved in the economic bloc!


          Good day, Vladlen.

          Unfortunately, Yury Maslyukov has not been with us for more than 4 years (I’m sure that you were talking about him).
          Victor Gerashchenko is a man of very advanced years and is unlikely to be able to actively engage in practical economics.
          However, with all my personal respect for these, no doubt large-scale personalities, I believe that their experience was unlikely to help in today's realities. I repeat, this is an exclusively personal opinion.

          Valentin Katasonov is colossal. I have been reading it for many years.
          But, again, in my opinion, his place is at the head of a serious analytical group of economists who set the development strategy for years (or even generations) ahead. His ideas are too idealistic and little realizable today. He is a block of scientific thought, no less, but still not a practitioner.

          But who I would like to see as the head of the economic component of the Russian state is Sergey Glazyev. He is relatively young, educated, independent and has his own beliefs that I understand and that I like. Yes, not enough practical experience, but this is a business.

          IMHO.
          Regards, Peter.
          1. DRA-88
            DRA-88 21 October 2014 22: 01
            +1
            Hello Peter! hi
            Quote: Petergut
            Unfortunately, Yury Maslyukov has not been with us for more than 4 years (I’m sure that you were talking about him).

            This is so unfortunately ... But I mentioned him as an example of a professional!
            And from the persons I have listed, you can create a curatorial advisory council!
            Thank you.
  7. kompotnenado
    kompotnenado 21 October 2014 15: 03
    +21
    That's interesting, Wassemran understands this, Kasatonov understands, I understand. Why doesn't the government understand? Or are the enemies of the people? Where are you, Joseph Vissarionitch?
    1. Tartar
      Tartar 21 October 2014 15: 29
      -2
      Quote: kompotnenado
      ... Where are you, Joseph Vissarionitch?

      And where are our brave officers? Can't they really help Putin cleanse the various branches of government? What, Vova in one helmet should rake?
    2. Kostyar
      Kostyar 21 October 2014 15: 35
      +7
      Quote: That's interesting, Wassemran understands this, Kasatonov understands, I understand. Why doesn't the government understand? Or are the enemies of the people? Where are you, Joseph Vissarionych?

      What are you talking about, even if rusty Chubais is still alive, healthy and prosperous !!!
    3. arch_kate3
      arch_kate3 21 October 2014 15: 37
      0
      It seems that he (Joseph) is already nearby somewhere ... looking closely, recording, remembering ...
  8. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 21 October 2014 15: 03
    +11
    Yes, Wasserman, as always, is at his best: there is only one conclusion that suggests itself, urgently to dismiss from the economic bloc of the Government of Russia the “fosterlings” of the HES so-called. "children" of the Gaidar-Chubais liberal-treacherous mosquito! He who does not fight for the economic independence of the country is a traitor and enemy of the people and the future of our Russia!
    1. Userpic
      Userpic 21 October 2014 16: 23
      +3
      Quote: kartalovkolya
      only one conclusion suggests itself, urgently to dismiss from the economic bloc of the Government of Russia the "fosterlings" of the HES so-called. "children" of the Gaidar-Chubais liberal-treacherous mosquito!

      So who's stopping you? Get fired.

      That's just to dismiss them, you first have to fire the incumbent president, but for some reason you do not want to.
      1. Nicanor
        Nicanor 21 October 2014 23: 17
        +2
        something tells us that the dormant one will take the place of ... (more precisely, acting, with a minus sign).
      2. Prophetic
        Prophetic 22 October 2014 13: 32
        0
        Bravo, Mr. provocateur! Fed applauds you! Putin is also across their throats. To whom will we change? Can you name a specific surname?
  9. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 21 October 2014 15: 05
    +7
    In simple terms, this is an impudent, shameless sabotage, which has already come to deal specifically with, otherwise we will cry bitterly.
  10. Begemot
    Begemot 21 October 2014 15: 06
    +3
    All the same, clever Wasserman, at the root of the audience.
    To this phrase
    financial policies that impede the development of any kind of production;
    I would also add "legislative policy".
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 21 October 2014 16: 15
      +1
      Quote: Begemot
      I would also add "legislative policy".

      I would add a conceptual policy.
  11. SeAl2014
    SeAl2014 21 October 2014 15: 06
    +5
    So, what conclusion?
    Change the government.
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    2. UralMan
      UralMan 21 October 2014 17: 18
      +2
      NO.
      Before tackling -
      Russian Institute for Strategic Studies (RISI) is a large research and analytical center established by the President of the Russian Federation
      And then - the Ministry of the Russian Federation
      And the State Duma of the Russian Federation-to shake to work.
      ASK NECESSARY FOR AFFAIRS.
      NOT WASTE BONES.
      FIRST BIG - PLANT.
      And who will dismiss everyone there themselves will figure it out-THIS is not our business.
      IMPORTANT RESULT.
      ONLY WITHOUT REVOLUTION AND BLOOD STARTING.
    3. No. 4№y
      No. 4№y 21 October 2014 20: 26
      0
      Yeah, sewed on soap.
  12. Ober.K
    Ober.K 21 October 2014 15: 06
    +8
    Well said!!! Fine!!! I even declined to comment !!! laughing
    Quote: Mama_Cholli
    Anatoly Wasserman should sit in the government, and current ones in the government should just sit ...
  13. Horly
    Horly 21 October 2014 15: 08
    +12
    By the way, I have long noticed that our media oh how they do not like to remember the premiership of Yevgeny Maximovich Primakov! But it was precisely thanks to him that Russia did not fall apart ... And his role in the history of Russia, I hope, will be appreciated very soon! And Anatole - well done! One of the few who can explain complex things in a simple, understandable language!
  14. APS
    APS 21 October 2014 15: 08
    +4
    Import substitution with replacement for our Russian production and under our control!
  15. Grbear
    Grbear 21 October 2014 15: 09
    +9
    Moreover, these people do not even understand the simplest basics of the economy.

    Moreover, Anatoly, they perfectly understand everything and are called compradors, who are "squeezed" by any state, if it exists for its citizens. Otherwise, citizens are "meat" for the oligarch, and the state is a means for "preparing" the same citizens for "consumption."
  16. htlernjh
    htlernjh 21 October 2014 15: 10
    +3
    So do not tolerate. Take it do it, just without looking back. Why are you all so fearful, controversial? Do we have Power (?), Is Power? Or is it just self-governance? ?! You just need to answer this question. If it were power, that is, a force capable of imposing its will on third parties, then any question would not be a question (problem) at all. As under Stalin, everything was decided quickly without looking back. Our so-called, I apologize, governing bodies (Government, etc.) are more likely to resemble local governments, (see the law on local government of the Russian Federation) i.e. those bodies that resolve issues of LOCAL significance in accordance with applicable law. It remains to answer the question whose legislation is this?
  17. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 21 October 2014 15: 10
    -1
    Someone always interferes with us, now there are "traitors" in the government, who will interfere tomorrow?
  18. Stanislas
    Stanislas 21 October 2014 15: 10
    +4
    Brilliantly! Brevity is the soul of wit. Onotole is not only erudite, but also smart and talented.
  19. Denis fj
    Denis fj 21 October 2014 15: 10
    +3
    From dollars in the "gold-currency reserves" of countries, everyone has long dreamed of giving up!

    The USA will NEVER be able to pay off its debts - this whole filthy "country" with all its guts is not worth this money !!!
    The dollar, in fact, is an unsecured and worthless cheesy piece of paper.

    This currency needs to be replaced with some other reserve currency ... but which one?
    Euro, pound, franc, yuan, yen?
    ... But they, as well as the ruble, are 60-90% "provided" with a shitty heap of these trashy green papers !!!

    The country's reserves must be secured not by "gold-currency", but by "gold reserves"!
    What other liquid and compact goods can replace gold ???

    The world reserve currency can only be the currency of that country, which will be at least dependent on the dollar.
    1. INVESTOR
      INVESTOR 21 October 2014 15: 26
      +1
      The dollar, in fact, is an unsecured and worthless cheesy piece of paper.

      throw me all these pieces of paper! fellow give the card number?
      1. Styx
        Styx 21 October 2014 17: 03
        +4
        laughing Can I have a parcel? Will $ 22 and $ 153 banknotes go? And then I can also draw $ 217. I'm generally good at painting, so how much do you need to paint? The minus is not mine, I can’t participate in ratings on the phone at all recourse
        1. INVESTOR
          INVESTOR 21 October 2014 18: 32
          0
          You better buy these evil dollars and send them to me, and here I will recycle them fellow
        2. Demob 2012
          Demob 2012 21 October 2014 23: 27
          +2
          If things are going to develop like this year, then in a couple of years you can buy a bucks for a ruble. So save bucks, and I will save rubles fool
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    2. machine
      machine 21 October 2014 15: 41
      +6
      Quote: denis fj
      but a "gold reserve"!

      Denis, you are right about the dollar, but wrong about gold. Currency d / w is provided with goods / services that can be bought for it. This includes gold and oil and so on. Currency gold backing is a dangerous game that slows down the development of the economy, because it will be necessary to constantly provide N-th amount of gold, because "gold security" means that the state will not be able to print money in the required amount until it provides it with gold, but if the economy grows, then the cash flow increases, but the growth of the economy and the growth of the gold reserve do not always correlate, and if and correlate, it is not proportional.
    3. No. 4№y
      No. 4№y 21 October 2014 20: 37
      -1
      I offer to the DPRK.
  20. 3vs
    3vs 21 October 2014 15: 12
    +1
    So, friends, let's move Natolia into advisers to GDP somehow!
  21. progressor73
    progressor73 21 October 2014 15: 13
    +2
    Well laid out!
  22. s30461
    s30461 21 October 2014 15: 16
    +10
    Quote: Horly
    By the way, I have long noticed that our media oh how they do not like to remember the premiership of Yevgeny Maximovich Primakov! But it was precisely thanks to him that Russia did not fall apart ... And his role in the history of Russia, I hope, will be appreciated very soon! And Anatole - well done! One of the few who can explain complex things in a simple, understandable language!

    Primakov in an honorable reservation. Although the prime minister was not better and probably will not be. He has his own cockroaches and skeletons, but the economic policy that he led in 98g. just saved the country. Health failed, after all, for years. And the head is bright.
    Primakov, Glazyev, Bolshov — that is who should work now in the government, and not a liberal mold. Vladimir Vladimirovich!!! TIME !!!
    1. 00105042
      00105042 21 October 2014 16: 14
      +4
      Quote: s30461
      Glazyev, Bolshov — that’s who should work in the government now, and not liberal mold.
      By the way, Glazyev had a very revealing drive when he was at the TsEMI AN Russia- * DOES NOT TAKE * (in the sense of bribes), an impeccably honest and smart person.
  23. Ronino
    Ronino 21 October 2014 15: 18
    +3
    There is logic, facts, analytics!
    When will the conclusions be?
    When will the action be?
    1. tkhonov66
      tkhonov66 22 October 2014 15: 06
      0
      "...
      Moreover, these people do not even understand the simplest basics of the economy. They, for example, do not understand that any currency is ultimately provided with all goods and services that can be purchased directly for it, without resorting to the intermediary role of other currencies. Instead, they (in the spirit of the so-called Washington Consensus, which describes the conditions that developed countries have for developing countries to delay their development and thereby prevent competition from them) insist that the ruble should be provided only with stocks of other currencies - not goods and services.
      ..."
      .
      - and you call this "facts and analytics"? !!!
      8- (
      .
      This is not "analytics" - but some kind of "ideological-shamanic" KAMLANIA ...
      Well, sort of like: "A person MUST be rich and healthy, not poor and sick" ...
      - well, let's say that "must" ... But the main burning question remains - AND HOW? !!! - and not a word about SIE in the article. One continuous "obligations" and accusations of "economic illiteracy".
      - so maybe the respected "Wasserman" shouldn't "go-to-count-work ..." - but "it's better to turn to yourself" ?!
      8-))
      .
      - Well, how can you "insist" - "what should be provided for the ruble" - if the VALUE of the RUBLE is really determined ON THE MARKET? !!!
      - and it is the balance of the DEMAND and the OFFER of the ruble - and determines its value!
      why don’t you provide him!
      .
  24. Alexander
    Alexander 21 October 2014 15: 19
    +1
    Quote: SeAl2014
    So, what conclusion?
    Change the government.


    On whom? If you have not noticed, then the same people are in power, they just change places. And Putin became prime minister a year after the default. Apparently, Wasserman credits him with the economic recovery. But how is “import substitution” no less terrible word than “socialism” for “who is not afraid of terrible words like“ socialism ”and“ nationalization ”” of that prime minister now?
  25. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 21 October 2014 15: 20
    +7
    "The current oil rush of the ruble is an indicator that the economic block
    of our government, time after time, in the most diverse ways, it turns out
    main obstacle to economic development "////

    Wait, wait ... and who goes personally to sign the most important oil and gas
    projects? Who is at the head of this "economic bloc"?
    1. Cenij150814
      Cenij150814 21 October 2014 15: 42
      +4
      Quote: voyaka uh
      our government

      Thank you for your sincerity good
  26. SAM 5
    SAM 5 21 October 2014 15: 21
    +1
    Eh Tolyan, your words and our oligarchs in the ears.
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  27. pomeshkin.g
    pomeshkin.g 21 October 2014 15: 22
    0
    Wasserman to the government
  28. Dormidosha
    Dormidosha 21 October 2014 15: 24
    -2
    GDP is pulling with resignations, thereby raising the degree of dissatisfaction with Medvedev and K, so that in one fell swoop, they would demolish the whole riffraff (I really want to believe it) !!!!!
    1. mazhnikof.Niko
      mazhnikof.Niko 21 October 2014 16: 02
      +8
      Quote: Dormidosha
      GDP is pulling with resignations, thereby raising the degree of dissatisfaction with Medvedev and K, so that in one fell swoop, they would demolish the whole riffraff (I really want to believe it) !!!!!


      Lord Almighty - you cannot be so naive! It’s time to grow up, Comrade Captain!
  29. Executer
    Executer 21 October 2014 15: 28
    -10
    Put a minus to the author. If everything is so simple and intelligible and he is so smart, why doesn’t he head the economic bloc?
    1. roman_pilot
      roman_pilot 21 October 2014 15: 35
      +8
      Who will let him go there? There are already all posts divided.
  30. Motors1991
    Motors1991 21 October 2014 15: 30
    +6
    Complete nonsense. Anyone at this forum can give such advice and not only. Even the very last one will not mind that the industry of his own country needs to be developed. Only Wasserman, if so smart, for some reason does not give advice on how to achieve this, own industry developed so that money flowed not into the “hill”, but into the Russian capsule. If compared with the Soviet Union, energy exports in the Union at the peak occupied a modest 15% of all exports, therefore it could not provoke the destruction of the state, the reasons were internal first of all, the incompetence of the party leadership from top to bottom. In the Russian Federation, energy exports account for 72%, industry is in a deep decline, suffice it to say that the share of machine tools produced in the Russian Federation is only 9%, the rest is imports, and what will happen to it park in a few years. you can’t buy abroad - there is no money, but you don’t make your own. Wasserman is throwing everything at the economic block the block is SOMEONE higher, who himself picked them up and assigned them to posts over the past fifteen years, but he has nothing to do with it, all liberals brought the country to the pen. By the way, during the crisis of 2008, many began to complain to me. It became hard. In response, I laughed and said that my goats (I kept goats and much more) did not even suspect that you had a crisis. This is to the fact that if a self-sufficient model of the state was created in Russia, then the Russians would have laughed over the whole world, as we laughed at in the Soviet Union during the crisis of 1973-74, because production was working and the state did not sit on the petrodollar needle and this despite the fact that the Union had over-militarized industry.
    1. mazhnikof.Niko
      mazhnikof.Niko 21 October 2014 16: 18
      +1
      Quote: Motors1991
      I laughed in response and said that my goats (I kept goats and much more) did not even suspect that you had a crisis. This is to the fact that if a self-sufficient model of the state was created in Russia, then today Russians would have laughed at the whole world


      Shchaz! I, candidate honey. sciences, a field surgeon of the highest category, with 40 years of practice, I’ll go to breed goats!

      Nonsense!

      For now, the "goat breeders" will mock us - and so we will live!

      Hi Goats!
      1. Motors1991
        Motors1991 21 October 2014 17: 02
        +8
        When it was ready, after the revolution, the grand dukes in Paris worked as taxi drivers. So don’t promise, there are plenty of people with regalia. My idea is to produce our own product, milk, tractors, steamers, i.e. have our own developed domestic market , then the state is less dependent on external market conditions, and on prices on the world oil or metal market, because in life there is always a moment when they collapse for some reason. And then, dear candidate of medical sciences, you take a shovel and go to plant potatoes, I want to eat every day and regalia here help a little.
  31. Tartar
    Tartar 21 October 2014 15: 35
    +1
    In general, everything is correct, only the ruble is tied not just to oil revenues, but to foreign exchange reserves. Those. we are forced to accumulate huge reserves of dollars and euros, instead of buying these gigantic sums of money abroad. Thus, we lose hundreds of billions of dollars simply by freezing them in reserves.
    1. Vlad5307
      Vlad5307 21 October 2014 17: 06
      +5
      Thus, we simply credit the West with our production (accumulating currency, reserves), working not for our internal needs, but for what the West needs. The West needs from us, basically, natural resources. To develop the domestic market, trading resources not for the dollar, to make loans cheap in the long term for domestic investment in the development of Russia. The IMF policy prohibits developing countries from issuing domestic loans at low rates (the Russian Federation is developing for them), so everyone takes cheap loans over the hill. It is necessary to get rid of dependence on the IMF - the result of the desire of the Russian Federation in such a "benevolent" Western society. Therefore, we are buying gold, selling amer's obligations, and starting to trade not for "green". Well, we are making other steps - we will see how things will go, and while the West is not helping us well - we need tougher sanctions so that bankers and industrialists have nowhere to go, and think about the development of the internal market of the Russian Federation. I'm afraid the west will soon back down, realizing that it is pouring water into the Russian Mill! wink
    2. Vlad5307
      Vlad5307 21 October 2014 17: 58
      +3
      Quote: TarTar
      In general, everything is correct, only the ruble is tied not just to oil revenues, but to foreign exchange reserves. Those. we are forced to accumulate huge reserves of dollars and euros, instead of buying these gigantic sums of money abroad. Thus, we lose hundreds of billions of dollars simply by freezing them in reserves.

      we thereby simply simply support the Western economy, restraining their inflation and, in fact, lending to them. The industrialists are forced to take their own credits again in the west, in accordance with the terms of accession to the WTO and the rules of the IMF, which prohibit developing countries, to which they are ranked and the Russian Federation, to give cheap domestic credit, i.e. at low interest rates. Here is the result of luring the Russian Federation into the WTO by our liberals and the absence at that time of any intelligible explanation of the benefits to the WTO to society, as well as hushing up other points of view on this (and it is understandable why - the media are 90% controlled by liberals). Now it’s difficult to move away from it (the weight is already on its feet). The West helps us poorly - sanctions are very lenient. They must significantly tougher for business to understand how to make money and where !!! wink
  32. Balamyt
    Balamyt 21 October 2014 15: 37
    0
    Of course, the prime minister is not the whole government, BUT ......
    IPhone Dim urgently needs to be removed from the scene! He himself probably understands little of what he has to do ..... He selects a team for himself! While the GDP is beating on the world stage, this one poses with hostile gadgets!
    1. imugn
      imugn 21 October 2014 15: 53
      +5
      I agree about gadgets, and the economy is the simplest science of all, hardly Medvedev does not understand what he is doing
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  33. Stinger
    Stinger 21 October 2014 15: 38
    +6
    Yes. This is true. And the "Higher School of Economic Liquidation" - to the very point.
  34. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 October 2014 15: 47
    +6
    Anatoly, as always, is strictly to the point. A self-sufficient country with one of the largest reserves in the world, a working and quite literate population shakes like an aspen leaf in front of the inflated speculative course of the "green wrapper".
  35. arch_kate3
    arch_kate3 21 October 2014 15: 50
    -3
    Not so simple! We do not know the balance of power in the government. Everywhere - the "human factor" is present and dictates its illogical laws ... It is possible that everything in the old team is so intertwined that renewal is possible only by a complete change of everyone, and this is difficult and dangerous ...
  36. Gardamir
    Gardamir 21 October 2014 15: 50
    +5
    and imagine in the next election, your favorite GDP will propose Dmitry Anatolyevich. And you will vote.
    1. Cenij150814
      Cenij150814 21 October 2014 17: 13
      +6
      And of course, they will vote because this is a "cunning plan of the PU".
    2. Balamyt
      Balamyt 21 October 2014 19: 33
      +1
      But the pipes! I’ll step on the throat of my own song, and only AGAINST!
  37. BFG9000
    BFG9000 21 October 2014 15: 52
    -5
    Ehehe. Here I read some comments - purely kindergarten. Wasserman is good at quiz shows. Do not confuse erudition with narrow professionalism in a certain field. Therefore, it is interesting to read it, but save us from Internet scholars in the Government.
    Next, what can Primakov be like now? What are you talking about ?? yyyyyy

    This is all at the level of the satirist Mikhail Zadornov, who suddenly became a "linguist". Ears wither to listen to his nonsense about "u-Ra" and so on.
    As another no less well-known satirist said - "it is necessary to be more careful ..."
    1. arkady149
      arkady149 21 October 2014 16: 21
      +5
      Quote: BFG9000
      This is all at the level of the satirist Mikhail Zadornov, who suddenly became a "linguist".

      A Zadornov M.N. and does not pretend to be the truth of first instance, he only draws the attention of us and historians and linguists to coincidences that seem to him not accidental.
      In the satire represented by you M. Zhvanetsky, the evil and destructive, even spiteful, component was incomparably greater, judging by his speeches of the 80s. And lastly, I strongly doubt that a "narrow-minded" specialist, without a broad outlook, can fully assess the consequences of his "brilliant" decisions Gaidara-Chubais-Yasin example, if only to consider them not as direct enemies, but as specialists consistently building the liberal economy.
      1. BFG9000
        BFG9000 21 October 2014 16: 49
        -3
        If Zadornov thinks it is necessary to be baptized :) but for now he carries desperate nonsense on the topic of "coincidences". This can be regarded as humor on the topic, nothing more, to analyze seriously these attempts of his - just disrespect for science.

        Well, what about Zhevanetsky. Why is destructive? What is destructive in stating the fact that the technological level of our pharmaceutical industry was low? And in general, I don’t remember something good satire. Remember the works of Saltykov-Shchedrin. I think that at the time of the officials the overcoats in the pipe were curled up with anger at the author.

        And as for narrow-mindedness, I’ll answer you this. When you need to fly on an airplane, do you prefer a narrow-minded specialist pilot with a narrow horizons or fly with a scholar Wasserman at the helm? If you want, you can continue the series - a surgeon, a bus driver, a navigator on a ship, an engineer ...
        And of course, it is possible to appoint wide-profile scholars as ministers, not a problem.
        Where is the logic?
        1. arkady149
          arkady149 21 October 2014 17: 41
          +4
          I myself work hl. an engineer at a small enterprise, specializing in instrumentation and automation, and I understand a little the difference between a good specialist and a narrow-minded brain-fornication. Once again, not every specialist can comprehensively evaluate the consequences of his actions.
          1. BFG9000
            BFG9000 21 October 2014 17: 55
            -2
            Right. Just do not mix unmiscible :) It's one thing a narrow special hard worker or a linear engineer. Another thing is a narrow special at the level of the Minister of Economy. There you need to understand a lot of things besides the economy, I tell you as a person with 3 entities :)
        2. BFG9000
          BFG9000 21 October 2014 17: 52
          0
          Judging by the minuses, someone is not afraid of flying with Wasserman at the helm :) but essentially there is something to answer?
          1. arkady149
            arkady149 21 October 2014 20: 13
            0
            And we argue that sweeter, square or purple. Cons are not mine.
            1. BFG9000
              BFG9000 21 October 2014 23: 04
              0
              As for the square and purple, perhaps true :). And as for the minuses, I did not appeal to you, but to the progressive public. True, she preferred not to get out of the dusk))
        3. Prophetic
          Prophetic 22 October 2014 15: 07
          0
          Quote: BFG9000
          seriously, his attempts are simply disrespect for science

          Science? Which one? Is linguistics a science? Maybe a story? You would first decide on the very concept of "science" before writing nonsense. These disciplines are only called sciences, in reality they have nothing to do with them. According to the modern "science" of history, Russians were dark and uneducated barbarians, whose writing was given by Cyril and Methodius. And the Novgorod letters show that writing existed long before these brothers and was much more widespread in Russia than in Europe. Excavations in Germany show that these lands were inhabited by civilized Slavs, but were driven from there to the east by the dark, but vicious tribes of the ancient Germanic barbarians.
          Quote: BFG9000
          Well, what about Zhevanetsky. Why destructive
          I don’t understand how it’s possible not to see that literally every speech of a Jew Zhvanetsky was based on pouring mud over all Soviet, all Russian. The USSR collapsed and where is Zhvanetsky? But not him, blown away. There was nothing to pour mud on, because the Jews came to power in 90's. Again. Like in 20's. What, human vices have disappeared? Has the gap between the rich and the poor narrowed? They began to steal less? Well, where is he, your Zhvanetsky? Where is his satire against the oligarchs? He was a master of allusions and half-hints. And when it became possible to speak openly, it turned out that the man had nothing to say. Except how to continue to pour mud on the Russian people. And people are tired of dirt. Let them look at themselves.
          Quote: BFG9000
          What is destructive in stating the fact that the technological level of our pharmaceutical industry was low?
          And what is this nonsense ?! Not tall compared to what? My dear, yes 95% of drugs sold in the USSR were produced on the territory of the USSR or the social camp! And at the same time they were an order of magnitude cheaper than their Western counterparts, while having an order of magnitude less funding for development. Under Stalin, we were the second country in the world to discover and start mass-producing antibiotics! And now we do not produce 10%! We can’t even establish the production of insulin! And where is your Zhvanetsky? Is silent. So the point is not in the vices, as such, but in the one to whom they belong.
          1. BFG9000
            BFG9000 22 October 2014 17: 46
            0
            oooh a lot of text, it pleases))
            1. Not only pleasing pearls. Just linguistics is a science, and they distinguish between fundamental and applied linguistics. And linguistics, unlike history, is an objective science, you cannot rewrite it in hindsight. And where does the Novgorod letters are intertwined? some germans? :) not if you think that the ancient Novgorodians glorified the god Ra (according to Zadornov), so tell me, I’ll turn off the debate :)
            2. I, as an internationalist, do not accept such a word as a Jew. I believe that determining nationality by blood is Nazism. What does this lead to - see Ukraine. And in general, why did they cling to Zhevanetsky? I used his quote, but that does not mean that I am crazy about him. There is nothing to pull one phrase out of context and then criticize it with rapture. The answer for yourself on the main thing - should a satire not be evil?
            3. Let's do without strong words like "nonsense" and "nonsense". What you write about the distribution of production in the USSR does not say anything about the level of technology. So this is not an argument at all. Give a good example when we mass-produced goods at a high technological level. Only without leavened patriotism and shapkozakidatelstva. We are all here patriots of our country, so we need to face the truth, and not hide from uncomfortable questions and not distort.
  38. gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 21 October 2014 15: 54
    +2
    [quote = Balamyt] Of course, the prime minister is not the whole government, BUT ......
    The iPhone maker Dima urgently needs to be removed from the scene!

    I agree! It looks like our "electronic friend" has worked out the remaining motor resource ... And the author - as always, respect!
  39. mdwspb
    mdwspb 21 October 2014 16: 01
    +3
    Anatoly, as always, is simple, beautiful and convincing!
  40. arkady149
    arkady149 21 October 2014 16: 08
    +1
    the libertarian - promising the beneficence of unlimited economic freedom of the individual without any regard for society (and among extreme libertarians - even with a denial of the very existence of society) - a creed.
    Precisely creeds, with their "apostles", the invisible "hand of the market" and rituals at all kinds of international forums and other sabbaths under the shadow of the HSE vaults and other related religious organizations.
  41. mch1950
    mch1950 21 October 2014 16: 14
    +4
    And there was a deep economy,
    That is, he knew how to judge,
    As the state grows rich,
    And what lives, and why
    He does not need gold,
    When a simple product has.
    This was written by the greatest poet of mankind, the Russian man A.S. Pushkin.



    Source: http://pushkin.niv.ru/pushkin/text/evgenij-onegin/onegin_1.htm
  42. severbob
    severbob 21 October 2014 16: 16
    -1
    the bourgeoisie has long laid eyes on the cordon and in Russia chains will not help a bribe
  43. Drunya
    Drunya 21 October 2014 16: 18
    +1
    Echo of the Week 14.10.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX
  44. Masterzserg
    Masterzserg 21 October 2014 16: 19
    0
    I see ... Putin and the government are to blame. It is necessary to overthrow the king, who obstructs robots, inventors, innovators, and then we will all be in chocolate. Like in Ukraine. Let's go and get some vodka and analyze paving stones on Red Square. All the problems are in it: paving stones and the ever-damaging government! But first, vodka!
  45. gregor6549
    gregor6549 21 October 2014 16: 31
    +3
    The question, as always, rests on "who benefits from this?" And it is beneficial for those who, using their administrative resources, receive the maximum profit from this situation. Those. the entire vertical of power from top to bottom. including the highly respected (so far) comrade Putin and no less respected (also so far) t Medvedev, and not excluding other members of this vertical, whose name is legion and the oligarchs who have joined them, who are also (so far) in favor with those in power. I hope that in years that way in ..tsat my words will be fully confirmed. But won't it be too late?
  46. dgm
    dgm 21 October 2014 16: 40
    +2
    Anatoly Vaserman still in the Premiere is necessary. There will be much more benefits !!!!
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 21 October 2014 17: 04
      +5
      God forbid. Already there were theoreticians in power. The same Gaidar. After all, a stupid and very savvy man was. But being smart and being able to lead a state are two big differences. Previously, in order to get to the leadership, it was not just a country, but an industry that had to go through many turns of a career spiral. And not everyone got to the top of this spiral. And the last one. Wasserman as the ruler of Russia is the same nonsense as Khodorkovsky and other wiseacres with a specific pedigree. The maximum that he can claim is the role of a consultant with ..... But he is already a consultant. Another thing is how much his advice as a consultant reaches those who make the decision. But this is not his misfortune, but ours
  47. Gogia
    Gogia 21 October 2014 16: 58
    +3
    Macroeconomics is a very complex thing. Roughly speaking, this is a system of 10 equations with 12 unknowns. The fall in the ruble exchange rate has both negative and positive consequences. The size of the fall determines the balance between "good" and "evil". It has long been said that the saving by Kudrin and other monetarists of Russian reserves in bonds at 1,2% per annum is absurd. If our banks were given these funds at 3%, the profit would be more noticeable, and the financial system would be locked on itself, and not on loans from Eurobanks and BONY. Therefore, comrades, invest your free reserves in industrial production and small business !!! After a few years, wool can be cut unmeasured !!!
    1. Makarov
      Makarov 21 October 2014 17: 09
      0
      Reading all volumes of the "Economics" turns both micro- and macroeconomics into understandable things)))
  48. Andrea
    Andrea 21 October 2014 17: 06
    +1
    Medvedev did not inspire confidence, like a president (games with time, etc., etc.), how did you even have the courage to kick Georgians from Ossetia? Why Putin appointed him prime minister, I don’t know. Not fish, not meat. holds back for the future for another castling, but when will it be? He will ruin everything. With our ministers, "lisping" will not pass, brute force is needed: kicks and control, control and kicks.
  49. pahom54
    pahom54 21 October 2014 17: 06
    +3
    "The current oil rush of the ruble is an indicator that it is the economic bloc of our government that, over and over again, in the most diverse ways, turns out to be the main obstacle to economic development."

    Everything is correct ... and everyone understands this ...
    By the way, I haven’t heard anything about Yevgeny Primakov for a long time ... These very wise men, even at the age of time, should be taken as consultants and advisers ...
    How to remove THESE and how to put new, smart, energetic and, most importantly - patriots of your country ??? Unfortunately, it seems to me that at this stage this is an insoluble problem ...
  50. Makarov
    Makarov 21 October 2014 17: 08
    +4
    Unfortunately, now the economic bloc of the government consists exclusively of people for whom "import substitution" is no less a terrible word than "socialism" (C) is beautiful ... I would put it more simply in the words of one writer: "Terrarium of like-minded people" ...