Los Angeles Times: Ukrainian Armed Forces in Poor State

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Los Angeles Times: Ukrainian Armed Forces in Poor State
The Los Angeles Times newspaper published an article about the current state of the Ukrainian army, informing its readers that over the past 8 months, the Minister of Defense 3 has been replaced in Ukraine - last week Stepan Poltorak was appointed to this post.

Los Angeles Times: Ukrainian Armed Forces in Poor State


"After gaining independence, the part of the once formidable army that Ukraine got" rotted from above ", - quotes an excerpt from the RIA article "News".

The permanent strength of the Ukrainian army after the collapse of the USSR in 1991 was about 1 a million people. Over twenty years, it has dropped to 100 thousand. But, as analysts say, and these data are too high. According to journalists, when an armed conflict began in the east of the country, the then Minister of Defense of Ukraine Igor Tenyukh said that 6 had thousands of servicemen ready for battle.

In addition, funding for the Ukrainian armed forces has been reduced several times. According to the Defense Ministry, for the 2013 of the year, the army received 1.9 a billion dollars, but only 10% of these funds went for modernization. The last large-scale maneuvers Ukraine held 9 years ago.

Since 1991, the troops have not received a single combat aircraft, in the country's air force there are up to three dozen fighters and a small number of obsolete helicopters, although in the Soviet period it was part of the air force fleet there were about 1.5 thousand aircraft.

The tragedy near Ilovaisk revealed the terrible condition of the armed forces of Ukraine - the soldiers thrown into battle were poorly armed and starved, the newspaper notes.
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  1. +7
    20 October 2014 10: 11
    Gay Motrya, tell everyone that they don’t feed us here! laughing

    "Saint Bandera" ... gee ..
    1. +6
      20 October 2014 10: 16
      A people who do not want to feed their army, very soon begins to feed a foreign army - Napoleon. Apparently, Ukrainians will soon have to engage in feeding a foreign army.
      1. +8
        20 October 2014 10: 21
        Nah, they demand that they all be fed laughing , in vain did Nuland bring cookies belay
        1. +12
          20 October 2014 10: 33
          Quote: nikrandel
          Nah, they demand that they all be fed, in vain that Nuland brought cookies
          The whole country, like a boy, is bad, and a freebie has already become the national idea of ​​Ukraine.
      2. +9
        20 October 2014 10: 28
        The tragedy near Ilovaisk revealed the terrible condition of the armed forces of Ukraine - the soldiers thrown into battle were poorly armed and starved, the newspaper notes.
        ...
        These guys from the Los Angeles Times forgot to add the main thing in this sentence:
        - ... And then they were all killed ...
        So ... so that the western reader understands that the matter is not in the right rear support.
        And no matter how many bulletproof vests and sukhpays the United States sends to its Kiev puppets, this will not change anything Yes ... Those who snoop into New Russia will still be killed negative ... Because it’s useless to fight the local population - the locals are by definition stronger, because they stand for OWN ... and still win soldier !!!
        1. +1
          20 October 2014 11: 16
          The American reader is being prepared for the thought that the "army" is coming out, in fact, fighting against the 1.5 separatist bandit and simply had to win in 2 days, but the poor were poorly fed and dressed, so there are no victories. What is the moral superiority of the militia there ...
          1. 0
            20 October 2014 13: 56
            Rather, the article prepares for the idea that you need to send not only body armor. And to send weapons and people to "help the oppressed."
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      3. +2
        20 October 2014 10: 29
        Quote: Thought Giant
        Ukrainians


        Who are they?
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      5. 0
        20 October 2014 10: 47
        Tipun to your tongue. Let it be something like NATO with which Novorossia and Russia will conflict.
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  2. +10
    20 October 2014 10: 13
    That's it. How else are they going to go to Moscow? Yes, and destroy it. Clowns however ...
    1. +1
      20 October 2014 10: 17
      That's it. How else are they going to go to Moscow? Yes, and destroy it. Clowns however ...
      Poiti then they won’t go, but they are yelling to the heart.
    2. 0
      20 October 2014 10: 28
      Quote: stayer
      That's it. How else are they going to go to Moscow? Yes, and destroy it. Clowns however ...

      it is logical to assume that for the destruction of Moscow they were going to massively go to migrant workers
      and work badly.
    3. +3
      20 October 2014 10: 30
      they have a minister, the so-called defense sends troops to the north-south ... well, what can I say ... they are not like Moscow ... they even reached Rostov .... the maydaunas of the brain ... .
  3. +1
    20 October 2014 10: 14
    And it pleases...
  4. 0
    20 October 2014 10: 14
    "Discovered America!"
  5. +2
    20 October 2014 10: 15
    all this has long been understood except by the Ukrainians themselves.
  6. +17
    20 October 2014 10: 16
    The author of the article in The Times is directly Captain Obvious!))) The army of dill is currently an ephemeral concept. This rabble cannot be called an army either. Makhnovschina! Look at the commanders and immediately everything will become clear
    1. +4
      20 October 2014 10: 23
      This is cho for imbitsil wassat !? Semenchenko? Ali elf what?

      In general, it’s not an article, but directly firs in the ears of the inhabitants of Donbass. God grant! God grant!
      1. nvv
        nvv
        +1
        20 October 2014 10: 33
        Quote: SHILO
        In general, it’s not an article, but directly firs in the ears of the inhabitants of Donbass.

        And you do not relax. These are pre-election articles. And there .... We were appointed a new boss and we went home with this.
        1. +3
          20 October 2014 10: 50
          Quote: nvv
          And you do not relax.


          And I don’t relax.
          And ... and I don’t remember what we are at the Brudershaft You dear drank!
          1. nvv
            nvv
            +1
            20 October 2014 10: 56
            But aren't we fellow soldiers? For you, I’m with a foe. For three you are with the enemy.
            Quote: SHILO
            Quote: nvv
            And you do not relax.


            And I don’t relax.
            And ... and I don’t remember what we are at the Brudershaft You dear drank!
            1. +2
              20 October 2014 11: 13
              Quote: nvv
              Are we not fellow soldiers?


              Well ... until a fellow soldier with the nickname nvv was not. But! But this does not mean that it cannot appear! drinks
              1. nvv
                nvv
                +1
                20 October 2014 11: 19
                Already have. Victor. hi drinks
                1. +1
                  20 October 2014 12: 53
                  We will be familiar Yes hi
      2. avt
        +1
        20 October 2014 10: 43
        Quote: SHILO
        In general, it’s not an article, but directly firs in the ears of the inhabitants of Donbass. God grant! God grant!

        Well, in general, there is no need to delude ourselves - the military forces still have real potential and there are still quite enough ideological ones. The main thing is that the militias are really reformatted into a single, Novorossiysk army from partisan detachments led by field dads. It's time! Time is running out - that whoever is the first to create clear-cut army units, relying on a competently operating rear, will win. ”Truths, but confirmed for centuries.
    2. 0
      20 October 2014 10: 29
      Yes, Syndrome Downito
  7. +5
    20 October 2014 10: 16
    "was about 1 million people. In twenty years, it has dropped to 100 thousand."
    I don’t know, not a military theorist. And that the size of the army in some way affects its combat capability ?! Then 50 thousand Islamists put half the world on the ears. Judging by the numbers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, is it time to think about intergalactic wars ?!
  8. +2
    20 October 2014 10: 16


    WRITE DOWN! 1000 UAH per day!

    AHA .... recorded.
    1. +1
      20 October 2014 10: 21
      To many - at the graves ...
    2. 0
      20 October 2014 11: 58
      1000 hryvnia DAY - on the day of death, if relatives are able to prove that the fighter died in battle, somehow so probably.
  9. 0
    20 October 2014 10: 16
    Clowns are freaking !!!!!!!!
  10. +1
    20 October 2014 10: 16
    Previously, they hoped and counted on the Russian "umbrella", but as the freebie ended, they immediately requested NATO. Dream of an eternal freebie in the blood of dill!
  11. +1
    20 October 2014 10: 17
    Hey Los Angeles Times !!! Well, quickly give true information. Start with a Boeing shot down by a Ukrainian instant. And add about the stupid granny who collects bananas. Let the grandmother ask Putin what to do next and how to defuse the situation. laughing
  12. +1
    20 October 2014 10: 17
    It was necessary to continue to be friends with Russia and everything would be in openwork ....
    1. 0
      20 October 2014 12: 27
      Quote: Tartar 174
      It was necessary to continue to be friends with Russia and everything would be in openwork ....


      You had to love Russia. "If you can't love - sit and be friends!" (M. Zhvanetsky)
  13. +1
    20 October 2014 10: 18
    Such news cannot but rejoice, otherwise dill would be even bolder. Shows the essence of dill related to creation. We see only negative acts of theft, deception, forgery, robbery, looting.
  14. +2
    20 October 2014 10: 19

    Since 1991, the troops have not received a single combat aircraft, up to three dozen fighters and a small number of obsolete helicopters remain in the country's air force, although in the Soviet period there were about 1.5 thousands of aircraft in the military air force.
    Well, something like this ... Until recently, the Russian army was not up to par. Thank God Putin had the money and political will to keep and support it.
  15. +1
    20 October 2014 10: 20
    the Yankees again slander the "valiant" army of Ukraine. According to Kiev's plans, one of these days a parade should be held in Sevastopol, and in the future (a year, another) the banner of Ukraine over the Kremlin. bully
  16. +2
    20 October 2014 10: 26
    Los Angeles Times: Ukrainian Armed Forces in Poor State
  17. 0
    20 October 2014 10: 26
    The beginning of an epiphany or an attempt to put your new "friend" in a pose and not let you move? It is strange that with her intelligence, which even Merkel listened to, they did not know about the lack of purchases of aircraft since the times of the USSR.
  18. 0
    20 October 2014 10: 26
    oh yes, what is there to say! there is not and should not be such a country as usraina !!! country bankrupt !!! country with DEBILS in about the chapter who say "there is no gas and it's cold - get into a corner - there are 90 degrees" or as in childhood: "Jump and everything will pass" well, don't tell my slippers .... that and the DEBILS are sending troops to the north south ... in general ... brain cancer ... the swedomites are fucking ...
  19. +5
    20 October 2014 10: 27
    Well, of course, the Ukrainian army is not the top of combat effectiveness, but it should not be underestimated. For six months now, hostilities in Novorossia have been ongoing and its combat capability is growing slowly but surely. Yes, the materiel supply is disgusting fighting spirit, the command is illiterate, but there are enough shells to kill every day and soldiers learn quickly. Underestimating the enemy is the most stupid mistake in hostilities and sweeping hatred at least inappropriate. This army also, oh, how much blood will shed and take lives ...
  20. +2
    20 October 2014 10: 32
    Nothing has changed in dill since the Civil War - green, Old Man Makhno, Petlyura, Pan Ataman Tauride, and other valiant predators, for whom the main thing is to grab more, all in the hut. 1.5 thousand cars stolen in Donbass; they sell in central Ukraine without documents three times cheaper
  21. +2
    20 October 2014 10: 34
    Quote: Serge Mikhas
    Underestimating the adversary is the most stupid mistake in hostilities and sweeping hatreds are at least inappropriate. This army also, oh, how much blood will shed and take lives ...

    I agree with you ... They learn to fight and there is enough ammunition in warehouses (from the former USSR) for a long time to shell cities and towns from far away ... What are we doing now very actively ...
  22. 0
    20 October 2014 10: 35
    No, this is not an army, but a bunch of drug addicts, fascists, Bendera and other riffraff collected from the dens of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
  23. 0
    20 October 2014 10: 40
    The tragedy near Ilovaisk revealed the terrible condition of the armed forces of Ukraine - the soldiers thrown into battle were poorly armed and starved, the newspaper notes.

    Do not hren was to meddle in the Donbass. Ave shamed the country, and sit in the far west of the former Ukraine. The post-Soviet republics that lay under Washington lost their armies, no matter how they were armed and trained by A. mera. An example of this is Georgia, now U. Kropia.
  24. alikalik
    +1
    20 October 2014 10: 43
    The regular army is used as meat. After which mercenaries enter the battle. Known tactics. Modern Ukraine cannot be pulled a full-fledged army. So you need to turn to the oligarchs, let the armed formations recruit and maintain at their own expense. That's what they do.
  25. +1
    20 October 2014 10: 44
    If you rewind time and recall our army at the end of 90x and the beginning of 2000x, then it is not as funny as some commentators write. We could get to the same state, our state was lucky with the people (suffered), thanks to those soldiers and officers who laid down their lives, thanks to some generals (Kazantsev, Troshev ...) who did not allow the whole army to be ruined. And thanks to fate that gave us Putin, and Chubais at that time.
  26. 0
    20 October 2014 10: 47
    Ukraine is not able to maintain a full-fledged army. Therefore, so many punitive battalions of all stripes. Conscripts and contract soldiers use cannon fodder. Plus battalions of territorial defense from each region. Here and the entire Ukrainian army.
  27. +1
    20 October 2014 10: 51
    Quote: stayer
    That's it. How else are they going to go to Moscow? Yes, and destroy it. Clowns however ...


    Nah, they will go to Moscow only if we guarantee them feeding on the road and gasoline. The great principle is hohlohalyava, physiology of dill. stop
  28. 0
    20 October 2014 11: 04
    Good afternoon.
    Once again, one can be convinced of the correctness of the statement: "A people who do not want to feed their army will feed someone else's." The crisis in the army is one of the signs of the loss of sovereignty. I always want to say another six months and then it will be too late to correct the situation. In the case of the Ukrainian state, there is no half a year. The unity of Ukraine will be supported by its new "masters". The signs of complete degradation and loss of the state's forming foundation are obvious: complete paradigm change; a civil society torn to pieces; agents of influence formed the "supreme power" of the state; complete loss of social and political orientation among the citizens of the country; etc. There is no need to talk about economic independence and reanimation of the national economy.
    The joint activity of foreign agents of influence (fifth column) and ultra-patriots succeeded.
  29. 0
    20 October 2014 11: 11
    And it is encouraging
  30. +1
    20 October 2014 11: 11
    and when will they go to storm Moscow? Farion is tired of waiting!
  31. 0
    20 October 2014 11: 20
    This is so far pleasing. But any army, having drawn the right conclusions after the defeat, is growing stronger. So we need to keep our ears open!

    One thing that amazes me now is dill and civilians are hammering and hammering out of their artillery in the first place, and our glorious militias only choose snot! Really can not give a fitting rebuff? Make a raid to destroy artillery,
    I can’t use gliders, but I can borrow a couple of helicopters from the Russians and I can’t cut off the ballpeners by the best!
  32. 0
    20 October 2014 12: 14
    The tragedy near Ilovaisk revealed the terrible condition of the armed forces of Ukraine - the soldiers thrown into battle were poorly armed and starved, the newspaper notes.


    This shitty army will die in the first frost!
    Well, they knew on "scho povylys".
  33. 0
    20 October 2014 13: 59
    Ukroarmia today is generally a purely hohlyatskoe national misunderstanding ...

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