China has built a new spaceport on the island

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On the Chinese tropical island of Hainan, the construction of a new Wenchang cosmodrome has been completed, from which it is planned to launch heavy launch vehicles, the newspaper reports Look with reference to the People's Daily.

China has built a new spaceport on the island


“The advantages of the fourth Chinese cosmodrome are not only its higher technological equipment, but also its location in low latitudes. The proximity of the launch pad to the equator makes it easier to solve problems in bringing spacecraft into orbit, ”writes the Chinese edition. In total, the construction of the spaceport took five years.

The first launch of the Changzheng-5 (Great Walk) launch vehicle should be carried out in 2015. According to the publication, “this will be a serial universal multi-stage rocket capable of delivering loads of up to 25 tons into orbit”.

The article emphasizes that "the Wenchang cosmodrome will be key to the further implementation of China's ambitious space program." In addition to launching satellites, it will be used "to deliver components of the national space station to orbit and to carry out lunar missions." According to the plan, in 2017, the spacecraft Chang'e-5 will start from the cosmodrome, which “should automatically solve the problem of landing on the Moon and returning soil samples to Earth”. Around 2025, the Chinese expect to send a manned spacecraft to the moon.

Hainan Island is known as a tropical resort, popular among Russians. Nevertheless, the Chinese authorities are confident that the launch pad, being at a considerable distance from places of rest, will not prevent the tourist business. In addition, the missiles will use fuel that meets high environmental standards.
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    1. ISKANDER25
      +12
      18 October 2014 15: 37
      Hello! It’s worth a closer look at China !!!! hi
      Develop incredibly fast !!!
      1. +6
        18 October 2014 15: 39
        At such a pace of years, through 20-30, China can become the leading space superpower, leaving Russia and the United States far behind.
        1. +6
          18 October 2014 16: 08
          I would not say - despite the fast production, so far their satellites themselves are not very high-quality: many of the space missions ended in failure. But the guys are developing, no doubt.
        2. +5
          18 October 2014 16: 31
          At least in electronics, the pen has already been surpassed before this and digging! smile
          1. +6
            18 October 2014 16: 39
            And they also surpassed us. sad
            1. +1
              18 October 2014 19: 29
              And they also surpassed us. sad

              I wonder what they surpassed? Copy? laughing
              1. +1
                18 October 2014 22: 54
                - The speed with which copies are made into the final product.
              2. 0
                19 October 2014 01: 28
                At least by the fact that the carriers, having barely taken off the ground, do not fall from them.
                1. Silumin
                  0
                  19 October 2014 08: 48
                  Falling, we just don’t know about these cases.
          2. +3
            18 October 2014 18: 05
            Quote: alien50
            At least in electronics, the pen has already been surpassed before this and digging!

            This is you, not yet surpassed
          3. Silumin
            +1
            18 October 2014 21: 31
            At least in electronics, the pen has already been surpassed before this and digging!


            Apparently you are not familiar with purely Chinese electronics.
        3. The comment was deleted.
        4. +2
          18 October 2014 16: 48
          Quote: Colorado
          At such a pace of years, through 20-30, China can become the leading space superpower, leaving Russia and the United States far behind.

          And if there is no one to copy? laughing To become like the Chinese, you need to live on a handful of rice on the day of commercials for 30-40 years. Do we need it?
      2. +15
        18 October 2014 15: 49
        Alexander! hi
        The fact that China is developing by leaps and bounds is also our victory. At the moment, China is one of the main strategic partners of Russia. And Russia was striving for this, a little earlier than the USSR, to make a "scarecrow" for the United States. Of course, I understand that no matter how much the wolf is fed, he still looks into the forest, but at the moment China is another force that is inserting another wick into the ass of the United States and their licking. And the wick is not small ...
        1. 0
          18 October 2014 16: 07
          In fact, we feed our future ENEMY. I repeat the question - on whose territories will the large eastern neighbor turn their eyes when there will be no common enemy ??? And in the space sector it will be our very serious rival whom we will have to Catch up with. In all areas, we have to do it. I am not against cooperation with China, but the sale to the Han Su-27, Su-35 with engines, etc. etc. personally it seems to me the height of sucker.
          1. 0
            18 October 2014 20: 42
            Quote: Colorado
            In fact, we feed our future ENEMY.

            So we also feed China ??? Menu, please!
            1. 0
              18 October 2014 23: 39

              So we also feed China ??? Menu, please!

              I think it's about intellectual and technological recharge.
          2. 0
            18 October 2014 22: 59
            - Excuse me, but what, in our position, can we "tame" them?
            1. 0
              19 October 2014 09: 31
              Quote: dmit-52
              - Excuse me, but what, in our position, can we "tame" them?

              Animals are tamed, and China is an equal partner and denying this is great-power chauvinism! Remove the blinkers from the eyes.
        2. +10
          18 October 2014 16: 17
          I already mentioned that China never had allies and friends even with neighboring states. This huge country has been brewed in its own juice for centuries. Everything that happened or is happening did not give in and does not give in to any analysis or logic. How they generally managed to maintain statehood remains a question to this day. Nevertheless, today we have a powerful state, with a developed economy, a powerful, reformed army. But China has the same problem as Russia, the concentration of population and industry in relatively small territories (in China it is the south and south-west of the country), as the bulk of the country (approximately 60-70% of the territories) has a very low population density and which sometimes lacks at least some kind of industrial production. In the north, west and partly in the center of China, the population density does not exceed 50 people per km2, while the south and southwest are 800-900 people per km2.
        3. Seeker of truth
          +4
          18 October 2014 16: 39
          Quote: major071
          at the moment, China is another force that puts another wick in the ass of the United States and its licking

          What wick is there and to whom it is inserted, what are you talking about? Have you looked at their statistics with amer goods turnover? Asked how many cunning China stocked bucks in reserves? And how much he invests annually in the Indusian economy? I think no. It’s better to fantasize less and learn more about the mat part. The Chinas do, if not all, then much in order to support this very Amerian hegemony. It is understandable why, the seller of consumer goods is always profitable, good financial condition of the main buyer. crying
          1. +3
            18 October 2014 19: 20
            Quote: Seeker of Truth
            The Chinas do, if not all, then much in order to support this very Amerian hegemony. It is understandable why, the seller of consumer goods is always profitable, good financial condition of the main buyer.


            Now it’s also not profitable for them to put all their eggs in one basket. Therefore, they are actively buying gold, creating an alternative IMF BRICS Bank, trying to make deals with us for yuan and rubles ... In a weak Russia, they had no other option but to focus on the American dollar in its gold reserves ... And their policy has not changed for centuries. While the two tigers are fighting, a wise monkey sits and looks. So now they seem to be cooperating with us because we are weaker than the Americans so that we fight with them for mutual exhaustion and then, according to yet another eastern wisdom, which states "When two tigers fight, the prey goes to the monkey ..." they will fulfill their dream of the Great Chinese Dragon who will emerge victorious in the battle of world civilizations and will dictate their conditions
          2. 0
            18 October 2014 19: 35
            The Chinas do, if not all, then much in order to support this very Amerian hegemony. It is understandable why, the seller of consumer goods is always profitable, good financial condition of the main buyer. crying

            Do not rush to wishful thinking.
            1. 0
              18 October 2014 20: 43
              Barsik, heed the advice of the Seeker of Truth and see the trade between the United States and China. Then you will see where is "desired" and where is "real".
          3. +1
            18 October 2014 20: 50
            Quote: Seeker of Truth
            And how much he invests annually in the Indusian economy?

            Yes, they already bought half the country there! Soon Hollywood will be Chinese.
            Chinese conglomerate Dalian Wanda Group buys land in Los Angeles and intends to invest $ 1,2 billion in its development in order to subsequently enter the Hollywood film industry. In 2012, a Chinese conglomerate bought for $ 2,6 billion one of the largest US movie theater owners - AMC Entertainment Holdings Inc. (AMC).
          4. +2
            18 October 2014 22: 54
            Quote: Seeker of Truth
            The Chinas do, if not all, then much in order to support this very Amerian hegemony.

            The Chinese are forcing Americans to transform from an industrialized country into an oil-producing one. China has already crossed the line of consumer goods.
          5. 0
            18 October 2014 23: 41
            What wick is there and to whom it inserts,

            He simply allows himself to speak on equal terms.
      3. +4
        18 October 2014 16: 15
        Quote: ISKANDER25
        Hello! It’s worth a closer look at China !!!! hi
        Develop incredibly fast !!!
        hi They also breed feel
        1. +3
          18 October 2014 16: 19
          Quote: Nogicune
          They also breed feel

          No longer. There, according to the law, a second child is forbidden.
          1. +1
            18 October 2014 19: 33
            No longer.

            "One Child Policy was proclaimed in 1979"
            There, according to the law, a second child is forbidden.

            "China weakened the law against having more than one child"

            Do you even watch what you write?
          2. +1
            18 October 2014 23: 45
            No longer. There, according to the law, a second child is forbidden.

            Due to the growing age and gender proportions in demography, this prohibition is either lifted or greatly weakened. And the military has always been possible.
        2. +2
          18 October 2014 16: 38
          Quote: Nogicune
          They also breed



          Well, when yes, and now many people predict a demographic decline in the future, although these guys have done a good job! laughing
        3. +3
          18 October 2014 16: 53
          Quote: Nogicune
          They also breed

          They, as others correctly said, unlike our Middle Eastern goyim brothers, like us Orthodox Christians, are no longer multiplying in the quantities they would like. The difference, they do not multiply by order, the Russians do not multiply voluntarily, they wait until they die out and other nations come in their place.
      4. 0
        18 October 2014 16: 37
        China, using and applying Soviet experience, is becoming a world leader in almost all sectors.
        1. 0
          18 October 2014 21: 06
          Quote: Thought Giant
          China, using and applying Soviet experience, is becoming a world leader in almost all sectors

          This was used when Mao. Official data show that in 2013, the private sector accounted for over 60% of China's GDP. According to the results of 2013, the number of registered private enterprises in the country reached 12,54 million, the number of individual farms amounted to 44,36 million, two indicators increased by 15,5% and 9,3%, respectively, compared to the previous year. By the end of 2013, a total of 219 million people were employed in individual and private enterprises in China.
        2. 0
          18 October 2014 23: 48
          using and applying Soviet experience

          ??
          It will be correct: "Having studied, and creatively processed"
          Since the days of Deng Xiaoping, China has had its own path.
      5. +1
        18 October 2014 16: 45
        Hmm ... The West was watching ... And Russia decided to interact !!!
        1. 0
          18 October 2014 16: 47
          What does Russia have to do with it?
          1. +1
            18 October 2014 16: 52
            Space technology ... It's not easy !!!
      6. +1
        18 October 2014 17: 00
        Quote: ISKANDER25
        Hello! It’s worth a closer look at China !!!! hi
        Develop incredibly fast !!!

        And the flag is in their hands! This should not hinder us. Once again it reminds us of what was interestingly described in the article by Yegor Kholmogorov posted today on VO - "The Far East and Russian Oceania" and the character of Russian history mentioned there - the chancellor, Count Nesselrode - not be mentioned at night - he will burn in hell! If it were not for such corrupt creatures - spies who served the interests of the British crown, At the Court of the Emperor of Russia, then we would have made launches in the tropical zone on OUR land.
      7. +1
        18 October 2014 17: 59
        I somehow wrote about it, as a result, they naminated me and wrote that I’m an alarmist and the Chinese only know what to copy - this is unfortunately not a copy, we have nothing to brag about - we are building our first cosmodrome - I have in modern history, Baikonur doesn’t count
      8. 0
        18 October 2014 19: 06
        They just steal less. Or they don’t steal at all.
        1. Silumin
          +2
          18 October 2014 21: 34
          Eat less.
      9. Denis fj
        0
        18 October 2014 22: 48
        China is a developed country with a huge scientific, technological and industrial reserve! In the world, equilibrium and balance from the centers
        civilizations America, Europe, China ...

        Such things can only please, because someone should move humanity to the future. And another very important task is to regulate the settlement
        land and the number of aborigines on the planet!

        The only threat is that these centers would not enter into a conflict situation because of the division of the northern part of the planet! Including those territories where the Russian Federation was!
      10. 0
        18 October 2014 23: 30
        Develop incredibly fast !!!

        The question arose:
        Either they build spaceports using the "square-nesting method", or .... the author of the article does not distinguish between the spaceport and the launch complex on it.
        1989 Izvestia
        The Chinese legend says: a young weaver (jingyu) fell in love with a shepherd and stopped weaving clouds - "a robe for heaven." For this, the heavenly lord separated her from her lover, allowing her to meet only once a year ...
        With this name "Jin-1" in China, a new type of rocket was launched, which recently successfully launched from a new cosmodrome on Hainan Island. It was an experimental launch. The space exploration kansula was in the atmosphere for two and a half hours before falling to Earth 64 km from the launch pad. All information received during the flight was successfully received by ground systems. For the first time, Chinese scientists obtained direct information from the mid-latitudes of the atmosphere in the equatorial zone.
        This is the fourth Chinese spaceport, specifically to launch space exploration rockets.
        Sun Chuanli, director of the Space Center of the Chinese Academy of Sciences, commented on the fact that another Chinese spaceport appeared on the map: “Located in the western part of the island, it is one of the few space exploration bases in the world located close to the equator. Rockets from a height of 120 km will collect data on the middle and high layers of the atmosphere above the territory of China, close to the equator. Since there are few such bases in the world, we believe in its role in international cooperation, scientific and technical exchange. We will be glad to welcome foreign scientists. ”
        According to Sun Chuanli, in the first half of the 1990s, the second part of the spaceport will be built. From here, rockets will be launched at a height of 300km. A ground station is also planned for the return of satellites.
        Yu. SAVENKOV.

        I do not minus the article, because thanks for the information.
        1. Viktor Kudinov
          0
          19 October 2014 03: 09
          The backwardness of China must be forgotten once and for all. smile For example, the average housing provision in China is now about 28 square meters. meters per person, and in Russia - about 23. And the Chinese consumer goods, industrial products - the whole world buys, although there was a time when we didn’t buy them, but they bought electric shavers, cameras, binoculars, etc. The road will be overpowered by the walking one! And they are going well! One can only envy such economic growth rates as the PRC, and don’t go to the grandmother if nothing prevents, after 10 years, the Chinese will move the US economy to second place in the world. Therefore, skepticism about Chinese space exploration opportunities is also not worth it. Their secret is simple - they work hard to live better. And we would have achieved much more if the last 23 years worked more, and did not share what we had learned earlier. fellow
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    2. +5
      18 October 2014 15: 38
      Yes, seriously, China has taken up space ...
    3. Tirpitz
      +8
      18 October 2014 15: 39
      Already built. About China, news comes about already accomplished facts, and we have a magic number 2020. After at least the grass does not grow.
      1. +8
        18 October 2014 15: 53
        Quote: Tirpitz
        Already built. About China, news comes about already accomplished facts, and we have a magic number 2020. After at least the grass does not grow.

        A little head to think? The whole world owes China, Katai supplies the whole world, in China all the world assembly plants, and we have only world sanctions!
        PS China is developing in the late 80s, and thanks to EBN, we drove ourselves to the grave from the late 80s !!!
        1. +1
          18 October 2014 16: 40
          Quote: Homo
          and thanks to EBN we drove ourselves to the grave from the end of the 80s !!!


          And what about the last 15 years?
          1. 0
            18 October 2014 17: 09
            Quote: RUSS
            And what about the last 15 years?

            And what is wrong in the last 15 years?
          2. 0
            18 October 2014 23: 09
            - We got out of the debt hole and even dug up something, aren't you enough?
        2. +1
          18 October 2014 16: 55
          I do not understand. Here everyone is pissed, but for this
          West does everything to raise the "dragon" and "bear"
          Only, here, there are two big differences: the dragon has everything in order, but the bear has all the shit.
          51 minus set
        3. Tirpitz
          0
          19 October 2014 22: 20
          Quote: Homo
          A little head to think? The whole world owes China, Katai supplies the whole world, in China all the world assembly plants, and we have only world sanctions!
          PS China is developing in the late 80s, and thanks to EBN, we drove ourselves to the grave from the late 80s !!!

          So think, who's stopping you? The people have the government they deserve.
      2. +2
        18 October 2014 16: 16
        Comrades, if you are minus a person, they said at least why. The fact that we have zomboyaschik all day long tryndyat "in 2010 the" Angara "will be ready, then -" by 2014 the "Angara" will be ready, "in 2010 the lunar rover will land on the moon", then - "in 2014 the lunar landing will take place the Russian lunar rover ", then -" in 2017 the Russian lunar rover will land on the moon ", and now -" after 2040 there will be a Russian station on the moon ", and we hear about China that the first moon rover for humanity in 40 years has landed, that it is already ready spaceport for heavy rockets "Changzhen-5", isn't it ??? Do not explain to me, poor, deaf, blind, how my brain accepts information, since this is all a lie ??? Maybe I should go to a neurologist ??? And if it's true, what are the disadvantages of Tirpitz ???
        1. +1
          18 October 2014 16: 29
          And there are still some who say that we gathered at Ganymede ...
          1. +1
            18 October 2014 16: 33
            Some are who?
            1. +1
              18 October 2014 16: 56
              Quote: Basarev
              Personally, Russia has everything in order with space. New rockets and spacecraft are being built and developed, a promising Ganymede colonization program is planned
              1. 0
                18 October 2014 17: 23
                As I understand it, this is sarcasm.
          2. 0
            18 October 2014 16: 41
            Quote: Samarin
            that we gathered at Ganymede


            And whose is this satellite? Jupiter?
        2. +6
          18 October 2014 17: 16
          Quote: Colorado
          Comrades, if you are minimizing a person, they said at least why.

          When in Russia they build or start releasing what has long been in the West, then the cry and the stink are old, the last century, sucks. And when in China they build what has already been around for 50 years - again screams (cheers to China) and stink (how bad everything is in Russia)!
          1. 0
            18 October 2014 20: 45
            Quote: Homo
            And when in China they build what has already been around for 50 years - again screams (cheers to China) and stink (how bad everything is in Russia)!


            In this case, almost the same Angara 5 in terms of mass output to the IEO. And the first flights at about the same time. The project was announced in February 2001 with the beginning of development in 2002, the first launch of the launch vehicle was expected in 2008. However, funding was allocated only in 2007. The hangar in its current form began to be designed in 1997.
            The first test launch of the heavy version of the Angara-A.5 launch vehicle is scheduled for December 20-30, 2014
            So the pace of space exploration of the Chinese people cannot be compared with ours.
    4. +4
      18 October 2014 15: 51
      enviably recourse
      1. +1
        18 October 2014 18: 54
        alas, but it is
    5. +1
      18 October 2014 16: 00
      well done Chinese, beyond praise! will gradually become the No. 1 nation in the world. a talented and hardworking nation.
    6. +3
      18 October 2014 16: 04
      I think that China has a shortage of oligarchs. And those that have their money in China and invest ... We have these oligarchs multiply not only sexually. And their capital is taken out. And the government is under their control, and the Duma exists mainly in order to safeguard their interests (the second function of the Duma is to create the illusion of the majority). When we finish our oligarchy, then Russia will rush forward even faster.
      1. +1
        18 October 2014 23: 59
        I think that China has a shortage of oligarchs. AND

        Before you "think so" - google the topic!
    7. +3
      18 October 2014 16: 11
      Very soon, CHINA will be able not only to defend itself on a global scale, but also to dictate its conditions. New World Power is knocking on the gate. soldier
      1. +2
        18 October 2014 16: 24
        For us here, joyful, I do not see anything.
        1. -1
          18 October 2014 23: 04
          Quote: Colorado
          For us here, joyful, I do not see anything.

          Do not worry, the whole world will learn Chinese.
          1. +1
            19 October 2014 12: 06
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Quote: Colorado
            For us here, joyful, I do not see anything.

            Do not worry, the whole world will learn Chinese.


            Already teaches. Chinese courses beat all records for popularity and demand around the world, from Argentina to Sweden. (About Africa and the Arab countries, I generally keep quiet)
    8. +7
      18 October 2014 16: 12
      China is a good example of what the USSR would be like if its leadership had implemented the correct reforms.
      1. +3
        18 October 2014 16: 24
        Not really like that. The USSR would start from a much higher start. And science fiction would not seem fantastic if the leadership of the USSR carried out the right reforms. Only here history does not know the subjunctive moods.
      2. -2
        18 October 2014 16: 27
        Quote: Kibalchish
        China is a good example of what the USSR would be like if its leadership had implemented the correct reforms.

        The Soviet Union and without reform would be ahead of everyone !!!
        The only reform that was needed was the purge of the party.
        1. +5
          18 October 2014 16: 31
          Without reforms, the USSR would only fall apart later and more painfully.
          By the way, what kind of USSR are you talking about - the mid-70's or the mid-80's? I'm about the second.
          1. +1
            18 October 2014 16: 38
            and I'm on the first! if the party had been purged, many of its "members" would not be in power now!
            1. +1
              18 October 2014 16: 42
              Quote: DRA-88
              and I about the first!

              Then I agree with you.
              1. +1
                18 October 2014 19: 32
                Quote: Colorado
                Then I agree with you.

                That's right, and treating the investigation is useless, you need a reason.
        2. 0
          18 October 2014 23: 15
          - Leaving her Party-ideological work and cleaning the Nomenclature.
    9. +2
      18 October 2014 16: 21
      Quote: AUTHOR
      On a Chinese tropical island
      it's time to hold a referendum laughing
    10. +4
      18 October 2014 16: 22
      The question is not the number of spaceports. The question is the durability and effectiveness of the launched payload. And as a result, the rational spending of budget funds. RKK Energia There are things to think about, including quality control of carrier assembly.
    11. +3
      18 October 2014 16: 37
      Quote: Kibalchish
      China is a good example of what the USSR would be like if its leadership had implemented the correct reforms.

      Kibalchish, so in China they publicly broadcast live corrupt officials and bribe takers, and they send a bill for patrons to the family!
      That would be so with us !!!!
      Already, would surpass the whole planet! laughing
    12. 0
      18 October 2014 16: 39
      And still, no matter what the Chinese build, all this is due to copied (stolen) technologies. Purely Chinese technologies oh how little so far.
      1. +1
        18 October 2014 16: 48
        They’ll do it right! They can even copy, but in our country such a base in the country used to produce military radio parts in the Soviet era, but now what? They all dumped it. Are we hoping to import?
        It turned out that the microwave transducer from Mitsubishi costs 21000 rubles, and our analogue is 1800.
        1. Silumin
          +1
          18 October 2014 21: 38
          We had such a base in the country in Soviet times for the production of military radio components, but now what?


          And what the heck is our army of radio components of the 50s of the last century?
    13. +2
      18 October 2014 16: 51
      it’s from this cosmodrome that we’ll wake up satellites on Chinese inhabitants — if everything can be synchronized in our space prasrem. it’s good to launch foreign satellites on our rockets — they will fall much less often than ours. Here and the result, the Chinese are increasing their expansion in space, and we are still not able to start the production of microelectronics necessary for the country in general
      1. +1
        18 October 2014 16: 53
        So Chubais has not yet mastered a key smaller than 22x24 in his nanotechnology ..... feel
        For 17x19, he asks 100 lards from Putin laughing
        1. +1
          18 October 2014 17: 00
          Quote: sv68
          here from this cosmodrome we willиm satellites output in Chinese nаinhabitants-if in their space negоif prаwe save everything else you can saveоthread. on our rockets it’s good to take alien satellites into space — they are much less likely to fallоThey’re more than ours. Here and the bottom line is that the Chinese are increasing their expansion in space, and we are still not able to start the production of microelectronics necessary for the country in general

          When did you last look at the Russian language dictionary?
    14. +4
      18 October 2014 16: 56
      The Chinese are well done. That's who you need to cooperate with in space exploration. Plus, India and Brazil, which also dreams of becoming a space power. South Africa also has a desire to explore space. In general, the entire BRICS is the future of space.
      In this regard, I remembered: in winter, the site had an article about Ukraine's plans to develop its own space program and plans to explore Mars. Numerous at that time Ukrainian members of the forum met this news with a bang. I remember well the comment of one of them: "Morning begins with a positive!" To our remarks that there is still no space for space, they replied that we do not understand anything and, in general, all Soviet space is made in Ukraine. And where is the Ukrainian space program now? And will she ever be? Here it is a clear achievement of the Maidan: from a cohort of STATES with space capabilities, Ukraine voluntarily transferred itself to the category of third-rate countries in terms of technology ...
      1. +2
        18 October 2014 17: 00
        PENSIONER, you shouldn’t be so .... All the plants of the former SU and now the Russian Federation for the production of rocket and space technologies are located exactly in Ukraine .....
        In Milan, Putin promised a fair amount of gas at a discount ... Do you have any idea what this is all about ???? Yes
        1. +2
          18 October 2014 17: 05
          Quote: alien50
          All factories of the former SU and now the Russian Federation for the production of rocket and space technologies are located exactly in Ukraine .....

          stopNot everyone. Yes
    15. +2
      18 October 2014 17: 02
      Progress does not stand still. I believe in 50 years, many countries will have their own spaceports, and even nuclear programs of a military nature will also appear from countries that are not being discussed now. So then (if we survive) there will be no questions about nuclear parity, as Argentina and Brazil and other new players will appear on the arena. And space will already be plowed by the Chileans, Poles, Canadians, Saudis, this is where you will have to negotiate .... by that time each country will have nuclear charges and their delivery vehicles. And the Chinese are great, whatever one may say. Well, like that, if you look at them objectively. And it would be interesting to develop space together with them. Our brains and their performance. Tighten quality. And it may so happen that on Mars "Katyusha" will be sung in Russian and in Chinese.
      1. 0
        18 October 2014 21: 17
        Quote: Good fellow
        Our brains and their performance

        "Our Brains", "Our Ballet" - an old song ... It's time to take a sober look at things!
        1. 0
          19 October 2014 17: 40
          I think Our Brains are quite competitive and set the pace in the world. How sober is it? How can the power of the brain be measured? Still, I believe in the ability to implement projects of enormous proportions, requiring a developed base in all sectors, as well as in the ability to implement, albeit through experienced, but breakthrough technologies. The same Russian space is the highlight of the world scale. Russian space also sets standards, as can be seen from the implemented projects of the same China and the United States.
    16. +3
      18 October 2014 17: 03
      The Mongoloids have a poorly developed creative foundation, it is hard to invent them, but the amazing ability to scan and bring any idea to perfection is their racial peculiarity. The same Japanese and Koreans did not come up with any breakthrough for the whole time of their technological leadership, only other people's ideas and technologies. The authorship of the Chinese in inventing the compass is very controversial, the Polynesians knew about it before, gunpowder and silk can be called the exception that only emphasizes the rule. Everything, there is no longer anything that the rice civilization has given the world. So do not piss.
      1. 0
        18 October 2014 21: 23
        Quote: PRUSSAC
        but the amazing ability to scan and bring any idea to perfection

        Is it possible to bring the idea to perfection with an underdeveloped creative beginning? Well, for example, the wagon is an idea, the Lexus is perfection.
        1. +1
          19 October 2014 00: 14
          Is it possible to bring the idea to perfection with an underdeveloped creative beginning?

          Creativity is multifaceted. Have you heard about idea generators? And others brilliantly and creatively "write according to prescriptions."
      2. 0
        19 October 2014 00: 10
        The same Japanese and Koreans did not come up with a breakthrough for the entire time of their technological leadership, only other people's ideas and technologies.

        It will be correct: "The same Japanese and Koreans have come up with nothing breakthrough for all the time." They are really good at polishing other people's ideas. (All "purely Japanese" national things - when studied, they reveal roots in China: katana, kimono, tea ceremony, etc.)

        But the Chinese in the early Middle Ages invented. And then they decided to take exams for the position only in literature - and stagnation began. (The incentive to learn anything other than calligraphy and poetry has disappeared)
    17. +1
      18 October 2014 17: 12
      Not everyone

      90% is ALL!
      1. 0
        18 October 2014 20: 06
        Quote: alien50
        90%

        what C'mon.
    18. +2
      18 October 2014 17: 31
      ALL PEOPLE BROTHERS,
      Hug CHINESE,
      HELLO MAO DZE DONGU BEFORE:
      HE YELLOW WILL GIVE EGGS TO ALL OF US,
      I RED ITS OWN ALL OF THEM ...
      (E. Yevtushenko. 1956)
      1. 0
        19 October 2014 00: 15
        HE YELLOW WILL GIVE EGGS TO ALL OF US,

        I mean, cut off?!?! belay
    19. 0
      18 October 2014 17: 33
      Quote: Colorado
      At such a pace of years, through 20-30, China can become the leading space superpower, leaving Russia and the United States far behind.

      Get close in the dense yes, but overtake and leave behind such countries as Russia and the USA !!! vryatli, because Chinese industry collects all the best from all over the world, and stupidly copies, and to do something ourselves, while lacking strength.
    20. +3
      18 October 2014 17: 40
      Quote: Colorado
      And they also surpassed us.


      but we need to adopt their experience, prohibit the export of rare-earth metals (those that use radio electronics) in an untreated form and then we will be happy hi
    21. +3
      18 October 2014 18: 32
      but it is necessary to adopt their experience, prohibit the export of rare-earth metals (those that use radio electronics) in an untreated form and then we will be happy ...
      Especially palladium!
      1. Silumin
        0
        18 October 2014 21: 40
        but it is necessary to adopt their experience, prohibit the export of rare-earth metals (those that use radio electronics) in an untreated form and then we will be happy ...


        So with us they are not mined in the same amount as in China and have a large cost.
    22. TECHNOLOGY
      +1
      18 October 2014 21: 34
      Shit, devils, you follow the figs! Here are the pace!
    23. 0
      18 October 2014 21: 46
      you’re lying like that on the beach, and the step has separated on you and falls))
    24. 0
      18 October 2014 22: 41
      On the Chinese tropical island of Hainan, the construction of a new Wenchang cosmodrome has been completed,

      Now Cosmodromes are beginning to slap every five years!

      The power of the Chinese economy is like a steam locomotive speeding at destructive acceleration. Either this locomotive will blow everyone and everything around to shreds, or over time it will self-destruct. I believe that the Chinese economy will very soon take over the baton of the "soap bubble" from the inevitably dying dollar bubble.
    25. 0
      18 October 2014 22: 50
      In total, the construction of the cosmodrome took five years.

      Well, really we, Russia! managed to build the Olympics in the shortest possible time? Are we still dragging on with the construction of Vostochny? But the image indicators are actually much higher! There is a malicious slip somewhere! am
    26. +1
      18 October 2014 23: 02
      In addition, rockets will use fuel that meets high environmental standards.

      lol Euro six? lol
    27. Plato
      0
      19 October 2014 00: 06
      Well done narrow-eyed! Already four cosmodromes !!!
      When both of us with great difficulty pull one.
      The next millennium will certainly be Chinese ...
    28. 0
      19 October 2014 00: 21
      The Chinese comrades would like to wish only success in space exploration. Both near and far. And do not gloat ill-wishers. Your nasa and Zimbabwe are on the same level. Only we, and only. they are fortunate enough to pull the afugue world community out of the pit of nihilism. Russia and China are leaders in world space exploration. and the entire progressive population of the Earth wishes you success. And, this is the work of hundreds of thousands of engineers and workers. And it doesn’t matter who fulfills the dream, Reach the star. Because We are humans and we are walking. With peace, I hope.
    29. -1
      19 October 2014 00: 43
      Nice and beautiful cartoon. We still need to shoot and shoot.
      The guys work, work, bypass many of the mistakes that we ourselves told them about.
      God grant (both ours and theirs are all mixed up) so that they succeed. Take care of the launch pad, paint it with Photoshop, and announce that it is now there to launch everything that your heart desires! But here it is, the soul does not yet allow anything to be launched, except for weather balloons! But we will make a big noise and go awry around the whole world! The Japanese are squabbling, the Vietnamese are frowning, the big northern bro himself does not know what he wants. So why not build another 15-25 spaceports?
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    30. -1
      19 October 2014 03: 27
      The Chinese live at the expense of the United States, it is enough to throw dollars into the market, and Russia is the same, and kapets to the states, as well as the Chinese and world economies.
    31. 0
      21 October 2014 07: 44
      yes in everything they surpassed us ..... both in space and in war and machines .... a great nation .... and Serdyukov then they would have been put to the wall for a long time

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