Novosibirsk special forces received 10 frost-resistant "Tigers"

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Novosibirsk special forces received more than 10-ti improved armored vehicles "Tigr-M SPN", which without problems start up at ambient temperatures up to - 50˚С, transfers TASS with reference to the press service of the Central Military District.

Novosibirsk special forces received 10 frost-resistant "Tigers"


“Special purpose armored vehicles are equipped with automatic tire pressure control and fire suppression systems, preheater, which allows the engine to be started at temperatures up to –50 ° C and heats the body, with an electric winch of self-pulling”- said in a statement.

According to the press service, “Tigers” of this modification “have an engine with a capacity of 215 l. with., the capacity of the machines is 1,2 tons, capacity - up to eight people, the maximum speed - 120 km / h. " The car also has “greater off-road maneuverability compared to other versions and better engine protection from bullets and fragments”. Cars comply with Euro-4 standards.

“Russian-made armored cars“ Tigr ”are manufactured for the Defense Ministry of the Russian Federation by the GAZ group at the Gorky Automobile and Arzamas engineering plants. They are intended for reconnaissance, guard columns, patrols and infantry fire support ", - The press service of the Central Military District reports.
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    1. +17
      17 October 2014 17: 09
      It has long been waiting for such cars.
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      2. +19
        17 October 2014 17: 22
        Beautiful cars and formidable ...! How they looked in Crimea clearly and effectively .... a couple blocked an entire military unit, introducing the APU into a stupor! bully
        1. -10
          17 October 2014 17: 55
          Vladimir Vladimirovich from Ussuriysk threw?) One-in good night, kids and a dozen here)
        2. Hon
          -8
          17 October 2014 21: 40
          Yes, only there is a video in which "Tiger" cannot move a simple border
          1. +4
            18 October 2014 00: 21
            Do not confuse our "Tiger" with an Italian trolley for parade exits.
            1. Steel loli
              -1
              18 October 2014 08: 55
              It was precisely the Tiger and it was in the Crimea.
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            3. Hon
              -1
              18 October 2014 18: 30
              I do not know about Italian carts, but it was the "Tiger" that could not pass, you can watch it on YouTube, the svidomity are very much laughing at this video.
              1. +2
                18 October 2014 19: 02
                Quote: Hon
                I do not know about Italian carts, but it was the "Tiger" that could not pass, you can watch it on YouTube, the svidomity are very much laughing at this video.


                Yes, you trust this svidovideo more. The "loganchik" remained behind the scenes, which the Maydanuts drove close to the "tiger" in the hope, apparently, that they would hook him and it would be possible to trumpet that our military were crushing civilians. And that one neatly, but quietly, in a word - politely. smile

                Be that as it may, the "tigers" have fulfilled their task, the super-rulers have nothing similar now, the Banderas will certainly not have anything further.
                1. Hon
                  0
                  19 October 2014 14: 07
                  what task? work on camera? ukrov on kraz steal similar crap is done, the sense of it is like a goat’s milk
      3. +4
        17 October 2014 17: 48
        And so what's the catch - that is, they drove 10 specifically for Novosib - it will hit -40 well in Moscow and that they will get up there - we have RUSSIA and general frost can come wherever he wants
        1. +2
          17 October 2014 17: 55
          I think they have been in Moscow for a long time. The generals have to go fishing ...
        2. +5
          17 October 2014 18: 06
          if in Moscow there will be -40 .. then in Novosibirsk we will have -70 .. which is unrealistic!
          1. +4
            17 October 2014 19: 13
            Quote: maxxdesign
            if in Moscow there will be -40

            almost every winter -37-38 at night for 5-7 days here in N Novgorod ..... do you have -68 in Novosibirsk then?
            1. Evgeniy.
              0
              17 October 2014 20: 05
              we do not at night
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          2. +1
            18 October 2014 00: 47
            Quote: maxxdesign
            if in Moscow there will be -40 .. then in Novosibirsk we will have -70 .. which is unrealistic!
            Is quite real. It may be that when -40 in Moscow, we will have -15 in Novosibirsk ... Can you be confusing us with Yakutia?
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        4. 0
          17 October 2014 19: 29
          Everything has its time. Have you heard such a saying ?. Why are you worried about Moscow "Siberian German"? Or are you not from Siberia, but from Moscow? Scared for your skin?
          1. +3
            17 October 2014 19: 46
            some kind of rude one, and so my skin is calmly tolerating -50 - come to me in Nazyvaevsk I will specifically tell you about anxieties and frosts
            1. +5
              17 October 2014 19: 55
              In general, the name "Tiger" in me personally evokes strange associations and childhood and youthful memories of the stories of front-line soldiers and wonderful heroic-patriotic films.
              I wonder if it's just me so old-fashioned? hi
        5. +1
          17 October 2014 20: 19
          Quote: Siberian German
          And so what's the catch - that is, they drove 10 specifically for Novosib - it will hit -40 well in Moscow and that they will stand there

          They will drive us from Novosib ... Although this is unlikely, at such a low temperature, half of Maskvabad will immediately leave for the Caucasus home.
      4. +1
        17 October 2014 19: 11
        Only what special forces received these good fighting vehicles, for some reason, is not specified.
        1. +2
          18 October 2014 00: 57
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Only what special forces received these good fighting vehicles, for some reason, is not specified.
          24th Separate Brigade SPN GRU (Novosibirsk)
          1. VladimirK
            0
            18 October 2014 11: 27
            It seems that the Berd Brigade was restored? Or not?
            1. 0
              18 October 2014 14: 28
              As it became known to the newspaper "Courier. Sreda. Berdsk" special forces in Berdsk will not return.
              The Irkutsk Special Forces Brigade was redeployed to Novosibirsk, the 17th military town (Boris Bogatkov St.). Special forces will not return to Berdsk. Autobat was transferred to Yurga. The territory in which it was located was ordered to be preserved.
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      6. +1
        17 October 2014 22: 04
        I remember in the 80s in the Amur region. at - 35-40 it was given to exit 12 UAZ-469 from cold boxes for 45-50 minutes. These seem to pop out faster!
        Quote: Bora
        It has long been waiting for such cars.
        1. 0
          18 October 2014 04: 22
          And where will it be used 24 br? In Moscow ?? in Novosibirsk? On the art? Why do they need such cars in the road? To go fishing ?? they need hamviks to ride around the rear of the probable enemy, and run on the run-in-Novosibirsk
    2. +9
      17 October 2014 17: 09
      But in Novosib it can be hot in the summer, up to + 33. Is there a kondishka? feel
      1. Viktor Kudinov
        +2
        17 October 2014 17: 30
        A fridge with a bar would not hurt either! wassat
    3. +7
      17 October 2014 17: 10
      It remains only to be happy for their Siberians that they will have such good technical support.
      1. Hon
        -2
        17 October 2014 21: 50
        and what good is it?
      2. Steel loli
        -3
        18 October 2014 08: 58
        Yeah, 10 cars in all of Siberia. It remains only to be happy for them.
    4. +6
      17 October 2014 17: 10
      Those times ... And how about the rest, "frost-resistant"? So why did they shout about "non-frost-resistant Iveco LMV"?

      It’s not good ...
      1. +3
        17 October 2014 17: 21
        Minus from Deripaska? fellow
        1. +8
          17 October 2014 17: 33
          Novosibirsk special forces received 10 frost-resistant "Tigers"

          read ((no points))) MINO-SUSTAINABLE already delighted ... WELL FINALLY ... wrong, frost ...

          when will the mine-resistant Tigers be released ??? without fanaticism ... but although there WOULD be 5-7 kg.vt / e under the body ...
          "Patria AMV" is the same on the frame, but in various modifications it holds up to 8 kg.v.t / e ... against 700 gr.w.t / e at the "Tiger"
          1. 0
            17 October 2014 17: 44
            Quote: cosmos111
            when will mine-resistant Tigers be released ???

            When they stop buying ordinary ones. That is never.
            1. 0
              17 October 2014 17: 55
              Quote: Spade
              When will stop buying ordinary

              yes, perhaps it is ... it is not a matter of technology, making a V-shaped body or applying other developments to protect the bottom (((remote booking))) is not a problem now !!!
              1. +4
                17 October 2014 18: 10
                Quote: cosmos111
                make a V-shaped body or apply other developments to protect the bottom (((remote booking))) now is not a problem !!!


                Here it is, the Tiger with blast protection. Nimr II is called. It has been in production for 7 years.
                1. +1
                  17 October 2014 18: 26
                  Quote: Spade

                  Here it is, the Tiger with blast protection. Nimr II is called. Manufactured for 7 years

                  and here is MDT Textron's "Tiger" 4x4 on a modified chassis of a commercial Dodge RAM pickup truck ... in production since 2009 ... STANAG-3 mine protection ... price- $ 225,000 ...
                  1. +1
                    17 October 2014 18: 40
                    Don't be confused. "Nimr II" was created on the basis of "Nimr", and those were built according to the Russian project. Firm "Industrial Computer Technologies", a subsidiary of JSC "GAZ", created for this topic.
                    1. 0
                      17 October 2014 18: 57
                      Quote: Spade
                      Don't be confused. "Nimr II" was created on the basis of "Nimr", and those were built according to the Russian project. Firms

                      I didn't quite understand your post ... but "Tiger" 4x4 from Textron, this project is not as unrelated to the topic "Nimr" ...
                      designed and built a car in Auburn, Ala which is a subsidiary of Textron ...
                      info s:http://www.armyrecognition.com/august_2013_defense_industry_military_army_news_u
                      k / slidell_police_department_is_now_equipped_with_the_tiger_4x4_armoured_vehicle_
                      of_textron_0708131.html
      2. dyremar 66
        +3
        17 October 2014 17: 45
        the rest of Serdyukov equipped sofas
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          1. +1
            17 October 2014 22: 20
            Canadian-Emirates company "Streit Group", released in 2014 the armored personnel carrier "VARAN" ....
            TTX: V-shaped bottom ..., 6-cylinder Cummins engine with turbocharging - 400 l / s .., length -7 m, width-2,55, height-2,25 ..., automatic transmission "Allison 3200SP". .., wheelbase 2000 + 1375 mm ..,

            Explosion reservation STANAG 4569 level 4 !!!
            number of seats 2 eq. + 8 landing ...
          2. 0
            17 October 2014 22: 22
            What are you writing some nonsense? I’ll look at you, trying to bury a 152-mm shell under the roadbed, so that imperceptibly. And throw an anti-tank mine into a puddle, seconds. And from this they really perish.

            After the mass supplies of MRAPs, the occupation forces in Iraq decreased several times. Here, huh?
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          4. 0
            17 October 2014 22: 33
            Quote: Saburov
            As you have lifted up with your mine defense


            specially for you dear Saburov..All .. !!!

            armored HUMVI, in the TRAIN, and why ... yes because there is no mine protection !!!
            1. 0
              17 October 2014 23: 12
              here is the bottom of the armored HUMVI --- flat as a table ...
              when blasting explosives ... where the blast wave to go ??? only in the bottom ..... a breach of the bottom ... and HUMVI scrap metal !!!
          5. Cossack Lee Hoy
            +3
            18 October 2014 01: 30
            You write everything correctly, General Saburov. RPG work from the flank or a land mine and - "aty-baty". Nothing will save (only the Lord God). I know ...
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              1. +2
                18 October 2014 03: 03
                Understand the young man that no one has canceled physics, even though you will have a million mine defenses, inertia and impact force will still go to the hull, the mechanics of internal damage, whatever form you come up with, it can be reduced, but it’s all about small charges power, respectively, to protect yourself from more powerful ones, you need a more voluminous protection, respectively a charge (just to say a lot more) that will turn a car or tank into a sedentary and heavy vulnerable target. Therefore, I’m not even surprised, just people who have never seen and didn’t feel the gap near, even if it’s an ordinary mine, don’t understand the strength and pressure of the shock wave and what is being done after that with the person, hence the naive conclusions like MRAP, let's reserve everything.
                PS I don’t visit the site often, sometimes sometimes, to be honest, I just stumble upon a stubborn position, military ignorance, comparing airplanes with non-pilots and engineers, comparing tanks with non-tank crews and mechanics, and so on, and at the same time, make such convincing conclusions, that I am already scratching myself in the most modest places, there’s some kind of pimple kid who never even saw the sleeves and proves that the Raptor or some other lizard sees further, shoots better and generally he, he knows his exact characteristics, which even the pilots they don’t know this plane, what can you do about information warfare and reluctance to learn from young people, do you want to learn how to correctly evaluate the combat capabilities of military equipment, to begin to go to the Army or graduate from an institute in some useful profession, for example rocket science.
                1. 0
                  18 October 2014 09: 04
                  Let me continue your wise reasoning ...
                  Why do we need helmets and body armor if they do not save from 12.7 ammunition?
                  Why tanks need armor if modern ammunition hits them from above? "Bill-2" and "Tou-2" on the fly, "Javelin" making a "slide" Moreover, there is no need for dynamic defense - there is now a bunch of tandem ammunition in the world. There is no need for armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles for the same reason .. ...

                  You would, damn it, before you write nonsense, would look at statistics for the same Chechnya. Here, personally, I know only one big land mine, which in Pioneersky Czechs under the asphalt rolled up in front of an unfinished gas station. And he did not explode. Because as the line of detonation of this landmine fuck fucked up. And the rest ... It all started when an armored personnel carrier, an anti-tank mine, stood near Chemulga. Then a bunch of big uncles hanging out at headquarters 1/694, ran into the OZM, rode on armor. Including then Colonel Kasyanov from the Solnechnogorsk sniper school was killed. Then there was an APC, I don’t know whose, when they went to the southern outskirts of Urus. Then, near Pionersky, an anti-tank mine on the infantry supply road, which stuck at the heights. Attached to MT-LB from Mozdok. Then, after Komsomolsky, not far from the T-shaped intersection at Pionerskoye, they threw a PT mine into a puddle, and the MT-LB OPTADNa blew up.

                  Here is a link to IEDs http://twower.livejournal.com/876901.html There is a wonderful table stating that most IEDs are 6 ... 8 kg of TNT.

                  Understand a very simple thing: a few 152 mm shells is cool. Yes, that's just to lay this steepness is difficult, and it is easy to find it to sappers.
                  1. Cossack Lee Hoy
                    +1
                    19 October 2014 00: 05
                    Lopatov: "... would have looked at the statistics on the same Chechnya ..."

                    You are both right and wrong at the same time. As for landmines, good "density", then the cache takes time, yes. But the specifics of the region in general and the terrain in particular is only an assistant to the spirits for a serious undermining. The use of landmines with spirits is, basically, a report to the owner on camera. Take 7 RPGs, Abrams makes in a circle, except for the forehead (the data is freely available on Iraq).
                    We're talking about "Mrapah", maybe B-TR-MD, -MP. Do you really think that if RPGs will work from the flank on any of the armored vehicles, and it is more likely that a double launch with an interval or no matter what, then the crew inside has chances? Chances are only for those who are on the armor and then, if they are lucky. Something like this...
                2. +2
                  18 October 2014 22: 55
                  General, this is an eternal dispute between theorists and practitioners. Practitioners know from their own skin what a concussion is and why it occurs, and theorists own "verified" information from the Web, therefore, any usefulness, EXPERIENCE and reality will be brought to complete absurdity. "We swam - we know ..." It's surprising that the home-grown "tankers" didn't bother with the acute-angled "belly" and the height of the "object" of five meters.
                  I would like to see humpbacked South African people on the Afghan "roads". recourse
    5. ISKANDER25
      +1
      17 October 2014 17: 15
      Hello, here we at Arkhangelsk "Warrior" need at least five of them !!!! hi
    6. The Art of War
      0
      17 October 2014 17: 18
      In Central Russia there are no such frosts as in the North, and there these Tigers and the Arctic will look.
    7. +1
      17 October 2014 17: 18
      A good "cat" just add solarium! good
    8. 0
      17 October 2014 17: 18
      I think they will increase the efficiency of the unit several times
    9. 0
      17 October 2014 17: 19
      good tiger car! timely and suitable for the military.
    10. +3
      17 October 2014 17: 21
      I see that recently enemies of our state have appeared here - they "minus" everything Russian, "minus" the development of our Armed Forces, "minus" our policy on the world platform and the actions of V. PUTIN ...
      "Good luck" to you, enemies of RUSSIA, in your difficult activity, you are still not capable of anything more, except to sit on the couch and yap !!! wink
      1. +2
        17 October 2014 17: 27
        Quote: givigor71
        I see that recently, enemies of our state have appeared here - they "minus" everything Russian, "minus" r

        This is good ..! minus silently from powerless anger ..))) And I always plus .. So write men do not be afraid .. drinks (I have a plus heavy))))
      2. +3
        17 October 2014 17: 34
        Is it "Russian"? Yeah, keep your pocket wider ... This super expensive UAZ was created for the Arabs. Namely for the Jordanians. (by the way, they brought it to mind, google "NIMR", it has long been protected from explosions, like "Iveco LMV")

        They refused to produce it in Russia, but Deripaska's guys and he personally wanted money. And so a company began to push cars that they absolutely did not need into the RF Armed Forces. They simply did not have a place in the staff of the units. Perhaps one to the regiment, to carry the commander. However, the hairy paw in the Kremlin is powerful, and the military was forced to buy what they didn't need. After all, the income of "Russian Machines" is more important than the needs of the army, isn't it?

        So, dear. The supply of "tigers" to the troops has nothing to do with the "development of our Armed Forces", rather the opposite. instead of the really necessary weapons they buy this ...
        1. +2
          17 October 2014 17: 52
          Lopatov you are of course right about something .. (especially at the expense of a hairy paw in the Kremlin)))) I will answer you like this .. You can swap anything, especially in the interest .. Our military has long been driving UAZ-ah unprotected. (I know these cars well, they are unpretentious and tenacious) And I like the "Tigers" if only kill them .. Enough to drive UAZ .. And the cars will be finalized (in a combat situation) .. hi This means you minus the article .. (I have nothing against the opinion expressed ..)
          1. 0
            17 October 2014 18: 15
            And who drives UAZs? That's right, the fathers-commanders in the PPD and the personnel of 4 DShBr. And still. And this is quite normal, they do not need "Tigers".

            Articles I never minus. I have not yet met one that would have been so poorly written.
            1. 0
              17 October 2014 18: 33
              Quote: Spade
              Articles I never minus. I have not yet met one that would have been so poorly written.

              Understood sorry hi .. It's not about the article, but about the fact that just spread rot all .. Well, you can't! Or do you suggest buying in the west? Convenient and cheap)))) Just remember where you started at the beginning of the 20th century and where you came to ... And I still like "Tigers" ..!
              1. 0
                17 October 2014 18: 47
                Quote: MIKHAN
                Or do you offer to buy in the west?

                What to buy? What, like "Tigers", is not needed by the RF Armed Forces? And there is no need to buy abroad.
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        3. 0
          17 October 2014 18: 24
          to saw, but I was afraid to write this, Lopatov :)) the real truth! AM did not pass the competition, badly protected and half of the foreign components (including the engine) - rather, not an achievement, puffiness. auto industry, and failure
          1. +1
            17 October 2014 18: 35
            Here ... What contests?

            Speaking of them: in the first months of his reign, Shoigu promised to conduct comparative tests. But either because Lynx can unpatriotically win, or Tiger 6A is still not ready for such tests ... In short, the topic was hushed up. But the "Tigers", as we can see, continue to join the troops. In contrast to the really necessary "Rysey". Well, or their analogues.
            1. 0
              17 October 2014 19: 19
              Quote: Spade
              . Well, or their analogues.

              rather, their analogues ...
              we need a modular platform, with a wheel formula-4x4,6x6,8x8, with unification for nodes and assemblies !!!
      3. vladsolo56
        +3
        17 October 2014 17: 58
        Well, you hate the USSR, let it already be gone. so what? For example, I was born in the USSR, this is my homeland, why should I be glad that in Russia the power passed to the oligarchs who sell everything that is possible, and our government only helps this, Russia is an official, oligarchic country today, are you glad about this? do you think everyone who is not happy about this, enemies? question to whom are they enemies?
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        2. +3
          17 October 2014 18: 17
          Quote: vladsolo56
          Well, you hate the USSR, let it already be gone. so what? For example, I was born in the USSR, this is my homeland, why should I be glad that in Russia the power passed to the oligarchs who sell everything that is possible, and our government only helps this, Russia is an official, oligarchic country today, are you glad about this? do you think everyone who is not happy about this, enemies? question to whom are they enemies?

          Well, let's say you're right ... You propose to ride on Red Square and burn tires demanding lustration ..? I also don't like a lot, but for the first time in 20 years I began to be proud of Russia and the head of state of my Motherland! Yes, my life is not sugar with me (you won't even believe how much ..) But I believe in Russia and the Russian world! And I will teach my sons to do this .. (so that they do not become stupid consumers or, even worse, "buy and sell") These are the things in the tank forces .. hi
          1. vladsolo56
            +1
            18 October 2014 06: 09
            Why assume that I am coming from, I do not urge anyone to ride. The fact that Russia has somehow achieved something is not the result of smart rule, it is the result of the rampant sale of natural resources. It has already been said many times that if the cost of oil and gas falls, no matter for what reasons, then all our pride will collapse like a house of cards. The fact that we must immediately return socialism, a planned economy is the only way for the speedy revival of Russia. How this will be done is not important, of course, better in a peaceful way, but in fact it is unlikely. You need to understand that no one will voluntarily want to part with the feeder; it’s not difficult for them to assemble a small army of mercenaries. I can only assume that such behavior will lead to self-liquidation, nothing more. Total we will come to socialism inevitably. With or without blood.
    11. s1н7т
      +1
      17 October 2014 17: 23
      And why do our SPN machines meet Euro standards ?! belay
      1. +2
        17 October 2014 17: 26
        I wanted to ask the same thing) to such machines all these European standards are useless
      2. +4
        17 October 2014 17: 27
        That would be repaired at the service stations of Germany, France, England during the offensive, to use their fuel, oil ...... (this is a joke ..... but, ...... and the truth is somewhere nearby)
      3. +1
        17 October 2014 17: 28
        for the fact that the engines on them are American. the Parade Tigers and the FSO are also American, and the suspension and gearbox. GAZovsky didn’t like something of their own. urgently need a good engine - otherwise the troops can’t see the Tigers - the Americans will close supplies
        P.S. I saw recently in Gorny (near N-skom) such, but I can’t say anything bad / good right away. Time will tell
      4. +1
        17 October 2014 17: 29
        Caring for the ecology of our country smile
        And he killed a terrorist and saved nature!
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      6. +2
        17 October 2014 17: 50
        I would not put the question like that. "Why do the Army Special Forces need Tigers at all?"
        1. +1
          17 October 2014 18: 46
          Well, these came to VV (I’ll reveal secrets)
          1. 0
            17 October 2014 18: 55
            Last year I saw tenders at Mokrushin for this year. BB has no money for "Tigers", they massively bought armored "UAZ"

            Yes, and VVshnik, they also did not stick. They definitely need explosion-proof equipment. And the "Tiger-6A" still cannot be submitted to detonation tests.
            1. 0
              17 October 2014 19: 11
              Quote: Spade
              Last year I saw tenders at Mokrushin for this year. BB has no money for "Tigers", they massively bought armored "UAZ"

              Yes, and VVshnik, they also did not stick. They definitely need explosion-proof equipment. And the "Tiger-6A" still cannot be submitted to detonation tests.

              Shovels, you remind me of the style of Vaf very much ... But he works in aviation .. it’s also critical and vicious .. bully I remember offering to "shoot" him for sabotage and panic .. (then changed his mind) Here you are again in the same style of sabotage bully Or you are the same person (I'm an observant dude ..)))) I suggest admins add a button to + - "Shoot" .. bully laughing The time of war begins to liberalize enough ...! drinks
              Quote: Spade
              And the "Tiger-6A" still cannot be submitted to detonation tests.
              That’s why it’s already possible before the system of members of the forum ...! .. (disclosure of technical parameters and state secrets and a direct indication to the terrorists of the weaknesses of our military equipment ..) Or ..! soldier
              1. 0
                17 October 2014 19: 26
                Currently, Tiger-6A is preparing to test and protect the declared technical characteristics, and after that it will return to the enterprise for mass production.

                Note from the factory website, dated November 2011

                As for the tests of an armored car "Tiger 6A" with shelling and undermining, such tests are planned to be conducted, but not in the first place.

                Answers of specialists of "VPK" LLC to the questions asked during the online conference, September 2013
        2. 0
          17 October 2014 19: 43
          Quote: Spade
          ... "Why do the Army Special Forces need Tigers at all?"

          it is the special forces that they do not need at all !!!

          special forces need something like this: prototype Tr3 (((will travel everywhere))) quick, easy maneuverability ...
          produced in small series in a private studio (((so for some reason they call mini-plants))))
          steel tubular frame ... can be booked ...

          the prototype of the TP3 "Shaitan" category was designed and built by the designers of HONDURAS MOTORSPORT

          1. 0
            17 October 2014 20: 24
            prototypes of the category TP3 "Cutlets" are built specifically for off-road racing ...

            production technology is similar to western ... when building tactical armored cars ... for special forces ...

            in the west, they have long used this class of brooeauto ... having sports roots ...
            and using small specialized firms for design ...
            we have solid MONOPOLISM !!! in life, third-party, and even more so small auto-building firms and design bureaus will not be allowed to the state budget ... and without this PROGRESS is not possible !!!
            1. 0
              17 October 2014 20: 59
              The special forces on such cuttlefish should ride ..? Do not tell .. This is purely for racing cars ...
              1. +1
                17 October 2014 21: 22
                Not cool?

                Although such machines are not particularly for them ... They either need such vehicles that are easily transported by a Mi-8 helicopter, moreover, inside, and not on an external sling, or vehicles based on full-fledged armored personnel carriers / infantry fighting vehicles, simply with enhanced capabilities in terms of radio communication ... By the way, there were such machines, though at the base of "Shot" in a brigade stationed in South Ossetia. Users did not like it because of the shortcomings of the base chassis.
                1. 0
                  17 October 2014 21: 49
                  Quote: Spade
                  Although such machines they are not particularly ..

                  and here is the colonel Hero of Russia Anatoly Lebed, did not think so)) sorry died))) and he tried to do something like that ...

                  buggy (conventional name)) from Colonel Lebed .... on the Niva nodes
                  1. 0
                    17 October 2014 22: 06
                    Cool ... In the morning, at 4.30, our group unnoticed in nine cars (this is how much it will take, given that the drivers are freelancers) is moving to the area of ​​the "Gherkin" height.

                    Does the big column hurt?
                  2. +1
                    17 October 2014 23: 54
                    How similar to the GAZ-67 !!!! ;-)))
              2. 0
                17 October 2014 21: 27
                Quote: MIKHAN
                ? Do not tell .. This is purely for racing cars ...

                these, Yes, for racing ... but this is an example ...

                but by the same technology, the Americans of Israel and other countries are building tactical armored cars ... for special forces ... with mounted modules are added depending on the upcoming tasks ...

                "Flyer" from General-Dynamics
                1. 0
                  17 October 2014 21: 37
                  article on: http: //topwar.ru/60120-amerikanskiy-specnaz-poluchit-sverhlegkiy-boevoy-avtomob

                  il-dagor.html

                  American special forces will receive a super-light combat vehicle DAGOR

                  The division of the company Polaris, engaged in the production of military products, introduced a new model of military equipment. It is reported that the company's new product is an ultralight combat vehicle called DAGOR.



                  than our Russian prototypes worse Amerov ???
                  we need serial ((in small batches, for specialists and airborne))) samples !!!
                  1. 0
                    17 October 2014 23: 09
                    We have most of the year - winter. I can imagine how our Special Forces are at minus 40, with a breeze .... An hour will go on the tundra or taiga ..... And which of them will turn out wars - none. I remember how I drove older cars in KrAZ with wooden doors along the Kola Peninsula in winter .... I almost died without any war))))) the trembling is still creeping out. We must still look at our realities
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                    2. +1
                      18 October 2014 11: 35
                      Quote: stroitel
                      . Imagine how our special forces at minus 40, with a breeze ..

                      No problem...

                      modular tactical armored car .... MAV-L

                  2. 0
                    17 October 2014 23: 37
                    one more Amer’s tactical armored car-armored car .... from the company Navy SEALs Team ...
                    клик
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        3. s1н7т
          0
          21 October 2014 18: 03
          Quote: Spade
          I would not put the question like that. "Why do the Army Special Forces need Tigers at all?"

          For nothing, judging by their purpose. But who read the basics of combat use from those who report success? Well, perhaps, like transport in traffic rules. Although earlier ZiL-131 and Urals were enough for this.
    12. Pereval
      +2
      17 October 2014 17: 32
      What a glorious figure: "more than ten" looks like they received not ten and one for spare parts, but 1000 :)
      1. ISKANDER25
        +1
        17 October 2014 17: 35
        Hello! In any case, no less! +++ hi
      2. +1
        17 October 2014 17: 58
        Quote: Pereval
        What a glorious figure: "more than ten" looks like they received not ten and one for spare parts, but 1000 :)

        I hope that this is a linguistic mistake, otherwise it could be like this: they paid for 20, but received 11, sawed the rest. Write that received 11, questions may arise for those who did not get shavings from the cut, so more than ten - and did not lie after all.
    13. Roshchin
      +1
      17 October 2014 17: 44
      I was glad for the special forces. They always need new equipment. According to the experience of the service, questions arise - are funds pledged for their correct and long-term operation, who will perform maintenance on what equipment? Will there be enough spare parts? Are drivers prepared for the features of operation? I hope that now those who are supposed to take care of this.
    14. +2
      17 October 2014 17: 45
      The Novosibirsk special forces received more than 10 advanced Tiger-M SpN ​​armored vehicles, which can be started without problems at ambient temperatures up to -50 ° C,
      To distinguish it from its other "brethren", this modification should be called "Amur Tiger" wink
    15. vladsolo56
      +1
      17 October 2014 17: 54
      And against whom in Novosibirsk will these machines be used?
      1. +2
        17 October 2014 18: 53
        Quote: vladsolo56
        And against whom in Novosibirsk will these machines be used?

        Against the "conditional enemy". It's just that Novosibirsk SPD brigade of special forces, there is both an excellent airfield and a powerful railway junction, which would very quickly transfer the special forces group to the desired point. And you shouldn't forget about covering up such a city ... there are so many things of particular value there, only Akademgorodok is worth something ...
    16. alexandrovich
      +2
      17 October 2014 17: 56
      The car is really great, I hope this will not stop our development! And production will continue in large volumes !!!
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    17. Romass
      +1
      17 October 2014 17: 57
      Europe should also be pleased with the compliance with the Eurik-4 standard ...
    18. +1
      17 October 2014 18: 03
      Good news! And it’s good that we ourselves are capable of producing such equipment, and not seek out abroad.
      1. Hon
        0
        17 October 2014 21: 57
        It's a shame that foreign samples will surpass him
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    20. +1
      17 October 2014 19: 39
      Unfortunately, the Tiger is a crude, ill-conceived car.
      Cheers patriots minus as much as you want.
      1. Crimea-nyash
        +2
        17 October 2014 19: 58
        ???? probably more like kaklovskaya? type on Tavria added sandboxes !! laughing
        1. Hon
          0
          17 October 2014 21: 57
          the difference between them is small
    21. +2
      17 October 2014 20: 57
      Cars comply with Euro-4 standards - this is sabotage, you’ll put a catalyst, a converter, an electronic pedal and brains and other environmental rubbish on Armata so that all this breaks down and is bought, to the joy of enemies am
      1. +1
        18 October 2014 01: 39
        From January 1, 2013, all cars manufactured and imported into Russia must comply with Euro-4 class, however, it is possible to use chassis and base vehicles with Euro-3 certificates issued before December 31, 2012.


        And since this year, Euro-5 has generally been accepted.
    22. 0
      18 October 2014 01: 23
      Great news. UAZ is certainly a wonderful car, but you still need to move forward.
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    24. +1
      18 October 2014 06: 17
      Quote: vodolaz

      Hon
      (4)

      Yesterday, 21: 40

      ↑ ↓ New


      Yes, only there is a video in which "Tiger" cannot move a simple border

      ............ Yes, only vidio, Made in Ukraine .... I saw with my own eyes this car in action, it’s very good and it’s not afraid of any border ... There would be more of those .. ...
    25. Strezhevsky
      +1
      18 October 2014 07: 06
      From all the read above, I understood only one thing: it is no longer recommended to post about tigers in VO !!!
    26. +2
      18 October 2014 09: 00
      For war and exercises, these machines are needed, but in everyday life they need to be put in the boxes.
      Interestingly, armored vehicles will appear in the army.
    27. 0
      18 October 2014 23: 07
      And what is the engine of our "TIGER"?

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