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Time works against junta

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Time works against junta


Honestly - already tired of the sofa critics. Emotionally, I don't like the Minsk agreements either. And I would like the army of Novorossia to dashing tanks I would have burst into Mariupol, Kharkov, and then Odessa (especially since there was a debt there for May 2, and I like to repay debts).

But actions in the offensive almost always require a significant numerical superiority (at least in the breakthrough area) and carry the threat of an increase in the number of losses. Personally, I do not have enough detailed information about the number and armament of the Novorossia militia (VSN) to judge whether they were enough for the assault on Mariupol (which I immediately thought was an adventure, to be honest) simultaneously with clearing the airport and freeing settlements in the north of the LC and the DPR. And since there is no information, then I sit and do not buzz.

However, this is not important. Why am I calm? Because in what is happening there is always its own internal logic. And if you don’t see her, then it’s not Putin’s fault, but your unwillingness to think.

When I first came to Moscow in June, what did I write? “I need help, urgent!” And then I stopped writing this. Guess why.

And when everyone ran and panicked about the punitive attacks on Donetsk and Lugansk, I calmly sat and smiled quietly, anticipating the defeat of the “formidable Ukrop army” (and actively predicting it, by the way). And without any special insight, just analyzing the situation. It turned out even better than I expected.

Now the same alarmists are running and screaming about a new occasion. Here they like to panic, what will I do? I will not poke a finger, but who even receive fees for breeding panic.

Meanwhile, the logic of what is happening is again on the side of Novorossia and against the junta. And now I will show you some pieces of this logic.

Firstly, the intermediate state of the Minsk agreements does not suit anyone. The party of peace is unhappy that battles continue, and the radicals are dissatisfied, because "there are few Muscovites." As a result, there is confusion and vacillation in the junta’s camp — this is amusing storms of Verkhovna Zrada by the dogs, but now there are meetings of conscripts mobilized with the demand for salaries and demobilization.

Regarding the Minsk agreements, I did not worry for a second - they simply could not be fulfilled, even if someone wanted to (long to explain, but many points are simply obvious - for example, the militia’s desire to liberate their cities and the ideological Ukrainian Nazis’s desire to continue the war, and US interests in the continuation and fanning of the conflict last but not least).

Secondly, the Ukrainian army has not been paid salaries for several months (and there is no place to take money, and the junta is not eager to spend on soldiers what can be successfully stolen), it is not ready for winter (there is no normal food, no uniform, with weapons and technology, too, problems), gradually to more and more people it becomes obvious that the junta is holding them for fools and for cannon fodder. Already a few terbats have gone over to the side of Novorossiya, and the dogs are brutal in trying to prevent new transitions, which only embitter conscripts and mobilized. Desertions of whole battalions speak for themselves.

In addition, after defeats in the east, Nazi ressentiment is demanding compensation, so they are deploying a company of terror against the Orthodox churches, pushing even more people away and once again will expose themselves to evil goblins in front of the entire planet. European politicians find it harder and harder to explain to their citizens, therefore they support the obvious neo-Nazi regime in Kiev.

Thirdly, gas negotiations are at an impasse (and it couldn’t have happened otherwise, because the junta simply has no money, and those that were allocated to pay for gas are already rastiribaneny), the reverse from Norway gives 2% of the required and high price, with coal, too, complete crap. I generally keep quiet about finances, they simply do not exist, and the only means of overcoming the crisis, which the junta economists and experts repeat, is the mantra “the west will not abandon us”.

What do you think, will they hold out for a long time on bare “patriotism”, without heat, with problems with electricity and money (and possibly with fuel and lubricants) pampered Kiev hamsters? After all, they were promised not "harsh years" and hardships "for the sake of the Motherland", but a European freebie, where you can not work and receive eight thousand euros each.

Yes, every day people die. And my soul hurts for each of them. But time is working against the Kiev junta, because every day its position inevitably deteriorates in many ways, bringing the fall of the Reichstag closer.

Therefore, the junta will inevitably launch a new attack on Novorossia (while exposing itself as an aggressor to international institutions). I think that right after my elections, but before the elections in Novorossia, so between the October 26 and November 2. And after the failure of this offensive (and I have no doubt about its failure), when the junta loses almost all the reserves and denies the rear, it will be possible to talk about the capture of Mariupol and the approach of the VSN to Kharkov.

As the old joke, "we slowly descended the hill and otymeem whole herd."
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  1. Drunya
    Drunya 16 October 2014 08: 29
    +8
    it's tin.
    Odessa tragedy on May 2. Audio recording of calls to the control room 101
    1. nvv
      nvv 16 October 2014 08: 41
      +3
      Events in Ukraine Elena Mazur
      1. Owl27
        Owl27 16 October 2014 09: 39
        +3
        Not everything is clear, but you need to think about a lot after watching, thanks.
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        2. siberalt
          siberalt 16 October 2014 10: 16
          +2
          Frosts will begin - all non-skakts will start to warm themselves. Glory to the heroes, damn it!
          1. varov14
            varov14 16 October 2014 11: 51
            0
            If we proceed from the postulate that politics has nothing to do with morality, and that power, guided by morality, is non-political, and therefore fragile. If we assume that someone who wants to rule must resort to both cunning and hypocrisy, then I immediately have a question, at least for gas (I do not have information), but have they stopped pumping it. I didn't cook on my own gas stove, I hope the rest are the same. If the level of production has not decreased, where the gas is pumped, if it has decreased, then one can believe in advertising of the future "frost". Just don’t talk about your own gas storage facilities, you have to be moronic, having them empty, I don’t believe in the Kremlin’s moronicity based on the international situation.
            1. Oldwiser
              Oldwiser 16 October 2014 15: 42
              +1
              Download - in the volumes stipulated by transit to the EU countries (through the hydraulic pipelines of dill)
          2. APASUS
            APASUS 16 October 2014 22: 19
            +1
            Quote: siberalt
            Frosts will begin - all non-skakts will start to warm themselves. Glory to the heroes, damn it!

            Winter will put everything in its place.
    2. quote
      quote 16 October 2014 09: 06
      +3
      There you have it, the rescue service is awesome! It's simple !!! You have to judge everyone there !!!! After only 28 minutes, they just gave the exit to fire. !!!! They just let people burn alive !!! And to an open area with fires and a threat the transition of fire to the housing estate exit is not necessary ???? but could people, everyone, save !!!
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 16 October 2014 10: 38
      +2
      Ukrainian fascist power should not exist, and the militia of New Russia will certainly carry it out.
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    5. skifd
      skifd 16 October 2014 13: 40
      +1
      Quote: Dryuya
      it's tin.


      ... Critters .... I did not sleep that night, I saw everything from beginning to end. I remember, and again it becomes bad. Such "forgiveness" can only be done from the machine.
    6. Tolyan Respect
      Tolyan Respect 21 October 2014 11: 01
      0
      ! She, too, is to blame for the loss of life!
  2. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 16 October 2014 08: 30
    +8
    Ukrohunta is doomed this clearly. The only question is how much she will take with her to the grave. It is strategically to wait while they themselves idolize a strategically correct business. But everyone forgot about the tear of a child ...
    1. UFO
      UFO 16 October 2014 08: 54
      0
      Quote: FC SKIF
      It is strategically to wait while they themselves idolize a strategically correct business.

      Yes, especially if you try to explain this to those who died yesterday, today and will die tomorrow. Khasavyurt 2.0 is a strategic decision not by couch strategists, but by Kremlin leaders, and they are always right. belay Mr. Rogers, apparently also considers himself to have known the truth, sitting in Moscau.
      So what, tomorrow we’ll take what you DID NOT take yesterday, you think the junta regrouped, built fortified areas, restored equipment, and destroys activists in the occupied territories every day. Avenge, but then! Nonsense, that to take the same Mariupol will require much more money and lives than it could be. Etc.
      PS Why do they smoke there in Moscow, that when they get there they become the very best, leaving others the fate of "couch strategists"? request
    2. Sunjar
      Sunjar 16 October 2014 09: 19
      0
      Quote: FC SKIF
      It is strategically to wait while they themselves idolize a strategically correct business.


      Yeah, the important point is that the gentlemen from Gazprom do not decide to follow the option proposed by the Nazi Nazis.

      It seems like they are fighting with Russia, but they still demand gas from the enemy Russia. You know schizophrenia.
      1. varov14
        varov14 16 October 2014 12: 02
        +1
        They finance the "rain" TV channel, a state company, so it is profitable for the Kremlin, why not supply gas to ukrov, do we manage the valve and monitor the gas meter?
    3. Alekseev
      Alekseev 16 October 2014 09: 56
      +4
      Quote: FC SKIF
      It is strategically to wait while they themselves idolize a strategically correct business. But everyone forgot about the tear of a child ...

      Quote: UFO
      explain this to those who died yesterday, today and will die tomorrow. "Khasavyurt 2.0" is a strategic decision not of "couch" strategists, but

      It’s hard to explain, if of course it’s a wooden belt, that in the Donbass they defeated ukrovsko not peaceful miners at all, So what gave a command smash these very Kremlin.
      Well, smash longer ... Go to the militia and smash (do not forget to take a vacation in the service yes )
      At times, the idiotic infantile speeches about the admissibility of a great war annoy.
      As if during the conduct of hostilities the "child's tear" would not be shed by streams.
      What to do, what to do? what
      But it is necessary to comprehensively slander Bandervlad in Ukraine and achieve its disintegration into friendly entities, possibly in the future, and the subjects of the Russian Federation, on the one hand, and a bunch of odious Bandera shit on the other.
  3. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 October 2014 08: 33
    +16
    the junta will inevitably launch a new offensive against New Russia (while at the same time exposing itself as an aggressor in front of international authorities).

    The junta will certainly launch an offensive, they need revenge. But in international instances, nobody (the junta) recognizes her as an aggressor. The anti-Russian bloc in the west is too monolithic.
    1. Eragon
      Eragon 16 October 2014 08: 38
      +8
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The anti-Russian bloc in the west is too monolithic.

      Yes, she is already monolithic. It is one thing in the summer to verbally approve the actions of the junta and blame Russia for everything, and quite another when it came to understand that all this pack will have to be fed. And here still svidomye with their manners in Europe climbed (Spain), so to speak they showed their present snout.
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 16 October 2014 10: 28
      +1
      make themselves evil goblins in front of the whole planet.
      The whole planet has long looked at goblins as fighters against the totalitarian Kremlin and despot Putin. And she doesn’t see deeply that people were burning in Odessa and were dying and dying under the ruins in the Donbass.
  4. Agat
    Agat 16 October 2014 08: 33
    +4
    But time works against the Kiev junta, because every day its position inevitably worsens in many ways,
    I'd love it to be that way! Soon Ukraine will celebrate the anniversary of the Maidan. And from this they will make a national holiday!
    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 16 October 2014 09: 57
      +1
      Quote: Agat
      national holiday will be made of it

      Let them do it. Let them spend money, not so much. Let them jump - keep warm, whoever can. And some will have a different fate ...
    2. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 16 October 2014 10: 29
      0
      "Hto ne skache, toy ne merzne!"
  5. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 16 October 2014 08: 34
    +2
    Therefore, the junta will inevitably launch a new attack on New Russia ------ Not even discussed!
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  7. SSR
    SSR 16 October 2014 08: 35
    +3
    I agree with the author.
    Imha. Mariupol, Odessa, Kharkov, apart from the capacities and coal of the DPR, are becoming very expensive for Kiev.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 16 October 2014 08: 52
      +9
      Quote: SSR
      Mariupol, Odessa, Kharkov, apart from the capacities and coal of the DPR, are becoming very expensive for Kiev.

      And then the "brothers-Poles" do not want to give coal for nothing!
      Ukraine wants to get Polish coal for nothing. Poland in shock
      We heard that Ukraine is interested in the supply of Polish coal, but on condition that it will be free for them, Polish Economy Minister Janusz Piechoczynski said on TOK FM. “I'm in shock, if not tougher.” It is not surprising that anti-Ukrainian sentiments are growing, OSTKRAFT reports.
      1. varov14
        varov14 16 October 2014 12: 10
        +1
        But from Russia they are not shocked to get gas for free, everything is in order and, oddly enough, we ourselves have taught them to do this.
  8. Siberian-54
    Siberian-54 16 October 2014 08: 35
    +2
    Your words, but to God’s ear!
  9. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 16 October 2014 08: 36
    +6
    Plus for the last line. good And in this context, it probably sounds like this, "we will wait until winter comes and in the spring we will decide what to do with you" laughing
    1. Eragon
      Eragon 16 October 2014 08: 57
      +5
      Quote: Rurikovich
      "we will wait until winter comes and in the spring we will decide what to do with you"

      I often read similar and approving comments about the "frozen x * trash". Why do you think so? Yes, there will be no heating, there will be serious problems with electricity and gas. But it will not be what it was during the Great Patriotic War. But then there was no mass pestilence from hunger and cold (Leningrad is a special story). So now why suddenly? They already experienced something similar in the mid-nineties, when the salary (for example, my mother's) was lower than a communal apartment. But thanks to the local media and propaganda, Russia will again be guilty. It’s she who doesn’t give gas for free, Donbass is "occupied", so there is no coal and export dollars. Do not forget - more than half of the population of Ukraine sincerely believe that Ukraine is at war with Russia.
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 16 October 2014 10: 28
        +3
        Oh, do not compare with the years of the Second World War. Then two-thirds of the country lived in villages, warmed up and cooked on wood, burned kerosene in the evenings and listened to detector receivers powered by Molniya batteries. Central heating was only available in the capitals. Now imagine life without heating, TV, internet and microwave. Public baths with their own cauldrons, and they were lost.
    2. 23 region
      23 region 16 October 2014 09: 27
      +13
      Quote: Rurikovich
      And in this context, it probably sounds like this, "we will wait until winter comes and in the spring we will decide what to do with you"
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 16 October 2014 11: 03
        +1
        23 The region, in February, saw its relatives bounce to pieces. Now sighting bells begin. good .We will see. laughing
      2. Agarkov Vitaliy
        Agarkov Vitaliy 17 October 2014 01: 16
        0
        In-in. It’s bad right away and haven’t you forgotten that you are my cousin?
        It seems to me that after a while the Ukrainians will be Russian says: "Have you forgotten that we are brothers-peoples"?
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  10. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 16 October 2014 08: 37
    +10
    Of course, you can agree with the article, you can disagree, I just want to add: I personally liked the "torchlight procession" of the Nazis! why? Yes, because finally all of Europe shuddered remembering the analogy! now begins to reach "tolerastov" that played with the junta, and finally the liberals and the chill ran down the spine!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 16 October 2014 08: 55
      +9
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      I personally liked the "torchlight procession" of the Nazis! why? Yes, because finally all of Europe shuddered remembering the analogy! now begins to reach "tolerastov" that played with the junta, and finally the liberals and the chill ran down the spine!

      These processions were regularly held since the time of Yushchenko !!! What did not shudder before? am am am
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 16 October 2014 10: 59
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        These processions were regularly held since the time of Yushchenko !!! What did not shudder before?

        U. Helen, well, apparently they were not so numerous and frankly fascist ... hi
        1. Ruswolf
          Ruswolf 16 October 2014 11: 16
          +1
          Andrey Yuryevich
          uv.elena, well, apparently they were not so numerous and frankly fascist

          Elena is right!
          It was after his trip to Canada that it all started. And the number of emigrants there (since the end of the 19 century) is so much that Canada is in third place for the Ukrainians who have a strong political position there.
          So Yushchenko, after arriving from Canada, opened the Museum of Achievements of Ukrainian Emigrants. And it was he who, at the request of the Canadian Ukrainian community, declared Bandera a hero.
          By the way, Canada was the first to officially recognize the genocide of Ukrainians, first by the tsarist government, and then, as the receiver of the genocide, by Bolshevitsky. Accusing both of them of the famine, with the aim of liberating the territories.
          1. Oldwiser
            Oldwiser 16 October 2014 15: 50
            0
            to the canadian - on a gilyak!
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        3. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 16 October 2014 15: 49
          0
          or on TV so much not PR or
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    3. 97110
      97110 16 October 2014 09: 58
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      the whole of europe startled recalling analogies

      And why did she suddenly startle? Israel and the same thing that beat the Jews, save Ukraine. Who in Europe remembers? Psheks? Sprats? Well who? Maybe the French, the Czechs? That is, the Yugoslavs. Who are they? Only the Russians remain. So we startled.
  11. DPZ
    DPZ 16 October 2014 08: 40
    +1
    I argue the same way as the author of the article, but this does not prevent me from panicking and the thought "what if they build a wall separating only the piece that they hold for Novorossiya" is constantly itching!
  12. DV69
    DV69 16 October 2014 08: 41
    +7
    The situation for the Kiev authorities is really critical. Yesterday, trade unions rallied in Kiev, demanding higher wages. The day before yesterday - conscripts from the National Guard. The right sector is not satisfied with the president and the government, but for one and the Rada.
    The only way out for those who are now leading the former Ukraine is a war with Russia. For this, torchlight processions, and shelling of cities of New Russia, and statements by odious Nazi politicians.
    There will be a war with Russia, there will be Western help, both financial and humanitarian.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 16 October 2014 08: 57
      0
      Quote: DV69
      Yesterday, trade unions rallied in Kiev, demanding higher wages. The day before yesterday - conscripts from the National Guard. The right sector is not satisfied with the president and the government, but for one and the Rada.

      Self-defense fighters blocked the center of Lviv, demanding demobilization
      Fighters of the third battalion of territorial defense of the Lviv region blocked the center of Lviv, demanding demobilization. It is reported by RIA Novosti.
      It is noted that among the protesters there are relatives of servicemen of the third battalion.

      Earlier, President Petro Poroshenko said that the demobilization of military soldiers in Ukraine would take place only after the establishment of a sustainable ceasefire in the Luhansk and Donetsk regions.
  13. 75 hammer
    75 hammer 16 October 2014 08: 42
    +6
    A very good forecast, only a little objectivity, everything that happens in hohloland, only on a smaller scale, happens in New Russia, and this is the main problem, there is neither Che nor Napoleon to show the goal towards which you need to move. Although it may be a disguise, look weak — being strong! I know one very difficult situation and it doesn’t become easier, people are dying, Natsik are jumping, and who is responsible for the shed blood? It is clear that patience is the best way, but civilians are dying and what is the solution is not clear.
    USA must be destroyed !!!
  14. Kep 123
    Kep 123 16 October 2014 08: 46
    +2
    That's right, the junta will ultimately be defeated, but the West will blame Russia for this again, although we will no longer get used to it, we will survive and be stronger
  15. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 16 October 2014 08: 49
    +5
    Thank. Good article. I agree with almost all the points.
    Deserved plus.
  16. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 16 October 2014 08: 51
    +6
    The author is a plus. The junta cannot have a quiet life. Their only justification for hunger and cold is war. And war is costly. But there is no money, and Europe "will not throw off" for the war. And in winter, gas will be stolen according to the well-known scheme. And Gazprom (here are the cunning ones) uploaded the reserve to strategic storage facilities In Europe! And now he can turn on the valve for a while without violating obligations. Plants in Novorossiya begin to work. And in dill they are closed. So ... Chickens are counted in autumn, but we should wait for spring.
  17. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 16 October 2014 08: 53
    +4
    I would not be so optimistic about the prospects of the war ... rested, understaffed troops ... with the support of aviation (from high altitudes you can work out areas) ... concentrated on a maximum of three directions ... can be a serious problem ... and again the loss of peaceful and not very ...
    To push the "international community to the recognition of the line of separation and the introduction of a contingent of troops into the buffer zone ... this could save thousands of people ...
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 16 October 2014 15: 55
      0
      Quote: silberwolf88
      troop entry into the buffer zone

      Bundeswehr Division will be led into the buffer zone. Then we go to Kharkov - will we push them into the asphalt?
  18. Siberian
    Siberian 16 October 2014 08: 54
    +4
    Yes, but providing the rear for the militia - this has not been canceled. As the saying goes (by the Italian mafia): in a storm, pray to God, but actively row to the shore.
    Minsk agreements, m. they will lead Lukashenko out of the dusk into the political arena. Stretched already Europe is not recognized. He is like pulling from a fairy tale about Aibolit: trying to pull in both directions. Of course, no one is going to implement the agreement and was not going to, like all the others (than Minsk is better than the others), it jumps in the media that the gas pipeline on the territory of Novorossia came to life, North Ossetia admitted, deep. relations are established, in Russia, representations from the republics, and so on, everything will go quietly and evenly (politically). But, of course, we must wait for what Strelkov will say and take.
  19. apolenkov
    apolenkov 16 October 2014 09: 08
    0
    As the old joke, "we slowly descended the hill and otymeem whole herd."

    if only this herd did not hide behind a shepherd from the USA.
  20. zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 16 October 2014 09: 09
    +9
    The author is 100% right. I try to communicate with old friends in Ukraine. It’s hard, but interesting. Compared to the beginning of summer and now, it’s already noticeably begun to be thought about how they will continue to exist — and about cotton and putler less and less, and all more about Kiev. That the second round will begin soon (The guys write from there - don’t watch TV, they’re lying about everything that is in Russia, that in Ukraine, and they just tell the truth, they are prepared for an adult) All this canoe in Ukraine will not go less than 3-5 years with periodic shootings. But at the expense of Europe, I’m calm, the elections in France are not so far away, Spain and Italy have problems with the regions, so they won’t be up to Ukrov. Well, ordinary people are already outraged by the behavior of any Femen and other independent figures in the EU.
    So let's see how one old, wise Jew said
    1. pr 627
      pr 627 16 October 2014 10: 05
      +4
      I agree that this chaos will not end quickly 3-5 years, maybe more. The collapse of Ukraine is becoming an objective reality.
  21. muhomor
    muhomor 16 October 2014 09: 11
    +2
    When the time comes to "descend from the mountain" it may turn out that the active part of the militia simply will not be - they will go home. The leadership of Novorossiya may also be docked. Although I agree with the author about the start of the junta offensive, before November 2.
  22. nomad
    nomad 16 October 2014 09: 28
    +3
    May they not freeze. They will have both gas and coal. "The water is muddied" by our traders, they are the first and will run to offer non-long-term assistance, at the expense of future "some" dividends.
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 16 October 2014 10: 44
      +1
      And the tariffs? They have already tripled. Something is inaudible that in Kuev they gave hot water and heating.
  23. Riz-a
    Riz-a 16 October 2014 09: 41
    0
    Quote: zadorin1974
    That round two will begin soon



    Yes, yes, we ask, we ask! Indomitable Baba Yaga Tymoshenko's Bone Leg - Get Out!
  24. shishakova
    shishakova 16 October 2014 09: 48
    +1
    Thank you!
    "... what is happening always has its own internal logic ..."
    The author is right, and victory will be in Novorossia. You can’t argue with logic))
  25. ferdiperdozzz
    ferdiperdozzz 16 October 2014 10: 04
    0
    Quote: zadorin1974
    . I try to communicate with old friends in Ukraine. It's hard, but interesting.

    It’s good for you, but my friends in Kiev have Skype statuses like this:

    "When our tanks enter Moscow, we will feed many."

    So think about how it will be ...
    1. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 16 October 2014 11: 10
      0
      We do sports, here we exchange experience and design decisions, so you have to keep your ardor, you’ll be rude to be banned, but otherwise everything will be the same.
  26. firevvs
    firevvs 16 October 2014 10: 09
    0
    Great article! Exactly!
  27. Magadan
    Magadan 16 October 2014 10: 18
    +2
    And I will now put cons to all authors with "However". I used to admire them, I copied articles. And then there was an "awakening" - theirs is this style in the spirit of "all is well beautiful marquise" - the usual smokescreen to divert people's attention from Novorossiya. Calm down the people so that everything can be drained off quietly.
    However, I argued there in the forum, gave arguments against the same mantra about "America-wants-to-incite us." Very quickly I was banned, the posts were removed. Then the article was cloudy, we are here on V.O. minus, about the fact that kaklam need to supply gas in any way, with all sorts of discounts, etc. Like, stop waiting for the kakly "to crawl on their knees." I wrote that we don't give a damn about "kneeling cocks", we need the death of dill, tk. then Novrossia will survive.
    Again banned, posts deleted.
    In short, the authors from However, are also SECT kurginyaki. They carry the dregs of information. Our vigilance is dulled
    1. Oldwiser
      Oldwiser 16 October 2014 15: 59
      0
      "Our enemies will attack the general line of the party from all sides - both from the left-radical and from the right-conservative." Who could say that?
  28. Zomanus
    Zomanus 16 October 2014 10: 21
    +1
    People. In any case, it remains for us, for the most part, to sit and watch. Personally, since April I have been reading articles that literally in a couple of months there will be no Ruins. And the fuel at the nuclear power plant will end and the treasury will be empty and the fuel in the tanks will end and ... and ... and ... In short, speculation above the roof. But we must understand that even though ruin and ruin, but there is still something to sell. And they will buy. At least for the sake of what we did not get. So for many years we will still be discussing the collapse and degradation at hand.
  29. marshal
    marshal 16 October 2014 10: 31
    +3
    the truth is somewhere in the middle ... the "bad peace" in Ukraine is largely the result of the "work" of our rotten elite (agents of Western influence) and was organized at the most inopportune moment ... on the other hand, the possibility of the militia should not be exaggerated, although they could control a large territory ... in the current situation there really is a small hope for self-destruction and further discrediting of Ukraine ... but most likely for this they will have to firmly insert them again, including at the cost of their own significant human losses ... and only then mono will hope to organize a full-fledged Novorossia with Odessa and Kharkov (Odessa is especially important in terms of the annexation of Pridnestrovie to Novorossia with a corresponding land border).
  30. slizhov
    slizhov 16 October 2014 11: 15
    +2
    everything, of course, is logical, but there’s no strength left to wait for them to devour each other.
    It’s also not clear what Mariupol’s weapons will go to with Novorossia’s weapons, if department stores, as they say everywhere, are covered and groundhogs force the militia to think about whether everything will work out ???
  31. Signature
    Signature 16 October 2014 11: 23
    +4
    The author, as far as I managed to inquire about him, is a hero. Moreover, undoubted. But I’m not able to swing at heroes at all (neither my mind nor my hands categorically agree to this ...).
    But to object - I object. First, it may happen that, having launched a "new attack on Novorossiya," the junta, nevertheless, will not show itself "as an aggressor before international authorities."
    For one reason: international authorities will see only what they want and need. Otherwise - they would have seen a lot!
    Secondly, while you are sitting on a hill and carefully observing what is happening at its foot, you certainly cannot lose yourself.
    But what about those who are at the foot of the hill and are more afraid of death to lose someone? Or "just" does not want / cannot see the corpses of peaceful (unarmed) people who, just in case, are killed by the same "dill"?
    In other words, I am simply hinting at the impossibility of accepting the situation identically from two different positions: when you are on a hill ("above the fight") and when you are at a hill, i.e. as one of the herd that several "generals" want to "fuck off" at once ...
    Humans - they are not a herd ...
  32. Wolka
    Wolka 16 October 2014 12: 45
    +2
    the article agrees with the author, on the whole the assessment of the situation is quite correct, but I dare to add to the author that no later than November 2 in Kiev and in the western regions a wave of crime of unprecedented proportions will sweep over, for I received all these fascist dogs and especially zealous ukrovoyaki from the Armed Forces in the next once in the face and firmly received, they will begin to blot out their evil for the defeat in the Donbass to those who remained in the rear, i.e. on the civilian population, both the police and the SBU are definitely not helpers here, and all this will continue until the adequate representatives of the people themselves take up arms, pitchforks and axes and begin to destroy this gangster fascist scum ... then there will come a sobering from this frenzy and understanding of what they have done with their Svidomo ...
  33. brdnxela
    brdnxela 16 October 2014 12: 50
    +2
    All this clowning is due to the embodiment of the hohlo-principle of life: "MAY HATA I will hide!"
  34. Koryatovich
    Koryatovich 16 October 2014 17: 47
    +1
    In addition, after defeats in the east, Nazi ressentiment is demanding compensation, so they are deploying a company of terror against the Orthodox churches, pushing even more people away and once again will expose themselves to evil goblins in front of the entire planet. European politicians find it harder and harder to explain to their citizens, therefore they support the obvious neo-Nazi regime in Kiev.


    But can the proofs of terror against Orthodox churches be possible? as I understand it, against the ROC MP?
  35. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 16 October 2014 23: 36
    0
    But Russia itself has not yet recovered from many years of collapse! Crimea - this is what you could afford, they invest in it, and they will still invest, and the return so far is only on the horizon! Donbas is larger in territory and population, but do you Russians pull now ?! I doubt it! If only because Geyropa herself is not going to invest heavily in the almost seized Ruin, there is no strength, no funds. The USSR, at one time, was overstrained by helping half the world, and it was much more powerful than a lonely Russia, which just now began to acquire allies and reliable friends! Your Putin is the LEADER! He knows for sure what Russia can do, and with what he will have to wait until better times!
  36. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 16 October 2014 23: 39
    0
    But everyone forgot about the tear of a child ...
    An unprepared assault on Mariupol would shed countless children's tears on both sides!
    And most importantly, in vain DIED !!!
  37. sharp-lad
    sharp-lad 16 October 2014 23: 39
    0
    But everyone forgot about the tear of a child ...
    An unprepared assault on Mariupol would shed countless children's tears on both sides!
    And most importantly, in vain DIED !!!
  38. Prager
    Prager 20 October 2014 15: 14
    0
    I have no doubt that the junta in Kuyeva dug in for a long time. only Ukrainians themselves can blame it, and now they are almost all infected with the virus of Nazism and Russophobia. These are the same Georgians from 2008.