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In India, crashed Su-30MKI

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The fighter Su-30MKI crashed in the western state of Maharashtra in the western region of the country, reports "Russian newspaper" with reference to the NDTV channel. It is noted that both pilots have ejected and did not suffer.



The incident occurred in the Lohegaon base area, located on the outskirts of the city of Pune. Data on the causes of the disaster yet, but it is reported that this is the fourth incident since the beginning of the supply of Su aircraft in the Indian Air Force.

Currently, Su planes are manufactured in India under the license received by the Hindustan Aeronautics Aircraft Building Corporation.
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  1. killganoff
    killganoff 15 October 2014 12: 31
    +6
    Hindus they are Hindus ...
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 15 October 2014 12: 34
      +12
      Sir, you are in vain. Indians among the "brotherly" Air Force have the best training. With Vietnam they go head to head.
      But how Angola will fly on the former Indian Su-30K, the question is interesting ...
      1. Sabroc
        Sabroc 15 October 2014 13: 11
        +8
        As for the best, it's probably when you can not compare with something else, I witnessed the training of Indian sailors in 87. in 51 training detachment, subfloating in the city of Vladivostok, and so, the training material that our cadets mastered in one fell swoop, the Indians were given sweat and blood. What seemed to us elementary after the Soviet education, they often seemed inconceivable to them, so look at what the level of training implies, if our specialist is able to make competent technical and tactical decisions based on previously acquired knowledge, then it’s not at all a fact that it would seem to be an expert of another power equal to him.
        1. wow
          wow 15 October 2014 13: 30
          +3
          That's right. I came across similar "cadets" at 5 central training courses for flight and ITS in Frunze, Kyrgyz SSR (SAVO) in 85-89. The planes were broken at the expense of "times" that the Indians, that the Arabs, that the Africans.
        2. Lissyara
          Lissyara 15 October 2014 23: 02
          0
          I wrote about the "fraternal" ones. And not a comparison of the USSR and the "national cadres".
          Let us not confuse God's gift with fried eggs.
      2. sergeybulkin
        sergeybulkin 15 October 2014 13: 13
        +2
        Hindus are the best, wow, already the fourth plane crashed ...
        Every nearly 100 million bucks ...
        well done! keep it up!
        wassat
        1. Lissyara
          Lissyara 15 October 2014 13: 36
          -1
          The contract value of the Su-30MKI aircraft is 62,5 million greens (with long-term contracts for a period exceeding 5 years). This cost also includes the engineering support of the supplied equipment, which is about 25% of the contractual value of the aircraft.
          Further, let's consider how many Su and MiGs were "laid" in the Russian Air Force?
          1. Lissyara
            Lissyara 15 October 2014 22: 03
            0
            Yes, at least give me 100 minuses. In contrast to the Internet, I see the real picture, because I work with this, starting from "poltashka" and ending with IA.
            You, like Chapai! Have you won? Hooray!
            B..i! It did not work out, but fix it.
            I'm not going to prove to morons that aviation is the work of real men, well, but those pes ... ki who made me minuses "out of anger" ... God will judge.
            And the pilots are beating in any air force in the world. This work.
        2. Steel loli
          Steel loli 15 October 2014 13: 41
          -2
          Just 4 more F-35 from America to buy)
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      3. ruslan207
        ruslan207 15 October 2014 17: 56
        0
        Ridiculously good preparation. Well, the country is not fighting losses. Half of the fleet lost.
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    2. igor1981
      igor1981 15 October 2014 12: 34
      +8
      Quote: killganoff
      Hindus they are Hindus ..


      You never know what could happen, it’s good that the pilots survived, and it would be better if we bought airplanes from us, and did not do them under a license.
    3. Afblgh
      Afblgh 15 October 2014 12: 35
      -21
      When will Russia also collapse?
      1. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 15 October 2014 13: 05
        +3
        Quote: Afblgh
        When will Russia also collapse?
        - start to rejoice and jump?
      2. Proud.
        Proud. 15 October 2014 13: 19
        +8
        Quote: Afblgh
        When will Russia also collapse?

        The point is that the Indians, with a certain frequency, "drop the shoals." That is, they use the left "shells" for firing from T-90 tanks, as a result of which the tank guns (barrels) fail. "(which was built by Russia, for the Indian Navy) Russian batteries for Indian, as a result of which (the main version) the submarine catches fire and sinks in the port of Mumbai. Hence the given comment -" Indians they are Indians ... ".
        1. Afblgh
          Afblgh 15 October 2014 13: 44
          -3
          But do not imagine them as stupid and backward, and those who revile them quite possibly write this using Indian technology. If the Indians read such comments, then they would never want to have anything in common with Russia.
          1. Proud.
            Proud. 15 October 2014 14: 42
            +2
            Quote: Afblgh
            But do not imagine them stupid and backward

            Nobody does this. It's about the "creative thinking" of the Indians, and the facts that take place.
            Quote: Afblgh
            those who reproach them quite possibly writes this using Indian technology

            The place of assembly does not always coincide with the place of creation.
            Quote: Afblgh
            If the Indians read such comments, then they would never want to have anything in common with Russia.

            It is a pity that I do not know a single official language of India, out of 21. However, like the rest of the 1.652 dialects. Perhaps I would read not always flattering statements about Russia and the Russians.
        2. Dreamwriter
          Dreamwriter 15 October 2014 14: 26
          0
          Well, they are trying to use their own developments, coupled with Russian technology. So far, their level of technology does not reach normal operation - however, in the very intention, I do not see anything bad at all.
      3. pavel_SPB
        pavel_SPB 15 October 2014 13: 31
        0
        guy, why did you get on here ??? well, go download and meet the 2nd regiment of the Airborne Forces of the Russian Federation near Donetsk Airport.
    4. KORESH80
      KORESH80 15 October 2014 22: 00
      +1
      One of the pilots was the commander of the wing Sindhartha In Munge. Prior to that, he was already in the Su-30 crash in 2009. By the way, the glider of the aircraft was almost not damaged! Hook 2 Su-30x fool !
      1. STALGRAD76
        STALGRAD76 15 October 2014 23: 55
        +1
        Future McCain? He’s probably from the right caste
  2. Keeper
    Keeper 15 October 2014 12: 31
    +2
    Perhaps the pilots did not quite learn the Russian car. NOT used to ..
    Or they can deliberately "bang" it in order to buy more Efok a'vile ...
    1. nikoli25
      nikoli25 15 October 2014 12: 33
      +2
      just an indian assembly ....
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 15 October 2014 12: 48
        +1
        By your logic, our planes should not fall at all. The assembly is Russian ...
        1. Yeraz
          Yeraz 15 October 2014 13: 12
          +2
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          By your logic, our planes should not fall at all. The assembly is Russian ...

          This is what touches people who believe that Russian technology is not knocked down or breakable !! Cheers of patriots, technology is technology !! They fell in Afghanistan, they fell in Chechnya, they fell in Ukraine, but like in Iraq or India, something Russian fell, then local, then a special action against the military-industrial complex of the Russian Federation. God forbid it’s ridiculous to hear it every time.
          1. theadenter
            theadenter 15 October 2014 15: 30
            0
            Ditch 4 drying - here it’s already dirty.
        2. ilya_oz
          ilya_oz 15 October 2014 13: 29
          +1
          They themselves are licensed.
        3. Iline
          Iline 15 October 2014 17: 51
          0
          Yes, it’s not at all in the assembly. Old Soviet-built fighters also fought with enviable consistency. Most likely, the level of preparation of aviation equipment for flights is zero.
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    3. Lissyara
      Lissyara 15 October 2014 12: 55
      +3
      Talking personally with Indian pilots, I can say the following. That those pilots who fly in "thirties" are equated with the highest caste, and they live there at the same level as cosmonauts lived in the USSR in the 60s - 70s of the last century.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 15 October 2014 13: 02
        0
        This is the best that they have, which means that the pilots must be "on the level". Well done, Indians hi
      2. Hairy Siberian
        Hairy Siberian 15 October 2014 13: 05
        +1
        Quote: LiSSyara
        Perhaps the pilots did not quite learn the Russian car. NOT used to ..

        Maybe the Indians are training intensively, in the sense of flying at extreme modes. Therefore, they fall so often.
        1. Lissyara
          Lissyara 15 October 2014 13: 15
          +3
          Hairy Siberian, not my quote.smile
          Nevertheless, in any Air Force they fly according to the instructions, and no one pushes the equipment to transcendental modes (not flight test work).
          "In aviation, all instructions are written in blood."
          1. Hairy Siberian
            Hairy Siberian 15 October 2014 13: 24
            0
            Quote: LiSSyara
            Hairy Siberian, not my quote

            Come on, I think the Guardian is not offended. smile
          2. oblako
            oblako 15 October 2014 16: 41
            0
            It is necessary to look for how many flight hours 4 accidents, find out the reasons, then draw conclusions. An ideal design does not exist, as well as an ideal assembly, as well as pilots and weather conditions ... or else, "Indians are Indians", and we ourselves are not Indians or what? This is an ancient civilization, by the way, akin to us even in genotype. The Indians took part in joint exercises with US pilots on the SU-27, in my opinion, and during the training battles they showed comparable skill with the American ones and won even more victories than the Americans.
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    4. Berxen
      Berxen 15 October 2014 13: 04
      +1
      Hindus fly 30 cars longer than ours. And started earlier.
    5. Dreamwriter
      Dreamwriter 15 October 2014 14: 23
      0
      Yes the fuck did not surrender to the Indians Ame.ikanskie Efki. Zadolbali, by golly.
  3. Giant thought
    Giant thought 15 October 2014 12: 32
    +6
    It is possible that the cause of the accident lies precisely in Indian production.
    1. MIV999
      MIV999 15 October 2014 12: 34
      +1
      Let's change
      "quite possible"
      to the word "Obvious", and then I completely agree drinks
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 October 2014 12: 32
    +5
    Nothing can be trusted to the Indians. Especially complex licensed equipment to produce. Let them buy from us.
  5. Fire
    Fire 15 October 2014 12: 39
    +3
    Hindus Indians but I think that our designers need to carefully study all the smallest details of the crash! recourse And what they will write and say is everyone’s opinion hi Here is my personal opinion: lack of pilot experience hi
  6. Dude
    Dude 15 October 2014 12: 40
    +2
    It’s not enough to buy an airplane; it needs to be serviced annually. And the service, Russian specialists, gets into a pretty penny ... This is all the savings most likely, well, the human factor is unique!
  7. exiv200gt
    exiv200gt 15 October 2014 12: 41
    +2
    Sorry for the car! It would be better if they sent fennel to New Russia.
  8. tlauicol
    tlauicol 15 October 2014 12: 42
    +1
    maybe they tried to raise "Brahmos"?
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 15 October 2014 12: 59
      0
      Or Super Dry
  9. Dibur
    Dibur 15 October 2014 12: 42
    +1
    The license is a complicated thing. No one will forbid them to change the part or block of one article for a similar, but slightly different. The result is a failure. While there are no official complaints, they themselves screwed up.
  10. iner
    iner 15 October 2014 12: 46
    +1
    4 cars, this is systematic. Interestingly, were the reasons for other crashes voiced?
    What were the findings, and what was undertaken by the Indians.
    And then they make mistakes, and this as a whole casts a shadow of insecurity on our planes.
  11. father nikon
    father nikon 15 October 2014 12: 47
    +1
    The coloring of the airplane in the photo for the article is identical to the coloring of the wagon products of Uralvagonzavod!
    1. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 15 October 2014 12: 58
      +2
      The coloring of the airplane in the photo for the article is identical to the coloring of the wagon products of Uralvagonzavod!
      Shhhh ... This is it. And as it should be in the delivery set: with a file and instructions for revision. One incorrect "vzhiiik" file and that's it, it doesn't fly.
      laughing
      1. Hairy Siberian
        Hairy Siberian 15 October 2014 13: 18
        +1
        Quote: abrakadabre
        The coloring of the airplane in the photo for the article is identical to the coloring of the wagon products of Uralvagonzavod!

        The F-1 Force India team has the same color scheme:
  12. Viktor Kudinov
    Viktor Kudinov 15 October 2014 12: 51
    0
    Hard to learn - easy in battle. Aircraft lost in peaceful conditions will save planes and lives in combat conditions. soldier
  13. doctor
    doctor 15 October 2014 12: 52
    0
    Let Russian aviation have the number of takeoffs equal to the number of landings. good And our KAR, KAR, KAR are staple and NATO. laughing
  14. Roman_999
    Roman_999 15 October 2014 12: 52
    0
    I understand that this Sukhoi is of Indian origin? If so, then the question is not on our side, but on the line manufacturer-transporter-air force.
    PS Maybe material fatigue, an error in the alloys. The Indians need help - firstly, it is a big market; in the first place, they have never been at war with us, why should we brave good and conscientious partners. Need help, technically evaluate what happened 4 times and find the jambs.
    1. Lissyara
      Lissyara 15 October 2014 13: 28
      0
      They have a 95% screwdriver assembly. The whole set comes from Russia. That is why, in terms of parameters, the aircraft are the same as those of our assembly, in contrast to China.
      "Xerox Country" does everything on its own, but even as an example, no matter how many tried to grind turbine blades equal to ours, it’s just a fig. Technology, my friend! smile
  15. Berxen
    Berxen 15 October 2014 12: 52
    0
    Even in the Indian assembly, the ejection seat and engines are ours. According to OKB, 2 rumors go:
    1) about spontaneous bailout on landing;
    2) problems with the engine landing.
  16. abdrah
    abdrah 15 October 2014 12: 54
    0
    The Hindus have a strange state for over 3 thousand years, they divide each other into castes, that is, if you were born in a family of warriors, then you will be a warrior, but if your parents were assenizers, then you’ll go there too. In the sky, it is better to know where someone should have been born, even if from this "kshatriya" a warrior is like from a city ... and a bullet he will be a warrior. Probably this is the main reason for the fall of vivana (su 30mki), and other accidents and incidents, recently the submarine was sunk and strained with the guilty ...
    "A good religion was invented by the Hindus" - VS Vysotsky.
  17. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 15 October 2014 13: 01
    +1
    It is necessary to conduct an investigation because it is impossible to establish the causes of the crash from the materials specified in the article.
    And sitting and guessing on your fingers is an unprofessional approach.
  18. eagle11
    eagle11 15 October 2014 13: 09
    +2
    The loss of 4 cars is not so much, considering that the Su-30mki has been in operation since the late 90s, plus a very large average annual raid of Indian pilots (the largest in the world). If we compare with the accident rate of the Su-27, or Mig-29 in calculating the flight hours for one incident, the result will not be in favor of these.
  19. Jackking
    Jackking 15 October 2014 13: 27
    0
    No wonder the French do not want to transfer the production of Rafaley to India ...
  20. Dreamwriter
    Dreamwriter 15 October 2014 14: 19
    +1
    Here I read the comments, and I don't understand: what kind of dibilism? Guys, Sushki Indians have been receiving and producing since the 90s. During this time 4 crashed - do you think this is a lot? In recent months, at least three aircraft have crashed in our country after intensive training exercises. Stop making all sorts of nonsense about "Indians are stupid and backward" - they fly very well, even if they do not reach our pilots (only now, sorry, our pilots and America's Ikos pilots do not reach). And those who tried to remind about it, you minus mercilessly. It's just that we really got the constant throwing of some commentators out of love for hate and vice versa.

    If on the topic - I'm glad that the pilots ejected.
    1. Verden
      Verden 15 October 2014 14: 35
      0
      Comment Respect.
      "Throwing from love to hate" in pursuit of pluses really looks disgusting.
  21. Watchman
    Watchman 15 October 2014 15: 13
    0
    If you collected yoga, then everything is clear.
  22. Raptor77
    Raptor77 15 October 2014 18: 38
    0
    LiSSyara - don't you work in Irkut?