In the appointment of Poltorak as Minister of Defense of Ukraine, the DPR authorities see further fascization of the country

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The Deputy Prime Minister of the DPR, Andrei Purgin, considers the appointment of Stepan Poltorak as Minister of Defense of Ukraine as another symptom of the fascization of Ukrainian society, reports RIA News.

In the appointment of Poltorak as Minister of Defense of Ukraine, the DPR authorities see further fascization of the country


Recall, on Monday Poroshenko submitted to the Verkhovna Rada a proposal to appoint Stepan Poltorak, commander of the National Guard under Ukraine, to the post of defense minister.

«There is a rapid fascization of Ukrainian society. Appointment of Poltorak as Minister of Defense is another of his symptoms., - considers Purgin. - This is a very odious person who covers all the crimes of the National Guard, through which all of the National Guard went. Suffice it to say that 70% of the National Guard has not yet been registered, these militants, who were given automatic machines, are not on any lists. ”.

“The fascization of society is going fast, it’s enough to compare the headlines of Ukrainian newspapers now and a year ago. The contrast is striking. Now you begin to understand how the Third Reich grew in Germany in two or three years. ”- said Deputy Prime Minister.

Earlier, Russian military expert Igor Korotchenko said: “Poltorak is a staunch supporter of military-repressive, tough police measures to clean up the Donbass, and his appointment as Minister of Defense means Kiev’s readiness to continue the war in the southeast”.

Nevertheless, Ukrainian expert Mikhail Pogrebinsky believes that "if Poltorak’s candidacy is approved by the Verkhovna Rada, then the tasks of the new head of the department will be more peaceful."
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  1. +7
    14 October 2014 10: 49
    Nevertheless, Ukrainian expert Mikhail Pogrebinsky believes that "if Poltorak’s candidacy is approved by the Verkhovna Rada, then the tasks of the new head of the department will be more peaceful."

    Dill did not have any military generals loyal to the current government (lustrate however), so they put schizophrenics, one worse than the other ...
    1. +3
      14 October 2014 10: 54
      Quote: vdtomsk
      Nevertheless, Ukrainian expert Mikhail Pogrebinsky believes that "if Poltorak’s candidacy is approved by the Verkhovna Rada, then the tasks of the new head of the department will be more peaceful."

      Dill did not have any military generals loyal to the current government (lustrate however), so they put schizophrenics, one worse than the other ...

      It’s more like a bell for the militias to start soon Madhouse 2
    2. +22
      14 October 2014 10: 55
      I looked at the photo. Not figuring it out, I think why it was Serdyukov who put the xoxlack form on himself.
      1. +2
        14 October 2014 11: 17
        In the Internal Affairs Directorate, as for the Ministers of Defense, they, as in mathematics, do not change the sum of changes in the terms!
        1. +2
          14 October 2014 12: 06
          Fanatics and fascists never finished well. Politicians may try one thing, but people for the most part think different.
      2. +3
        14 October 2014 15: 56
        Quote: sergey32
        I looked at the photo. Not figuring it out, I think why it was Serdyukov who put the xoxlack form on himself.

        Ha ha. Exactly Taburetkin. In such trucks, the Nazis will always be in shit. Water the people of the National Guard.
        1. +1
          14 October 2014 18: 56
          Erysipelas approx. in a week you will not cheat. And a truck painted, like a banana king.
    3. +2
      14 October 2014 11: 18
      Quote: vdtomsk
      here they put schizophrenics, one worse than the other ...

      Let's see how long this one lasts. But Russia needs to invite Geletey to the May 9 parade in Sevastopol (if he is alive and will not sit), even if he is present.
    4. +3
      14 October 2014 11: 38
      Quote: vdtomsk
      here they put schizophrenics, one worse than the other ...
    5. 0
      14 October 2014 11: 47
      They cannot have normal ones.
    6. +1
      14 October 2014 13: 30
      There have never been military generals in the Ukrainian army. Since 1991. Ukraine did not take part in any military conflicts. The UN mission in Yugoslavia and participation in the occupation of Iraq do not count. So where do military generals come from in Ukraine? But there are enough hawks and Nazis like this Poltorak.
      1. 0
        14 October 2014 20: 07
        The DNI is worried that the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine headed Poltorak and the elections are not at all worried, and it is precisely this convocation of the Rada that will consist of solid Nazis. In fact, there is no where to wait for good news from.
        The war simply faded into the background until spring, and there are a lot of plans!
  2. +4
    14 October 2014 10: 50
    Nevertheless, Ukrainian expert Mikhail Pogrebinsky believes that “if Poltorak’s candidacy is approved by the Verkhovna Rada, then the tasks of the new head of the department will be rather peaceful.” Probably, it will be “peaceful.” To destroy all living things.
    1. +4
      14 October 2014 11: 06
      I agree, Ismagil!
      Peacefully kill, peacefully hammer with MLRS, peacefully "pour" phosphorus shells ...
      It's all dill: Peace war!
      As for the fascization of dill - so it remains only to arrange night processions with torches, killing all the "unwanted" on the way and building concentration camps "for those who disagree"! And "Cyclone B" will not keep itself "long in coming"!
      1. 0
        14 October 2014 11: 26
        dear 'asar "please state your name.
    2. +5
      14 October 2014 11: 12
      Quote: provincial
      However, Ukrainian expert Mikhail Pogrebinsky believes

      Yes, we know this Pogrebinsky. Not so long ago he praised the Yanukovych regime, today he sings the same praises of today's Bandera-fascist government. The same can be said about the rest of the Ukrainian "experts" - political scientists Fesenko, Bondarenko and others. They were at least loyal to the Yanukovych government, spoke evasive words, and today they have suddenly become notorious Ukrainian "patriots" and are blaming Ukrainian language with might and main And not a word about the violent seizure of power, violation of the constitution, etc. ... As for this Poltorak, he is an ordinary bureaucratic bribe-taker who made his way to the very top only thanks to large monetary donations. His credo is: mercilessly tore down his subordinates and flexibly bend over to the authorities. As the saying goes, you don't need a special mind for this. It is enough to look at his fat pig face and everything will become clear. Boor! Well, a smart strong-willed person simply cannot have such an appearance. I am sure that not even two or three months will pass like this Poltorak. will also disappear into oblivion, like the three previous war ministers who replaced each other in less than seven months.
      1. +1
        14 October 2014 13: 19
        I don’t agree with you, this one will last quite a long time, unless of course you appoint it, your look is cunning, sly, it will spin as you can, only at such a feeder can it stay. What a swing, this is not the National Guard, but the Armed Forces of the country!
  3. +4
    14 October 2014 10: 51
    Another half of strong fascism ... When will their hangover begin
  4. +3
    14 October 2014 10: 51
    Geletey, Poltorak - all one: to defeat New Russia will not work!
  5. +2
    14 October 2014 10: 53
    Look at his face! Cadet! How to put such a man at the head of the army ?! On his forehead it is written - GIVE! Although what is there to be indignant then? Khokhols are tormented, not us. With such "warriors" at the helm, everything will be stolen to the end hi
  6. +3
    14 October 2014 10: 54
    Dill followed the path of Nazi Germany. Poltorak - "Himmler" will form its own SS troops. So you look until the Hitler Youth will soon come to an end (or Ukropyugend). Sadly, however.
  7. Bullman
    +3
    14 October 2014 10: 54
    Fascization in the minds of Ukrainians has been going on for several years. And in this case, it is the process of shaping thoughts.
  8. Nina Zima
    +14
    14 October 2014 10: 55
    did the Nazis rest a little? Potroshenko’s funeral business is experiencing an unprecedented rise ... coffins are snapped up like baked cakes ...
    1. 0
      14 October 2014 12: 11
      Not so much at a time belay
      1. 0
        14 October 2014 14: 26
        Quote: Horst78
        Not so much at a time

        So that's not all ... there are mass TEMPORARY burials in Dnepropetrovsk, Kharkov and wherever the anti-terrorist operation fighters took place, the "warriors" are waiting for them to be identified, but for now


        This is from their press:
        Unknown soldiers ... Sounds strange. Since the time of the Great Patriotic War, when search engines found relatives of a soldier in a flask, a pectoral cross, they have sunk into oblivion. Now everything is simpler: firstly, there should be tokens (indicating the name of the fighter). Further, if it is impossible to identify visually (for example, only fragments of the body remain), DNA tests exist.
        - Samples were taken from all buried soldiers. Subsequently, when they conduct analyzes and establish a personality, relatives can rebury their son or brother, ”says Svyatoslav Oleynik, deputy head of the Dnipropetrovsk Regional State Administration.
        “But why didn’t they immediately carry out the tests?”
        - It takes a month or two. Do you know how many bodies we have in morgues now? More than we can accept. The largest morgue is designed for 60 bodies. Therefore, the following practice was introduced: if the corpse is not identified within 10 days, we bury it in a mass grave.
        Amazing bookkeeping: analyzes take a month, and the identification period is only ten days. That is, mass graves can occupy fields. The chance remains only for those who can visually identify their own person.

        And they are already erecting such monuments to "ATO soldiers"
      2. +1
        14 October 2014 14: 34
        People 50-60 for races they will soon have to open new fields for the heroes of Ukrostan.
  9. 0
    14 October 2014 10: 55
    A real colonel ... and that’s it. And where is the commander in chief?
  10. +7
    14 October 2014 10: 57
    The alarming signal is that the bandit and fascist armed thugs are gaining combat experience and sooner or later will become a very serious threat. And this "Derzhimorda" will contribute to this, as the authorities gave him even more.
  11. Signature
    +5
    14 October 2014 10: 57
    Ukrainian fascists now - either voluntarily bend or finally jump onto the ridge of an unarmed people, while that - due to its total disarmament - has only one form of resistance - to "shoot" the fascists only with their eyes, and even verbally - in intercourse of poor Ukrainian pensioners on benches near shabby porches.
    Just do not "load" the guilt on the unarmed people for not showing resistance: against the scrap, alas, words are powerless ... Especially the words of truth - and precisely when they try to naively "press" on the consciousness of those whose consciousness atrophied a long time ago , or - in its direct apogee, an attack of old-chronic idiosyncrasy for the truth in any form! ..
    1. +4
      14 October 2014 11: 23
      There is no need for fairy tales about unarmed people - there is the experience of the partisan movement - they used to pitch with arms and take them away. As a result, partisan formations, partisan territories, where even the SS was afraid to go. Vladika. If everyone would stand up for their land, for their homes, for their families, Bandera would have chewed clover on the green area for a long time. And I don’t need to say anything about the difficulties, my friend, a classmate from Sverdlovsk flew into the militia and lay down there. Two girls 7 and 10 years old. What are they running?
      1. Signature
        +2
        14 October 2014 12: 05
        And I personally do not tell you anything: for a long time (due to my age) I can see who and what can be said. People like you are only looking for explanations why they personally do not really feel sorry for any "strangers" there - but never (unlike your FRIEND) you and your ilk will not help. It’s okay, they wouldn’t just slander, calming themselves ...
        By the way, you nobody will ask: do not worry (do not harm digestion)! And for you, Ukrainians are strangers, and for those who are not like you, they are not strangers! .. And their misfortune is not a stranger (all the more so because it is trampling on the threshold of your own house).
        In your opinion, it turns out that the Soviet people themselves were to blame for the fact that the fascists "ran over" on them.
        By the way, there are fascists in the Russian Federation, and even in the VO. And half of the "Ukrainian" fascists themselves are Russian by blood and language. If you follow your logic, then Russia should be responsible for life for these fascist "Russians".
  12. +4
    14 October 2014 10: 59
    Quote: sergey32
    I looked at the photo. Not figuring it out, I think why it was Serdyukov who put the xoxlack form on himself.

    Indeed very similar!
  13. 0
    14 October 2014 11: 02
    well, before the new year, it can also be idle if it does not collapse with the rada.
  14. +2
    14 October 2014 11: 11
    How pleased he is with himself! The mumbled rooster!
    But, in fact, it becomes alarming. While the declared truce is somehow, at the very least, the militia’s enemies are not asleep and are strengthening their positions, are making personnel reshuffles, and are learning. You have to be on guard guys.
    With such "commanders" the Natsiks will blow their heads off ...
  15. dyremar 66
    +4
    14 October 2014 11: 13
    Quote: sergey32
    I looked at the photo. Not figuring it out, I think why it was Serdyukov who put the xoxlack form on himself.

    But in fact, it’s similar to our furniture maker and it would be nice if such a minister would be Ukrainian, then they won’t be miners ...
    1. +1
      14 October 2014 11: 29
      But the idea is brilliant. Stool with Vasilyeva them there. Then in a couple of months the dill army will fight in shorts and with slingshots, feeding on pasture (although it is unlikely that snow will soon fall). wink
  16. +2
    14 October 2014 11: 15
    ........... Apparently, real military professionals in Ukraine are hungry for personnel, but because of such appointments ... well, everything’s like Bertold Brecht’s .. = .... they’re drumming, they’re coming sheep, their skin is pulled over the drums ........ = ... And while the drums of war in Ukraine sound very loud .....................
  17. Leonidych
    0
    14 October 2014 11: 19
    gentlemen are betting: will this fool hold on to NG
  18. +4
    14 October 2014 11: 46
    On the night of October 13, a group of servicemen of the 15th battalion of territorial defense - residents of the Sumy region - in the amount of 16 people went over to the side of the militia of Novorossia.

    The battalion was assembled from reservists, who were initially called up for 45-day training. These 45 days expired in late April and early May.

    Since June 9, 2014, the battalion has been on the territory of the Luhansk People's Republic. Part of the military personnel (near the platoon) was deployed northward in the town of Melovoye on the border with Russia.

    Go to the side of the militias, according to mobilized reservists, they were prompted by SMS messages and campaign mines with leaflets that flew into their location. At the same time, some messages with propaganda SMS messages come to soldiers from the numbers of their relatives and friends.

    Forced mobilized and sent to slaughter residents of the Sumy region were driven to despair and began to cross the border with Russia. One of the groups of defectors came under fire from a border detachment detachment that was forced to open fire. One sackman was killed, and four were injured.

    A day later, 16 fighters left the location and on the hijacked ZIL-131 they moved to the front line, arriving at the Don Cossacks checkpoint in the area of ​​Stanitsa Lugansk, reports Voenkor.info.
  19. +1
    14 October 2014 11: 52
    Real, sane, with combat experience, professional military men have long figured out the situation in the Ruin, and extremely unwilling to shoot at their people, as well as to be fouled like the Berkut, resigned or left the Ruin. The rescue of the drowning is a matter of their own hands. drowning people.
  20. +1
    14 October 2014 11: 54
    Germany stopped only in May 1945 when our tanks entered Berlin! And only our tanks will stop Ukraine, oh no more! Oh, they lost time, in April they would have done it easily! And how many lives would have been saved ......!?
  21. +1
    14 October 2014 11: 57
    Someone would doubt that Poltorak would continue the war, and for this he was set up.
  22. Verden
    +2
    14 October 2014 12: 00
    Maybe this is wrong, but I'm glad that the ukroarmiya is moving in such an attack: The Minister of Defense is a real fascist, the National Guard is now outwardly similar to the Americans, The UkroVDV wants to cancel the vest and takes, they want to change the military greeting to "gloryukraine" ...
    1. +3
      14 October 2014 12: 38
      I support them, they have nothing to stain the old Russian traditions. After all, they hate everything "maskalskoe" so much, they would rather refuse the Kalash, but somehow it doesn't turn out beautifully feel
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  24. Leonidych
    +1
    14 October 2014 12: 04
    but ukrov the experience of the Georgians does not teach anything? the poor tie-eater has already been denied a visa by the Americans
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  26. +2
    14 October 2014 12: 07
    The rapid fascization of Ukrainian society is taking place.

    Who would doubt that! Only this process has been going on for a long time.
    Today 14.10.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX declared the Day of the UPA establishment
  27. +2
    14 October 2014 12: 14
    Quote: Leonidych
    but ukrov the experience of the Georgians does not teach anything? the poor tie-eater has already been denied a visa by the Americans

    And you do not compare Ukraine and Georgia, the scale is not the same.
  28. ISKANDER25
    0
    14 October 2014 12: 28
    Hello! They want a little more blood!
    1. +4
      14 October 2014 12: 47
      Hello! They want a little more blood! - These are the bodies of militia fighters who died during an attempt to capture the airport in Donetsk in May.
    2. Nina Zima
      +1
      14 October 2014 13: 20
      They shot a car traveling with medical crosses, knew in advance that it was wounded and could not shoot back! then the war was not so brutal. Then everyone tasted the taste of blood and it started just a mess ...
      But now the point of no return has been passed and condemn the militias whether they have enough blood or more? They act according to the situation ...
      After the atrocities of the Nazis, it would be possible to go through the lions and a victorious march. but ... not yet evening ...
      and Farion and Tyagnibok and Babiyarosh and other scum to hang on posts, you can for one ... let them stink for clarity ... live broadcast to the whole world ...
  29. +1
    14 October 2014 12: 39
    And what is interesting, he reminded me of Serdyukov?
  30. +4
    14 October 2014 12: 41
    Pogrebinsky really blurted out some garbage. The appointment of Poltorak is definitely a desire to advance, only more skillfully and prepared. For one beaten they give two unbeaten, and the Ukrainian army this summer learned the truth from the blood. I think that such a “truce” will last somewhere another six months, until the onset of heat, and then a new offensive by the Ukrainian army will begin. The calculation of the Ukrainian authorities is simple - such a “truce” drains the militia’s forces, there is a constant expenditure of ammunition and constant losses in drugs, apparently, it’s already starting to break out at the top of the militia, who owes what and so on. Meanwhile, the Ukrainian army is replenishing, reservists can’t get out of the ranges, armored and aircraft repair plants began to work in three shifts, the KRAZ plant was loaded with orders for a year in advance, and, plus everything, foreign military aid, which was lacking this summer, began to slowly come (I tell you from the stories their friends who are fighting on the Ukrainian side). And most importantly, the DPR and LPR are hostages of big politics, Poroshenko can agree with the Kremlin, like we won’t turn off the gas valve, we won’t block the Crimea and Transnistria, and you just cut off the supply of arms and ammunition to the militia. And then more prepared and the more trained Ukrainian army will go on the offensive again, I think that they will change their tactics - they will no longer try to encircle and split into pieces the DPR and LPR in order to avoid boilers, but will simply squeeze out the militias by the number.
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  32. +2
    14 October 2014 13: 01
    What party of the world ????????

  33. +1
    14 October 2014 13: 07

    Here is one more confirmation that something wrong is going on at the top of the LPR and the DPR, already open threats of arrest are being heard.
  34. 0
    14 October 2014 13: 29
    This down probably wants to hold a parade in Moscow. To see their arsenal is unlimited.
  35. megerra
    0
    14 October 2014 13: 39
    Where more fascinate, sorry? http://jpgazeta.ru/general-psihonavt-geletey-pokinul-post-ministra-oboronyi-ukra
    inyi / One is leaving, the other is coming, everything is only getting worse, the country is falling apart, blood is pouring!
  36. 0
    14 October 2014 14: 21
    So Ukraine became one and a halfCancer. Looking and barking in the direction of Russia, and backwards where usually - to the EU.
  37. 0
    14 October 2014 20: 35
    Cool cap!

    Pigging up his people is pulling ... And, apparently, in further actions the emphasis will be more on the National Guard, and not on the APU.