TMK trench machine

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TMK trench machine


Fortifications are very important because they protect personnel and military equipment during combat operations. One of the simplest types of fortifications are trenches. The trench is a fortified earthen structure, which is intended for the sheltered movement of personnel on the battlefield, as well as firing from small weapons, observation and control of the fight. Trenches can be equipped with sites for the installation of machine guns, cells for shooters, as well as the most simple shelters for personnel units.

In appearance, any trench is a ditch of a certain length, which is dug in the ground. If its main task is to provide a concealed movement of personnel, various ammunition and other types of material, protected from enemy fire, along the front line or to the rear, then they are called “communication routes”. If a section of the trench is intended for firing small arms and equipped with positions for firing automatic weapons, grenade launchers and other small arms, as well as possibly diverse shelters for personnel (slots, shelters, dugouts), then this area is called a “small trench” or just "trench". For example, the “trench of the motorized rifle squad”.

Over time, the armies of the world needed to equip the troops with various trench excavators, which greatly simplified and accelerated the preparation of defense lines. Initially, equipping troops with excavators was carried out on the basis of the selection and testing of national-economy samples, but later (much later), through the development of special military models. A similar situation was typical for all classes of earth-moving military equipment, as well as other types of military engineering vehicles. The first trench excavators appeared in the USSR in the 30s of the last century.



During its existence, they have passed a serious path of development. In 1978, a new trench machine, TMK, was put into service. The trenching machine TMK is designed for digging trenches in non-frozen and frozen soils while equipping the defensive positions of the troops. This machine today relates to dual-use equipment and, as regards the set of its technical characteristics, most closely meets the army requirements and the requirements of the national economy.

TMK is a wheeled tractor based on the MAZ-538, on which trenching equipment and special dozer equipment was installed. This trench machine makes it possible to dig trenches in soils up to category IV inclusive (heavy clay with rubble, heavy clay, slate clay, density up to 1900-2000 kg / mX3). The machine is able to tear off a full profile trench with a 1,5 depth of meter in thawed grounds at a speed of 700 meters per hour, in frozen soils at a speed of 210 meters per hour.

The machine is equipped with a rotary tool body beskovshny type. The working equipment of TMK includes a hydraulic mechanism for raising and lowering the working body, a mechanical transmission. On the frame of the working body, there are passives of the passive type, which ensure the formation of inclined walls near the trenches. The soil lifted from the bottom of the trench with the help of throwers is scattered on both sides of the trench.



In addition, TMK has an auxiliary bulldozer equipment with a 3 blade width, which allows the machine to level the ground, fill ditches, holes, and dig pits and perform similar work. The basic wheel tractor MAZ-538, possessing a full drive, is equipped with a D-12А-375А engine, developing power in 375 hp Initially, the production was carried out at the Dmitrov excavator plant.

At present, the K-703МВ-ТМК-3 trench machine is in service with the Russian army. This trench machine, like its predecessors, consists of a base chassis, a rotary trench working body and a bulldozer. At present, the Special Design Bureau of Transport Engineering from St. Petersburg is engaged in the production of this engineering machine. It was decided to abandon the MAZ chassis, this model uses the well-known and recognizable K-703МВ wheeled tractor as the basic chassis, which is maximally unified with the K-703М industrial tractor. The modern TMK-3 trenching machine is a high-performance, highly mobile earth-moving device that easily finds its application not only in the Russian army, but also in the civil service.



The value of earth moving engineering equipment

Currently, earthmoving equipment is available in most engineering-sapper units and in all engineering-sapper units of combined-arms units. Mainly this technique is used to solve positional problems, which are closely related to the construction of fortifications. Their main task is to help combined-arms units to “bury themselves in the ground”. Often for an infantryman to dig deeper into the ground is the only way to survive a battle. Even during the Second World War, the American General Bradley loved to repeat to his soldiers: "Dig, or bury you yourself."



At the same time, the “army” excavation works themselves are not so different from others. But the difference is still there. The fact is that in addition to efficiency and productivity in military engineering technology, other qualities are valued. With a superficial resemblance, civilian and military engineering technology often has different performance characteristics. However, their working bodies usually do not have fundamental differences. Moreover, for many decades, there was no need for special army earth-moving equipment.

However, after the end of World War II, our command of the engineering troops made a conclusion about installing special equipment and machines on the most maneuverable and fairly high-speed chassis. Between the 1940-60 for years in order to reduce the cost and unification of weapons adopted combat vehicles, which have already been used in the troops (in other combat arms). However, the events in Czechoslovakia clearly showed that the available engineering vehicles were lagging behind the combined arms and subunits on the march. This was the starting point for the creation of military equipment specifically for the engineering troops.

At the same time, the value of earthmoving equipment should not be underestimated. The trench of the motorized rifle squad has a length of approximately 100 meters and requires man-hours at the level of 200-300 to open small infantry blades (better known as small sapper). Large shovels, which the infantry simply does not have, it would take 100-150 man-hours. That is, the motorized rifle squad will tear off their trench during 2-3 days (minimum). Naturally, the enemy does not always give the infantry so much time for arranging positions. At the same time, a machine like TMK will do the job in 15-20 minutes. The infantrymen will only have to re-equip their positions: to equip rifle cells and dig holes that are blocked. They will cope with this task in half a day. At the same time, a motorized rifle platoon stronghold has a length of main trenches and message strokes of approximately 900 meters. These are already 2,5-4 hours of work for TMK or almost a week of hard work for the entire personnel of a motorized rifle platoon.



In this case, the trench is very important. According to the operational and tactical standards, it ensures the stability of the 1: 3 or 1: 4 defense, that is, the motorized rifle squad, buried in the ground, is able to repel an attack of a similar platoon. If we take into account the existing experience of both Chechen campaigns, we can conclude that trained and resistant infantry, with competent command, will be able to keep the enemy near their trenches for weeks. It is no coincidence that in all wars, after a successful break through of the defense, commanders demanded from their units a persistent and round-the-clock pursuit of the enemy’s retreating units even at the limit of their capabilities. The main thing - do not give the enemy to stop. To allow enemy infantry units to stop and at least dig a little into the ground meant slowing down or completely stopping the offensive. Therefore, the value of such seemingly clumsy and "non-combat" machines, like TMK, is very large.

Information sources:
http://www.saper.etel.ru/texnica-2/tmk.html
http://www.saper.etel.ru/fort/trans.html
http://mil-history.livejournal.com/611616.html
http://www.specmash-kb.com/shell.php?id=0&lng=rus
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  1. +10
    14 October 2014 09: 35
    not a machine-DREAM egg-laying !!!! wassat
    1. +9
      14 October 2014 10: 29
      His dream is a hundred thousand free workers with their shovels.
      1. +10
        14 October 2014 11: 31
        The predecessor of TMK is the BTM high-speed trench machine:
        Modern version of BTM-4:
        1. +10
          14 October 2014 11: 48
          The staff of the regiment (MSP TP) has a PZM for each MSB (in TP - 1 pc. In MSP - 3 pcs).
          A very good car in 4 hours - 800 meters of a trench for laying the lighting cable, and for 2 days the division’s control was sitting on the same communication channel with the Moscow Region, well, we ... we cut the communication cable a bit feel .
          1. 0
            14 October 2014 13: 09
            TMK and PZM - are the functions the same? If they do the same thing, why create different machines?

            Shelf digger-2 (Zemlepoynaya_mashina_PZM-2) .djvu- https://yadi.sk/d/H0AjyoicbzZ2a

            BTM.djvu fleet trench machine - https://yadi.sk/d/4zOMFqpIbzZXy
            1. +2
              14 October 2014 16: 24
              Quote: igordok
              TMK and PZM - are the functions the same? If they do the same thing, why create different machines?
              PZM is a regimental earth-moving machine, has a lower productivity and is intended for the staff of the engineer-sapper company of the regiment, the BTM (TMK) high-speed trench machine is intended for the staff of the engineer-sapper battalion and the brigade that is part of the division and the army. These are just cars of different "caliber".
        2. 0
          14 October 2014 14: 19
          Quote: Canep
          BTM high-speed trench car:

          In the troops, this abbreviation was deciphered as "Big, but Little to Use", but in general, of course, the necessary car, it would be more reliable and the price would not be ...
          1. +3
            14 October 2014 16: 29
            Quote: svp67
            it would be more reliable and she wouldn’t have a price ...
            With reliability, everything is fine with her, during the construction of the training ground for the training center, one machine dug up all the trenches for cables, etc. One !, and has never seriously broken down all summer. The problem is that cars stand for decades (sometimes for 40 years!) In storage and all the gums just crack.
  2. Aydar
    0
    14 October 2014 09: 45
    From the video materials about the Chechen war I saw that ordinary civilian trenchers and graders on the tractor chassis Belarus were used more often and coped with the task no worse.
    1. +2
      14 October 2014 10: 38
      VVshniki used them, army-standard equipment. Civilian trenchers either have the same, or even higher price, or low productivity. For example, made on the basis of "Belarus" has a small digging width, which means they will have to work in several passes
    2. Князь
      0
      26 October 2014 13: 32
      Also, sapper shovels were used more often (as they say universal weapons)
  3. Tyumen
    +1
    14 October 2014 10: 30
    Why aren’t such cars used in civilian life? And then the Tajiks dig three trenches for three days, littering everything around them with doshiraki. Then they will dig in the same amount.
    1. +1
      14 October 2014 10: 48
      Often, handmade is cheaper. We are not Tajiks, and schoolchildren have been digging all summer.

      In general, they are used quite often, but others with a narrow digging width. In the country, 20 centimeters were cut wide and about a meter deep. Manual plastering, like a walk-behind tractor. I did not scatter the soil, they laid a plastic water pipe and buried it manually for a couple of days.
      1. Tyumen
        +1
        14 October 2014 12: 36
        Quote: Spade
        20 centimeters wide and about a meter deep. Manual plastering, like a walk-behind tractor.

        Interestingly, I have never met. We have sawed asphalt with gas cutters, and then manually.
    2. +4
      14 October 2014 19: 44
      Quote: Tyumen
      Why aren’t such cars used in civilian life?

      In the past millennium, in the region of Akhalkalaki, local Armenians needed to dig a trench under a pipe or cable (I don’t remember anymore). They drove the frail magarych to the warriors from the local garrison. they paved a trench for them in a couple of hours, got a magarych and dumped them off. The local pipe was quickly placed in a trench and opposite. It turned out there was nothing to dig in the trench because the soil was rather far scattered from the trench, and not neatly laid at its edge as local would like ...
      Moral: not everything is as good for the national economy as it is good for the army.
      1. +5
        14 October 2014 21: 20
        Quote: professor
        Quote: Tyumen
        Why aren’t such cars used in civilian life?

        In the past millennium, in the region of Akhalkalaki, local Armenians needed to dig a trench under a pipe or cable (I don’t remember anymore). They drove the frail magarych to the warriors from the local garrison. they paved a trench for them in a couple of hours, got a magarych and dumped them off. The local pipe was quickly placed in a trench and opposite. It turned out there was nothing to dig in the trench because the soil was rather far scattered from the trench, and not neatly laid at its edge as local would like ...
        Moral: not everything is as good for the national economy as it is good for the army.

        The military asked for the wrong car, it was necessary MD-10, by the way, he puts plastic at the pipe to a certain diameter, of course.
      2. Tyumen
        0
        14 October 2014 21: 59
        Thank! Professor, is anything planned about the anti-tank systems? Waiting, s.)
        1. 0
          15 October 2014 12: 10
          Quote: Tyumen
          Thank! Professor, is anything planned about the anti-tank systems? Waiting, s.)

          And what exactly are you interested in? In my opinion about the anti-tank systems everything has already been written before us.
          1. Tyumen
            0
            15 October 2014 14: 08
            Quote: professor
            everything is written before us.

            Are you about yourself personally?) Just kidding. From you, as a specialist, I would like to see some kind of comparative overview of existing and possibly promising types of these weapons. Such a narrowly focused article, otherwise the comments are good, but the whole picture is still better. Sincerely.
            1. 0
              15 October 2014 19: 14
              Already in the laid out. I can search for a link.
  4. +5
    14 October 2014 11: 38
    All this is interesting but !!! If anyone noticed, then the presented military equipment has absolutely no bulletproof and anti-fragmentation protection, and I think that this is very important when it comes to MILITARY, especially engineering equipment! Any little more or less small shell, fragments can disable it! And then again a shovel :)
  5. 0
    14 October 2014 11: 47
    2 days to dig? He did not serve in the army. I did not know that it took so long to make one trench.
    1. +5
      14 October 2014 12: 38
      You see what the ficus picus is ... Engineering equipment does not stop at all, as there is no limit to perfection. It all starts with single trenches for shooting lying down, and right up to blocked passageways and full-fledged shelters with filter-ventilation units.

      Extra charge, platoon stronghold is 1100 man-hours and 7 hours of tank operation
  6. Aydar
    0
    14 October 2014 12: 33
    Quote: arslan23
    2 days to dig? He did not serve in the army. I did not know that it took so long to make one trench.

    a trench dug by hand with a crowbar and shovel gives no real protection.
    1. Tyumen
      +1
      14 October 2014 12: 38
      And how does it differ from the trench of machine digging?)
      1. +3
        14 October 2014 12: 52
        Such a trench is more glamorous ...

        But in fact, everything is exactly the opposite. Hand-dug safer.
        Firstly, because personnel are protected almost all the time. Because digging begins with trenches for shooting lying down.
        Secondly, the trencher will not give such bends of the trench, which are formed by themselves when connecting the trenches.

        Well and most importantly, he is not aware that it is impossible to open the trenches in a completely mechanized way. Manual labor is always present. Even when opening a banal trench, the laying (that is, the top of the trench is wider than the bottom so that it does not fall asleep in it) and the berm (the area between the edge of the trench and the parapet) must be done manually.
        1. wanderer_032
          +1
          15 October 2014 00: 08
          Quote: Spade
          Hand-dug safer.


          Then, based on this logic, one should always do so laughing :

  7. Aydar
    0
    14 October 2014 12: 46
    Quote: Tyumen
    And how does it differ from the trench of machine digging?)

    I believe the depth, dear Watson, especially if the complex soil, some rocky.
    1. +5
      14 October 2014 12: 54
      Quote: Aydar
      I believe the depth, dear Watson

      laughing You can’t dig it so deep manually ???
      By the way, have you heard about such a thing as "trench charge"?
      1. +2
        14 October 2014 21: 11
        Quote: Spade
        By the way, have you heard about such a thing as "trench charge"?

        1. Mol
          Mol
          0
          15 October 2014 00: 00
          good
          "... The charge is ready for use!"
          Well, the fighters didn’t apply that ?! bully
  8. Aydar
    -1
    14 October 2014 13: 13
    Quote: Spade
    Quote: Aydar
    I believe the depth, dear Watson

    laughing You can’t dig it so deep manually ???
    By the way, have you heard about such a thing as "trench charge"?

    I haven’t heard about the "trench charge", but I think that anyone who has ever dug a vegetable garden or poured a foundation will agree that digging trenches by hand is much more laborious and unreliable than with the help of technology, - I think it’s stupid to deny, although in principle if you if you like to have sex with a shovel and a pickaxe in the scorching sun and with heavy soil, then this is of course your own business.
    1. +8
      14 October 2014 13: 29
      Time-consuming, yes. But it is an investment in one’s life and health, therefore it justifies itself.

      Quote: Aydar
      although in principle, if you like to engage in intimacy with a shovel

      I "was engaged in sex with a shovel" and in the scorching sun with rocky ground, and in the night winter forest (a trench for a tool per night at temperatures below 30 degrees four of us). Nothing wrong with that. And when life depends on it, the standard "one soldier, one shovel, one hour, one cubic meter" is overfulfilled with a margin for any soil.
      1. Aydar
        -8
        14 October 2014 13: 50
        Honestly speaking, your "heroic past with a shovel" makes you laugh a little, it seems that in the next comment you will write how you spent the night on the banks of the Oder in a raincoat, hugging the PPSh. If it is possible to dig a trench for a company or battalion with the help of technology, then why are the fighters and muzzle them with a pickaxe and a shovel? The only thing that would be reasonable, for example, for preparing positions without unnecessary noise - for an ambush, for example, or a reconnaissance group, when mechanized excavation will naturally attract a lot of unnecessary attention, but I doubt that trenches dug for these purposes will be better than those dug with the help of machines.
        1. +6
          14 October 2014 14: 54
          Quote: Aydar
          Honestly speaking, your "heroic past with a shovel" makes you laugh a little, it seems that in the next comment you will write how you spent the night on the banks of the Oder in a raincoat, hugging the PPSh.

          We were trained with high quality.

          Quote: Aydar
          If there is an opportunity to open a trench in a company or battalion with the help of technology, then why the fighters and muzzle them with a pickaxe with a shovel?

          If possible, this is good. But as practice shows, it is better to count on the fact that such an opportunity will not be. Then a trencher or excavator from sappers will be a pleasant surprise. But you need to rely on yourself, otherwise you can get a bunch of corpses.

          And again: it is impossible to dig a trench only with a machine, a manually dug a trench is safer than what was done with the participation of the machine.
          1. Aydar
            -7
            14 October 2014 15: 03
            And again: it is impossible to dig a trench only with a machine, a manually dug trench is safer than what was done with the machine. \\\\
            We know that we have also heard that the three-line is better than the Gß36, and a bayonet attack in full growth is more effective than preliminary notching of targets.
            1. +3
              14 October 2014 16: 28
              Quote: Aydar
              We know, we also heard that the three-line is better than the Gß36

              No, there are different associations. It's like "Thompsons" made with the maximum application of manual labor and stamped in the "Stan" toy factory
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        2. +4
          14 October 2014 15: 04
          What an abundance of words disguised dislike for earthworks ...
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  9. +4
    14 October 2014 13: 31
    The 1938 book "Military Engineering Technology" mentions a universal trench plow and a multi-bucket trench excavator.
    Military engineering equipment 1938.djv - https://yadi.sk/d/ojGm-ySGbzaXA
    In the photo and film documents of the Second World War, I have never seen such a thing. Was there such a technique in service with the Red Army?

    1. wanderer_032
      +3
      14 October 2014 19: 11
      Quote: igordok
      In the photo and film documents of the Second World War, I have never seen such a thing.


      And we climbed this in childhood. He stood abandoned for a long time.
      But it was painted not in khaki like all military equipment, but in the color of road-building equipment (orange).
      I think that in our village it was used to dig ditches of storm sewers, aggregating it with a tractor like C-100 or T-130.
      1. 0
        14 October 2014 21: 01
        Quote: wanderer_032
        And we climbed this in childhood. He stood abandoned for a long time.
        But it was painted not in khaki like all military equipment, but in the color of road-building equipment (orange).
        I think that in our village it was used to dig ditches of storm sewers, aggregating it with a tractor like C-100 or T-130.

        It was most likely that you had the "plow double-mold trencher", which is also mentioned in this book.
        1. wanderer_032
          +1
          14 October 2014 21: 18
          Quote: igordok
          It was most likely that you had the "plow double-mold trencher", which is also mentioned in this book.


          No, not him. Exactly the same aggregate as in the first image (Fig. 77), in your first comment. I recognized him right away. I don’t remember how many times exactly we climbed it, probably not one hundred.
          Directly one to one. Only wheels without lugs were, but the same diameter of the rim and spokes also stood. Probably the 50s of the release most likely.
          1. wanderer_032
            0
            14 October 2014 21: 42
            Similar aggregates with the same working depth of the finished trench were also used for digging ditches for fields with artificial reclamation.
            Several trenches broke off along the field, walls and the bottom were concreted, and water was pumped through a pumping station from a nearby reservoir (river, lake). These ditches were filled with water. Then a tractor with an irrigation installation walked across the field and watered the field taking water for irrigation installation from the irrigation ditches with a hose (sleeve) installed by the pump on the rear linkage of the tractor and the tractor transmission driven by the PTO (power take-off shaft). Often it was a DT-75 (at least for us).
            As a rule, vegetables were grown in such fields. Potatoes, cabbage, carrots, beets.
            That's where in the fall there was expanse.





    2. ICT
      +4
      14 October 2014 20: 02
      Quote: igordok
      In the photo and film documents of the Second World War,

      World War I, Germans
      just digging a photo archive
  10. +2
    14 October 2014 15: 14
    A good car, our grandfathers in the 43rd in the Kursk region would have such a ... Oh, then everything was dug up almost 5,5 thousand km of trenches with shovels
    1. +3
      14 October 2014 16: 59
      "To dig a 45mm cannon, you need to dig about 30 cubes of earth, 76mm is already 56 ..." Commander of the PT gun MP Badigin

      Information - Battle of Kursk:
      In the strip of the Voronezh Front about 4200 km of trenches and communications.
      Central front approximately 5000km
      Built 2000km of roads
      686 bridges erected

      Horror - there were probably hands in bloody corns.
  11. wanderer_032
    +5
    14 October 2014 19: 34
    Any engineering and construction equipment saves people time and effort.
    Unfortunately, not everyone understands this and everyone wants to strive to drive people to do the old fashioned way.
    They argue that it is "cheaper" and "more reliable".
    And with such questions that for such hard work people need enhanced nutrition, as well as organize their accommodation and provide with a trench tool (which is a considerable expense, because it often breaks down withstanding such loads) and other necessary materials, often forget it.
    In their opinion, it is better to drive hundreds or thousands of people for construction than one or two units of equipment that can replace this crowd and perform the same amount of work in a much shorter time and with significantly lower material costs (fuel, accommodation and meals are only 4- x, 8 people when working in several shifts). Even the costs of spare parts and consumables more than pay off, with higher productivity.
    This is precisely the case when technical superiority is indeed such.
    And it’s good that not all people think so. Many thanks to those engineers who design and introduce such wonderful and necessary equipment into production.
    1. wanderer_032
      +2
      14 October 2014 22: 30
      Here is a video on the topic, military digging engineering vehicles for various purposes at work:









      1. wanderer_032
        +1
        14 October 2014 23: 10
        And a bit more:



        1. wanderer_032
          0
          14 October 2014 23: 12
          The highlight of the program:

  12. 0
    14 October 2014 20: 28
    Yes, in the sapper company there are PZM, BAT with MDK, MTLB, PMZ 131, UR and many other useful equipment
  13. +3
    14 October 2014 20: 38
    Somewhat off topic. But how the Syrians use the mine clearance car in Damascus during the assault.
    1. ICT
      +1
      14 October 2014 21: 11
      it’s not a standard use in the first Chechen one, it’s the same way from lack of hope,

      and the fact that they began to hide the faces of ordinary soldiers means that everything is becoming very bad there (it would be better if they didn’t shoot at all)
  14. 0
    14 October 2014 21: 08
    Nothing so plow. smile
  15. 0
    14 October 2014 21: 17
    useful car)
  16. +2
    14 October 2014 22: 53
    The thing is of course good, but the fighter must first learn to dig a fully open foxhole in 30 minutes from a prone position, and then use these technical benefits.
    1. wanderer_032
      +2
      14 October 2014 23: 57
      Quote: Marssik
      The thing is of course good, but the fighter must first learn to dig a fully open foxhole in 30 minutes from a prone position, and then use these technical benefits.


      Of course it should. But when it is necessary to build defensive engineering structures in large quantities and volumes in a short time, here you can’t do without such equipment.
      And an infantryman without the ability to dig himself in and not an infantryman at all.
      But individual trenches is a temporary shelter, designed for a short stay.
      In addition, the soil (soil) is different and for 30 minutes. you can’t always dig MPLCoy for such a full-height time. Therefore, we must adapt to the terrain. If it is impossible to dig in, then it is necessary to overlay (with stones or something else).
      In general, you need to think about your head, and not stupidly driven in instructions to follow.
      1. +1
        15 October 2014 01: 10
        But individual trenches is a temporary shelter, designed for a short stay.
        Who knows where much-wise command will lead. At the exit 1.5-2m in depth you grab it, you think we’ll spend the night and go ahead, and then the 5-day ambush order at the point sits down and improvement begins wassat
        In addition, the soil (soil) is different and for 30 minutes. you can’t always dig MPLCoy for such a full-height time. Therefore, we must adapt to the terrain. If it is impossible to dig in, then it is necessary to overlay (with stones or something else).
        It was a matter of a rock monolith hit, thank God, not in combat, but in exercises. 30 cm of soil, and then at least explode, I had to stuff bags with scraped earth)
  17. INF
    0
    14 October 2014 23: 12
    Yes, friends, here for me the main thing is universality, install different lotions on the same device, removed it from the potato and bam! already digging trenches, and versatility - this is primarily cost savings.
  18. 0
    15 October 2014 06: 38
    Yes ... here "digging from here until evening" is fraught with consequences ... going beyond the horizon.
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  20. 0
    15 October 2014 13: 15
    Photos from "Stalin's Line" across Minsk
    BAT2 track laying machine
    1. 0
      16 October 2014 14: 11
      Quote: Sol_Jah
      Photos from "Stalin's Line" across Minsk
      BAT2 track laying machine

      And next - BAT - M shines through (to the right) ... wink
  21. 0
    18 October 2014 17: 12
    good car. probably such dill build a wall on the border with Russia. belay
  22. 0
    19 October 2014 19: 42
    I'm certainly an amateur! But it seems to me over 30
    minutes, it’s impossible to dig a full-length trench!
    1. 0
      19 October 2014 20: 08
      32min, score 'beats', for shooting from a prone position