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Poroshenko called the candidate for the post of Minister of Defense

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President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko introduced to the Verkhovna Rada the idea of ​​appointing Stepan Poltorak, commander of the National Guard, to the post of Minister of Defense, reports Lenta.ru report with reference to the message of the head of state posted on Twitter.



On the eve of Poroshenko signed a report on the resignation of the former Minister Valery Geletey. Advisor to President Lutsenko, commenting on this event, noted that Geletei had fulfilled the tasks assigned to him, and his assistant would have to carry out new ones. What tasks will be assigned to Poltorak, the adviser did not specify.

Recently, Geletei fell under a barrage of criticism in connection with the failure of the special operation in the east of Ukraine, and in particular, near Ilovaisk, where thousands of servicemen were killed.

However, speaking at a briefing today, the ex-minister said: “The main tasks set by the president have been fulfilled by me. Now the president of Ukraine has defined other tasks that are no less important for me, but not in the position of the Minister of Defense. ”. Geletey was modestly silent about the new post, saying only that the president himself would soon say about his appointment.

RIA News He notes that experts interviewed by him called Geletei’s expected resignation, but the appointment of a new Minister of Defense, in their opinion, will not fundamentally change the situation in the army, as there are currently no decent candidates for this position in Ukraine.

Valery Geletei became the head of the Ministry of Defense in early July of this year. The peak of the hostilities in Novorossia came at the time of his leadership. The Ukrainian army, hoping to free Donbas from the militia by September, was stopped and thrown back.

Earlier, it was suggested that Geletei could go to the State Guard Department, where he had already served during the presidency of Viktor Yushchenko.

National Guard commander Stepan Poltorak has been in office since April 2014. Prior to that, he commanded the internal troops, on the basis of which in March the National Guard was formed.
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  1. Sterlya
    Sterlya 13 October 2014 22: 43
    +9
    Put another clown. What change then?
    1. Demob 2012
      Demob 2012 13 October 2014 22: 46
      +5
      The idea is to change the awl of soap, so nothing can change
      1. vadson
        vadson 13 October 2014 23: 59
        +1
        Much can change, then the question is why this is done?
        elections?
        re-need, a new offensive, with cutting off the old history and the minister
        shifting blame on:
        Minister, Benny, SBU / CIA / UFO - anyone but not me, well, let her (panic) like he had nothing to do with it.
        but most likely taken together.
        1. after
          after 14 October 2014 01: 56
          -14
          No matter how strange and wild it may look, a fact is a fact. It turns out that without our knowledge on the vastness of the World Wide Web there is a site http://yourinforr.blogspot.ru and where our personal information is laid out on shelves for each of us, ordinary citizens of Russia. It’s hard to believe, but it’s so, no one is protected.
      2. SOKOL777
        SOKOL777 14 October 2014 00: 00
        +4
        Quote: Dembel 2012
        The idea is to change the awl of soap


        It wasn’t a mess ...
        This means that the National Guard will be higher in position than the Armed Forces.
        The fascization of Ukraine continues. negative
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 14 October 2014 10: 33
          0
          Now the APU will be a human shield for the national bastards
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    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 13 October 2014 22: 46
      +3
      Now let's see how long this minister holds out.
      1. Agarkov Vitaliy
        Agarkov Vitaliy 13 October 2014 22: 58
        +3
        How many years did Geletey last? Could you tell? In my opinion, he stayed at this post longer than his predecessors.
        1. Imperial
          Imperial 13 October 2014 23: 18
          +2
          How many years did Geletey last? Could you tell?
          101 day.
          1. Oldwiser
            Oldwiser 14 October 2014 10: 35
            0
            April 45 - SS Himmler's re-führer is appointed head of defense of the Eastern Front.
        2. Ronino
          Ronino 14 October 2014 01: 55
          0
          He lasted the most because he promised a victory parade in Sevastopol.
          I wonder what the next should promise?
          1. wasjasibirjac
            wasjasibirjac 14 October 2014 05: 52
            0
            parade in Moscow?
            1. sv68
              sv68 14 October 2014 06: 46
              0
              wasiasibijac-one and a half cancer is famous for personally holding a gay army gladness in Kiev laughing
            2. sv68
              sv68 14 October 2014 06: 47
              0
              wasiasibijac-one and a half cancer is famous for personally holding a gay army gladness in Kiev laughing
      2. Sterlya
        Sterlya 13 October 2014 23: 05
        +1
        Quote: Giant thought
        Now let's see how long this minister holds out.

        Well yes. The whole point is more likely in this. laughing
    4. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 13 October 2014 22: 47
      +8
      [quote = Sterlya] And what will change then?

      On the nose of the election -in the head of the army put the National Guard in its purest form to suppress dissenting but already their own So do not consider them as complete idiots
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 13 October 2014 22: 55
        +1
        Quote: Ruslan67
        On the nose of the election -in the head of the army put the National Guard in its purest form to suppress dissenting but already their own So do not consider them as complete idiots


        I suppose it is not being put by Peter Alekseevich? American friends are sure they gave good advice. "Puppets are pulling the strings ..." Hello Ruslan! hi
        1. Ruslan67
          Ruslan67 13 October 2014 22: 59
          +3
          Hi drinks
          Quote: studentmati
          American friends sure gave good advice.

          I think it could not have done without them, although the move suggested itself
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 13 October 2014 23: 06
            +2
            Quote: Ruslan67
            I think it could not have done without them, although the move suggested itself


            The whole game goes according to their scenario from the very beginning. I am sure! Look at Poroshenko! He himself does not know what he is doing! am They are clearly led by demons!
            1. Igor F.
              Igor F. 14 October 2014 05: 31
              0
              Oh, and his appearance is clearly demonic!belay And in winter it’ll turn into a devil in the sand!
    5. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 13 October 2014 22: 55
      +4
      Another connoisseur of nuclear capsules?
    6. DRA-88
      DRA-88 13 October 2014 23: 04
      +2
      Quote: Sterlya
      Put another clown. What change then?

      this is not a clown - it's a terry Svidomo !!!
    7. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 13 October 2014 23: 08
      +3
      Quote: Sterlya
      Put another clown. What change then?

      Has already changed! Russia withdrew its troops from the territories indicated by "Ukraine" to Chukotka; NATO disbanded itself, and Obama pesters Poltorak with a request to take him as a batman; China insists on its inclusion in this very "Ukraine"! And believers of all confessions pray to the face of the Archangel Stepan.
    8. major071
      major071 13 October 2014 23: 08
      +7
      Sterlya
      Put another clown. What change then?

      You are not much wrong. These are not clown defense ministers, this is the president of Poros, the clown. And defense ministers are just pawns. He’s a puppet in general, who is pulled by strings by all and sundry. They will say tomorrow to appoint a tribal leader from Africa as Minister of Defense - he will appoint, because he does not have power as such. Power is in the hands of Natsiks, radicals and zapadentsev, which, in principle, is one and the same. Yes, and they are all puppets too, whose control threads stretch in the United States. IMHO. hi
    9. Gelos
      Gelos 13 October 2014 23: 59
      +1
      "Will put the next clown" ... Don't ... he'll put up a half CANCER ...
    10. zheka
      zheka 14 October 2014 08: 49
      0
      I'm not even surprised!
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  2. Dezinto
    Dezinto 13 October 2014 22: 44
    +1
    New Commander "Cap" ?!

    Come here, serve the meat, shoot, we went into the trap, thank you go to x ... sad
  3. Revolver
    Revolver 13 October 2014 22: 45
    +8
    "And you, friendsNo.no matter how you sit down, everything in musicians ministers no good"© I. A. Krylov
    1. Viktor Kudinov
      Viktor Kudinov 14 October 2014 01: 41
      0
      am From the change of the meat grinder less blood on the hands of the corrupt regime will not. And ultimately, all the ghouls will meet in hell. am
    2. Igor F.
      Igor F. 14 October 2014 05: 35
      0
      repeat That is, the newly appointed minister will not be busy with his own business? Yes, grandfather I.A. Krylov is right! For many years to come, he predicted such an event!
  4. RESEARCHER
    RESEARCHER 13 October 2014 22: 45
    +3
    What can be expected from the head of the punitive?
    the law "On the National Guard of Ukraine", introduced by the Chairman of the Verkhovna Rada Oleksandr Turchynov (No. 4393).

    "According to the adopted law, in the country on the basis of the Internal Troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, the National Guard of Ukraine is being formed - a military formation with law enforcement functions, designed to perform tasks to protect and protect the life, rights, freedoms and legitimate interests of citizens, society and the state from criminal and other illegal encroachments, protection of public order and ensuring public safety, as well as in cooperation with law enforcement agencies in ensuring state security and defense of the state border, suppressing terrorist activities, as well as the activities of illegal paramilitary or armed formations (groups), terrorist organizations, organized groups and criminal organizations ...

    By organizational and legal status, the National Guard of Ukraine will act independently.

    Also, the National Guard of Ukraine will perform service and combat tasks in the interests of citizens, society and the state in peacetime, in emergency situations, and will also take part in ensuring the defense of Ukraine, protecting its sovereignty and territorial integrity, security of the border space, state independence and national interests in the event of armed aggression, armed conflict or threats. "
  5. igor1981
    igor1981 13 October 2014 22: 46
    +2
    “You guys don’t sit down, but you’re not good for artists” (Krylov).
  6. aleks_29296
    aleks_29296 13 October 2014 22: 50
    +2
    Changed the awl to soap, but to sense. Over in Kiev today the servicemen are on strike, they don’t want to fight very much.
  7. assam4
    assam4 13 October 2014 22: 53
    +1
    Clowns come and go ... But they leave alive, while taking thousands of human lives with them. ...
  8. Dezinto
    Dezinto 13 October 2014 22: 53
    +3
    Ukraine ... winter ... deputy deputies ... generals ... generals ... maidan maidanov ...
  9. Agarkov Vitaliy
    Agarkov Vitaliy 13 October 2014 22: 56
    +1
    The next Geletey is planned?
  10. pvv113
    pvv113 13 October 2014 22: 59
    +4
    However, speaking at a briefing today, the ex-minister said: “The main tasks that the president set were fulfilled by me ...”

    He courageously repelled all tactical nuclear strikes fool
    1. Igor F.
      Igor F. 14 October 2014 05: 39
      0
      belay ..... which "applied" the Russian "aggressor"!
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 October 2014 22: 59
    +1
    Full. Perhaps the standards for physical training will cancel? What else can he do? When the hryvnia is 18? Is it conceivable to raise the defense industry if you do not buy components? And there is no money for import substitution. And time. Recently, the modernized machine gun Dyagterevsky saw the 44th year, they give out for the last squeak of the dill defense. Power!
  12. Kilo-11
    Kilo-11 13 October 2014 23: 00
    +4
    The Ukrainian fascist army was lucky for ministers, there was one cop, now another. It's time to hand out police whistles to Ukrainian warriors! Seriously, Mr. Poltorak, an ardent Ukrainian Nazi, when he was the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs Academy in Kharkov, planted Nazism entrusted to him, successfully continued as the commander of the National Guard / analogue of the Ukrainian SS troops /. Naturally, corruption flourished in the academy, like any self-respecting cop covers the business and has its own business. So the fascist Ukrainian armed forces are lucky, without quotation marks. Actually, the fascist Ukrainian armed forces are now such a minister is needed — a Nazi, friendly with Avakov, is close to the president, and the fact that he is not particularly versed in military affairs is just fine for New Russia and for us. The main thing is to use the situation correctly.
  13. Magic archer
    Magic archer 13 October 2014 23: 03
    +3
    Another cop. A dumb, vicious tyrant. Apparently the war in the east will flare up with a new force ((((
  14. b.t.a.
    b.t.a. 13 October 2014 23: 08
    +2
    National bastards are something like internal troops. So Poroshenko feels that there will be anti-government protests. Afraid of bastard. Will I sign this oath with a pen without a cap, or what?
    1. Styx
      Styx 13 October 2014 23: 12
      +1
      put a cross on the handle lol and Schaub Nichto did not guess laughing
  15. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 13 October 2014 23: 09
    +4
    One policeman has already commanded, we will wait for this one to command. What other boiler will organize.
  16. pensioner
    pensioner 13 October 2014 23: 10
    +4
    Yeshsho one candidate to the wall ... Well, Nitsche ... Enough of a bullet. Though... what With such a speed with which their ministers of defense are no longer changing fact yes ...
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 13 October 2014 23: 13
      +2
      Quote: retired
      Yeshsho one candidate to the wall ..


      Just a consumable, Yura! The candidate is already too !!! Politics has long ended, there is a civil war ...
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 13 October 2014 23: 19
        +1
        Sasha! what We kind of thump on another branch ... wink
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 13 October 2014 23: 23
          0
          Quote: retired
          Sasha! what We kind of thump on another branch ... wink


          Yur, give me the link, lost?
  17. Evgeniy31
    Evgeniy31 13 October 2014 23: 13
    +1
    One minister earned money, now a second, and then there is a third))
  18. HUMAN
    HUMAN 13 October 2014 23: 21
    +1
    I suggest that the Minister of Housing and Utilities let them clean the garbage
  19. Evilcat
    Evilcat 13 October 2014 23: 23
    +1
    Quote: Magic Archer
    Another cop. A dumb, vicious tyrant. Apparently the war in the east will flare up with a new force ((((

    Even worse.
    Head of the BB Academy - Head of the National Guard - Minister of Defense
    They’ll cook some malshyk for whipping already assigned.
  20. sever.56
    sever.56 13 October 2014 23: 25
    +1
    And you, friends, no matter how you sit down, you are in no way fit for ministers! I do not think that replacing the "nuclear" Geletey with one and a half Ka will change the situation in the Ukrainian army. As they hammered them, so they will.
  21. nachtRitter
    nachtRitter 13 October 2014 23: 26
    +2
    Well, pour it in, but there wasn’t one and a half! Mess!
    1. ZSU 23-4
      ZSU 23-4 14 October 2014 02: 00
      +1
      Chet is muddy.
  22. Vadim237
    Vadim237 13 October 2014 23: 31
    +2
    Poland has already gathered several countries to arm these bastards. Poland tanks Czech Republic guns Germany grenade launchers U.S. equipment small arms thermal imagers of the radio station, and now they are also planning to supply armored vehicles in the UAE, a few more months of this truce and the militias will have huge problems.
  23. Bullman
    Bullman 13 October 2014 23: 32
    +1
    In principle, this rotation of personnel is quite understandable. Indeed, in this situation, the National Guard, as an armed formation, is more efficiently and better equipped, and the organization is stricter. Another thing is that one cannot go far with nationalist slogans and propaganda alone. Moreover, defending one's land and one's home is much more motivation than "Nazi cohesion."
  24. vadik191007
    vadik191007 13 October 2014 23: 34
    +1
    Dibiloids and at least appoint Darth Vader, winter is not far off scribe
  25. IOwTZ
    IOwTZ 13 October 2014 23: 42
    0
    Yablische fatty, Monsieur Boar. In general, they hastened, it was possible to look for Polnorak.
  26. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 13 October 2014 23: 42
    +2
    The more pigs the Ministry of Defense of the former policemen will appoint, the more "talented" will be the military operations of the Ukrainians. Here, darling, Geleta conducted military operations like police raids, in general he was able to do it. Result - Ilovaisk still has a point across the Ukrov. - Generalissimo, but loyal. Although loyalty and kakl things are not compatible. am
  27. Gray 43
    Gray 43 13 October 2014 23: 48
    +1
    Now there is Parashka with a Half
  28. Andriuha077
    Andriuha077 14 October 2014 00: 02
    +2
    el-murid.livejournal.com/2033452.html
    Jump up
    The commanders of Motorola and Givi, apparently, are beginning to see clearly that in airport they were thrown just to die. Not only the Slavs, but also Oplot and Vostok, suddenly discovered that they were ordered to substantially decrease in numbers.

    youtube.com/watch?v=BLTaYD--amw
    ▶ New Russia First operational Donetsk 13.10.2014 Strange fog and strange sounds - YouTube
    Today's evening 13.10.2014. Strange fog and strange sounds over the area the airport. That it is still unknown but very similar to chemical weapons.
    alternate-politics.info/content/po_donetsku_primenili_khimicheskie_boepripasy_i_
    fantastika_ot_ukrosmi
    People close all the windows and rise up into the houses.
    1. soviet skytourist
      soviet skytourist 14 October 2014 00: 23
      +6
      another attempt to rob the people and remain at the trough but the patriots interfere, they will substitute the unruly for strikes after being rescued. as always, the internal enemy in the person of corrupt managers is more terrible than any occupant and fascist
      1. DRA-88
        DRA-88 14 October 2014 00: 27
        +3
        Quote: sovetskyturist
        an alternate attempt to rob the people and remain at the trough but the patriots interfere, they will substitute the unruly for strikes after being rescued. as always, the internal enemy in the person of venal managers is more terrible than any occupant and fascist


        New Russia is now the forefront of the struggle of the bourgeoisie with Socialism! struggle of Darkness and Light !!!
        1. soviet skytourist
          soviet skytourist 14 October 2014 00: 50
          +4
          the struggle of Darkness and Light-v kazdom iz nas
  29. Non-war
    Non-war 14 October 2014 00: 07
    +1
    Quote: Demnel 2012
    The idea is to change the awl of soap, so nothing can change

    Why not change? Poltorak is more adequate than Geletey, at least he won’t talk about nuclear strikes.
    1. DRA-88
      DRA-88 14 October 2014 00: 29
      +3
      Quote: Non-war
      Poltorak is more adequate than Geletey, at least he won’t talk about nuclear strikes.

      He will speak less, abuse more!
      ETOGE Terry Svidomo !!! am
    2. soviet skytourist
      soviet skytourist 14 October 2014 00: 39
      +2
      that’s the problem, the sheep and the clown Geletei are less evil than the pros, let them talk about nuclear weapons
      1. DRA-88
        DRA-88 14 October 2014 00: 42
        +2
        Quote: sovetskyturist
        that’s the problem, the sheep and the clown Geletei are less evil than the pros, let them talk about nuclear weapons

        I agree with you!
        and a poltarashka will come out of her skin, but she’ll be tough to clean, she’s still id!
        1. soviet skytourist
          soviet skytourist 14 October 2014 00: 56
          +2
          all the resources and finances of the nouveau riche, it’s hard to rally the people, and a bunch of villains are always motivated all the more so by him either on the bench or on the throne of Kiev
          1. DRA-88
            DRA-88 14 October 2014 01: 56
            +2
            Quote: sovetskyturist
            either on the bunks or on the throne of Kiev partners

            And in Russia it is more pronounced!
  30. soviet skytourist
    soviet skytourist 14 October 2014 00: 27
    +1
    About the war. .......... the generals always prepare for the last war ........ http: //kpe.ru/sobytiya-i-mneniya/ocenka-tendencii-s-pozicii-kob/501
    4-about-war
  31. soviet skytourist
    soviet skytourist 14 October 2014 00: 33
    +2
    Poltoratsky man Tymoshenko, and that in turn is a project of the Dnepropetrovsk clan as well as Kolomoisky, I think they pressed Powder but the people will not be easier and will fight further
  32. DRA-88
    DRA-88 14 October 2014 00: 38
    +2
    Quote: sovetskyturist
    people will not become easier and will continue to fight

    The people for them! am
    1. soviet skytourist
      soviet skytourist 14 October 2014 01: 01
      +1
      old scripts in a new way
      1. Leonidych
        Leonidych 14 October 2014 03: 36
        +1
        Russia has only two allies: the army and navy, this has long been known
    2. soviet skytourist
      soviet skytourist 14 October 2014 01: 08
      +1
      there is a reason for everything, Poltorak will be deprived of a small performer of someone else's will
  33. Gelos
    Gelos 14 October 2014 01: 14
    +1
    Unfortunately, this is not Ukraine and not Russia ... But the guy is Russian (Bavaria, Bamberg, my grandson is Maxim). Why is he there, gentlemen, Kremlin Kuevlyans ???
    1. Giacint a
      Giacint a 14 October 2014 01: 22
      0
      Freeze-back. And justification can be found for everything.
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    3. siberalt
      siberalt 14 October 2014 01: 54
      0
      My grandchildren are in Russia, because here is their homeland. And what is your doing there, yourself and explain. If this is the topic, of course, not flood.
      1. Gelos
        Gelos 14 October 2014 02: 27
        0
        No ... Question. a question from a series of rhetorical, but ... I myself suffer very much that my children, and now my grandchildren, look at their Motherland with bitterness. I can say this in Yesenin ("no need for paradise, give me my homeland"). And they already - everything, they have become different. Although they listen to Talkov, they love Shukshin ... But something broke them in this country. The daughter was born in Amvrosievka (already familiar to many), the son - in Kharkov. But neither Ukraine nor Russia especially attracts them. The son - it happened - a wife from the Volga Germans. He left for Germany with her when there was an exodus of these Germans in the late 90s. Although I finished a good "bursa" (St. Petersburg Mozhaika), and already got a captain. But no - pulled with his wife on the land of Barbarossa. He comes here on vacation, sad and surprised. And leaves ...
        Daughter. She also gave birth to all of us to the delight of the granddaughter Arishka. Yes, just do not want to live where all childhood and youth have passed (Volgograd. Brrrrr ... City-decoration for military filming), they went to Moscau, like many young people of Raziana.
        Here is such a "flood". And all because the "saint's army" got drunk and fucked up Russian lands and traditions. The youth could not stand it and did not see the prospects. And I still missed something. And now we run to them (fortunately, the time has appeared) - either to Bamberg, then to Shcherbinka (where I still torture Claudia) ...
        Understand me if this is possible ....
        1. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 14 October 2014 04: 04
          0
          Something I do not understand you? Are you making excuses for the upcoming departure? Do what you want, complete freedom of self-determination: if you want to be a German, be him! But only once, I decided that was it, I chose my homeland and that’s it, don’t hang around here like a pendulum, this is opportunism. Decide in general, just make no mistake ...
    4. Leonidych
      Leonidych 14 October 2014 03: 26
      0
      Are you trying to brag about something? nothing to brag about
      1. Hleb
        Hleb 14 October 2014 03: 54
        0
        grandson shows why not
  34. Everest2014
    Everest2014 14 October 2014 01: 34
    0
    Quote: Gelos
    Why is he there, gentlemen, Kremlin Kuevlyans ???

    I would like to be justified? What for? Go to your grandson.
  35. after
    after 14 October 2014 01: 56
    -3
    No matter how strange and wild it may look, a fact is a fact. It turns out that without our knowledge on the vastness of the World Wide Web there is a site http://yourinforr.blogspot.ru and where our personal information is laid out on shelves for each of us, ordinary citizens of Russia. It’s hard to believe, but it’s so, no one is protected.
  36. Ronino
    Ronino 14 October 2014 01: 58
    0
    The next will be a traffic cop, or firefighters, or a tax officer ...
    This will end the options!
  37. aszzz888
    aszzz888 14 October 2014 02: 33
    0
    Another bastard added. And everyone advocates the demise of Russia. So this is the technique that the mericatos handed over, and they will come in handy for digging their own common grave!
  38. The Art of War
    The Art of War 14 October 2014 03: 10
    0
    War of politicians with the military
  39. Leonidych
    Leonidych 14 October 2014 03: 17
    0
    I am surprised that they didn’t put the hammerhead Yarosh
  40. Wolka
    Wolka 14 October 2014 05: 29
    0
    Dill still does not get tired of showing its state insolvency, it's like in Krylov's famous fable "The Quartet": "But you friends, how do you not sit down, everyone is not suitable for musicians .."
  41. Barakuda
    Barakuda 14 October 2014 05: 31
    0
    Yes, and another three chapters of the regional SBU replaced ... Macaque already does not know where to scratch .. bully
  42. SAM 5
    SAM 5 14 October 2014 06: 04
    0
    What the next line would not be appointed, tangible changes in the foreseeable future is not expected (IMHO).
  43. Dedjara
    Dedjara 14 October 2014 06: 07
    +1
    Well, how can you not recall the classics ....
  44. Barakuda
    Barakuda 14 October 2014 06: 23
    0
    Visited "Censor" - a cesspool for uneducated ukrov. They shit everyone, both former and future in advance, not realizing that they themselves are in shit.
  45. demotivator
    demotivator 14 October 2014 06: 24
    0
    Quote: Sterlya
    Put another clown. What change then?

    Worse - this is no longer a clown. He graduated from the Ordzhonikidze Higher Military Command School. S. M. Kirov, Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR in 1987, Military Academy of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in 1997. That is, unlike the mentality of Geletey, Poltorak has a certain military training.
    And he also has some experience in managing divisions and units.
    In military service since August 1983. He served as platoon, company commander, battalion chief of staff, battalion commander, regiment, brigade, head of the combat and special training department of the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine. Here is such an epidemic, it turns out.
  46. SAM 5
    SAM 5 14 October 2014 06: 32
    0
    Even if this poltorashka had at least 7 spans in his forehead, you cannot train such "guardsmen" even in ten years.
  47. sv68
    sv68 14 October 2014 06: 58
    0
    I don’t ask, but I demand, administrators, return my Russian flag to me! Enough to scoff! I am RUSSIAN AND LIVE IN RUSSIA! Please return the flag ....
    1. SAM 5
      SAM 5 14 October 2014 08: 59
      0
      Why did Icelanders sign up? smile