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On the Estonian automotive portal sell tank T-34

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On the Estonian portal Auto24, with the help of which cars and spare parts for them are sold, an announcement appeared in which it is proposed to purchase the T-34 tank. The announcement says that the tank is currently on the territory of the Russian Federation, but if the buyer is willing to pay 49 thousand euros, the tank may be in Estonia.

The site reported that the tank is in excellent condition, while it is fully combat-ready. The seller, who called himself Roman, states that such a proposal should interest private collectors of military equipment. At the same time, Roman points out that the “discounted price” for the T-34 tank is 47 thousand euros.

On the page that offers to purchase the T-34 tank, the implementer uploads a series of photographs of this military equipment. The photographs clearly show the image of an eagle on the tower tank, which may indicate the initial belonging of the machine to the Polish armored forces of the socialist era. In the background, the photo shows not only the mountainous terrain, but also the fact that the T-34 may not be the last offer of its kind.

On the Estonian automotive portal sell tank T-34



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  1. Sterlya
    Sterlya 13 October 2014 20: 29
    +14
    The photo is not Russia. They didn’t even learn to lie
    1. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic 13 October 2014 20: 36
      -12
      Did you define it in Google Maps?
      1. Kars
        Kars 13 October 2014 20: 43
        +4
        Someone bought the same problems for me in Poland, brought them to Russia and now wants to sell more. At the same time, the pictures must be demanded (well, if you are planning to buy) with today's newspaper in the frame.
        1. TRex
          TRex 13 October 2014 20: 51
          +72
          What is Poland, young people? T-34/85, tail number 102, call sign "Rudy" ("Red", it means).
          Cinema " Four troopers and a dog" none of those present remember?
          Ah, youth, youth ... And how it can be sold is a question for the prosecutor's office and the police.
          1. Crimea-nyash
            Crimea-nyash 13 October 2014 21: 03
            +6
            but for sure.
            1. yushch
              yushch 13 October 2014 23: 30
              +3
              So in the first photo and the inscription is visible in Polish-Rudy, look carefully.
              1. Moore
                Moore 14 October 2014 05: 05
                +2
                The inscription yes, is visible. The font size of the number and the location of the inscription does not match.
                Perhaps someone was copleyling in full growth, perhaps it was caused by a not quite competent owner for advertising purposes.
          2. Saburo
            Saburo 13 October 2014 22: 07
            +1
            "Four troopers and a dog"


            Now in Poland this film is considered ideological incorrect. That's why they are selling. Yes, and the T-34 on the go in the world is enough, maybe some collector will buy it.
            1. vanya
              vanya 13 October 2014 23: 23
              0
              stop ringing, quite often it is shown on Polish channels
          3. wow
            wow 13 October 2014 22: 54
            +6
            The first time I watched "Four Tankmen and a Dog" in 66 or 67, I was still in a kindergarten in Moscow. Exactly. b / n 102, nickname "Rudy", so nicknamed the girl Yanyk Kos, the gunner-radio operator.
          4. lelikas
            lelikas 13 October 2014 22: 56
            +4
            Quote: TRex
            " Four troopers and a dog"

            There were several of them on the set, but the tank was definitely not ours - we didn’t set up a tail cable winder on the port side.
            And what is the problem at all - we also have tanks sold without problems.
          5. Viktor Kudinov
            Viktor Kudinov 14 October 2014 02: 58
            +7
            wink "Four Tankmen and a Dog" is a film of my childhood. About two months ago I knocked out my boys - they found a film on the Internet and watched all the episodes with the family. We watched it with pleasure, but with a pretense that the film was black and white. I think that such films should be used to educate the friendship of peoples and the attitude towards fascism. Good luck! smile
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          7. mamont5
            mamont5 14 October 2014 05: 51
            +1
            Quote: TRex
            What is Poland, young people? T-34/85, tail number 102, call sign "Rudy" ("Red", it means).
            Cinema " Four troopers and a dog" none of those present remember?
            Ah, youth, youth ... And how it can be sold is a question for the prosecutor's office and the police.


            So a tank from a movie studio, is it? With a story.
        2. svp67
          svp67 13 October 2014 20: 56
          +2
          Quote: Kars
          Someone bought the same problems for me in Poland, brought them to Russia
          hi With all due respect, but we still have this "GOOD with fists", in the sense of T34, and there is enough opportunity to buy, but there is no need to spend on customs ... And the point is to import into Russia, pay all taxes, then export again - the price will be higher than that of competitors. Most likely, someone from Kaliningraders has a "khatynka" in Estonia, and there "everything is good ..."
          1. Kars
            Kars 13 October 2014 22: 27
            +2
            Quote: svp67
            With all due respect, but we still have this "GOOD with fists", in the sense of T34, and there is an opportunity to buy

            Well, maybe it’s enough, but what about the condition? I don’t know how in the Russian Federation, but it’s easier for us to get from Poland with their documents than for our goons to go through the entire licensing system, and as a result, you can still stay without a trunk.
            1. zGomeRz
              zGomeRz 14 October 2014 07: 36
              0
              Near Novosibirsk there is the village of Koziulki, and there, on the storage base, several thousand T-34-85, IS-2, IS-3, etc. are in good condition with an annual mileage. He himself served in the Altai at the same base, and my classmates from the university there.
          2. jktu66
            jktu66 13 October 2014 23: 16
            0
            Most likely, someone from Kaliningraders has a "khatynka" in Estonia, and there "everything is good ..."
            It is more convenient for a Kaliningrader to buy a hut in Labyusandia, if the Curonian Spit or its resort towns are not satisfied. Look for St. Petersburg roots in Estonia smile
        3. Revolver
          Revolver 13 October 2014 20: 56
          +2
          Quote: Kars
          At the same time, you need to demand pictures (well, if you are planning to buy) with today's newspaper in the frame.

          Photos will not help. A photoshop is capable of such miracles that at first glance you can’t tell the truth from a true photo, but most likely the second and third too.
        4. GRAMARI111
          GRAMARI111 13 October 2014 21: 35
          +2
          why Estonia? probably because the seller lives nearby with the tank
        5. STALGRAD76
          STALGRAD76 13 October 2014 22: 03
          +6
          Not a bit not beautiful laughing Native run bully
      2. Koloradovatnik
        Koloradovatnik 13 October 2014 20: 45
        +9
        And in vain they are selling a tank! There were 2 tanks for three of the Balts - everything would be fair, each one a tank! And in combination with a pair of cardboard F-15s, and even as many as 600 NATO paratroopers - a truly formidable force! Will make the Russian bear shudder at the word "Baltic"!
        1. jjj
          jjj 13 October 2014 20: 54
          +2
          This is not by chance from the movie "Four Tankmen and a Dog"
          1. enot73
            enot73 13 October 2014 21: 09
            +7
            The photographs clearly show the image of an eagle on the tank tower, which may indicate the initial belonging of the machine to the Polish armored forces of the socialist era.
            Quote: jjj
            This is not by chance from the movie "Four Tankmen and a Dog"

            Indeed, the Ural "thirty-four", military issue, marked based on the movie "4 tankers and a dog", the inscription "red" on the other side of the car smile . Similar cars were in war and among the Poles.
            1. svp67
              svp67 13 October 2014 21: 41
              +6
              Quote: enot73
              military release
              No, it hurts neatly and cleanly cast and welded, the tank is clearly already post-war.
              1. enot73
                enot73 13 October 2014 22: 09
                +3
                Quote: svp67
                No, it hurts neatly and cleanly cast and welded, the tank is clearly already post-war.
                It meant that this T - 34 was without post-war upgrades and changes, for example, the road wheels of the tank in the photo were replaced. By the way, a military-grade tank does not have to howl "tattered".
      3. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 13 October 2014 20: 51
        +2
        Yes, everything is simple - there is another military equipment on the photo that cannot be located in the Russian military units (well, they are not in the arsenal of the RF Armed Forces) .Also - who will take the responsibility of dragging the left tank into the unit? who would not hide the location, consider advertising to the enterprise
      4. Homo
        Homo 13 October 2014 21: 07
        +17
        Quote: Old Cynic
        Did you define it in Google Maps?

        The power line design is not Russian.
      5. Dies Irae
        Dies Irae 13 October 2014 21: 25
        +14
        - Power lines are built on a vertical scheme, while Russian (Soviet) power lines are built on a horizontal one - it is technically more competent and safe in an accident.
        1. tasey
          tasey 13 October 2014 22: 07
          +7
          If the wires SIP-2, SIP-3 (self-supporting insulated), then it does not matter how they are located. And the fact that the construction of the supports is not ours is for sure. For your information, very often double-circuit transmission lines - 110 kV are built exactly "in a vertical" scheme. Only the supports are concrete, 26 meters high. He worked as a foreman for 12 years on overhead lines 10 -35 - 110 - 220 kV.
      6. Old Cynic
        Old Cynic 13 October 2014 21: 38
        -23
        I repeat once again. Fagots who put a minus - answer for your words! Explain yourself if you consider yourself to be men. Justify, rubber products number two, your worldview, your position! Or secretly hide - your (lowercase!) Credo?
        1. ksv1973
          ksv1973 13 October 2014 21: 54
          +13
          Quote: Old Cynic
          I repeat once again. Fagots who put a minus - answer for your words! Explain yourself if you consider yourself to be men. Justify, rubber products number two, your worldview, your position! Or secretly hide - your (lowercase!) Credo?

          Oops !!! Lessons on the site !!! With such a pace and such statements, Voennoye Obozreniye will soon turn into Parashnoye Obosrenie.
          PS I responded to the unacceptable expressions of the OLD CINICIAN. The only thing that can excuse him is that he drank hard before writing the above verbal garbage.
          1. Mol
            Mol 14 October 2014 12: 39
            0
            ksv1973

            "... the ONLY thing that can excuse him is that he drank hard before writing the above-quoted verbal junk."
            There is a good expression - you can't drink - DO NOT DRINK! So - "I was not sober" - does not pull for an excuse! smile hi
        2. almost demobil
          almost demobil 14 October 2014 04: 57
          +4
          Admins, please remove this Old ... from the field, or a drunk, or himself like that. stop
      7. rpek32
        rpek32 14 October 2014 03: 27
        +1
        Quote: Old Cynic
        Did you define it in Google Maps?

        they do not use such a construction in rf, besides it is 34-85
    2. DMB3000
      DMB3000 13 October 2014 20: 59
      +3
      Some non-Nashi power lines, I have never seen such
      1. DMB3000
        DMB3000 13 October 2014 22: 26
        +3
        Quote: DMB3000
        Some non-Nashi power lines, I have never seen such

        in time I noticed before. plus me))) wassat
        1. Sterlya
          Sterlya 13 October 2014 23: 11
          +2
          Quote: DMB3000
          Quote: DMB3000
          Some non-Nashi power lines, I have never seen such

          in time I noticed before. plus me))) wassat

          And here is WigWam. I noticed on the spot, and therefore wrote that the photo is not Russia. laughing
          And for all other details, a Russian will immediately determine that it is not Russia
    3. Finches
      Finches 13 October 2014 21: 26
      +3
      This is the natural development of criminal capitalism ... Purchase and sale, everything: History of the state, national treasure, national achievements and pride of the country, the sale of human feat .... this is the system that has been implanted in Russia since 1990! Capitalist "democracy" is called!
      I will put "democracy" in quotation marks, since there is nothing to do with a human, just worldview, this formation has nothing to do with it!
    4. zanoza
      zanoza 13 October 2014 21: 58
      +4
      Quote: Sterlya
      The photo is not Russia. They didn’t even learn to lie

      "Telegraph" poles give out (there are no such power lines in Russia), not our standard ...
      1. tasey
        tasey 13 October 2014 22: 11
        +1
        I confirm. See comment above
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 13 October 2014 22: 34
      -1
      They trade the Homeland both wholesale and retail, cynics are bad.
    6. Verden
      Verden 13 October 2014 22: 37
      +4
      Comrades, let's take off and buy. VO will have its own tank. soldier
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 13 October 2014 23: 00
        +3
        I'm ready. How much is left to the desired amount?
        And further. Is the T-28 sold there?
  2. BARKAS
    BARKAS 13 October 2014 20: 30
    +2
    It will be good if someone from the Russians buys!
  3. svp67
    svp67 13 October 2014 20: 31
    +17
    On the Estonian automotive portal sell tank T-34
    it is necessary to add to the ad: "for trips across Europe, to Berlin, every year on May 9 at every petrol station of the solarium free of charge .."
    1. Old Cynic
      Old Cynic 13 October 2014 20: 37
      +9
      Don't ... "For a land cruise in Europe" ...
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    3. 23 region
      23 region 13 October 2014 22: 31
      +14
      Quote: svp67
      On the Estonian automotive portal sell tank T-34
      it is necessary to add to the ad: "for trips across Europe, to Berlin, every year on May 9 at every petrol station of the solarium free of charge .."

      The Germans themselves didn’t mind that they would visit them.
  4. jekasimf
    jekasimf 13 October 2014 20: 32
    +5
    Well, it’s better than sending it for re-melting. Anyone who pays such an amount will not destroy it. Most likely some kind of museum.
    1. Internet fighter
      Internet fighter 13 October 2014 20: 55
      +9
      My neighbors from the wreckage of this T-34-57 gathered:
      1. predator.3
        predator.3 13 October 2014 22: 00
        +5
        An interesting instance, the 57-mm version of this turns out to be a version of the Grabinsky gun ZIS-2 ?! hi
        1. Internet fighter
          Internet fighter 14 October 2014 00: 36
          +3
          57-mm it turns out a variant of the Grabinsky gun ZIS-2 ?!

          I don’t know, I won’t lie ... I don’t understand the trunks.
          The tank itself was seen firsthand more than once ... and we have several groups of such enthusiasts. Some amphibians also restore retro cars, 2nd tanks are assembled from extracted components, and 3rd reconstituted BRDMs are reassembled. And all this within the framework of a single village near Moscow.
          I mean, the news is about nothing)
      2. Sergey Vl.
        Sergey Vl. 13 October 2014 22: 34
        +2
        In fact, we must say Nizhny Pyshmа (accent on "a"). This is too small a settlement for the BTT Museum. Maybe Nizhny Tagil is correct?
        1. vzvodnik
          vzvodnik 14 October 2014 07: 22
          +1
          No, UPPER Pyshma,
          Quote: Sergey Vl.
          (accent on "a").
          hi
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 13 October 2014 21: 00
      +6
      Kiev will lay out. It is cheaper than the American "Abrams" (which, by the way, do not hurt and give).
  5. DRA-88
    DRA-88 13 October 2014 20: 33
    +3
    The emblem is Polish!
    But the tank is in perfect condition!
    Russia’s Defense Ministry needs to redeem this historical example of Soviet tank building, wherever it is!
    1. samoletil18
      samoletil18 13 October 2014 20: 59
      +3
      Quote: DRA-88
      But the tank is in perfect condition!
      Russia’s Defense Ministry needs to redeem this historical example of Soviet tank building, wherever it is!

      Poles released them after the war. Consolation is weak, but maybe not ours, but Polish post-war? If a participant in the Great Patriotic War, even if the Polish army, then this is disgusting, like traders in the temple.
      1. BMVIK
        BMVIK 13 October 2014 21: 15
        +7
        Absolutely, this is a Polish post-war modification produced under license and there is nothing historical other than participation in the film. And it's not a fact that this is exactly that - the inscription and emblems with the number can be applied to raise the status of the car
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 13 October 2014 21: 32
          +7
          Quote: BMVIK
          Absolutely, this is a Polish post-war modification produced under license and there is nothing historical other than participation in the film. And it's not a fact that this is exactly that - the inscription and emblems with the number can be applied to raise the status of the car

          On this tank, number 572 is not visible, it is possibly specially photographed so
          1. BMVIK
            BMVIK 13 October 2014 22: 25
            +8
            The tank in the photo and the tank actor are different cars and fonts are different and the places of application are not the same and the dimensions of the emblems, you can review the film and find a lot of differences. Let the Poles sell their tank to anyone they want, this is not our car
  6. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 13 October 2014 20: 33
    +7
    My grandfather on 34 reached Berlin. He would not be delighted with such attention to his beloved tank.
  7. Leshka
    Leshka 13 October 2014 20: 35
    +5
    they were probably interested in the Estonian Ministry of Defense laughing
  8. Mayer1980
    Mayer1980 13 October 2014 20: 38
    +9
    in the photo from the place of the driver’s arm, a German half-track armored personnel carrier is visible. I think this is not Russia.
    1. Mol
      Mol 13 October 2014 20: 43
      +1
      Plus you for the "big eyes!" lol
    2. svp67
      svp67 13 October 2014 20: 47
      +6
      Quote: Mayer1980
      in the photo from the place of the driver’s arm, a German half-track armored personnel carrier is visible. I think this is not Russia.
      But in general terms the T72, with a tarp closed and a turret turned up ... I don’t think that in Russia there is now a T72 privately owned, but in the countries of the former socialist camp, quite.
    3. killganoff
      killganoff 13 October 2014 21: 06
      +2
      Judging by the power transmission poles that fell into the frame, this is definitely not Russia, most likely the state of the former socialist camp, possibly Poland.
  9. Cossack Lee Hoy
    Cossack Lee Hoy 13 October 2014 20: 40
    +1
    Let's send the Trojan horse and enslave sprats laughing
  10. Mol
    Mol 13 October 2014 20: 46
    +1
    The tank is handsome! Oh, I would ride with a breeze! Gallop across Europe, so to speak! laughing It remains only to find 47 thousand euros. what
  11. vsoltan
    vsoltan 13 October 2014 20: 46
    +2
    The tank is excellent, alas, it’s out of date ... let it dill and buy ... they all have one thing, few cars left .... go a bit - then to our museum wink
    1. Landwarrior
      Landwarrior 13 October 2014 20: 50
      +7
      You shouldn’t be so. Read about the T-34 in Serbia. hi
      1. vsoltan
        vsoltan 13 October 2014 23: 46
        +2
        I know that I fought successfully in Yugoslavia ... honor and praise to our deeds!
  12. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 13 October 2014 20: 48
    +1
    Angry Russia ... bastards! Well, well .. (fake ..) Sprats in your mouth Ecarnaya babai!
  13. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 13 October 2014 20: 49
    +2
    Oh, there would be money .... crying
  14. pilot8878
    pilot8878 13 October 2014 20: 50
    +5
    Well, stop arguing about the nat. eagle accessories. What the hell is Poland? On the left side there is an inscription RUDY. Nobody remembers anything? "Four troopers and a dog"? They sell props from some film studio.
    1. sub307
      sub307 14 October 2014 06: 43
      +1
      In fact - a tank and a tank, props in general. Most likely, some collector will buy from the country where the law allows you to do this. Okay. Why "raise the dust" around this particular tank. And the message that the tank is currently in Russia, in my opinion - "deaea". Is it meaningful for Russia to take it (for "patriotic reasons")? There is no lack of monuments in the "face of the tank".
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  15. raid14
    raid14 13 October 2014 20: 51
    +3
    A tank from Poland, took part in the filming of the film "Four Tankmen and a Dog" in 1966, stood on the Warsaw-Gdansk highway.
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 13 October 2014 21: 01
      +2
      The machine is historical, it will be a pity if they let it go into remelting.
  16. Drunya
    Drunya 13 October 2014 20: 51
    +4
    military what is it - ?????????
    phosphorus or gas ????? I'm in oh yeah
    1. killganoff
      killganoff 13 October 2014 21: 13
      +1
      Smoke is probably getting darker - it is getting colder, winter is coming.
      1. Drunya
        Drunya 13 October 2014 21: 22
        +2
        at 2.21 minutes you can see what smoke it is, there is shelling !!!!!!
        1. Massik
          Massik 13 October 2014 21: 45
          +3
          It’s definitely not phosphorus, the smoke is most likely, but maybe the overpass was broken somewhere at the chemical plant, and that’s some kind of rubbish in the wind. TDA-M or 2K can give an even worse curtain.
    2. cosmos132
      cosmos132 13 October 2014 21: 47
      +3
      This is shelling with gas shells of Donetsk airport from the side of Sands
      1. Massik
        Massik 13 October 2014 23: 11
        +1
        An interesting shelling, judging by the sound, everything flies at the same time, maybe all the same rockets?)
  17. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 13 October 2014 20: 51
    +2
    The Poles sell, they point a finger at Russia.
  18. pvv113
    pvv113 13 October 2014 20: 51
    +13
    In the movie "Four Tankmen and a Dog" there was also a tank with hull number 102
    1. Denis fj
      Denis fj 13 October 2014 21: 15
      +4
      we also have a t-34-85 tank with the side number at the museums breaking through the blockade LENINGRADA. FOTKAL PERSONALY. Here you can see the rest of the tanks
      http://fotki.yandex.ru/users/ob-denis2012/album/250804/?&p=1
    2. killganoff
      killganoff 13 October 2014 21: 17
      +1
      This is one of the most recognizable and popular tanks, the "Red" was sold even in prefabricated models, and often other 34s were decorated under the "Polish movie star". It doesn't have to be the original.
    3. viruvalge412ee
      viruvalge412ee 13 October 2014 21: 28
      +1
      it's time to move on to real action. For these European beauties, more than this is not necessary!
  19. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 13 October 2014 20: 56
    +8
    Quote: TRex
    What is Poland, young people? T-34/85, tail number 102, call sign "Rudy" ("Red", it means).
    Cinema " Four troopers and a dog" none of those present remember?
    Ah, youth, youth ... And how it can be sold is a question for the police prosecutor's office.


    Nikolay, oh bravo! A sober mind and a clear memory! Accept my respect.
  20. Yury rus
    Yury rus 13 October 2014 20: 57
    +2
    Those who watched the film "Four Tankmen and a Dog" will remember that the film was shot in Poland and the tank was from # 102. Maybe he is?
  21. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 13 October 2014 20: 59
    +2
    Quote: TRex
    What is Poland, young people? T-34/85, tail number 102, call sign "Rudy" ("Red", it means).
    Cinema " Four troopers and a dog" none of those present remember?
    Ah, youth, youth ... And how it can be sold is a question for the prosecutor's office and the police.



    So I thought about "Red" ... smile
  22. flSergius
    flSergius 13 October 2014 20: 59
    +1
    What is avto24?!? But the world of tanks forum post an ad - tear off with their hands /
  23. maksim
    maksim 13 October 2014 21: 06
    +6
    borrow somebody 47000 euros, I’ll give it back home wink
  24. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 13 October 2014 21: 07
    +2
    T-34-85 fought in Yugoslavia from both the Serbian and Croatian sides. They put the M-2 American machine gun as an anti-aircraft gun. And the SU-100 were there.
  25. rus-5819
    rus-5819 13 October 2014 21: 08
    +3
    Quote: TRex
    None of those present remember the movie "Four Tankmen and a Dog"?

    Most likely this is one of the tanks that were filmed in the episodes. On the gun, the brand looks like 309, and the emblem and tail number are clearly applied recently. So it is rather Poland, and they decided to "hook" Russia out of habit.
  26. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 13 October 2014 21: 14
    +1
    Yes, it looks like this is the tank of my childhood movie. I already found some kind of nostalgia, we all threw street affairs and ran to the screens of b / w televisions.
  27. sv68
    sv68 13 October 2014 21: 16
    +1
    everything that is being sold is sold — honor, conscience, history — is not at all surprised. It’s a pity only if you buy some hoopoe and emulate it with Nazi symbols and slogans angry angry
  28. Evilcat
    Evilcat 13 October 2014 21: 19
    +1
    Quote: TRex
    What is Poland, young people? T-34/85, tail number 102, call sign "Rudy" ("Red", it means).
    Cinema " Four troopers and a dog" none of those present remember?
    Ah, youth, youth ... And how it can be sold is a question for the prosecutor's office and the police.

    Come on you. The film is Polish. Czterej pancerni i pies, if you will. By the way, the Poles themselves called the film a little differently - Three Poles, Georgians and a dog.
    1. TRex
      TRex 14 October 2014 10: 08
      0
      Naturally - Polish. I wanted to say that it was possible to grind a car even in Poland, even in the Baltic states, even in Russia ... Not the fact that the picture was taken in Estonia.
      Well, for completeness of information on "Redhead" - there is such a book: "Studzianki", author - Janusz Pshimanovsky (if I'm not mistaken). The book was written on the basis of combat reports during active battles of the Polish tank brigade in 1944-45. It mentions the commanders of crews, subunits, etc., including indicating the side numbers of vehicles ... There are numbers 100, 101,103, etc. up to the 130s or 150s, but No. 102 does not appear anywhere. I could not trace where this car was during the war. Maybe they broke, burned, drowned at the very beginning? And then, in order not to offend any of the veterans, assigned this number to fictional characters?
      By the way, do you know how it sounds in Polish? WHEAT PANTS
  29. alex86
    alex86 13 October 2014 21: 20
    +4
    Kazan City Hall is looking for a T-34 for Victory Park. I wrote to them, but the answer within 30 days, they may not have time to buy. But it’s interesting: 49000 euros is 2 rubles, for our people it’s not solid, I think they will buy lemons for ten (no less).
    1. alex86
      alex86 13 October 2014 22: 06
      +2
      I’m curious, they put a minus - is that what I didn’t like? What the city hall is looking for - so a tank is needed in Victory Park - is here without question. Well, they can’t find it yet - well, it happens, it’s not so simple, I guess. What they will buy not for 2,5 million, but for 10 - well, so in our country this is a common practice and claims are not for me. Answer, mysterious stranger, what did you not like ?!
  30. Barakuda
    Barakuda 13 October 2014 21: 21
    +9
    Under this film, I learned to crawl in the Plastunsky style, grandfather of the PPSh from a tree realized, with a shutter and a rattle. They were waiting for each series .. And then Dad included me in the course of affairs. 6 graders in the trench, and the T-64 passes, then another grenade to the engine. It was terrible. After that, the fear disappeared.
  31. pest
    pest 13 October 2014 21: 26
    +2
    Duma, that in Estonia they will not buy, there will not be enough brains. Not for nothing is a joke:
    - Two hot fast guys knock on the brothel door. Bendersha opens, they still ask - what can we do with a vass for 20 euros?
    - only fuck in those bushes of each other. Closes the door.
    After half an hour, there was a knock on the door again. Bendersha opens and sees the same hot fast guys.
    - What do you want again?
    - Missions we want to know to whom to give money ...
  32. aliatum
    aliatum 13 October 2014 21: 27
    +3
    )))))))))))) Three Poles, Georgians and a dog - the story of my childhood film about our T-34. Must buy. Story. Yes, and 34 will return home from captivity. And how many more are there in Europe-Asia?
  33. viruvalge412ee
    viruvalge412ee 13 October 2014 21: 37
    +2
    Estas are young. They are, well, how are they! This is normal. They know. They have a saying: "Situ ruttu, caru tuleb!" It means: "Hurry up, the bear is coming!"
  34. Megatron
    Megatron 13 October 2014 21: 42
    +2
    There are whole sites where they sell rare military equipment.

    http://autobuy.ru/page/prodazha-teh
  35. cosmos132
    cosmos132 13 October 2014 21: 52
    +6
    For the kit I can offer armor-piercing with T34-85
  36. Bosk
    Bosk 13 October 2014 21: 52
    +2
    Well, they’re selling ... so what’s wrong here ?, in Latvia, a couple of years ago, I also saw through the advertisement how they sold the T-55 if I’m not mistaken for 50000 Latvian moose (somewhere 90000 tanks), by the way, also in combat-ready condition, but this combat capability meant the availability of those passports, by the way, according to those passports, this combat unit passed like a tractor ...
  37. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 13 October 2014 22: 15
    +5
    The inscription "RUDY" is clearly visible on the tank. This is another "copy" of the tank from the movie "Four Tankmen and a Dog". Only handprints and paws are missing. So this is not an indicator. And in St. Petersburg, T-34-85 are also quietly sold. And not only they
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 13 October 2014 22: 31
      +3
      Vania! fellow
      If still alive - let me know! I’m sitting alone sad, but I have a drink. I don’t drink one !!!! let `s together. Well, at least sympathize ...
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 13 October 2014 22: 36
        +2
        Quote: retired
        Vania! fellow
        If still alive - let me know! I’m sitting alone sad, but I have a drink. I don’t drink one !!!! let `s together. Well, at least sympathize ...


        Hi, Jura! wassat drinks
        And if you look under Russian law, then there are no restrictions on the movement of tanks on public roads? Is that a ban on exploitation with the removal of registration marks? stop Who will take them off, which are not? lol
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 13 October 2014 22: 41
          +2
          Sasha !!! Dear!! Well, finally, there were worthy people! well ... for you! Cranberry, 42 (??) degrees ...
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 13 October 2014 22: 43
            +2
            Quote: retired
            Sasha !!! Dear!! Well, finally, there were worthy people! well ... for you! Cranberry, 42 (??) degrees ...


            For us, Yura! good Ararat is 6 years old! drinks And the T-34 is invincible! drinks
        2. pensioner
          pensioner 13 October 2014 22: 52
          +3
          Quote: studentmati
          Who will take them off, which are not?

          I tell you. Kursk 2007 Aug. Sept. Heat in 40. Our UAZ periodically boils ... Nevertheless, we work ... We dig out the pipe. She is in a field planted with buckwheat felts, felts are still not a nerd. We look - where to get up. And we see that in km 5-6 from us (and there is a landscape-billiard table) there is a forest plantation! Well, at least night, morning, evening will be cool. Rushed there. UAZ was with us, which was delivered by a havchik and it was time for him to move to Shchegry for a havchik. H3 and went. Only he didn’t know that the driver of the Mercedes-trawl found a bunch of gos in the cuvette. numbers lying randomly ... Apparently in this forest planting the crime occurred with a car ... The minesweeper picked up and picked up the number from there and screwed it in front onto the UAZ. He did not know that the UAZ would go back. Well UAZ with this criminal number and left. Until the first post of the traffic police. He certainly came back. At night. And his carrier chased a minesweeper for a very long time. Only good physical fitness slept, ran away quickly ...
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 13 October 2014 22: 59
            +2
            Quote: retired
            . And his carrier chased a minesweeper for a very long time. He was saved only by a good physical form - he ran away quickly ...

            laughing laughing laughing

            For a good reaction and athletic form, Yura! drinks laughing
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 13 October 2014 23: 02
              +1
              Dasvay. Today, the treadmill was repaired by joint efforts ... So I’m sitting, I’m finishing my fee ... But tomorrow !!! How to stand on it and HOW I go !!! Hold on, belly! Come on! drinks
  38. pvv113
    pvv113 13 October 2014 22: 27
    +8
    an announcement appeared in which it was proposed to purchase a T-34 tank.

    I came across an advertisement for the sale of the Tu-95 strategic bomber
  39. Max40
    Max40 13 October 2014 22: 34
    +3
    One Belarusian site generally sells military equipment. And the state is selling
  40. shitovmg
    shitovmg 13 October 2014 22: 52
    +3
    In Pyshma, in a museum, in the Urals
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 13 October 2014 23: 00
      +2
      Quote: shitovmg
      In Pyshma, in a museum, in the Urals

      My dear Mikhail !! We regularly visit this museum. Our forum member Stroybat Reserve once even posted a photo report of our visit to this museum on the website. The museum is amazing! So what my wife is a humanist-historian-archivist and then: she gave it credit. Well ... For Kozitsyn. A rare oligarch. His workers and specialists do not complain about their fate. And for the museum and for the fact that they put equipment on the "move", so generally ... No words! MS-1 ON THE GO !!!!! Stunned !!
      1. samoletil18
        samoletil18 14 October 2014 00: 26
        +3
        Quote: retired
        ! MS-1 ON THE GO !!!!! Stunned !!

        When I was living there, the T-60 saw against the background of the HF ... That's mobilization equipment! They then stood on the first platform near the road and were not far from each other.
        Kozitsin, of course, well done. But the UMMC registered in Luxembourg.
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 14 October 2014 00: 41
          +2
          Quote: samoletil18
          Here is a mobilization technique!

          You are certainly right. T-70 is a vivid example of a mobilization version of armored vehicles. But. Who knew on the eve of 2 MV that the age of light tanks would be so short? And the T-70 is the most defective tank in this regard. Examples of competent and not only the use of T-70 tanks are mass. Unfortunately in the main - not literate ... rabid locust - like the Germans called him ...
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 14 October 2014 00: 47
            +2
            Quote: retired
            You are certainly right. T-70 is a vivid example of a mobilization version of armored vehicles. But. Who knew on the eve of 2 MV that the age of light tanks would be so short?


            But this is the question of the first blow? What was the USSR preparing for?
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 14 October 2014 00: 53
              +1
              Quote: studentmati
              But this is the question of the first blow? What was the USSR preparing for?

              To stand. And what was Poland preparing for? Or France? See the BV composition of these countries. Poland did not have the so-called heavy (well, those that later became medium ...) tanks. Germany? We carefully look at the composition of the Panzervaffen BV and see that their base even in 41 is T-2, T-3, which in 41 can’t be attributed to medium tanks. Then, after half a year or a year, the T-3 will acquire armor and acquire a long-barrel 50mm. a cannon with cumulative b / p ... In the meantime, it is heavier than the BT-7, only 3 tons ...
              1. studentmati
                studentmati 14 October 2014 00: 56
                +1
                Quote: retired
                To stand. And what was Poland preparing for? Or France?


                It turns out there was a backstage confrontation: "who did not have time to be late?"
                1. pensioner
                  pensioner 14 October 2014 01: 05
                  +2
                  Quote: studentmati
                  It turns out there was a backstage confrontation: "who did not have time to be late?"

                  No one canceled the backstage, but the Germans understood: WHAT and in WHAT quantity should there be tanks in the so-called. tank groups. A. Isaev calls it the "golden section". Plus the tactics of using tank formations, which in every possible way avoided oncoming tank battles, providing the heroics of the destruction of enemy armored vehicles of artillery, with its numerous 37-mm. cannons (98 units per division), not counting anti-tank divisions with 50-mm. cannons and 105 mm. howitzers guns. 150mm. howitzers. 210 and howitzer-guns, 88 mm. anti-aircraft guns (very numerous in any division) + 22, 37, 47 (... here I can lie ...) anti-aircraft guns that easily fought with our tanks ... Conclusion: in 1941. our such on the battlefield, other things being equal, had no chance against the Wehrmacht. Plus air superiority. But our tanks did not die ingloriously, as some would like to imagine. They stood as an armored shield of our infantry in the path of the German armies. and by their death they won the most important thing during that period - TIME !! Then the Wehrmacht began to miss him categorically ...
                  1. samoletil18
                    samoletil18 14 October 2014 14: 41
                    0
                    Quote: retired
                    But our tanks did not die ingloriously, as some would like to imagine.

                    There was both. The Germans, due to local superiority in border battles, hammered out, due to the surprise they got the opportunity to choose the place and direction of the strike, and ours could only react to the situation with all the consequences. According to various sources, I met that the preemption of the Germans in deploying against the USSR was 24 days (in someone's memoirs, certainly not Halder, the Germans boasted that it was 28-30 days). And about TB-3 from the movie "The Living and the Dead" is not an idle fiction, there were such cases when everything that was possible was thrown without observing tactics.
                    The soldiers of the 41st, who fought off in the boilers until the last bullet, went to the breakthrough with minimal chances, entered the battle from the wheels without preparing a low bow. And those who were 41-42 on the T-60, T-70 fought a special thank you so much for not whining, but for beating the Germans.
                    With proper use of the T-60, the Germans inflicted significant blows.
  41. pensioner
    pensioner 13 October 2014 22: 54
    +1
    Quote: studentmati
    Quote: retired
    Sasha !!! Dear!! Well, finally, there were worthy people! well ... for you! Cranberry, 42 (??) degrees ...


    For us, Yura! good Ararat is 6 years old! drinks And the T-34 is invincible! drinks

    http://voenhronika.ru/publ/vtoraja_mirovaja_vojna_sssr_khronika/podjom_tankov_ro
    ssija_podborka_iz_18_ehpizodov_2000_2012_god/22-1-0-2916
    Take a look Sasha. Stunned.
    1. studentmati
      studentmati 13 October 2014 23: 33
      +2
      Quote: retired
      Quote: studentmati
      Quote: retired
      Sasha !!! Dear!! Well, finally, there were worthy people! well ... for you! Cranberry, 42 (??) degrees ...


      For us, Yura! good Ararat is 6 years old! drinks And the T-34 is invincible! drinks

      http://voenhronika.ru/publ/vtoraja_mirovaja_vojna_sssr_khronika/podjom_tankov_ro



      ssija_podborka_iz_18_ehpizodov_2000_2012_god/22-1-0-2916
      Take a look Sasha. Stunned.


      Returning to the branch, Yura. You won’t see all the links at once. Thanks for the link, Jura! I read and look with pride that the last of the marshals of the armored forces was a native of my city. And the T-34 tank on a pedestal in 1983 drove under its own power with his participation! Then it was perceived as ordinary, Victory Parades were held very solemnly, colorfully and certainly festively!


      1. pensioner
        pensioner 14 October 2014 00: 01
        +2
        Quote: studentmati
        Returning to the branch, Yura.

        The return of the prodigal son. you at least + or - identify yourself. that he returned, but the rating does not change and hell knows: who returned or not.
        Quote: studentmati
        the last of the marshals of the armored forces was a native of my city.

        From this place in more detail!
        1. studentmati
          studentmati 14 October 2014 00: 06
          +2
          Quote: retired
          The return of the prodigal son. you at least + or - identify yourself. that he returned, but the rating does not change and hell knows: who returned or not.


          + + + +

          Quote: retired
          From this place in more detail!


          Marshal Losik Oleg Alexandrovich!

          Closer than on the Internet the details are not yet time ...
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 14 October 2014 00: 10
            +2
            Quote: studentmati
            Marshal Losik Oleg Alexandrovich!

            I know that. And he if my memory serves me right. then he went from kkapitan-beg. intelligence regiment dr. headquarters of the tank army. The real marshall.
            1. studentmati
              studentmati 14 October 2014 00: 13
              +2
              Quote: retired
              The real marshal.


              Other comments are superfluous.
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 14 October 2014 00: 18
                +2
                The thing is. that I have stupid enough. but a rich infoy book "History of the creation of the USSR tank power" or something like that. In 3 volumes. there is about Moosie. I remember. I also remember about Popel, Armand, Ionne Degen and others ...
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 14 October 2014 00: 27
                  +2
                  Quote: retired
                  The thing is. that I have stupid enough. but a rich infoy book "History of the creation of the USSR tank power" or something like that. In 3 volumes. there is about Moosie. I remember. I also remember about Popel, Armand, Ionne Degen and others ...


                  And I managed to get only two volumes! ... I’m looking for the third!
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 14 October 2014 00: 31
                    +2
                    Selling at a reasonable price. Let's agree ... Your price?
                    And anyway ... why are we sitting? will we still be silent?
                    Well ... For the tank! drinks
                    1. studentmati
                      studentmati 14 October 2014 00: 38
                      +2
                      Quote: retired
                      Well ... For the tank! drinks


                      For the tankmen! drinks Something Alexei TV is not visible?
                      1. pensioner
                        pensioner 14 October 2014 00: 44
                        +1
                        Yes it appears. only rarely. Major 71 is also a tankman. well, a poet who. he owes me grass 2 carts. SILENT ...
              2. pensioner
                pensioner 14 October 2014 00: 21
                +1
                And anyway ... Put on your headphones and dial: "Kingdom of the Curves" Shklyarsky. I sit listening and almost cry ... All the songs of the Picnic are about me ... and about the Kingdom and about the bark I scribbled and about Karelia and about the violet-black ... I sit and cry !!
                Listen. Maybe break through ...
                1. Tyumen
                  Tyumen 14 October 2014 07: 15
                  0
                  You guys would chat in PM, otherwise you would fill up the whole branch with your drunken comments.
  42. kotev19
    kotev19 13 October 2014 23: 08
    +2
    How to understand - 1 euro per kilogram of metal? Is this Polish waste?
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 13 October 2014 23: 17
      +1
      Nikolai Kotev!

      Let's pour! what to think at night, all the same you will not invent anything! For Bulgaria! Not a stranger once was a country to me. Your metallurgical scientists came to us in Sverdlovsk in 1987. (then still ...). I told them and showed the device of our installation for measuring the density of melts with the gamma method in the absolute version. There were funny guys!
  43. ASDik37
    ASDik37 13 October 2014 23: 26
    +2
    Quote: retired
    MS-1 ON THE GO !!!!! Stunned !!

    I have not seen a single CORRECTLY refurbished MS-1 - everyone except small jambs has one big JAM - RUNNING
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 13 October 2014 23: 31
      +1
      Quote: ASDik37
      I have not seen a single CORRECTLY refurbished MS-1

      Well, let’s not pick on trifles! those in pyshma go collected by more than 90% of the original parts. Besides. all MS-1 fought from Pyshma !! It is easy to see if you carefully crouch to them. On the armor, hits of rifle bullets are visible and there is even a break through the collar of the upper hatch. One of them has penetration of an armored box next to the drive wheel. Shatter type penetration.
  44. skylare
    skylare 13 October 2014 23: 35
    +2
    Just a little clarification: if I'm not mistaken, then according to the book "Red" was "Thirty-four" 76, and "Eighty-five" was filmed in the film.
  45. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 13 October 2014 23: 37
    +2
    Here she is - a corrupt Geyropa ..! 49 thousand for the call of one Russian tank ..! There is only enough current left for border guards to throw a thousand, and our tanks will legally enter Tallinn!
    1. viktorrymar
      viktorrymar 14 October 2014 11: 12
      0
      On the Victory Day, the legendary Polish film “Four Tankers and a Dog” celebrated 47 years
      The T-34 / 85 tank, used during the filming, stands in the Poznan Museum of Tank Weapons. Once he served in the army, later he was a model for training, and today - like many other old cars - waiting for visitors.
      10 05 2013

      9 on May 2013 on the Polish television the first episode of the film “Four Tankmen and a Dog” was shown — one of the most popular and most cult Polish films. The plot was based on the story of Janusz Psimianowski 1964 of the year with the same name. In total, in 1966-1970. three seasons of the series were released, according to Gazeta.pl.

      One of the main characters of the series, in addition to people and animals, is "Rudy 102". This is the Soviet T-34 tank, or rather, two tanks equipped with 76 mm guns (first and second series) and 85 mm (third series), respectively. In reality, however, in the series from the first season, tanks equipped with larger guns were shot. “Rudy” bears its proud name from the fifth part of the first series. It was given to him in honor of the red-haired Maroussi, nicknamed Ogonyok (Paul Raks), the Soviet nurse and bride Janek (Janusz Gayos).

      During the shooting, the Rudy tank played four tanks. Two were from the city of Zagan, one from Wroclaw, and one from Poznan. The first two after the filming ended up at the landfill and finally went to scrap. Wroclaw can still be seen in the Museum of Motorization and Technology in the Warsaw suburb of Otrembusy. The Poznan tank, which was used to shoot scenes inside the car (in the second and third series, the layout was used in the first), can still be seen at the CWSL Tank Museum in Poznan.

      Not without reason for the filming of scenes inside was chosen precisely the Poznan T-34 / 85. In those years when the series was shot, the cameras were so large that it would be difficult to install them inside a conventional machine, not to mention maneuvering them inside. However, there were no such problems with the Rudy tank from Poznan - fragments were cut out in several places. There are holes in the front and side of the apex. Thanks to this, operators could easily shoot scenes inside.

      The T-34 / 85 from the Poznan Museum is the original tank of World War II and part of (not only television) history. He found himself in the capital of Greater Poland Voivodeship, because during the battles for Poznan in the 1945 year he was damaged and could not take part in a further campaign. It was decided that there was no point in repairing it, so holes were cut out in it and after the war it was used as a training model. To this day, the machine is equipped on the mechanical side, although its combat value is rather zero.

      The Rudy tank can be seen at the CWSL Tank Museum in Poznan. Currently, he stands among dozens of other exhibits, next to a German rival from World War II. Since the museum is located on the territory of the military unit, in order to visit it, you need to agree in advance. However, on 1 on June 2013, it is planned to make an open day, during which everyone can see historical examples of armored vehicles.
      http://www.newsbalt.ru/detail/?ID=10909
  46. Gray 43
    Gray 43 14 October 2014 00: 04
    +2
    We have to wait, maybe Estonia itself will be bought on sale, by stock
  47. vaaaaadik
    vaaaaadik 14 October 2014 00: 08
    +1
    We must buy, draw red stars and drive along the roads of Estonia, so as not to relax)
  48. studentmati
    studentmati 14 October 2014 00: 36
    +1
    Quote: retired
    "Kingdom of the Curves" Shklyarsky. I sit listening and almost cry ..


    I respect Shklyarsky’s work from the very beginning! good For the depth of thought, in contrast to the markers of society! For pretentious apoliticality (Time Machine), for understanding and simplicity (Kalinov bridge) (although is it much easier?), For moderate philosophy (BG). for, for, for ...
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 14 October 2014 00: 45
      +1
      Quote: studentmati
      I respect Shklyarsky’s work from the very beginning!

      hi hi hi
    2. pensioner
      pensioner 14 October 2014 00: 47
      +1
      Quote: studentmati
      Kalinov bridge)

      Thanks for D. Revyakin! I see you and I are from the same faculty. yes
      1. studentmati
        studentmati 14 October 2014 01: 04
        +1
        Quote: retired
        Thanks for D. Revyakin! I see you and I are from the same faculty. yes


        There is only one faculty - the USSR! It's all here! And birth and a happy childhood, and a stormy youth and awareness of the world. And Revyakin is here too, with his unobtrusiveness.
        For understanding the world, Jura! drinks
        1. pensioner
          pensioner 14 October 2014 01: 12
          +1
          Quote: studentmati
          And Revyakin is here too, with his unobtrusiveness.

          By the way: D. Revyakin -PHYSICIAN !!!
          Quote: studentmati
          For understanding the world, Jura!

          Yes, Sasha. For you.
          1. studentmati
            studentmati 14 October 2014 01: 17
            +1
            Quote: retired
            Yes, Sasha. For you.


            In my understanding, Fyodor Chistyakov from "Zero" also had good topics. What do you think, Yur?
            1. pensioner
              pensioner 14 October 2014 01: 25
              +1
              I agree. He called himself Jimmy Hendrix Russian button accordion.
              But. The undisguised propaganda of drugs (the doctor is traveling ... he is carrying magic powder to people ...) I was very alarmed even then. Then, after a little acquaintance with the world of show business (for example, on a tangent, but enough ...), I found out that they ALL were drug addicts: BG and Makar and everything, everything, everything ...
              1. studentmati
                studentmati 14 October 2014 01: 30
                +1
                Quote: retired
                He called himself Jimmy Hendrix of the Russian slaughter.


                Accordion !!! I think there is a difference? Fyodor’s performance was super !!!


                For that period in
                [img] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPWsLofxQ5c&feature=player_embedded [/ img]
                The drugs BG and Makar were already in the past.
                1. pensioner
                  pensioner 14 October 2014 01: 36
                  +1
                  I’m listening to a picnic ... Well, all of them ... They don’t even stand the tip of Edmud Shklyarsky’s nail. By the way! Shklyarsky is also a physicist !!!
                  1. studentmati
                    studentmati 14 October 2014 01: 49
                    +1
                    Quote: retired
                    I’m listening to a picnic ... Well, all of them ... They don’t even stand the tip of Edmud Shklyarsky’s nail. By the way! Shklyarsky is also a physicist !!!


                    For PHYSICIANS Jura !!! For physics, as a science! Picnic on the air!
                    1. pensioner
                      pensioner 14 October 2014 01: 50
                      +2
                      Quote: studentmati
                      For physics, as a science!

                      And for her darling, as a way of life. yes
                      drinks
                      I am proud: no matter how hard it was, I didn’t cheat on her ... Well, maybe just a little bit - 2 years ... All the rest of the time I was her servant. I will not say that I was the most talented, rather closer to the dilentates, but very devoted. And sometimes she thanked me with her sacraments, which she revealed to me ... 43 publications (including sectoral science ...) + 10 inventions.
                      Once again for PHYSICS! drinks
                      1. studentmati
                        studentmati 14 October 2014 01: 53
                        +1
                        Quote: retired
                        And for her darling, as a way of life. yes
                        drinks


                        For as if invisible, but really tangible! drinks
                      2. pensioner
                        pensioner 14 October 2014 02: 14
                        +2
                        Do not sleep !!!!!! am
                      3. studentmati
                        studentmati 14 October 2014 21: 16
                        0
                        Quote: retired
                        Do not sleep !!!!!! am


                        That's not my fault. He (the brain) himself fell asleep.

                        Quote: retired
                        Nuvso !!! Just try next time to appear !! am Immediately surrender to Vadim !! yes To our ... wink to my beloved ... feel


                        laughing wassat tongue
                      4. pensioner
                        pensioner 14 October 2014 03: 24
                        +1
                        Nuvso !!! Just try next time to appear !! am Immediately surrender to Vadim !! yes Our ... wink Warmly beloved ... repeat
  49. after
    after 14 October 2014 01: 57
    -4
    No matter how strange and wild it may look, a fact is a fact. It turns out that without our knowledge on the vastness of the World Wide Web there is a site http://yourinforr.blogspot.ru and where our personal information is laid out on shelves for each of us, ordinary citizens of Russia. It’s hard to believe, but it’s so, no one is protected.
  50. Viktor Kudinov
    Viktor Kudinov 14 October 2014 02: 32
    +3
    laughing I would definitely take a tank. Yes, there’s nowhere to put it, my wife is against it, the children will decide to shoot. And, to be honest, I don’t have that kind of money. No.
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 14 October 2014 02: 34
      0
      Quote: Victor Kudinov
      I don’t have that kind of money.
      Dame yes . Only 142% per annum .. smile .