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Poroshenko will not return troops from the Donbass to the places of permanent deployment

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The withdrawal of Ukrainian units from the Donbass "is out of the question", according to the official website of Petro Poroshenko.



"We are also focused on preparing for the winter, because of the return of our troops from the ATO area to the place of permanent deployment is not yet possible," - quotes TASS statement of the Ukrainian president.

“Recently, the work of the enterprises of the military-industrial complex (MIC) of Ukraine has been dramatically intensified, for the first time in decades, they have been working in three shifts to develop a new and repaired equipment damaged in battle,” Poroshenko said.

He claims that the enterprises have fulfilled the plan for the supply of new and reconditioned equipment on 80%.

"The modern samples of the new high-precision weapons, new means of reconnaissance, modern fire control systems, ”the president said.

According to him, during the truce, Kiev was able to "partially rotate the military, heal wounds, repair the damaged and deliver new equipment to the area of ​​operation."

In addition, Poroshenko reported an increase in the number of European observers. “I appealed and received a positive response that the OSCE increased the number of observers to 1,500 people. Such a number will allow this respected European organization to fulfill its obligations to monitor the cease-fire, ”the presidential website says.

On Saturday, Petro Poroshenko ordered the transfer to the Kharkiv region to strengthen state and administrative borders additional special forces. On the eve, the press service of the head of state said that "the president appealed to the chief of the General Staff, Colonel-General Viktor Muzhenko with a request to support Gennady Moskal if necessary and consider the possibility of permanently deploying two military brigades in Severodonetsk and Lisichansk."

A little earlier, Yury Lutsenko’s advisor to the Ukrainian president informed the press about the delivery of several hundred armored vehicles to the Donbass: “I don’t have the right to say the exact figure, but I can assure you: hundreds of armored vehicles have arrived at the front these days. And thousands of trained troops, much better prepared than in the first days, are now undergoing rotation. ”

In addition, in the coming days Poroshenko expects to achieve a complete cease-fire in the east of the country. “We expect in the coming days to achieve a complete cease-fire. Once this happens, the creation of a buffer zone will begin. Both sides should divert heavy weapons at least 15 kilometers into controlled areas, ”the president quotes. RIA News.

Also, according to him, the authorities continue to fight for the release of Ukrainian prisoners of war. “Already almost one and a half thousand of our prisoners, our people who were held hostage, managed to free the terrorists from the dungeons,” Poroshenko said.
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    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 13 October 2014 11: 16
      +6
      Poroshenko is not in the mood for a peaceful dialogue with Novorossia, he has priority in resolving the issue by military means, and he uses the truce to accumulate forces, in this truce lies a strategic error of the anti-fascist forces.
      1. DRA-88
        DRA-88 13 October 2014 11: 31
        +1
        Those. Parashka is not going to leave the 2 / 3 occupied territories of New Russia.
        But does the People of New Russia want to live under the occupation of the junta?
        1. larand
          larand 13 October 2014 11: 48
          +2
          Quote: DRA-88
          Those. Parashka is not going to leave the 2 / 3 occupied territories of New Russia.
          But does the People of New Russia want to live under the occupation of the junta?

          He waited for when the Russian Federation took its soldiers to the winter apartments and made a statement.
        2. aleks700
          aleks700 13 October 2014 13: 03
          0
          Those. Parashka is not going to leave the 2 / 3 occupied territories of New Russia.
          But does the People of New Russia want to live under the occupation of the junta?
          But is he going to ask the people?
        3. theadenter
          theadenter 13 October 2014 15: 20
          0
          The junta counted everything "well", and counted as many as 70% of the supporters of the unity of Ukraine in the territories of Donbass occupied by the junta's troops. wassat

          Already even on the censor in the comments, they ironically remark: give out 70% of these weapons, and no ATO will be needed. What are they gullible and naive ... crying
        4. Alexan
          Alexan 13 October 2014 16: 32
          0
          And who and what will make him do it? The Russian Federation is not interested in this. Nobody will consider our emotions. The people of New Russia? Do not forget that in the enemy territorial battalions there are a lot of Donbass people who are consciously against the DPR. Only ideological militias are ready for war. But they already block oxygen. I myself do not want to open my eyes, it is better to stay in patriotic euphoria, like most on the forum!
          1. al-kazaz
            al-kazaz 13 October 2014 23: 41
            0
            ME FROM PATRIOTIC EUFORIA AT THE FORUM, T, H, AND ON THIS, ALMOST ALREADY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DELIVERED ONLY, THERE NOW WHERE GETTING NOW THE IDEAL MILITONS AND VOLUNTEERS, LITTLE BETTER, it is awfully costly! !
      2. Vita_vko
        Vita_vko 13 October 2014 13: 40
        +1
        A truce, such as a temporary lull, is needed so that fascist radical war parties come to power during the elections to the Rada. The ongoing hostilities intensified anti-war sentiment, and this was noticed by Parashenko's American advisers, who gave the go-ahead to the Minsk Molotov-Rebintropp Pact. After the elections on the remnants of Ukraine, the war will surely move into a new, much more terrible and bloody phase. Now powerful forts and fortified areas are being built around Novorossiya. Under the cover of which, in the winter, sabotage and terrorist activities in the territory controlled by the DPR, LPR and the Russian Federation will multiply. And in the spring, with the appearance of "greenery", the junta will end the accumulation of forces and means and the real "Blitz Krieg" and mass genocide will begin.
        In no case should such a development of events be allowed.
      3. Vancha
        Vancha 13 October 2014 14: 53
        0
        Poroshenko-doll in the hands of Washington
      4. al-kazaz
        al-kazaz 13 October 2014 21: 44
        0
        THE POROSHENKO SIGNATURE DOES NOT COST ONE ONE DOCUMENT ABOUT T.N. PEREKIRIA, ONLY THE KURKMA GINGER FRADS WERE UNUSUAL, WHAT IT CAN BE TALKED ABOUT
    2. nikrandel
      nikrandel 13 October 2014 11: 17
      +5
      So much for the truce, father, any word Parashenkov’s penny is not worth a damn!
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      2. Viktor Kudinov
        Viktor Kudinov 13 October 2014 11: 30
        0
        repeat Yes, it’s such a preparation for peace - to hit it at once from all that is.
    3. GRAMARI111
      GRAMARI111 13 October 2014 11: 32
      +4
      Yesterday, a certain American citizen spoke in Solovyov’s program. So, he told the public that in fact the Americans have no principles. I mean, if they need something, then they do it and do not care about other factors: war, death ... The main thing is that the US is profitable, and the rest is on the drum. What way will this benefit be extracted - to the bulb. Amerkians need war in the Donbas. And the truce - it was a temporary maneuver, advantageous to the United States - during this time, as the Yankees' servant Poroshenko reported, - the ruins were patched up by some holes in the military industry. That's all. The war continues
      1. predator.3
        predator.3 13 October 2014 12: 10
        +3
        Quote: GRAMARI111
        - The ruin got some holes in the military industry. That's all. War continues

        I also think so, they will hold elections to the Rada, and they will start again, especially in all plants the restoration of military equipment is in full swing! without the next maidan and complete collapse of the country will not calm down!
        1. GRAMARI111
          GRAMARI111 13 October 2014 12: 20
          0
          Ruin's main dill sleeps and sees how Ruin turns ... turns Ruin into Somalia and Afghanistan ...
    4. 1812 1945
      1812 1945 13 October 2014 12: 32
      0
      Quote: Bormental
      "Now they are undergoing rotation" - they are learning to take it in their mouths, or what?

      They do everything badly. And it is good to take it in your mouth (!) - it is especially useful. - Sikorsky shared his experience in this regard. Other surprises: "Poroshenko will not return troops from Donbass to places of permanent deployment."- Really does not want to live for free in Guantanamo or Alcatraz !? Okay, this is humor. But to believe in the possibility of negotiating peaceful initiatives in the US is oligophrenia or betrayal.
  2. Vend
    Vend 13 October 2014 11: 13
    0
    Almost 1,500 of our prisoners, our people who were held hostage, have already been freed from the dungeons of terrorists. ”

    In the dungeons and pits are militias, which the Nazis scoff at.
  3. Vorchun
    Vorchun 13 October 2014 11: 13
    +5
    Funny star on a cap with a guy standing behind
    1. volot-voin
      volot-voin 13 October 2014 11: 19
      +2
      Quote: Vorchun
      Funny star on a cap with a guy standing behind

      The national symbol of the ruling Kiev regime. It would be funny if it were not so sad.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 13 October 2014 11: 35
      +1
      Quote: Vorchun
      Funny star on a cap with a guy standing behind


      By the way, yes! But this is not a star, but the logo of METINVEST-company Akhmetov !!!!!
  4. sanja.grw
    sanja.grw 13 October 2014 11: 13
    +8
    Which country, such and heroes
  5. Name
    Name 13 October 2014 11: 13
    +2
    "Troops" of dill for the winter independently redeploy to their homes, without orders from the high command. On your own. winked
    1. al-kazaz
      al-kazaz 13 October 2014 21: 41
      0
      NO, NOT FOR THIS THEY ARE ALREADY WHICH ACCORDING TO THE ACCOUNT, THE CEREBRATION HAD BROKEN, ANYWHERE THEY ARE GOOD WITHOUT ANYTHING, AGAIN WILL HAVE TO EXTEND, AND THE SITUATION BECOMES EVERY EVERYDAY EVERYDAY
  6. RUSS
    RUSS 13 October 2014 11: 14
    +1
    Poroshenko will not return troops from the Donbass to the places of permanent deployment

    This is not news anymore the other day he said that, on the contrary, he was strengthening the presence of troops in the Donbass with a permanent deployment, he was waiting for the go-ahead from Washington.
  7. Stanislav 1978
    Stanislav 1978 13 October 2014 11: 15
    +1
    What kind of ceasefire can we talk about if Poroshenko is only waiting for the readiness of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to continue the war.
  8. Oldwiser
    Oldwiser 13 October 2014 11: 16
    +2
    The Minsk Agreement in action - the Ukronazis will "remain" in their positions. And the question is - why should we supply armored vehicles and artillery "to the front" if heavy weapons should be withdrawn "beyond the boundaries of the buffer zone"?
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 October 2014 11: 16
    +1
    On the withdrawal of Ukrainian units from the Donbass "there is no question"

    And this says only one thing - Poroshenko is not going to end the war. A question for our "pigeons" - was it worth signing a truce when the militia smashed the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Nazis in almost all directions?
  10. ISKANDER25
    ISKANDER25 13 October 2014 11: 19
    +4
    Hello! What was required to prove! PARAShenko doesn’t control not only that Popryglandia doesn’t even control himself, America rules everything !!!
  11. Southern Urals
    Southern Urals 13 October 2014 11: 20
    +1
    This truce was not necessary, I hope Novorossia does not sit still and is preparing as well as dill! angry soldier
  12. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 13 October 2014 11: 23
    +1
    and what, someone doubted the "honesty and decency" of Poroshenko's dill?
  13. Agat
    Agat 13 October 2014 11: 23
    +2
    Poroshenko has heart problems? That he always clutches at the heart? "Sorry for the man!"
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 13 October 2014 11: 27
      +2
      Quote: Agat
      Poroshenko has heart problems? That he always clutches at the heart? "Sorry for the man!"

      stop Checks if the wallet is in place. yes
    2. Loner_53
      Loner_53 13 October 2014 11: 28
      +1
      He has problems with his head am
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 13 October 2014 11: 32
        +1
        Quote: retired
        Checks if the wallet is in place.
        Not all a penny means I donated it to the defense fund. Well, we understand ..
    3. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 13 October 2014 11: 38
      +2
      Quote: Agat
      Poroshenko has heart problems? That he always clutches at the heart? "Sorry for the man!"

      he, a shit, with a conscience of a problem, has no idea, and his heart, or even some liver, is secondary.
  14. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 13 October 2014 11: 26
    +1
    Preparing to Continue Genocide tv r am ! The owner from overseas has allowed everything !!! am
  15. Loner_53
    Loner_53 13 October 2014 11: 32
    0
    Quote: OldWiser
    The Minsk Agreement in action - the Ukronazis will "remain" in their positions. And the question is - why should we supply armored vehicles and artillery "to the front" if heavy weapons should be withdrawn "beyond the boundaries of the buffer zone"?

    I would say a conspiracy against New Russia! And many just do not want to admit it yet, although they feel it with their hearts sad
  16. tank64rus
    tank64rus 13 October 2014 11: 37
    0
    It's time to ask our "doves of peace" why then these "agreements". In order to play along with the United States and substitute GDP. Let Surkov comment on this with his comrades.
  17. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 October 2014 11: 56
    0
    The junta will continue to stifle the republics, and, accordingly, they do not care about all the truces and "silence".
  18. jovanni
    jovanni 13 October 2014 11: 56
    0
    Nothing, the time will come, they will run away without the permission of Parashenkov’s ... To places of constant deployment. To Zhinka under the barrels. No, well, of course, anyone who does not want to be a gin will then be relocated to another world ...
  19. Dali
    Dali 13 October 2014 11: 58
    0
    Ndass ... you can rephrase ... everything that is done, everything for the worse ...

    And what is going on in the leadership of the LPR, DPR, and why have they still not united in New Russia ?! That is the question ... !!! One gets the impression that the Minsk agreements will lead, in the end, to even more great victims ....
  20. Bear13
    Bear13 13 October 2014 12: 00
    0
    I don’t understand why the hell the production of the Roshen factory in Lipetsk has been resumed !!! Did this goat cry into our vest or what?
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 13 October 2014 12: 06
      0
      Quote: Bear13
      I don’t understand why the hell the production of the Roshen factory in Lipetsk has been resumed !!! Did this goat cry into our vest or what?


      In "Pyaterochka" its sweets are in bulk, and in Ukraine, special shelves for Russian goods are introduced in stores
      1. Bear13
        Bear13 13 October 2014 12: 16
        0
        I agree that I bypass all the shelves with this product, as well as with Vinnitsa, etc. (I mean dill in our stores)
  21. Non-war
    Non-war 13 October 2014 12: 01
    +2
    Poroshenko will not return troops from the Donbass to the places of permanent deployment - and this was clear to the horse. On the contrary, the military group will be increased, driven up by new equipment and forward in a new, after winter.
  22. runway
    runway 13 October 2014 12: 04
    0
    It is clear to any person who does not even live in Ukraine that Parashenko will not stop the war in New Russia. Not only his election campaign was based on this, but his personal convictions and all his subsequent actions. Everything Russian is an enemy for him.
    In accordance with this, the response by the hands of the leaders in the Kremlin and the militias in Novorossia should be appropriate. For this, it is necessary to unite all the militia forces under a single MILITARY command and provide the population of the young Republic with continuous comprehensive assistance.
    And the Kremlin’s leaders will immediately stop the undercover games to surrender New Russia to Crimea and preserve their assets abroad!
  23. wladimir
    wladimir 13 October 2014 12: 06
    +1
    getting ready for revenge
  24. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 October 2014 12: 15
    0
    After the winter there will be no one to command forward. In order to fight, money is needed, and now they are rapidly slipping into hyperinflation. With the general embezzlement of embezzlement and postscripts. Including repair of military equipment.
    1. Non-war
      Non-war 13 October 2014 13: 58
      +1
      and now they are rapidly slipping into hyperinflation - Do you know what hyperinflation is and at what rate is it growing? The hryvnia has now stabilized at 13,5 per dollar.
  25. sergant6776
    sergant6776 13 October 2014 12: 15
    +1
    This is their answer to our challenge. We’ll give them more gas ... the other day so that the Nazis don’t freeze in winter .... Long live our Great Mighty Unpredictable .... And with the Russians ... go with them. It looks something like this.
  26. gozmos
    gozmos 13 October 2014 12: 23
    0
    Cheers in the DNI will have new military equipment))))
  27. bistrov.
    bistrov. 13 October 2014 12: 48
    +1
    It is quite clear that the Bandera-fascist junta did not abandon its plans to destroy the rebellious republics by military means, although it was defeated at the initial stage. The militia destroyed the ideologically intoxicated units and units of the Ukrovermacht, and also lost a large number of the most combat-ready equipment. Now they have quickly sewn new units. and replenished the old ones with elderly reservists and hastily sent them to the "eastern front." Of course, there is no shortage of equipment. Only in 2012 there was talk about 2200 T-64 tanks stored in Ukrainian arsenals. But these tanks stood in the open for more 20 years and require significant, and sometimes overhaul, and this is not so fast, but to teach and prepare the crew, it takes even longer. Therefore, any talk about the supply of hundreds of tanks to the Ukrainian troops raises doubts, but in addition to tanks, we also need ammunition, fuel, food, warm clothing and footwear, warm dugouts for personnel, medicines, and so on. And all this costs a lot of money. And where to get them if they are not. But it is known that aimless sitting in trenches, especially in winter, decomposes the army much more. And the winter in eastern Ukraine is much worse than even in Kiev. The militias also do not need to waste time in vain. The issue of uniting both their Armed Forces and state education, the creation of a monetary unit, a tax system, and so on.
  28. pravednik
    pravednik 13 October 2014 12: 48
    0
    Well gentlemen, have you waited? Wait soon, the Ukrainians will go on the offensive again, bombing the settlements of Novorossia again. What will be said then by those who are so eager for this truce, giving time to restore the Ukram army. How could one trust them?
  29. Rivares
    Rivares 13 October 2014 13: 21
    0
    And in the photo to the right of Poroshenko, on a man’s helmet, a Jewish star)
  30. Vovanische
    Vovanische 13 October 2014 13: 28
    0
    Lord, find a Jewish god and tell him that one of his slaves pretended to be hohlom and kills ordinary Slavic people, maybe since Poroshenko does not recognize himself as a Jew, then the Jewish god does not want to be responsible for his Jew, so explain to him, in your opinion, in my own way that this is not done in Holy Russia. Thank you in advance, my God, and I’m going to church, let’s put a candle on a good deed, let’s let God down.
  31. vladushqa92
    vladushqa92 13 October 2014 13: 33
    0
    “We are also focused on preparations for the winter, because there can be no talk of returning our troops from the anti-terrorist operation zone to places of permanent deployment” - all because soon there will be no one to return.
  32. Cossack
    Cossack 13 October 2014 14: 34
    0
    "Poroshenko will not return troops from Donbass to their places of permanent deployment" - why should they return, the troops, if part of the personnel is killed and some are taken prisoner?
    1. alien50
      alien50 13 October 2014 17: 16
      0
      And why should they be returned? bully