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China and Russia: broad prospects for friendship and cooperation

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China and Russia: broad prospects for friendship and cooperation


Dear readers of "Rossiyskaya Gazeta"! On the eve of my official visit to Russia, the good neighbor of China, and the 19 meeting of the heads of government of the two countries I would like to convey to you the warmest greetings and best wishes.

The Russian people are a wise people, capable of exerting a profound influence on the development processes of world civilization, science and technology, on social development processes, a people who always rush forward and have great vitality and energy.

Sino-Russian friendship, which has its roots in the distant past, is now filled with new content of modernity. Rising to the period of the big tea trade in the 17 century, sealed by the blood of two nations in the anti-fascist war, our friendship was further developed and strengthened both in the joint struggle against the terrible flood in the Heilongjiang River basin, and during the formation of a single network of oil, gas, electricity and transport. And the Sino-Russian interaction, based on this friendship, being long-term, sustainable and strategic, is not subject to any fluctuations in the international situation and to the influence of any external factors.

I note that trade between our countries reached a record high last year and amounted to 90 billion US dollars. For the fourth year, China remains the largest trading partner of Russia, and Russia is the ninth for China. Investing in Russia from China, the fourth source of investment for our northern neighbor, today totals $ 32 billion. Moreover, a number of strong Chinese private enterprises are starting to open their business in the Russian market, and Russian enterprises and financial institutions, like their Chinese partners, are also actively deploying their activities in China. The big event was the creation of a mechanism of cooperation between the regions of the upper and middle reaches of the Yangtze River and the Volga River Basin. This undertaking can be figuratively characterized as "historical the merger of the mother rivers of the two great countries. Let me remind you that we have yet to develop a cooperation program that includes more than 150 priority joint projects at once in both investment and humanitarian fields. Behind the large program is great cooperation, and therefore a great chance for business , as well as a big benefit to the population.

Cultural and humanitarian exchanges of the two countries are being intensified. Each year, the bilateral tourist flow is over 3 million people. Direct air communication is already open between many seemingly distant cities, such as St. Petersburg, Vladivostok, Harbin, Sanya, while the number of routes continues to increase. Today, when our citizens, sitting in bars, sing the songs “Moscow Evenings” and “Where Peach Flowers Blossom,” they do not so much remember the old days as they dream of a brighter future for our countries.

China and Russia are the largest neighbors whose bilateral relations are entering a new stage of development. We are with you - not only good neighbors, but also like-minded friends and reliable partners in mutually beneficial cooperation. Our relationship is rightly considered a vivid example of equal interaction between the states of the 21 century. To give additional impetus to the strengthening of all-round strategic cooperation between China and Russia and to transform the advantage of a high level of political ties into real benefits for our peoples - this is the purpose of my upcoming visit to Russia.

China is now undergoing a comprehensive deepening of reforms and the promotion of a new type of industrialization, informatization, urbanization and modernization of agriculture. We will, as before, increase the level of openness, expand access of foreign capital to the Chinese market and provide domestic enterprises with more independence in conducting investment activities abroad. We are well aware that the investment environment in Russia is significantly improving, the strategy of modernizing the economy is being comprehensively implemented in order to increase its competitiveness. I can say that in the processes occurring in our countries, the potentials in the depths of our economies are able to express themselves with new force. So we should make good use of these chances to expand the range of coinciding interests, deepen interaction in various areas and establish the closest economic ties between each other.

Innovative cooperation has become a brilliant moment in the Sino-Russian cooperation. Our countries are facing urgent tasks of changing the structure of the economy and the transformation of the development model. It is important in this regard to develop a new model of interaction and expand the areas of cooperation. During our visit to Russia, we will be present with Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev at the 3-th Moscow International Innovation Development Forum "Open Innovations", with the hope of discussing the issue of innovation development with scientists and entrepreneurs of Russia and other countries. As the sole partner of the Forum, China will hold a series of relevant events on the sidelines of the Forum. Let me remind you that next year, as a partner country, we will also take part in the 6 International Industrial Exhibition Innoprom 2015. We believe that the time has come to significantly increase the share of scientific and technical innovation in bilateral cooperation using the possibilities of innovative cooperation.

It seems to me that more importantly, this is what we need, in accordance with the spirit of the times - peace and cooperation, as well as with the requirements of developing bilateral relations at the present stage, in the spirit of innovation, to carry out joint development, joint use of developments and cooperation. At the same time, it is necessary to expand the geography of interaction and distribute it in the field of high-tech engineering, energy-saving technologies, environmental protection, biopharmaceuticals, information technologies and financial services. Fulfilling these and other tasks, as I firmly believe, serves the interests of changing the structure of the economy and strengthening the combined power of our countries.

Russian writer I.S. Turgenev said that "for sure, our life is fast and insignificant, but all great things are accomplished through people." The Chinese poem echoes Russian wisdom, which says: "The crane soars soar into the sky, as if imitating my high aspirations."

And so we will, as always, go forward hand in hand, by joint efforts to raise to a new height our indestructible friendship and promising cooperation.

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  1. Prince sofa
    Prince sofa 11 October 2014 18: 04
    -8
    Which d.o.s.a. will believe the prime minister of a foreign state?
    1. Момент
      Момент 11 October 2014 18: 09
      +12
      Now it’s profitable, and there will be a lot of work in Brix. And time will tell.
    2. Koloradovatnik
      Koloradovatnik 11 October 2014 18: 14
      +2
      Who else, but I DO NOT BELIEVE in long-term friendship between Russia and China. As long as we have a common enemy - yes, "strategic partners". Once the common enemy ... is defeated, guess from three tries, on whose territory the big eastern neighbor will lay its eyes? "Citizens of the Soviet Union! You live in Chinese territory!" Nobody remembers?
      1. Wanderer H7
        Wanderer H7 11 October 2014 19: 47
        -1
        Yes, China is only a temporary partner, nothing more. and potential enemy
        1. shurup75
          shurup75 11 October 2014 21: 15
          +1
          THE ENEMY OF MY ENEMY IS MY FRIEND !!!
      2. shurup75
        shurup75 11 October 2014 21: 11
        -2
        actually we are citizens of RUSSIA
      3. mark_rod
        mark_rod 11 October 2014 23: 06
        0
        I believe, I don’t believe it, it's for a camomile! Now and here we need it or not - that’s the question! There is only one answer .... and we all know him!
      4. Blondy
        Blondy 12 October 2014 08: 16
        0
        "Citizens of the Soviet Union! You live in Chinese territory!"
        And the territory from Chukotka to the Urals.
      5. Zhekson
        Zhekson 12 October 2014 16: 28
        0
        Do not distort. It was said about the island of Dalian. When the showdown was. And before this exacerbation, Khrushchev did not behave very graciously with China. And if we recall now that Khrushchev spoke about China? again muzzle beat each other?
    3. mark1
      mark1 11 October 2014 18: 15
      +10
      But he doesn’t lure us anywhere and doesn’t promise anything unrealizable. It is about developing friendship and cooperation. I am for friendship with China, should we still be friends with someone other than the army and navy
    4. Sterlya
      Sterlya 11 October 2014 18: 28
      +6
      Russian-Chinese relations should be stronger than ever. we have a common enemy. Western imperialism.
      1. marshes
        marshes 11 October 2014 18: 42
        +1
        Quote: Sterlya
        Russian-Chinese relations should be stronger than ever. we have a common enemy. Western imperialism.

        It’s funny, but it’s advisable to speak to Mr.
        The word comrade and comrade "distorts" them. smile This is so for those who want to do business.
        Something like that, Schinschau, something like that.
    5. Giant thought
      Giant thought 11 October 2014 18: 34
      +4
      We need to be friends with China, but keep our ears open.
      1. mark1
        mark1 11 October 2014 18: 40
        +6
        Quote: Thought Giant
        With this ear to keep an eye out.

        That's right - "keeping an eye out" must be in relations with any state.
        1. alone
          alone 11 October 2014 19: 40
          +2
          what China reminds me of the hero of one of the poems. The essence of the fable poem was that the Bear and the Lion caught the hare together, decided to share it. During the division, there was a fight between them. So while they fought, Fox quietly stole the hare and ate it.
        2. Wanderer H7
          Wanderer H7 11 October 2014 19: 49
          +2
          with China - especially!
          1. Metlik
            Metlik 11 October 2014 20: 32
            +1
            China has a lot to learn. But the most important thing is not to let the US quarrel.
    6. Denis fj
      Denis fj 11 October 2014 22: 16
      +1
      You need to be friends with those who value you and with whom there are common ground. Wise people spoke of looking closer east rather than west, back in the 90s, but no one listened to them. If you reoriented in time, the world would be different
      1. marshes
        marshes 11 October 2014 22: 28
        0
        Quote: denis fj
        , wise people spoke back in the 90s, but no one listened to them.

        you didn’t vote with your mind, but ... with your heart
        The Communist Party has degenerated ...
        You can’t revive the empire, all that’s left is to save what’s left. It will be difficult.
        The bear will die, the tiger rules the ball. It is desirable that he did not recall what happened.
        1. Stypor23
          Stypor23 11 October 2014 22: 33
          0
          Wow, what a handsome man.
          Quote: marshes
          you didn’t vote with your mind, but ... with your heart

          Where have you been, my dear?
          1. marshes
            marshes 11 October 2014 23: 02
            0
            Quote: Stypor23
            Where have you been, my dear?

            In Kazakhstan, I listened to the stories of those, 96 years old, who were in the Chechen Republic, those who came out alive from there. Yes, they were already citizens of the Russian Federation, their parents were still KZ. And how they looked around in cafes, but we have Chechens and Ingush, Meskhetian Turks and other Caucasian peoples have their own "business."
    7. mark_rod
      mark_rod 11 October 2014 23: 05
      -1
      Like a prince of a sofa, and even with bugs! bully
      1. marshes
        marshes 11 October 2014 23: 27
        -1
        And I will add, I can go to the Oktober Fest or on Christmas, all the same "rogue" for 200 thousand, as they say in Euro, bought-200 km from Holland, North Rhine-Westphalia. laughing since 1996 they live and the house can’t afford. laughing rogue. couple cottage and one-room apartment .... laughing
  2. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 11 October 2014 18: 07
    +9
    It is necessary to continue to develop Russian-Chinese cooperation in all areas. soldier
    1. Cenij150814
      Cenij150814 11 October 2014 19: 11
      +3
      During preliminary consultations, the Chinese side showed particular interest in the supply of engines of the RD-170 family. These engines, created as part of the Energy-Buran collapsed program, are the largest fluid engines ever created.
      One of the conditions of the Chinese side is not only the supply of the engines themselves, but also the transfer of technology to deploy their production in China
      http://polit.ru/news/2014/10/10/propulsion/
      Such cooperation stinks foolishly, China shook us in such ways twenty years later and will not choke, for this it has all the possibilities, like no one else, a bunch hardworking population, finances, an army growing by leaps and bounds, there is no desire to sell everything that is possible as some have (one example is the admission of Chinese firms to develop West Siberian deposits, as I understood shale, oil and gas, and the question arises, how but ethology, in Ukraine it’s impossible to shout, and that there are no rivers, swamps and everything else?) but rather the opposite, and most importantly patriotism to the marrow in all layers of society, at this time, some people behave like mugs!
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 11 October 2014 23: 41
        +2
        China managed in one way or another to make war with most of its neighbors, and, practically, to all neighboring countries it has territorial claims exceeding the area of ​​China itself. It feels like some people are ready to sell the skin of their penis for a moment's money, or it is sacred to believe that the Chinese will protect us from the West ... Partners, yes, as friends in misfortune, temporary fellow travelers, and nothing more. Do not flatter yourself, internationalism is alien to the Chinese, as well as broad gestures of forgiving debts and disinterested assistance, their socialism or communism only for their beloved China, this is the same as the "socialism" of the Germans under Hitler, the Chinese have their own "national communism." They achieve their goals and do not forget anything. We need to have common sense, to strengthen the strength of Russia, and not to drool with affection, losing vigilance and hoping that someone else will solve our problems.
        1. marshes
          marshes 11 October 2014 23: 51
          -2
          Quote: Per se.
          the Chinese have their own "national communism".

          teach, at least the story, they MAO nists.
          In Cambodia, Kampuchea, there was such a type of Pol Pot, in Moscow there was an MAOIst student, he didn’t interrupt his people, China helped. As long as the Vietnamese did not pick up, they couldn’t catch them.
          As in the Inter-girl-fuck I torture like Paul Pot-Kampuchea.
          1. Per se.
            Per se. 12 October 2014 21: 15
            +1
            Quote: marshes
            teach, at least the story, they MAO nists.
            In Germany, there was Hitlerism, under the officially proclaimed National Socialism, of which Adolf Hitler was a party member. It is no coincidence that I put "national communism" in quotation marks when speaking of China, as this is a figurative comparison. This mentoring tone is not necessary here, Mao's ideas make an ideology, where China is the newly-minted "navel" of the earth, and the Chinese are the hegemons of the whole world. Namely, China struck a blow at the communist ideology, according to which we were taught that war is impossible between the socialist countries, with the events in Damanskoye and aggression against Vietnam. Therefore, their "Communist Party", with its tasks, is somewhat akin to Hitler's party, with German National Socialism, which attacked the Soviet Union, which was not prevented by "common" "socialist" roots, pre-war friendship, and even a pact of non-aggression. Maoism, like Hitlerism, had inspirers of ideas, the same Hitler took a lot from Nietzsche, and Mao here is only an adapter of the old, like the world, cult of domination to national characteristics and needs.
  3. vsoltan
    vsoltan 11 October 2014 18: 09
    +1
    It was smooth on paper ... softly spread ... and other sayings.
  4. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 11 October 2014 18: 17
    +4
    Strengthening comprehensive strategic cooperation between China and Russia should be the goal of our states. soldier drinks
  5. Second
    Second 11 October 2014 18: 32
    -3
    With such a "friend" as China, we no longer need enemies. I repeat, what is happening in the sale of our military technologies to China is a direct national betrayal of Russia. All this will then travel, crawl, fly, float to the Far East and Siberia. By the way, the Chinese themselves do not hide this. In general, these "friends" and "partners" got sick. Bandera are partners, the Chinese are friends, NATO are partners, the United States are our Western partners. It is for "them" they are partners, and for us enemies.
    PS And where it is interesting all this iron will creep. Not to Japan at all.
    1. Nitarius
      Nitarius 11 October 2014 18: 56
      0
      China Enough Smart Power! and not so impudent AS US with FASHINGTON!
      1. alone
        alone 11 October 2014 19: 42
        +5
        Quote: Nitarius
        China Enough Smart Power! and not so impudent AS US with FASHINGTON!


        be afraid of the one who always looks down and that river that flows quietly.
    2. i80186
      i80186 11 October 2014 20: 08
      +1
      Quote: Second
      And where it is interesting all this iron will creep. Not to Japan at all.

      To South Korea for example, or to Pakistan, Iraq. There where there is more oil, and there is not much taiga. Tanks in the taiga, they do not crawl very well. They are closer there, and the thermonuclear power supply unit can not be so much feared.
      1. Second
        Second 11 October 2014 20: 23
        +1
        Thanks for quoting. I give an excerpt, this news has long been no secret to anyone:
        "In Jiayin County, Heilongjiang Province, the construction of two highways is intensively going on - the 114-kilometer section of Heihe-Jiayin and the 103-kilometer Suibin-Jiayin highway. The opening of traffic along the entire length of these highways is planned on October 1 this year. Also, construction of a number of highways has begun near the borders with the Russian Federation. second class. The interlocutor of "SP", whom the publication calls "an expert on China's problems", Alexander Aladdin is sure that this is preparation for war. it is a threat to the strategic security of Khabarovsk, the Far East and Russia itself in the future.
        "China is already building concrete-based broadband roads towards the Russian border to withstand the load of moving heavy equipment and weapons," Aladdin said.
        PS There are dozens of such news. Ask yourself: How many military intelligence officers of China, under the guise of migrant workers, are now working for the great China in Siberia and the Far East. And we are discussing the law of the ghoul-Rosenblum ...
    3. saag
      saag 11 October 2014 20: 12
      0
      Quote: Second
      Not to Japan at all.

      In Vietnam if that
      1. Second
        Second 11 October 2014 20: 29
        +2
        And after Vietnam to us.
  6. Stypor23
    Stypor23 11 October 2014 18: 45
    0
    It’s a pity Mr. Romanov is already sleeping, a topic for discussion, you can’t think of a better idea. It is true that some of the members of the forum here noticed that the Soviet generals would have been enough of such Russian-Chinese cooperation.
    1. Second
      Second 11 October 2014 20: 09
      +4
      Tooting. This entire oligarchic clan is stupidly squandering our military developments. In Soviet times, these squeaky and a little bitty "effective managers" would have been shot for military treason. QUICKLY AND WITHOUT TALKING. The fact is that these oligarchic rats are not going to live in Russia. From here they bring children, grandmothers, and with the Chinese, they, in their naivety, think to come to an agreement, like we will cut resources together. But the Chinese don't think so. In the future, they will cut resources, but alone. They do not need these oligarchic tricksters.
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 11 October 2014 22: 27
        +2
        Quote: Second
        In Soviet times, these squeaky and a little bitty "effective managers" would have been shot for military treason

        Do not forget about confiscation.
        I wonder why people forget about Damansky. These Chinese, as Jews, are only Asians.
        1. marshes
          marshes 11 October 2014 22: 41
          +2
          Quote: Stypor23
          .Cunning these Chinese, straight Jews, only Asians.

          Well, if you remember Hong Kong, where you were "given a ride" - or rather the owners of all sorts of funds - and what about the Rothschild Jews, by the way, are great friends of mainland China.
          Quote: Stypor23
          I wonder why people forget about Damansky

          But the Chinese do not forget, and they create new MLRS systems, although they suffer with a range, "or 200 km or maybe more. A loss of 70%, they may rejoice, the incentive will be, and they, after all, 1 BILLION 300 MILLION is how to estimate ... There will be rich party members ... how hard it is to imagine, well, there are a lot of them ...
          1. Stypor23
            Stypor23 11 October 2014 22: 47
            0
            Quote: marshes
            Well, if you remember Hong Kong, where did you get a ride?

            Themselves, I see, nishtyak settled in Europe. Well, there will also be a caliphate soon, don’t be very happy.
            1. marshes
              marshes 11 October 2014 23: 11
              0
              Quote: Stypor23
              Themselves, I see, nishtyak settled in Europe. Well, there will also be a caliphate soon, don’t be very happy.

              No, I'm from Kazakhstan, the provider is stirring something. smile
              Caliphate laughing Brother in the mosque works., Iman’s assistant laughing
              On Kurbayn Ait, I killed and divided a ram myself, as it should, only I asked my younger brother.
              1. Stypor23
                Stypor23 11 October 2014 23: 17
                0
                Quote: marshes
                No, I'm from Kazakhstan

                So worry about Kazakhstan. It is not clear that we were so saddened by our fate. wink
                1. marshes
                  marshes 11 October 2014 23: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: Stypor23
                  So worry about Kazakhstan. It is not clear that we were so saddened by our fate.

                  But what do your countrymen worry about? laughing
                  1. Stypor23
                    Stypor23 11 October 2014 23: 31
                    -1
                    Quote: marshes
                    Quote: Stypor23
                    So worry about Kazakhstan. It is not clear that we were so saddened by our fate.

                    But what do your countrymen worry about? laughing

                    Nope, most are overwhelmed with optimism.
  7. marshes
    marshes 11 October 2014 18: 51
    0
    In general, I wanted to ask the Russians, the opinion of Chinese cars, I know about trucks, about cars.
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 11 October 2014 19: 42
      0
      Chinese cars no matter how sorry it is better than our LAD but spare parts .....
      1. marshes
        marshes 11 October 2014 21: 03
        0
        Seriously? Those models are from the Mitsubi, the engine, at the expense of decay. The truth is ye ..... design.
        Cheap, plastic is amazing, but in KZ there are few of them, cars, I’m just interested. By the way, we have a lot of 20 year old meal, in percentage terms it’s about 70%.
        1. Fedor Andreevich
          Fedor Andreevich 14 October 2014 23: 41
          0
          Chinese passenger car slag is rare for the most part. My acquaintances had Gili-MK, so for 3 years they completely repainted the body and changed 3 gearboxes (consumables, so to speak).
  8. raid14
    raid14 11 October 2014 18: 53
    +5
    It is certainly necessary to develop cooperation with the PRC, but acting with caution, modernizing and strengthening the PRC army is clearly not for an attack on the United States. China’s territorial claims to the Far East, Siberia, local conflicts over disputed sections of the borders (Damansky, Zhalanashkol), the Chinese do not forget anything and remember the grievances well. With Germany in the 30-40s, we were also good partners and friends, I hope everyone remembers how it ended. I would not want to step on the old rake again.
  9. marshes
    marshes 11 October 2014 19: 02
    +2
    And the Chinese, one might say they missed the moment.
    We wanted to rebuild a deep-sea port in Crimea so that oil from Kashagan and other fields of Kazakhstan could be exported to Europe as well as gas, liquefaction. Other goods that would go through Kazakhstan were cheap, using railway routes. Through the ports of Crimea. Silk way. Lost profit.
    So think about who he is to you ... China.
    1. alone
      alone 11 October 2014 19: 43
      +3
      Dear enemy)) which is still in ambush !!
      1. marshes
        marshes 11 October 2014 21: 08
        +1
        Well, no matter how we replay ourselves. smile
        True, the Türks created a lot of trouble for the TsIN empire. Although one can thank the demise of the Oirats.
  10. sv68
    sv68 11 October 2014 19: 44
    +2
    and let’s without emotions, soberly assess the realities of life — China is not our friend yet but not the enemy — I hope that already. China is just a country accumulating technologies and resources in its economy for its long-term development and now it’s beneficial for them to have Russia, at least in the allies. but as soon as they feel their self-sufficiency and strength, they immediately begin to recall old grievances and the region flames up. And for now, the dragon is filling its womb with other people's thoughts and the technique that it needs to be learned to copy.
    1. marshes
      marshes 11 October 2014 21: 09
      0
      Quote: sv68
      now it is beneficial for them to have Russia

      Funny.
  11. faterdom
    faterdom 11 October 2014 20: 58
    +4
    There are many responses from the times of the Soviet-Chinese enmity, which, however, did not develop into a hot phase (the events at Damanskoye cannot be compared in scale with the same ATO in southeastern Ukraine). Yes, Chinese weapons were shooting at us in Afghanistan. It was...
    But one should not evaluate the times of Empress TsySi, but the current realities: the Chinese prime minister is right! Our interests with China began to coincide in many ways, and, importantly, both states are interested in each other's well-being — they will devour them differently.
    Hence it follows - we must cooperate. It is to cooperate, and not to merge and sell everything (and sometimes give), as we striptease in front of "Western partners" from 85th to 2000th year. At the same time, developing relations with Vietnam, Iran, India, without making China the only irreplaceable friend, so as not to be arrogant.
    And the main thing is to finally build a normal society and state on our own, with a strong economy, a strong army and navy, and not "polite" citizens - and it would never occur to China, or else someone else would take our territory. Hokkaido will also ask for us as a result of the referendum.
    1. Drunya
      Drunya 11 October 2014 21: 14
      0
      Quote: faterdom
      As a result of a referendum, Hokkaido will ask us.

      those who want it will be typed - only if we ourselves couldn’t stay naked after such referenda.
      py.s.
      when they talk about friendship and cooperation with China, many think that "we will all lay down under them" - yes, we made concessions to our detriment and we will go more than once - the world is like this today, "friends" have to be bought.
  12. Drunya
    Drunya 11 October 2014 21: 01
    0
    I don’t remember where I rested but fun
    1. Ptah
      Ptah 12 October 2014 01: 20
      0
      The doll is lying about the "last time" ... She is still here "must be glasses".
      Or from that still drags her ...
      He is also lying about "I gavalu aphids and one - this is bad" ... In this state, to dissolve her "into the drychba of the peoples" - like two fingers on the asphalt ...
  13. Fast
    Fast 11 October 2014 21: 20
    +2
    Everything is simple here. China sees what the friendship with the vile West turns to on the example of Russia. If Russia falters, they will immediately take up China, they will begin to disarm, democracy will be added. We are going to make money with China, sniffing on the greens, to carry out giant projects on an equal basis, it is not logical for China to shout to Russia, they have no one to rely on. And when the west is bent, the Chinese will have enough space under the sun of warm countries, they would need cold Siberia in figs, they would have taken it to us. And under our restraint of forces they are calmer.
    1. marshes
      marshes 11 October 2014 21: 36
      +1
      Just, for the sake of interest, where are you from? Have you even done business with the Chinese?
      True to who the borderland lives, it’s not a little interesting, it will tell you.
      Christmas trees sticks, thought for half a year the number, id ... com at least decrease, no alas.
      China is a tiger, not a panda.
      Quote: Fast
      fig them cold Siberia

      Try to explain this to the Manchurians, and there are about 300 million of them, the empire of the TsIN and Manzhu Gou.
    2. Second
      Second 11 October 2014 22: 20
      +2
      Quote: Fast
      fig them cold Siberia

      Well, if, God forbid, they trample the Siberian resources, they can also master the slaves whom they will either conquer or drive from China. With cheap slaves they have no problems by definition. And no one says that the Chinese elite will live in Siberia. God forbid, it will be enough to manage it. Replaceable garrisons of the Chinas, cheap slave. power.
      PS By the way, you are aware that in case of war there are no plans to evacuate the population from Siberia and the Far East. At least 2 years ago was gone.
  14. Ustinych
    Ustinych 11 October 2014 22: 51
    -2
    Russia and China brothers forever
  15. PValery53
    PValery53 11 October 2014 23: 04
    +1
    Of course, recklessly, like a frivolous girl, one should not rush into the arms of China. And top military secrets for no gingerbread not give out. And in other sectors - mutually beneficial cooperation. Why not? Since the West has taken up arms against us, we are dying to dictate something there, we must pohder it and diversify our cooperation with the countries of Asia, and not only with China. To isolate Russia, the West has neither mind nor strength. And for its adventure (a conspiracy almost like in Munich with Hitler against the USSR) with sanctions, the West is already suffering great losses, not everyone took into account the navels.
  16. komel
    komel 11 October 2014 23: 10
    +1
    In my opinion, it is the Chinese Yuan that should become an alternative to the dollar. China, as a buyer of gas and oil, has the opportunity to buy not only gas in Russia, but also in other countries, particularly broad prospects in the calculations of Central Asia and Iran. Thus, it has the opportunity to offer and promote the yuan as a world currency, which will positively affect the demand for goods made in China and expand imports.

    For his part, Chairman of the Bank of China Chen Syjing expressed the view that Russia and China should strengthen cooperation in the field of foreign exchange transactions in order to eliminate the dollar monopoly.
    1. komel
      komel 11 October 2014 23: 46
      +1
      Buying energy for the Yuan, China will increase demand for the Yuan and can increase imports by increasing economic growth. Russia, in turn, can increase trade with China significantly.
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 11 October 2014 23: 58
        +1
        Quote: komel
        Russia, in turn, can increase trade with China significantly.

        My dear Krasnoyarsk hydroelectric power station, a lot of them "out of friendship", at one time surpassed electricity.
        1. komel
          komel 12 October 2014 00: 30
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          This is not a gratuitous gift from simple sympathy and friendship, it is about developing relations with China on pragmatic market conditions where money can give impetus to new development in the economy of both China and Russia. The use of the yuan can increase Russian goods and energy in the Chinese market, in turn, we will spend the yuan, including developing the Chinese economy. Now Russia is trying to reorient its strategy from the western direction to the eastern region, and I see such an opportunity without loss to be possible.

          Russia has the ability to sell energy to China and should do this together building new hydropower plants and nuclear power plants, both in Russia and China. For this, Russia has opportunities in construction, and China has money. Cheap electricity guarantees the competitiveness of goods, living standards and the creation of new jobs.
          1. marshes
            marshes 12 October 2014 00: 45
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            Quote: komel
            Russia has the ability to sell energy to China and should do this together building new hydropower plants and nuclear power plants, both in Russia and China. For this, Russia has opportunities in construction, and China has money. Cheap electricity guarantees the competitiveness of goods, living standards and the creation of new jobs.

            "Heavenly chief" you can see that you are planning to go ... you do not disappear. AMEN.
            And the citizens of China have nothing to do on this site, otherwise it is fraught with consequences. You will learn a lot about yourself. In the end, everything will come ....... laughing
  17. Fast
    Fast 11 October 2014 23: 45
    0
    A tiger is a tiger, but Russia has a strict leash, the arsenal is first-class and significant. The Chinese alone can not stand against the West and Japan, they will tear the tiger sharks instantly, at least so as not to repay debts. So they are doomed to be friends. And who will help them ?, they turned many against themselves with their ridiculous hegemony, thanks to VV, he undertook to unravel their mistakes. Who is right time will tell. And further. The yuan will not be the world currency, its gut is thin, and indeed there will be no world currency, and the struggle is going on. But the fundamental equivalent will be, they will find and make it.
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 12 October 2014 00: 04
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      Quote: Fast
      But the fundamental equivalent will be, they will find and make it.

      Pepper, incense, glass beads, furs, which is enough for fantasy, so to speak.
  18. Skuto
    Skuto 12 October 2014 00: 46
    +2
    Spit.
    It’s profitable to be friends with China for the time being ... it will be greatly elevated, we will start supporting another player. Russia has one ally - God.
    1. marshes
      marshes 12 October 2014 00: 57
      +1
      Quote: Skuto
      . Russia has one ally - God.

      Inshallah, ammin.
  19. Dreamwriter
    Dreamwriter 12 October 2014 01: 55
    +1
    They really got bored with shouts of "China will betray everyone, China wants to seize everything, panic-panic-panic !!! 1! Adyn! 1!" Guys, by God, you are now reminding the American Ikos and Europioids, shouting about the fact that aggressive Russia wants to take over all Europe, America and the Internet. China has nowhere to settle people? Nonsense: now in India the population already exceeds the Chinese. And China is larger in territory than India (moreover, in India, most of the area is occupied by the jungle, which makes it difficult to settle). Does China Need Resources? It is much easier and more profitable for him to buy them than to start major wars (and this already requires a large number of resources), then, if successful, rebuild the infrastructure, transport a bunch of people to work with this infrastructure, fight the partisan movement, rebuild his economy after the war and still not be destroyed by the United States while China is weak. Stop thinking in stereotypes about "wanting to take over" China.
    1. Alekc1000
      Alekc1000 12 October 2014 15: 16
      +1
      I completely agree..!!!!!!
  20. viktor52
    viktor52 12 October 2014 17: 44
    +4
    All normal people should understand that Russia is a BIG HUGE country and everyone wants to bite to snatch and if we can’t protect these pieces, our country will disappear, everyone should understand who taught HISTORY EUROPE our enemy and never in the historical period EUROPE helped us only killed our state LOVE RUSSIA and know we will win