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Ukrainian media: more than 3 thousand soldiers died near Ilovaisk. The prosecutor accused in the tragedy of the battalion "Carpathian"

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The chairman of the commission of inquiry of the Verkhovna Rada, formed to find out the reasons for the tragedy near Ilovaisk, Andriy Senchenko, said that in a month (from July 23 to August 23) the “group D” of the Armed forces of Ukraine, which took part in the operation in Ilovaysk, lost 3,4 thousands of fighters. " It is reported by Ukrainian news broker Today.

Ukrainian media: more than 3 thousand soldiers died near Ilovaisk. The prosecutor accused in the tragedy of the battalion "Carpathian"


"According to our data, as of 23 July, there were 4000 fighters in sector" D ", on the morning of August 23 remained 600"- said the head of the commission.

The chief military prosecutor of Ukraine, Anatoly Matios, accused the “Carpathian” battalion in this tragedy.

"They committed a crime because they became the root cause of the mass effect of dominoes in the area of ​​Ilovaisk"- quotes the words of the prosecutor Of Korrespondent.net.

Before the events in Ilovay, the battalion held positions near Amvrosiyivka.

«Served, served and did what they did - left the place of service, laid out the flank and drove across Ukraine with a full-time weapons on school busesSaid Matios.

According to the military prosecutor, the battalion did not execute the order three times: “After the first shelling, to which the battalion was not ready, because the soldiers hoped that they would not be shot at from 40 km from Russia, they simply withdrew and left. After that, they twice ignored the order to return, hand over their weapons and go home centrally. ”

“Maybe I’m talking too emotionally. But local authorities of Ivano-Frankivsk region make heroes of them. I do not want to say that there are all deserters, there is always a guide and there are always those who follow the guide. ”- said the prosecutor.

According to Matios, the military commissar, who neglected the formation of the battalion, was largely to blame.

Earlier, President Poroshenko said that information about a large number of those killed near Ilovaisk "is unreliable." According to official figures, 108 fighters died there at the end of August.

The “Segodnya” edition reminds that “at the end of August near Ilovaysk, units of the Donbass, Dnepr, Svityaz, Kherson, and Peacemaker battalions were surrounded by the NFP.”
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  1. Rimsler2014
    Rimsler2014 9 October 2014 19: 46
    +42
    blah blah blah blah, but this operation was already failed before it began, and now they are looking for the guilty.
    1. Момент
      Момент 9 October 2014 19: 48
      +68
      According to the military prosecutor, the battalion failed to comply with the order three times:

      They were ordered to die, but they did not want to die.
      1. BYV
        BYV 9 October 2014 19: 54
        +72
        Where did the dead come from? The militia has nothing to do with ... They themselves killed each other ... lol
        1. kryuger.mark
          kryuger.mark 9 October 2014 20: 01
          -24
          It was Putin who killed them.
          1. smile
            smile 9 October 2014 20: 18
            +59
            kryuger.mark
            Sure. And who else? After all, the drunken drug offspring — quilted jackets and colorads, which, according to the Svidomites, live in the Southeast, could not defeat the great independents. By the way, they also defeated the hordes of the Dark Lord. Already several times. Despite the nuclear war unleashed by Russia-Mordor. If you want details, ask Geletey. He will tell you the whole truth, and he won’t even take any money. :)))
            True, having destroyed a billion Pskov paratroopers, Ukrainian soldiers are a little tired ... hence the temporary setbacks. But nothing, the time will come, and the Poroshenko light army will reach the geysers of Kamchatka, spreading democracy and tolerance .... this was told to Poroshenko by its charm. :))))
            1. Tersky
              Tersky 9 October 2014 22: 31
              +38
              Quote: smile
              this Poroshenko told his charm. :))))

              Is this the beauty
              so IT like BarDakovskoe tenderness ... laughing.. Although what you can not give up for the sake of real "friendship", wink
              1. Camouflet
                Camouflet 10 October 2014 03: 39
                +15
                Damn, well, you can’t scare people like that before going to bed. And if, God forbid, dream at night?
              2. Rostislav
                Rostislav 11 October 2014 12: 16
                +2
                No, do not drink so much !!!
              3. Stoler
                Stoler 12 October 2014 01: 15
                0
                Krasava! 100 points!
            2. 33 Watcher
              33 Watcher 10 October 2014 03: 47
              +2
              Yeah, Geletey will tell, sniff a couple of tracks, and tell :-) :-)
            3. aleks700
              aleks700 10 October 2014 05: 18
              +4
              After all, the drunken drug offspring — quilted jackets and colorads, which, according to the Svidomites, live in the Southeast, could not defeat the great independents. By the way, they also defeated the hordes of the Dark Lord. Already several times. Despite the nuclear war unleashed by Russia-Mordor.

              So they and Darth Vader win!
              1. shuhartred
                shuhartred 10 October 2014 09: 17
                +1
                Quote: aleks700
                So they and Darth Vader win!

                It is necessary for Lucas to throw an idea for the eighth part. Although, damn it will not work. Darth Vader was killed in the sixth. On the other hand, everything is possible in the cinema.
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          3. mihasik
            mihasik 10 October 2014 00: 13
            +4
            Quote: kryuger.mark
            It was Putin who killed them.

            Moreover, PERSONALLY!))
            1. Starik72
              Starik72 12 October 2014 00: 52
              0
              Yeah, exactly from a slingshot and with chewed pieces of paper, remember how at school we shot at breaks from wire slingshots, chewing a piece of paper or a blotter and rolling it into a lump.
          4. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 10 October 2014 03: 40
            +1
            He went down by parachute, strangled everyone in a dream, and, as if nothing had happened, fled to the Kremlin, and under a blanket, as if nothing had happened :-)
            1. An60
              An60 12 October 2014 15: 43
              +1
              He parachuted, strangled and flew away soldier the same parachute.
          5. xoma58
            xoma58 12 October 2014 08: 54
            0
            Exactly, and personally.
          6. captain
            captain 12 October 2014 15: 58
            0
            It’s tight with humor, although judging by the comments the bulk are not military.
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        2. Iline
          Iline 9 October 2014 20: 06
          +20
          Here it is - for 40 kilometers they fired from Russia. And I thought that the command of dill escaped en masse from the madhouse.
        3. Fedor
          Fedor 9 October 2014 21: 38
          +13
          They were killed by self-blowing air conditioners.
          1. jktu66
            jktu66 9 October 2014 22: 58
            +1
            They were killed by self-blowing air conditioners.
            Well, not everyone, some with matches indulged, or smoked in bed, burned smoking rooms. 3400- how such losses were recognized in the media by usrains ????
        4. SSR
          SSR 9 October 2014 22: 33
          +19
          Quote: BYV
          Where did the dead come from? The militia has nothing to do with ... They themselves killed each other ... lol

          My minus. Your smile is out of place.
          Here we sit here sofas and not sofas and all sorts of people, and somehow we forget that when we ourselves served upon an appeal, what we were. They gave the command and went and didn’t think of anything, to agree to the order to disagree .... And now these guys, who really didn’t see their lives, who died and who are disabled without limbs, and all the commanders and chief commanders and their military commissars deserters or without compensation, in general, they simply throw as they threw the whole country and all the galloping and not galloping people, our kindred people, with the exception of a small number of fainting that usurped power. You can talk a lot and breed, smear snot, but I really feel sorry for the people of the Ukraine, honestly comrades, even when the wife who lost her husband curses Russia, I feel sorry for them, I feel sorry for their children who lost their father early, I'm sorry that these idiots went to kill other civilians people who were already brothers and that’s why the army of New Russia is humane to those who were captured because they are not zombied and their souls and thoughts are pure, unlike banderlozhki whose even priests call for massacre. Oh damn.
          1. jktu66
            jktu66 9 October 2014 23: 09
            +27
            I am sorry that these idiots went to kill other peaceful people,
            My minus. Killed children and women of New Russia, tortured and shot people, mutilated captive militias are sorry to tears. But these idiots who lived and died by idiots are not sorry. although there are no joys from the death of these either.
            1. SSR
              SSR 9 October 2014 23: 44
              +3
              Quote: jktu66
              I am sorry that these idiots went to kill other peaceful people,
              My minus. Killed children and women of New Russia, tortured and shot people, mutilated captive militias are sorry to tears. But these idiots who lived and died by idiots are not sorry. although there are no joys from the death of these either.

              I deserve, as they say on the road, think for fools. I didn’t think so.
              I am sorry that these boobs went to kill other civilians, their former brothers

              It's just that I’m used to the fact that I don’t sing praises on the proto-site website and did not consider it important to make footnotes on my wishes to remove the junta and crumble into dill. If you do not have enough intelligence or you are not catching up with the thought that for me the death of other people who are not military, and ordinary children whose fathers, by the stupidity of their own authorities, became disabled or died. In general, it is necessary to deny or argue about the obvious a lot of mind, I do not have it and I do not argue and I am not going to prove the obvious or discuss because this is a property of people of a different order. All the best.
              1. shuhartred
                shuhartred 10 October 2014 09: 26
                +3
                Quote: SSR
                If you do not have enough intelligence or you are not catching up with the thought that for me the death of other people who are not military, and ordinary children whose fathers, by the stupidity of their own authorities, became disabled or died.

                I understand you. But answer one question. Do you also feel sorry for the German military, who died from 9 to 11 million (according to various estimates) during the Second World War? But there were Hitler Youth, Volkssturm, and elite SS divisions. For me, the answer is one. THEY were the first to start. Well, as they say "woe to the vanquished" (I don't remember who said the first one)
                1. Shur
                  Shur 12 October 2014 16: 53
                  0
                  The truth is that by killing "on command" or not, one becomes a murderer. To pity their loved ones, and they themselves are understandable, but the choice was made. There are no involuntary killers. And not all of them are idiots, many gladly went there "to defend their homeland." Ignorance does not cancel out guilt. It was a pity when they became "Ukrainians". Now that's all, they have become.
          2. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 10 October 2014 04: 01
            +5
            Do not spare them! It is their government, their command, and they deserve it. And the corpses of fools have personally not touched me for a long time. This is justice, but harsh, but justice. Regarding the sofa: I paid my calm life in due time! The tragedy of these guys in the complete absence of brains, their own actions led them to the grave.
        5. Sharikov
          Sharikov 12 October 2014 18: 36
          0
          I do not consider Ukrainian soldiers to be punitive (except for the "National Guard"). And when someone on the video starts to shame the prisoner and say that he is waging an unrighteous war, I get annoyed. Any normal soldier wages a war for his life and nothing more. And propaganda is needed to explain to the people that this soldier is fighting for "great goals." Volunteers who are eager to go to war, after the very first battle, part with their illusions and most of all want to go home to their mother. A soldier does not voluntarily go into battle. The soldier doesn't want to fight. The percentage of fanatics is very small. Therefore, I am against the civil war in Ukraine. Therefore, I do not condemn anyone who is on the battlefield, except for scumbags. Therefore, I sympathize with the fighters on both sides.
      2. Uhalus
        Uhalus 9 October 2014 20: 14
        +23
        So they were called "Prykarpattya" ... It's not women to rape and shoot old people. As they pressed them, they immediately felled. Coward. Like all punishers since the UPA and even earlier.
        1. poquello
          poquello 9 October 2014 20: 28
          +1
          Quote: Uhalus
          So they were called "Prykarpattya" ... It's not women to rape and shoot old people. As they pressed them, they immediately felled. Coward. Like all punishers since the UPA and even earlier.

          or maybe not cowardly, for whom should they tear a vest?
          1. ty60
            ty60 9 October 2014 21: 05
            +7
            here I completely agree. We worked in Russia for rubles in shifts. In the winter, when the law-enforcers returned, they robbed. Conclusion?
          2. Rider
            Rider 9 October 2014 21: 15
            +3
            Quote: poquello
            for whom should they tear a vest?

            then what did they forget if they had no one to fight for?
            1. poquello
              poquello 9 October 2014 21: 58
              +2
              Quote: Rider
              Quote: poquello
              for whom should they tear a vest?

              then what did they forget if they had no one to fight for?

              not everyone succeeds in giving up on their foreheads, they didn’t seek in the ATO
              1. Rider
                Rider 9 October 2014 22: 17
                +3
                Quote: poquello
                not everyone can refuse to forehead,

                or maybe just "the descendants and successors of the glorious lytsar traditions of the Ukrainian Wiisk" turned out to be weak at the knees and sdrisnul at the first opportunity
                and if the militia were weaker, would they continue to tyrannize and mock the peaceful people?
                Quote: poquello
                they in anti-terrorist operation did not aspire

                Did they tell you this, or did you think of them for them?

                although you may be right, there are not many "volunteers" in a broken army
                1. poquello
                  poquello 9 October 2014 23: 28
                  +1
                  Quote: Rider
                  Quote: poquello
                  not everyone can refuse to forehead,

                  or maybe just "the descendants and successors of the glorious lytsar traditions of the Ukrainian Wiisk" turned out to be weak at the knees and sdrisnul at the first opportunity
                  and if the militia were weaker, would they continue to tyrannize and mock the peaceful people?
                  Quote: poquello
                  they in anti-terrorist operation did not aspire

                  Did they tell you this, or did you think of them for them?

                  although you may be right, there are not many "volunteers" in a broken army

                  maybe they’ve gotten a cut, I won’t say about tyranny of a Mirnyak because I didn’t find a resource (by the way it’s a pity) where to see the cheryost of specific divisions of a Mirnyak, and so the following points -
                  in the ATO for 2 months, they tried not to let their mothers in, they vomited to the place of permanent deployment (home) when the mothers protested, demanded that they be returned from the ATO, the local civilians in the ATO seemed to help leave, there was no supply at all when it was over, there were a lot of motivation options
                  1. Rider
                    Rider 9 October 2014 23: 54
                    +6
                    Quote: poquello
                    maybe they cut it off,

                    so it does not "can", namely they drew
                    I saw their "interview" ukroSMI
                    there they were crying to journalists that they were not "drystuns" but they simply did not have them (I list them in order)
                    body armor
                    Armored personnel carriers
                    tanks
                    guns
                    aircraft
                    helicopters
                    Nuclear weapons
                    blasters
                    jedi swords
                    Death stars

                    and vaapche they have grenades of the wrong system
                    but would be - that, so uhhh, keep separators / land reclamation and Russian zavayuvateli
                    Usih would have won

                    for some reason, about the fact that the war didn’t rest against them - not a word
                    although the machines then were still with them

                    and I’m tired of this topic
                    if you want to consider them unmotivated and violent - your right

                    I do not care.
                    1. Dezinto
                      Dezinto 9 October 2014 23: 57
                      +4
                      They lacked:

                      blasters
                      jedi swords
                      Death stars good

                      Let the debate be chosen between them and Yarosh soon ... laughing
                  2. Shur
                    Shur 12 October 2014 16: 59
                    0
                    Those. those videos where civilians talk about the beating, rape, torture and murder of peaceful, undercover people, you don’t trust? Massively lie mean?
          3. Rostov
            Rostov 9 October 2014 22: 41
            +4
            Quote: poquello
            or maybe not cowardly, for whom should they tear a vest?


            and what to tear it?
            1. maxxdesign
              maxxdesign 9 October 2014 23: 07
              +8
              jumped around, got on the road ... now in the streets of the cities walk thumping bandits with weapons and do whatever they want, hiding behind the ATO
            2. xoma58
              xoma58 12 October 2014 09: 04
              0
              You will not say anything to the hero. These creatures must die.
            3. Shur
              Shur 12 October 2014 17: 11
              0
              Drunken gangster. I hope he has already been cured.
          4. aleks 62
            aleks 62 10 October 2014 09: 22
            +2
            ..... And we will ask the vests to build !!!!! Purely Russian invention !!!!! It is not good for any "puppies" to trash ours !!!!
          5. Shur
            Shur 12 October 2014 16: 56
            0
            But what about their independent homeland?
        2. onizhe
          onizhe 9 October 2014 22: 35
          +2
          Or maybe there are sensible people in the Carpathian region? Not everyone is from the UPA. Why defend what is already dead?
        3. Camouflet
          Camouflet 10 October 2014 03: 55
          +6
          Quote: Uhalus
          Uhalus (1) RU Yesterday, 20:14 ↑

          So they were called "Prykarpattya" ... It's not women to rape and shoot old people. As they pressed them, they immediately felled. Coward. Like all punishers since the UPA and even earlier.




          They were told that they would make money in Donbass in an easy way, bring good things and get rich. And they will be given land and seized at the place of the apartment. The status of the participants in the hostilities, etc. Well, and most importantly, each has a bag of cookies and a jar of jam. After which they will have a happy, carefree life, "there will be money, a house in Chicago, many women and cars." Etc. Fools! They believe in all this.

          But where were their mothers and fathers? And there! They also wanted to profit at someone else's expense. They began to be indignant only when the coffins went for the parcels and transport. Well, and many of these "guards" do not know where.
      3. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 9 October 2014 20: 34
        +7
        They did not want to die for Bender.
      4. Art
        Art 10 October 2014 03: 49
        +6
        Against the background of what is happening in Ukraine, it’s interesting to recall what the founder of the sect, to which B. Lazar belongs, said:

        “The Ukrainian will think that he is fighting against the expansion of Russia, is fighting for his independence, he will think that he has finally gained his freedom, while he is completely dependent on us.

        The Russians will consider the same thing, as if they are defending their national interests, returning the lands “illegally” taken from them, and so on. We will do all this under the pretext of various sovereignty, the struggle for our national ideals. At that time, we will not allow either side to self-determination on the basis of national values ​​and traditions.

        In this war of fools, the Slavic will weaken itself and strengthen us, the main conductors of the troubles, supposedly standing aside and not only not participating in the bloody events, but also not interfering in them. Moreover, we will completely protect ourselves. In the consciousness of Slavic profane, we will put such stereotypes of thinking in which the most terrible word will be "anti-Semite." The word "Jew" will be pronounced in a whisper. "

        This speech, delivered by the “Lubavitcher Rebbe” Menachem Mendel Schneerson in 1994, was published in the Vologda newspaper “Slav”, N-4 (32), 2001. After publication, the court was unable to “sew” to its editor V.F. Popov 282 article, because he operated on facts, and Russian scientists Academician Yu.K. stood up for him Begunov and Doctor of Law O.G. Korotaev.

        source: http://m-athanasios.livejournal.com/359077.html
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 9 October 2014 19: 48
      +4
      Russian proverb: they don’t wave their fists after a fight.
      1. NVVPOU
        NVVPOU 9 October 2014 19: 58
        +7
        Ukrainian proverb: hopak dance before the fight, and after the fight they are to blame for everything.
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 9 October 2014 20: 00
        +6
        Quote: Thought Giant
        they don’t wave their fists after the fight.

        But feathers creak on paper. yes
        After such losses, by any standards, to Ukrainian prosecutors and investigators, the work will be more than one month. Although the presence of justice in Ukraine has not been noticed recently, it will not be possible to hide any facts from the public.
        1. Tersky
          Tersky 9 October 2014 22: 39
          +5
          Quote: retired
          After such high losses by any standards, Ukrainian prosecutors and investigators will have more than one month of work.

          Yura, what prosecutors and investigators? There Avakov all in one ... hi
          1. pensioner
            pensioner 9 October 2014 22: 53
            +2
            Yes there are prosecutors, there are yes . Here, recently, they wanted to put one trash can on the right lol . Failed... request Running fast ...
            Good night Victor! hi Do you watch football? I put on our ... recourse
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 9 October 2014 22: 59
              +3
              Quote: retired
              Watch football

              Hello everyone again drinks I completely forgot request
            2. studentmati
              studentmati 9 October 2014 22: 59
              +1
              Quote: retired
              Do you watch football? I put on our ... recourse


              What channel? Yura, good night buddy! drinks
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 06
                +3
                [/ Quote]
                What channel? Yura, good night buddy! drinks[/ Quote]
                Hello Sasha! I have 3 button ...
                smile Hi Ruslan! fellow Hi Victor again! drinks
                Akinfeev - good
                Well, Kokorin is a hammer.
                I understand that you can open a beer ... what Whisker I already ... request
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 9 October 2014 23: 11
                  +2
                  Quote: retired
                  Viskar I already ... request


                  I am according to Pokhlebkin, Yur! drinks
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 13
                    +2
                    Quote: studentmati
                    I'm according to Pokhlebkin

                    Right. yes It's time to jump off the products of a potential adversary am . Well, like Khortytsya there ... Ruslan was hiding. Does Bragu hatch?
                    1. studentmati
                      studentmati 9 October 2014 23: 16
                      +3
                      Quote: retired
                      . Ruslan cheto hid. Does Bragu wait?


                      Is preparing a response to sanctions similar?
                      1. pensioner
                        pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 18
                        +2
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Is preparing a response to sanctions similar?

                        what
                        THIS is now called that means ...
                      2. Tersky
                        Tersky 9 October 2014 23: 39
                        +2
                        Quote: retired
                        THIS is now called that means ...

                        Let's hit moonshine according to Hennessy ... yes
                    2. Ruslan67
                      Ruslan67 9 October 2014 23: 18
                      +3
                      Quote: retired
                      Does Bragu hatch?

                      Quote: retired
                      Is preparing a response to sanctions similar?

                      Sobriety day request His mother am Tomorrow affairs to the waist
                      1. studentmati
                        studentmati 9 October 2014 23: 21
                        +2
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Tomorrow affairs to the waist


                        Accept condolences to Ruslan! sad
                      2. pensioner
                        pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 22
                        +2
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Sobriety Day His mother

                        Well, nothing ... We will avenge you. yes
                        And I like the way our play. In defense, it’s true a mess ... But this is a familiar thing. Dziuba is handsome!
                      3. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 9 October 2014 23: 26
                        +2
                        Quote: retired
                        Well, nothing ... We will avenge you

                        It would be better for the Avenger Divan angry wassat
                      4. pensioner
                        pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        It would be better for the Avenger Divan

                        Well, firstly, not so sofa yes , and secondly send me on business - business to a fig ... laughing
                      5. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 9 October 2014 23: 32
                        +2
                        Quote: retired
                        Well, firstly, not so sofa

                        Is Krovatny really belay laughing
                      6. pensioner
                        pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 33
                        0
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Is Krovatny really

                        Sexual. yes
                        Well, or carpet? what
                      7. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 10 October 2014 00: 13
                        +2
                        Quote: retired
                        Well, or carpet?

                        Bedside repeat
                      8. pensioner
                        pensioner 10 October 2014 00: 21
                        0
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Bedside

                        Nightstand. yes
                      9. studentmati
                        studentmati 9 October 2014 23: 30
                        +1
                        Quote: retired
                        Well, nothing ... We will avenge you. yes


                        Revenge will know no bounds! lol drinks
                      10. pensioner
                        pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 32
                        +2
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Revenge will know no bounds
                        what
                        Still offering to get drunk?
                      11. studentmati
                        studentmati 9 October 2014 23: 33
                        +1
                        Quote: retired
                        what
                        Still offering to get drunk?


                        What to do, Yur?
                      12. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 9 October 2014 23: 33
                        +3
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Revenge will know no bounds!

                        ..within a reasonable recourse
                      13. studentmati
                        studentmati 9 October 2014 23: 35
                        +1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        .. within a reasonable recourse


                        By itself! We catch ban of Vadim!
                      14. pensioner
                        pensioner 10 October 2014 00: 10
                        +1
                        Quote: studentmati
                        We catch ban of Vadim!

                        And Vadim has not yet banned me ... request Still to come? belay
                      15. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 10 October 2014 00: 16
                        +2
                        Quote: retired
                        And Vadim has not yet banned me ...

                        Youngster request You haven’t seen life on this site yet. wassat You feel yourself not only sex and carpet but also a used folding bed lol
                      16. pensioner
                        pensioner 10 October 2014 00: 31
                        +2
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        but also used clamshell

                        belay
                        Is it very unpleasant? sad Share your experience! hi
                      17. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 10 October 2014 00: 36
                        +1
                        Quote: retired
                        Share your experience!

                        Yes please hi In the morning you go to the computer to find out the news and there you have a warning for flood belay But it’s soft. And you can-you try to go to the site and from there with a soft chpokom around the neck repeat The one that would not sweat and ban for how much luck request
                      18. pensioner
                        pensioner 10 October 2014 00: 40
                        +1
                        Yes, I would be after such a am Those. would thank yes and went to work on himself ... recourse
                      19. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 10 October 2014 00: 43
                        +2
                        Quote: retired
                        Yes, I would be after such a- am Ie would have thanked yes and went to work on himself ... recourse

                        Yurochka! Until the morning not long left recourse You can start making a self-study plan laughing
                      20. pensioner
                        pensioner 10 October 2014 00: 57
                        +1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        You can start making a self-study plan

                        Those. You suggest recalling everything that I heard from the EVACU officers and teachers at the cadets for the 6 years that I worked there, what’s it? what You can, of course, still add the Warrant Officer School yes , but this is a strategic reserve of the Russian language. I will save ....
                      21. pensioner
                        pensioner 10 October 2014 01: 21
                        0
                        Okay. Good night Ruslan! Good dreams and successful business tomorrow!
                      22. pensioner
                        pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 38
                        +1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        ..within a reasonable

                        Somehow it doesn’t work ... crying
                      23. studentmati
                        studentmati 9 October 2014 23: 44
                        +1
                        Quote: retired
                        Somehow it doesn’t work ... crying


                        Well a liter, well, two? why get drunk?
                      24. pensioner
                        pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 48
                        +2
                        Quote: studentmati
                        Well a liter, well, two? why get drunk?

                        As our general said in EVAKU: "Well, why bother so much? I drank 700 grams and that's enough!"
                      25. studentmati
                        studentmati 9 October 2014 23: 52
                        +1
                        Quote: retired
                        As our general said in EVAKU: "Well, why bother so much? I drank 700 grams and that's enough!"


                        Expert measure! And ours, damn it profuca ... crying
                2. Tersky
                  Tersky 9 October 2014 23: 20
                  +2
                  Quote: retired
                  Whisker I already ...

                  Pull yourself up, I just opened a new one drinks
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 24
                    +1
                    Quote: Tersky
                    Pull yourself up, I just opened a new one

                    Pour it in! yes And then I'll leave ...repeat
                    1. Tersky
                      Tersky 9 October 2014 23: 41
                      +2
                      Quote: retired
                      Pour it in! I’ll leave.

                      Yes, no problem, substitute laughing ! And in pursuit of a free kick .. wassat
                      1. pensioner
                        pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 47
                        +1
                        Quote: Tersky
                        And in pursuit of a free kick ..

                        Penalty for something ??? belay Well, I'm purely in the ball! smile
                      2. Tersky
                        Tersky 9 October 2014 23: 58
                        +2
                        The ball is not in the ball but you have to drink .. yes
                      3. pensioner
                        pensioner 10 October 2014 00: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Tersky
                        The ball is not in the ball but you have to drink ..

                        our school yes ...
            3. Tersky
              Tersky 9 October 2014 23: 00
              +3
              Quote: retired
              I put on our ...

              And you are kind! Well, who else to bet on but not on their own ... We look and cheer .. Already 1-0 in ours !!!drinks
              1. pensioner
                pensioner 9 October 2014 23: 54
                +1
                Hmmm ... 1-1. Kindergarten on the defensive ... I declare all responsibility. yes I once performed a defender. Oh, and the attackers got it from me ... Especially for those who are taller than me. am And since my height is 165 ... repeat
                1. studentmati
                  studentmati 10 October 2014 00: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: retired
                  ... Kindergarten on the defensive ...repeat


                  Get it, Yur, from the kirzachi shelf, knead it, wipe it. It seems to be useful soon .....
                  1. pensioner
                    pensioner 10 October 2014 00: 08
                    0
                    Quote: studentmati
                    kirzachi

                    Kirzachi. Right now! Hungarian Adidas !! yes At one time, the worst defect! There were still Kiev boots (also lying around somewhere), but compared to Adidas, they were really kirzachi negative ...
                  2. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 10 October 2014 00: 12
                    +2
                    Quote: studentmati
                    Get it, Yur, from the kirzachi shelf, knead it, wipe it.

                    In the attackers to throw? wassat
                    1. pensioner
                      pensioner 10 October 2014 00: 19
                      0
                      Quote: Ruslan67
                      throw

                      Why request ? Shin massage yes . Can lower back. There are such pimples on the bottom of the boot repeat - just like on massagers yes ... luminous good ...
                      1. Ruslan67
                        Ruslan67 10 October 2014 00: 22
                        +2
                        Quote: retired
                        Why

                        Who will let you out on the field? Throw from the rostrum or to the TV laughing
                      2. pensioner
                        pensioner 10 October 2014 00: 25
                        +1
                        Quote: Ruslan67
                        Who will let you out on the field? Throw from the rostrum or to the TV

                        Ah .... I forget everything fool that I'm no longer in the lineup recourse ...
    3. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 9 October 2014 19: 58
      +17
      that in a month (from July 23 to August 23) "the grouping of sector" D "of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which took part in the operation in Ilovaisk, lost 3,4 thousand soldiers"

      Well, you can multiply by 2 calmly .. But that's what the attack aircraft were coming out on July 17th near the Boeing. They just filled up right before they began to chop the dill into pots .. It was the junta who shot down (at the behest of the State Department)! Well, everyone has long been clear about this ..! that's uro d s Agree guys! Everything is supposedly hushed up, but okay, everything is muddy .. No, no, gentlemen, Russia will achieve the truth! am
      1. forest park 86
        forest park 86 9 October 2014 20: 29
        +4
        Yes, everyone forgot about Boeing.
        1. mad
          mad 9 October 2014 20: 47
          +6
          Quote: 86 Forest Park
          Yes, everyone forgot about Boeing.

          rather forgiven ... they are children (s)
        2. fridge
          fridge 9 October 2014 21: 25
          +8
          According to inform. agencies, in order to compensate for the Malaysian Boeing intentionally shot down by Ukrainian air defense, the Ukrainian government proposed that Malaysia and the Netherlands bring down one Ukrainian passenger plane of their choice. belay wassat
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    4. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 9 October 2014 19: 58
      +2
      that in a month (from July 23 to August 23) "the grouping of sector" D "of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which took part in the operation in Ilovaisk, lost 3,4 thousand soldiers"

      Well, you can multiply by 2 calmly .. But that's what the attack aircraft were coming out on July 17th near the Boeing. They just filled up right before they began to chop the dill into pots .. It was the junta who shot down (at the behest of the State Department)! Well, everyone has long been clear about this ..! that's uro d s Agree guys! Everything is supposedly hushed up, but okay, everything is muddy .. No, no, gentlemen, Russia will achieve the truth! am
      1. enot73
        enot73 9 October 2014 20: 15
        +4
        According to Matios, the military commissar, who neglected the formation of the battalion, was largely to blame.
        Directly half the country is guilty, but not only its leadership and not the main army commanders. laughing
        1. SSR
          SSR 9 October 2014 23: 49
          0
          Quote: enot73
          According to Matios, the military commissar, who neglected the formation of the battalion, was largely to blame.
          Directly half the country is guilty, but not only its leadership and not the main army commanders. laughing

          Raccoon, I sympathize with you if you live on pictures of the so-called demotivators, it’s very easy to attach a comb to your photo and sign an eagle that does not bite flies and pass it off as an axiom. Do not peck a tree.
    5. forest park 86
      forest park 86 9 October 2014 20: 28
      +6
      Yeah, they shot from Russia. Russia is to blame for everything, but the guys just do not want to die for anything.
    6. Denis fj
      Denis fj 9 October 2014 20: 48
      +5
      Summary of the total losses of Ukraine in a punitive operation in the South-East of the country and adjacent regions (data from opersvodki and foreign sources):
      http://www.fssb.su/press-center/press-center-info/947-v-nuland-zam-gossekretarya
      -gosdepartamenta-ssha-dala-licenziyu-na-ubiystva-ukraincev-o.html

      KILLED
      About 20 military personnel, incl. members of the military and paramilitary units of the Ukrainian security forces.
      of them - about 3 militants of the "Right Sector", mainly included in the National Guard, as well as 178 mercenaries from the special battalions of the oligarch Igor Kolomoisky "Dnepr" and "Azov", "AIDAR", according to operational data, the corpses were taken to Dnepropetrovsk and destroyed in a local crematorium, or buried at the place of execution and are listed as missing.
      - about 11 170 troops of the Ukrainian army (mainly from 25 airborne Dnepropetrovsk brigade and 95 airborne Zhytomyr brigade, 24th motorized brigade from Lviv region, 79 airborne brigade, 51 mechanized brigade from YaNUM XNUM, XNUM mechanized brigades from the Bila Tserkva, the Kremenchug brigade GUR MO and other units of the Ukrainian army, mainly from places of deployment from Western Ukraine),
      - about 4 employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, from among the so-called. "national guard",
      - about 376 employees of the SBU of Ukraine,
      State Border Service of Ukraine - 233 people
      -83 employees of the CIA, FBI, special forces of the US RUMO,
      - foreign mercenaries:
      - 610 people from the Polish PMC "ASBS Othago", American PMCs Asademi and her "daughters" Greystone Limited PMCs, from Canada, Germany, Great Britain, Lithuania, Estonia, Italy, Sweden, Turkey, the Czech Republic, Finland, African and Arab, etc. . countries.
      - other categories of armed formations of Ukraine - 1779 people.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 9 October 2014 23: 29
        -4
        Interestingly, how much do you estimate the losses of militias during the same period?
        1. MaxikyM
          MaxikyM 10 October 2014 01: 17
          0
          Do you (young) mean with weapons or not?
    7. ty60
      ty60 9 October 2014 21: 00
      +4
      Transcarpathians actively worked in Russia. They know the difference with the Poles. Galicia and Volyn paid by Kalomoisky and others like them. They will soon begin to share among themselves after the election. They will devour a benny or eat Benya’s devour
    8. lelikas
      lelikas 9 October 2014 21: 26
      +1
      Quote: Rimsler2014
      blah blah blah blah, but this operation was already failed before it began, and now they are looking for the guilty.

      And under the guise they adopted a law on lustration, Heroes - sala - will become an official army greeting, and not a comrade but a Pan officer will appeal to the army. So it goes .
    9. Korvin1000
      Korvin1000 9 October 2014 21: 59
      0
      Maybe they started a truce in vain, so would you look to the Dnieper?
      Although no, Novorossia had little strength + boilers
    10. papas-57
      papas-57 9 October 2014 22: 12
      +2
      `` because the fighters hoped that they would not be fired at from Russia for 40 km. '' And what is so shallow, only 40 km. It was necessary to write that all the artillery of Russia fired, from Kaliningrad to the Far East. And only then did the Prykarpattya battalion run away.
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    12. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 9 October 2014 22: 30
      0
      Worked, fuck ... ty. Our brew .. ha. Hi powder .... to. Do not leave.
    13. Viktor Kudinov
      Viktor Kudinov 10 October 2014 01: 44
      0
      Blame those who sent them to die.
    14. Viktor Kudinov
      Viktor Kudinov 10 October 2014 01: 44
      +1
      Blame those who sent them to die.
  2. aleks_29296
    aleks_29296 9 October 2014 19: 49
    +3
    Found scapegoats.
  3. typhoon7
    typhoon7 9 October 2014 19: 49
    +20
    Ilovaisk they now have a household name, Motorola and Givi did a good job.
    1. Anton Gavrilov
      Anton Gavrilov 9 October 2014 20: 10
      +8
      From the heart of dill mowed! Now the 2-m Ilovaisk became Donetsk airport!
      1. SSR
        SSR 9 October 2014 23: 58
        -1
        Quote: Anton Gavrilov
        From the heart of dill mowed! Now the 2-m Ilovaisk became Donetsk airport!

        Another eagle which .... Forum clappers, do you even know how many of our fighters, militias for this airport have laid down their heads? Or do you think that they went for a walk? ** there are sofa warriors. Quack quack! Who is louder? Krrryaya !!! And you Urya quack in the know that how many fathers were killed there? And not only from Ukraine but also from Russia, whose - think about it! Children will grow up without their Fathers of Heroes. For one simple reason that someone else’s uncle pushed his siblings with their foreheads and those who rejoice at the deaths of their lost brothers are no better than the banderlog of the maydanut. You can start jumping.
        Oh yes
        PS
        For me, all children are the same, all women are the same, all old people are the same. I am not a fascist for whom they are all different.
  4. horoh
    horoh 9 October 2014 19: 50
    +7
    Ha, but as they wanted, if they were going to destroy the entire population of New Russia !!!
  5. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 9 October 2014 19: 51
    +13
    There is no glory for the fighters of Ukraine, you have no forgiveness for the death of civilians, for the death of children and mothers! You have no place on earth, you have nothing. Shame on you who kill your own people and "not your own people"! Burn in hell! You are worse than the fascists, you filthy bastards! Hit the civilians from behind the hillock! You are just ghouls !!! I just have no words, you are nobody, SHAME you! Ukropovskuyu your mother in the yoke, the army of appendages of Independence!am
  6. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 9 October 2014 19: 51
    +11
    "According to the military prosecutor, the battalion did not comply with the order three times."
    And what was the military prosecutor doing during this period if the battalion THREE (!) Failed to comply with the order ?! Although ... what an army, such orders and a similar military prosecutor .. In one word - VLEVITY!
    1. GUKTU92
      GUKTU92 9 October 2014 19: 59
      +7
      the battalion did not fulfill the order three times: “After the first shelling, for which the battalion was not ready, because the soldiers hoped that they would not shoot from Russia for 40 km

      Of course, who expects to be killed in a war? Especially for 40 km? Onizhedeti - therefore, after an excursion on school buses home ...
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 9 October 2014 20: 24
      +9
      Quote: ALABAY45
      "According to the military prosecutor, the battalion did not comply with the order three times."

      According to the new charter of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the order is executed from the fifth time.
    3. forest park 86
      forest park 86 9 October 2014 20: 31
      +3
      what orders. such and execution
  7. Yaro001
    Yaro001 9 October 2014 19: 52
    +4
    This is not news to us that we are looking for the extreme in the whole world. That we have that all over the world there will be some kind of middling, because the celestials of the political and military are not aware.
    1. persei
      persei 9 October 2014 20: 38
      +2
      And what is it that Porosenko will not pull away some kind of prosecutor? He said that little has died ...
      Earlier, President Poroshenko said that information about a large number of those killed near Ilovaisk "is unreliable." According to official figures, 108 fighters died there at the end of August.

      mean little !!!
  8. Everest2014
    Everest2014 9 October 2014 19: 54
    +9
    It’s Putin’s agents who shot at Putin’s FSB agents, and a third party shot everyone. But there are no losses, Avakov already clearly said everything on Twitter. Psaki has already checked reports from social networks and is sure that Avakov is right. Everything's Alright.
    1. BYV
      BYV 9 October 2014 20: 16
      +6
      Quote: everest2014
      Psaki has already checked reports from social networks and is confident

      She is not sure yet. On the way to the office, where she went to clarify, the elevator broke and she got stuck in it. Now she can not only watch tomorrow, but also count both of her deputies, four of whom have already gone to visit their grandmothers in Fergusson, and then sunbathe on the famous beaches of Belarus.
  9. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 9 October 2014 19: 54
    +7
    Bravo, kakly are true to themselves, the search for someone to blame for their own stupidity takes about 40 seconds, no more. It is desirable from a passing body, which is not at all at work. School! Dill is never confessed to the deed, it is impossible according to the genetic code of the crest, like a primate. am
  10. Verden
    Verden 9 October 2014 19: 54
    +3
    it’s good when you have someone to hang all the dogs on.
  11. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 October 2014 19: 55
    +9
    I especially liked the artillery strike at a distance of 40 km from the Russian border. What did they shoot with? A tornado, or what? And his volleys could not be detected from satellites vigilant striped "partners"? So from the battalion then only minced meat would remain.
    1. priest58
      priest58 9 October 2014 20: 07
      +8
      Well, purely hypothetically, Peony, Tornado-G, Smerch (from cheap - not counting active rockets).
      and in fantasies - nuclear weapons (Galimatei), death star, etc.
      1. wasjasibirjac
        wasjasibirjac 9 October 2014 20: 19
        +7
        Ilya Muromets and Alyosha Popovich were also noted there. Dobrynya Nikitich did not go, said that he couldn’t beat his own, Kiev ones. wink
      2. Feka
        Feka 9 October 2014 20: 32
        +5
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        I especially liked the artillery strike at a distance of 40 km from the Russian border.

        Quote: priest58
        Well, purely hypothetically, Peony, Tornado-G, Smerch (from cheap - not counting active rockets).
        and in fantasies - nuclear weapons (Galimatei), death star, etc.

        I didn’t understand where and how they were so treated from the territory of Russia that they appeared and left? From the border to Amvrosievka - 20 km, from the border to Ilovaisk - 50 km. They left from Ilovaisk, as the prosecutor says. The first shelling was near Amvrosievka. Much confused, men. wassat laughing
    2. pazuhinm
      pazuhinm 10 October 2014 00: 01
      0
      not from the Russian border, but from Russia ... The context is just that!
  12. poquello
    poquello 9 October 2014 19: 55
    +8
    The Ukrop prosecutor’s office and other types of authorities are amused, everyone who deserters and criminals do not want to fight for Dill, everyone who tells the truth when they return from the ATO clinked glasses and carry nonsense. How long will this state of fear last? Get fucked up, and we laughed at North Korea.
  13. ALEXX.
    ALEXX. 9 October 2014 19: 56
    +6
    Ilovaisky can now scare dill. That would be remembered that there is such a city in Novorosia.
  14. gozmos
    gozmos 9 October 2014 19: 57
    +7
    Not figs was poking around ... Wanted, received .. Dill to the west will still complain and will be sentenced in absentia in their opinion to the "culprits"))))
  15. DMB-75
    DMB-75 9 October 2014 19: 58
    +8
    ... from Russia:
    1. builder
      builder 9 October 2014 20: 36
      +11
      Quote: DMB-75
      ... from Russia:
  16. Grigorievich
    Grigorievich 9 October 2014 20: 00
    +6
    It’s necessary to blame the mediocrity of the Ukrainian command for someone. Some 300 warriors washed away and the whole front flew. It’s necessary to invent this. It’s how you burned yourself.
  17. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 9 October 2014 20: 00
    +6
    what did you want ?? .. sewed in a bag you can not hide .. even with information blockade from "enemies", those who have visited "* opera" will be clear who, why, and why .. and who needs it and is profitable .. waiting for winter is will sharpen the insight of "freeloaders"
  18. jovanni
    jovanni 9 October 2014 20: 02
    +9
    Oh, well, the lads got bored, the little creepers got scared and went home! Shaw now, shoot them? ... Although you can, there are still these battalions like dirt ...
  19. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 9 October 2014 20: 06
    +6
    We realized that the truth about the losses will still come out, therefore we must recognize these losses (well, not all, part) BUT at the same time find the guilty (a priori). Zombies in their style will tell you everything in color and the attention of the zombinettlement will grab the ending about the perpetrators ... Something tells me that the puppeteers started using books on psychology request Skillfully bring the population to the problem, portray from the point of view that the customer needs, skillfully submit ... and voila! Another absolution was found and the people understand everything differently ... Ahhh, I almost forgot, not the people, but the zombies. After all, they have nothing to choose! What they show is true.
    How sad it all is ...
    1. priest58
      priest58 9 October 2014 20: 11
      +2
      especially liked
      in their style they will tell everything in colors

      and skipped "all in helmets" (Tymchuk)
    2. ty60
      ty60 9 October 2014 21: 20
      +3
      the elections are on the nose. We are trying to PR. However, the decisions taken are not binding. As always, try to sit on the same chair ... several chairs at the same time. Depends on the appetite. And in the end, she herself. That is, F ..
  20. samoletil18
    samoletil18 9 October 2014 20: 07
    +11
    They went to put padded jackets on the ears. And quilted jackets began to shoot at them. They did not subscribe to this. Maradera-rape, always ready, but under the bullets in no way.
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 9 October 2014 21: 06
      +7
      They went to put padded jackets on the ears.

      I remember that in the 41st the Nazis also came at us, sleeves rolled up to the elbow, smiled ...
  21. goljuk
    goljuk 9 October 2014 20: 07
    +5
    With the competence shown by the Supreme Armed Forces Commander of the Armed Forces and his Minister of Defense, the level of collection and training of battalions is hardly different. There were others besides the Ilovaysky cauldron .... They hoped to ride, but they were forced to crawl and die. And to hell with them!
  22. pvv113
    pvv113 9 October 2014 20: 10
    +5
    The chief military prosecutor of Ukraine, Anatoly Matios, accused the “Carpathian” battalion in this tragedy.

    Dill is to blame for everything except those who directly launched the war, as well as puppeteers from the US and the EU. Well, and, as always, moskali is to blame.
    fighters hoped that they would not shoot from Russia
    hi
  23. AIR ZNAK
    AIR ZNAK 9 October 2014 20: 13
    +4
    Nevertheless, Ukrainians themselves admit the loss of ukrovoyak. Not so long ago, they talked with Ukrainians who had gone astray from the military enlistment office in a third country. They unanimously talk about at least 30 thousand of their warriors who died.
  24. sanyavolhv
    sanyavolhv 9 October 2014 20: 15
    +4
    health
    that's right. the commander is not to blame who sends to the "meat grinder" those who are not fired upon "they are children" they themselves are to blame "they are children" because they did not know where and why, what they would do with them. They would have told in advance that most of the Bandera members ended their lives without honor and conscience, banditing, robbing and killing civilians. However, there were defenders of this population, Bandera went to the judgment of God as murderers, DO NOT KILL! as robbers DO NOT STEAL! as rapists, DO NOT WISH THE WIFE OF YOUR NEAREST! as individuals who prove to God his stupidity !!! like you create people and we kill them, you say GODDURG! I wonder what God did to them ??? I think no one needs my answer. You know.
  25. wasjasibirjac
    wasjasibirjac 9 October 2014 20: 27
    +5
    strange prosecutor - on the morning of 23.07. there were 4000 people. morning of 23.08. 600 people left, 3400 casualties. and all were directly killed. he is not aware that the units are replenished in case of losses, they are not brought to a dozen strengths and are not expected to be killed. while some are wounded, they are evacuated to the hospital. therefore, it cannot be said that for the month of the Armed Forces in this area, 3400 people lost. Maybe more, maybe less. they hide the truth about their own losses from themselves.
    1. ty60
      ty60 9 October 2014 21: 28
      +1
      Yes, they scattered at the first opportunity. They didn’t have time to fill up. Not ideological fighters, not fighters at all. Only under the detachment. Here it’s violet who will kill the attacking separatists or their right-wing detachment.
  26. Pavelm
    Pavelm 9 October 2014 20: 29
    +13
    Loved the chronicles of the day from the Ukrainian media http://www.segodnya.ua
    The most resonant events of the day in the Donbass: October 9

    - "In Donetsk, the activity of 2 special groups of the GRU of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces was recorded. The first group includes 7 specialists in sabotage. The second group - 5 specialists in information and psychological operations. The locations of the groups are provided by security from the military personnel of the Russian Federation."

    All leading intelligence agencies together can envy such awareness!
    Or our special groups scored on the junta and the morning building on their parade ground is carried out ...
    1. ty60
      ty60 9 October 2014 21: 34
      0
      Pontov was not measured. The Konovalets was blown up, we were killed by the concrete. Nobody was even detained. If it is necessary to liquidate someone else, the result will be the same. Who in the first place?
  27. Kenji
    Kenji 9 October 2014 20: 31
    +16
    How many more people will die while the Ukrainian military will finally understand that it is the United States that leads them through Urainian politicians.
    ps with a bit of humor
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 9 October 2014 20: 51
      +5
      And what? Are you smoked? The ring on the right hand ...
      1. Sergey Vl.
        Sergey Vl. 9 October 2014 20: 57
        +6
        Not divorced - he was divorced.
      2. kagorta
        kagorta 10 October 2014 08: 20
        0
        For former and current Catholics in the tradition of wearing a married ring on this hand. Now if to be worn on the left then ...
    2. poquello
      poquello 9 October 2014 21: 20
      +5
      Quote: Kenji
      How many more people will die while the Ukrainian military will finally understand that it is the United States that leads them through Urainian politicians.
      ps with a bit of humor

      No kidding, on the news they showed that in the USA they are trying to equate chimpanzees with human rights,
      Macaque's experience is probably inspiring
  28. Oleg100565
    Oleg100565 9 October 2014 20: 35
    +3
    Quote: BYV
    Where did the dead come from? The militia has nothing to do with ... They themselves killed each other ... lol

    here they shot from each other’s city.
  29. Twilight
    Twilight 9 October 2014 20: 36
    +4
    Guys that something is not heard of aviation UKROZHOPOV (all failed?))))
    1. Miron64
      Miron64 9 October 2014 23: 05
      0
      There is aviation! laughing
    2. Sergey Vl.
      Sergey Vl. 10 October 2014 00: 50
      0
      There will be no aviation - the aviator got sick. (C)
      Vu Krajine instead of aviation is already "heavenly hundreds".
  30. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 9 October 2014 20: 41
    +3
    Those zapadenki natsgada that legs took away, well, well done fear saved them, well, in general, traitors. Traitors struck, tell the creatures that you have nothing to do in the Donbass. If you go there, you will return with a load of 200 tons. I wish you the same.
  31. Viktor V.
    Viktor V. 9 October 2014 20: 48
    +2
    Quote: Nikoha.2010
    There is no glory for the fighters of Ukraine, you have no forgiveness for the death of civilians, for the death of children and mothers! You have no place on earth, you have nothing. Shame on you who kill your own people and "not your own people"! Burn in hell! You are worse than the fascists, you filthy bastards! Hit the civilians from behind the hillock! You are just ghouls !!! I just have no words, you are nobody, SHAME you! Ukropovskuyu your mother in the yoke, the army of appendages of Independence!am

    I fully support! I wanted to say the same words!
  32. sabakina
    sabakina 9 October 2014 20: 49
    +7
    Quote: enot73
    Directly half the country is guilty, but not only its leadership and not the main army commanders.

    Something cat at the grandmother's frail some ...
    1. ALABAY45
      ALABAY45 9 October 2014 21: 06
      +2
      Somehow "Russian cats" look like "British" ...?!
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 9 October 2014 22: 25
        +4
        Well, Stirlitz was also a true Aryan ...
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 9 October 2014 22: 57
        0
        Quote: ALABAY45
        Ak-then "Russian cats" look like "British" ...?!
        belay
        I’m even afraid to assume: what is it that they look like them ...
      3. Sergey Vl.
        Sergey Vl. 10 October 2014 00: 56
        0
        "... Okay David, I'll swipe the other way!" (from anecdote)
  33. andrew42
    andrew42 9 October 2014 20: 50
    +4
    Something painfully familiar. Somewhere I have already heard this. AND ! To the cinema! "Omsk. Kolchak-Khabensky. Beroev (aka Fandorin, aka ... well you know) comes to the government meeting. - Treason, gentlemen! The 1st Ukrainian regiment went over to the side of the enemy, exposing the central part of the front. The Reds are on the way." to Omsk ... "The film, of course, is about the Russian tragedy, it would be a sin to pin it. But the "1st Ukrainian Regiment" is apparently an eternal phenomenon. I don’t think that "Prykarpattya" left home for humanistic reasons. At that time, even more people went there at will. Apparently, indeed, they were shooting at them! and the automatic machine will do, of course. Guard the fat.
  34. Bassoon
    Bassoon 9 October 2014 20: 51
    +2
    Progress! Now they have accused the battalion of volunteers, not the RF Armed Forces, who are not in dill.
  35. sv68
    sv68 9 October 2014 20: 54
    +1
    Illovaysk - our future is a division of the suburb authorities! laughing
  36. Sergey Vl.
    Sergey Vl. 9 October 2014 21: 02
    +3
    It was reported that in the Ukropov army the address to servicemen was changed from "comrade" to "pan". Well, will the Poles help them ?!
  37. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 9 October 2014 21: 07
    +4
    In a week, there will be information that a criminal case was opened against the prosecutor who opened a criminal case and thereby merged the "secret" Gelatey real figure of Ukropov's losses. They still have officially dead 9 hundred.
  38. Valkh
    Valkh 9 October 2014 21: 31
    +1
    This, all postscripts !!! MOS intrigues ... lei !!! laughing jump - keep warm !!!
  39. vvp2412
    vvp2412 9 October 2014 21: 36
    +2
    There is NO LOSS! :)))))
  40. Woolfy
    Woolfy 9 October 2014 21: 46
    +1
    The truth about losses quietly climbs out. True switchmen will quickly and not find those. Geletey again smeared am
  41. Drunya
    Drunya 9 October 2014 22: 04
    +9
    Spain students fought back
    1. Dyatko Nebatko
      Dyatko Nebatko 10 October 2014 06: 40
      -1
      Here it is, balm for the soul! European youth should be supported in such actions. They are the future of Europe and if the guidelines for them remain the same as those of their fathers (now), then we grieve from Europe in the future ...
    2. kompotnenado
      kompotnenado 11 October 2014 18: 09
      0
      The Spaniards have the right color
  42. Black
    Black 9 October 2014 22: 08
    0
    We in the Don said- "Atamans donuts, Cossacks cones."
    Quote: Woolfy
    .Geletey again smeared
  43. andrey903
    andrey903 9 October 2014 22: 25
    0
    The death of Ukrainians is not happy
  44. Krsk
    Krsk 9 October 2014 22: 34
    +2
    and they make me happy, that means more children in Novorossia will finish school, more of their fathers will come home to their wives and the same children !!!!!!!!!!!!!! but how?
  45. VadimSt
    VadimSt 9 October 2014 22: 48
    +3
    1998, Leonid Filatov, comedy "Lysistrata"
    Wait! .. You are confusing something in the heat of the moment!
    After all, every kid knows:
    You have not been attacked. You - attacked.
    You were the first to start a war!
    You promised citizens protection
    And the uniform scandal has turned out! ..
    Whom and from whom did you protect
    When nobody attacked you?
    Ah, how many vile people on earth!
    Such times have come! ..
    You present meanness as a feat
    And ask for the order!
    ...
    Before the Motherland, of course, it is inconvenient ...
    Debts, of course, must be repaid ...
    But why is she - in payment of debt -
    Does it require you to kill someone?
    And since you have such debts before her,
    That even life - to pay them - a trifle,
    I want to ask you, dears,
    Why did you borrow so?
    Kohl Motherland strikes from behind,
    So much so that even in the eyes then circles,
    That's better dear, do not fit
    You are in debt to this terrible Motherland!
    1. Krsk
      Krsk 9 October 2014 23: 37
      0
      exactly 98? it hurts in "color"
      1. VadimSt
        VadimSt 10 October 2014 00: 10
        0
        Right! Can be found on the wiki. People's Artist of the USSR L. Filatov died in 2003.
  46. olegkrava
    olegkrava 9 October 2014 23: 07
    0
    Quote: Sergey Vl.
    It was reported that in the Ukropov army the address to servicemen was changed from "comrade" to "pan". Well, will the Poles help them ?!

    Sra.ka is naked, and he is PAN.
  47. zen-do.ru
    zen-do.ru 9 October 2014 23: 27
    0
    Ukrovoyak is sorry when they were deceived or poorly educated that they went to fight, but did not refuse.

    But at that moment they feel sorry for them.
    And when they were already killed, they did not mind a drop.
    And I don’t understand why they are being released - will they not return to fight?

    PS. Normal people should understand everything. We went to Russia to earn money, to the Crimea, or simply saw visiting Russians, watched Russian films, etc. We must understand what was happening. And if they are completely stupid, then let them die, personally for someone a tragedy, but for humanity - no matter how cynical it sounds, the gene pool will become cleaner.
  48. Number 17
    Number 17 9 October 2014 23: 29
    +1
    One thing is interesting. Let the prosecutor of rights and losses in sector D amounted to 3.4 thousand people. That is, 3400 people in one month. Further, what are the losses in sectors a b c d if such exist? Another question for dill. You really hate the USSR and everything is connected with it, you are trying to fight in a Western manner from afar. So what am I doing this. The USSR in Afghanistan during the 10 years of the war lost about 14 thousand dead and wounded. Because before Afghanistan, they concluded from Vietnam where, roughly speaking, the Americans for the same period of time lost about 60 thousand people or a little more. You dill at such a pace for the year should lose at least 34000 people. So what have you been taught in military academies. Or really ukramiya can fight only on paper and in exercises.
  49. I read the news
    I read the news 9 October 2014 23: 36
    0
    Quote: SSR
    on call

    And these are voluntary. Here we arrived, figured out what was happening and left, did not want to kill our citizens, to break the oath. Now they will be judged for it.
    1. VSZMK
      VSZMK 10 October 2014 07: 47
      0
      So then they are volunteers. They want to fight, they want not. The collective farm is voluntary!
  50. Belarus
    Belarus 9 October 2014 23: 38
    +1
    On the one hand, it seems I should be glad that so many dill has been mowed. But for some reason there is no joy request .
    Maybe it is not because the Slavs kill the Slavs in a bloody massacre?
    Although on the other hand, if you look, no one dragged their punishers by the ears to go and kill their own kind i.e. Ukrainians.
    In all this hell, I feel sorry for the children who are the flowers of life. And I do not feel sorry for the punishers. Well done militiamen do everything possible and even more in this war. For example, they let live and healthy dill. Although they want to avenge their dead friends and relatives , for the killed children, abound.
    The militias remained human in spite of the fact that a war was going on in their land. Good luck to them, dexterity, even more strength, and may God preserve them.
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 10 October 2014 01: 49
      0
      I understand you. But on the other hand, ukrohunta is not being driven to the southeast under machine guns. And the fact that "they did not know where they would be taken, either to harvest potatoes on the collective farm, or to harvest hay ...". All this is nonsense. They are fighting for the loot. And then they run to us across the border to save their train and begin to find fault with their commanders.
      Look at the shooting, where they show the mothers of these, so to speak, Slavs.
      And they cry that they do not feed their poor sons and husbands, that there are no "armor", there are no warm clothes, they do not give the promised salary of THEIR LABOR ...
      And the fact that they are going to kill ALL in the southeast, regardless of gender and age, they do not remember about it.
      These are the Slav brothers.
    2. Camouflet
      Camouflet 10 October 2014 03: 37
      +2
      No need to grieve over the invaders. If not them, then they. Personally, I do not regret them at all.