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Ukraine "CCC"

The Ministry of Economic Development of Russia provided expert data, according to which the level of investment of Russian business in Ukraine is (according to the most conservative estimates) 10 billions of dollars. Independent experts announce that the amount submitted by the Ministry of Economic Development is at least an order of magnitude less than real, even if we take into account that recently a number of major players announced their withdrawal from the Ukrainian market (as an example of such an output, you can call Lukoil, which implemented its network of petrol stations in Ukraine to Austrian business).

Of course, you can beat yourself with fists in the chest and claim that the loss of the Ukrainian market for Russia is a mere trifle, but it is unlikely that such an approach can solve a really negative situation. And this situation is connected with the fact that two neighboring states, which have an impressive border on their length and truly enormous potentials, lose their turnover at an incredible pace. If in the “non-democratic” period, mutual trade between the Russian Federation and Ukraine steadily approached $ 50 billion, then less than a third of this impressive amount will remain by the end of the year.

It is unlikely that a normal person such a situation can cause optimism. But, as it turns out, a third of the mentioned volumes of “domesticated” goods turnover is not the bottom yet. A few weeks before the parliamentary elections, there is at least one more threat that stands in the way of any kind of civilized trade between Ukraine and Russia. And this threat is the total radicalization of the Ukrainian parliament. The list of candidates for the Verkhovna Rada, in fact, leaves only a ghostly chance for future parliamentarians to get around to solving economic problems without dung.

If today the same squatting Right Sector is operating in the status of a semi-legal rabble, then tomorrow this trash may turn out to be the parliamentary party of Ukraine. And if the “party” is engaged in raider seizures of property in Ukraine today, and its sponsors say it’s time to pay attention to Russian assets, then you can imagine what the situation will take after 26 October. A “party” that was outlawed may become legitimized, which will lead to a new rampage of both domestic and economic (including in relation to the assets of the Russian Federation) crime, the level of which is still critical today.

Of course, the protégés of the current Ukrainian government are not idiots either. Rotten radicals they needed only to hold the "right" figures in power. Get the same legitimized debaucher Maidan in non-stop mode still in the Parliament - not in the interests of the West. After all, the “Right Sector”, and other “battalion parties”, if Washington needs the same thing today, it’s definitely not in the Rada, but the east of Kiev, the better. After all, Washington, for all the clumsiness of its foreign policy, should not (and hardly feeds) the illusions that the entire ultra-radical Ukrainian camarilla will always and in all support the Big Brother. Will not be! “Ukraine ponad use”, which today, for a fee, zealously shoves through the garbage cans of “those close to the ex-authorities”, may start pushing those who drove along the Maidan Nuland tomorrow. Is it with them will lose ...

In other words, October 26 is a control check on the fact of how strong Washington holds Kiev by its soft spot. It seems that a radical CEC “democratic” CEC will not let anyone take more radical than an empty Gadget of Lyashko and a pocket “Fuhrer” in the Rada with a “democratic” vote count. Well, maybe just a little - for the diversity of pictures ...

If so, does it give chances to at least count on a warming of relations in the trade and economic sphere between Ukraine and Russia? It would be desirable, of course, to believe in the best, but, apparently, not this time. The West, after the ukrovyborg 26 October, will complete the formation of power in Ukraine on the patterns that are prepared in advance. And the policy of the authorities, machined according to the state procurement, a priori does not imply the presence of any positive attitude towards Russia in this policy. So, as he said, one movie character: they will rob ... Or rather, they will continue to rob.

Here are just the continuation of the looting in the first place will concern even non-Russian or any other "undemocratic" assets. For further looting prepare what is left of Ukraine.

Ukraine "CCC"

October 2 The National Bank of Ukraine gave official permission (would try not to give ...) to an American corporation Chevron to open an account that will financially contribute to the implementation of the project for the extraction of shale gas in the territory of Lviv and Ivano-Frankivsk regions. At this stage, about 160 million dollars will have to pass through this account at the stage of basic geological exploration, and about $ 3,1 billion will be at the stage of probable industrial development. Chevron pushes the document so that the proceeds from the sale go exactly to the account opened by the corporation. It turns out that Chevron insists that all profits from the possible sale of Ukrainian shale gas pass exclusively through its budget, even without thinking about any joint projects. And especially remarkable is that Chevron Ukraine itself will buy its shale gas, and at that price that the American giant will ask for. Well, this is complete energy independence ...

The only “joy” for Ukraine is “but our bank is” ... “Our bank” is oh, not a fact ... At that level of rating of the Ukrainian economy, which was issued the other day Fitch (and the rating was equated to the CCC - "CBC" - default is a real possibility), The National Bank is already anyone's, but certainly not Ukrainian.

But does it worry Ukrainian political “elite” today? Definitely not. She settled into power offices with outside help. Russia at one time went through this stage. It seems that some kind of deja vu will have to experience with respect to Ukraine.
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  1. Imperialkolorad
    Imperialkolorad 10 October 2014 09: 33
    Ukrainians do not want to learn from other people's rake, and they don’t remember their old ones.
    1. captain
      captain 10 October 2014 10: 53
      ImperialKolorad RU Today, 09: 33 Sorry, but I can’t imagine the Russians learning from the mistakes of others. Remind me at least one.
      1. Alex_Popovson
        Alex_Popovson 10 October 2014 11: 05
        so that Russians learn from the mistakes of others.

        Aptly noticed, furiously plus. But there are still a few points. We learned from Byzantium (successfully), learned from the example of the Germans and Americans - not to create colonies. Sporono, but in my opinion it fits the description of "someone else's rake".
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 10 October 2014 13: 45
        Quote: captain
        Sorry, but I do not think of the case that the Russians would learn from the mistakes of others. Remind me at least one.

        The Manhattan Project, for example, thanks to Soviet intelligence and especially people like: Klaus Fuchs, The Coen Spouses, Bruno Pontecorvo and many, many others, we were able to avoid many mistakes and wasted resources and time.

    2. LvKiller
      LvKiller 10 October 2014 11: 31
      What did you expect from the puppy-winkers? An economic miracle?
      1. Evil Pole
        Evil Pole 10 October 2014 13: 26
        Quote: LvKiller
        What did you expect from the puppy-winkers? An economic miracle?

        I personally expected a default ruin on Thursday. BUT! What Jupiter can do is not a bull. And this bull is fed.
      2. Karlsonn
        Karlsonn 10 October 2014 13: 49
        Quote: LvKiller
        What did you expect from the puppy-winkers? An economic miracle?

        Here, by the way, the Nazis decided to hold a support action at the University of Madrid, which, of course, is to fight for "schenewmerlu" and it is more pleasant and more comfortable in Madrid than in the Donbass, but the reaction of Spanish students surprised them somewhat.

        1. Ural45
          Ural45 11 October 2014 10: 26
          It would be more CORRECT, apparently, like this: "puppies amnewed".
      3. Sharikov
        Sharikov 10 October 2014 21: 06
        Advisor to the President Sergei Glazyev told yesterday what the future awaits Ukraine. An economic disaster awaits her. “Ukraine, according to our calculations, slipped from the path where stabilization can still be achieved to the path of a sharp decline, which we estimate at minus 15% of GDP. For at least some stabilization, 100 – 120 billion dollars will be required, ”said Glazyev.
        1. valokordin
          valokordin 11 October 2014 06: 22
          Only for some reason they don’t listen to the advice of Seryozha Sglazyev.
    3. skeptic
      skeptic 10 October 2014 12: 56
      Quote: ImperialKolorad
      Ukrainians do not want to learn from other people's rake, and they don’t remember their old ones.

      And would you, so often stepping on a rake, but all over the head, you could not just learn, but generally think?
  2. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 10 October 2014 09: 37
    If so, does this give at least chances to count on a warming of relations in the trade and economic sphere between Ukraine and Russia?

    No, it does not. Relations with Ukraine west of the southeast will only worsen. What can be expected from people who fiercely hate Russia and follow all the instructions (orders) of A. Mer.
    1. sergeybulkin
      sergeybulkin 10 October 2014 14: 02
      That's right! No trade, no relationship with the country where the Nazis are in power! Enough, they also traded with Hieler Germany to the last - and what happened ... And how are these different?
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 10 October 2014 09: 38
    Ukraine "CCC" Given the level of the rating of the Ukrainian economy, which was issued the other day by Fitch (and the rating was equated to CCC - "CCC" - default seems to be a real possibility), Ie Ukraine is not in the "C-C-C" mode, but "So-C"
    1. FACKtoREAL
      FACKtoREAL 10 October 2014 09: 44
      Ie Ukraine is not in the "C-C-C" mode, but "So-C"

      SO, the other day, a rating agency TOPWAR...
      downgraded the long-term rating of Ukraine from CCC to ..
      So ci hu... is who?
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 10 October 2014 09: 58
      Quote: parusnik
      "C-C-C" - default seems to be a real possibility), Ie Ukraine is not in "C-C-C" mode, but "So-C"

      Then you really need to: CCC - So-Si-Svoy ...!
  4. Performance
    Performance 10 October 2014 09: 43
    The fact is that a lot of Russian money was invested there during the years of "independence", and it simply follows mathematically that the Ukrainian oligarchs financed the Maidan at the expense of Russian funds!
  5. bootlegger
    bootlegger 10 October 2014 09: 45
    The only hope that follows from the above is that Russian corporations will finally understand that investing at home is already safer. And nobody will confiscate assets and impose sanctions.
    So far this has been brewed in Ukraine, but there is a hunch that the era of mutual confiscation of assets, here in the West, is not far off.
    ISKANDER25 10 October 2014 09: 48
    Hello! Look at the date of the magazine!
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 10 October 2014 09: 50
    how firmly Washington holds Kiev for a soft spot.

    Normally, Fashington holds Kuyev by the rolls, with all arms and legs. Petrushka’s policy is all on manual control because of the red-handed.
  8. Dobrov
    Dobrov 10 October 2014 09: 51
    Everything happens very correctly. Let the Ukrainian economy be reset to zero, BECAUSE WE ARE STARTED UNKNOWN ECONOMIC COOPERATION, but not for American pieces of paper that cost nothing, but for full-fledged, precious rubles, provided with real energy resources and a gold reserve of the most powerful country in the world and, I hope in the near future of the most powerful economy. And we don’t need the pin_dos papers. Pin_dos parasites, devouring the entire world community. Every working Russian feeds not only himself, but also some negros from the SGA. In vain ...
  9. Leonidych
    Leonidych 10 October 2014 09: 53
    Quote: ISKANDER25
    Hello! Look at the date of the magazine!

    I think that similar illustrations can be found in the 19th and 18th and 17th and 16th centuries
  10. RU-Officer
    RU-Officer 10 October 2014 09: 55
    "To be or not to be?"
    "To give or not to give?"
    Some casuistry ... I do not want to offend the author.
    It's time to kill in yourself "push-pull" (not to say worse wink )
    She died so died (in the sense - Nezalezhn), and excluded from the equation.
    At least for a while. And there - we'll see what
  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 10 October 2014 10: 06
    Jumped, jumped. But this is the beginning of the decay of the entire rotten politics and the whole economy. So the heroope will fill you, and the mattress will be even more so. Who will need you later on xen? Again, ask for Russia or die yourself?
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 10 October 2014 13: 25
      Quote: aszzz888
      Jumped, jumped.

      Some Svidomo idiots claim that Ukrainians evolved from ukrokantropov. Nonsense. The first protoucr descended from a dragonfly. The fate of this lady is known. The fate of her current descendants will be similar. This will not add intelligence to the population of the former Ukraine, but experience will be postponed in memory. bully
  12. Anton Gavrilov
    Anton Gavrilov 10 October 2014 10: 27
    Sadly, all this-so much money was invested in their economy, so much wealth remained after the USSR, and no thanks, and even so mediocre people were consumed! With their potential, after the collapse of the USSR, they really could create a powerful, prosperous state, but in As a result, we have come to the point that we all see now ... Shame is all that can be said here ...
  13. captain
    captain 10 October 2014 10: 57
    Our oligarchs wanted to snatch more and pay less, but there is a good saying; avaricious pays twice, thrice, and sucker for life.
  14. LvKiller
    LvKiller 10 October 2014 11: 30
    Yes, "s (and / o) si" is already Ukraine, as long as you can with a good friend, a Nobel laureate. He will only teach you good. There is democracy ...
  15. Cristall
    Cristall 10 October 2014 12: 11
    the amount of Russian capital assets in Ukraine is impressive. According to some estimates, from 30% of all and above.
    The distance of Russian capital from factories to media channels is significant.
    I am surprised or not - but owning almost a third of Ukraine in assets, not even trying to protect ... is strange.
    It is clear that the comments - but let us not care. Turnover with neighbors is always significant.
    The loss of Ukraine in a geopolitical war as well as in an economic one will worsen the situation of the Russian Federation.
    if everything is left to chance, everything will be very bad.
    But a little happy.
    despite the rhetoric of the media, despite all the radical and other moments between the two countries, the business skillfully disguises itself and continues to work. A striking example is Sberbank of Russia - a radical anti-Russian demonstration can even pass by it ... and nothing. And there are such Sberbanks on every corner of every city (Odessa for sure)
    Engines sell no matter what. Something is deliberately delayed, something is quietly traded. Import export works (but do not advertise)
    In general, rhetoric is usually a screen ... under it hide something interesting (concessions, interests, etc.)
    Of course, to the detriment of the country, they can nationalize the business of the Russian Federation in Ukraine (the example of Crimea is the opposite)
    but do not forget that even Russian banks participate in supporting the Kiev regime. We conclude that everything is at the same time there.
  16. Yun Klob
    Yun Klob 10 October 2014 12: 37
    Peremoga in Ukrainian.
  17. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 10 October 2014 13: 24
    No, I’m certainly not an economist, but just while we are counting money here, Donbass counts corpses. Is there still at least something in this rotten world that is not for sale or for sale, and for what really can life be given?
  18. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 10 October 2014 17: 22
    Ukraine has a CCC. Fitch Very bad. Pre-default.

    And Russia has a BBB. Fitch With a negative outlook. A little better ....
    1. not main
      not main 10 October 2014 19: 52
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Ukraine has a CCC. Fitch Very bad. Pre-default.

      And Russia has a BBB. Fitch With a negative outlook. A little better ....

      So what? The economy is created by people with competent leadership, and not some sort of agency! Examples: how many times have we been buried only in the last century?
      1. no matter who i am
        no matter who i am 10 October 2014 22: 06
        Well, this is understandable: for Ukraine, horror-horror, decline, degradation, right now, everything will die, but by the way, they need it. For Russia, come on, these Western experts do not know anything, we are ahead of the rest. Is this not cheers-patriotism?
  19. INF
    INF 10 October 2014 18: 56
    It is necessary to invest through intermediaries so that then you can buy all the dill.
  20. Ural45
    Ural45 10 October 2014 19: 54
    Children are usually told not CCC, but letter-letter-letter!
  21. Aasdem
    Aasdem 11 October 2014 09: 50
    Alas, I don’t want to rejoice at the tragedy of Ukraine. They put themselves in the office of rulers, reached the civil war, and are heading for economic collapse. one thing would be somewhere in Liberia or Papua New Guinea. so no, here nearby, on the sidelines, in the historical homeland of the East Slavic peoples, in the former common part for some of the Motherland (USSR), in general, strongly tied to each other's economic space. They have growing problems, and everyone, all the CIS countries and Russia will have to solve. and the West knows that whatever they do in Ukraine, Russia will disentangle.
    so maybe something needs to be done more than now, what would everyone not get then?
  22. kuz363
    kuz363 11 October 2014 18: 36
    And what did Russia want after the adoption of Crimea? You can argue, right or wrong, but there is a fact. The territory of a foreign state is accepted in Russia. If Crimea remained independent, like Abkhazia, South Ossetia or Transnistria, then another thing. Accordingly, Ukraine can take its measures to the property of Russia ..
  23. Ramzess
    Ramzess 11 October 2014 21: 47
    at such a pace next year in Odessa, for rubles you can relax like a king, well, if you take a chance, of course.
  24. romandostalo
    romandostalo 15 October 2014 23: 41
    the worst thing is that the right sector has an awesome amount of weapons and they can simply cancel all other candidates ............ Do you understand what I mean .............. .....
  25. Prager
    Prager 2 November 2014 14: 29
    Ukraine de facto became the next American state, having completely lost its sovereignty. And not the fact that there is a national currency - the main thing is in whose hands the National Bank of the country.