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Cosmos: Russia lives in the eighties (Strategypage.com USA)

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On September 2, a Russian spy satellite entered the atmosphere and no doubt burned over the western part of the United States. From New Mexico to Montana, people on earth could see a bright red trail across the sky with smaller red stripes that seemed to be separated from the main trail. For experienced observers it was clear that this is not a meteorite, which burns much faster than a satellite falling from its orbit. The red stripe was soon identified as Cosmos 2495, a Russian spy satellite of the Cobalt-M series (Yantar-4K2М), which was launched under a veil of secrecy four months earlier. Russia denied that the celestial phenomenon of September 2 was the Cobalt-M spy satellite, but numerous testimonies suggest otherwise. There are hundreds of fairly competent and experienced satellite watchers who, thanks to the Internet, could quickly exchange information and this community has an impressive track record in identifying satellites whose owners do not even allow their existence.

Currently, only three of the 98 spy satellites in orbit are Russian, while the 31 satellite is American and the rest are from several countries (including Israel). The satellite, which showed 2 September light show, became the ninth launched Cobalt-M reconnaissance satellite. The eighth satellite was launched in the 2012 year, and the first in the 2002 year. The second Cobalt-M was launched in May 2006, in very dramatic circumstances. This was due to the fact that the only active Russian spy satellite (naval intelligence satellite) was lost a month before. By the end of 2006, Russia was able to launch an electronic reconnaissance satellite and another naval intelligence satellite. At that time, Russia had dozens of military satellites in orbit, but all of them were either communication satellites or other purposes (but not for photo and electronic intelligence). Russia still uses a grouping based on Soviet technology (the era of the Cold War). Gradually, the state of affairs is changing, as a new generation of satellites being created by more Western standards is growing. But many of the obsolete satellites will remain in orbit for the foreseeable future.

Cobalt-M satellites weigh 6,7 tons, they hold three return capsules to return the film. A quarter of a century after the United States stopped using this technology, Russia continues to use film instead of digital technology for some of its intelligence satellites. In the US, the latest generation of spyware Keyhole 9 (or KH 9), which used the film, was operated in 1984 year. The film from the 9 series satellites was sent to Earth in containers (for high-resolution images).

The Keyhole 9 satellite (the first was launched in 1971) was not only the last of the American film satellite projects, but the largest and most efficient. Its layout decisions served as the basis for the layout of subsequent satellites with digital cameras. KH 9 could cover large areas with high resolution (at that time) 0,6 meters (24 inches). That was enough to detect and count Tanks, planes and even small combat boats. The nineteenth and final KH-9 was launched in 1984. The KH-9 satellite had a mass of 13 tons, several cameras were installed in it, as well as 4 or 5 capsules for the return of the film and its further processing and analysis. The KH-9 satellites received the nickname Big Bird (Big Bird). The first satellite with a film camera KH-1 was launched in 1959. Thus, over 25 years, film satellites completely covered the area of ​​hostile states.

Russia launched its first reconnaissance satellite with a digital photo in 1997. Model Arkon was not very successful. A more reliable Persona satellite (with higher resolution) was launched in the 2008 year. This happened after 22, after the first launch of the American satellite KH-11 into orbit. The US still operates the KH-11 satellites (deeply upgraded from the original version). They have a higher resolution and better reliability than the Russian Persona satellites.

Cosmos: Russia lives in the eighties (Strategypage.com USA)

Russian reconnaissance satellite of the Cobalt-M series


Russian reconnaissance satellite Persona

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  1. Balamyt
    Balamyt 10 October 2014 09: 31
    +5
    But on the ISS so far only on Russian ships!
    1. Sunjar
      Sunjar 10 October 2014 10: 17
      +15
      Normal article for foreigners. Why are you minus? But they should not write that not everything is fine with them, and generally satellites launch on our engines. And the ability to send film pictures would be better left. And then it’s possible to steal images from other people's satellites, but with a film of figs to you.
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        1. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 10 October 2014 13: 07
          -6
          Already two! So at least start up, that at the start does not burn, then in two months it will fall. The ruble must be punished for negligence, the ruble. Put the fitting up the booty, here you have a mortgage, you and your children, how much does a satellite cost there?
          1. Uncle
            Uncle 10 October 2014 13: 14
            0
            Quote: Observer 33
            Ruble must be punished for negligence, ruble

            You will punish him with the ruble, and the Americans will cajole with the dollar. Do you really think that the reason for the fall of satellites is negligence?
        2. Albert1988
          Albert1988 10 October 2014 14: 30
          +5
          Quote: Turik
          If we have only 3 satellites, and they have 31, this should in any case speak of something.

          Here is just one question - the number "3" was named not by representatives of our Defense Ministry, but by the journalists of the American edition ... I think this information should be treated with at least distrust, otherwise I remember the writings of the amers about the long-suffering PAK FA: how the Americans announced the development that it will not fly, how it flew - they wrote that it would not surpass the "raptor" at all and in any way - as a result, its prototype is already superior in some characteristics ...
          So we must remember that amerovskie mass media are masters of exaggerating their "mosch" and simply belittling the strength and capabilities of their rivals.
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    2. Letun
      Letun 10 October 2014 13: 29
      +4
      Quote: Balamyt
      But on the ISS so far only on Russian ships!

      Do not flatter yourself. This is temporary. In 3-5 years, the Americans will begin to fly on new-generation vehicles, and ours will also force on Soviet-developed unions.
  2. saag
    saag 10 October 2014 09: 36
    +2
    Yes, troubles are known with microelectronics; in general, it lives on the residual principle
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 10 October 2014 09: 41
    0
    Well done Americans! Take the gingerbread from the shelf. And quickly come up with and assemble your engines on your LV. And we will somehow fix the matter with our companions, not everything is so bad.
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 10 October 2014 13: 16
      +3
      Quote: inkass_98
      quickly invent and assemble your engines on your launch vehicles.

      Engines are a Soviet achievement, not a modern one. It should be a shame for us, not the Americans, for not being able to even repeat the achievements of the fathers.
      1. mark2
        mark2 10 October 2014 18: 29
        +2
        Personally, I see nothing wrong with the fact that until now rockets fly into space on engines developed by the USSR. This indicates their reliability, manufacturability and assembly. Jet engine is also jet in Africa. A new, old engine - they do not change the principle of jet propulsion. Now, if the Americans came up with an engine on completely different principles of motion, such as gravitational or something else, then they wrote their libel, and so ... All this is a provocation and propaganda. That type satellites are few, then enough. Will not be missed yet. And it's not about microelectronics. There will be no chips, we will build on lamps) The engine power is enough and not to lift such heaviness up!)
        1. Assistant
          Assistant 10 October 2014 21: 20
          +1
          Personally, I see nothing wrong with the fact that until now rockets fly into space on engines developed by the USSR.


          So why then still does not fly a suborbital bomber based on the Tu-160, whose hydrogen-powered engines managed to pass bench tests in the Union? This, by the way, and about

          Now, if the Americans came up with an engine on completely different principles of movement
  4. Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 10 October 2014 09: 49
    +4
    another flaming in style: we are the most technologically advanced and cool and Russian barbarians ...
  5. 73bor
    73bor 10 October 2014 09: 54
    0
    Judging by the way the Americans are watching from their satellites, they also do not have a "fountain" and, as far as is known, they mainly use infrared photography!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 10 October 2014 10: 14
      +5
      Quote: 73bor
      Judging by the way the Americans are watching from their satellites, they also do not have a "fountain" and, as far as is known, they mainly use infrared photography!

      and even data and photos from "social networks"! laughing
  6. The Art of War
    The Art of War 10 October 2014 09: 57
    +2
    http://nampuom-pycu.livejournal.com/85489.html
    1. The Art of War
      The Art of War 10 October 2014 09: 59
      +2
      Photos of our developments
      1. Professor
        Professor 10 October 2014 15: 25
        +3
        Quote: The Art of War
        Photos of our developments

        Mockups again?
        1. Manul
          Manul 10 October 2014 16: 24
          +5
          Quote: Professor
          Mockups again?

          And at least mock-ups. What bothers you this? In my memory, some mock-ups of the past have now become real machines. And in my childhood I really liked mock-ups. Because they are Our mock-ups. And your useless posts, like this, are more empty than these mock-ups. Something for a long time there was no photo of foreign technology - hack old man?
          1. Professor
            Professor 10 October 2014 20: 40
            -4
            Quote: Manul
            In my memory, some mock-ups of the past at the present time have become real machines.

            And in my memory, most of them remained layouts.



            Quote: Manul
            And your useless posts, like this one, are more empty than these very mock-ups.

            Put a minus and pass by.

            Quote: Manul
            Something for a long time there was no photo of foreign technology - hack old man?

            I will definitely do it. It will not rust after me. wink
            1. Landwarrior
              Landwarrior 12 October 2014 08: 16
              +1
              Professor, of course, I could be wrong, but the only lunar project in the USSR was still a royal one and it was a "one way ticket" as they say. no return. So maybe it's right that he remained in the models, no? hi
              1. Professor
                Professor 13 October 2014 08: 55
                0
                Quote: Landwarrior
                Professor, of course, I could be wrong, but the only lunar project in the USSR was still a royal one and there was this "one way ticket" as they say, that is. no return. So maybe it's right that he remained in the models, no?

                The history of the subjunctive moods does not know.
                1. Landwarrior
                  Landwarrior 15 October 2014 09: 35
                  0
                  Quote: Professor
                  The history of the subjunctive moods does not know.

                  I will not argue hi
        2. IAlex
          IAlex 10 October 2014 16: 33
          0
          And you will not be a case from the future that you are not even aware of such a term as "disbursement of funds"?
        3. Codename49
          Codename49 10 October 2014 16: 36
          0
          YES and horseradish rent, the rest is Secret especially for OOOOCHEN SMART JEWS smile
  7. Stiletto
    Stiletto 10 October 2014 09: 59
    -1
    If you Yankees are so smart, why can't you get into space without Russian engines? Download on trampolines with your digital cameras!
  8. saag
    saag 10 October 2014 10: 03
    +12
    Quote: Stiletto
    why can't you get out into space without Russian engines?

    maybe it’ll just be more expensive, that’s
    1. Uncle
      Uncle 10 October 2014 13: 18
      +4
      Quote: saag
      maybe it’ll just be more expensive, that’s

      And we are helping the enemy state in space exploration. And the "Mir" themselves flooded ...
      1. saag
        saag 10 October 2014 19: 32
        0
        Well, for what money you can’t do it :-)
    2. 2sila
      2sila 10 October 2014 14: 15
      +3
      Yes, they just can’t.
      At a cosmic price, their "analog" type is 1.5 times larger in size and 2.5-5% less efficient.
      They just can’t.
    3. Professor
      Professor 10 October 2014 15: 32
      +2
      Quote: saag
      maybe it’ll just be more expensive, that’s

      Not more expensive. Private traders are cheaper today. They will soon pick up a heavy rocket.
      1. 2sila
        2sila 11 October 2014 21: 10
        0
        What will they raise?
        Trampoline ......
        There is no such private engine. And corporations will not give up their achievements, competition.
    4. mark2
      mark2 10 October 2014 18: 31
      0
      Correctly. The longer it will be cheaper, the less likely it will be to come up with something new)
  9. Stoler
    Stoler 10 October 2014 10: 09
    +3
    Well, what's the use of these super-duper satellites when American intelligence takes its "intelligence" from the Internet?
  10. Retarg
    Retarg 10 October 2014 10: 09
    -2
    If Americans are so stupid, why do they somehow own more than half of the world?

    About the engines:
    Why spend money and production capacity on engines that were developed back in the 80s?
    Saved money and production capacity can be used to develop new generation engines.
    1. 2sila
      2sila 10 October 2014 11: 11
      +2
      And where can one look at this big half of the world?
      Where does it exist?
      Or is it just a potion?
      They cannot make such an engine. When they mix the components in their chamber, an explosion occurs, and then, when they achieve stable combustion, it is not effective for them and has low traction characteristics. They cannot repeat our technology of the 80s.
      1. saag
        saag 10 October 2014 11: 41
        +9
        Quote: 2sila
        They cannot make such an engine. When they mix the components in their chamber, an explosion occurs, and then, when they achieve stable combustion, it is not effective for them and has low traction characteristics. They cannot repeat our technology of the 80s.


        Maybe they can't, but the telescope in orbit is their work, missions to Mars too, "new horizons" are also they, missions to the Moon, Cassini and Huygens, but the same voyager is still working, and in the Russian Federation the Luna Globe is postponed to 2018 year...
        1. 2sila
          2sila 10 October 2014 14: 02
          +3
          So talk about engines .....
          And you somehow forgot about our missions to Venus, Mars, Jupiter. And so, in general, we were the first to photograph Venus. And all this was long before the 80s.
          And the telescope is a joint project with ESA, they alone could not cope, there was not enough money and the mirror therefore reduced everything.
          We are the only ones who can now deliver astronauts to the ISS and this is a fact.
          1. Retarg
            Retarg 10 October 2014 16: 51
            0
            We are the only ones who can now deliver astronauts to the ISS and this is a fact.


            Not a fact, since several times cosmonauts were delivered by private traders to the ISS.
            1. mark2
              mark2 10 October 2014 18: 42
              +1
              Did you call a taxi to the ISS?) Wai, daragh! Where do you say, Davez. Show me your dear!
            2. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 10 October 2014 19: 11
              +5
              Quote: Retarg
              Not a fact, since several times cosmonauts were delivered by private traders to the ISS.

              It is interesting and on what did they do it? Does Baron von Munchausen borrow the core? lol
              But seriously, then SpaceShipOne, a private suborbital manned spacecraft that "rode only space tourists" by jumping 50 miles up and then gliding to the airfield. The maximum speed of the spacecraft at this moment is 3 km / h (M 500), which is significantly less than the first space speed of 3,09 km / h (28 km / s), which is required to enter a near-earth orbit. He did not deliver anyone to the ISS. Cargo - delivered. There are no people!
              And here is the official conclusion:
              "According to the FAI, SpaceShipOne pilots are not astronauts, as for this the spacecraft must complete at least one orbit around the Earth at an altitude of over 100 km."
              However, in the United States, anyone who has flown at least on a parabolic trajectory with a maximum ascent of at least 50 miles (about 80 km) is considered an astronaut. With this approach, the Americans tried to call the first cosmonaut not Yu.A. Gagarin, and an unknown German test pilot, thrown along a suborbital trajectory on the A-10, for hitting the United States at the end of the war. In short, anything, but not Russian!
              But the Americans are not standing still. Successful Dragon flights have opened a new page in manned space exploration, and NASA has high hopes for this ship. Under a $ 1,6 billion contract between NASA and SpaceX, it is planned that these spacecraft will carry cargo, and after 2017 of the year and deliver astronauts to the ISS.
              SpaceX promises to create and certify manned modification of the Dragon ship in the 2017 year. If the company does not work out and the deadlines move, then by the 2018 year the start of the flight program to the ISS of the CST-100 spacecraft created by Boeing is scheduled. The start of operation of the new Russian manned spacecraft (PTK) is scheduled for 2020 year.
              http://izvestia.ru/news/550640#ixzz3FkrToUK5
              http://izvestia.ru/news/550640#ixzz3FkqZub3A
              1. SmileSimple
                SmileSimple 12 October 2014 19: 38
                +2
                Quote: BoA KAA
                ... the first space speed 28 400 km / h, (7,9 km / s), which necessary to enter Earth orbit


                small clarification - 1-th space velocity is needed so that the device REMAINS in near-Earth orbit, and you can climb to a height of more than 101 km at a lower speed.
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        2. mark2
          mark2 10 October 2014 18: 41
          -1
          What is the weight of the telescope? Hubble - 11 tons, the rover is several hundred kilograms. So what? they have no weight. Whether it is Angara. Weight with fuel 149 tons, engine power 212 tf. Here the whole station could be raised) yes, and why did everyone here forget about the "Angara" this is our new development!
          1. saag
            saag 10 October 2014 19: 36
            +1
            Quote: mark2
            Weight with fuel 149 tons; engine power 212 tf. Here the whole station could be raised)

            What do you say, the entire Soyuz with fuel somewhere around 350 tons, but it only throws a manned spacecraft with astronauts, or a truck with two tons of cargo, so a rocket weighing 149 tons will not launch any station, a satellite into low orbit, or something then light to elliptical
      2. Uncle
        Uncle 10 October 2014 13: 22
        +2
        Quote: 2sila
        They cannot repeat our technology of the 80s.

        Yes, we ourselves cannot repeat them!
      3. Alexey1
        Alexey1 10 October 2014 19: 37
        +1
        Jet thrust technology has reached the limit in order to increase thrust by a certain percentage, it is necessary to increase the pressure and temperature in the combustion chamber, and these are new super strong, refractory materials, capillary cooling systems and much more. When creating any equipment with certain characteristics, it is necessary to find a compromise, mainly in weight and strength.
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 10 October 2014 11: 15
      +8
      Quote: Retarg
      If Americans are so stupid, why do they somehow own more than half of the world?

      As for space, Russia has lagged significantly behind 25 years, a couple of failed projects, mostly commercial delivery, out of achievements.
    3. mark2
      mark2 10 October 2014 18: 33
      0
      in the meantime, these savings will be spent on suspicious KB owned by the right people, what will we fly on?)
  11. Mooh
    Mooh 10 October 2014 10: 14
    +2
    The most disgusting article of the week, a little information, but discussions about stupid Russians in bulk. I even want to put a minus right.
  12. iwakura
    iwakura 10 October 2014 10: 16
    +4
    I do not understand what the article is about. The fact that our satellites are losing to American ones, I already knew - no one invested in them for 3 decades, and our current industry and a simple cheap household digital "soap box" cannot create.

    So the conclusions in the article where? what is all this written for?
    1. Goodmen
      Goodmen 10 October 2014 12: 00
      +4
      Quote: iwakura
      So the conclusions in the article where? what is all this written for?


      Just another problem voiced. 3 to 31. And the quality of processing / transmitting information.

      What about the conclusions? What are the conclusions? Money should be invested in space technologies and the industry should be developed. And to spend money not "effectively", but wisely. That's all the conclusions.

      I wish I could find money for this ...
      1. Uncle
        Uncle 10 October 2014 13: 25
        +3
        Quote: Goodmen
        I wish I could find money for this ...

        There is plenty of money, however, there are many who want to stick to it. And also all sorts of saboteurs that spoil what they did. So rockets and satellites are falling, Glonass will not work in any way ... And where is the landing? Where is the FSB?
    2. mark2
      mark2 10 October 2014 18: 44
      +1
      And what are the conclusions? For whom? The article is not ours
  13. kolobok63
    kolobok63 10 October 2014 10: 47
    -3
    The author of the article just wanted to mock Russia a little bit! It has long been known that the one who laughs last laughs well ...
  14. Manul
    Manul 10 October 2014 11: 15
    +5
    But it seems useful information to me. Yes, it makes me sad. But knowing the real state of affairs is much more useful than UrMegakrutoNo analogs. The only thing is Kutsay’s article. Either you don’t dig up more information, or you just wanted to troll us. But here are the figures. We’ll just catch up on the sly. get down from the mountain, as they say .. wassat
  15. Manul
    Manul 10 October 2014 11: 52
    +5
    He looked into Wikipedia, which I disliked .. Somehow, the number of our satellites didn’t fit in with the article. And something like Legends of the navel would tear everyone to do. And we’ll someday do it abruptly! soldier

    Soviet and Russian military satellites:
    Navigation spacecraft
    Cyclone / Cyclone-B Cyclone (Bay) · Sail
    GLONASS Glonass · Glonass-M · Glonass-K
    Altair SR relay satellite.svg
    Communication spacecraft on GSO Ray (Altair) • Ray-2 (Helios) • Stream (Geyser) • Rainbow (Edge) • Rainbow-1 (Globe) • Rainbow-1M (Globe-1M) • Harpoon
    Communication spacecraft on VEO Lightning-1 + • Lightning-1T • Lightning-2 • Lightning-3 • Lightning-3K • Meridian
    Communication spacecraft in other orbits Arrow
    SPA
    Zenit Zenit-2 (-2M) · Zenit-4 (-4M / 4MK / 4MKM) · Zenit-4MT (Orion) · Zenit-6U · Zenit-8 (Look) ·
    “Amber” Amber-2K (“Phoenix”) · Amber-4K1 (“Octane”) · Amber-1KFT (“Comet”, “Silhouette”) · Amber-4K2 (“Cobalt”) · Amber-4KS1 (“Terylene” ) · Amber-4KS1M ("Neman") · Amber-4K2M ("Cobalt-M")
    Orlets-Orlets-1 (Don) · Orlets-2 (Yenisei)
    Other Persona · Araks (Arkon)
    Electronic intelligence spacecraft
    "Tselina" Tselina-O · Tselina-D · Tselina-R · Tselina-2
    ICRC "Legend" US-P · US-A
    Liana Lotus-S · Peony-NKS
    Diamond-T Cosmos-1870 · Diamond-1A · Diamond-1V
    ICBM Launch Detection Spacecraft Oko spacecraft at VEO • Oko-S spacecraft at GSO • Oko-1 • Tundra (KA)
  16. IAlex
    IAlex 10 October 2014 11: 58
    +2
    Well, you can’t but rejoice that he wrote an article about the Russian Federation. This means that the empire was given in the ass, since she even paid attention ...
    1. Alibekulu
      Alibekulu 10 October 2014 12: 12
      0
      Quote: IAlex
      Well, you can’t but rejoice that he wrote an article about the Russian Federation. This means that the empire was given in the ass, since she even paid attention ...
      Uh-huh. And now more, throw your cap into the air, shouting: "Hurray! Hurray!" fool laughing
      1. IAlex
        IAlex 10 October 2014 13: 26
        0
        What do you care about the problems of our oligarchs? Kazakhstan is not the Russian Federation, incl. live quietly ... negative
  17. Gregory 21
    Gregory 21 10 October 2014 12: 16
    +7
    AND EVERYTHING IS SO MUCH ALERTED IN THIS ARTICLE.
  18. shinobi
    shinobi 10 October 2014 12: 17
    +2
    They are trying to inspire the layman what kind of Russia is backward. You guys will decide how something is. If the Russian Federation is like that, then your soldiers are afraid of diarrhea like that?
  19. dzau
    dzau 10 October 2014 12: 17
    +4
    Russia lives in the eighties

    Nothing. To the Endos, our eighties will soon seem like a sweet paradise.

    What about the economy and the imbalance between "color" and "white" fertility? How are things with education, medicine? Infrastructure in towns like Detroit, employment, sanitation, crime?

    In the Russian Federation, meanwhile, the basic problems, although not resolved, are stabilized at an acceptable level. There is neither a catastrophic debt, nor a catastrophic dependence on the "suction" of nishtyaks from other countries (from where the pendants are being forced out). There is no degeneration of a nation replaced by a fauna that does not understand what it is, where it comes from and what it is for: for every 10 workaholics, scientists and engineers who once provided an industrial boom, they will soon have 100 stupid monkeys.

    With resources even better: Russia has enough resources for hundreds of years. And no one in their right mind would stretch a paw to them if they had nuclear weapons.

    Those. in a strategic perspective, Russia has all ***.

    Therefore, it is not clear: should we cry from such articles?

    In terms of simple expediency, photo intelligence is hardly critical for us: all this costs considerable resources, money. Russia seems to have no need to drive the Papuans through the savannahs, pointing missiles pointwise. These are plug ends for each barrel.

    We are critical early warning systems, air defense, strategic missile forces, nuclear submarines. We seem to have them. Not in perfect but viable condition. So money and resources go there.

    Why twitch? ..
    1. Retarg
      Retarg 10 October 2014 17: 07
      +2
      What about the economy and the imbalance between "color" and "white" fertility? How are things with education, medicine? Infrastructure in towns like Detroit, employment, sanitation, crime?


      Everything is in order, not as sad as you think.

      In the Russian Federation, meanwhile, the basic problems, although not resolved, are stabilized at an acceptable level.


      They fell out of the information space due to events in Ukraine.

      There is neither a catastrophic debt, nor a catastrophic dependence on the "suction" of nishtyaks from other countries (from where the pendants are being forced out).


      But the stagnation of the economy began, the dollar and the euro rose by as much as 10 rubles (which led to the ruin of tour operators), the pension fund was stolen. Everything is fine as usual.

      There is no degeneration of the nation, replaced by a fauna that does not understand what it is, where and why it is: for every 10 workaholics, scientists and engineers who once provided an industrial boom, they will soon have 100 stupid monkeys.


      But in the Russian Federation for more than 20 years there has already been a total replacement of the titular nation (Russians) by migrant workers and residents of other non-Russian regions, and by 1 engineer there are 100 monkeys with managerial diplomas.

      With resources even better: Russia has enough resources for hundreds of years. And no one in their right mind would stretch a paw to them if they had nuclear weapons.


      With such exports, we will end our oil in 40 years. And there are almost no uranium deposits in the Russian Federation. There are not many rare-earth metals (necessary for electronics).
      And why fight if you can buy for paper? And if you grease the elite and in general you can ruin the country, and in general even eat ass resources.

      Those. in a strategic perspective, Russia has all ***.

      The economy sagged, it is planned to reduce salaries to state employees and pay the next part of the pension funded. year will not be. In the long run, everything is fine, but not for us.

      In terms of simple expediency, photo intelligence is hardly critical for us: all this costs considerable resources, money. Russia seems to have no need to drive the Papuans through the savannahs, pointing missiles pointwise. These are plug ends for each barrel.


      That's right, why do we need intelligence and technology and progress, we will be out the old fashioned way.

      We are critical early warning systems, air defense, strategic missile forces, nuclear submarines. We seem to have them. Not in perfect but viable condition. So money and resources go there.


      Yeah, the whole country will be burned out by a nuclear strike, but Moscow will stand on its own.

      Why twitch? ..


      In addition, your entire ideal picture is broken up into reality, which says exactly the same thing but with a minus sign.
      1. dzau
        dzau 11 October 2014 02: 26
        +1
        Quote: Retarg
        Everything is in order, not as sad as you think.
        What, the boys paid the state debt?

        Quote: Retarg
        the stagnation of the economy began, the dollar and the euro rose by as much as 10 rubles (which led to the ruin of tour operators), the pension fund was stolen. Everything is fine as usual.
        Yes, even up to a hundred. Passed in much worse conditions: remember, default and the 98th year. Is someone dead?

        in the Russian Federation, for more than 20 years already, there has been a total replacement of the titular nation (Russians) by guest workers and residents of other non-Russian regions
        In the Russian Federation there is a migration of their own former fellow citizens in the USSR. Labor. "Title" from this has not gone anywhere. In the case of the states, my dear, it is precisely the degeneration of the "title" that is going on. Do you see the difference?

        With such exports, we will end our oil in 40 years. And there are almost no uranium deposits in the Russian Federation. There are not many rare-earth metals (necessary for electronics).
        And why fight if you can buy for paper? And if you grease the elite and in general you can ruin the country, and in general even eat ass resources.

        That's it, that's it. "Explored reserves" and "reserves" - are you even familiar with these terms? Who told you that there are no uranium and rare earths? Well, let's quickly run to fill the gaps in economic geography.

        As for the "cut paper": how long is it left for this paper? With such a pace of "softening" and the transition of other countries to trade in their currencies? With the "elites" - to the banana land.

        The economy sagged, planned reduction of salaries to state employees
        This is not a strategic perspective.

        why do we need intelligence and technology and progress, we will be out the old fashioned way.
        Spending wild money on something that is not absolutely necessary is stupid nonsense.

        Yeah, the whole country will be burned out by a nuclear strike, but Moscow will stand on its own.
        Again, some nonsense: who will burn out? The exchange of blows is ashes and a blessed memory to all living things. Even the Papuans on a distant island will not be saved. Well, again: who? Have you at least 14 years old, dear?

        the picture is broken about reality
        The country is worth. 1/7 sushi. Everything is. Strategic Rocket Forces on duty. Children are born and grow. Where is what crashed?
    2. slavaslava556
      slavaslava556 10 October 2014 18: 10
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      What to twitch already? Moreover, when the ruble (national currency) dives so steeply behind the satellites.
      What happens to the ruble when the CBR stops trading in it
      The Central Bank of Russia spends hundreds of millions of dollars a day in the market to support the falling ruble, journalist Andrei Ostroukh writes in the blog The Wall Street Journal, "but the fight lasts only until 18:00 Moscow time." When the working day of traders of the Central Bank ends, the ruble is released to float until the next day.

      This week in the evenings, after the Central Bank left the market, there were sharp depreciations.

      "According to traders, in the last few days the Central Bank has been the main seller of foreign currency on the exchange," the correspondent reports. Russian exporters are holding back the currency, while other major players avoid buying the ruble.

      "When the Central Bank stops its intervention, the market becomes very shallow, and there is almost no one to satisfy the demand for foreign currency, if it arises. Only a few are at risk. Previously, foreign investment banks did it, but now they, of course, have no limits for trading the Russian ruble. ", - says Sergey Romanchuk (Metallinvestbank).

      Source: The Wall Street Journal
  20. Alexander
    Alexander 10 October 2014 13: 17
    +4
    Quote: Balamyt
    But on the ISS so far only on Russian ships!


    The ISS is the degenerated Mir-2 project, it was not just Russia that just built it. Because there all the ideas are ours.
  21. chinArmy
    chinArmy 10 October 2014 13: 21
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    When will Russia reach the level of the USSR in the 80 years.
    What do our politicians do, where do they lead the country
  22. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 10 October 2014 14: 48
    +1
    There are hundreds of pretty competent and experienced satellite observer enthusiasts who can quickly exchange information thanks to the Internet and this community has an impressive track record in identifying satellites whose owners do not even allow their existence.


    I can imagine how happy the CIA, FSB, MOSSAD are with these amateurs.
  23. Dormidont2
    Dormidont2 10 October 2014 15: 15
    -1
    Quote: Turik
    What are you guys talking about? What does the Americans have to do with it?

    If our companions swim under water, what does the Yankee have to do with it? You need to look for your crucifixes. If we have only 3 satellites, and they have 31, this should in any case speak of something.

    that's right, they find money for the Olympics, and for the army of bureaucrats of millionaires, but there is no army on the "eyes" ... it's time to switch from satellites to space UAVs (micro Burans), which could hover over any area.
  24. Idolum
    Idolum 10 October 2014 16: 03
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    Damn, see the flight path, who is waiting !!!!!!!! ALYASOCHKA there is Che And A ????????
  25. prorab_ak
    prorab_ak 10 October 2014 16: 53
    -1
    Quote: dzau
    Russia lives in the eighties

    Nothing. To the Endos, our eighties will soon seem like a sweet paradise.

    What about the economy and the imbalance between "color" and "white" fertility? How are things with education, medicine? Infrastructure in towns like Detroit, employment, sanitation, crime?

    In the Russian Federation, meanwhile, the basic problems, although not resolved, are stabilized at an acceptable level. There is neither a catastrophic debt, nor a catastrophic dependence on the "suction" of nishtyaks from other countries (from where the pendants are being forced out). There is no degeneration of a nation replaced by a fauna that does not understand what it is, where it comes from and what it is for: for every 10 workaholics, scientists and engineers who once provided an industrial boom, they will soon have 100 stupid monkeys.

    With resources even better: Russia has enough resources for hundreds of years. And no one in their right mind would stretch a paw to them if they had nuclear weapons.

    Those. in a strategic perspective, Russia has all ***.

    Therefore, it is not clear: should we cry from such articles?

    In terms of simple expediency, photo intelligence is hardly critical for us: all this costs considerable resources, money. Russia seems to have no need to drive the Papuans through the savannahs, pointing missiles pointwise. These are plug ends for each barrel.

    We are critical early warning systems, air defense, strategic missile forces, nuclear submarines. We seem to have them. Not in perfect but viable condition. So money and resources go there.

    Why twitch? ..

    What do you smoke brother? Share! wink
    1. Retarg
      Retarg 10 October 2014 17: 10
      +2
      Something downhole laughing
  26. KERTAK
    KERTAK 10 October 2014 18: 00
    +1
    It’s high time to increase the contingent of spy satellites in orbit. also electronic control radio for the development of domestic drones
  27. Stinger
    Stinger 10 October 2014 18: 18
    +1
    Judging by the published images of American satellites with "evidence" of Russia's involvement in the Boeing crash in dill, the states have something to be proud of. We do not have such filters that see Putin's intrigues on optics.
  28. Libra
    Libra 10 October 2014 20: 13
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    Quote: Turik
    What are you guys talking about? What does the Americans have to do with it?

    If our companions swim under water, what does the Yankee have to do with it? You need to look for your crucifixes. If we have only 3 satellites, and they have 31, this should in any case speak of something.


    filling the satellites read where it came from and you will understand why- liberals tried here like with the Mistrals, just a little hello what are we doing
  29. Mikhail Zubarev
    Mikhail Zubarev 10 October 2014 21: 14
    +1
    Oooh yes this is a trash)))))) Amer accountants counted all their devices, all appointments. And ours only 3 optical reconnaissance))) And their sources are just cool. "There are hundreds of fairly competent and experienced amateur satellite watchers who, thanks to the Internet, could quickly exchange information and this community has an impressive track record in identifying satellites whose owners do not even admit their existence. "
  30. andrey682006
    andrey682006 10 October 2014 23: 46
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: saag
    maybe it’ll just be more expensive, that’s

    Not more expensive. Private traders are cheaper today. They will soon pick up a heavy rocket.

    Let's talk about it when they get it up. And how about Russian missiles - so "prototypes", but about their sponsors - so "they will soon understand." "Soon" is when? Private traders are always cheaper when they count and advertise their products. And then it turns out that "you wouldn't be chasing cheap priest ..."
    1. Professor
      Professor 11 October 2014 10: 11
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      Quote: andrey682006
      Let's talk about it when they raise

      The light one has already been lifted, and kg of the cargo put into orbit from these bourgeois is cheaper than from Russia and even China. Raise and heavy.


      Quote: andrey682006
      Private traders are always cheaper when they count and advertise their products. And then it turns out that "you wouldn't be chasing cheap priest ..."

      This is not an advertisement. Here is the real price list of the actual product.
  31. andrey682006
    andrey682006 11 October 2014 00: 05
    +1
    Well, as usual in the Anglo-Saxon press - a loud headline and a pale article are not clear about what.
  32. Tjeck
    Tjeck 12 October 2014 04: 13
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    There is one simple question for the author: how did you find out whose satellite is better if, apart from the dimensions and weight, all information is classified?
  33. gameover_65
    gameover_65 12 October 2014 13: 52
    +1
    even if this is so, then he is in no way spyware, he is intelligence.
    our scout, and the enemy is a spy.
    if the Russian satellite falls, then naturally a spy, but if the Amer or Geyrope falls, then it is necessarily a meteo or other scientific one. lol
    1. Prager
      Prager 2 November 2014 15: 08
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      I completely agree with your comment to the last word. There is nothing to add.