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Estonia intends to purchase Javelin ATGM in the US

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The other day, the US Department of Defense Military Cooperation Agency (DSCA) sent a formal notification to Congress that it intends to sell a batch of Javelin anti-tank complexes worth $ 55 million to the Republic of Estonia. This information was published by the blog bmpd.




It is reported that the supply will «120 launchers (CLU) ATGM" Javelin "integrated around the clock sights, 350 antitank missiles FGM-148 series, 102 fitness shot" Missile Simulation Rounds (MSR) "and 16 fitness complexes" Enhanced Performance Basic Skills Trainers (EPBST) "". It manufactures Javelin complexes of the same name enterprise formed by Raytheon and Lockheed Martin corporations.

Notify Congress of the upcoming sale weapons requires US law. After receiving the document, Congress has the right to block the deal within 30 days (for NATO countries - 15 days). If this does not happen, then the parties are entitled to conclude an intergovernmental agreement on the supply.

According to bmpd, Estonia will become the 18 operator of the Javelin complex. Deliveries are scheduled for 2016.
Photos used:
bmpd.livejournal.com
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  1. pensioner
    pensioner 9 October 2014 14: 13
    10
    Ah ... Another glass member for dowels ...
    1. Nevsky_ZU
      Nevsky_ZU 9 October 2014 14: 17
      +8
      It is reported that the delivery will include "120 launchers (CLU) ATGM" Javelin "with integrated round-the-clock sights, 350 anti-tank missiles of the FGM-148 series, 102 training rounds" Missile Simulation Rounds (MSR) "and 16 training complexes" Enhanced Performance Basic Skills Trainers (EPBST) "". It produces complexes "Javelin" by the enterprise of the same name, formed by the corporations "Raytheon" and "Lockheed Martin".


      Why does Estonia have so much dough, are there problems in the economy?
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 9 October 2014 14: 32
        11
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU

        Why does Estonia have so much dough, are there problems in the economy?




        Acts, the Ukrainian mess to revive NATO.

        Immediately the money appears among the allies, and the American military-industrial complex is rubbing its hands.


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      3. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 9 October 2014 14: 41
        0
        Quote: Nevsky_ZU

        Why does Estonia have so much dough, are there problems in the economy?

        Like a couple of years, everything is not very bad.
        1. ultra
          ultra 9 October 2014 14: 46
          +8
          Not bad, only fewer and fewer people remain in this "not bad".
          1. Telakh
            Telakh 9 October 2014 14: 51
            +9
            All American weapons are sold for American loans under it.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 9 October 2014 14: 31
      +4
      Mattresses are arming the Baltic states, which means they have plans to conduct military operations in the Baltic states.
      1. nfoma80
        nfoma80 9 October 2014 15: 03
        +5
        Apparently to stop the Russian tank hordes.
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    4. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 9 October 2014 14: 42
      +5
      Quote: retired
      Ah ... Another glass member for dowels ...

      This is you in vain. With good preparation of the calculations, more than a serious replenishment for VET in Estonia.
      1. ultra
        ultra 9 October 2014 14: 47
        +7
        Are they going to defend themselves from Latvians? So they have a tank like one left? laughing
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 9 October 2014 15: 15
          +9
          Estonia, another country wassat :
          1. Siberia 9444
            Siberia 9444 9 October 2014 18: 07
            +1
            This is a car! He rides faster than they say. lol
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        2. Viktor Kudinov
          Viktor Kudinov 9 October 2014 16: 14
          +2
          E-estontsaam naado to these kkkomlksaam kuupit and taanki, for a training of anti-tankistof.
      2. pensioner
        pensioner 9 October 2014 15: 21
        +4
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        This is you in vain. With good preparation of the calculations, more than a serious replenishment for VET in Estonia.

        Question: Who is threatening this Estonia ?? what The point is in the purchase of such modern weapons by Estonia, if its "army", by definition, can not carry out anything more ambitious than police operations ?? Of course, I don't care about their business, but just recently their prime minister complained a lot about the fall of the agricultural sector ... And finally, I don't just have software, but software. Europygmies. On the map of Europe, the place is in vain ...
        1. roman_pilot
          roman_pilot 9 October 2014 18: 50
          +1
          or to us as a gift, or the National Guard will secretly tell us that it can also be a gift to us, as with the last batch
    5. 222222
      222222 9 October 2014 15: 20
      +2
      The report on the sale of missiles to Estonia by the US agency also said: "" "This proposed sale will contribute to the foreign policy and national security of the United States by helping to improve the security of a NATO ally. smile

      The proposed sale will improve Estonia’s ability to counter current and future threats and provide greater security for its critical infrastructure. Estonia will use the enhanced opportunities to strengthen its defense. It will not be difficult for Estonia to adapt these missiles to its armed forces.

      The proposed sale of this equipment and support will not change the basic military balance in the region. laughing

      The main contractors will be the Raytheon / Lockheed Martin Javelin Joint Venture in Orlando, Florida and Tucson, ""
  2. Abbra
    Abbra 9 October 2014 14: 14
    0
    The complex can only fire at targets in direct line of sight, which casts doubt on its advantages over the 2nd generation ATGM (Metis-M, Cornet) at distances of more than 1000 meters. But at the same time, it must be borne in mind that at such a distance hand grenade launchers can only hit lightly armored targets. To destroy modern tanks, a heavy grenade is required, with a range of about 200 meters, in addition, most of them have problems with the defeat of modern tanks in the frontal projection, which makes their use extremely difficult.
    1. aleks 62
      aleks 62 9 October 2014 14: 18
      +1
      ...... And why ma-ah-a-little Estonia PTRK ???? recourse
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 9 October 2014 14: 24
        +5
        Quote: aleks 62
        ...... And why ma-ah-a-scarlet Estonia ATGM

        Clear stump, intend to defend. That's just from whom ...
        1. And Us Rat
          And Us Rat 9 October 2014 14: 44
          +8
          Quote: novobranets
          Quote: aleks 62
          ...... And why ma-ah-a-scarlet Estonia ATGM

          Clear stump, intend to defend. That's just from whom ...


          The stump is clear from whom, from "blood-shattering rusen goldaten" fellow , they sacredly believe that Putin will certainly come to capture them! fellow laughing
          1. novobranets
            novobranets 9 October 2014 17: 18
            +3
            Quote: And Us Rat
            they firmly believe that Putin will certainly come to capture them!

            Oh sure. How could I forget, Putin is sleeping and sees how he is going to conquer Estonia, he just can not find it on the map.
      2. Juborg
        Juborg 9 October 2014 14: 43
        +5
        They decided to attack Russia, as in the famous video, four people from the northeast, six people with the Javelin ATGM from the south (from Kazakhstan!), Three more from the Mongolian steppes, well, two people each but the same with ATGM " Javelin "will disembark from a decommissioned submarine rented from Bulgaria. Here is a plan to capture and subjugate Russia. I probably did not take into account something, for example, the unification of the armed forces of the Baltic states suffering from various kinds of Russophobia. Perhaps the sprats found a market for their sprats, somewhere in Ethiopia, and with the proceeds they decided to fulfill the dream of all the Balts and bring Russia to its knees, probably with the help of these Javelin ATGMs.
        As you know, this is a banter, but with a grain of truth. And what is this share ?!
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 9 October 2014 14: 34
      +6
      Quote: Abbra
      in addition, most of them have problems with the defeat of modern tanks in the frontal projection, which makes their use extremely difficult.



      The missile has two target attack modes: dive mode (dive angle 45 °) and direct attack in the horizontal plane. The first mode is used when acting against tanks and allows you to hit the target from above in the least protected areaThe second is against protected objects (such as a bunker, bunker, bunker) and helicopters.
    3. saag
      saag 9 October 2014 15: 47
      +2
      Quote: Abbra
      To destroy modern tanks, a heavy grenade is required, with a range of about 200 meters, in addition, most of them have problems with the defeat of modern tanks in the frontal projection, which makes their use extremely difficult.

      Javelin hits from above
    4. Nayhas
      Nayhas 9 October 2014 17: 30
      +3
      Quote: Abbra
      The complex can only fire at targets in direct line of sight, which casts doubt on its advantages over the 2nd generation ATGM (Metis-M, Cornet) at distances of more than 1000 meters.

      Those. in your opinion Metis-M and Cornet can be used for purposes that are not visible? What kind of nonsense are you writing? What do you even know about these ATGMs? In these ATGMs, the missile is guided at the target by a laser beam, ask yourself if you need a "line of sight to the target"? How are you going to aim at a target without seeing it?
      In Javelin, Metis-M and Kornet anti-tank systems for detecting and aiming at a target, electron-optical devices having multiplicity and the ability to identify the target by thermal radiation are used. The difference between them is only in the guidance system and principle.
    5. Dan4eG
      Dan4eG 9 October 2014 19: 51
      -1
      The complex can only fire at targets in direct line of sight, which casts doubt on its advantages over the 2nd generation ATGM (Metis-M, Cornet) at distances of more than 1000 meters.

      Don’t be bothered, Cornet goes along the laser beam, and Metis along the wires! In Javelin, he was brought in, shot, and you can fuck from there!
    6. Professor
      Professor 9 October 2014 21: 32
      -1
      Quote: Abbra
      The complex can only fire at targets in direct line of sight, which casts doubt on its advantages over the 2nd generation ATGM (Metis-M, Cornet) at distances of more than 1000 meters.

      And Metis-M, Cornet does not require line of sight? Or makes a slide like Javelin?

      Quote: Abbra
      But at the same time, it must be borne in mind that at such a distance hand grenade launchers can only hit lightly armored targets.

      What does a grenade launcher have to do with it?
  3. Alexey M
    Alexey M 9 October 2014 14: 16
    +2
    Estonia intends to purchase Javelin ATGMs in the USA.
    Once again, the ass was licked by amers. And what? Brains still do not go with Javelin.
    1. Bersaglieri
      Bersaglieri 9 October 2014 14: 37
      +4
      Estonia is in NATO. Purchases standardized samples. What is so unusual here?
      1. zennon
        zennon 9 October 2014 16: 08
        +1
        Quote: Bersaglieri
        What is so unusual here?

        Yes, in general, nothing. It’s only a little expensive - $ 50 per set. At the same time, it is quite bulky and heavy - more than 000 kg. It is ineffective for punching frame walls (reinforced concrete or brick). In general, it is ineffective against bunkers, and protected targets. Cooling of NVD (Night Vision Sight) requires 22-2,5 minutes. The minimum range of 3,5 meters. In the city is problematic. And so everything is good. laughing
        1. Bersaglieri
          Bersaglieri 10 October 2014 00: 21
          0
          This is another question.
          The main task of the Estonian army is to demonstrate the presence of weapons at the Republic Day parade. Well, contain 1-2 companies of peacekeepers (to participate in joint operations somewhere in the Land of Evil Zusulov). All.
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  4. IAlex
    IAlex 9 October 2014 14: 16
    +1
    Well, Estonia is rich, maybe something else will bribe ...
  5. bmv04636
    bmv04636 9 October 2014 14: 20
    0
    As I understand it, the more electronics the more ammunition stock becomes more vulnerable to electronic warfare and weapons of electromagnetic radiation
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 9 October 2014 14: 43
      +3
      Quote: bmv04636
      As I understand it, the more electronics the more ammunition stock becomes more vulnerable to electronic warfare and weapons of electromagnetic radiation

      You can’t attach to each tank battalion of electronic warfare.
    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 9 October 2014 17: 39
      +2
      Quote: bmv04636
      As I understand it, the more electronics the more ammunition stock becomes more vulnerable to electronic warfare and weapons of electromagnetic radiation

      Undoubtedly! You still forgot about a bucket with nuts in orbit of American satellites, a sure remedy against anti-tank systems!
  6. Semen Semyonitch
    Semen Semyonitch 9 October 2014 14: 25
    +5
    Estonia intends to purchase Javelin ATGM in the US

    This fundamentally changes the balance of power in the region ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 9 October 2014 14: 44
      -1
      Quote: Semen Semenych
      Estonia intends to purchase Javelin ATGM in the US
      This fundamentally changes the balance of power in the region ...

      not. But this will undoubtedly increase the losses of the BTV RA if it needs to occupy Estonia.
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 9 October 2014 15: 22
        11
        But this will undoubtedly increase the losses of the BTV RA if it needs to occupy Estonia.

        Does she need it?
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      3. aleks 62
        aleks 62 9 October 2014 15: 57
        +4
        RA, if she needs to occupy Estonia .....

        ..... And she (RF) need it ???? winked
      4. IAlex
        IAlex 9 October 2014 16: 53
        0
        And how will this help against hail, bombs and shells? In addition, especially having forgiven screens both side and tower?
      5. Semen Semyonitch
        Semen Semyonitch 9 October 2014 17: 12
        0
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        if she needs to occupy Estonia.


        Are you full? lol Not, of course, the noble karamultuk, no doubt ... Remember the anecdote, the fly was cut ??? laughing
        1. Aaron Zawi
          Aaron Zawi 9 October 2014 17: 45
          -1
          Quote: Semen Semenych
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          if she needs to occupy Estonia.

          Are you full? lol Not, of course, the noble karamultuk, no doubt ... Remember the anecdote, the fly was cut ??? laughing

          quite. The t / e result will be the same, but the question to the forces that will attract for this is another. And then who in this world knows what the Kremlin will decide tomorrow? Such analysts have not yet been invented.
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 9 October 2014 19: 49
            +1
            Quote: Aaron Zawi
            And then who in this world knows what the Kremlin will decide tomorrow? Such analysts have not yet been invented.


            It depends on what the White House comes up with today


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    2. Nayhas
      Nayhas 9 October 2014 17: 37
      0
      Quote: Semyon Semyonich
      This fundamentally changes the balance of power in the region ...

      C'mon, not that amount ..
  7. blind
    blind 9 October 2014 14: 26
    +3
    I must admit that today the Jewel Spear is the best and most modern portable weapon of the 3rd generation with almost 100% target damage from any angle. the charge falls on the target vertically from the top to places not covered by armor; in addition, a shot from the discharge pulnul and forgot that it was a very formidable weapon, but unfortunately we don’t have such a terrible weapon.
    1. belovur
      belovur 9 October 2014 14: 30
      +3
      And why is it connected to the 286th computer? laughing
    2. Cherdak
      Cherdak 9 October 2014 15: 51
      +2
      Quote: blind
      pulnul from the category and forgot te reeled off from a position


      The original interpretation. Maybe it's easier to hit the road first?

      # I have a suspicion that the Estonians will quietly throw them to the Outskirts, like "friendly help".

      And the painfully couch troops of adjacent quasi-formation were already excited:

      Can't wait for this to be used against russian tanks, when russia tries to invade something else than ukraine.
      1. blind
        blind 9 October 2014 16: 32
        +1
        ukrov already have militias already seized several
        1. asar
          asar 9 October 2014 17: 24
          0
          Quote: blind
          ukrov already have militias already seized several

          But this is a "different category" question!
          Estonia is in NATO, but dill NOT!
          Where do the "firewood" and dill come from ?!
          Besides, it seems like the "Abrams" "work" on the "war fields" of dill (it takes time to find out!)!
        2. Bersaglieri
          Bersaglieri 10 October 2014 00: 25
          0
          Maybe after all "Stugnu" or "Corsair"?

          http://vpk.name/news/93940_ukrainskii_ptrk_korsar_neodnoznachnoe_vpechatlenie.ht
          ml
    3. typhoon7
      typhoon7 9 October 2014 15: 54
      0
      He has his own shortcomings, the goal should be in direct line of sight, this is a huge minus, and when shooting in the forehead, his effectiveness is not great.
      1. blind
        blind 9 October 2014 16: 32
        +1
        where does the projectile from above hit the target
        1. typhoon7
          typhoon7 9 October 2014 17: 05
          -1
          You are mistaken, he also hits horizontally and here his efficiency is far from good. Our anti-tank systems bypass it in all respects.
          1. Dan4eG
            Dan4eG 9 October 2014 19: 57
            -1
            You are mistaken, horizontally he hits too

            Yes, it beats, and who is going to use it against tanks? Is it horizontally against bunkers and all sorts of structures!
  8. Stinger
    Stinger 9 October 2014 14: 31
    +4
    Estonia without anti-tank systems that a whore without makeup. No respect.
  9. Neighbor
    Neighbor 9 October 2014 14: 32
    +2
    Quote: aleks 62
    ...... And why ma-ah-a-little Estonia PTRK ???? recourse

    Commerce, at first they will let the Lithuanians vilify for money, then the Latvians ...
  10. Abbra
    Abbra 9 October 2014 14: 34
    0
    In the Russian complex "Cornet" the principle of "see-shoot" and a laser-beam control system are implemented, which allows the ATGM to achieve a large maximum firing range in comparison with the western ATGM built on the principle of "shot-and-forget." Although this American dart is also a serious thing, I agree. Only figs he Estonia?
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 9 October 2014 14: 48
      +4
      Only figs he Estonia?

      Well they are terrified of Russian tanks. They were clearly shown that the ditches and wooden obstacles for the T-72 are not an obstacle, so they are worried.
    2. Professor
      Professor 9 October 2014 21: 37
      -1
      Quote: Abbra
      which allows the ATGM to achieve a large maximum firing range in comparison with the western ATGM, built on the principle of "shot-and-forget."

      Which complex hits 25 km like Spike UFO?

      Quote: Abbra
      Only figs he Estonia?

      That would green men or there all sorts of "militia" would not start.
  11. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 9 October 2014 14: 38
    +5
    Estonia intends to purchase Javelin ATGM in the US
    Probably no one has explained to Estonia that if (God forbid, of course) there is a mess, no one will attack them, it’s just one gasp on the territory to gasp for, then there’s no one to whine about the occupation. laughing
    PS You need to live in peace and harmony with your neighbors, otherwise you have found yourself a "friend" overseas. wink
  12. ISKANDER25
    ISKANDER25 9 October 2014 14: 39
    +3
    Hello! Matches (ATGM) -children (Estonians) NOT A TOY !!! laughing
  13. bogdan
    bogdan 9 October 2014 14: 40
    +3
    Estonia intends to purchase Javelin ATGM in the US

    totaling $ 55 million

    Shaw ??? As many as five pieces lol
  14. pexotinec
    pexotinec 9 October 2014 14: 43
    +3
    They can’t figure it out with one button, but then the devil’s leg will break. So for the beauty of the type, even if we have it it will be the same American. I’m looking at Estonians and I think they will soon worship the Americans. Well, everything will be mowed under them and their purchases will be the same.
  15. Federal
    Federal 9 October 2014 14: 45
    +4
    Here they can hardly drag their legs, so they also want to buy the "Javelin" ATGM. Sooovem estooonets will not be killed by yaanks.
  16. HAM
    HAM 9 October 2014 14: 56
    +2
    That's it, the end-Estonia is preparing to attack Russia! Only tanks remained in Russia, definitely ....
  17. Bormental
    Bormental 9 October 2014 15: 06
    +2
    A deeneg at brakes brakes?
  18. wanderer_032
    wanderer_032 9 October 2014 15: 07
    +8
    Of all such news, only one picture is formed.
    The United States and NATO are concentrating military forces in Eastern Europe to create an attack force on Russian borders.
    They do this gradually, military units on the territory of the Baltic states, as well as weapons and military equipment, arrive little by little, so as not to attract close attention to themselves, under various "specious" pretexts.
    From the news articles and reports passing in the media over the past 3 months from the Baltic states, Poland and other countries, it is clear that anti-Russian sentiment is actively being pumped up there, there are reasons to do this starting from the events in Crimea and the Donbas, ending the embargo on the delivery of goods from the EU to Russia .

    Thus, by the spring of 2015, a serious grouping of NATO forces will be located in Eastern Europe, and besides, training centers that prepare soldiers of the national armed forces for military operations in other territories will already operate in the countries of Eastern Europe and the Baltic states.
    Exactly the same centers are probably deployed in Ukraine, which is controlled by the junta.

    So it’s very rejoicing and joking about the information that is provided in this article, I don’t see the point.
  19. Bowless
    Bowless 9 October 2014 15: 25
    +7
    Especially for the Estonians, a variant was released - "I shot, slept, ate, forgot why I shot.)
    1. pensioner
      pensioner 9 October 2014 15: 57
      +4
      Quote: Unrestrained
      Especially for the Estonians, a variant was released - "I shot, slept, ate, forgot why I shot.)

      Well, the newest modification of this complex - "Forgot to shoot". yes
  20. TOR2
    TOR2 9 October 2014 21: 47
    +5
    Based on the video with this expensive contraption, you can shoot at the T-72, which is 75 years old and has been standing in the barn for 20 years, and then shout: "We are the best." Even a not too sophisticated computer vision complex will detect this "cheeseburger" in flight. Let's add another IR channel for complete confidence. Now the on-board computer will know about the danger, and then a matter of technology and the imagination of designers. It is understood that the tank exterior and interior will have to be supplemented. But what to do, new threats - new answers.
  21. Camouflet
    Camouflet 10 October 2014 04: 05
    0
    I didn’t read the article, the name was enough. Who are they going to let this Jewelin into? If insidious Russia attacks them, then no Jewels will help them. It is clear and a hedgehog. It looks like a banal dough drank.