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Leonid Nersisyan. What is fighting the "Islamic state" and why it can not be defeated by air strikes

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Leonid Nersisyan. What is fighting the "Islamic state" and why it can not be defeated by air strikes


The lightning offensive of the “Islamic State” in the northern and western parts of Iraq surprised and shocked the world community. In an incomprehensible way, the jihadist grouping, to which the majority did not attach much importance, invaded Iraq from Syria and occupied the largest city after Moskul after Baghdad, forcing government troops to flee, leaving the fine American weapons to the militants. No one can unambiguously explain the reason for such success — either the surprise factor played, or the combat experience gained in Syria, and the tactics used by ISIS fighters could have been developed by the disgraced officers of Saddam Hussein, many of whom were trained in the traditions of the Soviet military school. . It is interesting that it is very problematic even to know approximately what forces the militants possess and what they are armed with - the information comes in rather contradictory and inaccurate. The same applies, for example, to the Kurdish self-defense forces.

1. Total population

According to Arab sources such as Al Jazeera, from 80 to 100 there are thousands of people, of which up to 50 thousands are in Syria, and the rest are in Iraq. CIA data is more modest: according to American intelligence, the strength of ISIL ranges from 20 to 31 to thousands.

2. Rifle and portable anti-tank weapon

Presented mainly by the Soviet Kalashnikovs and the RPG-7 anti-tank grenade launchers, but there are also some American assault rifles M-16А4 captured at the defeated bases of the Iraqi government forces. In addition, the militants have anti-tank guided missiles “Konkurs” (firing range 4 km), “Fagot” (firing range 3 km) and, probably, Chinese HJ-8 ATGMs (3 km) captured from the Syrian army. An interesting fact is that the militants of the Yugoslav anti-tank grenade launchers M79 "Osa", inexplicably got into the conflict zone.

3. Light armored vehicles and trucks

“Gantracs” used by jihadists turned out to be very effective - pickups and jeeps with large-caliber machine guns and anti-aircraft gun ZU-23 mounted on them. Unlike armored vehicles, these machines have minimal fuel consumption, with very high mobility, which allows them to deliver quick and unexpected strikes in different directions. Later, after the defeat of the Iraqi army, a significant number of trophies were captured at several military bases: American Humvee jeeps, armored MRAP trucks and M113 armored personnel carriers, Soviet BTR-80 and BMP-1 / 2 armored vehicles. Some Soviet light armored vehicles were captured in Syria. The total number of only captured vehicles most likely exceeded 200 units.

4. Heavy armored vehicles

ISIS is armed with about 30 old Soviet tanks The T-55s, most likely, were repelled back in Syria, from 5 to 10 more modern T-72s, in addition, there are rumors that militants seized two or three American M1A1 Abrams tanks.

5. Artillery

The photographs from the scene of the events “lit up” with guns of different origin and calibers: the Soviet 130-mm M-46 cannon (maximum firing range of 27 km) and its Chinese copy of Type 59-1 (purchased by the army of Iraq), 122-mm howitzer D- 30 (sighting range 15 km), 155-mm American howitzer M198 (maximum range 22 km) and the well-known volley fire system “Grad”. Self-made tools and mortars are widely used. There is a photograph of the Scud-B missile system captured in Syria (300 km range), but the missile’s combat capability is questionable, as there is no evidence of its use yet.

6. Air Defense Means

The militants have a certain number of Strela and Igla MANPADS, there have also been rumors about the capture of a certain number of American Stingers, but so far this information has not been confirmed. With the help of MANPADS, jihadists have already shot down an 2 Russian Mi-35M helicopter, recently delivered to the Iraqi army. ISIS also makes extensive use of anti-aircraft guns of the ZU-23 type, but more often as a means against ground targets.

7. Aviation

There were reports of the capture of a number of US helicopters UH60 Black Hawk and Bell-IA-407 in Iraq, as well as several MiG-21 fighters in Syria, but their use in the conditions of active intervention by the NATO air forces is not possible. As you can see, the main forces of ISIS are light and mobile equipment. As a result, at the moment, the air strikes of the NATO Air Forces for the most part go to the “milk” and so far have not led to any crucial success.

Most likely, it will not be possible to repel the "Sunni" third of Iraq, controlled by ISIL, by air support alone and by the actions of Iraqi government forces.
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  1. Lopatov
    Lopatov 11 October 2014 14: 40
    +1
    http://topwar.ru/59815-chem-voyuet-islamskoe-gosudarstvo-i-pochemu-ego-ne-pobedi
    t-aviaudarami.html
    1. Sterlya
      Sterlya 11 October 2014 14: 53
      +7
      USA creates chaos all over the world, this is one of the options for the survival of mattresses, the second option is the third world that they do not want, but the bench press is all the same, they are not warriors, just robbers and murderers ...
    2. Civil
      Civil 11 October 2014 16: 12
      +12
      It is necessary to act cleverly, like China during the war of the Soviet troops with the spirits ... in words to support, but in fact to receive samples of Soviet military equipment from them in exchange for armament (it is especially interesting how the spirits were presented to the Mi-24 Chinas), therefore:
      1. It is necessary to exchange for spare parts for weapons - armored trucks MRAP, M1A1 Abrams, 155-mm American howitzer M198, UH60 Black Hawk and Bell-IA-407.
      2. Or send "mummers" Caucasian guys to get at least electronic components, especially with the UH60 Black Hawk and M1A1 Abrams.

      And there is nothing to crumble the rolls, it is necessary to work.
    3. Kostyar
      Kostyar 11 October 2014 16: 50
      +1
      In short, packaged in full!
      And information about the enemy is also not found out from the TV ... in short, everything is very strange ...
    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 11 October 2014 17: 16
      +1
      American airstrikes on the IS, still beat mosquitoes with a club, there are a lot of costs, little help.
    5. The comment was deleted.
  2. pvv113
    pvv113 11 October 2014 14: 44
    +14
    After the collapse of the ATS, the former allies woke up trading talent. Therefore, it is not surprising that the armament of the Warsaw Pact countries can be found in any hot spot.
    1. 225chay
      225chay 11 October 2014 15: 32
      +2
      Quote: pvv113
      After the collapse of the ATS, the former allies woke up trading talent. Therefore, it is not surprising that the armament of the Warsaw Pact countries can be found in any hot spot.



      Well, so did the Warsaw Pact and the USSR
      and trying to ruin Russia TRADERS!
      so there is nothing to be surprised
  3. valokordin
    valokordin 11 October 2014 14: 45
    +11
    If ISIS troops are led by Saddam officers, their successes are understandable. On the other hand, the Syrian forces are strong enough to withstand this pack, so they rushed to Baghdad, which is weaker than Assad. We cannot do without a ground operation, but we have nothing to do there, except to help Assad with all that is.
    1. Koloradovatnik
      Koloradovatnik 11 October 2014 15: 07
      +2
      That's it. Let the Americans themselves understand the porridge that they themselves brewed.
  4. Drunya
    Drunya 11 October 2014 14: 48
    +2
    Video Bridge Moscow - Delhi on the Islamic State
  5. valokordin
    valokordin 11 October 2014 14: 48
    +15
    Quote: valokordin
    We cannot do without a ground operation, but we have nothing to do there, except to help Assad with all that is.

    There is a proposal to help allies from the United States and NATO send battalions to Iraq: Aidar, Donetsk, Dnepopetrovsk, a miner, Kiev 1 and 2, and all the forces of Field Marshal Kolomoisky.
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 11 October 2014 15: 16
      0
      [quote = valokordin] [quote = valokordin] We cannot do without a ground operation, but we have nothing to do there, except to help Assad with everything that is. [/ quote]
      There is a proposal to help allies from the USA and NATO send battalions to Iraq: Aidar, Donetsk, Dnepopetrovsk, a miner, Kiev 1 and 2, and all the forces of Field Marshal Kolomoisky. [/ Quote
      Well, that's great, a cool offer. Amer always needs cannon fodder. And they’ll go to the dead bodies with their heads sewn. drinks
    2. Spnsr
      Spnsr 11 October 2014 17: 50
      +2
      Quote: valokordin
      There is a proposal to help allies from the United States and NATO send battalions to Iraq: Aidar, Donetsk, Dnepopetrovsk, a miner, Kiev 1 and 2, and all the forces of Field Marshal Kolomoisky.

      together with Kalamoisky in the form of a vandal for this rabble ... laughing
  6. Iskander 090
    Iskander 090 11 October 2014 15: 23
    +2
    all this is american aggression
  7. Vadim237
    Vadim237 11 October 2014 15: 34
    +2
    The number of ISIS groups is really more than one hundred thousand, Alkaida joined them yesterday and, in addition to everything that was listed in service, there are ATGM Javelin and Cornet, mobile cities, and given how much they earn per day selling oil, the quantity and quality of weapons will only grow .
  8. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 11 October 2014 15: 43
    +3
    Modern weapons (missiles, bombs and shells) have a very short shelf life. America is faced with the problem of disposing of a huge amount of ultra-modern warheads, missiles and bombs. Disposal of these weapons requires the same funds as for their production. Therefore, America has decided to use everything that is subject to disposal in battles with any enemy. With Syria - it did not work, in Ukraine - it did not work (Russia did not get involved in hostilities). They declared the enemy number 1 - ISIS. At the same time, tasks that are very important for America are being solved. 100% of pilots learn to shoot at objects in a real war, when the pilot must look "both ways" so as not to be shot down. Pilots gain invaluable experience, overcome fear and become aces. Support troops work out the timely delivery of weapons and aircraft refueling. Repair services - train in the repair of damaged cars. Research and development personnel - studies the impact of weapons on certain objects. At the same time, a check is being made to counter the Americans with Russian weapons. War for America is a means of maintaining its military at the highest level. And they don't need to get involved in land battles. They did not plan to fight Russia on the battlefield (so you can lose the war, like Hitler). But the war with the use of high-precision weapons to destroy infrastructure and high-tech Russian weapons - THIS IS THEIR TASK # 1. They want to drive us into the Stone Age, and then take us with their bare hands.
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 11 October 2014 16: 52
      0
      How to check land weapons without entering troops.?
      1. soviet skytourist
        soviet skytourist 11 October 2014 17: 15
        +1
        generals always prepare for the last war http://www.kpe.ru/sobytiya-i-mneniya/ocenka-tendencii-s-pozicii-kob/5014-about-w
        ar
      2. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 11 October 2014 18: 28
        0
        And land weapons can be tested in a small country, where the resistance is obviously weak, but it will still be. ISIS has already conquered a significant part of Iraq and Syria. Fighting in such a territory is very difficult. No country can currently wage a full-scale war far from its territory. The transport of even a millionth army by air, sea or road several tens of thousands of kilometers IMPOSSIBLE. There are simply not so many planes, ships or cars. The only way to solve this problem is the railway tansport. This is not the case in the Middle East. America tested the troop transfer system in the Vietnam War and has now changed its strategy for waging war.
        1. Patriot.ru.
          Patriot.ru. 11 October 2014 19: 00
          0
          That you are all America, America. We are throwing airborne forces to tens of thousands of thousands of kilometers.
  9. fed2912
    fed2912 11 October 2014 15: 46
    +2
    A sensible, informative article.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 October 2014 15: 56
    +4
    The story is reminiscent of an old joke about "Elusive Joe". What, is he really that elusive? No, nobody catches him.
    In reality, ISIS is distinguished by its determination to achieve its goals and absolute ruthlessness. This means high morale, and obviously good preparation. And the Kurds are a militia, poorly trained and armed. Their motivation should be high, but one first-rate boxer will easily beat three newbies. Until the Kurds acquire the necessary combat experience, they may already "not be enough."
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 11 October 2014 18: 32
      +2
      The Kurdish Workers' Party has combat units, which even the Turks in Turkey can’t handle. Not all Kurds are militias.
  11. Demob 2012
    Demob 2012 11 October 2014 15: 59
    +3
    The states raised the doggie, and he broke the chain and began to bite his masters. They can’t drive him back into the cage and put him on the chain, the strength is not enough. It turned out not to be chain.
    1. soviet skytourist
      soviet skytourist 11 October 2014 16: 46
      0
      why broke, he was pulled off the chain. the hosts are far away, and his partners will get during the so-called appeasement of Syria and Iraq will try to chase the dog in the right direction. Israel can be fed for the worst, while the judges cooperate with the Jews will not get to impoverish the Arabs. The BV will be controlled by Islamists and neighbors will help along the way
  12. soviet skytourist
    soviet skytourist 11 October 2014 16: 00
    +5
    the most important enemy in everyone’s head there is no help with bombs, the Russians are attacked by Hollywood - the Arabs are driven into the head by the idea of ​​a permanent revolution adapted to Islam. a war without a front line, anyone can be an enemy
  13. awersa
    awersa 11 October 2014 16: 35
    +2
    But the Americans were not foolish about Assad’s position to finance and arm, and send his instructors there, and now the situation is when the dog broke off the leash and rushed completely in the wrong direction the owner was counting ... No.
  14. Deadmen
    Deadmen 11 October 2014 16: 38
    +3
    The Anglo-Saxons, in view of the rapprochement between Russia and China, activated this plague. Not without reason, as soon as the "smell" of the restoration of a powerful alliance between Moscow and Beijing, unrest swept in the Celestial Empire and the Muslim wing rose. The goal, as always, is to weaken China, weaken Russia. Anything. It is necessary to build up close ties of intelligence and anti-terrorist organizations of Russia and China. I am sure that aggravations will begin soon in the Asian region. The recent student rally was just a trial balloon. I am sure it will again flare up in Tibet, and in long-suffering Xinjiang with their Uighurs. In Russia immediately (note) there was a terrorist attack (when a 19-year-old boy "exploded" on the frame. There will be more terrorist attacks. Dagestan is traditionally. Now you need to be more attentive than ever. The Anglo-Saxons have opened a second second front after the Ukrainian one. They understand where the kirdyk shines from, Latin countries that supported our course even worse, they can't be left alone with these ghouls.
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 11 October 2014 18: 45
      +1
      China has never been afraid of internal rebellion. Always destroyed all the rebels. Just think if you shot a million. From 1.5 billion people almost nothing will diminish.
      1. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 11 October 2014 19: 08
        0
        You probably tens of thousands in the Donbas nevermind. Give you millions.
  15. Patriot.ru.
    Patriot.ru. 11 October 2014 16: 59
    +2
    I didn’t hear what the Chinese minister said that the unrest in Hong Kong was the common idea of ​​the Orange Revolution, and as he said, we are now in the same boat with Russia.
  16. waggish
    waggish 11 October 2014 17: 00
    -5
    On Sunday, Iraqi militants on one of their sites circulated a report on the execution of four Russian diplomats captured in that country on June 3, 2006, France Presse reports.

    The message was posted by a group of Iraqi militants affiliated with the international terrorist organization Al-Qaeda. It was accompanied by video footage of the execution.

    "We have carried out the will of Allah with regard to four Russian diplomats," the terrorist group Shura Mujahideen Council, which earlier claimed responsibility for the kidnapping of Russians, said in a statement.

    According to the website of the Washington-based Institute for Searching International Terrorist Entities, the duration of the video recording of the execution is one minute 37 seconds. The date of filming is visible in the footage: 13.06.2006, that is, it was taken eight days before the first report of the death of the Russian hostages. The film first shows all the hostages separately, and then two masked people appear in the frame, shouting: "Allah is great!" and the execution begins. The tape then shows the decapitated bodies of the Russians.

    For the first time, information that Russian hostages were executed in Iraq appeared on Wednesday, June 21. Then the website of CNN television channel reported this, information about the execution of diplomats was also posted on the website of the Institute for the Search for International Terrorist Entities.

    The Russian Foreign Ministry has not yet confirmed information about the death of diplomats. Representatives of the embassy said that these messages are being checked.

    On June 19, the "Shura Council of Mujahideen" in exchange for hostages-diplomats demanded to withdraw troops from Chechnya and "release all their brothers and sisters from Russian prisons." The militants gave 48 hours to fulfill these conditions, after which they promised to execute the hostages.

    On Wednesday afternoon, May 21, after the expiration of the allotted time, a statement by the militants appeared on one of the Islamist sites, which said that “the Islamic court of the Shura Mujahideen Council ordered the execution of the hostages in connection with the failure to fulfill the conditions of the ultimatum.

    The attack on Russian diplomats was carried out on June 3 in Baghdad, near the Russian Embassy. During the attack, Vitaly Titov, an employee of the Russian diplomatic mission, was killed, and the third embassy secretary Fedor Zaitsev and embassy staff Rinat Agliulin, Anatoly Smirnov and Oleg Fedoseyev were captured by militants.
  17. raid14
    raid14 11 October 2014 17: 28
    +1
    The United States and its allies do not plan to conduct a ground operation yet, knowing full well that they will suffer heavy losses among ground units, as it was in Fallujah. Therefore, I will try to fight with someone else's hands, the Kurdish militias "Peshmerga", involve the Turkish regular army, conduct unofficial negotiations with the governments of Iran and Syria.
  18. saygon66
    saygon66 11 October 2014 17: 28
    +1
    - But it is interesting who taught this mandabraty to handle technically sophisticated weapons? And who provides them with feeding - certainly not supermarkets ... and, again, who treats?
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 11 October 2014 18: 40
      0
      When you aim a machine gun at a store, for some reason all prices are immediately reset to zero. And those who do not survive and are not treated. Survived - well done. There is no difficulty in small arms. But who taught the Cossacks in Ukraine to shoot from long-range artillery in Ukraine? I myself saw this story in the news. Do not consider Arabs to be third-class people and not capable of learning.
      1. Patriot.ru.
        Patriot.ru. 11 October 2014 19: 16
        0
        When you aim a machine gun. You only think that the store will not end. And Zhvanetsky taught to shoot at Dill. When he came to the store by tank.
      2. saygon66
        saygon66 11 October 2014 19: 25
        0
        - I saw those Arabs ... in other times, though. And besides the "shooter", the article mentions serious artillery systems and even "Scud". So, we must admit that the ideas of radical Islam are popular not only among uneducated fedoins, but also among some military experts, which is alarming!
        - As for the shops-machine guns, then in the same Afghanistan, closer to the conclusion, the number of "nishtyaks" - dukandors has sharply decreased in the dukans, (mostly Indians and Pakistanis) have stopped carrying goods - there is little profit, but the fear is fucking ... come to an empty counter even on a tank! There is a training and supply system here ... cover it up and the fellahs will return to their rams ...
      3. alone
        alone 11 October 2014 19: 37
        +1
        Quote: Алексей_К
        But who taught the Cossacks in Ukraine to shoot from long-range artillery in Ukraine?

        They are the Cossacks today. And before that, everyone served in the army, most during the Soviet era.

        Quote: Алексей_К
        . Do not consider Arabs to be third-class people and not capable of learning.


        No one considers them third-rate. You can train anyone. They are not only friends with discipline. And in most cases, they do not act according to the charter. (They can easily leave V \ h and leave without destroying anything)
  19. alone
    alone 11 October 2014 17: 34
    +2
    The Yugoslav grenade launcher M79 fell into their hands through Iraqi military bases that were captured. At one time, Yugoslavia was very actively selling weapons to Iraq, in the life of Saddam. It is surprising that the author does not know this.

    They don’t have anything to do with aviation. They don’t really need large armored forces either. Then they lose their two main trump cards - mobility and surprise. Yes and complete air supremacy, the anti-ISIS forces will not allow, say, a tank column to advance even 50km.

    P.S. It is time to solve this ISIS. It is longer than Ebola.
    1. Patriot.ru.
      Patriot.ru. 11 October 2014 17: 45
      +1
      These are partisans who are fanatical (not recognizing anyone) and have their own sources of financing. Let's see how the SGA defeats them.
      1. alone
        alone 11 October 2014 19: 32
        +1
        Quote: Patriot.ru.
        These are partisans who are fanatical (not recognizing anyone) and have their own sources of financing. Let's see how the SGA defeats them.


        ))) You are mistaken, these are not partisans. This is a very serious structure. You can’t even imagine so serious. This is not partisans. Everything is much more complicated. Compared to ISIS, al-Qaeda is just a kindergarten.
        1. Patriot.ru.
          Patriot.ru. 11 October 2014 20: 06
          0
          Well, voice over whose structure it is.
          1. alone
            alone 11 October 2014 22: 03
            0
            Everything is involved there too. It’s hard to say whose structure. By the way, they have already stated that they have chosen the next country to attack. They just didn’t give the name of the state. So when the conflict will spread from Iraq and from Syria somewhere else, then it will be possible with a large share probabilities to say whose structure it is.

            One can say 100% that a real threat looms over Syria. The bombing could easily spread to the right-wing position. Assad should not have allowed the bombing of Syria. It was necessary to do this yourself, by the forces of your Air Force.
  20. Reasonable
    Reasonable 11 October 2014 21: 07
    +2
    We look at the result:
    1.Igil threatens Russia, Syria-doing the right way the United States.
    2. The USA is already bombing the territory of Syria - the USA is doing the right thing and everyone agrees!
    3. The USA achieves its goals simply by working around.
    This is such a plan.
  21. Number 17
    Number 17 11 October 2014 21: 21
    0
    In the region, howling for what more ammunition. Here I’ll give you, for example, the legendary m4a assault with a handle and a calimator, I will only give you 200 rounds of ammunition and I’ll take ak 74 with ammunition of 1000 rounds for myself, which of us will win the battle in the city ????. And what is bad about the Soviet artillery that shoots at 27 km or 15 ????. For example, as a border guard, I’ll tell you one thing standing on a sea barger at the water’s edge, if you sharply put a flag there, it is 2 km away from you or, miraculously, 1 nautical mile with a tail. But if you look at the horizon from a height of 130 meters, then the horizon is a point at a distance of 64 nautical milli. I personally checked it, finding the ship where it was without binoculars and my colleagues fought off at random 5. That's it.
  22. Vadim237
    Vadim237 11 October 2014 22: 46
    +1
    When ISIS attacks Turkey, then the mess will begin.
  23. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 12 October 2014 00: 50
    -1
    And do not chase every action movie from the plane.
    Knock out the field commanders and the supply of ammunition and gasoline.
    Overlap finances.
    The rest themselves will dissipate. So it was with Al Qaeda - spanked Bin Laden
    and a dozen more leaders. They ran away to other organizations or to homes.
    Around Israel, such organizations were born and disappeared like mushrooms after rain -
    now no one remembers their names and nicknames of their leaders.
  24. Death Nik1
    Death Nik1 13 October 2014 11: 15
    -1
    I think that the next country will be Jordan. She is too attractive to them.