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"Boorish country." On the position of the Romanians and Hungarians in Ukraine

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"Boorish country." On the position of the Romanians and Hungarians in Ukraine


Throughout the short period of the existence of an independent Ukraine, relations with national minorities did not develop among the Kiev authorities. Over time, the national problems of Ukraine, mostly ignored, turned into chronic, and the “national revolution” led them to a critical point. This is especially noticeable in the position of the Romanians and Hungarians.

Romanians are the second largest population group in Bukovina (once this historical the region was part of the Old Russian state, now the northern part of Bukovina belongs to Ukraine). 97% of Ukrainian Romanians live in Chernivtsi (115 thousand) and Transcarpathian (32 thousand) regions. According to CEMES (Center for European Migration and Ethnic Studies), among the problems of the Romanian minority in Ukraine is the disproportionately small representation of Romanians in the higher education system and the inability to receive a full-fledged education in the Romanian language. As a result of the abolition of the law on regional languages ​​in 2014, the Verkhovna Rada of Ukraine’s law on regional languages ​​after the February 2012 coup, the dissatisfaction of Ukrainian Romanians with their situation only intensified.

Kiev rejects all accusations of disregard for the cultural needs of Ukrainian Romanians, but this only increases their discontent. In June, the Romanian Bessarabia rally was held in Odessa 2014, with the assistance of the Institute of Romanian Culture (Romania). At the congress, much was said about the need to open new Romanian cultural centers (there are not enough existing ones, their employees often do not even speak Romanian). The head of the Odessa Regional National-Cultural Romanian Association "Bessarabia" noted that "the main problem of the Romanian community in the Odessa region is the functioning of schools with teaching in the Romanian language, as well as their financing."

In Kiev, they say that at the legislative level, national minorities in Ukraine are supposedly better protected than in Romania. This is also not true, like much in modern Ukrainian propaganda. An example is the Russian Old Believers Lipovans who have been living in Romania for several centuries. The forces of the community of Russian Old Believers in Romania hold symposia on their history and religious tradition. The Zory newspaper is published in Bucharest, and the Kitezh-grad magazine is published in Iasi. Many Old Believers have Romanian awards (writers Nikita Danilov and Leonte Ivanov, scientist Mihai Nistor and many others). The legislation of Romania gives the right to all national minorities to have their own ethnic organizations, to preserve traditions, language, and the state supports them in this. In 2003, in the Orthodox Seminary. St. Basil the Great in the city of Iasi for the children of Russian Old Believers was opened a special seminar class, where they study the Old Believer Orthodoxy.

In Ukraine, for the 23 of the year of independence, the number of schools with the Romanian language of instruction was reduced from 18 to 5. This process went along with the closure of a huge number of Russian schools.

The situation with the Hungarian minority is no better. From the latest innovations of Kiev - the restructuring of single-mandate electoral districts in areas densely populated by the Hungarian minority in Transcarpathia. Now the votes of the Hungarian voters are scattered in different districts, the Hungarians no longer have the opportunity to elect their representatives to the Verkhovna Rada. Links of Hungarian activists to the Law of Ukraine No. 709 - VII “On Amendments to Certain Legislative Acts of Ukraine Concerning the Improvement of Legislation on the Issues of Elections” dated November 21 2013 and Article 18 of Section III of the Law of Ukraine “On the Election of People’s Deputies” districts given the administrative and territorial boundaries of the residence of national minorities, Kiev ignores. Now the European Court is a complaint of representatives of the Hungarian community of Transcarpathia with a request to influence the position of Kiev, forcing him to abide by their own laws.

Complaints are complaints, and the situation of the Hungarians, who have fallen under the authority of the “Ukrainian national state”, is becoming increasingly difficult. In March, 2013, the Ukrainian radicals attacked Hungarian tourists in Transcarpathia. Among the victims were children. Then, the Ukrainian media reported that the Right Sector undertook to solve the “Hungarian question”. The result: a monument on the Veretsky Pass desecrated in honor of the transition of the Hungarian tribes across the Carpathians to the Danube (the inscriptions appeared on it: “Death to the Hungarians!”); a group of hooligans broke out at a meeting of the public council of the Hungarians in the Transcarpathian district center of Beregovo, who beat the participants of the meeting. Hungarians are so outraged that the prominent figure of the Hungarian intelligentsia living in Transcarpathia, the poet Kará Bala, wrote an article called “Hammy Country”, assessing the actions of the Ukrainian authorities in relation to his compatriots.

Attempts by Kiev to reduce the entire national policy to the introduction of bilingual seals, forms and signs the Hungarian community is no longer satisfied. With such cosmetic measures, the culture of the Hungarians in the places of their millennial residence cannot be preserved. Among the almost two hundred thousandth Hungarian population of Transcarpathia, irredentist sentiments are gradually ripening.
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  1. herruvim
    herruvim 9 October 2014 18: 14
    +11
    So the west of Ukraine begins to tick from the junta, at such a pace, only Kiev and a couple of small adjacent areas will remain from the unplanned
    1. Момент
      Момент 9 October 2014 18: 17
      +14
      Ukraine is falling apart right before our eyes.
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      2. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 9 October 2014 18: 25
        +40
        Read the men verse .. for the soul really catches! hi
        1. TEODOR
          TEODOR 9 October 2014 18: 27
          +44
          It was the third year of the presidency of Poroshenko ... Spring ... They began to eat pigeons. They are tasty and healthy. Tree bark is suitable for seasoning and brewing tea. I have been walking for a long time, I learned a lot of new and interesting things about my city and its architecture. On a birthday they stabbed a cur. On the balcony, salted sparrows roll upside down. I sew my own clothes. Learned how to weave bast shoes. I wash myself once a month, make a fire in the yard and heat water in buckets. Gas has not been affordable for a long time, and a gas pipe has long been cut out. A couple of times managed to catch a fish. I cook the brew and set the kvass. Kombucha is also good. We think with my wife to take a loan for two and buy a bike.
          The air in the city becomes cleaner, rare cars surprise children. Kiev is emptying. Yesterday I saw the president passing by on his carriage. We are going to drag the land with my wife into the apartment and plant potatoes. I really want potato ... I haven’t eaten this delicious dish for a long time - potato .... Boiled potato ... fried ... baked ... They say the president eats potato every day, but my wife and I do not believe it, it sounds really fabulous: potato every day.
          We look forward to the summer ... Cockroaches are not at home ... The last one was eaten back in September 2015 ... Mosquitoes are afraid to fly into us, our veins suck them through their proboscis! Migratory birds fly over my city only at an altitude of 12 000 meters, they are afraid lower ... people jump! Toads in the spring croak only sitting deep under water! Rats left the city forever! Today, for the first time, I boiled my shoelaces, if they should be salted, they look like spaghetti (although even old people don’t remember what spaghetti is ...) That I was different ... Nothing, still bearable.
          The main thing is that we are still promised accession to the European Union and loans. Let's hold on ... The main thing is not to let the Communist Party of Ukraine and Colorado seize power. Soon elections to the Verkhovna Rada ... My wife and I decided to vote for VO "Svoboda" again. They say that when we completely forget the Russian language, we will have a lot of food ... Glory to the Heroes!

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          1. Egoza
            Egoza 9 October 2014 18: 36
            +10
            Quote: TEODOR
            It was the third year of the presidency of Poroshenko

            Mistake! According to predictions, Poroshenko will stay in power for ONE year!
            It is quite realistic - Ukraine will fall apart, there will be New Russia! And there is no place for him!
            By the way ...
            From Dnepropetrovsk ...
            Another moment, I recently drove past our state district power station (serving the city) and drew attention to the fact that all pipes are actively smoking. Previously (for about ten years already) there was practically no smoke. This means only one thing - they switched from gas to coal. And coal in the region, tsk. Unlike the "central part". Western Donbass on the territory of the Dnepropetrovsk region. And the Krasnoarmeisky district Benya "grabbed". So the Bengrad autonomy has its own Pavlogradugol and Krasnoarmetskugol. But with gas it is much worse. Kharkiv Benya "wanted", but did not bargain.
            xxxxx
            Whose monument should stand on the site of the Kharkov monument to Lenin?
            Kernes and Dobkin -5%
            Heavenly hundred or heroes of the ATO - 8%
            Nikolai Barabashov, Lyudmila Gurchenko or Evgeny Kushnarev - 3%
            Bring back Lenin! - 51%
            No need for a monument - smash the square - 30%
            1. TEODOR
              TEODOR 9 October 2014 18: 45
              +3
              Mistake! According to predictions, Poroshenko will stay in power only ONE year

              Ukraine is a wonderland. Everything can be here. Or do you disagree? )))
              1. Tersky
                Tersky 9 October 2014 19: 10
                +14
                Quote: TEODOR
                Ukraine is a wonderland. Everything can be here. Or do you disagree? )))

                Yeah .... there are miracles ....., there Natsik wanders, there Julia sits on the branches. There Yaytsenyuh people breed, and Porosenka to the bulldozer ...
                1. smile
                  smile 9 October 2014 19: 39
                  +10
                  Tersky
                  Oh, maybe it would be better - on the branches - Hangs? And it sways slightly in the wind ... and the other branches are waiting for their heroes ...... in my opinion, it will be more beautiful. :)))

                  By the way, I sadly caught myself thinking that I was not opposed to the territorial claims to Ukraine of an insignificant Romania (already warmer than secessionists for oil deposits), Hungary .... a year ago, these claims would have revolted me, and I would have supported the Ukrainians. ... and now the only thing I can wish to the dumbfounded independent people - for which they fought - that’s what you need. And let what Svidomity turned Ukraine into, dissolve faster and, preferably, without blood .....
                  1. Tersky
                    Tersky 9 October 2014 21: 56
                    +2
                    Vladimir, hi ! Well, so far to the great, and not only mine, unfortunately does not weigh ... laughing
                    Quote: smile
                    And let what Svidomity turned Ukraine into, dissolve faster and, preferably, without blood .....

                    Well, it’s unlikely that it will resolve without the blood, it has already poured. And from Nazism there is only one panacea-chopping block ..
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            3. Tersky
              Tersky 9 October 2014 19: 01
              +2
              Quote: Egoza
              Whose monument should stand on the site of the Kharkov monument to Lenin? Kernes and Dobkin -5% to Heavenly hundred or to the heroes of the ATO - 8% to Nikolai Barabashov, Lyudmila Gurchenko or Evgeny Kushnarev - 3% Return Lenin! - 51% Do not need a monument - break the square - 30%
              Bene should often scratch his turnips looking at these statistics ..
              1. Ruslan67
                Ruslan67 9 October 2014 19: 06
                +4
                Quote: Tersky
                Bene should often scratch his turnips looking at these statistics ..

                Mount wassat Vitya drinks
                1. Tersky
                  Tersky 9 October 2014 22: 44
                  +2
                  Quote: Ruslan67
                  Mount

                  Ruslan, a sledgehammer on a temechka is also a win-win option laughing Hi, drinks !
                  1. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 9 October 2014 22: 48
                    +1
                    Quote: Tersky
                    a little sledgehammer is also a win-win option

                    Or according to Raikin-Lomushka on the head laughing What are we masterful, all about tools and their use in everyday life wassat
            4. sgazeev
              sgazeev 9 October 2014 19: 56
              +1
              Quote: Egoza
              Quote: TEODOR
              It was the third year of the presidency of Poroshenko

              Mistake! According to predictions, Poroshenko will stay in power for ONE year!
              It is quite realistic - Ukraine will fall apart, there will be New Russia! And there is no place for him!
              By the way ...
              From Dnepropetrovsk ...
              Another moment, I recently drove past our state district power station (serving the city) and drew attention to the fact that all pipes are actively smoking. Previously (for about ten years already) there was practically no smoke. This means only one thing - they switched from gas to coal. And coal in the region, tsk. Unlike the "central part". Western Donbass on the territory of the Dnepropetrovsk region. And the Krasnoarmeisky district Benya "grabbed". So the Bengrad autonomy has its own Pavlogradugol and Krasnoarmetskugol. But with gas it is much worse. Kharkiv Benya "wanted", but did not bargain.
              xxxxx
              Whose monument should stand on the site of the Kharkov monument to Lenin?
              Kernes and Dobkin -5%
              Heavenly hundred or heroes of the ATO - 8%
              Nikolai Barabashov, Lyudmila Gurchenko or Evgeny Kushnarev - 3%
              Bring back Lenin! - 51%
              No need for a monument - smash the square - 30%

              Great mistake was grandfather Ilyich, if this had not happened, they could have lived as a single state, without these roguli and kuevlyans. fool
              1. igorkuzik
                igorkuzik 9 October 2014 20: 55
                +2
                It was not necessary V.I. to destroy the administrative-territorial division of the Russian Empire!
            5. Naum
              Naum 9 October 2014 22: 43
              0
              The sixth option is the Adoration of the Cross! This will be a worthy repentance for the anti-Christ madness of our naive and cruel ancestors.
          2. mamont5
            mamont5 9 October 2014 19: 26
            +1
            Quote: TEODOR
            It was the third year of the presidency of Poroshenko ... Spring ...


            Too optimistic for Poroshenko. He wouldn’t be able to live up to the first spring.

            Quote: TEODOR
            We are going to drag the land with my wife into the apartment and plant potatoes. I really want potato ... I haven’t eaten this delicious dish for a long time - potato .... Boiled potatoes ... fried ... baked ..


            I remember from Soviet times, in Ukraine, they complained that there potatoes grow poorly and small, not like what we have in Siberia.
            But, in general, it's cool.
          3. gozmos
            gozmos 9 October 2014 20: 17
            +3
            The husband brings home a hare.
            - Wife, fry the hare in the fat!
            - We don’t have fat ...
            - Well then fry in oil!
            - We don’t have any oil ...
            - Well, fry just like that on gas !!!
            - We do not have gas!
            A man in hearts swings and throws a hare out the window.
            The hare runs and shouts: “Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the heroes!"
            1. BLACK-SHARK-64
              BLACK-SHARK-64 10 October 2014 20: 05
              0
              Cool .... !!!! Cool .... Heroes glory !!!
          4. Petergut
            Petergut 9 October 2014 20: 28
            +7
            ...
            We are going to drag the land into the apartment with my wife and plant potatoes. I really want potato ... For a long time I did not eat this delicious dish - potato .... Boiled potatoes ... fried ... baked ... They say the president eats potatoes every day, but my wife and I do not believe it, it sounds really fabulous: potato every day.
            ...
            good
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        3. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 9 October 2014 19: 26
          -1
          Read already.
          First: late
          Secondly: it is useless
          Thirdly: I do not believe in "friendship of peoples", and probably no one believes, but those who say that they believe are lying.
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        5. Denis fj
          Denis fj 9 October 2014 20: 29
          +1
          Here are fabulous, huh? ..
          These attacks on the Hungarians Bandera - a serious matter.
          I think that soon Hungary will begin to respond to such episodes at the official, state level, if they have not already begun.
          But the junta is doing with its own hands, and Ukraine, as a country, no one, one more, or even two, given Romania, is making enemies.

          Consider, they form a reason for the growth in these countries of sentiment to saw off a suitable piece of an unlit neighbor. lol
        6. Leonardo
          Leonardo 9 October 2014 22: 10
          +1
          THANKS TO THIS UKRAINIAN GIRL !!!!! And neither add and .. don’t take it away.
        7. Naum
          Naum 9 October 2014 22: 39
          +1
          Yes, I was hit! Not everything is still apparently lost. The damned West managed to plunge the Russian people into a split: small and great Russians. This stupefaction will pass and will be bad for the provocateurs-traitors. Their people will be punished with aspen.
        8. Viktor Kudinov
          Viktor Kudinov 10 October 2014 05: 34
          +1
          Strongly written poem. Already to a severe male tear! Thank you honey!
        9. Valery Siberia
          Valery Siberia 10 October 2014 08: 30
          +1
          Wonderful poetry at its core! According to the events in Ukraine, you begin to catch yourself on the fact that you begin to hate all Ukrainians in general, except for the southeastern ones. But not so simple! And this is good!
        10. Who
          Who 11 October 2014 10: 16
          0
          Beautiful verse!

          PS. But I do not believe in Ukraine - I have been living here for more than 30 years and see that anger and hatred towards Russia is not at all accidental. From the first five-year plans, they were inspired by the idea that Ukraine was the nurse of Russia, that the Russians were eating them, but they themselves could not do anything, just drink. And anger grew within, subtly supported and brought up by the press. They did not notice point-blank that Russia, namely Russia was building cities and factories for them, Russian engineers and scientists found institutes and universities, etc., etc. And it costs a lot more than the bread and meat that was sent to Russia from Ukraine. And these thoughts are driven into their heads very tightly.

          And since 2003, it suddenly became clear that Russia needs less and less Ukraine. And now almost nothing is needed - neither its planes and missiles, nor turbines and gas pipelines, nor bread and even meat! And the worst thing for them was that Russia now does not give free oil and gas and fuel elements for nuclear power plants must be paid for in full. The Ukrainian economy began to collapse before our eyes. And they hated Russia, which just began to flourish somewhere in 2010. Russia no longer needs Ukraine, nor its Antonov, Yuzhmash, Turboatom, etc. And believe me, most Ukrainians hate Russia, although they can and not express it openly. And they will always hate - the more Russia becomes stronger
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      4. wow
        wow 9 October 2014 19: 15
        +2
        And rightly so! For what they fought, sorry - they jumped !!!
      5. 1812 1945
        1812 1945 9 October 2014 19: 54
        +3
        Quote: Moment
        Ukraine is falling apart right before our eyes.

        Because it never existed. Once again (hundredth? Thousandth?) I say: there has never been such a country "Ukraine"! There was a kind of artificial territorial formation without real, valid fundamental signs of a sovereign state - the Ukrainian SSR. - Generation of unkind intentions of people who encroached on the Unity and Indivisibility of the Russian State. An evil deed is evil and ends for people who have given free rein to their pride, conceit, self-interest. But those who remain faithful to their homeland, language, culture should not suffer! This is where the messianic essence of the existence of the Russian State should be manifested: Russia must put an end to evil. As has happened more than once in the history of mankind.
      6. Viktor Kudinov
        Viktor Kudinov 10 October 2014 05: 23
        0
        So that she does not fall apart, she needs to be a good girl - not to offend the little ones! That is, do not spread rot for the national minorities.
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    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 9 October 2014 18: 32
      +3
      Stupid Ukrainian fascists cannot find a common language in their country with any of the other nationalities, this will be one of the reasons for their defeat.
      1. TEODOR
        TEODOR 9 October 2014 18: 53
        +1
        Quote: Giant thought
        Stupid Ukrainian fascists cannot find a common language in their country with any of the other nationalities, this will be one of the reasons for their defeat.

        Ukrofashism can be defeated, but it cannot be destroyed, it is proved! The only more or less suitable way is to divide the territories of the western border of Pshek, part of the Hungarians, the east and the center of the Russian Federation.
        1. enot73
          enot73 9 October 2014 19: 12
          +3
          Home> News
          Another nonsense from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: Russian cadets fired at Ukrainian exams at the Ukrainian troops Another nonsense from the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine: Russian cadets fired at the state exams fired at the Ukrainian troops of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine made another loud statement. Advisor to the Minister of Defense of Ukraine Oleksandr Danilyuk said that Russian artillery cadets fought against the Ukrainian forces for the height of Saur-Mogil. According to adviser Geletey, in this way, they passed state exams. "We have received confirmation that cadets from the Kolomensky Higher Artillery Command School, who thus passed state exams, took part in artillery shelling of Ukrainian positions on Saur-Mogila. Russia is finally turning into North Korea, ”Danilyuk wrote on his Facebook. It is worth noting that this is not the first extravagant statement by the leadership of the Ministry of Defense. For example, the head of Moscow Region previously stated that Russia used tactical nuclear weapons at the Lugansk airport. And immediately after his appointment, he promised a victory parade for Ukrainian troops in Sevastopol. | Russian spring
          1. 17085
            17085 9 October 2014 19: 47
            +1
            It is very important that such come ... sorry, "competent" idio ... sorry burst out. In short, Ukraine, having such a minister of defense, does not need enemies at all.
          2. VSZMK
            VSZMK 10 October 2014 08: 10
            0
            Chases! This is the schoolchildren who took the exam on basic military training!
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    3. Korvin1000
      Korvin1000 9 October 2014 22: 06
      0
      But the collapse of Ukraine is now beneficial to us. Better than if she fully joins NATO.
    4. Naum
      Naum 9 October 2014 22: 30
      +1
      Everything will definitely return to "normal". Poland and Rumunia will take their historical regions of the Outskirts, Russia - theirs. Kuev will remain with the adjacent townships. This will be "Great Ukraine". Well, they are not ripe for statehood! They have always been freeloaders and rogues. And let them remain so! until they grow wiser and sober up. Well, for now, "hi stribayut, vyschsche and duschsche. Hto ne skache - that mos * cal, and hto skache - go * from!" Gop-gop-gop! So in winter they will keep warm.
    5. GRAMARI111
      GRAMARI111 10 October 2014 01: 03
      +1


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  2. cosmos132
    cosmos132 9 October 2014 18: 20
    +4
    According to the unofficial section of Ukraine, Romania counts on the Odessa region.
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    3. vsoltan
      vsoltan 9 October 2014 18: 37
      +7
      The treasure is huge, not the Odessa region. Rummaged. Odessa region will depart only and only to Russia .... sorry, gentlemen, officers, for stupid cheers-patriotism, could not be contained tongue
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 9 October 2014 19: 35
        +2
        Is it necessary? Maybe ask the Odessites?
        1. vsoltan
          vsoltan 9 October 2014 22: 16
          0
          Finder 33

          And yet sho gentlemen of Odessa responded after May 2? Gee-gee ... I would see how Israel or mattresses would ask for their Odessa opinion ... don’t tell me, Oleg, my slippers ... you need to do ... Everyone loves Odessa, and lazy cowardly inhabitants of Odessa will take root everywhere laughing
  3. Akvadra
    Akvadra 9 October 2014 18: 23
    +3
    It turns out that not only do we know that dill is a country of boors. Here are just mattresses, but the gay people so far consider them white and fluffy.
    1. enot73
      enot73 9 October 2014 18: 29
      +8
      Quote: Akvadra
      It turns out that not only do we know that dill is a country of boors
      Ukroy is more suitable for another old name - the country of frightened idiots.
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 9 October 2014 19: 37
      0
      Duck compared to them, they are white and fluffy.
  4. IAlex
    IAlex 9 October 2014 18: 25
    +1
    I talked with the young Poles, they also would like to fuck some from a rusty fork, I won’t say anything about Romanians and Hungarians, but I doubt that they don’t have such thoughts ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 9 October 2014 18: 40
      +5
      Quote: IAlex
      I talked with the young Poles, they also would like to fuck some from a rusty fork, I won’t tell about Romanians and Hungarians

      The Poles will definitely grab Lviv and Golitsia for themselves. And they will show "Kuzkin's mother" Everyone will remember! And the Volyn massacre, and the captured houses ...
      Hungarians, in principle, are ready to support their own. There, entire villages along the border are purely Hungarian.
      Romanians ... they will want a lot, but they are unlikely to be given. I think that Odessa will have time to join New Russia.
  5. Lelek
    Lelek 9 October 2014 18: 28
    +2
    West Ukrainian Magyars have long been eager to reunite with Hungary. And now Bandera, apparently, brought them to the edge. They will not be able to provide armed resistance because the population is mainly rural, but, acting through the EU, maybe they can bargain for themselves. recourse
    1. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 9 October 2014 18: 42
      +2
      Quote: Lelek
      They will not be able to provide armed resistance because the population is mainly rural,

      Here it is just the first and goes into the woods to dig caches laughing and then the trains downhill. Buses to the ditch ....
  6. Ivan 63
    Ivan 63 9 October 2014 18: 29
    +1
    Only the Russian people can be united. About Ukrainians, even more so today, and there can be no question - they are only suitable for creating myths about their "history" and sticking "the globe of Ukraine" and fascist slogans. I have never had a high opinion of the widest, but today they have surpassed the lowest marks and expectations, people ... mo.
    1. Miron64
      Miron64 9 October 2014 18: 44
      +4
      Exactly you're right!
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 9 October 2014 18: 44
      +2
      Quote: Ivan 63
      I have never been about high opinion, but today they exceeded the lowest ratings and expectations.

      Ratings will fall lower and lower !!! It’s just been reported on the news that Russia is exporting coal from Kamaz with Lugansk !!! And the Russian Federation is not interested in that the residents of the Lugansk region. will freeze !!!
      Incredible FALSE AND COUGH!
      1. 17085
        17085 9 October 2014 19: 56
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        They just reported on the news that Russia was exporting coal from Kamaz with Lugansk !!! And the Russian Federation is not interested in that the residents of the Lugansk region. will freeze !!!


        Of course, coal production in Russia was reduced this year, how many percent I don’t remember 2 or even 3, and here we are compensating ...
        Another option ... Something is being taken out under the coal. Let me see. In! The apples! or not Kartohu! no ... damn everything is not right, maybe someone will tell?
        1. wasjasibirjac
          wasjasibirjac 9 October 2014 21: 29
          +1
          Quote: 17085
          Another option ... Something is being taken out under the coal. Let me see. In! The apples! or not Kartohu! no ... damn everything is not right, maybe someone will tell?

          watermelons? and according to Vasilyeva and Avakov - another 100500 dead from the Russian airborne
          1. 23 region
            23 region 9 October 2014 22: 48
            0
            Quote: wasjasibirjac
            Quote: 17085
            Another option ... Something is being taken out under the coal. Let me see. In! The apples! or not Kartohu! no ... damn everything is not right, maybe someone will tell?

            watermelons? and according to Vasilyeva and Avakov - another 100500 dead from the Russian airborne

            And then on this corner, in an underground crematorium, they will be burned so that everything would be sewn-covered smoke will be released through a pipe through the ground, somewhere in Australia.
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 9 October 2014 20: 13
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: Ivan 63
        I have never been about high opinion, but today they exceeded the lowest ratings and expectations.

        Ratings will fall lower and lower !!! It’s just been reported on the news that Russia is exporting coal from Kamaz with Lugansk !!! And the Russian Federation is not interested in that the residents of the Lugansk region. will freeze !!!
        Incredible FALSE AND COUGH!

        Yes, it seems that in this information war there are no more rules and forbidden topics.
  7. Gelos
    Gelos 9 October 2014 18: 40
    +2
    Boorish country ... No really. When "Death to the Hungarians!", When "yaku on gilyaku", when the genocide of Rusyns, when "hails" and "hurricanes" in schools, hospitals and residential buildings, when mass graves with traces of inhuman torture, when business on human organs is already called "somewhat" differently. This is called Fascinating UKRONATSISM. And the country in which this is happening is a Fascist COUNTRY.
    Probably Kary Bala has an innate sense of tolerance. Or he just still does not know what is happening in this fascist country.
  8. Strashila
    Strashila 9 October 2014 18: 49
    +8
    Well ... Poland will also remember ... that Lviv is their city.
    You look at Ukraine ... there are Romanians ... there are Hungarians ... there are Russians ... there are Poles, everyone has their own cities, everyone has a history of the people ... the current of dill can not remember anything ... that’s it .
    1. sabakina
      sabakina 9 October 2014 19: 06
      +2
      Well said. good
    2. Ruslan67
      Ruslan67 9 October 2014 19: 08
      +1
      Quote: Strashila
      . current dill can not recall anything ... that’s it.

      Zaporizhzhya bomzhatnik wassat The prototype of the Maidan fool
    3. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 9 October 2014 19: 40
      0
      That is how it should be. Everything is taken apart in pieces.
  9. AleksWest
    AleksWest 9 October 2014 19: 02
    +9
    A terrible tragedy happened - the Obama couple had a white child. On this occasion, the press secretary of the US State Department, Marie Harf, reports at a press conference.
    - Russia and personally President Putin are undoubtedly the culprits of this incident, we have absolutely all the evidence, but because of the secrecy, we cannot open it.
    Journalist: - And how do you explain that 9 months before President Obama visited President of Ukraine Poroshenko? Are these two facts not related?
    MX: - Absolutely not connected. They can’t even be compared. In addition, President Poroshenko paid a visit to the couple Obama as a private individual. He could just visit his grandmother in the USA. The next question, please!
    - And how do you explain that both the face and the hairdo do not look like Putin, but they are very similar to Poroshenko, almost the same person.
    - Given that the baby is not African American, portrait similarities cannot be determined by eye.
    - So you want to say that all white on one face?
    - I did not say that!
    - And what about the fact that according to the results of an independent genetic examination, Poroshenko is 99,9% of the baby’s father?
    “We have undeniable evidence to the contrary.”
    - What?
    - Statement by President Poroshenko, laid out by him in the "Yu Tube".
    - And you are based only on this statement?
    - Of course, because it is very logical: the person is not to blame and honestly said that. We do not doubt the veracity of this data.
    “And if President Putin says the same thing?”
    “Naturally, we cannot trust his statement.”
    - Why?
    - Listen, you are simply expounding Moscow propaganda! Do you have more questions?
  10. Uzer 13.
    Uzer 13. 9 October 2014 19: 10
    +2
    You must run away from there quickly. In the next two decades, the mess will not end. Until all the fake Ukrainians are killed and the real ones begin to work, instead of hanging around on the Maidan.
  11. pvv113
    pvv113 9 October 2014 19: 31
    +3
    Over time, the national problems of Ukraine, mostly hushed up, grew into chronic ones, and the “national revolution” brought them to a critical point. This is especially noticeable in the situation of Romanians and Hungarians.

    Waiting for the banderlogs of the opening of the second front!
  12. drags33
    drags33 9 October 2014 19: 53
    +1
    The only way out for today's ukro-ruins is to divide it into parts and distribute these parts to neighboring countries (on bail ...). Only this can save ordinary people in the non-state, formerly called Ukraine !!! This non-state was originally assembled from separate parts (like a patchwork quilt), in which people still think differently, have different mentality and different life values. And it will NEVER BE ABLE to bring all this to a common denominator within the framework of the Ukraine project! So the only way out is to divide the ruin-ukro-ruin into parts and in each of the parts people live as they see fit ...
  13. deleter24
    deleter24 9 October 2014 20: 17
    +1
    Svidomye jumped. The country is already being sawed to pieces. Ukrainians, I feel sorry for you and very sad for you. crying
  14. crambol
    crambol 9 October 2014 21: 11
    +1
    a prominent figure in the Hungarian intelligentsia poet Karo Bala wrote an article “Boorish country»


    For a long time I could not pick up a characteristic. There she is!
  15. Korvin1000
    Korvin1000 9 October 2014 22: 09
    0
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Read the men verse .. for the soul really catches! hi


    If the majority thought so. And then in fact they were brainwashed specifically.
  16. Leonardo
    Leonardo 9 October 2014 22: 16
    0
    I'm ... I'm sorry ... BUT ... I ... DRAIN Ukraine ... as a state. Jump, jump, give birth to "pravosectorists" .... I don't care. There is time to change your mind. Adieu !!
  17. Nina Zima
    Nina Zima 9 October 2014 22: 25
    +1
    St. Louis .. a new wave of unrest begins in the US
  18. Nina Zima
    Nina Zima 9 October 2014 22: 27
    +1
    in fairy tales the whole truth ....
  19. Alfizik
    Alfizik 10 October 2014 00: 10
    +1
    Boorish country ... How insulting for real, decent Ukrainians! But the end of rudeness is not visible.
  20. Nikoha.2010
    Nikoha.2010 10 October 2014 00: 58
    +3
    The AiF correspondent met with the famous director Stanislav Govorukhinin at the Festival of Russian Art in Cannes. For the first time in a long time, he spoke on the most pressing topics today.
    - As a citizen, I understand: we quarreled with Ukraine for life. You think we won’t make peace?
    “You can't wash that kind of blood.” Maybe in 100 years we’ll make peace if the Earth still exists. But for the period of my remaining life, I perfectly understand that I will not go either to Kiev or Kharkov ... And Odessa ... I treat the city with disgust. To the townspeople who allowed to do this to themselves. In Odessa, there are more than a million inhabitants! Cowardly people - Odessa citizens. I know them well ... It would be impossible in Sevastopol - everyone would take a cleaver, an ax, a gun there. There are peoples who are not intimidating. Chechens. Or Kerch. Courageous, strong. And their whole story is this. And the inhabitants of Odessa shut up, scared and sit ... And gradually they change their views. Zombie little by little and also talk about her, who are fighting with Ukraine ...
    I completely agree, no comment! IMHO!
    1. Borz
      Borz 10 October 2014 03: 43
      0
      Alas, Govorukhin is right for all 100. Odessa lost her face.
      1. 17085
        17085 10 October 2014 08: 59
        0
        Quote: Borz
        Odessa lost her face


        Not all of course, but changes on the face. Returning here, every time, changes are evident, especially in conversations. Even new turns of speech appear, residents of Odessa no longer joke at the breaks, but relay Svidomo propaganda. Moreover, it looks like one helps word by word to remember the previously heard get along, and when they finish, some relief comes. There’s nothing to be considered a sepora about us, we’re well zombied, right? In response, I sing a song about the Bear, not one of these zombie words in return, only longing in the eyes ...
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  21. postoronim V
    postoronim V 10 October 2014 09: 13
    0
    What woke up, how hurt they howl howl raise. You still will be cut out as Poles, blow them in the ass more.