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For two years, the Minister of Defense of Germany saved on the army about € 2 billion

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In Germany, the scandal is becoming more and more intense due to the unsatisfactory state of the material and technical base of the army. This situation was the result of unreasonable cost savings, reports ITAR-TASS with reference to the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.

For two years, the Minister of Defense of Germany saved on the army about € 2 billion


"This year 4,4 billion euros was pledged in the budget of the Federal Republic for defense, but of this amount 400 million are not expected to be spent. Last year, the amount of funds released was even more impressive - 1,6 billion euros"- the newspaper writes.

Under heavy pressure from the deplorable state of technology, the head of the Ministry of Defense, Ursula von der Lyayen, was forced last week to request the government to increase spending on the needs of the armed forces.

Meanwhile, at the end of September, German publications quoted the Minister of Defense as saying that the Bundeswehr was unable to fulfill a number of obligations to NATO. Among them - the allocation for the needs of the 60 alliance fighter "Eurofighter-Typhoon."

According to a report on the state of military equipment published by the 25 media of September, “from the 406 infantry combat vehicles Marder (Marder) on the move now only 280, from the 180 GTK Boxer armored personnel carriers - 70, and from the 31 helicopter” Tiger "(Eurocopter Tiger) can only fly 10".

In addition, factory defects were revealed in Typhoon fighters. It turned out that “manufacturers (BAE Systems, Airbus, and Italian Alenia Aermacchi) made mistakes when drilling many holes on the back of the fuselage,” the Defense Ministry said.

The German Air Force is armed with the 109 "Typhoon", but only 42 vehicles are in combat readiness.
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Rossiyskaya Gazeta
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  1. belovur
    belovur 7 October 2014 15: 13
    +7
    And it’s interesting, she also, like our Vasilyeva, bought the money saved?
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 7 October 2014 15: 18
      +11
      Let him now take a capitalist commitment in the next two years to save three billion euros.
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      3. Stalker
        Stalker 7 October 2014 15: 48
        +24
        TODAY THE BIRTHDAY OF VLADIMIR VLADIMIROVICH PUTIN !!!! The president, who without a single shot returned Crimea to Russia !!!! drinks
        clickable.
        1. INVESTOR
          INVESTOR 7 October 2014 16: 21
          +3
          On the birthday of GDP, an essay about him. 15 years with Putin.
          http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/putin15/
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        3. lis-ik
          lis-ik 7 October 2014 16: 55
          +5
          I am joining! I tried to find a separate site to congratulate, but I didn’t find it, and it’s not lizobolzhenie for the first time in 20 years, I am proud of my state!
        4. sergey261180
          sergey261180 7 October 2014 17: 59
          0
          Quote: Stalker
          TODAY THE BIRTHDAY OF VLADIMIR VLADIMIROVICH PUTIN !!!! The President

          Happy Birthday to our Supreme Commander-in-Chief! I wish you to continue at least 15 years in the same vein! By the way, there is no separate article on TopVar, ah-i-th! lol
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        6. Stalker
          Stalker 7 October 2014 20: 02
          0
          Vladimir Vladimirovich, taking his well-deserved vacation, celebrates his birthday in the taiga. The extensive program even races on bears !!!! laughing drinks good
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    3. smile
      smile 7 October 2014 15: 25
      +6
      belovur
      It’s unlikely that, apparently, our Vasilieva will give her a hundred points of handicap ....... nevertheless, even such a genius for mastering the budget as the Taburetki gang of greedy women - yellow chickens compared to the real geniuses of budget development - by their Pentagon colleagues which, according to American data, steal over two hundred billion green money annually. The American control and auditing authorities note the theft of trillions of dollars in the Pentagon and shrug their hands, saying they’re finding the guilty in no way ... and nothing, nobody with a beautiful bracelet on a thick leg draws wild pictures and scribbles breathtaking rhymes ... :)))
      In general, even if we grit our teeth with powerlessness, seeing that the Taburetka gang escaped with a slight fright, we can at least be comforted that most of the neighbors in this case are even worse and we are nothing more against their background ... :)))) and what else remains? :)))
      1. 23 region
        23 region 7 October 2014 16: 01
        +3
        Quote: smile
        It’s unlikely that, apparently, our Vasilieva will give her a hundred points of odds .......

        In general, even if we grit our teeth with powerlessness, seeing that the Taburetka gang escaped with a slight fright, we can at least be comforted that most of the neighbors in this case are even worse and we are nothing more against their background ... :)))) and what else remains? :)))

        Lord! You are animals, gentlemen! ..
    4. Alex_Popovson
      Alex_Popovson 7 October 2014 15: 27
      +6
      No matter how you say it, their financial statements are stricter. It’s another matter that during informal negotiations they could throw this money at ... Well, let’s say on the social network or avoiding the negative consequences of sanctions, or at all to help Ukrashka.
      And Vasilyev publicly burn. If only I would give this money to orphanages or homes for the disabled. It’s bad when egoists are in power.
      1. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 7 October 2014 15: 36
        +2
        Not so long ago, our Army was blamed, and in our own country - Pshik.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 7 October 2014 19: 53
          0
          Quote: subbtin.725
          Not so long ago, our Army was blamed, and in our own country - Pshik.

          This is not zilch, this is the Minister of Defense by profession a gynecologist. We had a furniture maker, their gynecologist - the result is almost the same. The only difference is that our pocket worked .............
      2. schizophrenic
        schizophrenic 7 October 2014 15: 43
        0
        So it’s easier for the Germans to refuse assistance to NATO troops.
        The excuse is simple, the technique is worn out. Please support the Germans, because how much money will be saved, and joint operations with NATO forces will not work.
      3. lelikas
        lelikas 7 October 2014 15: 46
        +2
        "Boxer" is considered to be the best modern wheeled armored vehicle - and in three years they lost more than half of them ...
        BTR-80 looks at him with sympathy.
      4. smile
        smile 7 October 2014 16: 00
        +4
        Alex_Popovson
        Well yes, well yes, stricter. :))) It is a myth. When the U.S. audit authorities say it seems. since 98 (too lazy to search) in the Pentagon, trillions of dollars (infa open, easy to find even in pedagogy - with reference to the sources of the same Pentagon) spent the wrong way (the same misuse, for example, to buy toilet bowls in Iraq for several thousand bucks - it’s about the same as Vasilyeva’s), and two trillion in general have disappeared without a trace, then the bish stupidly stolen without trying to veil, then the severity looks clearly pretentious. :)))
        1. g1v2
          g1v2 7 October 2014 16: 05
          +2
          Over the past 20 years, according to journalistic investigations of Western media, the Pentagon could not report for 8,5 trillion dollars, and this is half of Amer’s foreign debt.
          1. Iline
            Iline 7 October 2014 18: 13
            0
            Well, at least we with our Serdyukov are not alone ahead of the rest.
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    6. siberalt
      siberalt 7 October 2014 15: 44
      +3
      They drilled holes there. We should have their problems laughing
    7. 12423 student
      12423 student 7 October 2014 16: 19
      0
      According to a report on the state of military equipment published by the 25 media of September, “from the 406 infantry combat vehicles Marder (Marder) on the move now only 280, from the 180 GTK Boxer armored personnel carriers - 70, and from the 31 helicopter” Tiger "(Eurocopter Tiger) can only fly 10".


      What scary numbers!
      The only terrible thing is the popular expression "there will be no air support - the pilot is sick"
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    9. wolf7
      wolf7 7 October 2014 22: 29
      0
      And this is the vaunted German ordnung !?
  2. MIV999
    MIV999 7 October 2014 15: 15
    +5

    German Minister of Defense ... saved

    If the famous Bismarck could read this - in a coffin would roll over ... am laughing
    And not at all because of savings, as you understand yes ... And due to the fact that German Minister of Defense - SHE IS repeat
    1. panfil
      panfil 7 October 2014 15: 49
      +2
      Here you have the Minister of Defense in a skirt. About how a cook will rule the country. In such positions should be professional military. But we are only getting better from such news. If there were more such defense ministers in Europe!
      1. Alf
        Alf 7 October 2014 21: 44
        0
        Quote: panfil
        If there were more such defense ministers in Europe!

        Let’s offer them Vasilyeva for the post of some financial director in all of NATO. It will be possible to open a tote on the topic of how soon the financial budget of NATO will decrease significantly.
    2. Svetlana
      Svetlana 7 October 2014 16: 14
      0
      Guys will soon completely degenerate there. It seems that they are undergoing a process of naturalization. Bab more and more in high posts.
    3. Azim77
      Azim77 7 October 2014 16: 32
      +2
      I wonder if she has a husband? And how does he feel about her? And who is washing the dishes? She gives him a ride in tanks? Play elephants?
  3. bekjan
    bekjan 7 October 2014 15: 15
    +2
    he who will not feed his soldiers and provide for his army will surely feed the conquering soldiers and pay tribute to the conqueror.
    1. trenitron
      trenitron 7 October 2014 15: 17
      +10
      We will not criticize the Bundespravitelstvo, even if they save as much as possible
      1. MIV999
        MIV999 7 October 2014 15: 22
        +2
        Surprisingly accurate remark drinks
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 7 October 2014 15: 23
      +3
      Quote: bekjan
      he who will not feed his soldiers and provide for his army will surely feed the conquering soldiers and pay tribute to the conqueror.

      The Germans have been feeding the American army for almost 70 years.
    3. bvi1965
      bvi1965 7 October 2014 15: 28
      0
      That is, according to the NATO theory of the US? laughing
    4. predator.3
      predator.3 7 October 2014 15: 47
      0
      Minister of Defense Ursula von der Leyen

      Well what can I say, we wish you success in further savings! lol
    5. andrew42
      andrew42 7 October 2014 16: 34
      0
      This is how Germany is already feeding the foreign army (USA). And he pays. There are many more indirect types of payment than just contributions for NATO needs, that is, the needs of the United States. The excuse that the Americans "protect from Soviets" is more and more like an anecdote. I think the Germans understand this, but they can’t wriggle out. So many things are tied.
  4. s30461
    s30461 7 October 2014 15: 15
    +3
    What are you saying! Profitability, it can be said, is the main indicator of the power of the armed forces. The less they spend on the Army, the stronger it is. In Somalia, there is no such thing as an Army budget, but no one is in a hurry to meddle with their army. Maybe Germany decided to take the same path?
    1. smile
      smile 7 October 2014 15: 30
      +3
      s30461
      No, no, no, we don’t need the Germans to follow the path of Somalia. Imagine the Baltic, the center of Europe .... and wild dark-skinned half-naked Germans climb crashing boats with rusty Kalash and kitchen knives on passenger ferries ... holy-holy .... let them have a normal Army ... :) )))
  5. roman72-452
    roman72-452 7 October 2014 15: 17
    +2
    If they do not want to feed their army, then what happens is that they feed someone else's, American in return, not having the right to an independent policy beneficial to their country.
  6. Oleg Sobol
    Oleg Sobol 7 October 2014 15: 17
    +8
    Okay, okay, two grandmothers "ruled" ... lol
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 7 October 2014 15: 24
      0
      "subtly" noticed ... laughing
      1. Stanislav 1978
        Stanislav 1978 7 October 2014 15: 30
        +1
        Now these grandmothers on a tour of Europe, let them give lectures on how to save money. After Europe, to the states, and to stay there longer.
  7. Buran
    Buran 7 October 2014 15: 19
    +4
    More Europe women in the commanders. Dumb and scary, and we do not need to fight with them. Healthy men will run away, and only geykhloptsy will remain.
  8. Alexey M
    Alexey M 7 October 2014 15: 21
    +7
    They drank Angela drank.
  9. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 7 October 2014 15: 22
    +1
    “The manufacturers (BAE Systems, Airbus and Italy's Alenia Aermacchi) made mistakes when drilling many holes ...

    Hmm ... In such MONSTERS, and such a MARRIAGE ...
    ... only 42 vehicles are on alert.

    These facts, of course, are encouraging, because NATO’s combat readiness is declining!
    But in general, this suggests that this lady is not sitting in her chair.
    1. Buran
      Buran 7 October 2014 15: 30
      +2
      I kept thinking that Angelka at first seemed to have a normal attitude to Russia, but then she fell off the chain. Yes, here's one German friend told a little. During her stay in Germany, she "buried" nuclear waste in abandoned mines. But either the containers will collapse, or the mines will be heated. In general, to get them from there, you need 6 billion euros. And it was not in vain that the Americans listened to her incriminating evidence in the form of kickbacks or something similar to her.
  10. pensioner
    pensioner 7 October 2014 15: 23
    +2
    The German Air Force is armed with the 109 "Typhoon", but only 42 vehicles are in combat readiness.
    Those. as if to save more reserves what ... The struggle for economy will be held under the motto: "Give 2 battle-ready Typhoons!" fellow . Why 2? One - somehow not seriously ... No.
    1. ia-ai00
      ia-ai00 7 October 2014 15: 26
      +2
      Correctly, remember?: - "The economy should be ECONOMIC!"
      1. Azim77
        Azim77 7 October 2014 16: 18
        +2
        And for the money saved, these handbags will be bought by Frau)) And shoes, where without them ..
  11. ISKANDER25
    ISKANDER25 7 October 2014 15: 23
    +2
    Hello! YES DON'T SAVE IT, THIS ARMY WAS DIVORED IN LARDS! hi
    AND THE HIKE MERCELISH THE STATES BROUGHT! laughing
  12. Alexander
    Alexander 7 October 2014 15: 24
    +4
    The German army fell under the heel. Keitel rolled over in his grave
  13. bmv04636
    bmv04636 7 October 2014 15: 25
    +2
    Well done, I hope you’ve dressed and shod at least your paratroopers
  14. Lenar
    Lenar 7 October 2014 15: 27
    +4
    The Minister of Defense is a woman. Horror. Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler and others clearly did not expect such a story
  15. RAE8
    RAE8 7 October 2014 15: 29
    +2
    The German army is the standard for the Bandera army. Catch up and overtake.
  16. s30461
    s30461 7 October 2014 15: 30
    +2
    Quote: Lenar
    The Minister of Defense is a woman. Horror. Hitler, Goebbels, Himmler and others clearly did not expect such a story

    Adolf would have shot himself immediately, without waiting for when ours enter Berlin.
  17. RUSS
    RUSS 7 October 2014 15: 31
    +1
    Minister of Defense Ursula von der Leyen

    Bismarck and Wilhelm Kaiser rolled over in a coffin.
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  19. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 7 October 2014 15: 32
    +5
    Faithful path go comrades! soldier

    But you can not stop there! I propose that the Ministry of Defense of Germany think about another way to save the budget, which in large companies gives good results. Namely, the transfer of the army to outsourcing. Why pay dear European contractors when five more Chinese can be hired for the same money? Well this is what a benefit to the budget of Germany will be ...
  20. RUSS
    RUSS 7 October 2014 15: 33
    0
    In Germany, a scandal erupts more and more due to the unsatisfactory state of the material and technical base of the army


    Well, and then many 200 German soldiers in Ukraine were scared ....
  21. sergey261180
    sergey261180 7 October 2014 15: 35
    +4
    "Out of 406 Marder infantry fighting vehicles, only 280 are currently in motion, out of 180 GTK Boxer armored personnel carriers, 70, and out of 31 Eurocopter Tiger helicopters, only 10 can fly."
    1. Azim77
      Azim77 7 October 2014 16: 16
      +2
      I wonder what Bismarck would say if he knew that in the future there would be women chancellor and defense minister in Germany?
      1. pensioner
        pensioner 7 October 2014 16: 46
        +1
        Quote: Azim77
        I wonder what Bismarck would say if he knew that in the future there would be women chancellor and defense minister in Germany?

        I would kill the fuck !! am
      2. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 7 October 2014 17: 09
        +1
        Quote: Azim77
        I wonder what Bismarck would say if he knew that in the future there would be women chancellor and defense minister in Germany?

        Alas, we would not know this. Because the paper would not stand such words. smile
  22. Mareman Vasilich
    Mareman Vasilich 7 October 2014 15: 36
    +1
    No wonder they say that the most nightmare of the Anglo-Saxons is the union of Germans and Russians.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 7 October 2014 16: 00
      +2
      Quote: Mareman Vasilich
      the most nightmare

      The worst nightmare is when a woman is put up as Minister of Defense. Woman's place in the kitchen !!!
      1. Buran
        Buran 7 October 2014 16: 11
        0
        You shouldn’t be so. We had on contract a girl, a medic, was short, slender, and stunned by two meters, she replaced us both with a word and a foot.
        1. sergey261180
          sergey261180 7 October 2014 16: 18
          -1
          Quote: Buran
          We had a contracted girl, a medical girl, short, thin, and we were stunned by two meters, put in place and a word and with his feet.

          Do doctors build stunned? What a mess? So far from rear-wheel drive.
          1. nachtRitter
            nachtRitter 7 October 2014 17: 04
            +2
            You would choose the words, dear! My head of the medical unit was a roofing major, a veteran of both Chechen campaigns. So she Not only built us soldiers, but the entire command of the unit, including inspecting colonels and generals.
          2. Buran
            Buran 7 October 2014 17: 08
            0
            Something brings you, do not find ??? stop
      2. nachtRitter
        nachtRitter 7 October 2014 16: 59
        +2
        Quote: sergey261180
        Woman's place in the kitchen !!!

        I do not agree. A woman is strong not by logic but by intuition! They need intelligence. And let the boys leave large pieces of iron.
        1. sergey261180
          sergey261180 7 October 2014 17: 14
          0
          Quote: nachtRitter
          I do not agree.

          Henpecked!
          1. Siberia 9444
            Siberia 9444 7 October 2014 18: 16
            +1
            Cool answer! +++++++++ drinks laughing Neighing from the heart hi
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  23. HUMAN
    HUMAN 7 October 2014 15: 52
    +1
    let them save, let. and let us give us faulty equipment as training targets. and we’ll add some correct holes to them. wink
  24. Viktor Kudinov
    Viktor Kudinov 7 October 2014 15: 55
    +1
    Hungry, bloated German troops, wrecked and incapable equipment - this is what Germany brought to perestroika, Gorbi, Russian nesting dolls and crazy German economy on everything. This is normal for Ukraine, but for Germany, such a low combat readiness of military equipment is a serious misunderstanding.
    1. Roll 8R
      Roll 8R 7 October 2014 16: 13
      0
      Do Germans and Russia have one interest now? ... drinks
      1. nachtRitter
        nachtRitter 7 October 2014 17: 05
        +1
        Oktoberfest drinks
  25. crambol
    crambol 7 October 2014 15: 59
    +1
    for Germany, such a low combat readiness of military equipment is a serious misunderstanding.


    But an even greater misunderstanding is Germany’s participation in the EU.
  26. Bassoon
    Bassoon 7 October 2014 15: 59
    +1
    It turns out that Germany has its own Serdyukovs
    1. shtch
      shtch 7 October 2014 16: 08
      0
      And where are they not? Cutting military budgets back in Ancient Egypt, they were engaged in full swing .... The whole question is on a scale. And the scale in this case is such that it turns out de facto - Germany does not have an army.
    2. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 7 October 2014 17: 18
      0
      Quote: Fagot
      It turns out that Germany has its own Serdyukovs

      Serdyukovs are everywhere. In the Island Empire, Serdyukov almost drank nuclear AB (once again, the last CVA-01 in the 70s also fell under the onslaught of the crisis).
      But, to the great regret of the politicians, this time their lordships were safe - the amount of penalties prescribed in the contract for refusing to build the AB was more than the cost of construction. smile
  27. Roll 8R
    Roll 8R 7 October 2014 16: 10
    0
    And what, they say an excellent positive effect, you can get on saving toilet paper? ... love
  28. IAlex
    IAlex 7 October 2014 16: 12
    0
    They save as well as ours, because everything saved is a draw, and a draw, as they say, is all mine :)
  29. RPK-74
    RPK-74 7 October 2014 16: 14
    +1
    Again, Russian soldiers will have to defend the Germans! soldier When he served in the GSVG, the Germans just told us, “Russian soldiers will protect us!” what winked
    1. jida
      jida 7 October 2014 16: 25
      0
      +++++++++++++++++
  30. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 7 October 2014 16: 16
    +2
    Yes, Merkel is not Keitel, well, thank God. Merkel, kaput! wassat
  31. AIR ZNAK
    AIR ZNAK 7 October 2014 16: 16
    +1
    Yeahhh ... Instead of * UBER ALLES * it turned out * ALLES KAPUT *
  32. s30461
    s30461 7 October 2014 16: 16
    0
    Quote: smile
    s30461
    No, no, no, we don’t need the Germans to follow the path of Somalia. Imagine the Baltic, the center of Europe .... and wild dark-skinned half-naked Germans climb crashing boats with rusty Kalash and kitchen knives on passenger ferries ... holy-holy .... let them have a normal Army ... :) )))

    So this, I’m getting to something: for us, the German army with rusty knives and bows is better than with tanks and missiles)))
  33. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 7 October 2014 16: 28
    0
    Quote: Oleg Sobol
    Okay, okay, two grandmothers "ruled" ... lol
    it’s not in vain that Uncle VOVA and Angelica spoke German in German laughing well..we are better..in Germany, you can derive the average combat efficiency of all NATO as a whole laughing
  34. andrew42
    andrew42 7 October 2014 16: 51
    +4
    Yes, and there were times when the 12 German divisions were taught as the most powerful component of the NATO ground forces in Europe. Well, do not flatter yourself. The economic opportunities of the European Union with the right pendell will easily and quickly put their aircraft at the right level. Even statistically, the balance of power between NATO and Russia today is far from in Russia's favor. And if you pull yourself up qualitatively, then ... it will be hard. On the other hand, it seems that Russia should not lose local conflicts, but from a large-scale clash ... nuclear weapons and the cowardice of the average European help us. The main thing - do not click the beak yourself, and pump up the military-industrial complex, gaining momentum. The situation is similar to the end of the 40s. With the difference that if we put aside nuclear deterrence, our position is weaker (due to internal structure) and the lack of allies in the SVD, but the opponents are no longer the same, and there are other games like China. You can giggle, but you must not waste time. Without strengthening the role of the state in the economy, they will devour us.
    1. s30461
      s30461 7 October 2014 17: 55
      +1
      Totally agree with you. I, and another 150 million Russians.
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  35. Altona
    Altona 7 October 2014 17: 58
    0
    It turns out that the Bundeswehr is in the state of Ukraine’s Zbroinny forces, it’s also worn out and abandoned ... I remember when Thatcher drove her admirals to conquer piles of large rubble in the Atlantic from Argentina, called the Falkland Islands (Malvinas), the Royal Navy ships also wound up creaking and rustling cold autumn wave ...
  36. 23424636
    23424636 7 October 2014 20: 06
    0
    a woman on a ship be trouble
  37. kelevra
    kelevra 7 October 2014 20: 11
    0
    Serdyukov in a skirt and shtrahayuschaya on deutch !!!!
  38. kosmos1980
    kosmos1980 7 October 2014 22: 14
    +1
    We will restrainedly rejoice and continue the normal re-equipment and training of our army. One must not be the best among the worst, but the best of the best. Let Europe save, be wise and learn from their mistakes. Savings on combat training do not bring to good, proved by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation From 1992 - 2012. Everything is bare enthusiasm and beyond normality.
  39. Agarkov Vitaliy
    Agarkov Vitaliy 8 October 2014 01: 04
    0
    Bravo! Save on your army and fork out for someone else's. They flashed with their minds, so flashed.
  40. Baba Valya
    Baba Valya 8 October 2014 07: 41
    0
    And I think that the hitman Merkel is simply trying to otmazatsya from an adventure in the Middle East.