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A Donetsk-based German young came out into the steppe ...

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A Donetsk-based German young came out into the steppe ...


German airborne troops from Seedorf base in the federal state of Lower Saxony (Germany) will help the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) to monitor the cease-fire in eastern Ukraine. This October 3 reported the German newspaper Bild. A representative of the Ministry of Defense of Germany confirmed this message.

Bundeswehr comes to Ukraine

The publication, referring to the relevant documents of the Ministry of Defense of Germany, reports that 200 German soldiers are planned to be involved in the mission in Ukraine. 150 of them will control the situation in the crisis area with the help of unmanned aerial vehicles. Another 50 military will guard the OSCE monitors.

The planned operation of the Bundeswehr in Ukraine is a consequence of the German-French fact-finding mission carried out in the east of Ukraine in the middle of September. The agreement on such cooperation between France and Germany was reached by French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel on the sidelines of the NATO summit in Wales.

During the mission, experts from both sides came to the conclusion that the truce between the Kiev troops and the defenders of the DPR and the LPR can be monitored with the help of drones if the personnel needed for this will be guarded by armed soldiers.

The decision on how exactly the cease-fire regime will be controlled in Ukraine will be made by the OSCE. “A joint report by Germany and France on how we can help the OSCE in its important peace mission will be submitted to the organization these days,” said German Defense Minister Ursula von der Leyen. Only after this, according to her, will the specific details of the forthcoming mission in Ukraine be specified. “Our common goal is to ensure that the situation in the east of Ukraine stabilizes and develops into a peace process,” summed up the head of the German defense department.

If this organization decides to use German UAVs in the mission, the German paratroopers will be ready to perform the task assigned to them. They will accompany the uniformed mission with the OSCE stripes, but with weapons. The German Defense Ministry believes that the participation of armed soldiers of the Bundeswehr in the mission in Ukraine will require the consent of the Bundestag.

In the footsteps of von Reichenau's 6 Army

The appearance of German paratroopers, and even in such a complex region (and questions could arise even in Lviv, not to mention the Southeast) can only agitate the minds of the people of the DPR and LPR. Already painfully strong here historical memory. The paratroopers had not yet arrived, and local publications were already reprinting the infamous order of the commander of the 6th Wehrmacht Army Field Marshal Walter von Reichenau of October 10, 1941 on the behavior of military units in the East.

This order, as is well known, demanded "strict but fair punishment for the Jewish scum of humanity" and the destruction of all partisans and underground fighters, regardless of civilian casualties. By the way, the attack of the 6 Army took place just in those places, where now the paratroopers will have to pass further service. In short, the reasons for unhealthy analogies and associations - more than enough.

Especially worried about the fact that the service of the German paratroopers in the Donbass can be delayed for a long time. First, the terms of their stay in a foreign land for them are not stipulated. Secondly, the conflict itself tends to “freeze”. In other words, a situation similar to Transnistria or Nagorno-Karabakh may repeat. In this case, the Germans will have to stay here for many years. Consequently, unpleasant moments cannot be avoided, since in the eyes of the local population they will always remain “strangers”, if not at all “occupiers.”

Meanwhile, October 3 President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko in an interview with Euronews expressed his willingness to send Belarusian peacekeepers to the Donbass to separate the warring parties. “If necessary - and this is a very dangerous and terrible thing for me - since there is Russia's distrust of the West and the West of Russia, America of Russia and Russia of America and there is a distrust of the warring parties, then I would be ready to use my armed forces to in order to separate the conflicting parties, ”the Belarusian president said.

It can be seen, the presence of Belarusians in the Donbass would be the best option in the current situation. A common language and culture, and most importantly - mutual disposition to each other is exactly what is needed in such a difficult situation.

But in Kiev, they instantly replied that they would do it on their own. “We believe that no peacekeeping troops need to be brought into Ukraine. It is necessary for the Russian Federation to fulfill the “Minsk agreements” on a cease-fire and an exchange of hostages ... The Russian Federation must withdraw its troops from the territory of Ukraine. No peacekeeping troops in Ukraine are needed. We are able to bring order to our own land if foreign troops leave it, ”said Yevgeny Perebiynis, director of the information policy department at the Foreign Ministry, on the same day.

It turned out that the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Ukraine deceived both the citizens of Ukraine and the world community. While eloquent statements were being made, an behind-the-scenes agreement had already been prepared on the arrival of German paratroopers in Ukraine.

As for the presence of the Russian military in Ukraine, no one is hiding. The Russian military does exist on the territory of Donbass, however there are not many of them, they ensure the observance of a truce. This was stated by the permanent representative of the Russian Federation to the OSCE, Andrei Kelin. According to him, at the invitation of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, about 80 Russian military arrived in Ukraine. Their task is to ensure compliance with the truce, as well as work on the map, which will create a line of demarcation between the warring armies.

Kelin also noted that work on the creation of a buffer zone, when heavy weapons will be relegated to 15 − 30 km, will begin as soon as the situation calms down. He, in particular, noted that fighting is still underway in the “security zone”, and one of the hottest spots is Donetsk Airport.

Marines need more at home

Meanwhile, the German paratroopers are much more necessary at home, in Germany, than in the Donetsk steppe far from Lower Saxony. And that's why. The Minister of the Interior of Germany, Thomas de Maiziere, recently speaking in parliament, spoke of the danger posed by local Islamists. And the Bundestag, in turn, appealed to the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution with a request to provide data on citizens of the Federal Republic of Germany who are in a combat zone in Iraq and in Syria.

It turned out that about a hundred Islamist volunteers have already returned to Germany, about 500 people still remain in the combat zone, but can come home, that is, to Germany, from day to day. In addition, more than six hundred "sympathetic" so-called. The Islamic state, but not yet leaving the territory of Germany, is being monitored.

On the danger of the participation of a large number of German volunteers in the fighting in Syria and Iraq, major German publications warned at the beginning of 2014. In particular, the newspaper Bild in February published a review of jihadists from the Federal Republic of Germany. The editorial board urged the government to "pay attention to the particular threat posed by returnees with combat experience."

Der Spiegel magazine has published a detailed report on the German camp in Syria, where military training of German-speaking militants is being conducted. Many land publications were in favor of allocating additional funds and personnel to law enforcement agencies in order to prevent the German radicals from entering the conflict zone at an early stage.

But due to the situation in Ukraine, the attention of the German political elite and controlled media over the past six months was mainly aimed at shaping the image of "Russia-invader" and "Putin-dictator." As a result, if Islamist acts of terrorism begin in Germany, the German paratroopers will not be where they are needed most.

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Of course, the presence of the German military in the Donbas can not affect the Russian-Ukrainian and Russian-German relations, and not for the better. Washington will win, again raking in the heat of someone else's hands. After all, the more strife and conflict in Europe, the easier it is to keep it under control. As for the Kiev authorities, there is not much to talk about them. Shamelessly trading in Ukraine wholesale and retail, they have long proved their anti-national essence.
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  1. pensioner
    pensioner 7 October 2014 14: 09
    +44
    By the way, the offensive of the 6th Army took place just in those places where now they will have to go on with the further service of the paratroopers.
    I wish them to repeat the fate of most soldiers of the 6th Army. Twice...
    1. makst83
      makst83 7 October 2014 14: 15
      +15
      let them fertilize the land of Ukraine, the chernozem does not happen too greasy, maybe next to relatives they will take a seat!
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 7 October 2014 14: 18
      +6
      group "center" ... what
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 7 October 2014 14: 22
        +38
        well, you’re so peasants, by golly ... guys will have something to discuss with their grandfathers upon their return ..

        70 years have passed and the Germans have changed ... but the Russians have not changed a damn ...
        the same angry and in the face strive to crack ... laughing


        I wonder how they will talk with the Azovites about Mine Kampf.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 7 October 2014 14: 45
          +10
          Quote: vorobey
          well, you’re so peasants, by golly ... guys will have something to discuss with their grandfathers upon their return ..

          Sanya, the associations are not good. They should not do anything on our land.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 7 October 2014 14: 52
            +12
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Sanya, associations are not good


            do you think their ass is off? they probably clap their hands for joy .... laughing

            Yes, they will sit like mice in the Donbass and revel in the brain ... for those who can really protect. laughing
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 7 October 2014 15: 04
              +7
              Quote: vorobey
              do you think their ass is off? they probably clap their hands for joy ..

              I don’t know, but I just don’t like uninvited guests, especially from Europe. As soldiers they are *******, there’s no sense in them, but they can be worthless.
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 7 October 2014 15: 08
                +3
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I don’t know, but I just don’t like uninvited guests


                who loves them then ...


                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                but they can make a mistake.


                will have to poke like kittens in the face ..
              2. RUSS
                RUSS 7 October 2014 15: 28
                +5
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                I don’t know, but I just don’t like uninvited guests, especially from Europe.


                Alexander, but it seems like Ukraine is not our home to talk about uninvited guests, and secondly, they were more likely to be invited. If you consider Novorossia "our land", I'm sure there are people there who are more comfortable with such guests themselves.
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        2. Heinrich ruppert
          Heinrich ruppert 7 October 2014 14: 51
          +6
          Hello old man drinks

          Quote: vorobey
          I wonder how they will talk with the Azovites about Mine Kampf.


          I don’t know about the Kampf Mine, but there will be a conversation about shelling of civilians.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 7 October 2014 14: 57
            +7
            Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
            but about shelling of civilians, the conversation will be


            Hello Henry ... what do they teach to shoot more accurately? the Swiss overwhelmed himself with a rocket from a tornado and that ... everyone yelled and fell silent ... already ... Let's see what they’re monitoring and what to start to sing ... let's see how German soldier has gotten into control ...
            sorry if abruptly ..
            1. Heinrich ruppert
              Heinrich ruppert 7 October 2014 15: 08
              +5
              Quote: vorobey
              We’ll see what they’re monitoring and what they’ll start to sing ... we’ll see how much the German soldier has squandered ...
              sorry if abruptly ..

              Sasha, everything is fine.
              They will watch, take pictures and how to sit and play play in Yugoslavia. And the point is that there should be less Swiss, although how it goes.
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 7 October 2014 15: 13
                +12
                Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
                And the point is that there should be less Swiss, although how it goes.


                Germans decided to dilute? is Merkel really so stupid as Kohl claims that he does not understand that at our genetic level a German with a gun causes not only wild allergies and anger, but also a desire to spoil the steps of the Reichstag ..

                better German with beer .. so safer for Germany itself .. laughing

                Oh duuuraaa ....

                Henry, by the way, a German, for some reason, stuck only to a German ... probably because of frequent visits .. although if you open an explanatory dictionary then they called a German before any foreigner because he spoke inexplicably. German from the word dumb ... and non-German is not Germany but generally a tanned country ...

                This is how linguists explain the origin of the word "German". Neighboring peoples who speak other languages ​​are often designated as dumb, therefore the word dumb serves as a source for alloethnonyms. We are familiar with the word German, which comes from the adjective mute. Similarly, in other Slavic languages: two Bulgarian words némets 'resident of Germany' and German 'dumb', Serbo-Croatian nijemats 'German, mute', Czech nemec 'German', Polish niemiec, Upper Sorbian nemc, Lower Sorbian nimc. Let's compare these words with the Russian word recorded in the Smolensk dialects: the German is 'a child who does not speak yet'. The word Germans has been used to denote foreign-speaking peoples since ancient times - in the Laurentian Chronicle under the year 1096 we read: Ugra, however, people are a German language, that is, 'a foreign-speaking (dumb) people'. A similar use has survived until recently, Gogol writes in a footnote to the story "The Night Before Christmas": "Anyone who comes from a foreign land is called a German, even if he is a Frenchman, or a Cesarean, or a Swede - everyone is German."
                1. Heinrich ruppert
                  Heinrich ruppert 7 October 2014 15: 22
                  +6
                  Quote: vorobey
                  Oh duuuraaa ....


                  The most accurate definition. Kohl is right, and this is one of the few strong politicians.
                  1. sgazeev
                    sgazeev 7 October 2014 19: 07
                    +4
                    Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
                    Quote: vorobey
                    Oh duuuraaa ....


                    The most accurate definition. Kohl is right, and this is one of the few strong politicians.

                    Guten Tag! One "Babette" from the Bundeswehr, sympathetic to Russia, a native of Hanover, wrote on Facebook that 1/5 of the Bundeswehr's personnel are from the republics of the USSR. According to her, it turns out that they are not going to raise arms against Russia. are there our "Cossacks" in the landing party? recourse
                    1. Heinrich ruppert
                      Heinrich ruppert 7 October 2014 19: 25
                      +3
                      Quote: sgazeev

                      Guten Tag! One "Babette" from the Bundeswehr, sympathetic to Russia, a native of Hanover, wrote on Facebook that 1/5 of the Bundeswehr's personnel are from the republics of the USSR. According to her, it turns out that they are not going to raise arms against Russia. are there our "Cossacks" in the landing party?

                      Greetings to Alexander!
                      Yes, yes, and in disanturism even more than 1/5. And nobody wants to raise weapons. Nobody wants to use weapons, they want it to end faster. Works are a normal end, but politicians are ruining the state. That is the problem.

                      P.S. Caricature super.
                    2. gaura
                      gaura 8 October 2014 07: 07
                      0
                      I had one friend in Russia mowing down everything from the army, then he moved to live with his parents in Germany and went to the Bundeswehr. I don’t know if he is serving now, 8 years have already passed when I last saw him. But do not confess the way ..
                  2. sgazeev
                    sgazeev 7 October 2014 19: 09
                    +5
                    Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
                    Quote: vorobey
                    Oh duuuraaa ....


                    The most accurate definition. Kohl is right, and this is one of the few strong politicians.
                2. tundra
                  tundra 7 October 2014 19: 39
                  +3
                  Not for nothing that the Germans do it. From the Germans with guns, the Russians still didn’t have heartburn. And if some kind of young German, d .... b, who does not know the story well, with a gun, will bark halt. I feel sorry for him in advance.
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          3. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 7 October 2014 15: 07
            +5
            Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
            but about shelling of civilians there will be a conversation.

            Hello to the patriots of Germany drinks Heinrich, when will you overthrow Merkel, it's time ........ she’s tired of me, I can’t look at her face recourse
            1. Heinrich ruppert
              Heinrich ruppert 7 October 2014 15: 16
              +6
              Hi Sash drinks
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              . She got tired of me, I can’t look at her face


              Sash is not only you, here more than half of Germany vomiting occurs when it appears. Here today RUSS wrote. A book by Helmut Kohl was published, So he said about it, "she does not think at all ....... she cannot eat with a knife and a fork ..... she walks everywhere at all government receptions."
              1. 23 region
                23 region 7 October 2014 17: 05
                +10
                Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
                Here today RUSS has already written. A book by Helmut Kohl was published, So he said about it, "she does not think at all ....... she cannot eat with a knife and a fork ..... she walks everywhere at all government receptions."

                You can take a woman out of a collective farm, a collective farm out of a woman - never.
              2. thimble
                thimble 7 October 2014 17: 44
                +2
                Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
                there is more than half of Germany with its appearance vomiting occurs.

                For some reason I feel sorry for the Germans! Well, how much you can step on the same rake. Again in the Donbass, Bendera, so also (Wehrmacht) I apologize to the Bundeswehr. Well, to hell are they (Germans) there? Again, perhaps 42-43 years. to repeat? So let them go to the Saur grave, maybe they will clean their brains. The same to me, peacekeepers are bad.
                1. Dilshat
                  Dilshat 8 October 2014 08: 36
                  0
                  As much as you are filled with pity for the enemy, you become as cruel in relation to yours. You should never forget this. These are obvious thoughts. And the Germans can be compared to a non-trained fighting dog breed. As soon as you feel your weakness, you will immediately throw yourself at your family, and the smallest ... The character of a person rarely changes, and already among the people.
              3. sgazeev
                sgazeev 7 October 2014 19: 22
                +2
                Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
                Hi Sash drinks
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                . She got tired of me, I can’t look at her face


                Sash is not only you, here more than half of Germany vomiting occurs when it appears. Here today RUSS wrote. A book by Helmut Kohl was published, So he said about it, "she does not think at all ....... she cannot eat with a knife and a fork ..... she walks everywhere at all government receptions."

                In short, Laus von Pussy. wassat My colleague’s daughter, who lives in Thuringia, writes that the Germans describe her like that. And in our crablouse. wassat
                1. Heinrich ruppert
                  Heinrich ruppert 7 October 2014 19: 30
                  +3
                  Quote: sgazeev
                  In short, Laus von Pussy. My colleague’s daughter, who lives in Thuringia, writes that the Germans describe her like that. And in our crablouse.


                  And many more.
                  Hat sich bis nach oben hochgevoegelt.

                  Protra **** upstairs but no mind
        3. INVESTOR
          INVESTOR 7 October 2014 17: 07
          0
          Europe began to be drawn into a new war ..
      2. shtanko.49
        shtanko.49 7 October 2014 15: 41
        +2
        And every second, also a hero, will go to paradise after you ....
      3. Verden
        Verden 8 October 2014 00: 05
        0
        Like Vysotsky's "Soldiers of the CENTER group are walking across Ukraine."
      4. PSih2097
        PSih2097 8 October 2014 03: 30
        +2
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        group "center" ... what

        what nah ... "center" - "South" ... "Center" through Belarus feather. read the story.
        1. Thunderbolt
          Thunderbolt 8 October 2014 03: 43
          0
          Quote: PSih2097
          read the story.
          history has nothing to do with it. V.S. Vysotsky sang".. soldiers of the" Center "group are walking across Ukrainemeans "Center" laughing Oh, this song is painfully modern and relevant in the light of the latest news ...
    3. maxiban
      maxiban 7 October 2014 14: 45
      +4
      Right-wingers will shoot these Germans and accuse, as usual, militias and Russia.
      It will stink like a Boeing.
      1. 12423 student
        12423 student 7 October 2014 16: 14
        +4
        Washington will win, again raking in the heat with the wrong hands.
        It looks like a provocation. Look, the "peacekeepers" are Germans, not Czechs, not Bulgarians, not Poles, not French, not British, and for some reason they are certainly Germans. And why?
        It seems that the Germans are phoning, it is not difficult to guess what kind of reaction the Russians will have to German soldiers.
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 7 October 2014 19: 28
          0
          Quote: student 12423
          Washington will win, again raking in the heat with the wrong hands.
          It looks like a provocation. Look, the "peacekeepers" are Germans, not Czechs, not Bulgarians, not Poles, not French, not British, and for some reason they are certainly Germans. And why?
          It seems that the Germans are phoning, it is not difficult to guess what kind of reaction the Russians will have to German soldiers.

          The blind can even see. Russia and Germany worked closely together, so they drive a wedge. To this moment, the east "whines" about socialism. recourse
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      3. Denis fj
        Denis fj 7 October 2014 23: 49
        +1
        Protect from shelling? This is original!
        Apparently, the German paratroopers are so cool that they intercept artillery shells on the fly.
    4. Giant thought
      Giant thought 7 October 2014 15: 04
      +3
      When the Bundeswehr soldiers appeared on the land of New Russia, destroy them without any pity, so that they forget the way here.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 7 October 2014 15: 06
        +5
        Quote: Giant thought
        When the Bundeswehr soldiers appeared on the land of New Russia, destroy them without any pity, so that they forget the way here.


        a gigantic thought of course ... but I'm afraid that as with cockroaches it may turn out ...

        you’ll slam a dozen so a hundred will come running to the funeral, and then they’ll remain at the funeral ...

        better to record in the militia ... the inter-brigade is there. laughing
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        1. nvv
          nvv 7 October 2014 15: 30
          +3
          Guys, if this information is bullshit, as it was already more than once on the site, the question arises inevitably, but who needs it?
          1. nvv
            nvv 7 October 2014 16: 02
            0
            Where did you all run down with shouts of "banzai" Can you imagine Hansa arrived. And this will be a provocation, here you don't go to the fortuneteller's grandmother. And then a full-scale war. What was required to prove. Do you want this?
    5. Buran
      Buran 7 October 2014 15: 54
      +3
      Zhytomyr and Cherkasy territorial battalions decided in full force to switch to the side of the militia of the Donetsk People’s Republic. Thus, the Ukrainian soldiers followed the example of the soldiers of the Kharkov Terrbattalion, who also recently decided to fight on the side of the people. As an employee of the Vostok information center with the call sign Kot said, the soldiers of the two battalions literally broke through to the militias with fights. They explained their desire to fight on the side of the people by the fact that they did not want to die for the happiness of the oligarchs.

      On October 5, fighters were forced to take up a circular defense on the outskirts of Volnovakha, security forces blocked rebel battalions, but on the night of October 6, militias began to advance from Andreevka and Novotroitsky. This allowed Cherkasy residents and parts of Zhytomyr to break out of encirclement and connect with militias.

      The Shakhtersk battalion, formerly known as the Oleg Lyashko Ukraine battalion, suffered the most in the hostilities. According to Kot, during the breakthrough Cherkasy managed to kill several dozen security officials, but they themselves lost the 24 fighter.

      During the breakthrough, fighters of territorial battalions were able to capture several nationalists, including Yuri Sinezhuk, wanted by Interpol for war crimes in Rwanda in the 1994 year. The deputy commander of the Cherkassy battalion Vladimir Melnik was also captured, who did not support the idea of ​​switching to the DPR side.


      ------ good ------
      1. nvv
        nvv 7 October 2014 16: 43
        +2
        Dmitry is great! Unless of course it's true. Recently, I stopped believing in. Is that bad.
        1. Buran
          Buran 7 October 2014 17: 02
          +1
          Yes, it seems like it has passed in RusVesna, and there they rarely distort it.
          1. nvv
            nvv 7 October 2014 17: 07
            +1
            Well, everything is in order, I left comments on the next branch, check out.
          2. sgazeev
            sgazeev 7 October 2014 19: 32
            +1
            Quote: Buran
            Yes, it seems like it has passed in RusVesna, and there they rarely distort it.

            Noteworthy information from the Donbass Center. good
    6. Army1
      Army1 7 October 2014 16: 23
      0
      History does not teach the Germans anything. Oh don’t whine later.
    7. Army1
      Army1 7 October 2014 16: 26
      0
      Natsik in Ukraine probably already obkon @@ were happy to see the Germans.
    8. sgazeev
      sgazeev 7 October 2014 16: 26
      +1
      Quote: retired
      By the way, the offensive of the 6th Army took place just in those places where now they will have to go on with the further service of the paratroopers.
      I wish them to repeat the fate of most soldiers of the 6th Army. Twice...

      And who will be their translator? Klitschko? Then it is better not to repeat the bitter experience of the 6th army. lol
    9. svp67
      svp67 7 October 2014 20: 33
      0
      Quote: retired
      I wish them to repeat the fate of most soldiers of the 6th Army. Twice...
      Then three. Since, after Stalingrad, the 6th Wehrmacht field army was recreated, but already in 1944, most of it was again surrounded during the Iasi-Chisinau operation of the Red Army ...
  2. nvn_co
    nvn_co 7 October 2014 14: 10
    +4
    Oh, no need to nama Fritz. Do not. We would have Russian peacekeepers! They both protect and control and they have drones, they do not need them (drones). Tama local to them tell everything: "who, where and why ..."
  3. Stanislav 1978
    Stanislav 1978 7 October 2014 14: 10
    +8
    Another 50 troops will guard the OSCE observers.
    As if it didn’t happen that they would not protect, but they would have to be protected.
    1. sso-xnumx
      sso-xnumx 7 October 2014 15: 43
      +1
      Just about !!! To them, for each, three more guards are needed.
      1. MBA78
        MBA78 7 October 2014 16: 19
        0
        turning a wormhole into a black hole
  4. RUSS
    RUSS 7 October 2014 14: 10
    +1
    The contingent is small, let them come to the Donbass with their own eyes to see what is happening there.
    1. smile
      smile 7 October 2014 14: 34
      +6
      RUSS
      Yes, not for that they will go there to see, but in order to help the Svidomo. And Svidomity, as in the 40s, will push girls to them with wreaths and loaves on the rushnyks.
      But the fact that reconnaissance from drones will be quickly used in the interests of the troops of the Kiev regime, which has a whip with its own air reconnaissance, and drones will climb where they want quite legally, is annoying.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 7 October 2014 14: 47
        +2
        Quote: smile
        But the fact that reconnaissance from drones will be quickly used in the interests of the Kiev regime’s troops, which has a whip with its own air reconnaissance, and drones will be there to climb where they want legally


        If everything comes true as you say, I'm sure the Novorossi authorities will take the right measures.
        1. gdv
          gdv 7 October 2014 17: 04
          0
          it’s not for them that they take drones with them to guard
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      2. sgazeev
        sgazeev 7 October 2014 19: 36
        +1
        Quote: smile
        RUSS
        Yes, not for that they will go there to see, but in order to help the Svidomo. And Svidomity, as in the 40s, will push girls to them with wreaths and loaves on the rushnyks.
        But the fact that reconnaissance from drones will be quickly used in the interests of the troops of the Kiev regime, which has a whip with its own air reconnaissance, and drones will climb where they want quite legally, is annoying.

        And why Amerian drones do not fly from near Kirovograd, big losses can. lol
  5. Neighbor
    Neighbor 7 October 2014 14: 11
    +4
    God willing and these rake.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 October 2014 14: 14
      +1
      Quote: Neighbor
      God willing and these rake.


      And for what? By the way, the Germans besides us are the only ones who carry humanitarian aid to the Donbass.
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 7 October 2014 14: 30
        0
        RUSS (1) RU  Today, 14: 14 By the way, the Germans besides us are the only ones who carry humanitarian aid to the Donbass


        ,,, how it coincided: both paratroopers and humanitarian aid? ,,, and what is being driven there?
        1. surovts.valery
          surovts.valery 7 October 2014 14: 38
          0
          Quote: bubalik
          RUSS (1) RU  Today, 14: 14 By the way, the Germans besides us are the only ones who carry humanitarian aid to the Donbass

          ,,, how it coincided: both paratroopers and humanitarian aid? ,,, and what is being driven there?

          And the same thing as in December 1941 and December 1942: warm portoki and linen, grub and cartridges. It did not help however.
        2. Heinrich ruppert
          Heinrich ruppert 7 October 2014 15: 42
          +2
          Quote: bubalik
          ,,, how it coincided: both paratroopers and humanitarian aid? ,,, and what is being driven there?


          Two submarines, 50 leopards and 100 marders laughing
        3. sgazeev
          sgazeev 7 October 2014 19: 46
          +5
          Quote: bubalik
          RUSS (1) RU  Today, 14: 14 By the way, the Germans besides us are the only ones who carry humanitarian aid to the Donbass


          ,,, how it coincided: both paratroopers and humanitarian aid? ,,, and what is being driven there?
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  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 October 2014 14: 12
    +5
    It is symbolic. It is clear that 200 German "Rambo" cannot influence the situation in any way, but. Just symbolic.
    1. MBA78
      MBA78 7 October 2014 16: 16
      0
      freezer discharge however
  7. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 7 October 2014 14: 13
    +5
    So the coffins will soon go to Germany. Merkel is completely dumb. soldier
  8. Lenar
    Lenar 7 October 2014 14: 14
    +8
    Poor guys. If they read history at school, they probably know how sad it is to go somewhere to the borders of Russia on the eve of winter.
  9. pensioner
    pensioner 7 October 2014 14: 14
    +3
    Shamelessly trading in Ukraine wholesale and retail

    How can one not remember the incorruptible: "You are talking to our family! It's a sin!" ... Why a little, that - immediately "shamelessly"? Sell, but without any pleasure yes . Sell ​​and cry ... crying
  10. kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 7 October 2014 14: 14
    +5
    It must be completely crazy or consciously go on a provocation current! The Germans killed 30.000.000 citizens of Russia and the former Union republics, I’m not sure that German speech in Ukraine will contribute to peace! Especially the German armed forces.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 October 2014 14: 18
      +2
      Quote: kod3001
      I’m not sure that German speech in Ukraine will contribute to peace!


      What about German cars?
      1. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 7 October 2014 14: 43
        +1
        If you are talking about the military with crosses then even more so! And if you are talking about civilians, you should not confuse the military with the civilians, I’ve completely talked about something else, you don’t juggle about anything else.
  11. Vyacheslav 64
    Vyacheslav 64 7 October 2014 14: 16
    +2
    Apparently they didn’t pour enough into WWII, the granddaughters decided to try those pills that their grandfathers tried.
  12. Neighbor
    Neighbor 7 October 2014 14: 16
    +6
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: Neighbor
    God willing and these rake.


    And for what? By the way, the Germans besides us are the only ones who carry humanitarian aid to the Donbass.

    Not in the Donbass and kuev.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 October 2014 14: 19
      0
      Quote: Neighbor
      Quote: RUSS
      Quote: Neighbor
      God willing and these rake.


      And for what? By the way, the Germans besides us are the only ones who carry humanitarian aid to the Donbass.

      Not in the Donbass and kuev.


      To Kharkov.
  13. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 October 2014 14: 18
    +6
    Of course, the presence of the German military in the Donbass cannot but affect Russian-Ukrainian and Russian-German relations, and not for the better. Washington will win, again raking in the heat with the wrong hands.

    This K. Merkel spoiled relations with Russia in the shortest possible time, as many Chancellor of Germany could not spoil during his time in power.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 October 2014 14: 26
      +1
      Quote: rotmistr60
      This K. Merkel spoiled relations with Russia in the shortest possible time, as many Chancellor of Germany could not spoil during his time in power.


      The memoirs of Helmut Kohl were published where he tells a lot of "interesting" about Merkel, in them he openly hints about her not quite good professional suitability.
  14. kind
    kind 7 October 2014 14: 19
    +1
    German soldiers who came to Ukraine, as a rule, do not return back. Apparently they, following the example of the Ukrainians, decided to step on the same rake! fool
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 October 2014 14: 28
      +1
      Quote: Good
      German soldiers who came to Ukraine, as a rule, do not return back.


      Well, why didn’t they come back, in 1918 they returned back and with the winners.
      1. fzr1000
        fzr1000 7 October 2014 14: 45
        +3
        For a while ...
  15. el.krokodil
    el.krokodil 7 October 2014 14: 20
    +6
    the appearance of German paratroopers is bad .. it looks like a multi-stage provocation, the consequence of which is the introduction of NATO troops into dill .. and the Germans are meat ... they will probably be sacrificed to have an incident of belli ... they will arrange shelling from the "city" to the Germans and observers. kirdyk .. as a result, hysteria towards Novorossiya and an excuse to send troops - the notorious rapid reaction corps of 5 thousand bayonets about which Rasmussen was broadcasting .. further bombing .. and along the way it was all planned and decided .. God forbid that I was wrong. ... what
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    2. 23 region
      23 region 7 October 2014 17: 18
      +1

      Quote: Kostoprav
      Quote: Novel 1977
      about 80 people now at the invitation of the General Staff of Ukraine arrived in Ukraine
      here dill misunderstood - how so? we are at war with them for 4 months, and now they were INVITED to Mariupol ..
      On our side, the military, on the German side, will also have a DIFFERENCE for the Ukropov when they will divide the country and march along a joint parade in Kiev. (there is a precedent).
  16. Patriot 1
    Patriot 1 7 October 2014 14: 21
    +3
    All this is bad. As I wrote a comment on a similar article a few days ago - all this can lead to very serious consequences ... It is clear that they climb there without a UN mandate. But! What reaction will be of Germany and of NATO as a whole on the death of their military is difficult to say ...
  17. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 7 October 2014 14: 23
    +4
    Shaw ... again?
    "Deutsche soldier..unter officer .." svidomye are generally crazy ... laughing No need to urgently take Kiev!
    1. Serjant_VS_SSSR
      Serjant_VS_SSSR 7 October 2014 16: 05
      0
      Yes, that Kiev ... Berlin and further west. And for the destroyed Donbass a couple of plants like Mercedes BMW, etc.
  18. Naum
    Naum 7 October 2014 14: 25
    +5
    Drang nach Osten? In the footsteps of great-grandfathers? Well, in vain the Fritzes poke their noses into Russia again (the outskirts have always been and is now, no matter what the Galician Austro-Hungarian Natsiks may say). The civil war on the outskirts will go out along with the so-called. "Ukraine". Lenin's project of dividing the Empire into "Republics" did not materialize due to its bastardness. The “great genius” did not understand the main thing: the people, before having their own state, must themselves become a state-forming nation, grow up to this. You can get it out of the wrong hands, but not for long. The union of mentality alien to each other, tribes and nationalities will not at once become a single people. They may for some time be united by a single misfortune or a super-task, but with the onset of "fat years" the contradictions will surely be trampled outward and a progressive split will appear. Examples - a shaft! The same Yugoslavia. There are few exceptions. Their conditions are monoculture, predominantly a single faith and mentality, a common history and a tough authoritarian ruler that guarantees economic and social stability. Didn't recognize Belarus?)))
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 October 2014 14: 36
      0
      Quote: Naum
      Drang nach Osten? In the footsteps of great-grandfathers?


      Throw out stereotypes and drop cliches, but we are not in Hollywood.
      1. Naum
        Naum 7 October 2014 16: 02
        0
        There are (or will be) armed German soldiers in Ukraine. What cliche? Where are the stereotypes and what does Hollywood have to do with it? There are objective associations and historical parallels.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 7 October 2014 17: 41
          +1
          Quote: Naum
          What cliche? Where are the stereotypes and what does Hollywood have to do with it?


          Because in Hollywood, in movies, especially in action films, there are some stereotypes especially with regards to us - vodka, balalaika, etc., just as you hear something about the German army so immediately - "Drang nach Osten"? In the footsteps of great-grandfathers? Well, in vain the Fritzes are poking their noses into Russia again
  19. domokl
    domokl 7 October 2014 14: 25
    +1
    If the Germans are sitting quietly behind their UAV control panels, then maybe they will sit either .. But the first wrong step is to them kirdyk ... And it’s not even known from anyone .. Both sides will hunt like partridges ...
    The burghers of our proverbs do not know ... But it would be necessary ... A lot of ours migrated there to 80 for sausage ...
  20. raid14
    raid14 7 October 2014 14: 26
    +4
    Scho again? Trigger, uterus, testes, milk, schnel, schnel. Germans want to step on a rake for the third time? God help you!
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 October 2014 14: 39
      -3
      Quote: raid14
      Scho again? Trigger, uterus, testes, milk, schnel, schnel. Germans want to step on a rake for the third time? God help you!


      You have an interesting association, or maybe they are going "German films" love take off tongue ? Will arrange a "casting" for Ukrainian women and that's it - "Deutsche Movie" laughing
      1. kodxnumx
        kodxnumx 7 October 2014 14: 46
        0
        Not funny! It’s gone and you yourself understand perfectly well, not to laugh.
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 7 October 2014 15: 07
          +1
          Quote: kod3001
          Not funny! It’s gone and you yourself understand perfectly well, not to laugh.


          Well now sit and cry? And write comments "how bad it is that the Germans in the Ukraine" ??? Again, you can rejoice for the hohlushek, maybe some kind of "Hans" will take it as a wife and take it home, it's better than to Russia on the highway. 're coming out-Natsik with weapons.
          1. saksan
            saksan 7 October 2014 18: 12
            0
            Quote: RUSS
            Quote: kod3001
            Not funny! It’s gone and you yourself understand perfectly well, not to laugh.


            Well now sit and cry? And write comments "how bad it is that the Germans in the Ukraine" ??? Again, you can rejoice for the hohlushek, maybe some kind of "Hans" will take it as a wife and take it home, it's better than to Russia on the highway. 're coming out-Natsik with weapons.


            Once again, women were left without men. Here they will fall under fresh tricks.
            1. sgazeev
              sgazeev 7 October 2014 20: 09
              0
              Quote: saksan
              Quote: RUSS
              Quote: kod3001
              Not funny! It’s gone and you yourself understand perfectly well, not to laugh.


              Well now sit and cry? And write comments "how bad it is that the Germans in the Ukraine" ??? Again, you can rejoice for the hohlushek, maybe some kind of "Hans" will take it as a wife and take it home, it's better than to Russia on the highway. 're coming out-Natsik with weapons.


              Once again, women were left without men. Here they will fall under fresh tricks.

              What is Taras in German? Vater calls: "Kom zu mir mein Sonn Tarashen". laughing
  21. Heinrich ruppert
    Heinrich ruppert 7 October 2014 14: 28
    +4
    Hi all!

    At 12.17 German time. Ursula von der Leyen finished speaking 2 minutes ago.
    "At the moment, 2 consultations of the participants have been held, while the goals of the action are not clear. The consultations were held jointly with Russia."

    What a "cry" that the Sixth Army is already back in Ukraine. Without the consent of Vladimir Putin, for example, no one will stick around. Become a paid media outlet. Hysteria is already here. It's time to grow up already.
    1. thimble
      thimble 7 October 2014 18: 11
      0
      Quote: Heinrich Ruppert
      Already here hysteria.

      Yes, no hysteria. Just historical associations are unpleasant. Yes, and your compatriots feel sorry.
  22. Khalmamed
    Khalmamed 7 October 2014 14: 29
    +1
    if it’s possible, it’s not a big deal, but WE HAVE OUR PEACEKEEPERS BY MIMO fifth-columnists and Gatharists, what prevents sending! Nemchura still will not return home to Merkland.
    with "Patriot 1" - I AGREE, multi-way.
    there is an opportunity to show DECISION to hammer on an igil (well, like TU-160 flew in the wrong direction and cobbled) either now or ...
  23. kotev19
    kotev19 7 October 2014 14: 36
    +2
    German paratroopers have vast experience - looking at the depth of history! Yes, an interesting noennopolitical situation for Belarus is obtained - on the one hand "A young German went out to the Donetsk steppe ..."on the other "A young American went to Latvia ..."
    On the photo - German paratroopers after the battles for Chania, the island of Crete, June 11, 1941 (ELEVEN DAYS BEFORE THE BEGINNING OF THE GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR)
    1. surovts.valery
      surovts.valery 7 October 2014 14: 52
      0
      They also have vast experience in shoveling cradles, incl. in Crete. Well, on the Eastern Front, it was hell for them. And I met the memoirs of German parachutists about this, it seems something called "Icy Hell". Something extraordinary from their military victories, only the capture of the Belgian fort of Eben Emael in 1940. Otherwise, heavy, bloody battles as simple infantry on both the Eastern and Western fronts. By the way, our Airborne Forces, too, did not shine with great successes in the Second World War. The largest: the Vyazemsk airborne operation in 1941 and in the Dnieper region in 1943. But here everything can be attributed to the miscalculations of the command and organization, which in no way diminishes the courage and military skill of the paratroopers.
  24. quote
    quote 7 October 2014 14: 41
    0

    They didn’t buy fertilizers since 1941, now the economy is in decline, the west sends fertilizers itself, having forgotten the history. Morons! They don’t learn anything. They will teach the lesson now and will restore the memory. How long will it ???
  25. Roland
    Roland 7 October 2014 14: 42
    +1
    Drive them from New Russia with a filthy broom and pissed rags! Look what you thought up! A little 45 raked ?! And they found someone to send, the Germans. They would have sent the great grandchildren of Himmler! Eurogays what the hell is your business? Keep track of your brothel better.

    Pysy: Merkel enough to shave the antennae under the nose, they grow again faster than you shave them! Thousand devils !!! Ugh !!! the Germans spoiled the whole mood !!
  26. Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 7 October 2014 14: 43
    +1
    Meanwhile, a humanitarian convoy from Germany entered the territory of Ukraine, http://news.mail.ru/politics/19753219/?frommail=1.
    I hope the cargo reaches the people of Donbass, and does not settle halfway. Let's see, observe.
    1. fzr1000
      fzr1000 7 October 2014 14: 47
      0
      What's in this "convoy"?
  27. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 7 October 2014 14: 48
    0
    Geyropa, would you sit on your land and not rock the boat anywhere, especially to the Germans in peacekeepers. After all, NATO cannot be in peacekeepers, well, who will help tear Merkel to believe after she took part in a coup in Ukraine.
  28. Turk
    Turk 7 October 2014 14: 51
    0
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Shaw ... again?
    "Deutsche soldier..unter officer .." svidomye are generally crazy ... laughing

    +100500 I, I..cork, testicle, milk laughing Durkaina.
  29. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 7 October 2014 14: 56
    +1
    Everyone here recalls the Great Patriotic War.
    In fact, the situation is more like the previous "projectile approach". The Chocolate King seems to have decided to play 1917-1918 to the end, when His Grace the Most Exalted Pan Hetman of All Ukraine kept only on foreign bayonets.
    Taking into account the fact that foreign bayonets are not the same as now, and they value their bayonet life above all else, Hetman Poroshenko with such "support" has every chance to repeat the fate of Skoropadsky. And on the wave of "what they fought for", on the bayonets of hungry soldiers from the ATO fronts and well-fed Terbats, who do not want to go to these fronts, the Directory may again come to Kiev. Fortunately, Petliur is now in Ukraine, like uncut dogs, for every taste.
    Well, how the Ukrainians of the Directory are full - maybe you yourself know who will appear. "Head tied, blood on the sleeve. A bloody trail spreads across damp grass".
  30. s30461
    s30461 7 October 2014 15: 01
    0
    Quote: Anchonsha
    Geyropa, would you sit on your land and not rock the boat anywhere, especially to the Germans in peacekeepers. After all, NATO cannot be in peacekeepers, well, who will help tear Merkel to believe after she took part in a coup in Ukraine.

    And who said that Merkel generally needs to be trusted? Everything is done contrary to common sense ...
    The ukrofashists were especially pleased with the statement about the need to "withdraw Russian troops from Ukraine." At every opportunity, they try to record these troops, but since they are actually not there, then at least in speeches you need to try to somehow make everyone understand that they do exist. In general, the Minsk Agreement is increasingly taking the form of a farce, and, unfortunately, is being used against Novorossiya and Russia.
  31. ISKANDER25
    ISKANDER25 7 October 2014 15: 10
    0
    Hello! Under the cover of the OSCE, NATO is seeping into Ukraine! What happens if one of these Hans is shot down ??? request
    1. Commissar of the NKVD
      Commissar of the NKVD 7 October 2014 16: 26
      0
      What will happen? Screeching, like in an unfed pigsty, up to heaven, as always, Russia will be to blame for everything, even if the “shot down” in real life from drinking will give up the anchor. So, after all, they send military personnel, not nursery group educators.
  32. wladimir
    wladimir 7 October 2014 15: 14
    0
    Everything is much more complicated. Merkel has been building 4 Reich for a long time, and these brave guys will be needed to protect him. own
    in Ukraine (and this is Russia)
  33. Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 7 October 2014 15: 18
    +2
    Let them urgently learn the spell "Merkel Kaput"!
  34. Bassoon
    Bassoon 7 October 2014 15: 18
    0
    It will be fun if the Bundeswehr will go over to the side of the BCH along with standard weapons and equipment.
  35. lis-ik
    lis-ik 7 October 2014 15: 27
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: vorobey
    do you think their ass is off? they probably clap their hands for joy ..

    I don’t know, but I just don’t like uninvited guests, especially from Europe. As soldiers they are *******, there’s no sense in them, but they can be worthless.

    The Germans were good soldiers in life, and it was not their fault that the tolerant rulers and Europe as a whole did the take-off, but agreed to do no more crap on Russian soil.
    1. Non-war
      Non-war 7 October 2014 15: 59
      +2
      The Germans were good soldiers in life, and it was not their fault that the tolerant rulers and Europe as a whole took off ... - yes, the paradox however happened in the last 60 years. The best soldiers became the best traders, and the best traders became the best soldiers.
  36. Signature
    Signature 7 October 2014 15: 31
    +1
    For me, if there is a body (moreover, in the form of any aircraft), which heroically and honestly (besides, - excuse me for the hint, - without pretending that it is located in a completely different place), will cover the civilians of the Southeast from artillery and missile attacks by the banderite-feeds - this will be an unconditional progress.
    Moreover, the fascist boot is again confidently trampling the land of Ukraine for more than a month - namely, from February-March 2014. To pretend that this is not so is to not know how it looks in real life, and simply desperately not want to know how.
    Another thing is that it is extremely unlikely that a soldier of the Bundeswehr would turn out to be - for no reason or at all (and God knows why) - a natural peacemaker for himself (perhaps according to the formula "a wolf is a forest orderly").
    So after all, not adherents of the idea of ​​Novorossiya called ("on their own head") the OSCE (from which so far - not so much a benefit as additional troubles for the militias). And while "for" and "on" Novorossiya is being played, meaning that in principle (if it really wants to) it can still be sacrificed, it is permissible to make noise about the illegitimacy of a German boot on Ukrainian black soil, but there’s a real sense of this noise hardly worth it.
  37. makarick
    makarick 7 October 2014 15: 34
    +1
    Well ... do not shame the memory of grandfathers!
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 October 2014 15: 53
      0
      Quote: makarick
      Well ... do not shame the memory of grandfathers!


      What will be the suggestions?
  38. RUSS
    RUSS 7 October 2014 15: 42
    +2
    And yet, someone can specifically answer what scared you and what are your doubts and embarrassments about the arrival of ALL ONLY in the amount of 200 German soldiers ??????? Does the devil have big eyes? Or is this handful of invincible cyborgs ??? request
    1. AnpeL
      AnpeL 7 October 2014 16: 03
      0
      It is said: "... a German with a gun causes a persistent dislike in a Russian person (or something like that)." And therefore, one German with a gun is not needed. With a beer on a fishing trip, in nature, we ask you for mercy, but with guns, as soon as he comes, he only stays in the ground.
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      2. 23 region
        23 region 7 October 2014 18: 04
        +1
        Quote: AnpeL
        It is said: "... a German with a gun causes a persistent dislike in a Russian person (or something like that)." And therefore, one German with a gun is not needed. With a beer on a fishing trip, in nature, we ask you for mercy, but with guns, as soon as he comes, he only stays in the ground.

        I repeat, well, it hurts, well said.
    2. Roland
      Roland 7 October 2014 16: 47
      0
      The very fact of their stay.
  39. Non-war
    Non-war 7 October 2014 15: 54
    +1
    150 of them will control the situation in the crisis area using unmanned aerial vehicles. - I think that in this phrase the dog is buried. Most likely, the military-technical support promised by the West begins with Ukraine, everything is done under the guise of international missions, monitoring the situation, etc. The Ukrainian army has to deal with drones at the seams, if it weren’t for volunteers from flying clubs, it would have been complete ales. But it’s not enough to pass drones - they still need specialists, they are not in the Ukrainian army, so 150 specialists from Germany are coming. Officially - to monitor the situation in the conflict zone, in fact - to merge the intelligence of the Ukrainian army.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 7 October 2014 16: 03
      +2
      Quote: Non-war
      Most likely, the military-technical support promised by the West begins


      Speculation, time will tell.

      And I will repeat a little more about who is now more dangerous in Ukraine, German fascism was destroyed in the 45th, and the Benderyo raged in Ukraine until the 54th, so they are evil and trouble in Ukraine, and not these 200 "burghers".
    2. kotev19
      kotev19 7 October 2014 19: 26
      0
      Let the German fox into the Ukrainian chicken coop! Ha ha ha ... wassat
  40. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 7 October 2014 15: 57
    +1
    Quote: Anchonsha
    Geyropa, would you sit on your land and not rock the boat anywhere, especially to the Germans in peacekeepers. After all, NATO cannot be in peacekeepers, well, who will help tear Merkel to believe after she took part in a coup in Ukraine.


    The fact that Fryau Merkel fell abruptly, spitting on her own, only says that it seems that the Chunga Chang promised to return Germany 200 billion, which are stored by the Yankees, and which they do not give them back. As well as everyone else. hi
  41. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 7 October 2014 16: 04
    +3
    A Donetsk-based German young came out into the steppe ...
  42. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 7 October 2014 16: 05
    +2
    Option number two (clickable):
  43. kompotnenado
    kompotnenado 7 October 2014 16: 13
    +1
    Well sho kakoliki, cook the trigger, the egg, the milk.
  44. Commissar of the NKVD
    Commissar of the NKVD 7 October 2014 16: 23
    0
    NATO sent intelligence? Fritz 40s forgot? Well, what a misfortune, why we should constantly serve as a cure for amnesia ...
  45. Stinger
    Stinger 7 October 2014 16: 24
    +1
    Again we hear: Rus, give up resistance is useless, are you surrounded? It is necessary to bring them in November to Stalingrad. On a tour. It is possible for free, as humanitarian aid.
  46. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 7 October 2014 16: 39
    +3
    I think they themselves are not happy that they are sent there.
  47. Yutas
    Yutas 7 October 2014 16: 51
    +1
    The Germans lost their memory, apparently. They can refresh. I admit that they can only be engaged in observation in order to control the ceasefire. But if I accidentally fall into such a militia’s hot hand, I don’t even know. But the German will definitely remember everything.
  48. NEXUS
    NEXUS 7 October 2014 16: 56
    +2
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    group "center" ... what

    but under this case, supply dill with weapons ... what is not a topic for reflection?
  49. Yugra
    Yugra 7 October 2014 17: 03
    0
    Fertilizer from the young fascists will not interfere with the Donetsk land. As soon as the losses from the fascists begin, they will run back to their oktoberfest
  50. andrejwz
    andrejwz 7 October 2014 17: 10
    +1
    Particularly worrying is the fact that the service of German paratroopers in the Donbass may drag on for a long time.

    Well, let's say, two hundred units from the Wehrmacht won't last long. And Germany, apparently, is looking for reasons for further confrontation with Russia. After all, they know that you can't put your fingers in the socket, no, they'll stick it in, and then go into a "righteous" hysteria.