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The militia of Novorossiya modernized LNG-9, increasing its firing range

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The engineers of Novorossiya improved the Victoria milling grenade launcher, firing anti-tank and high-explosive fragmentation rockets. Due to the lengthening of the "tripod", they raised the gun above the ground and thereby increased its firing range, transmits the channel LifeNews.



Now fighters can shoot from closed firing positions for a distance of more than 4 km. This is necessary for retaliatory strikes on artillery calculations of the Ukrainian security forces.

"Usually it was almost impossible to shoot fragmentation shells from closed positions with a grenade launcher"- explained one of the militia (call sign "Fox").

According to him, the LNG-9 modernized in a similar way was seen in a dream by the well-known commander of the Motorola militia. He invited the technicians to work with "Victoria".

The channel reminds that on October 3 the militiamen fully established control over the Donetsk airport. However, the APU continue to attempt to return the strategically important object. At the same time, they bombard not only the area of ​​the airport, but also the sleeping areas adjacent to it.

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  1. Tyumen
    Tyumen 6 October 2014 15: 09
    +57
    So myths are created- * Motorola saw in a dream *. Straight Mendeleev with a table.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 6 October 2014 15: 11
      +35
      at one time there was a legend man with a detachment - Gyurza. The legend is also General Rokhlin.

      A new war showed new heroes - Motorola. Shooters, Brain and so on.

      From these examples it is clear that the Russian people do not degenerate. He focuses to show a feat in a new time in a new war.

      15 year old militia with call sign - Roy, as Be confirms
      1. Paradoxov
        Paradoxov 6 October 2014 15: 26
        +33
        And who has what against? The legends and myths about the heroes of New Russia, are they all right, or didn’t they deserve it? The Latest History is being written! am

        ZNR partisans in action:
        On the night of October 6, 2014, the 3rd squadron of the Zaporizhzhya-Dnieper-Mariupol partisan brigade named after Nestor Ivanovich Makhno attacked the military commissariat in the urban-type settlement of Vysokopolye - the district center of Vysokopolsky district of Kherson region.

        During the operation, the military registration and enlistment office file was destroyed, and the hard disks of the computers in the military enlistment office were seized. A small number of small arms were also captured.

        The previous night, in the neighboring Velikoaleksandrovsky district, soldiers of the 3rd squadron, disguised as enemy uniforms, stopped a paddy wagon in which they transported arrested conscripts who did not want to serve in the nationalist army. The convoy was disarmed and locked in its own wagon, and the prisoners were released. One of them expressed a desire to join the partisans. The rest, fearing for the fate of families, decided to return home. Together with their relatives, they intend to make their way to the sea and cross over to the Crimea on light boats, as many residents of the forced Kherson region are doing now.
        znr

        1. ispaniard
          ispaniard 6 October 2014 15: 47
          +27
          Quote: Paradoxov
          Together with their relatives, they intend to make their way to the sea and cross over to the Crimea on light boats, as many residents of the forced Kherson region are doing now.

          Hmm ... Crimea for Ukraine is now like a "Peninsula of Freedom" and, unlike Cuba, this is not sarcasm ...
          1. lukke
            lukke 6 October 2014 17: 59
            +9
            just yesterday returned from the Crimea ... near the local department of the FMS (near Ostryaki) a crowd of people. I talked with a local self-defense activist - he already had the third court hearing on the issue of obtaining Russian citizenship, because although he worked in Crimea for the last five years, he has awards for recent events, but he is constantly registered in Dnepropetrovsk. And formally, his judges football as they want. Most of the judges themselves are not Crimeans, but envoys of the previous authorities. Just as the judges have everything always in order - and there is a residence permit in the Crimea and the housing itself and no one has yet been stripped of their posts. So people still slurp our bureaucratic system with local calorie
        2. kodxnumx
          kodxnumx 6 October 2014 16: 00
          -9
          Squadron of Nestor Makhno hi
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 6 October 2014 16: 34
            +1
            Quote: kod3001
            Squadron of Nestor Makhno hi


            Very similar to a fake.
          2. Sergey Vl.
            Sergey Vl. 6 October 2014 17: 10
            +12
            Ниwho nиwhich does not remind, but N.I.Makhno was a knight of the Order of the Battle Red Banner.
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            2. GRANATE-19
              GRANATE-19 6 October 2014 21: 39
              +3
              Quote: Sergey Vl.
              Ниwho nиwhich does not remind, but N.I.Makhno was a knight of the Order of the Battle Red Banner.

              Just a gentleman of the Order of the Red Banner ...
              The Order of LABOR RED Banner was established by the Decree of the Central Executive Committee and Council of People's Commissars of the USSR of September 7, 1928, that is, much later than the first order of the new state:
              The order of the Order was the badge of the Order of the Red Banner of the RSFSR, established on September 16, 1918 during the Civil War by a decree of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee. Originally called the Order of the Red Banner. During the Civil War, similar orders were also established in other Soviet republics. On August 1, 1924, the All-Union Order of the Red Banner was established, the external difference of which was the inscription "USSR" instead of "RSFSR" on the ribbon on the bottom of the laurel wreath. All orders of the Soviet republics, which were awarded in 1918-1924, were equated with the All-Union Order. The statute of the order was approved by the Decree of the Presidium of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR of January 11, 1932 (on June 19, 1943 and December 16, 1947 changes and additions were made to this Decree by Decrees of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR). The latest version of the statute of the order was approved by Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme Soviet of the USSR of March 28, 1980.
              Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
          3. Kapitan Oleg
            Kapitan Oleg 6 October 2014 17: 50
            +1
            Maybe all the same to them. Kovpak, not Makhno?
        3. FACKtoREAL
          FACKtoREAL 6 October 2014 16: 12
          +3
          et Th WHOLE partisan DIVISION brigade fellow attacked the rural military registration desk ??! belay
          "Underground OBKOM - WORKS!" soldier
          dill! crying
          - ROOT BREAK in the war came at ..
          conducting the Vysokopolsky strategic offensive operation Old Man Makhno! drinks
          maybe ... what
          The lads slammed the PERSHAK, and, ...
          "Let's burn the VUS so that in winter we won't freeze snot in Donbass for a dog's KER ?!"
          wassat
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    3. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 6 October 2014 15: 13
      +35
      Quote: Tyumen
      So myths are created- * Motorola saw in a dream *.
      - You shouldn’t be so. Personally, I once dreamed of an optimal solution for one of my projects. When the same thoughts constantly spin in my head - there is a high probability that this will begin to dream! hi
      1. Tyumen
        Tyumen 6 October 2014 15: 53
        +3
        Why in vain, I’m without sarcasm. Or without a smiley, no one understands humor? Although, here a long time because of this in the minuses.)
    4. ispaniard
      ispaniard 6 October 2014 15: 15
      +11
      Well, why not? Motorola in its business (military) can be equated with Mendeleev (in chemistry) and Mozart (in music).
      Plus for Ukropov there will be a dilemma of how to fall asleep by yourself so that when you wake up there is finally at least some sort of PEREMOGA!))))))))))
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    7. siberalt
      siberalt 6 October 2014 15: 26
      +6
      Is this a fake, or what? So, soon we will learn to launch "satellites" into space from the RPG from the DPR and LPR. The equipment would be more powerful. Although, what the hell is not joking while God sleeps laughing Are there normal physicists or artillerymen on the forum? Why are we silent? Or just e-cached minus one?
      1. russmensch
        russmensch 6 October 2014 18: 16
        +4
        As an artilleryman I inform you: Shooting from closed firing positions is carried out at an elevation angle of more than 0 degrees. LNG 9 has an elevation angle of -3 to +25 degrees. for high-explosive fragmentation shells. At the same time, the firing range without alteration is 4,5 km for HE shells. The video is not clear due to which the lengthening of the two supports makes it possible to shoot at long distances. Now about shooting from closed fire positions. SPG9 has a PGOK-9 sight, the device of which allows firing from a closed firing position. But then you need a spotter fire.
        1. Vyalik
          Vyalik 6 October 2014 19: 51
          +2
          Due to the larger angle. The shooter says that earlier it was necessary to dig under the breech, in order to put it this way, to lift the barrel in general.
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          2. GRANATE-19
            GRANATE-19 6 October 2014 22: 20
            +2
            Quote: Wyalik
            Due to the larger angle. The shooter says that earlier it was necessary to dig under the breech, in order to put it this way, to lift the barrel in general.

            russmensch gunner, but knows what to say about anti-tank guns ...
            I want to ask, but in general, whoever during the service and during the war was interested in anything other than his established WMD or not? For example, I’m an AGSnik, but usually in motorized rifle regiments a grenade launcher and an anti-tank platoon are together, so I had to work with the SPG-9M and carry it in the mountains, even in one snout ... and a lot of what else I learned to shoot on my own initiative, including in civilian life ...
            Whoever fired from it knows that before firing the LNG, the gunner always gives the command "ATTENTION SHOT" and a shot is fired, since the danger zone behind the LNG is 100 meters (RPG-7 is 30 meters), that is, if you are standing behind it, then your legs will be smoked at least, but in fact if someone is at a close distance, then something like a mine-explosive injury ...
            At the same time, if shooting is done by separate aiming, that is, at high elevation angles, then you need to break through the trench to remove powder gases or shoot from the side of a hill or mountain, just as if shooting from the most closed position, that is, only the barrel with an aim sticks out , then the trench for the removal of powder gases must also be dug, and if you want to make lightning-fast fire raid you do not have time to dig trenches ...
            In other words, the machine is improved for shooting with large elevation angles from unprepared positions by separate aiming, while the removal of powder gases occurs naturally in free space due to the high setting of the gun (the gunner is standing up) ...
            By the way, the idea is not new, and whoever fought in Chechnya saw something else, the Afghan Mujahideen and Arabs brought a lot to it, so this dream is repeated, but I do not claim that this assignment ...
            And this greatly increases the potential of the weapon and the possibility of a quick fire attack on the enemy ...
            Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
            afterword. I wanted to say a lot, including about the use of such devices and my skills, but I forgot a lot after the excitement from the memories and perhaps it’s not worth it.
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            2. GRANATE-19
              GRANATE-19 6 October 2014 22: 40
              +2
              Pay attention to the position, the removal of powder gases during firing occurs in free space:


              Pay attention to the damaged turf and exposed ground after several shots, this was due to a stream of powder gases

              In the picture you see shooting in the mountains, but it is very similar to shooting with separate aiming, at which the elevation angle is much larger, it is achieved by the machine (the front leg of the machine is raised and the rear legs are lowered-rested in the ground). Pay attention to the barrel is raised and the nozzle is looking down - under a small slope.
              1. GRANATE-19
                GRANATE-19 7 October 2014 00: 35
                0
                Yes, and I completely forgot to put LNG on and off, as the grenade has plumage and, when the trunk is low, it just snaps into the ground and sticks into it ...
                The length of the tripod is also increased for shooting due to obstacles ...
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            3. montemor
              montemor 7 October 2014 01: 15
              0
              I take off my hat to an experienced person. If possible, write an article, or better, a series of articles about "application features." Unfortunately, the time comes when this knowledge is worth its weight in gold, and civilians who have to learn from their own mistakes increasingly have to fight hi
    8. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 6 October 2014 15: 38
      +3
      Quote: Tyumen
      So myths are created- * Motorola saw in a dream *. Straight Mendeleev with a table.


      And for some reason, no, "it is not the gods who burn the pots."
    9. Giant thought
      Giant thought 6 October 2014 16: 08
      +5
      The need for fiction is much - so it has been for centuries in Russia.
      1. muhomor
        muhomor 6 October 2014 16: 51
        +3
        fool What's wrong? Absolutely what? Tabular firing range SPG-9 OF grenade-4500 meters. The height of the machine does not matter! Well, let's! 5 meters high machine blind! Gunners ....!
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 6 October 2014 20: 07
          +1
          You are speaking correctly. Only those unaware of school physics can claim this. And the range characteristics are as follows:
          maximum firing range - 1300 m (anti-tank) or 4500 m (anti-personnel);
          direct shot range - 800 m;
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    11. jaguar
      jaguar 6 October 2014 16: 08
      +1
      Nonsense, it’s impossible to shoot from CNG from closed positions !!! When fired, a jet stream of gases 30 meters is formed. He personally shot from RPG-7..16..26 and 28.
      1. FACKtoREAL
        FACKtoREAL 6 October 2014 16: 39
        +4
        firing at 4500 m (anti-personnel) at the SPG-9 and so on in the STANDARD ...
        concerning...
        Shooting from closed positions - conducting artillery fire on targets that are not in direct line of sight from a firing position. The direct opposite of it is direct fire, when the gunner sees the target, breaks and personally conducts fire adjustment.
        And where does the length of the jet of gases from the shot?
        Militia bipod built up for SUSTAINABILITY .. and that's it!
        More modernization is not noticeable ...
        Shot use - standard decomposition.?!?!
      2. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 6 October 2014 20: 13
        +2
        And why then there is an elevation angle of 25 degrees, almost like howitzers, but not for firing from closed positions.

        Elevation angle: + 7 ° (shot PG-9В), -3 ° + 25 ° (shot ОГ-9В).
    12. GRAMARI111
      GRAMARI111 6 October 2014 16: 22
      +10
      but about these heroes then people like you say - "nonsense"
    13. BOB044
      BOB044 6 October 2014 17: 39
      +1
      And you, besides women, have nothing to dream about.
    14. Artyom
      Artyom 6 October 2014 20: 40
      +1
      They made such a healthy tripod for weightless shooting, a sort of recoilless howitzer, previously there was a video where the guys put the LNG on the boxes, shot through the fence to increase the angle. It’s also convenient to shoot from the window :)
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      2. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 6 October 2014 23: 56
        +2
        Quote: Artyom
        It’s also convenient to shoot from a window :)

        God forbid you to shoot from a window, that is, from an enclosed space, even from an RPG-7, and even more so from an SPG-9M, since you will fly out of the window in the wake of the grenade, since the gas stream in a closed room creates pressure, which it’s like a mini explosion, but it always goes in the direction of least resistance, that is, out the window with the arrow.
        You can shoot from the window if the house is destroyed and there are no obstacles or people behind the nozzle, because the danger zone is 100 meters ...
        Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
        1. DRA-88
          DRA-88 7 October 2014 00: 21
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          Quote: GRANATE-19
          God forbid you to shoot from a window, that is, from an enclosed space, even from RPG-7, and even more so from SPG-9M,

          So it turns out! wassat
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  2. Khalmamed
    Khalmamed 6 October 2014 15: 09
    -9
    and also WE kill FORCE OF THOUGHT!
  3. cosmos111
    cosmos111 6 October 2014 15: 10
    +12
    the main problem, now with ammunition ... Voentorg is closed ...
    1. muhomor
      muhomor 6 October 2014 16: 59
      +4
      am Nightmare! There is no panorama! How are you pointing in the direction? Semi-automatic does not work, the sleeve is not extracted. All! Got food! We need to put things in order even on the fire!
    2. FACKtoREAL
      FACKtoREAL 6 October 2014 17: 07
      +2
      on the trunk suggests? belay
      laughing
  4. Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 6 October 2014 15: 11
    +9
    Motorola and technology.
    Airport splinter in the ass.
    Meanwhile, the fucking truce is in full swing, again many killed in Donetsk.
    Something our politicians have fooled, which is becoming much worse than it was. Or maybe they wanted it better, but it turned out, as always sad
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 6 October 2014 15: 17
      +6
      Our politicians only respond to challenges. The plan is written in the premises of the SBU, which rented the CIA. We can only respond to what has happened.

      Voentorg, it's time to open soldier
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 6 October 2014 15: 49
        +5
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        . We can only respond to what has happened.

        What a recent passive reaction.
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        Voentorg, it's time to open

        Nehru was close! And I'm not sure what they will open.
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    3. schizophrenic
      schizophrenic 6 October 2014 15: 37
      +1
      There are scuba gears, you can try, but best of all, with a closed system, devices. Filled with kerosene, blew up, who didn’t burn, he suffocated, put on the apparatus, and until the next door, undermined, it would be dangerous, though there would be no ventilation, otherwise you could breathe
  5. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 6 October 2014 15: 11
    +4
    What valuable dreams Motorola has, but in general it's sad that the fighters have to get out of hand, as in that saying: "the need for inventions is cunning."
  6. father nikon
    father nikon 6 October 2014 15: 12
    +2
    Well done! The need for inventions is cunning, but the dill press is stubbornly talking about the unprecedented Wunderwaff in the militia and the endless military assistance to Russia!
    1. doctor
      doctor 6 October 2014 15: 15
      +1
      You can and should help. Only under the heading "top secret" And the hell knows how the militia got so much ammunition. However, the APU also copes with this task perfectly.
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      2. GRANATE-19
        GRANATE-19 7 October 2014 00: 21
        0
        Quote: Doctor
        Only under the heading "top secret"

        Under the heading "SPECIAL IMPORTANCE" who knows what it means, he will understand.
        And believe me, I'm not exaggerating at all.
        Sincerely, I express my humble opinion.
  7. nvn_co
    nvn_co 6 October 2014 15: 14
    +3
    "According to him, the similarly modernized SPG-9 was seen in a dream by the famous commander of the Motorola militia"Straight Mendeleev ... smile Well done, well done! And if you look at it, the modernization of weapons in combat conditions is the key to the success of this event. Many smart people serve in the militia. Judging by many photos and shots, they have already adapted and modernized a lot of things. Russian people have always been wise and clever at such inventions. It is not without reason that they say: "the need for invention is cunning!" Folk wisdom never lied, but always spoke the truth! Well done, keep it up! soldier
  8. quote
    quote 6 October 2014 15: 14
    +2
    Well, on the lack of fish and lobster cancer. All the same, well done. When fired, the bed does not even twitch.
    1. muhomor
      muhomor 6 October 2014 17: 08
      +3
      Bed and should not twitch! CNG-RELAXABLE!
  9. nvn_co
    nvn_co 6 October 2014 15: 16
    +3
    I’ve written from the damn, I’ve already written everything I wanted to say, but anyway, I’m happy for the militias! smile
  10. gormih
    gormih 6 October 2014 15: 19
    +2
    With geometry and ballistics does not fit very well, but oh well - we take a word. Let the enemies be afraid! :)
  11. romashki74
    romashki74 6 October 2014 15: 20
    +3
    Yes, with the truce boys go *** ali. And then maybe they have already sent cookies to Kiev from this "halabuda"! Well, God give them strength and health anyway!
    1. gormih
      gormih 6 October 2014 15: 22
      0
      Quote: romashki74
      And then maybe already in Kiev from this "halabuda" cookies have already been sent!

      Point-U should be captured accidentally on the road. Then, exactly in Kiev, straight Parache in the paws ...
  12. MuadDib
    MuadDib 6 October 2014 15: 22
    0
    Dear VO visitors, is there any fresh info on the terrorist attack in Grozny?
  13. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 6 October 2014 15: 23
    +2
    From LNG from closed positions? As I understand it, the reason for this alteration was the ceasefire conditions: the withdrawal of artillery systems with a caliber of more than 100 mm and MLRS from the front line?

    Otherwise, the PDO could have continued to use 9P132 Grad-P for fire, the reserves of which in the warehouses of Ukraine seem to be inexhaustible. Or roll out the same "Carnations" / D-30.
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 6 October 2014 20: 19
      0
      Want to know how to shoot dill? They charge one shot at one target. On the other - another shot. If they fired full ammunition in the city, then on a vast area there would be no buildings, trees, or people. They have to save shots.
  14. Appius
    Appius 6 October 2014 15: 23
    +3
    During the fighting, engineering works better, new types of weapons appear, previously developed ones are improved.
  15. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 6 October 2014 15: 25
    +9
    Well, very good ...

    Motorola is the national hero of New Russia
    The militia of New Russia demonstrates both desire and readiness for the following battles:


    abandoned Ukrainian military equipment is being repaired
    Modernization of existing samples




    self-propelled installation ATGM 9M113 "Fagot" based on UAZ-469
    The production of our own submachine gun has begun:

    1. wanderer_032
      wanderer_032 6 October 2014 19: 28
      +1
      By the way, local booking of the UAZ-469 car presented in the photo was made for artisanal conditions at a very qualified level.
      And as for the SPG-9 with a modernized machine, I can only say that everything ingenious is simple.
  16. DAYMAN
    DAYMAN 6 October 2014 15: 25
    +3
    Quote: Tyumen
    So myths are created- * Motorola saw in a dream *. Straight Mendeleev with a table.

    It's not bad.
    I don’t know if you jerk or just joke ...
    Myths and legends are also needed.
    And happy for the DIY!
    drinks
  17. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 6 October 2014 15: 26
    +3
    About dreams it's true! My experience: - I had a view from the audience’s window in a technical school - I only saw it live after six months of training; - dreamed of a specific entrance to the barracks of the military school - and this turned out to be our barracks fellow
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 6 October 2014 19: 30
      0
      What if the Gates of Hell dream of! laughing Who will we serve?
      Before my tenth exam, I dreamed that I knew physics perfectly. Imagine, I had to answer almost all the tickets before the commission. But the dream came true.
  18. Wiruz
    Wiruz 6 October 2014 15: 31
    +2
    They are walking along the right road! Mikhail Timofeevich, too, from childhood "raved" about the ideas of creating a perpetual motion machine. And he created winked
  19. vdtomsk
    vdtomsk 6 October 2014 15: 33
    +10
    Great words, great man!
  20. Akvadra
    Akvadra 6 October 2014 15: 36
    0
    I saw on the video before. Immediately under-patched, I had to smash my head. He received confirmation of his thoughts in the article. Thank . I also saw home-made mortars from mine racks and motorcycle parts. It’s hard without a WoT.
  21. siberalt
    siberalt 6 October 2014 15: 37
    0
    Quote: ispaniard
    Well, why not? Motorola in its business (military) can be equated with Mendeleev (in chemistry) and Mozart (in music).
    Plus for Ukropov there will be a dilemma of how to fall asleep by yourself so that when you wake up there is finally at least some sort of PEREMOGA!))))))))))

    If Motroll is Mendeleev, then Givi is a nuclear physicist and Suvorov concurrently. laughing Do not troll normal men. They do their job. And, very well done. No, I understand why, but as Givi saw in the video, I just can’t calm down that I had such a friend in my life, but many other names pop up in my memory. There was such a prototype, even kill!
  22. Funnels
    Funnels 6 October 2014 15: 46
    +3
    The need for invention is cunning, cheap and cheerful.
  23. wanderer
    wanderer 6 October 2014 15: 47
    +2
    Motorola’s head works - a fact.
    Kalashnikov was born a simple man, ... from the hinterland, and who he became ???
    There were, are and will be military nuggets in Russia !!!
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    2. siberalt
      siberalt 6 October 2014 19: 44
      0
      Well, I'm from the same hinterland about 30 kilometers away. Kalashnikov is not an inventor (unlike the "motorola"), but a talented designer. Which in no way begs for its uniqueness.
  24. sub307
    sub307 6 October 2014 16: 03
    0
    Normal move with a lack of "regular" artillery ....
  25. Viktor Kudinov
    Viktor Kudinov 6 October 2014 16: 06
    +1
    And for some reason I only dream about my bosses, women and children. No - a hand collider to disperse enemies at superluminal speeds or, at worst, an ultra-long-range typhoon spear-gun with homing tips.
  26. s30461
    s30461 6 October 2014 16: 07
    +1
    Quote: Dazdranagon
    Quote: Tyumen
    So myths are created- * Motorola saw in a dream *.
    - You shouldn’t be so. Personally, I once dreamed of an optimal solution for one of my projects. When the same thoughts constantly spin in my head - there is a high probability that this will begin to dream! hi

    I often dream of such things. But here it is 50/50 - sometimes it turns out just perfect, and sometimes it does not fit at all: in a dream it does not quite agree with the original, the brain itself comes up with something. Or maybe he just "works out the options." I just want to see a dream about the ruins of Washington - until I dreamed ... but I really want to ...
  27. zen-do.ru
    zen-do.ru 6 October 2014 16: 09
    +2
    State Department response:
  28. pv1005
    pv1005 6 October 2014 16: 13
    0
    So he had shot at TTX at 4500m OG-9 before. And what is meant by shooting from closed positions? If sheltering is one thing, and if shooting through (on top) obstacles (houses, woods, hills from a ravine) is different and LNG is not intended for this, it is not a mortar or howitzer. And based on the plot, only the machine that could not affect the characteristics of the barrel and the shot went through modernization. Something like this. Although not an artilleryman, if I am mistaken, correct. Although if the peasants burned out of this venture in relation to local conditions, then well done.
    1. runway
      runway 6 October 2014 20: 33
      0
      Think correctly. Shooting from closed firing positions (PDOs) means firing when the enemy’s target is not visible from the firing position.
      The modernized SPG-9M, in addition to firing from open fire positions, was just intended for firing from a PDO at a distance of up to 4,5 km. To do this, he was designed with a retractable front telescopic leg and a mortar sight in a block with an optical PGO-9 - it turned out PGO-9M))). As a result, the grenade launcher could be given an elevation angle of up to 45 degrees. The fragmentation grenade equipped with okfol (explosive of increased power) is not inferior in terms of characteristics to a gap of 76 mm of the projectile. In capable hands, a grenade launcher is a serious weapon, and if two, then a terrible force laughing
  29. Everest2014
    Everest2014 6 October 2014 16: 13
    0
    Cucumbers "Uncle Vanya", a little lower and a smaller font "kosher", on the back side "made in Indonesia" - damn it globalization :) Therefore, I am not surprised at 100% democratic bacon in a tin can.
  30. RUSS
    RUSS 6 October 2014 16: 39
    0
    According to him, the similarly modernized SPG-9 was seen in a dream by the famous commander of the Motorola militia

    Another series from "The Legends and Saga of Novorossiya".
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 6 October 2014 17: 36
      +1
      I do not think this is a legend.
      Several times, problem solving (mathematics) came precisely in a dream.
      It all depends on the fitness of the mind and the degree of concentration.
      Ask the people of science - they will confirm this.
      Well, for those who have never strained their minds, of course these are fairy tales.
  31. Explore
    Explore 6 October 2014 16: 59
    +3
    Valery Grebenev
    The battalion of "Cherkasy" broke through to the militias and switched to their side

    Already on the weekend, from various sources in Novorossia, they began to report that the 10th and 14th territorial battalions, formed, respectively, in Zhytomyr and Cherkasy, break through with battles to the militias in order to switch to their side. This, in particular, was reported by an employee of the Vostok Information Center with the call sign “Cat”.

    The Cherkassy battalion is known for refusing to obey the Ukrainian command. The soldiers of the Cherkasy battalion wore the usual camouflage uniform like Dubok. On the left shoulder, Cherkasy wore the combined arms patch of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and on the right shoulder - the patch of the Cherkasy battalion, which is an image of a Zaporizhzhya Cossack holding a gun on his shoulder, with a saber and a dogman

    On October 5, the battalions were forced to take up a circular defense on the outskirts of Volnovakha, occupying the territory from the traffic police post to the former meat market.

    However, on the night of October 6, the militia launched two counter-attacks - from Andreevka and from Novotroitsky, in response to which ukrovoyaki were forced to delay part of the funds blocking the rebel battalions. This allowed Cherkasy residents and parts of Zhytomyr to break out of encirclement and connect with militias. The point of their strike fell on the Shakhtyorsk battalion, formerly known as the Oleg Lyashko Ukraine battalion. During the breakthrough, Cherkasy managed to kill several dozen Lyashkovites, but they themselves lost 24 fighters. During the breakthrough, several nationalists were captured, including the infamous pederast Yuri Sinezhuk, wanted by Interpol for war crimes in Rwanda in 1994, and also known as the lover of the last Ukrainian governor of Crimea, Anatoly Mogilev. The deputy commander of the Cherkassy battalion Vladimir Melnik was also brought in as a prisoner.

    Earlier, militants of the Kharkov territorial battalion took the side of the militias.
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 6 October 2014 17: 04
      0
      Quote: Bora
      Earlier, militants of the Kharkov territorial battalion took the side of the militias.


      We are waiting for official confirmation from the authorities of New Russia, and about Kharkov, namely about the partisans, are they eating or not? It seems that somewhere they blow it up, etc., and the information is minuscule ....
  32. Korvin1000
    Korvin1000 6 October 2014 16: 59
    +1
    Increasing the range from 1500m to 4000m ... As I understand it, they use a type of mortar LNG-9. By mounted. Interestingly, if you take it cool, the exhaust will go to the ground and then give it back to the gun. Probably, back along the trunk will have to dig a trench.
  33. a.hamster55
    a.hamster55 6 October 2014 17: 07
    +2
    DESTROY TO DROP - APPLY THE LOOF!
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 6 October 2014 17: 17
      0
      Quote: a.hamster55
      DESTROY TO DROP - APPLY THE LOOF!


      This is for a shovel, this is an arm-leg-head cutter laughing
  34. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 6 October 2014 17: 19
    +1
    Quote: muhomor
    fool What's wrong? Absolutely what? Tabular firing range SPG-9 OF grenade-4500 meters. The height of the machine does not matter! Well, let's! 5 meters high machine blind! Gunners ....!



    And if you combine several pieces into a block, fasten the sight and put it on wheels, you get "Katyusha" laughing
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 6 October 2014 17: 32
      0
      Quote: The Cat
      Quote: muhomor
      fool What's wrong? Absolutely what? Tabular firing range SPG-9 OF grenade-4500 meters. The height of the machine does not matter! Well, let's! 5 meters high machine blind! Gunners ....!



      And if you combine several pieces into a block, fasten the sight and put it on wheels, you get "Katyusha" laughing


      Rather, it will turn out like in the Second World War - a reactive mortar "Andryusha" watering nemchura with rockets M-30 and M-31.
  35. Explore
    Explore 6 October 2014 17: 33
    +1
    News from the militia of New Russia
    06.10.14. Message from the blogger "el-murid"

    "In Donetsk, as it was supposed, taking control of the airport (at least, most of it), did not affect the methodical nature of the executions of the city by punitive artillery. Last night two civilians were killed.

    The positions of the Nazi batteries are outside the airport - in Peski and Avdiivka. Without the seizure of these settlements to stop the destruction of the civilian population is impossible. The airport in this sense does not help and does not interfere with these shootings. It remains a mystery strategic command plan, which a week desperately stormed him. The victims of the assault are not reported, but it is clear that their number is considerable.

    Now the busy airport is under the crossfire of punitive batteries from the north and west, and without eliminating them all the benefits from the achieved tactical success tend to zero. However, storming head-on positions stumbles upon the same problem - they are strengthened and without serious losses, and here the task cannot be solved.

    The bottleneck for both batteries and the airport is supply. By interrupting the delivery of shells and creating problems with supply, the militia could achieve a more convincing result, but according to the command, it could not create a circle of encirclement around this fortified area of ​​punitive forces - there were too few forces for this. Therefore, it was decided to "gnaw" it in parts.

    It is difficult to say how justified it is, judging by the current results. However, the current situation is a consequence of two months of complacent idleness in spring and summer, when commanders in Donetsk divided power, spheres of influence and increased their groups, giving the enemy the opportunity to calmly strengthen the bridgehead in the suburbs. Now you have to pay for previous mistakes - and as usual in war, the price for such errors is necessarily measured in human lives. "
  36. Timofey
    Timofey 6 October 2014 17: 45
    +1
    Militia Novorossia modernized the LNG-9, increasing its firing range.
  37. Ivan Tarasov
    Ivan Tarasov 6 October 2014 17: 48
    0
    And what is the point of bullying Victoria when the Tray reaches such a range at the best rate of fire several times.
    1. I read the news
      I read the news 6 October 2014 20: 21
      0
      and where to get a tray and shots to it?
  38. Explore
    Explore 6 October 2014 17: 48
    0
    Media: DPR militias liquidated the "ceremonial" battalion of the National Guard
    Subject:
    The situation in Ukraine. October 2014 (158)
    17: 2406.10.2014 (updated: 17: 28 06.10.2014) 2124342
    At the Donetsk airport, assault groups of the DPR army destroyed the 1st Special Purpose Battalion of the National Guard of Ukraine, which went to the Donbass after a military parade in Kiev, the Novorossiya portal reported.
    Smoke is visible over the airport of Donetsk on October 3, 2014, Archival photo
    © REUTERS / Shamil Zhumatov
    MOSCOW, October 6 - RIA News. The so-called parade battalion of the National Guard of Ukraine, which took part in the parade procession in Kiev dedicated to Independence Day of Ukraine, was liquidated at the Donetsk airport, the Central News Agency of New Russia reports.

    According to the agency, the army of Novorossia cleared the airport of Donetsk from the 1st Special Purpose Battalion of the National Guard of Ukraine, assembled from activists of the Right Sector.

    Celebration of Independence Day of Ukraine
    © RIA Novosti. Nikolay Lazarenko | Buy illustration
    From the parade to the war: how Ukraine celebrated Independence Day
    "This unit, recruited from proven Bandera militants, was considered ideological," the newspaper notes.

    The agency also reports that the unit was formed in mid-March and took part in a punitive operation in Slavyansk, where it was particularly cruel to prisoners and civilians.



    РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20141006/1027153598.html#ixzz3FN9oSOx6
    1. sazhka4
      sazhka4 6 October 2014 18: 17
      0
      Fewer horses became, well, that's good, that's okay .. It's not on the "Maidan" chest with a wheel. This carcass can also hang on the wires for two weeks.
  39. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 6 October 2014 18: 00
    0
    NEED FORCES TO DO AND IMPOSSIBLE. SOME HERE ARE ALREADY SITUATED WITH A SARCASM OF THE ROLE OF MOTORALLA IN THE SECURITY. ENVIRONMENT AND TOAD PUSHED SOME SEATING SOFA HERE OF GENERALS TO SEE. YES GO AND MAKE AT LEAST A PART OF WHAT IT IS DONE FOR NEW RUSSIA. BECAUSE HE IS WORTHY EVEN MYTHS. GOOD FELLOWERS, RATIONALIZERS IN IMPROVEMENT OF COMBAT QUALITY OF ARMS.
  40. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 October 2014 18: 01
    0
    The original solution. The speed of the grenade at the SPG-9 is decent, and at high elevation angles it will fly far.
  41. sazhka4
    sazhka4 6 October 2014 18: 09
    0
    Until the "product" passes through the war, it is wrong to assert that it does not "have analogues" .. But such a result really moves it to "perfection". God grant it will continue. Literate People. They studied in the USSR. Can't we find an "antidote" for the Nazis ..
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  43. Explore
    Explore 6 October 2014 18: 41
    0

    Donetsk night shelling.
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  45. Explore
    Explore 6 October 2014 18: 44
    0

    Donetsk airport.
  46. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 6 October 2014 19: 00
    0
    Quote: RUSS
    Quote: The Cat
    Quote: muhomor
    fool What's wrong? Absolutely what? Tabular firing range SPG-9 OF grenade-4500 meters. The height of the machine does not matter! Well, let's! 5 meters high machine blind! Gunners ....!



    And if you combine several pieces into a block, fasten the sight and put it on wheels, you get "Katyusha" laughing


    Rather, it will turn out like in the Second World War - a reactive mortar "Andryusha" watering nemchura with rockets M-30 and M-31.



    Well, I mean about this wink Just gave the most clear example. laughing
  47. Amper
    Amper 6 October 2014 19: 29
    0
    Yes, after the artillery blows by the Opochitsy Tulips, Nonas, Grads, a tear comes from this information.
    Salvage bends iron?
  48. pvv113
    pvv113 6 October 2014 21: 03
    +3
    Quote: Tyumen
    Why in vain, I’m without sarcasm. Or without a smiley, no one understands humor? Although, here a long time because of this in the minuses.)

    Honestly, without any pros and cons, I also thought about Mendeleev with his table. This thought tormented him for a long time, and the inspiration came in a dream. hi
  49. tolancop
    tolancop 6 October 2014 22: 22
    0
    Quote: Tyumen
    So myths are created- * Motorola saw in a dream *. Straight Mendeleev with a table.

    Why not? Judging by the activities of "Motorola", he is a creative person. Surely, subconsciously, I was looking for a solution to the problem of increasing the firing range and as a result I got a solution in a dream. Nothing extraordinary - the brain was working in the right direction. Now, if the idea was dreamed of by a homeless person at the station, it would be amazing.
  50. cat hippopotamus
    cat hippopotamus 6 October 2014 23: 21
    0
    Well done, there’s nothing to raise the bed, but the characteristics are improved.