Bratislava does not rule out a return to the Czech-Slovak army

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Bratislava does not rule out a return to the Czech-Slovak army


Slovak Security Council decided to eliminate tank units. Lack of funds for the maintenance of troops makes the Bratislava politicians think: is it possible to return to the joint Czech-Slovak army?

The Slovak Army has to reckon with an ever smaller budget. Given the financial situation, the government is thinking about taking drastic measures, one of which is the complete elimination of tank forces, the Lidové noviny newspaper reported recently with reference to Prime Minister Iveta Radicheva.

After the division of Czechoslovakia into two independent states of Slovakia, a thousand tanks went in, and although today it has only thirty of them, the operation of combat vehicles costs a lot, the publication notes. The fate of the tanks, as shown by the discussion of the problem in the national Security Council, expects artillery.

Excess colonels

The professional Slovak army is 13 thousands of 400 soldiers, that is, a division. But the colonels and generals would be enough for several divisions. By the decision of the Security Council, their number is noticeably reduced. In addition, as Prime Minister Iveta Radichova noted, there are many civilian employees in the Slovak Army, which also does not comply with NATO standards.

On the table is the third script

According to Slovak media reports, the Ministry of Defense came to a meeting of the Security Council with several scenarios for the further development of the army. One of them involves the unification of the Slovak army with the Czech. It will be discussed at a joint meeting of the governments of the Czech Republic and Slovakia, to be held in October.
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    1. +2
      4 August 2011 09: 35
      yes, judging by the latest wars and one combat division, one can’t get NATO
      1. jamert
        -2
        4 August 2011 10: 36
        That is, 150 thousand Americans alone in Afghanistan do not pull the division?
        1. +3
          4 August 2011 10: 41
          I meant the BATTLE division. And the fact that in Afghanistan 150 thousand soldiers are sitting and don’t show their nose outside the guarded bases of combatants at combat units that are capable of solving combat missions does not pull. And in general, where is it seen that regular troops use the services of private security companies for their security
          http://www.ng.ru/world/2010-08-18/7_afganistan.html
          1. jamert
            -4
            4 August 2011 10: 46
            So you say that in Afghanistan there is no war at all? And how many, excuse me, Russia has such BATTLE units? And is it not time to attack the USA and NATO in connection with this unprecedented superiority?
            And by the way, private security companies are guarded not by troops but by goods and warehouses.
            1. +4
              4 August 2011 10: 54
              And what actions are being carried out there? The last unsuccessful operation in Helmand, where they received teeth from the Taliban, returned with nothing. And you think it is normal that, if there were active troops, the PSCs would guard and escort, a logical question arises - why not the NATO troops do this? and the answer is no less logical - not capable.

              Regarding the RF Ministry of Defense, all parts of the Airborne Forces are parts of high alert. Because of the Chechen wars, almost all army units can be attributed to combat (that is, they have combat experience, took part in hostilities, and achieved results set as objectives). Units of the 54th Army in Rodentia have clearly demonstrated what combat units mean and that units trained by NATO instructors
              1. jamert
                -2
                4 August 2011 11: 11
                Facts on getting tough from the Taliban please .... Is Helmand now completely controlled by the Taliban?

                That is, the victorious war in Georgia (the armed forces - 36 thousand people) and the still unfinished war in Chechnya (maximum 30000 militants) are examples of the operations of combat units, and operations against the armies of Iraq (250 thousand soldiers, according to Zhirinovsky, 389 thousand according to Wikipedia) , the Taliban (in the early 2000s - at least 100 thousand militants) - no?

                By the way, there is no answer to my question about the attack on the Pindos.
                And most importantly, could Russia simultaneously wage two counterguerrilla wars?
                1. +1
                  4 August 2011 11: 27
                  http://rnns.ru/124542-v-afganistane-zaxlebyvaetsya-operaciya-moshtarak.html
                  And what is the result in Iraq and Afghanistan achieved? And Where is the USA and NATO waging two counter-guerrilla wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, local forces and some private security forces are fighting with the partisans, and the troops are being sued at the bases. And look at the categories of NATO losses in Iraq and Afghanistan: death during patrols, and should be in the course of hostilities with the enemy. There are no active actions, you understand.
                  In Russia, the tasks for the army in Chechnya have been completely completed, the deficiencies are under the responsibility of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, and in Georgia the assigned combat missions have also been completed.
                  1. jamert
                    -3
                    4 August 2011 12: 54
                    Iraq has become a colony of American corporations. But private security company is precisely the armed forces of corporations. The Iraqi army (Saddam's !!!!) was destroyed (not by the private security forces, but by the American Armed Forces in the process of BATTLE ACTION), a puppet regime was established, and Kurdistan autonomy was declared. The actual result of hostilities is Iraqi oil in the hands of American oil companies.
                    But patrolling is not an element of hostilities? and what ACTIVE actions can be discussed if guerrilla formations oppose on the one hand and the regular army on the other. Sidor Kovpak with the Fritzes did not enter the tacun battles either.

                    Afghanistan. Results1
                    1. The development of Islamic terrorism as a basis for increasing its presence in Central Asia.
                    2. Increase in heroin production under the wing of the CIA (by the way, half of the private security companies were created precisely by the ceerelniks).
                    3. Landfill for testing new types of weapons.

                    Syria.
                    The "Peaceful Revolutionaries" killed nearly 500 soldiers. Probably because special forces from the "non-combat" divisions of NATO countries worked.

                    Libya.
                    The West has already achieved its goal - it has split the country into two parts and has already received oil from rebel puppets. Why would they, under such conditions, ruin their soldiers in a ground operation.

                    Chechnya and the Caucasus in general is a topic for you, the Russians, more understandable than for me. But, in my opinion, they still shoot there. And "victory" in the Chechen war became possible only thanks to the bribery of Kadyrov. Moreover, the budget of the Russian Federation regularly pays tribute to him. Not this way?
                    1. 0
                      4 August 2011 13: 05
                      "victory" in the Chechen war became possible only thanks to bribery of Kadyrov "What kind of bribery are we talking about? Kadyrov was put in charge of Chechnya and at the time of the second war he was in opposition to Maskhadov.
                      Iraq is a good example - it was there, thanks to the bribing of the generals of the Iraqi army, that success was achieved, therefore, it received no resistance from the forces of the regular army of NATO. And we are talking specifically about the fighting (as for example at the IDF). So Iraq is the victory of the CIA. I can’t say anything about the ownership of Iraq’s oil fields, I don’t own the information, and the geopolitical goals of destabilizing the East have been achieved.
                      In Afghanistan, again, NATO-led MILITARY operations did not succeed (declared to be the destruction of the Taliban). Drug and so on is again a game of special services.
                      Where is the evidence that NATO units worked in Syria? - link
                      Libya is generally an example from the category of curiosities.
                      Common to all examples: in none of these countries were the combat operations conducted by the armed forces (not special services) successful.
                      1. jamert
                        -3
                        4 August 2011 13: 20
                        That is, you deny the fact that the former militant was bribed by appointing the head of Chechnya and subsequent regular multi-billion payments from the federal budget? Then I have nothing more to talk about.
                        Regarding the battles of the Iraq war, read the Wikipedia article. Or, if you do not believe the most widespread resource in the world - in any other sources?
                        Where the FACTS of bribing Iraqi generals - FACTS, please, not speculation. Which particular general? I can also say that Putin bribed Georgian soldiers because they cowardly draped in August 2008.
                        Iraq, even after a storm in the desert, MUCH surpassed Georgia in combat power.
                        1. +2
                          4 August 2011 13: 49
                          Have you not read something? During the second Chechen war, and even before it began, Kadyrov was already in opposition to Maskhadov - and it was only logical after the end of this war to put loyal man at the head of the republic. A multi-billion dollar payouts are called liberoids only tribute. There is a normal distribution of money from the budget to the needs of the region, and to Chechnya, which is the same subject of the Russian Federation as the rest.
                          Well wikipedia: “Five divisions of the US and Great Britain [19] did not meet serious resistance from 23 Iraqi divisions [20]. The Iraqi Air Force was completely inactive (after the end of hostilities, many Iraqi aircraft were found buried in the sand). By the beginning of April, the forces The US was already on the outskirts of Baghdad. On April 9, the Iraqi capital was taken without a fight "- how strange is the war going on, Iraq has an army, but there is no war? even more interesting further: "For a month and a half of the war, the losses of the coalition amounted to 172 people dead (including 139 Americans and 33 British [21]). There is no exact data on Iraqi losses for this period" - this is how it is so absent that the Iraqi troupe with them taken away?
                          Now about the bribery of generals: "With a financial weapon, about half of the commanders of the army districts and the Iraqi Republican Guard were withdrawn from active operations. The Americans spent up to $ 10 million on bribing Saddam Hussein's generals, as a result three out of seven Iraqi corps did not take an active part in military operations. "Source: http://nvo.ng.ru/forces/2006-04-07/1_conception.html. By the way, it is well described there about the war in Iraq.
                          There is no doubt about the fact that Iraq was superior to Georgia before the invasion, but no one bribed rodents, and they all fled, not because they were paid. But their instructors from the USA trained for three years.
                        2. jamert
                          0
                          4 August 2011 20: 33
                          Now read the English version of Wikipedia. The fact that in Russian they will repeat the same nonsense as here - I had no doubt. And the instructors of the Georgian army were not from the United States, but from the private company Military Professional Resources.
                          There is no evidence of Iraqi losses because the Iraqis cowardly dragged home. Or did each ordinary Americans bribe him?
                          The Kadyrovs (both) are former fighters. And no chatter about "loyalty" will change that. With the appointment of Kadyrov Sr., Chechnya has become the only subject of the Federation where:
                          1. There is an actual absolute monarchy. Let Medvedev try to fire Kadyrov, like Luzhkov — let's see how he will fulfill his decree.
                          2. There are own armed forces.
                          3. Absolutely no federal laws apply.
                          And all this is paid from the federal budget.
                          In general, arguing with you is to make yourself look like an idiot. Of course, the invincible Russian army to smithereens smashed hordes of Georgian aggressors. And the cowardly Yankees sit back
                        3. -2
                          4 August 2011 20: 58
                          jamert, you are a good bot ... ... seriously worked on you. Who are your masters ..?
                        4. jamert
                          +1
                          4 August 2011 21: 05
                          Comrade DAGESTAN333, I have not insulted you yet. And you did not poke. If you want to show the complete absence of an elementary culture of communication, characteristic of representatives of your nationality and your religion, then please find a different object for this. I do not intend to read your nonsense. And to answer them - even more so.
                        5. 0
                          4 August 2011 23: 31
                          Pretended to be civilized, yes jamert? Not insulted ??? The difference between us is this: I understand where I offended you, but you have no idea at all that you insulted me. The fact that you are here hurling the appeals "you" and "you" does not mean your high spirituality.
                          I judge by such things:
                          And I do not deny that the amers are aggressors. But these are our aggressors, at least for the time being they are killing mousses.

                          -this is probably your "culture of communication" ...

                          ..."please"? ...jamert, first find out the meaning of the word "good" - overpower yourself - do not look directly at Wikipedia.

                          Yes, you are right, probably (such a culture) I would hit you for your "toxicity".

                          But however mr jamert, I wish you peace of mind.
                        6. -1
                          4 August 2011 21: 14
                          you are difficult. The Iraqis did not skimp, they simply did not fight and did not leave the location of the units. Isn't the private company you mentioned under the "roof" of the CIA http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Professional_Resources_Inc.? By the way, a link to your favorite English-language version of Wikipedia.
                          The Kadyrovs are former militants, but in the second Chechen and before e began rigidly in opposition to Maskhadov. At the expense of loyalty - this is generally ridiculous, it is difficult to imagine a more faithful Kremlin chain dog than Kadyrov (because Kadyrov is also so loyal to the authorities). Change it - why? He regularly chases the deficiencies, keeps his fellow tribesmen in check, conducts construction. The laws of the Russian Federation are fully applicable there, if this is not the case. There are no own armed forces, special forces stationed there are part of the Russian Ministry of Defense (look on the internet) Kadyrov’s personal guard is numerous, but he has enough ill-wishers. At the expense of financing - Chechnya is part of Russia, therefore, like other regions, money is allocated to it, and this is normal.
                          The Russian army is really invincible, probably the last major defeat at Kalka was.
                        7. jamert
                          0
                          4 August 2011 22: 10
                          e-mine on this same site regularly raises a cry about disproportionately large federal funding being allocated to Chechnya.
                          http://topwar.ru/4950-chechenskaya-skazka.html
                          http://topwar.ru/page,1,2,4362-chto-delat-s-severnym-kavkazom.html
                          And now this is denied.

                          That is, the Iraqis are still in the arrangement of parts? Or how? Or bribing a dozen generals (again, not the fact that this is speculation) can completely kill the vaunted Arab patriotism? That is, the soldiers will not shoot their commanders and will not go to defend their homeland? If all wars would be won so easily ...
                          And in 1991, during the war in the Gulf, too, were the generals bribed?

                          Well, yes ... at Kalki. Crimean, Russian-Japanese, Afghan and the first Chechen wars probably ended in victories.
                        8. LESHA pancake
                          0
                          4 August 2011 21: 47
                          The British are masters of lies. And the so-called private security companies are retired military personnel for the sensitive operations of the CIA and the Pentagon.
                    2. Eric
                      +1
                      4 August 2011 16: 45
                      The question was simple with Chechnya, either they would be stupidly exterminated as a population, or they would have to make concessions! Kadyrov was frightened at all (although he was not a fool and understood sooner or later the war would end and was far from in favor of the OCHKeria, and therefore understood where the owner was)!
    2. merkawa
      +2
      4 August 2011 10: 42
      We also have enough generals and colonels for a dozen armies fellow
    3. mitrich
      +5
      4 August 2011 13: 19
      The military history of Czechoslovakia (Czech Republic and Slovakia) shows:
      they only need military traffic controllers to show the invading army the direction of the movement and the roadside. This will significantly reduce the defense spending of these states ...
      You can also enter the positions of capitular-masters, who should meet at the entrance to us. Enemy columns of armored vehicles and touchingly hold out bread and salt and symbolic keys to the city.
      And the last military profession. Deeply conspiratorial partisans, whose functions include raising an uprising the day before release (well, or a few days, according to circumstances)!
      1. jamert
        -3
        4 August 2011 13: 40
        That is, when in the era of the Hussite Wars, the Czechs crushed soldiers to half of Europe, then this does not count?
    4. mitrich
      +2
      4 August 2011 13: 51
      JAMERT
      and ancient Rome conquered Europe in general, and North Africa and the Middle East. Only in the XX-XXI centuries, Italians screwed up "a little" ... Of course, everyone has something to remember: the Czechs - Jan Hus, the Lithuanians - the Battle of Grunwald, the Mongols in general ... but I don't mean the history of the ancient and Middle Ages ...
      1. svvaulsh
        +1
        4 August 2011 16: 22
        Mitrich, jamert has a spirit of contradiction. Tell him at least something and imagine what arguments you want; anyway, he will argue.
        1. -1
          4 August 2011 16: 27
          But why didn’t you argue with me, or did the arguments in defense of NATO end?
          1. jamert
            0
            4 August 2011 20: 36
            It's just that my work has nothing to do with the computer. Wait a break for 20 minutes. broke out to see what you write to me.
    5. atheist
      0
      4 August 2011 16: 43
      this leads to the unification of small states into big ones, it’s time for a long time, because it’s difficult for a small one to cope with a big neighbor, than a big one, we should also merge into the borders, although not of the Russian empire, but at least within the borders of the CIS or the USSR, and we can be pushed to the borders of Russia 15 centuries
    6. jamert
      0
      4 August 2011 20: 41
      The worse it lives in this particular period of life, the braver people fight. In the twentieth century in Russia and the USSR was not sweet - war, revolution, famine. So people turned out persistent, accustomed to deprivation. And in the XVII century, after the horrors of the Thirty Years War, these were the Fritzes.
      I’ve lived in the USA for almost three years. Americans should not be considered weaklings. They just got used to comfort and order. But with these crises, I'm afraid they will have to tighten their belts.

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