On the "Typhoon" found factory marriage

On the Eurofighter Typhoon fighter aircraft of the German Air Force in the back of the fuselage found factory defects, transmits Lenta.ru report with reference to Agence France-Presse.

"The detected fault can make the structure of the aircraft fuselage unstable"- writes the publication. As a result, the delivery of new aircraft was suspended, and the operation of existing ones was reduced from 3 to 1,5 thousand hours per year.

Earlier, the marriage of the "typhoon" was found by British soldiers. They also halved the flight hours to reduce the load on the fuselage.

According to Flightglobal MiliCAS, the German Air Force is armed with the 94 Typhoon fighter, including the 20 training fighter. More 35 ready to be transferred to the military. British Park has 102 Typhoon and 47 ordered. Initially, Germany and Britain were going to buy 250 such machines.

At Airbus, they noted that “low interest in the Typhoon could lead to the closure of the production of these aircraft in the 2018 year.”

According to Agence France-Presse, the “Eurofighter Typhoon fighters are in service with Spain, Germany, Great Britain, Saudi Arabia, Italy and Australia, and in December 2012, Oman bought a dozen fighters.”

In June, the Spanish Air Force's Typhoon 2014 crashed while landing after a scheduled flight. The pilot was killed. The causes of the disaster are still unknown.

The Typhoon can reach speeds of up to 2459 km / h, has a combat radius of up to 1389 km, a maximum take-off weight of 23,5 t, and a combat load of up to 6,5 t.

Comments

[Ruslan67]

Are they also collected by Turkish guest workers?

[Paradoxov]

"Typhoon" - something looks like a gadget

And the bastard is all about the bath:
(there are positive changes)

[enot73]

Quote: Paradoxov

"Typhoon" - something looks like a gadget

It's just that the British follow the tradition in the names. They had a Hawker Typhoon during the War. Developed as a fighter. but did not pull. As an attack aircraft, it is also rather weak - the reservation is insufficient. So "whatever you call the boat, so it will float."

[Aleksey_K]

And what about "Carnations" and "Acacia" or "Flurry" - what follows from these names? And "Msta" - what does the river have to do with it?

[iConst]

As a result, the supply of new aircraft was suspended, and the operation of existing ones was reduced from 3 to 1,5 thousand hours per year.

Earlier, the marriage of the "typhoon" was found by British soldiers. They also halved the flight hours to reduce the load on the fuselage.

I suggest that they generally put in a museum under the hood - they will be more intact. And then suddenly, God forbid, a war — and there will be nothing to take off — they will spend all their motor resources ...

[jjj]

Without military operations, NATO aviation has thinned noticeably

[Aleksey_K]

If the Russian media would talk about defects in Russian airplanes, then Russia should not be able to make airplanes at all. More recently, one of the countries in Africa (not the most developed country) refused the party of MiGs due to discovered defects. Before blaming others, start with a quality analysis in your homeland.

[iConst]

Quote: Алексей_К

More recently, one of the countries in Africa (not the most developed country) refused the party of MiGs due to discovered defects.

Link please.
And then somehow strange - I try to follow such news - but did not hear.

[Aleksey_K]

You are welcome. (www.bigness.ru/articles/2008-05-15/alzhir/88716/). There are other sources. Do not be lazy to use a search engine.

[iConst]

Quote: Алексей_К

You are welcome. (www.bigness.ru/articles/2008-05-15/alzhir/88716/

I read it - an article by Nicholas. OBS. Continuous speculation. If the fact is, then most likely the reason for that is - they changed their mind. And why change your mind - there are a lot of reasons.
But they just can't refuse. So you need to find a good reason. What is the wording - "... after receiving the aircraft, the Algerian side stated that they did not meet the requirements specified in the contract."- solid fog.

[Aleksey_K]

And here is another article in the Military Review - "The court determined the punishment for three swindlers, because of which Russia disgraced itself in Algeria with MiG-29 fighters", which clearly describes the defective components. And in the previous article it was clearly stated that this batch of aircraft did not meet the declared characteristics. And this is just a mild definition by the Russian media of the defective (in fact, non-flying) state of these Migs. When you read, read every word, and do not follow it, take your time, otherwise you don’t understand the meaning of what you read.

[viktorR]

2008, really? Recently? You still would have remembered La-5 with delta wood ... This refusal already in the tail and in the mane that Algeria supposedly refused because of a defect ... But it’s nothing that they have been used in the Air Force for a long time and without any particular complaints the ones that Algeria did not want to take?

[Aleksey_K]

And here is another article in the Military Review - "The court determined the punishment for three swindlers, because of which Russia disgraced itself in Algeria with MiG-29 fighters", which clearly describes the defective components.

[Aleksey_K]

What, I do not like the truth about defects in the manufacture of Russian aircraft, minuscators, spiteful critics. Probably you yourself are satisfied with these defects, since you really don’t like it!

[Aleksey_K]

In aviation parts, technical services are at their best, aviators, engineers and technicians feel defective units very well. And after the international scandal, specialists from the plant changed the unit day and night. Therefore, it flies now. There are no idiots in Russia to fly on unchecked aircraft.

[Aleksey_K]

Hey, minus one, you do not like the truth about the state of Russian aircraft delivered from aircraft factories? Or maybe you are the traitors-saboteurs working at these plants? But no matter how much you harm, in parts technical services are at their best, aviators engineers and technicians feel defective units very well. Look, the conversation is short with the traitors - they will put it to the wall without trial.

[Aleksey_K]

Probably Russian saboteurs.

[Giant thought]

Apparently, the qualifications of workers at European aircraft factories decreased, this is a consequence of the low level of the education system.

[seregatara1969]

no, of course, Uzbek

[0255]

At Airbus, they noted that “low interest in the Typhoon could lead to the closure of the production of these aircraft in the 2018 year.”

That's right, in 2018, gay pilots will be forced to fly on the F-35

[buga1979]

Putin worked with a file no one else))

[subbtin.725]

Quote: buga1979

Putin worked with a file no one else))

And here, however, it was not without GDP.

[ALEXX.]

OK, bro.

[Kostyar]

"Putin has no one else to work with the file))"

Nope, it smacks of American rotten dough, now quietly everyone (allies) will be transferred to F-planes ... and whoever doesn’t change seats, that mos-cal ...

[Anton Gavrilov]

1,5 thousands of flight hours .... Funny, to be honest.)

[Mama_Cholli]

More goods "good" and different in the sun of our potential "friends" ...

[KEX]

The states simply rave about closing this corpse .... then both f22 and f35 will start selling well ... as if all this were not the machinations of the allies :)

[iConst]

Quote: KEX

The states simply rave about closing this corpse .... then both f22 and f35 will start selling well ... as if all this were not the machinations of the allies :)

If you believe Wikipedia, then the 22nd US Air Force will no longer buy. And the sale of "foreign" is prohibited by Congress.

Only still raw 35th and remains.

On this miracle, too, ambiguous conclusions. Many experts believe that the 35th is the greatest Pandocsky breeder. With all its advantages, there are significant disadvantages, and if you know them, then you can get the 35th on 4+ fighters.

[KEX]

Well, the flight characteristics of this ax (f35) are, as it were, far from our 4 ++, what they are claiming is a new weapons control system, GDP and other pieces ... what I agree with is that it bred of course enchanting ...

[PSih2097]

Quote: KEX

what I agree with is that it bred of course enchanting ...

well, bred - not bred, but pilot helmets similar to the F-35 on the same Dryers and MiGs would not hurt ...

[Aljavad]

The states simply rave about closing this corpse .... then both f22 and f35 will start selling well ... as if all this were not the machinations of the allies :)

In general, I agree, but the F-22s are no longer available and have never been offered to anyone. But move Airbus in the civilian market - yes.

[samoletil18]

Well, nice. Hindus take an example from Egypt, and buy the MiG-35.

[Magic archer]

Initially created as a counterweight to the Russian 5 generation aircraft, it is significantly inferior even to 4 +! The savings led to the avionics being greatly reduced. For example, the DASS system was not installed on all German planes because it was considered very expensive. Without it, according to experts, it inferior even to the modernized MIG 29.

[opus]

Quote: Magic Archer

Originally created as a counterweight to Russian 5 generation aircraft,

Eurofighter Typhoon
1.program launched in 1979
2. The first flight in 1994
3 Start-up -2003
REMIND:
in the yard is the end of 2014, there are no Russian 5 generation aircraft yet.
T-50 (PAK fa) project work began in 2002
They (EEC) why did Wang consult what would happen?

Quote: Magic Archer

significantly inferior even to 4 +!

than?
The fact that in 2004 year 1 against 2x F-15E won the training battle outright?

Quote: Magic Archer

For example, the DASS system was not installed on all German planes.

Come on?
1.DASS (Defensive Aids Sub-System):

includes radar and laser warning sensors, electronic warfare and electronic reconnaissance equipment (located in the fairing located at the end of the left wing console), towed radar traps of the BAE Systems Ariel (two of these products are located in the fairing at the end of the right wing console; for them Towing, there is a thin Kevlar cable with a length of 100 m), containers with dipole reflectors and blocks of shot heat traps.
2.So here are the Germans and ITALIANS (or rather their Air Force) abandoned only laser warning sensors. In addition, Italy wants to install a container with the Cross Ai REP system instead of towed radar traps.
3. DASS equipment for detecting approaching missiles (MAWS) has a pulse-Doppler radar of the millimeter range. On the airplanes of the United Kingdom, Italy and Spain, the radomes of these radars are located in the root parts of the wing and under the vertical tail on airplanes of the German Air Force and
Austria stations are installed only in the root parts of the wing.
=============
The Germans abandoned the CAESAR AFAR, since next year they begin the installation of Captor-E

[KORESH80]

Quote: opus

The fact that in 2004 year 1 against 2x F-15E won the training battle outright?

So the F-15E was never used as a fighter, only as a strike.

[opus]

Quote: KORESH80

So the F-15E was never used as a fighter, only as a strike.

1. So what?
2.McDonnell Douglas F-15E Strike Eagle - American Double fighterbased bomber fighter F-15.
All the properties characteristic of the fighter he has.

3.In the given example, the Eurofighter Typhoon acted as an interceptor of the "strike" F-15
and?
And intercepted them

[KORESH80]

Quote: opus

In the given example, the Eurofighter Typhoon acted as an interceptor for the "strike" F-15
and?
And intercepted them

I don’t see anything complicated in intercepting strike aircraft, and the f-15E still differs from clean fighters in the presence of conformal fuel tanks (non-resettable!) And other equipment. Anyway, how the interception took place, the heights, the presence of Avax, weapons, etc. I will say more, the F-15S with the latest AIM-120 and AIM-9 can easily intercept 2 Typhoons performing shock missions.

[opus]

Quote: KORESH80

and f-15E still differs from pure fighters in the presence of conformal fuel tanks

1. They are not resettable, that's for sure, BUT THEY ARE REMOVABLE

Boeing F-15SE Silent Eaglethe same has conformal weapons bays (CWB) or KTB (optional)




2. But not the essence of KTB or CWB can be "suspended on any aircraft ...
It would be software, but the 3 printer doesn’t dazzle such a matrix.
The essence of KTB- practically does not increase the resistance of the environment, maneuverability does not deteriorate, and in some cases (for most 3,4 generations) the radar signature is reduced (their KTB is designed this way)

Quote: KORESH80

I will say more, Ф-15С with the latest AIM-120 and AIM-9

F-15C stopped being produced at 1989 .... He is old for Eurofighter Typhoon
it (ET) and the F-15 Silent Eagle (SE) hardly WILL "DO"
The combat load of the Eurofighter Typhoon is the same:
Air-to-air missiles: AIM-9 Sidewinder, AIM-132 ASRAAM, AIM-120 AMRAAM, IRIS-T and the future MBDA Meteor
And the Eurofighter Typhoon itself is much more maneuverable

January 23, 2010

During the recent NATO exercises, Spanish and US Air Force aircraft performed several combat maneuvers known as DACT (Dissimilar Aircraft Combat Training, that is, involving various types of aircraft) to enhance pilot training. To accomplish the task of air superiority, the Typhoon has proved itself to be the best fighter in air combat.

The 111 I squadron of the Spanish Air Force, equipped with Eurofighter Typhoon fighters, and the 493 I squadron of the US Air Force, armed with F-15 aircraft, participated in the simulation of the battles. Both squadrons were transferred to the base of Gando (Grand Canaria). The Spanish squadron allocated six fighters for maneuvers.

In an interview with 41-year-old major, commander of the 111-th squadron of the Spanish Air Force Juan Balesta (Juan Balesta) said that during the "battles" against eight Typhoon fighters were eight F-15, acting as attack aircraft. Spanish fighters adequately met the opponents and completely defeated American aircraft. The first Typhoon “shot down” four F-15, the second sent three F-15 to the ground. Pilots made full use of the huge potential of the Eurofighter Typhoon fighters.

[Ivan 63]

I wish the geyrope, like America, to completely lose not only technology, but also the culture of production, and what more can I wish to the enemy, except perhaps as quickly as possible collapse.

[INF]

It’s a sin to hide, we are all happy about this news!

[MuadDib]

I apologize for the off-topic post. Anatoly Sharia channel on You Tube blocked! Allegedly due to numerous complaints from third parties. Who knows the details?

[Magic archer]

Look at the branch below, Dear! Everything is thoroughly stated there.

[Roman 1977]

Everything is lost. Where is the German Navalny. "S_funny Germashka to roll into the thump!"
Now let's look at the average age of the main western aircraft:
B-1 - 40 years, first flight 1974 year.

F-15 - 40 years, first flight 1974 year.

F-16 - 40 years, first flight 1974 year.
F-18 - 36 years, first flight 1978 year.

F-22 - 24 of the year, first flight 1990 of the year.

I'm not talking about other areas of the American military-industrial complex:
F-35 so far rather not than it is, and what it turned out and for what price, then for the United States it would be better not.

Zumwalt turned out even in the potential number of 2 (3?) Pieces without one radar and missile defense capabilities, but how many plans are there to build Burkov?
US Navy just saw worse and have Virginia, Burke and Superhornets in commercial quantities.
SV - on junk without any prospects at all (Krusader and Komanche are poher, FCS ended in zilch, neither a new tank nor a new BMP is visible even beyond the horizon)
Air Force - F-22 is outdated, and has not yet reached combat readiness and multifunctionality, for the F-35 Hero of Russia you can hand out handfuls to Amer industrialists and generals. When the resource runs out, F-15 and F-16 will have wop. The UAV's passion for these shock and expensive, which even Iran is landing. Of the strategists, the only sense is from the 60-year-old B-52, for the B-2 there are no missiles.
In Europe, the same situation, UK, Germans, Italians and Spaniards fly on the Eurofighter Typhoon, the first flight of which took place already in the 1994 year (20 years) and are patiently waiting for the Americans to finally finish the F-35.

The French have their own "pride" - Dassault Rafale, which they tormented since the early 80s, and began with the Yugoslavs ("Novi Avion") and were adopted as early as 2004 (Navy) and 2006 (Air Force).

Moreover, both Eurofighter Typhoon and Dassault Rafale belong to the 4th generation, not even "4+", and they do not even smell of the fifth.

[iConst]

Yes, developing countries (including Russia) have weapons that are quite adequate and that they plan to significantly rearm.

Sobsna Pendostan with a clip on is therefore pointed out - the money itself has so much. More precisely, there are many, but not enough for everything - Uncle Sam has a large farm.

The same 35th has very limited weapons - you can’t push a lot into the corps. So, experts believe - if before the 35th he gets at least a couple of J-10, then kerdyk. And the prime cost of 1: 8-10 is easily obtained.

Under the defense doctrine, if the invading 35th from the ground is "highlighted", then he will not have a special advantage.

Hence the question - what the hell is he needed - only on the defensive?

[Andrey Skokovsky]

Quote: iConst

Yes, developing countries (including Russia) have weapons that are quite adequate and plans for substantial rearmament .....

sorry a couple of questions
you do not tell me and in accordance with what you call Russia "developing"?
what is the criterion of a "developed country" sexual perverts rights or flat roads?

moreover, in my opinion, you are contradicting yourself;

[iConst]

Quote: Andrey Skokovsky

Quote: iConst

Yes, developing countries (including Russia) have weapons that are quite adequate and plans for substantial rearmament .....

sorry a couple of questions
you do not tell me and in accordance with what you call Russia "developing"?
what is the criterion of a "developed country" sexual perverts rights or flat roads?

moreover, in my opinion, you are contradicting yourself;

Sorry, I will answer with a counter question:
Firstly, read carefully the construction of my proposal, and secondly, do you think that Russia has already been developed further? And in what its development is expressed is a question. It would be nice to qualify the type of real Russian economy.

Now, regarding the contradiction - 90% of what is now being produced and brought to mind from high-tech and advanced - this is the reserve of the USSR. Not? Argument.

You, the campaign, have offended the term "developing" in relation to Russia. The economy can have two states: developing or stagnating. The borderline does not count.

So here you are right - India and China are developing their economy at a much faster pace than Russia. Not? - Arguments to the studio.
Or do we prefer the head in the sand, like an ostrich? And how will the cobblestone in the sand be?

But, actually, you are talking about a different concept - economics and production are slightly different categories. Like the universe and galaxies.

[PSih2097]

Quote: iConst

Now, regarding the contradiction - 90% of what is now being produced and brought to mind from high-tech and advanced - this is the reserve of the USSR. Not? Argument.

A plus...

[Andrey Skokovsky]

Quote: iConst

Sorry, I will answer with a counter question:
Firstly, read carefully the construction of my proposal, and secondly, do you think that Russia has already been developed further? And in what its development is expressed is a question. It would be nice to qualify the type of real Russian economy.

Now, regarding the contradiction - 90% of what is now being produced and brought to mind from high-tech and advanced - this is the reserve of the USSR. Not? Argument.

You, the campaign, have offended the term "developing" in relation to Russia. The economy can have two states: developing or stagnating. The borderline does not count.

So here you are right - India and China are developing their economy at a much faster pace than Russia. Not? - Arguments to the studio.
Or do we prefer the head in the sand, like an ostrich? And how will the cobblestone in the sand be?

But, actually, you are talking about a different concept - economics and production are slightly different categories. Like the universe and galaxies.

They answered beautifully, only slightly away from reality

tarmins developing and developed countries in the common sense are used in completely different contexts, and I think you understand this very well, the words were put into use by our geopolitical enemies and are used for propaganda purposes,
using and agreeing to this terminology you humiliate your own country.

if you use some other, rare, meaning of these terms, then you probably need to chew your thoughts in more detail, because otherwise you play into the hands of our enemies

about some 90% of the USSR, there is a question for you, did you personally count these 90%?
in my opinion such things are almost impossible to consider
and this makes no sense, the main thing is the real work in many directions, and this is after the actual destruction in the 90 years.

Do you know any other countries on planet Earth that may be the same as Russia?
well, except that our "partners" are Anglo-Saxons, and even that comparison on specific positions is usually not in their favor

if you leave the purely technical sphere, into the social one, then excuse me, but the lights of the "developed" world somehow look wretched, do you know they will join ........

[Aljavad]

in accordance with what you call Russia "developing"?

Because WE ARE DEVELOPING! And do not rot, like some ...

[Vasek]

Quote: Novel 1977

Everything is lost. Where is the German Navalny. "S_funny Germashka to roll into the thump!"
Now let's look at the average age of the main western aircraft:

Thank you for comparing!
Simple, clear and affordable. And most importantly - adds optimism.
(True, they forgot about SAAB, but the shvades after Poltava are neutral ).

[opus]

Quote: Novel 1977

Now let's look at the average age of the main western aircraft:

1) В-1В The average age is not 40 years, why do you think from the FIRST FLIGHT В-1Б? (still from V-1A have begun)
On 2010, the average age of 64 B-1B bombers (which were in service), made up 22,1 of the year
SB-16 (Sustainment-Block 16) since March 2013,
2) F-15: where do these numbers come from? The average age is not counted from the "date of birth" of the first aircraft (these have long been junk)

As of 2011, there were 218 F-15C fighters, 36 F-15D combat trainers and about 220 F-15E fighter-bombers in the US Air Force. WITHthe average age of F-15C / D aircraft is 26,5 years, F-15E - 18,4 years. The flight time per month is about 20 hours. The resource of F-15С / D fighters is 8000 l.h., F-15E fighter-bomber -16 000 l.h.
3) F-15 data on 2010 / 2011
4) F-16C - 619 pieces (318 of them are used for their intended purpose, 135 - for training and training, 29 - for practicing tactics and research purposes, 50 - for storage and 87 for conservation). The average age of cars is 19 years.
F-16D - 117 pieces (6 of them are used for their intended purpose, 48 - for training and training, 15 - for practicing tactics and research purposes, 41 for storage and 7 for conservation). The average age of cars is 19 years.
5) F / A-18 (2013 data) of all modifications Average age14-15 years
6) F-22А (data on 2010 / 2011) - 141 piece (85 of which are used for their intended purpose, 28 - for training and training, 7 - for practicing application tactics and for research purposes and 21 are stored). Average age of cars - 3-4 year.
etc.
Compare with ours (required, taking into account% operated)

[ohtandur]

I looked at the table and see that the park of the Russian Federation is younger, and as I understand it is getting younger.

[opus]

Quote: ohtandur

and I see that the park of the Russian Federation is younger,

Do not think so.
1. All planes x for the whole age (average), it is better to break down into classes of course
2. Upgrade is not taken into account, and the Americans constantly

Quote: ohtandur

and as I understand it is getting younger.

and I really hope

[Juborg]

Well, these are "Typhoons", almost the only aircraft in the world that are more or less able to withstand the F-22 the best aircraft in the world and in the universe, and you have such a nuisance. Who will now oppose the F-22, one "Rafali"? How disappointing it must be when it suddenly turns out that your plane is not the best in the world, and not even an average one, but in fact it is built by the whole European world. What goes down to the super aircraft of competitors?
Well, keep it up! And the main thing that is insulting (to the Heroes), this defect cannot be fixed, only to be written off, after the development of flight (limited!) Hours. Broom without a handle - a broom comes out.

[romashki74]

But is this someone’s special operation .....

[Rurikovich]

This is not a "typhoon", but a slight breeze of some kind But if at such a pace the Europedics will "take care" of their army and the Air Force and the Navy, then the thesis about "a powerful NATO capable of standing up for any of its members (not to be confused with the male genital organ !!!)" will be considered a child's horror story for close-minded aborigines ...

[vinc]

Fly Aeroflot airplanes.

[vinc]

Fly Aeroflot airplanes.

[wow]

Still, not "... from 3 thousand to 1.5 thousand hours per year ...", but the overhaul life has been halved. In my memory, not a single airplane has flown 1.5 or even more than 3 thousand hours in a year. The usual flight time of a front-line aircraft is approximately 120-150 hours per year, no more.

[sv68]

on typhoons I discovered a factory marriage - in the cockpit a black man by the name of a barracks shit!

[stranik72]

The title of the article at first strained me a lot, I thought it was on our Typhoon-class nuclear-powered ships, and so, even if there are more and different malfunctions, the enemy's problems should not upset us.

[Krsk]

can you imagine quality f 22 if a defective typhoon can fight it

[muratore3]

Typhoid Typhoon

[Dyatko Nebatko]

The headline scared me !!!! Thought Kamaz armored out of shit made!

[PM9mm]

Quote: PSih2097

well, bred - not bred, but pilot helmets similar to the F-35 on the same Dryers and MiGs would not hurt ...

With such a helmet you have to fly with an open lamp for a strong psychological effect !!! Darth Vader smokes on the sidelines!