Daewoo K11. Why did the modern military need a double-barreled gun?

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Daewoo K11. Why did the modern military need a double-barreled gun?


What do we know about the South Korean company Daewoo? Cars "Matiz" and "Nexia", microwaves, washing machines, well, and ... everything seems. And the fact that this company also produces weapon... very good small arms - this is somehow not advertised. Although…

It was the army "double barrel" Daewoo K11 and fueled interest in this side of the production company Daewoo.

So, Daewoo K11 - two-caliber small arms under the standard NATO cartridge 5.56x45 mm and 20 mm army grenade air blast. Separate optical sights for shooting a bullet or a grenade. "On-board computer" for accurate aiming with a grenade.

And why is all this necessary?

But why? During large-scale military operations of the Second World War, the effective tactics of urban combat were determined — the firing point was struck by a grenade, then the survivors sought from small arms. The under-barrel grenade launcher is currently the standard kit of any army assault rifle. However, in order to accurately get a grenade to the desired point, you just need to be an ace!

The flight path of a heavy grenade is more complex than the flat trajectory of a rifle bullet. Therefore, modern grenades for grenade launchers make for the so-called “air explosion”, the grenade explodes in the air as it approaches the target. However, the defeat radius of a modern 20 mm grenade of the entire 3-7 m, they are used at a distance of up to 300 m, and at such distances it is very difficult to get a grenade even into a circle with a diameter of 3 m. This is achieved only by long trainings, but in combat, where there are many distractors factors and the counting of time for aiming sometimes goes on for a split second, it is not always possible to aim correctly.

Another nuance. The length of the barrel of an under-barrel grenade launcher is always less than the length of the barrel for bullet shooting, and a heavy grenade begins to “fall” much earlier than a light bullet flying at a higher speed. Therefore, for a more flat grenade flight trajectory, it would be advisable to do the opposite: make the length of the grenade launcher barrel longer than for firing a bullet. This increases the effectiveness of hitting targets behind cover at large distances that are inaccessible for a shot from a short-barreled grenade launcher. Therefore, in the composition of each modern assault unit there is a separate fighter armed with an automatic long-barreled grenade launcher for precise destruction of distant targets. However ... In close combat, shooting back from such a grenade launcher is more expensive. Splinters of a grenade will not spare anyone ...

Solve this problem in different ways. The European-American, NATO, approach to this matter was expressed in the creation of a modular design, the XM-29 OICW rifle-grenade complex of the German firm Heckler-Koch. The long-barreled automatic grenade launcher “sits down” on top of the Heckler-Koch G.36 assault rifle, and not from below, like a grenade launcher. Above the rocket launcher - special aiming optics with a rangefinder and a computer for accurate calculation of the flight of a grenade.

The disadvantages of such a bulky design are complete: it is difficult, inconvenient, and accurate shooting with a bullet can be simply forgotten, optics for bullet shooting are combined with a “grenade”, but preference is given to shooting with a grenade. However, despite all these shortcomings, leisure-time Americans calculated that the effectiveness of hitting hidden targets behind the obstacles of an infantryman armed with such a “double-barreled gun” would increase 16 times by comparison with the M203 rifle / under-barrel grenade launcher M5.

But the South Korean gunsmiths solved this problem somewhat differently, in an oriental way wisely and in a South Korean manner technologically. They combined a long-barreled grenade launcher, located above the bullet barrel, in one shooting "combine". Called this "mutant" Daewoo K11. The bullet assault rifle is made according to the classical scheme: the store is in front, the firing handle is at the rear. But the store for grenades is located behind the pistol grip. And these are not modules, but monolithic, non-folding double-barreled two-caliber weapons. The shooting is controlled by a special lever with a single trigger. The optics are separate for the bullet and for the grenade, which allows you to very accurately fire both the bullet and the grenade. To reduce the weight of such a “combine”, the trunks are made of titanium, the receiver is made of light but durable alloy.



Technical performance characteristics of Daewoo K11:

Caliber: NATO 5.56x45mm + 20x30 mm grenade.
Overall length: 860 mm.
Barrel length: 310 mm (bullet 5,56 mm); 405 mm (20 grenade mm).
Weight: 6,1 kg (with optics, shops and battery power rangefinder and computer, but without ammunition).
Maximum effective firing range: 300 m bullet (NATO 5,56 mm); up to 500 m grenade (20 mm).
Magazine capacity: 30 mm caliber 5,56 cartridges and 5 grenade caliber 20 mm.

For firing grenades, three main types of ammunition are used - a high-explosive fragmentation grenade with a programmable fuse, a cumulative grenade for hitting lightly armored vehicles and a training grenade with a passive warhead.

The electronic fire control unit includes a laser range finder, a wind sensor, a ballistic microprocessor computer for flight trajectory, a day (optical) and night (infrared) mode switch, and a power battery built into the butt.

This complex began to be supplied to elite units of the South Korean army as early as 2010. The military department gave its field trials a year ago. If these tests are successful, it is supposed to introduce the KHNUMX as standard armament of a South Korean infantryman.



For comprehensive tests, this army “double-barreled gun” was purchased by the Ministry of Defense of the United Arab Emirates, paying for each such rifle about 14000 US dollars. For comparison, the export price of the latest modification of the American assault rifle M16 does not exceed 600 dollars.

What else to say? The South Korean army is currently considered one of the most combat-ready in the world. Most likely, with such a modern weapon it will be such for a very long time.

PS All materials for this article are taken from open sources.
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  1. +6
    28 September 2013 08: 58
    Well done Koreans. They made a smart move.
    1. +9
      28 September 2013 09: 30
      Quote: xetai9977
      Well done Koreans. They made a smart move.

      Well done Koreans - they went according to the flawed development of the shooter ... the Americans have already gone through this with their flawed xm-29. But the Koreans have to go through the rake themselves and, of course, the "Asian complex" makes them make it bigger.)))
      1. -15
        28 September 2013 13: 51
        By the way, Russia walks along the rake with its AK, Amamericans took the X-29 into service and have already used it in Afghanistan.
  2. 0
    28 September 2013 09: 25
    Something like a harvester .. all in one.
  3. +7
    28 September 2013 09: 30
    Almost an analogue of the state XM-25.
    The trend however. It seems that soon the main goal will be warehouses with batteries.
    1. +4
      28 September 2013 12: 32
      Quote: Chukcha
      It seems that soon the main goal will be warehouses with batteries.

      I doubt the batteries, but problems like all electronics can arise in the case of the application of the Electromagnetic Bomb, the rescue of which is only a Faraday cage. My opinion, what for a goat button accordion? It has long been known that the simpler the better and more reliable, and here, as in the movie, The Fifth Element. It seems the guys are playing too much.
  4. +7
    28 September 2013 09: 35
    If only we did not rush as usual to catch up and overtake, making another one that has no analogues. Although now all private traders, it is beneficial to do what is more expensive and more fashionable. Then this rubbish will be thrown out and again on a new business.
  5. Sadikoff
    +3
    28 September 2013 09: 51
    The more electronics, the more ammunition to extinguish them.
    1. Gari
      +7
      28 September 2013 10: 33
      Quote: Sadykoff
      The more electronics, the more ammunition for their extinguishing

      paying about $ 14000 for each such rifle.
      American assault rifle M16 does not exceed 600 dollars.
      And ,, Kalashnikov ,, how much?
      Without any electronics, and in the mud, and in the sands and in the water.
      The main thing is trouble-free.

      The North Koreans will always meet the AK-47 with dignity
      1. Jet
        +9
        28 September 2013 14: 00
        And what does the Kalashnikov and the grenade launcher have to do with it ?! in every article about foreign weapons, not important small arms or aircraft and naval weapons, there is a similar stubborn comment like "but Kalashnikov is still better!" A club or a sword-kladenets is even better, right ?! Cheap and trouble-free, and you can smear with dirt ...
  6. avt
    0
    28 September 2013 10: 06
    Well, x ... is it!? Of course it's beautiful, especially admiration for computer fighters from the virtual. That’s how the Tula Gryazev and Shipunov’s ADF will be more dominant, although there is no store for the built-in grenade launcher, but without batteries under water you can calmly shoot like in the air.
    Quote: chunga-changa
    If only we did not rush as usual to catch up and overtake, making another one that has no analogues

    Let the Koreans or someone else shoot from underwater.
    1. -4
      28 September 2013 14: 03
      And where is the military action in the last century took place under water?
      1. avt
        +4
        28 September 2013 14: 41
        Quote: Vitold
        And where is the military action in the last century took place under water?

        "A dagger is good when it is, and woe to those who do not have it at the right moment"
      2. 0
        3 October 2013 21: 34
        Where and under what circumstances is underwater (two-weapon weapon) used; you and I will not be informed ... hi
  7. rereture
    +6
    28 September 2013 12: 14
    What did you attack electronics, is a poorly computerized sight? which will calculate the flight path of a grenade?
    1. 0
      28 September 2013 13: 07
      The sight is good, and even very. It is simply not known how this miracle will behave in a real battle. But will the South Korean sight withstand the hit of the North Korean 7,62x39?
      1. roial
        +4
        28 September 2013 16: 43
        Well, the Soviet PSO will not stand even 5.6 mm
        1. +1
          30 September 2013 12: 57
          It is much more difficult to hit the USAR team with a bullet, and the splinter is likely to fly by, but in this "complex" the probability increases significantly.
      2. Gul
        Gul
        +6
        28 September 2013 17: 30
        Are you kidding me? Will your or my head withstand a small bullet?
    2. -1
      28 September 2013 13: 26
      What did you attack electronics, is a poorly computerized sight? which will calculate the flight path of a grenade?

      The computerized scope is not bad, but if he has a battery running out during the battle? Or will it fail? The only people who need such an assault rifle are some saboteurs operating behind enemy lines. And even then, if these saboteurs have a battery in the rear of the enemy, they will have to aim in the usual way. laughing
      1. rereture
        +2
        28 September 2013 14: 05
        Well, it’s not for the masses, as it seems to me. And if it fails, take it off and use the usual one. In local conflicts, no one will detonate electromagnetic bombs.
      2. +1
        28 September 2013 14: 10
        The battery says it will sit down. For example, I have a float with an LED. The lithium battery has been in use for five years. In the army, in the sight of night vision for the machine gun, the batteries last 2 years.
        1. +3
          28 September 2013 14: 50
          Quote: Vitold
          In the army, in the sight of night vision for the machine gun, the batteries last 2 years.

          For more details please!
          What kind of sight is this ........ do not confuse anything?
          1. +5
            28 September 2013 14: 51
            Quote: APASUS
            Quote: Vitold
            In the army, in the sight of night vision for the machine gun, the batteries last 2 years.

            For more details please!
            What kind of sight is this ........ do not confuse anything?


            No, well, if you do not include it for two years)))
          2. +2
            28 September 2013 17: 51
            Night vision device "Shahin", it also serves as a night sight for the Belgian MG 7.62x51 machine gun in Israel. Also adopted by the Russian Airborne Forces.
            1. vanaheym
              +2
              30 September 2013 23: 41
              Quote: Vitold
              Night vision device "Shahin", it also serves as a night sight for the Belgian MG 7.62x51 machine gun in Israel. Also adopted by the Russian Airborne Forces.

              This sight has nothing to do with the Israeli army - it was developed at the Moscow Central Research Institute "Cyclone". Although it is quite inferior to foreign counterparts with its 160x120 matrix, it is already better than nothing.
      3. +7
        28 September 2013 14: 45
        Quote: 0255
        What did you attack electronics, is a poorly computerized sight? which will calculate the flight path of a grenade?

        The computerized scope is not bad, but if he has a battery running out during the battle? Or will it fail? The only people who need such an assault rifle are some saboteurs operating behind enemy lines. And even then, if these saboteurs have a battery in the rear of the enemy, they will have to aim in the usual way. laughing


        Well, modern, high-quality batteries do not drain so quickly ... and not so big to carry them with a margin. And if you follow the logic - and suddenly ... Then everything can sit down, slomat, BC will end. But this is not a reason to carry a reliable stone ax))) Although its reliability is also in doubt)))
  8. +3
    28 September 2013 13: 37
    Eh, it was necessary to integrate a smartphone from "samsung" into it, then there would be no price for it ...
  9. +3
    28 September 2013 13: 40
    Weight 6,1 kg ?! And I wonder how the South Korean soldiers with this club will be controlled? They are not too small for this?
    1. +3
      28 September 2013 13: 55
      Imagine a picture: three Koreans are dragging such a fool, and two more are carrying a cart with ammunition)
      1. 0
        28 September 2013 14: 09
        Have fun .. drinks laughing
  10. Jet
    +2
    28 September 2013 14: 13
    the video clearly shows how one person copes with this. scolding someone else’s easiest .. for local actions in the city is a very useful thing. and it’s useful in nature, with a proper attitude towards it.
    1. +2
      28 September 2013 14: 17
      Uncle, do you not understand jokes?)
      It is not a matter of what weapon, but the fact that the Koreans carry it.
    2. 0
      28 September 2013 14: 22
      Perfectly?! Yes, he stands still! Moreover, empty .... A helmet, bronik, equipment, ammunition finally .... Can you imagine the weight? They saw the Koreans alive, huh? All this on the average soldier from South Korea and in battle, in the city, as in a commercial .... Only war is not advertising ....
    3. +1
      28 September 2013 14: 33
      I’ll add more ... Amers in the early 2000s had a similar project - a granotometr + rifle, but after running across Afghanistan and Iraq, they quit practicing x .... th and just divided the projects ..... that's what combat experience means !
  11. Jet
    +4
    28 September 2013 14: 43
    Well, firstly, in Korea, not the distances to which our soldiers are accustomed. secondly, motorized rifles, with established logistics, move 90% of the time in infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers, and other vehicles. at the end of the RPG, they are worn if necessary). just a new class of weapons, which over time will become more perfect and therefore more mobile. and this is the first step. South Koreans are generally difficult to blame for impracticality ..
    1. 0
      28 September 2013 14: 52
      Quote: Jet
      e. and this is just the first step
      It would be good, for Koreans, it is natural that the deliberation of this step is not to be checked in practice ... I saw an arms exhibition on TV a couple of years ago .... so there the Malay general did not like our AK-74M / GP-30 - "... heavy very ... ", but it will be easier than K11.
      1. Jet
        +7
        28 September 2013 15: 49
        comrades ... well, this is not a replacement for the main automatic rifle) it is a specific weapon, and at best 1 copy. to the squad, or even to the platoon. or generally exclusively for special. operations. I think that everyone will agree that with the further improvement of small arms, over time, the individual rifle complex will have several barrels or different calibers to solve various problems. and for this you need to start somewhere. although some, judging by the comments, want to fight at least another 50 years with ak-47;) so why not remember Mosinka?)))
        1. 0
          28 September 2013 16: 17
          That's when the weight is reduced to 3,5 - 4,5 kg, then we'll talk ....
          1. 0
            28 September 2013 16: 25
            But what was said above ....
          2. Gul
            Gul
            -1
            28 September 2013 17: 35
            Are you planning to fly away from recoil of light weapons by 3-4 meters?
  12. Yankuz
    -5
    28 September 2013 15: 14
    That's what our army needs !!! And here we continue to invent a bicycle called AK-12 ... When will they finally understand that AK-12 is the last CENTURY! There are no words!
    1. +2
      29 September 2013 20: 43
      Imagine yourself in a battle with such a bandura, you’ll be tortured to drag it, there’s nothing to grab at all.
  13. +6
    28 September 2013 16: 01
    thing is good but DIMENSIONS belay
    I do not agree that the way the flawed tendency of electronics to decrease in size
    about batteries the problem is solvable here is a whole power plant
  14. +5
    28 September 2013 16: 22
    There is one good truth - not a single universal tool can perform all the functions embedded in it fully. In my opinion, this also applies to weapons.
    1. +3
      28 September 2013 17: 06
      submachine gun
      no gun - big, heavy
      no machine gun - not enough firepower
      but found his niche
      P, C, grenade there ...
  15. Stepnogorets
    0
    28 September 2013 16: 31
    The growth of a fighter must be at least two meters! And so, probably a normal weapon!
    1. Gul
      Gul
      +3
      28 September 2013 17: 38
      the device weighs 6 kg, the height of the fighter is 2 meters. Noticed ... PC weighs more than 10 kg, therefore, we must think, the growth of a fighter - three meters. Truly Russians are some kind of miraculous heroes!
  16. +3
    28 September 2013 16: 56
    For information sympathizing with such miraculous aggregates and reckoning everything native to the last century: the rifle part of these monsters from the same century as all other assault rifles. In addition, this sample, like the American XM29, is not a machine gun with a grenade launcher, but rather a grenade launcher with a machine gun serving as an auxiliary, and not the main weapon. Apparently this is why the Americans threw the rifle unit out of their XM29 and adopted only a grenade launcher, as a separate weapon.
  17. +5
    28 September 2013 18: 57
    Useless machine, very heavy, bulky. Apparently, the Koreans didn’t show close-ups of the enemies, they are all wearing body armor, wearing helmets, and probably still wearing winter clothes, which of them can be struck with a 20 mm grenade, half of which is electronic filling; norms, it is necessary to make superbarrel grenades of a larger caliber with the possibility of use as hand ones.
  18. +1
    28 September 2013 19: 06
    I like Daewoo more than their cars. :)
  19. Garunu4
    +2
    28 September 2013 20: 17
    Good evening. The strange bandura is still cumbersome, heavy for the role of the infantry’s personal weapon,
    for special forces. operations if only. Weapons for local conflicts with a technologically backward enemy. Laser rangefinders are most likely installed, they unmask. The high-explosive action of a grenade is small, fragmentation can be done with a splinter-proof coat, if not removed, then reduce the percentage by 70. Material for large-scale serial production is not very suitable, it is understandably selected according to the criterion of less weight. Yet, for such systems, the time has not yet come due to the lack of explosives for grenades or methods of its delivery. Moreover, the very goals of creation, for wall means of destruction, are still abundant.
    1. vanaheym
      0
      1 October 2013 01: 56
      Quote: Garunu4
      Laser rangefinders installed most likely, unmask

      A laser rangefinder is not a laser sight; its trigger is measured in milliseconds.
  20. 0
    28 September 2013 22: 39
    By the totality of properties, this weapon can be used for anti-terrorist operations (unless, of course, there are those who want to unfasten such grandmothers for it). For war it is completely unsuitable, since they will have time to kill its owner 10 times while he looks into his sophisticated scope. It makes sense to use such a weapon only as part of a unified command and control system being developed by the Americans; only a Korean gun does not fit in any way with it.
  21. -2
    29 September 2013 01: 11
    A good idea. Maybe you don’t crawl in such a field, but for the city it’s the most. And do not throw poop, any complex weapon has childhood diseases. It’s just that they will cure these diseases over time, and we will remain with AK-47 (74).
    1. Garunu4
      +1
      29 September 2013 02: 17
      And you try to shoot from it from around the corner, it weighs 6 kg empty, and all the ammunition is 8. And from the prone position you want to substitute your forehead, the fighter’s profile is quite high, and even the range finder unmasks you, although it’s unclear whether it constantly works or no. Shooting at the windows is certainly a good idea, but whether it will be possible to do so is not a shooting gallery. If you really do a system for such tasks, at this technological stage, then 400mm. a grenade and separately, like a hand grenade launcher, armor is also developing, 200mm. it will not be enough. So it turns out that this is a prototype for the destruction of the Papuans. Our army will not be able to fight the Papuans, if that happens, they will definitely not have a stone ax weapon, I think you know the story of the stingers in Afghanistan.
    2. 0
      6 October 2013 12: 11
      AK-47 removed from service almost half a century ago .. What are you talking about?
  22. georg737577
    +2
    29 September 2013 02: 34
    South African people have long made a separate grenade launcher in a "rifle" design. Expensive, true, but reliable.
  23. +2
    29 September 2013 12: 51
    A very massive gadget and with mediocre characteristics like everything is universal ...
    1. Kir
      0
      29 September 2013 16: 08
      Absolutely right!!! Let’s take a musical processor so if class 1 is displayed there, then the components of the class are most likely the third, here the same thing, by the way, and the station wagon knife is inferior in many respects to the knife sharpened by one function, it’s enough to read masters on the art of survival.
      In general, there definitely is, unfortunately, although the fact that the enemies ahead along this path pleases !!! if only we come to our senses until It’s too late !!! that the soldier is obtained by applying to the technique and not vice versa, but it’s more difficult to prepare a real specialist Yes, and losing it is often not so quickly feasible !!!, and then he gave the complex to hand and go !!!
      In conclusion, as long as the current ideology dominates in all its manifestations, we will continue to follow the dead end !!!!!
  24. The Indian Joe
    +2
    29 September 2013 19: 50
    I wonder when the homing anti-personnel grenades will appear? And the mandatory set of infantry equipment will include devices for the ejection of dipole reflectors, heat traps, and even an infantry version of the active protection complex)))
    1. 0
      30 September 2013 02: 56
      Enough and homing grenades laughing
  25. LAO
    LAO
    +1
    29 September 2013 20: 44
    A lot of complaints about dead batteries. Utilize the energy of recoil and electricity is enough to also charge the cell phone.
  26. +2
    30 September 2013 08: 35
    I look at the picture and there is a feeling that the Americans sold Daewoo their sketches. not blueprints, namely sketches. in detail it is clear that there are differences.

    = ^ _ ^ =
  27. qwert1707
    +1
    30 September 2013 20: 30
    Yes, of course, the device is not bad if this is, so to speak, the first "test". But here's the weight for 6kg belay for city battles not ice ... jump in full gear on stairs, windows, etc. And here's another question that begs from experience .. After 150 shots from a grenade launcher, AKMu starts to come in ... And then this is a miracle .. made of plastic .. oh, I’m very hard at its durability .. moreover, a store for 5 grenades ...
  28. +1
    3 October 2013 21: 49
    Another show-off before the 'brotherly' North Korea - look at what a tongue-in-cheek pistil ... tongue
  29. 0
    6 October 2013 12: 19
    Dead end ... Multifunctional weapons are not a good option. Remote-controlled grenade launcher is a good weapon. But only when it is not in a single case with an automatic rifle. In a single case, the rifle is no longer a rifle and the grenade launcher is not a grenade launcher. Of course everyone wants a three-in-one, etc. But versatility is at the expense of functionality. Where is the best for the assault group to have 2-3 shooters and the 1st with a hand grenade launcher with a rangefinder-sight complex, etc. The arrows will perform their task, and their grenade launcher. And it will not be necessary to think how to hit the enemy at the moment. Everyone will do their job.
  30. 0
    8 October 2013 16: 13
    Epic sweater! In the first picture, what kind of cable from the sight? To the battery or to 220V?
  31. Strv
    0
    2 November 2013 14: 00
    Normal designers fight for every gram of weight, the soldiers throw out the excess for the sake of a spare store, and here is a present for you. Cart included.