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How is the recent history of "Great Romania"

How is the recent history of "Great Romania"Romanian Prime Minister Victor Ponta said recently that no later than 2018 of the year “the second great unification of Romania” could be accomplished. Ponta is the man who decided to change Traian Basescu as president. Recall the elections in the country will be held soon - November 2, and the powers of the current head of state will expire on December 21. As for Mr. Basescu, he is promoting the idea of ​​merging the “divided people” with the 2006 of the year.

The current President of Romania, Mr. Basescu, has already served two five-year terms on the Romanian throne. If Victor Ponta replaces him, the foreign policy relating to the “merger” of the two countries can move from the field of propaganda into the sphere of practice.

Victor Ponta has every chance of being elected. According to opinion polls, the prime minister, supported by the ruling center-left coalition, is an undoubted favorite of the election campaign. His competitors are weak - the mayor of Sibiu, Klaus Johannis, the nominee of the National Liberal Party, and the former Minister of Tourism, Elena Udrya, who was nominated by the right-wing parties. The third competitor is Theodore Meleshkanu, director of foreign intelligence services, whom the Social Democratic Party has blessed. However, he took part in the election race too late, and he has no chance to win. May prevent him and age (73 year).

What can be noted on a post of the president in case of a victory Victor Ponta?

At the pre-election speeches, he is applauded for the theses on making the dream of creating “Great Romania” a reality. The most loud statement by the presidential candidate was made on September 14 at a meeting with an activist of the Romanian Social Democratic Party in the city of Alba Iulia. He said bluntly that Moldova will become part of the Romanian territory, writes "Moscow Komsomol".

This statement outraged the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs. “From the candid appeals of the presidential candidate Romania to“ make the second great union by 2018 ”, it clearly follows that certain political circles in Bucharest still feed the annexationist plans in relation to the neighboring sovereign neutral country,” the agency’s website said.

Surprisingly, the opinion of the Moldovans is of little interest to Victor Ponto and his supporters. They consider them Romanians - and the point. However, the Moldovans do not intend to lose their statehood. And many in Chisinau believe that we are talking only about absurd electoral propaganda, and they will not get to the point. "Uniri" will not take place in the same way as it did not take place at Basescu.

In fact, neither Basescu nor the Ponte do not care about the population of Moldova. But here it is a matter of foreign territories, which the “great” rulers consider their own.

Corneliu Machu ("Voice of Russia") writes:

“However, now it’s not even the case that Romanian politicians are trying to conquer their electorate through proposals for annexing a foreign country. And it’s not about the fact that no more than 10% of Moldovans wanted to unite with the “mother of Romania” even in the best times for unionism. And about the strange feeling that all this ostentatious Europeanization of Romania, tolerance and culture is only a disguise. But in fact, Romanian politicians have never lost hope of getting Moldova again. Bessarabia, as they call it, having in mind, of course, is not at all the romance of the time of Pushkin, but the status of Moldova in Romania from 1918 to 1940 years. And from 1941 to 1944, when the Romanians, side by side with the Nazis, established the “Millennial Reich”, and “everything is permitted”. Most elderly people say that they still remember the signs on the Chisinau trams: “Speak Romanian!” Like the contempt with which the Romanian authorities treated the population of the newly acquired territories, especially the Moldovans, who for them were “myrlans” - spoiled by the Romanians. And this persistence and immutability of the desires of the Romanian political elite, be it in the European Union or in the allies of Nazi Germany, are the most frightening today. ”

Basescu's propaganda was built on a clear thesis about the “divided people.” Through the introduction of unambiguous slogans about “reunification” into the masses, the crowd learns that the newest history countries should be rewritten. The lack of education, the elementary ignorance of history, and therefore the super-easy accessibility of the masses to manipulators always leads to the fact that the most ridiculous ideas find a huge number of supporters. So it was with the political sermons of Basescu, who, since 2006, had constantly reiterated about the “divided people” - and even about such people who (the only one in Europe) remained on opposite sides of the pillars: “Romania and Romanians are the only country, the only people who divided into Europe after the reunification of Germany ... ”The mention of Germany in this context looks really terrifying. Especially considering that the overwhelming majority of Moldovans are not ready to become Romanians. By the way, Basescu said about the mentioned reunion not to the Romanians, but to the Moldovan schoolchildren who won the Olympics on the history of Romania (July 2006).

Artyom Kobzev ("") recalls that in 2013, a sociological survey of public opinion was conducted in Romania at the request of the newspaper Аdevarul in Romania. 61,7% of respondents answered “yes” to the question “If the European integration of Moldova were impossible, would you agree to the unification of Moldova with Romania?” Moreover, 44% of respondents reported that at least once they saw “Bessarabia” in public places in Romania. - Romanian land "or" Bessarabia is Romania. "

In early 2014, the Romanian Agency News Mediafax has launched an online study. The audience was asked a simple question: “Do you agree with the unification of Romania and Moldova?” 68,2% of the participants voted in favor.

All this is called in the language of sociologists "positive dynamics." The number of supporters of the merger is growing. Moreover, we note again, it grows only on one side of the border.

Not for nothing on the eve of the New Year, 2014 of the year, Basescu said in his pre-New Year address to the nation: “2014 will be the year in which we declare honestly and openly that Moldova is Romanian land.”

In addition to propaganda and sociological polls, some practical steps are being taken in Romania, supposedly being taken for the benefit of fraternal Moldova. True, then it turns out that this is an ordinary propaganda fiction. Probably associated with loud statements by politicians and the heat of pre-election passions.

on September 29 IA "REGNUM" referring to Agerpres, the Romanian companies Romgaz and Petrom sent to the Moldovan authorities proposals to supply gas to the republic through the Iasi-Ungheni gas pipeline at a price that is 20% lower than the price of Russian gas.

Meanwhile, it was about the volume of about 14 thousand cubic meters. m per hour (approximately 3% of Moldavian needs), which, we add, cannot be of decisive economic importance. Another thing - the political effect.

IA "REGNUM" reminds that Moldova is dependent on Russian gas supplies for all 100%. The Iasi-Ungeni gas pipeline, opened on August 27, could reduce the country's dependence on Gazprom from 100% to 95%.

It is interesting here that the so-called “Romanian gas” could only be received by residents of two regions of Moldova - border ones.

However, gas promises were made before, but there were no supplies and no.

The fact is that, as the agency notes, Romania does not even cover its internal needs from its own sources, importing from Russia from 22% to 42% of the total gas consumption.

"Moscow Komsomol" asked the experts about whether there is a likelihood of Romania joining Moldovan territories.

Vladimir Zharikhin, Deputy Director of the Institute of CIS Countries, responded that all opinion polls indicate that a significant majority of Moldovan citizens do not want to join Romania. And definitely Transnistria and Gagauzia will not join Romania. According to the expert, such political statements are designed for the nationalist circles of Romania and to win the election. Romania has no mechanisms for joining.

The general director of the Center for Political Information, Alexei Mukhin, similarly noted that Romanian politicians in this way “earn political capital for themselves” Today, the Romanian politicians are playing on the moods of nationalist, radical groups, providing themselves with additional support in the elections.

Russia, we add, should consider this.

Even if in any way, from loud propaganda and ending with the distribution of Romanian passports (now a little more than 300, thousands of Moldovans have Romanian citizenship, which they received to find work in the European Union), Bucharest will be able to turn the majority of Moldovans in their favor, and in 2018 will indeed be organized a referendum, then Transnistria and probably Gagauzia will break away from Moldova. There are practically no supporters of the Uniri, and there cannot be. As a result, Transnistria and Gagauzia can hold their referendums and join Russia. Or, at least, to become a state entity and enter the Customs Union. Moldovan politicians who advocate “romanization” should also take this into account.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Renat
    Renat 1 October 2014 09: 43
    Well here is another Great Empire. How many of them are Great and Powerful in Eastern Europe?
    1. Cormorants
      Cormorants 1 October 2014 09: 52
      All these small countries flourished quite normally and lived under the protectorate of the Russian Empire. And now, without Russia, they are completely embittered and spoiled!
      1. supertiger21
        supertiger21 1 October 2014 17: 06
        Sorry people, I put a minus to the article. Give me the minuses as much as you want, but in my opinion the article is subjective.
        Namely, Romanians and Moldovans can really be considered one nation, despite the fact that de jure it is not so. Notice that now, even by constitution, the language of Moldova is Romanian. Here you can clearly see the historical parallel. The same Ukrainian ethnos and Ukrainian language in fact, it was not until the 19th century. The main sponsor of this idea was Austria-Hungary, who did not want to see Galicia as part of the Russian people. In the 20th century, the USSR pursued a similar policy (parallel to Austria-Hungary) but did not want to see Bessarabia as part of the Romanian people (parallel to Galicia). After all, we made the way to unite with the original Russian people of Crimea, so why forbid other peoples in this?! Therefore, I saw double standards in the article. The behavior in politics that I hate the most! negative
        1. fennekRUS
          fennekRUS 1 October 2014 22: 38
          Therefore, I saw double standards in the article - but I will take it and agree. Everyone plays their part in geopolitics. And everyone wants to grab more. This is a natural process. So to shame the gypsies, I beg your pardon the Romanians, will come out on Krylov- ... But Vaska listens, but eats! A series of the collapse of "empires", globalization, multiculturalism (not to be remembered by nightfall) are aggravating centripetal sentiments. Each branch of the "Earth" corporation seeks to pull the blanket from other "departments", and the "heads of departments" who have sat down without career growth are not averse to shit on the "old men" from the board of directors, deliberately intensifying competition between the "departments"
          1. krivdaSPb
            krivdaSPb 3 October 2014 11: 29
            And I will agree.
            I’ll add, perhaps, what difference does it make, of what interests and who is adding something to themselves if the living standards of the population of the annexed lands increase thereby?
            Romania, of course, is far from the most prosperous power, but Moldova, by comparison, is an order of magnitude lower.
            And if the merger gives Moldovans an increase in living standards, I am only for it.
            Well, plus, - not everything is separated! There must be a balance in political processes. Someone disconnects, someone merges. God help you, as they say :)
            I would give Poland and the Galitchina, since they all want it there so much. And what? Let them merge. There will be no life with Ukraine anyway. And so, at least someone will be saved.
        2. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 5 October 2014 23: 00
          Quote: supertiger21
          After all, the same Ukrainian ethnic group and the Ukrainian language did not actually exist until the 19 century

          The word Ukraine itself, as noted by one of the forum participants, from Lviv, first appeared in the opposition newspaper published in Lvov in 1904, so to some extent you are right, but Ukraine is based on the territory of the former Little Russia (Little Russia) , which, due to its agrarian policy, became isolated in its Old Slavonic language, did not accept foreign words into this language. But whatever it was, in the "Church Slavonic Dictionary of Archpriest Dyachenko" ed. 1900, you can find the meaning of most of the words used in the territory of today's Ukraine. There are also Turkish words, names and surnames in this language, which came to this language during the ministry of the Cossacks on the side of Turkey. Few people know that the famous "janissaries" are the children of Christians, primarily the Zaporozhians who settled in Turkey and were taken from their families at the age of 8 according to the "Christian quitrent", and brought up by the Turks as "janissaries". There are also Polish words. But the dictionary of foreign words existing in the Russian language, published on 255 pages in 2014, does not give us the right to call the Russian language "surzhik". And also the Old Russian language does not lose its ethnography (ethnos gr. = People) only because someone from Austria-Hungary came up with this word, adding to the Slavic word "Krajna" = country + "U". That is, "Near the country" and then the question arises: with which country, since we are used to the word "Outskirts" - "Okolitsa" = close. But the word came from Austria-Hungary.
          Therefore, let's talk about the language of Little Russia, even if not "Ukrainian", that is, Hungarian, but the language from which the Russian language originated, which absorbed Latin, Greek, French and other words. And let's learn that it was Austria-Hungary that began the creation of the state of Ukraine in order to sign a peace treaty and thus get out of the World War, not in Russia, but as a buffer state Ukraine, and it was the flag of the province of Galicia that moved to Ukrainian territory.
      2. Unknow88
        Unknow88 2 October 2014 05: 46
        Well, right, Russia was holding back the economies of these countries. And in independent mode, they have a sharp decline ... In addition, the European Union has also done its job.
        The European Union is a financial milking parlor! Why is Ukraine so torn there, I don’t understand?
    2. Cormorants
      Cormorants 1 October 2014 09: 52
      All these small countries flourished quite normally and lived under the protectorate of the Russian Empire. And now, without Russia, they are completely embittered and spoiled!
    3. Sakhalininsk
      Sakhalininsk 2 October 2014 02: 17
      Quote: Renat
      Well here is another Great Empire. How many of them are Great and Powerful in Eastern Europe?

      I can only say one thing about this. Romania has always been a bullock of geyrops, and if Moldavians so want to be part of this ulus of marginal ... tailwind in the hunchback, the main thing is not to forget to help self-determination to the Gagauzians, Pridnestrovians and other enclaves ... and at the same time to insert a half-boot into the inter-berry space from all the guest workers from Moldavia, let it go, as they say on the great Romanian bread, yourself and your children, the elderly keep.
  2. FC SKIF
    FC SKIF 1 October 2014 09: 46
    Apparently the name of Pontus comes from the word Pontus.
    1. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 5 October 2014 23: 10
      Quote: FC SKIF
      the state of Pontus from which Pilate of Pontus came out, existed at the time of Christ on the southern coast of the Black Sea, another meaning in gr. lang. Pont = sea. But "Pontus" to crush comes, apparently, from lat. "power" - "you push with your power."
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 1 October 2014 09: 58
    In Moldova, the November elections are also parliamentary. And it is not a fact that the Communists and ideologically close parties will not gain a majority or at least half of the seats in parliament. It’s too early for Pontus to pound, and still in front of a mustache.
  4. parusnik
    parusnik 1 October 2014 10: 38
    How is the recent history of "Great Romania"... with the fact that the ancestors of the Romanians dug up the Danube ...
  5. Vend
    Vend 1 October 2014 11: 00
    Yes, if Romania surrenders Moldova, they will gladly abandon Transnistria and Gagauzia. They get more, not even a titmouse. and the crane, and let the tit out. Let it fly. The main thing is for the EU to support, but the EU will not support. Germany does not need the strengthening of other EU countries. She wants to manage everything herself. So the Romanians can relax with their fantasies. laughing
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 1 October 2014 11: 57
      Romania is not Russia. Every square METER is important to them. Even off the shelf about. Serpentine, they fought for a long time and persistently. And they got our Soviet shelf. Even if Russia takes Ukraine, or at least the South-East, getting this shelf without war will not work. I tell you personally, a citizen of a vast country, you should not even be so scornful and frivolous about an inch of your land. Enough, in 91 they already pissed all that they could, and even more ...
  6. iner
    iner 1 October 2014 12: 08
    It is better for Romanians to think about how to preserve their national identity, within the framework of Romania itself. If she still means something to them.
  7. korjik
    korjik 1 October 2014 12: 15
    It remains a mystery to me why Stalin left Romania's Ploiesti oil region. Why didn’t he territorially punish Bulgaria for a coalition with Germany in both World Wars (the same Varna is no worse than Crimea) Why did the Poles get Gdansk? And not like Oymyakon. What are these Slavs and brothers did not the Slavs deserve the forgiveness of their betrayal?
    1. Balalaikin
      Balalaikin 1 October 2014 16: 10
      F.M.Dostoevsky: “One very special word about the Slavs ...”
      ... Russia will never have, and never has had, such haters, envious people, slanderers, and even obvious enemies, like all these Slavic tribes, as soon as Russia liberates them, and Europe agrees to recognize them liberated! ...
      Maybe a whole century, or even more, they will constantly tremble for their freedom and fear the power of Russia; they will curry favor with European states, they will slander Russia, gossip on it and intrigue against it.
      Russia needs to seriously prepare for the fact that all these liberated Slavs will rush into Europe with ecstasy, before losing their personality will become infected with European forms, political and social, and thus will have to go through a long and long period of Europeanism before comprehending anything in its Slavic meaning and its special Slavic vocation among the humanity.
      Between themselves, these zemstvos will always quarrel, forever envy each other and intrigue against each other.

      Of course, in the moment of some serious disaster, they all will certainly turn to Russia for help.
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 5 October 2014 23: 25
        Quote: Balalaikin
        F.M.Dostoevsky: “One very special word about the Slavs ...”

        Here's how to give Dostoevsky "10 +", and not Balalaikin alone, for knowledge.
    2. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 5 October 2014 23: 22
      Have you forgotten that "the dictator and usurper Stalin" left capitalist Austria, do not forget about the award "For the capture of Vienna", left Finland sovereign, and what prevented you from reaching Helsinki ?, rewarded Bulgaria for refusing to participate in the war against the USSR with sovereignty What prevented him from going to Oslo in the north? After all, the Allies landed there after the signing of Germany's surrender, and what is interesting is that the British were the first to land there on fighters! In general ... a usurper, a dictator and what else? A genius man who, in 37, exterminated all adherents of the spread of the World Revolution with the help of terror and the extermination of most of the Russian people in this World War against capitalism.
  8. opus
    opus 1 October 2014 12: 19
    Moldovan politicians who advocate "Romanization" must also take this into account.
    but for me so let RUMA (a) be lowered.
    1. Romania is unlikely to pull out, and if it pulls out, it’s sooo long.
    Example: the unification of Germany is still felt, and the GDR is not Moldova, and Romania is clear the stump is not Germany
    2. Want a remake?
    [i] -From ancient times until the 1924 year, Moldavians were constantly in the position of unskilled labor, the mob, mercilessly exploited first by the European barons, then by the Ottoman Turks, and then by the Romanian princes. [/ i]

    So this is already ready: "... Romania rejects any statement confirming the idea of ​​the existence of the Moldovan nation and language, different from the Romanian." (Theodor Baconschi, Minister of Foreign Affairs of Romania) [/ i]

    Maybe Romania should nevertheless be annexed to Moldova?
    Ion Druta, a famous Moldavian playwright, said: “The language of Romania and Moldova is Moldavian (!) Language. This is the grandmother of modern Romanian. ” After all, when Romania, as we know it, was not yet on the map, the Moldavian principalities gravitated to Russia, and in the Middle Ages Moldavia was sometimes called Rusovlakhia, i.e., Russian Vlachia or Vlachia, located near the very borders of Russia. Transylvania, which was under Hungarian rule, was called Ungrovlahia.

    So for reference:
    "In the Middle Ages, the word" Romanian "(rum? N) meant" serf ", as this original ethnonym, that is, the name of the people, received a social meaning.
    In Byzantium, Romanians were called “Vlachs,” that is, shepherds, and this word had a derogatory meaning.
    And if it were not for the Habsburgs, who, having received suzerainty over Transylvania in 1699, began to "shit" in full ... it is not known how it would have been
    1. korjik
      korjik 1 October 2014 18: 57
      Typically homosexual squeal, to continue with your series of examples. the name of the ethnos "Slavs", as the Pravoseki claim, came from the word "sklaven", that is, a slave.
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 5 October 2014 23: 35
        "Slavs" = worshiping the ancient goddess "Glory" who gave birth to all other gods, from Dazhbog, Perun and Veles, and therefore nicknamed "Theotokos" and "Queen of Heaven" in other Russia
  9. VSZMK
    VSZMK 1 October 2014 12: 19
    Moldova will become part of the Romanian territory,

    What about South Bukovina?
  10. MAX2014
    MAX2014 1 October 2014 12: 20
    I live in the PMR, we do not want to Moldova, not to mention Romania. We want to go to Russia.
  11. Dymster
    Dymster 1 October 2014 15: 09
    Epta, in the middle of the 19th century this ***** was founded by Russia, in the WWII it was not privatized only at the expense of Russia, in the Second World War ***** by Nazi Germany. And what moral and historical claims does it have on Moldova?
    DRUG DRUG 1 October 2014 15: 25
    Victor Ponta - he is Ponta, that is from the word "show-off". But, as they say, Ponta assumes, and Russia disposes.
  13. bistrov.
    bistrov. 2 October 2014 08: 23
    These are all pre-election conversations. First of all, the European Union will not allow such a dangerous precedent. So Poland will want the "Eastern Kresses", and Hungary, Beregovo, etc. Russia will then, on a completely legal basis, demand the annexation of the whole of Ukraine.
  14. Prager
    Prager 3 November 2014 15: 40
    there will be a great romania with the blessing of the states, no doubt about it!