Psaki criticized Abbas for his words (quote) "about the Israeli occupation"

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From the rostrum of the UN General Assembly, which turned into the main political platform of these days, the official head of the Palestinian Authority, Mahmoud Abbas, spoke on the eve of his speech. He said that the main problem of Palestine today is (quote) “Israeli occupation of Palestinian territories and Israeli settlement activity”. Reports about it ITAR-TASS.

Mahmoud Abass:
It is impossible to return to the cycle of negotiations, during which the main issue could not be resolved. There is no point in the negotiations, the stated goal of which is not to end the Israeli occupation and achieve independence of the Palestinian state with its capital in East Jerusalem and throughout the Palestinian territory occupied during the 1967 war of the year. In addition, the negotiations that are not tied to the precise implementation of this schedule are worth nothing.


Psaki criticized Abbas for his words (quote) "about the Israeli occupation"


Abbas said it’s time for Israel to stop settler activity. In addition, the head of the Palestinian Authority noted that it was time to start correcting the mistakes of the past and follow the path of a full-fledged agreement to draft a peace treaty on the basis of demarcation actions - actions to clearly define the borders between Israel and Palestine.

Washington has already responded to the statements of Abbas. State Department star Jen Psaki quotes RIA News:

President Abbas’s today's speech contained offensive characteristics that disappointed us and which we strongly reject. Such provocative statements are counterproductive, they also undermine efforts to create a favorable atmosphere and restore trust between the parties.


What kind of effort is undermining and what kind of a good atmosphere psaki says? Apparently, to answer this question, she, too, will have to work additionally in her office with documents ...
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    1. +12
      27 September 2014 08: 35
      What kind of effort is undermining and what kind of a good atmosphere psaki says? Apparently, to answer this question, she, too, will have to work additionally in her office with documents ...
      Precisely marked. hi Poor office ...
      1. +14
        27 September 2014 08: 39
        Thanks to the translators, Jen Psaki doesn't seem so hopelessly stupid as she really is!
        1. +5
          27 September 2014 08: 54
          He stated that the main problem in Palestine today is (quote) "Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories and Israeli settlement activity."

          And not only Palestine .... tentacles around the world are shrouded .. (especially in Ukraine) hi
          1. +2
            27 September 2014 12: 35
            Quote: MIKHAN
            And not only Palestine .... tentacles around the world are shrouded .. (especially in Ukraine)

            Oh, about this "our" media are silent.
            More examples - announcements NTV gears:
            1. Is the "Ukrainian scenario" possible in Russia?
            2. Who promotes Khodorkovsky as president of Russia.
            What is it like?
            It turns out that Khodorkovsky is already a presidential candidate, but we did not know that!
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        3. +5
          27 September 2014 09: 01
          What is it worth to the translators ... crying
          In their heads they "move the pianos" tensely, they creatively powerfully ...

          Greetings, Sasha.

          "Under the window. On green branches.
          Early birds spread out.
          Sparrows, you are thieves like me,
          And you have thieves' habits.

          Chick-tweet ... You can see your voice
          So miracle that they don’t even put in a cage
          That's why you steal, brother.
          With yellowness. Like me. From an early age ... "

          / M.V. Vorobyov (Circle) / drinks
          1. +9
            27 September 2014 10: 11
            Quote: Ptah
            In their heads they "move the pianos" tensely, they creatively powerfully ...


            Vadim! Greetings! Creativity, such creativity ... I remembered Danelia's comedy "Passport"

            1. Cenij150814
              +3
              27 September 2014 12: 53
              laughing I can’t laugh, the whole Jewish nature in a two-minute passage!
              1. Cenij150814
                +5
                27 September 2014 13: 41
                A song for uplifting laughing
              2. +6
                27 September 2014 14: 24
                Quote: Cenij150814
                I can’t laugh, the whole Jewish nature in a two-minute passage!


                This is addressed to psaki. What happens when you blurt out not in the "line".
                In pursuit of the same film to cheer up.

        4. VICTOR-61
          +17
          27 September 2014 09: 18
          Psaki is preparing for the performance
        5. Reasonable, 2,3
          +6
          27 September 2014 10: 21
          She’s not stupid. Everything is not as it seems. This is a well-known distraction technique. Do you really think that the evil empire is the only one ... you are sitting, not at all. The idiotic announcements always go after a certain event. Think, and then divide by 10.
          1. +2
            28 September 2014 00: 02
            The fact of the matter is that despite the stupidity (simulated or real) of this Psaki, in a magical way everything that she says becomes true for Europe and the UN. How so?
            You're right, they don't keep fools there. Well, or they keep it "blind".
      2. +7
        27 September 2014 08: 51
        Quote: retired
        she will also have to work additionally in her office with documents.

        If before that, IN ADDITIONAL SPECIFICATION, where is that office. Then it will SPECIFY - are there any documents there. And those are the documents. In general, is it documents or something else ...
        In general - this is for a long time ...
        1. +4
          27 September 2014 09: 58
          Quote: Ptah
          If before that, IN ADDITIONAL SPECIFICATION, where is that office. Then it will SPECIFY - are there any documents there. And those are the documents. In general, is it documents or something else ... In general, it is for a long time ...



          If the salmon began to come from Belarus, then I'm already thinking about the fact that Psaki is not such a fool .. laughing

          Hi Vadim...
          1. +4
            27 September 2014 10: 55
            I already got to my office and even clarified something ...
            Namely, that ...
            Once, Sash. We have no time to twitter yet ...
            I’ll look for worms for now, but I’ll bury them in a nest with the sign "Takoy-syakoye OJSC", and I’ll put you on a musical pause.
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        3. +5
          27 September 2014 10: 02
          Quote: Ptah
          If before that, IN ADDITIONAL SPECIFICATION, where is that office. Then it will SPECIFY - are there any documents there. And those are the documents. In general, is it documents or something else ...
          In general - this is for a long time ...


          EBN at one time, too6 successfully worked with documents, which brought untold joy and gescheft "occupants"
          1. +6
            27 September 2014 10: 51
            Greetings, Stanislav! You have no idea how you cheered me up in a boring "scribe" by mentioning FIU EBNi.
            After all EBNya - "our everything." "Our", in a sense, there was another reason to spend a dull Saturday in banter over this Alcosaurus.

            A case came of his parting with some parts of his worker-peasant claw.
            Two fingers parted with the owner after he, along with two loyal friends (future voters) allegedly stole the collected military grenade (device brand - RGD-33) from the military warehouse and, obeying a feeling of natural boyish curiosity, decided to disassemble it with the help of simple tools - a nearby stump and hammer.
            Fate favored the future president, and allowed him, at such an early age, to show him a sense of responsibility towards several citizens of "his" country, whom he then asked to move away into the bushes. As a result, the parents absentmindedly waited for the children from the forest.
            But Borya did not return all.
            As we understand now, it would be better on the contrary. It would tear Boryusik from his fingers and hang it on the nearest bushes. Then elect. it would have been much more problematic for the headquarters to hold the president’s election campaign, when FINGERS would be the candidate.

            In fact, Yeltsin after another proletarian booze at night, in a fierce winter, fell into a ditch, where he immediately fell asleep in thought about Rasei. In the morning he already had gangrene on two fingers of his left hand.
            And then the doctors made a mistake with the choice. It was necessary to reject not hypercooled fingers, but a hangover EBNu from them.

            How EBON caught his own nose bridge uncontrollable tactical deafness ... Or rather, on the contrary, controlled by a neighbor boy, I will tell in the next series. Follow the announcement.
            Thank you. hi

            And now I have to pretend to be an active office plankton, so that krill passing by, in the person of the boss, would not consider me the least valuable member of the crew and would not throw me into the abyss of water like Stenka princess ...
            1. Past_ Crocodile
              +1
              27 September 2014 12: 43
              I read a year in 1997 in a purchased TV program
              Speech by E.B.Nya.Yeltsin
      3. +2
        27 September 2014 09: 03
        The normal speech of Abbas, but perceived inadequately by the ignorant Psaki.
        1. Atanda
          0
          27 September 2014 09: 55
          Psaki criticized Abbas for his words (quote) "about the Israeli occupation"

          The title is rather "ambiguous" to say the least. At first, you understand that it was Psaka herself who blurted out about the Israeli occupation (this fool might), and after reading the article, it turns out that everything is fine - you will no longer surprise anyone with the stupidity of the State Department and the petty intelligence of its employees. What a pop and such a parish.
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      5. 0
        28 September 2014 03: 51
        With such a tongue, Psaki can only drink poison, as well as those whose words are presented to the whole world by this talking head
    2. +6
      27 September 2014 08: 36
      What to pull, let Obama order the annihilation of the peoples of those countries that speak and think differently from what Psaki dictates. Goebbels is resting.
      1. +3
        27 September 2014 08: 42
        Quote: 1536
        let Obama order the destruction of nations


        really .. he's not white and not fluffy laughing
    3. +4
      27 September 2014 08: 36
      Matt ... brother ... by her troll please about the difference between the mind and the brain ...
    4. +4
      27 September 2014 08: 37
      State Department Star Jen Psaki
      Zadornov to help you.
    5. +3
      27 September 2014 08: 39
      Well done psaki ... how psaknet from the rostrum so everyone immediately oppsakyvatsya .... laughing wassat
    6. +1
      27 September 2014 08: 41
      "counterproductive", fashionable, but bestial word, it is immediately clear that it is not a conversation, but crap about anything. ; psaki uses it often
    7. Harry
      +1
      27 September 2014 08: 41
      It's time to give her the Nobel Prize. "For brevity and meaningfulness ...." lol
      1. +2
        27 September 2014 08: 42
        and her "office" for achievements in the field of literature
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    8. +1
      27 September 2014 08: 41
      The level of education of government officials is amazing. Psaka doesn’t say his words, the authorities ordered her so. With such knowledge, the State Department is on the eve of a grand schucher.
    9. +1
      27 September 2014 08: 43
      But they have the same psaki and sit at the buttons of atomic missiles and write reports and the same they overslept on September 11 and how much more they’ll do, they’ll oversleep and such the United States will ruin them as Gorbachev’s battle with vodka against terrorism and the result will be one and same.
      1. +2
        27 September 2014 10: 56
        That's about 11 September is not necessary! No one overslept. You can’t oversleep your own event.
      2. +1
        27 September 2014 10: 56
        That's about 11 September is not necessary! No one overslept. You can’t oversleep your own event.
    10. +3
      27 September 2014 08: 45
      the narrow specialization (which we are planting) is paying off. maybe she (psaka) cooks well, or in bed hoo
      1. Past_ Crocodile
        0
        27 September 2014 12: 35
        Cheered up)
    11. +8
      27 September 2014 08: 48
      Psaki is the "voice" of the State Department, she has nothing to think with ...
      1. +1
        27 September 2014 08: 56
        There is a voice, there is no head. How everything is started!
    12. 0
      27 September 2014 08: 53
      When Psaki Zadornov was born, he began to cry, in her opinion the term "occupation" can only be associated with us-Russia
    13. 0
      27 September 2014 08: 54
      But God awarded a fool with a surname corresponding to her status! There are such coincidences!
    14. +1
      27 September 2014 08: 56
      Psaki on the neck with a rope weights from 2 pounds, and at the bottom of the Hudson's Bay. am And there will be a "holy" place of worship for the id.io.t. of the entire planet, than not the tourism business?
      1. +3
        27 September 2014 09: 26
        Quote: Barracuda
        Psaki on the neck with a rope weights from 2 pounds, and at the bottom of the Hudson's Bay.


        to no purpose .. IT does not sink .. wassat
        1. +1
          27 September 2014 09: 40
          With a competent approach, everything drowns. smile For example, few people know that the Kamchatka monster crabs have reached Norway, threatening the local marine fauna. They guzzle everything on their way, and it’s not far from America ... For some reason they didn’t move to Alaska, they see who knows who founded it.
          1. +4
            27 September 2014 10: 02
            Quote: Barracuda
            Kamchatka crabs
            were brought artificially into the waters of the Barents Sea and, having no natural enemies, bred to the shores of Norway, you can also see that in Soviet times Trout was brought to the rivers of the Kola Peninsula, but it preferred Norwegian waters, although it is present in the waters of the Kola Peninsula but most of them migrated. I think Norway is delighted with this "occupation" by the former Soviet Union. In the direction of Alaska, trout and crabs do not move, since the warm waters of the Gulf Stream do not go to the East further than the Kara Sea. Many scientists are already sounding the alarm about crabs and suggesting massive catches, but someone is interfering ... I can tell you an interesting thing, the crab's legs are glowing and the fish inspection easily finds "prey" in cars using dosimeters, and without legs it is easy to transport them, so as dosimeters are silent. Maybe that's why they are not allowed to catch crabs for food?
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    15. 0
      27 September 2014 09: 07
      Along the way, all of North America is the territory occupied by the Anglo-Saxons. Forgotten descendants of convicts? You can recall.
    16. +1
      27 September 2014 09: 16
      Psaki scolded? So the truth is said.
    17. +2
      27 September 2014 09: 49
      The State Department has acquired a valuable thing in the person of Psaki, not a single intelligence service in the world will be interested in it because it has convinced the whole world that it has brains like a canary.
    18. Black ensign
      0
      27 September 2014 09: 57
      With this fool you see no one is engaged in love, that’s all nonsense ...
    19. +4
      27 September 2014 10: 15
      Give Jerusalem to the Muslims? This is not an option.
      1. Past_ Crocodile
        +2
        27 September 2014 11: 46
        Hitler was given the Sudetenland, Ukrainian - Crimea. The Arabs were given "Palestine" in 1947, but they wanted everything. For the support of the Arabs of the USSR, they repaid Budenovsky and other terrorist attacks. There shouldn't be any "Palestine". If the Arabs want to live in the land of the Jews, let them observe the laws of people, not monkeys.
        1. +2
          27 September 2014 13: 22
          Plusanul. Arabians-Arabia, Yaureys-Samaria and Judea.
          1. Stypor23
            +1
            28 September 2014 01: 02
            Quote: Egor65G
            Yaureyam Samaria

            They want to pick Che and Mr. Kuibyshev belay So Birobidzhan wants to be in the department.
    20. +1
      27 September 2014 10: 16
      And this little fool amuses the world community ...
    21. 0
      27 September 2014 11: 14
      The usual dull goundezh Abbas. Boring passenger.
      1. -2
        27 September 2014 14: 46
        / Egor65G / "The usual sad Abbas gundezh. Boring passenger."

        You are passengers all over the world and very arrogant! .. Abbas says everything is right!
        1. 0
          27 September 2014 14: 48
          Yeah, your opinion is very valuable to us.
          1. 0
            27 September 2014 17: 23
            / Egor65G /

            Well, your opinion is also natural for us))!
        2. Past_ Crocodile
          +1
          27 September 2014 15: 59
          I can tell where they are not.
          They are not in Iraq, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan. Run there faster, otherwise the tickets will run out.
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            1. Past_ Crocodile
              0
              27 September 2014 18: 49
              Judging by your verbal diarrhea, you licked your ass and you fucked yourself.
              1. -1
                27 September 2014 21: 23
                / Past_ Crocodile /

                Judging by you, you've been sitting on a dick for a long time and don’t get off, licking it further doesn’t work badly with the cha)).
                1. 0
                  28 September 2014 22: 34
                  Quote: Past_ Crocodile
                  Judging by your verbal diarrhea, you licked your ass and you fucked yourself.

                  Quote: prishelec
                  Judging by you, you've been sitting on a dick for a long time and don’t get off, licking it further doesn’t work badly with the cha)).


                  When two boors collide, rudeness grows faster than any mathematical progression. negative
                  Minus both of you by rating fool
    22. Past_ Crocodile
      +3
      27 September 2014 11: 15
      It’s not until PSAC, but ...
      The ancient Palestinians apparently lived at the same time as the ancient Ukrainians.
      On this basis, they demand Jerusalem (apparently built by them in antiquity). On this basis, rockets are fired at the living quarters.
      1. +5
        27 September 2014 12: 07
        Quote: Past_ Crocodile
        It’s not until PSAC, but ...
        The ancient Palestinians apparently lived at the same time as the ancient Ukrainians.
        On this basis, they demand Jerusalem (apparently built by them in antiquity). On this basis, rockets are fired at the living quarters.

        The fact is that the ancient "Palestinians" not only were not Arabs, but also did not call themselves Palestinians. Plishtim is the Hebrew word for Invaders. This is what the Jews called the representatives of the Indo-European tribes who invaded the coastal part of Eretz Yisrael from Crete and seized the coastal strip from modern Ashdod to Gaza, having founded 5 city-states (policies). Possessing more advanced weapons than the Jews (chariots and iron weapons), Plishtim defeated the Jews several times, but in the end, under King David, they were completely defeated and subdued. They finally left the map of history during the Assyrian conquest of Israel.
        1. +1
          28 September 2014 21: 20
          Can the Jewish comrades recall how they slaughtered all the Hannanites and Nabateans in the promised land, who were the true owners of this land, or simply to argue that this land was promised to you by your god? Or in general about the affiliation of modern Jews to Jews (you are called Jews only in Russia, for the rest of the world you are jude, jewish, juif, judio, jøde, etc.)
          To the Son of Man, clothed in feast and girded with a golden belt on the Persians:
          14 His head and hair are white as a white wave, like snow; and His eyes are like a flame of fire!
          How? Can you argue with John the Theologian about Jews being Jews?
    23. 0
      27 September 2014 11: 15
      Psaki radish, (in the sense of vegetable).
    24. 0
      27 September 2014 11: 48
      Interestingly, after all, she is married, and she says with her husband from notes, or her husband wrote the text for a year ahead and numbered all the sheets, so that she wouldn’t carry garbage. laughing
    25. Signature
      +1
      27 September 2014 11: 51
      It is curious: what and how much does the Palestinian politician know about the triumphant and counterproductive activities of this uniquely "advanced" State Department intellectual? Will he lament the disappointment and pessimism of such a well-known spoken genre, inspired by his performance?
      1. Signature
        +2
        27 September 2014 13: 00
        Wow: judging by the "minus", the site has just been visited by Jenny Psaki herself. To miss such a thing, what a pity! Unless, of course, Hamas ...
        God, what a tense international situation. A little more - and it seems that it will come to bombing or suicide for ideological reasons.
        Completeness, citizens: more peacefulness must be shown and blessed restraint! (As the classic said, "Alexander the Great, of course, is a hero, but why break chairs?")
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          +2
          27 September 2014 13: 52
          Mr Egor65G (or maybe Aaron Zawi?)

          Nothing offensive or evil to the Jewish people (as, by the way, believe me, and any - anyone !! - I do not experience or mean anything else (I am always only a convinced and unconditional internationalist).
          Do not suspect in vain (do not be a child, by golly!) ... And never leave the house without taking a little sense of humor with you (and, yes: it can be different, you are right in this unconditionally!) ...
          1. +2
            27 September 2014 14: 27
            Quote: Signatur
            Mr Egor65G (or maybe Aaron Zawi?)

            Nothing offensive or evil to the Jewish people (as, by the way, believe me, and any - anyone !! - I do not experience or mean anything else (I am always only a convinced and unconditional internationalist).
            Do not suspect in vain (do not be a child, by golly!) ... And never leave the house without taking a little sense of humor with you (and, yes: it can be different, you are right in this unconditionally!) ...

            Eeee, what are you talking about? belay
            1. +2
              27 September 2014 14: 33
              Looks messed up sites laughing
              1. Signature
                +1
                27 September 2014 14: 39
                If the minus is not from J. Psaki, not from Hamas (or directly Abbas), then who else remains (ready to minus) on this site and on this topic? request
                Unless the Breakfast of the Tourist ...
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                  0
                  27 September 2014 15: 15
                  Hm, gentlemen Egor65G and Aron ZawiYour ignorance seems to me genuine and sincere.
                  Since my apologies were brought to you (and you) in advance, I’ll only add that now they can’t be wasted, and they have come -
                  at the present moment - very handy. Do not exact (if that is not so)!

                  Consequently, enemies and ill-wishers omitted (and defamed) (I grow, however, above myself: there are more and more enemies, I can’t even remember who personally crystallized and under what circumstances).

                  But I don’t need a free plus either: someone, urgently take your charity present back!

                  And I put Mr. Egor65G and Mr. Aron Zaavi on the "plus": I do not like it when the minuses offend.
                2. Past_ Crocodile
                  +3
                  27 September 2014 15: 51
                  You forgot about me ...
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                    +2
                    27 September 2014 15: 58
                    This minute, it has already been fixed: get your plus (but if the minus is yours, then you, please, deeply and falsely repent!).
                    1. Past_ Crocodile
                      +2
                      27 September 2014 18: 51
                      I compared you with other opponents and already repent.
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                        0
                        28 September 2014 06: 51
                        love Forgiven and instantly (no doubt, procrastination and internal approvals) entered in the register of FAVORITES! love
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              2. +2
                27 September 2014 19: 33
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Eeee, what are you talking about?


                Quote: Egor65G
                Looks messed up sites


                Yes, not ... men! lol Here the reception is quite simple laughing Like from a distant Soviet childhood: "You are silent in f ... you stick out, responded in f ... f stayed!" fellow
                1. Signature
                  +1
                  28 September 2014 06: 58
                  love HUMAN THANKS for protection, noble hidalgo, but I ask you not to protect me (it is more interesting, you know, to personally suffer and - how is it there? - "drink the cup to the bottom"(artificial and speculative auto-stimulation of the desire to" live on ": however, you and without self-revealing confessions - I have no doubt - guess everything three steps ahead?! ..). love

                  Loyalty response demonstrations CATEGORALLY not waiting! stop
    26. +3
      27 September 2014 12: 05
      Great photo! wassat Abbas focus lost! good
    27. +6
      27 September 2014 13: 31
      This is all a performance where the roles are planned in advance. Abbas knows full well that the day after the last Israeli soldier leaves the West Bank, "friends" from Hamas will throw him off the roof and then drag the body behind the car to the hooting of the crowd, as was the case in Gaza. "The end of the occupation" - the end of Fatah and Mahmoud Abbas.
      1. Past_ Crocodile
        +1
        27 September 2014 16: 01
        It is a pity that I am far, I will not see. I envy those sitting in the front rows.
    28. 0
      27 September 2014 13: 49
      an ethnic state will never win the first world second world example. This is so for Israel and their protégé, Ukraine.
      1. +3
        27 September 2014 14: 30
        Quote: bmv04636
        an ethnic state will never win the first world second world example. This is so for Israel and their protégé, Ukraine.

        Israel in which the Arabic-speaking population of 20%, it is difficult to call ethnic. This is not Poland or the Czech Republic. And then as far as I am torn in our situation, it is the Arabs who are building something monolithic.
        1. +1
          27 September 2014 18: 34
          The man who unites the fraternal peoples of Palestine and Israel was not found, otherwise these two peoples will sink into oblivion
      2. 0
        27 September 2014 14: 34
        Quote: bmv04636
        This is so for Israel and their protégé, Ukraine.
        What did you mean?
      3. Past_ Crocodile
        +2
        27 September 2014 14: 55
        You are very right. Therefore, Arab fascism without an account lost you know who.
        1. 0
          27 September 2014 15: 24
          Quote: Past_ Crocodile
          Arab fascism without an account lost you know who.

          Templar?
          So and so it is in the second half of the "first half" (1096-1149) and most of the "second" (1189-1271).
          Then they began to give the initiative.

          Since the 60s of the last century, he began to lose to Israeli fascism. But now the "game" is going on in equal fight ...
          There is also an overseas “referee” planning extra time.

          Threat. The coaches didn’t make all the replacements either ...
          1. +1
            27 September 2014 15: 30
            Quote: Ptah
            Since the 60s, he began to lose to Israeli fascism.
            You would hold your tongue. Not quite clear your juggling terms. Or do not always understand the meaning of the words used?
            1. +1
              27 September 2014 16: 13
              Whoa! Well, probably I will decide to ask forgiveness from such a sensitive "Kyrgyz" and who joined him comrade Shepilova "past the crocodile".
              I wanted to say that "fascism" cannot be Israeli.
              German, Russian, Ukrainian ... Anyone, but not Jewish ...

              This is not Gene. The United Nations Assembly ranked Israel with apartheid states and ruled that Zionism is a form of racism and racial discrimination.
              But this is not Fascism? Is it something like the smell of lilies of the valley in the midst of a dunghill?

              Since then, they have corrected themselves so much that they can bomb neighboring states at their request. Moreover, they do not even have to declare war.
              But after all, the Hitler fascists implied by us ANNOUNCED THE WAR ...
              But there are no Jews - that means they are not fascists. What time! So okay?

              And kill already "not your" and certainly not mine, but trained "by-crocodile". Let it not stick. He is not interesting to me ...
              1. +2
                27 September 2014 16: 20
                Quote: Ptah
                And kill your already trained "by-crocodile". Let it not stick. He is not interesting to me ...
                -do not understand??? What kind of 3.14 darling manners ??? And why mine?
                And for the resolution (long canceled), do not bother to voice here, https://www.izakayasushilounge.comwho voted behind acceptance of onna, and who против.
                1. -1
                  27 September 2014 16: 27
                  Quote: Egor65G
                  here on the site, who voted for the adoption of the one, and who is against.

                  This is for admins and programmers.
                  I have neither authority, nor ability, nor even desire to organize voting on the site.
                  It is not entirely clear your juggling in terms.

                  Of course not entirely clear. It does not bring "profit" to the Jews.
                  Here they are juggling, for example: ANTI SEMITISM - wow, this is kosher!
                  What is it?
                  1. +1
                    27 September 2014 16: 41
                    Quote: Ptah
                    This is for admins and programmers.

                    So it was not necessary to crow not in the case. It used to be you with the CPPSohm could fool people with the newspaper "Krivda" and "Izvestia" wassat And the Islamists vparival everyone the most peaceful religions yeah laughing
                    About the rest I did not understand at all, some kind of baby talk.
              2. Past_ Crocodile
                +1
                27 September 2014 16: 28
                Actually, you were the first to open your mouth in my direction.
                You and your opinion are absolutely galactically dick to me.
          2. Past_ Crocodile
            +3
            27 September 2014 15: 48
            Actually, fascism is
            A) Xenophobia. There are Arabs in Israel, there are no Jews in the Arab countries.
            B) Uneducation and contempt for education. Israel has made a significant contribution to medicine, cybernetics, genetics. Arabs teach the verses of the Qur'an ...
            C) The obsession with conspiracy theories, the cultivation of the feeling of being under siege. Supporters of the Arabs everywhere see the hand of Mossad.
            By all indications, Israel, unlike the Arabs, cannot be ranked as fascism. They do not stone people in it, do not poison the population with sarin, do not restrict freedom of religion
          3. +3
            27 September 2014 16: 08
            Quote: Ptah
            Since the 60s of the last century, he began to lose to Israeli fascism. But now the "game" is going on in equal fight ...
            There is also an overseas “referee” planning extra time.
            Threat. The coaches didn’t make all the replacements either ...

            Well, from a representative of German Nazism to hear the accusation of Jews of fascism is not even very offensive. We will never reach your level of hatred.
            1. 0
              27 September 2014 16: 14
              I did not expect from you (the old Zionist) such accusations against someone else.
              ZIONISM = NAZISM
              Do you want to drop the film, how did German Jews help Hitler?
              1. +5
                27 September 2014 16: 28
                Quote: quilted jacket
                I did not expect from you (the old Zionist) such accusations against someone else.
                ZIONISM = NAZISM
                Do you want to drop the film, how did German Jews help Hitler?

                For you, maybe .. And for sane people, Zionism is a national liberation movement of the Jewish people. As for the film, then only if it is not from the Soviet agitprop.
                1. -1
                  27 September 2014 16: 41
                  Bravo, Aron! We listened to a new interpretation, but our own. "Yegorke Sixty-fifth" may not like this. He is accustomed to operating with official ones. As in pedovikia -
                  Zionism (Hebrew צִיּוֹנוּת, otsionut - from the name of Mount Zion in Jerusalem) is a political movement whose goal is to unite and revive the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel (Eretz Israel), as well as the ideological concept on which this movement is based.

                  The ideology of Zionism unites movements of different orientations - from left-socialist to orthodox-religious. Before World War II, Zionism was one of the largest socio-political movements of the Jewish people (along with the Bund working movement for cultural autonomy and territorialism). After World War II, it became the only Jewish nationalism movement.

                  So is Jewish nationalism? And he is not banned, such as Russian? And how many steps from nationalism to fascism?

                  Threat. And in Germany today they condemned the recently released humorous issue, where Russia and Putin’s policies were subtly ridiculed. (laid out here).
                  They reacted very negatively to the appearance in the frame for 4 seconds. swastikas and "SS" on ukrovoyak helmets.
                  And to give you links to Israeli sites, where the Germans are very unintelligible about the same thing. But this does not cause dissatisfaction ....
                  1. +6
                    27 September 2014 17: 09
                    Quote: Ptah
                    And he is not banned, such as Russian? And how many steps from nationalism to fascism?
                    ]
                    You are joking? When was Russian nationalism banned? On the contrary, it is the basis of the modern ideology of Russia. Just like Zionism, he is wise and teaches that you need to love your people and your country, and not hate strangers. In principle, this only speaks of his growing up. No wonder the adherents of Russian nationalism so sharply oppose the Russian Natsik.

                    Threat. And in Germany today they condemned the recently released humorous issue, where Russia and Putin’s policies were subtly ridiculed. (laid out here).
                    They reacted very negatively to the appearance in the frame for 4 seconds. swastikas and "SS" on ukrovoyak helmets.
                    And to give you links to Israeli sites, where the Germans are very unintelligible about the same thing. But this does not cause dissatisfaction ....

                    No sites needed. wink And then, as a user of our forum, you read it, it feels like you got to the meeting of the "Black Hundred", but in life they are probably quite adequate people.
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                      27 September 2014 19: 03
                      Aron, I would not say that Russian nationalism is the basis of our state ideology. The authorities simply understand that after the Czechs everyone will want subsidies from "Allah". Understanding comes, but alas, slowly.
                2. +1
                  27 September 2014 16: 43
                  Just neighing smile
                  The exact same words were spoken by the Nazis in Germany.
                  The fact that they want to unite the German people and throw off the shackles of the infamous Versailles peace, to object to the country.
                  The film is Russian, but only in PM. The format of this forum does not allow, it is possible to post it here.
                  1. +1
                    27 September 2014 16: 54
                    Quote: quilted jacket
                    to cast off the shackles of the infamous Versailles peace

                    They did not want the "Weimar Republic" which would inevitably lead to a civil war like in Russia.
                    For starters, you can look for answers about the causes of the war here. There, though murky, but the prerequisites are indicated.

                    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Соглашение_Хаавара
    29. 0
      27 September 2014 15: 57
      Psaki needs to be invited to work by her first deputy Zadornov so that she can write texts with him already a lot of material is prepared for her and most importantly then she will not have to strain her brain at all!
    30. +4
      27 September 2014 16: 06
      A few excerpts from the Israeli press following the aggression against Gaza:
      The army began an investigation into the deaths of children in Gaza
      A special group of the military prosecutor's office will investigate the deaths of civilians in Gaza during Operation Unbreakable Rock.
      These are 55 incidents that the group will consider in the coming weeks.
      http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti/2014/09/10/armiya-nachala-rassledovanie-gib
      eli-detey-v-gaze /
      Let me remind you that Israel killed more than 500 children in Gaza.
      Military costs will be covered by schools, roads and pensions
      At Sunday's meeting, the government will consider a 2% government budget reduction program to offset the costs of Operation Unbreakable Rock. According to data released by the Israeli media, education and transport infrastructures will suffer the most. According to Walla, the budget for primary and secondary education will lose 480 million shekels, while universities will receive less than 175 million shekels. The budget for projects to expand transport infrastructures will be reduced by 243 million shekels. Pensions and various compensations will be reduced by 76 million. Local authorities will lose 69 million. The healthcare budget will lose 43 million shekels. Almost all ministries will suffer, except for the defense.
      http://news.israelinfo.co.il/economy/52937
      How could the IDF spend 9 billion on the war with Hamas?
      After Operation Enduring Rock, the Department of Defense requested the Ministry of Finance an additional 20 billion shekels - 9 billion to cover the extraordinary expenses associated with the military operation in the Gaza Strip, and 11 billion to strengthen defense capabilities next year.
      However, according to TheMarker, the Ministry of Finance does not believe that the IDF really spent 9 billion on war with the "small terrorist organization" - more than a third of the IDF’s total operating budget (minus salaries and pensions) for 2014. Financiers consider the bill presented by the army to be swollen and say that in reality the extraordinary expenses on “indestructible rock” amounted to no more than 4-5 billion shekels.
      http://news.israelinfo.co.il/economy/52946
      In short, they plundered and "sawed" the budget, that's why it was all started. laughing
      And then they shouted, we are fighting terrorism, OW TELLERS laughing laughing laughing
      1. +2
        27 September 2014 16: 36
        Quote: quilted jacket

        In short, they plundered and "sawed" the budget, that's why it was all started. laughing
        And then they shouted, we are fighting terrorism, OW TELLERS laughing laughing laughing

        You apparently Israel with your country beguiled request . Do you see if a minister or prime minister violates the law, they are put in jail, and they do not blindly shut their eyes to their abuse. And do not teach our Defense Ministry to bargain with the Ministry of Finance. They then know for sure that they will receive a maximum of 50% of the requested, so do not break our tradition. lol
        Well, as far as terror is concerned, as we can, we are fighting. By the way, the end of the 2014 of the year is coming soon, so you would have been engaged in the cutest non-BV Central Asia. From there, the threats are more real to you.
        1. +4
          27 September 2014 16: 55
          So I don’t teach anyone. These are excerpts from your press.
          You apparently Israel with your country beguiled

          It is not strange, many of our thieves now live quietly in Israel laughing
          What is TRADITION such lol
          By the way, I forget to ask how Polonsky received Israeli citizenship? smile
          so that you would be engaged in the cutest non-BV, Central Asia. From there, the threats are more real to you.

          And what terrorists from ISIS fostered by you, already in Central Asia ??
    31. +1
      27 September 2014 16: 16
      when two fight, there is always a third who will start working on Israel, then Israel will be removed in order to rally the Muslims and create a caliphate whose soldiers will lead the mullahs of the political forces as a war against everyone, along the way the next Holocaust [they will remove the Jews as an element of global governance, they are preparing to replace them with Scientologists and the like]
      1. 0
        27 September 2014 16: 18
        A will be removed as CUT?
        1. nvv
          nvv
          +3
          27 September 2014 16: 33
          Quote: quilted jacket
          A will be removed as CUT?

          Well, if the Holocaust, then they’ll cut it out. And whoever is smarter will dissolve among the people who sheltered them. Indeed, even now, attacks on Israel are an attempt to establish a Holocaust. The world behind the scenes does not need a prosperous Israel. It falls out of the Bible project.
          1. 0
            27 September 2014 16: 44
            The Holocaust is controversial, someone believes and someone does not.
            1. +1
              27 September 2014 16: 57
              they’ll take it away, it’s necessary to take it differently, they will make a revolution for their masters even though they don’t recognize themselves as an instrument of globalization and, moreover, they will light up painfully everywhere, the Moor has done his job, the Moor must leave
              1. 0
                27 September 2014 17: 12
                Quote: sovetskyturist
                they’ll take it away, it’s necessary to take it differently, they will make a revolution for their masters even though they don’t recognize themselves as an instrument of globalization and, moreover, they will light up painfully everywhere, the Moor has done his job, the Moor must leave

                Dreamer. lol
                1. nvv
                  nvv
                  +2
                  27 September 2014 17: 27
                  Aron, if you are not one of these, but of those who want to see a prosperous Israel, think about it.
                2. +2
                  27 September 2014 17: 32
                  to dream of millions of deaths is not even idiocy anymore, but a more serious disease - I do not need the deaths of either Jews or Arabs fool fool hi
                  1. +2
                    27 September 2014 17: 55
                    Quote: sovetskyturist
                    to dream of millions of deaths is not even idiocy anymore, but a more serious disease - I do not need the deaths of either Jews or Arabs fool fool hi

                    Well, I'm sorry, maybe I was wrong, but another conclusion from your posts is difficult to draw.
                    1. +1
                      27 September 2014 18: 13
                      hatred in response gives rise to hatred, probably everyone should carefully look for the source of hatred in the last place to analyze [holy letters and the so-called prophecies in the name of God]
                      1. +3
                        27 September 2014 18: 37
                        Quote: sovetskyturist
                        we must all carefully search for the source of hatred in the last place to analyze [holy letters and the so-called prophecies in the name of God]

                        Nothing is easier fellow Everything has long been found and "analyzed"
                        The Messenger of Allah said: “You are Muslims, you will fight with the Jews, and when any of them hide behind a stone, the stone will say: O servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!”
                        Sahih Bukhari, book of 52, hadith of 176, narrated by Abdul bin Umar
                        1. +1
                          27 September 2014 18: 51
                          studied their [holy scriptures] or only the Koran, that is, we are furry, and they are bad
                        2. +1
                          27 September 2014 19: 02
                          it is necessary to fight against human ignorance, not all sorts of nonsense are worthy of attention, the Arabs, too, like you [and us ..] need to be more attentive to all sayings, a lot of things can be written
                3. +1
                  27 September 2014 17: 41
                  what prevents you from living peacefully except the instructions of the political leaders of the mullahs and rabbis who give their satanic nonsense to the word of God and claim to be truth and mediation between people and God, but to see the sheep are worthy of their shepherds
                  1. +2
                    27 September 2014 18: 02
                    Quote: sovetskyturist
                    what prevents you from living peacefully together except as the instructions of the mullahs political leaders.

                    Absolutely nothing, not even rabbis (Israel is a secular state).
                    This is a ONE-SIDE religious conflict. It is not subject to completion by "traditional" methods.
                    1. +1
                      27 September 2014 18: 27
                      think who benefits from the next massacre, analyze the facts who made money in the 1st and 2nd world wars [there is always more than a king behind each throne, said like Jefferson] theories about evil stolen, damned mos .. and wives ... leave the nations alone act as objects of management but who is the subject of the manager to those who really pull the threads
            2. nvv
              nvv
              +1
              27 September 2014 17: 21
              Well, the Holocaust, not the Holocaust, may have been inflated from this. And the word mayhem, you won’t deny it?
              1. +6
                27 September 2014 17: 32
                Quote: nvv
                Well, the Holocaust, not the Holocaust, may have been inflated from this. And the word mayhem, you won’t deny it?

                So we had everything and the Holocaust and Pogroms and Khmelnitsky, only then we did not have the State of Israel, AOI and Dimona. And so dream yourself in impotent rage. Who is interfering.
                1. nvv
                  nvv
                  +4
                  27 September 2014 17: 44
                  Aron, I'm Russian, and that means, I'm not an evil person
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  And so dream yourself in impotent rage
                2. +1
                  27 September 2014 18: 00
                  I repeat the case is not in the city of Israel pogroms and the Holocaust control and their purpose is Jewishness itself, the creation of the state of Israel, an attempt to leave the Jews alone, but they used it as a factor of pressure on Muslims and to control BV and oil at this stage, Israel prevents the creation of the caliphate, the continent will be controlled with the help of the Islamists [that is, the Holocaust will be organized]. someone will survive, and someone will again fall into the furnace of the ideals of building a new world — everything depends on you again. TO BE OR NOT TO BE GLOBALIZATION BRANCH AND PUPPET OCCULTISTS YOU DECIDE hi
          2. +1
            27 September 2014 16: 49
            Greetings, Vit!
            Quote: nvv
            And who is smarter than he will dissolve among the people who sheltered them.

            When God wants to punish the Jews, he sends them a "Holocaust".
            When God wants to punish other nations, He settles Jews among them.

            Who will continue the thought further?
            I must leave your dear cumpania. Don't let Yegorka get bored with Vatnik ...
            1. 0
              27 September 2014 17: 03
              Do not leave Ptah, otherwise I was just about to go out.
              Especially Yegor in my emergency, because dirty swears smile
            2. +1
              27 September 2014 17: 05
              puppeteers themselves cultivate anti-Semitism so that their offspring does not dissolve in ruled nations, Jews are instilled with God's chosenness and exclusivity trying to form an administrative class for the crowd from this material, when specialists of a different class do the work
            3. nvv
              nvv
              0
              27 September 2014 17: 08
              Quote: Ptah
              When God wants to punish the Jews, he sends them a "Holocaust".
              When God wants to punish other nations, He settles Jews among them.

              Vadim, I said this in terms of workers and peasants, and you in terms of .... clever, or something. Well, I don’t know what to call it.
            4. +1
              27 September 2014 17: 08
              Ha ha ha Can’t you rush for new instructions, eh?
              So, how can you prove and explain something — it’s not possible — your brains are ossified. As the general line orders, so you spar smile It is told you-religion-opium for the people-you and cut all the priests with a hoot with a whoosh. It is said-hang-up, you quickly learned to be baptized, chains on your neck pulled on-and forth, to the church smile Clowns
              A padded jacket-mahmudke-hello, hot and fat! Cho is he still offended by me? Again, every nonsense is posting, sick, maybe me from an hour cross out?
              1. nvv
                nvv
                +3
                27 September 2014 17: 38
                I feel sorry for you, a Jew. I tried to warn you that it threatens you. Pity, this is probably a feature of a Russian person. If I do not understand, I can’t put my own head in you.
                1. +3
                  27 September 2014 18: 12
                  Quote: nvv
                  I feel sorry for you, a Jew. I tried to warn you that it threatens you. Pity, this is probably a feature of a Russian person. If I do not understand, I can’t put my own head in you.

                  Ugh damn it, why did you get into this conversation "about anything"? sad
                  I got caught because of "Ptah" and his anti-Semitic views. (this one is just glad to get people into srach with the Jews) request
                  (sovetskyturist in general sorts out inadequate nonsense, well, at least Martians did not fit into the big picture) fool
                  And now you won't get a normal reaction from ours, precisely because you ended up in the same group with "Ptah", "quilted jacket" and this ... with a furious nickname on transliteration. request
                  Leave it, in such a "company" serious topics are not discussed - because of them, you automatically get a prejudiced attitude. stop
                  1. nvv
                    nvv
                    +3
                    27 September 2014 19: 26
                    S.A.M. We must have established a telepathic attitude. In the middle of the night, I woke up and got into my computer sleepy. Now wait, I'll digest ... At the expense of Ptah, as I understand it, he is an anti-Semite, but not an anti-Jew, me too. As for a Soviet tourist, he is not talking nonsense about Martians, he has an understanding of the process. Everything that I wrote on this thread, I am from the bottom of my heart. San, watch at least Petrov's introductory lectures and you will open your eyes to everything that happens. "Nobody but us" remember? This srach will not stop on these branches. By the way, General Petrov, this is my handbook. Well, if you think it's from the Martians ...
                    1. +1
                      27 September 2014 19: 59
                      Quote: nvv
                      Sanya, look at least the introductory lectures of Petrov and your eyes will open on everything that happens.

                      He looked, does not inspire, I have a biased attitude towards conspiracy theology.

                      1. I am a supremacist of Occam's Razor. Why complicate things that can be easily explained? There is an essence in each phenomenon, the rest is attracted by the ears in the interests of one side or another, but does not reflect the essence.

                      2. Control over global processes is not accessible to anyone for purely technical reasons. Murphy's Law - if something can go wrong, then it will be so.

                      3. To justify the conspiracy theories - the whole world should consist exclusively of dumbasses, except for the conspirators themselves.

                      4. Any (inevitable) power struggle to conspiracy circles will lead to the collapse of their system, only an open system supported by the population is viable. A statistically similar system has been unviable for more than a decade.

                      Better get as a reference book:
                      1. The basics of sociology.
                      2. System analysis.
                      3. The construction of logical chains.
                      3. The basics of philosophy.

                      This will really make you see so much that you’re awesome. The brain should work independently, based on its own LOGIC conclusions, and not someone else's opinion. (the wisest of Judaism - DO NOT MAKE YOURSELF AN IDOL)

                      The irony is that the DISSEMINERS of conspiracy theological ideas themselves are just trying to become puppeteers, under the pretext of replacing themselves with a fictitious mythical enemy.

                      Py.Sy - I'm not Sanya. hi
                      1. nvv
                        nvv
                        +2
                        27 September 2014 20: 08
                        Quote: And Us Rat
                        consist entirely of dumbasses

                        Sanya, I’m probably a dumbass, I went to sleep. The conversation didn’t work. I can’t insert an emoticon. I take off my hat. Py. Sy - I’m not Sanya. Well, S.A.M.
                        1. +2
                          27 September 2014 20: 19
                          Quote: nvv
                          Quote: And Us Rat
                          consist entirely of dumbasses

                          Sanya, I’m probably a dumbass, I went to sleep. The conversation didn’t work. I can’t insert an emoticon. I take off my hat. Py. Sy - I’m not Sanya. Well, S.A.M.

                          No, you are far from dumb. laughing
                          Re-read my com once again when you get enough sleep. hi
                        2. nvv
                          nvv
                          +3
                          27 September 2014 20: 43
                          I just went to sleep. They brought firewood tomorrow, no, today they need to be chopped. You don’t understand this in your sunny Israel.
                        3. +1
                          27 September 2014 21: 09
                          Quote: nvv
                          I just went to sleep. They brought firewood tomorrow, no, today they need to be chopped. You don’t understand this in your sunny Israel.

                          You will be surprised, but I can chop wood wink An ordinary ax.
                          But I recommend a similar device:
                        4. nvv
                          nvv
                          +1
                          28 September 2014 05: 13
                          Quote: And Us Rat
                          Re-read my com once again when you get enough sleep

                          Hello SAM. I slept, read. Not only your comments, but the whole thread. When you read with a fresh mind, not individual comments, but delving into everything in a row, a picture emerges in my head. And this is what I have drawn. Opponents do not delve into the words of the enemy, I found a familiar word, I’ll push myself away from him and now the answer is ready. Not from the meaning of what was said, but from a familiar word. And they begin to poke a friend, warming up with minuses, for the amusement of members of the forum. I rarely go to such branches, I know in advance how it ends. This time I went in, saw the video of "Soviet tourist" and got stuck. You called him a Martian, which means I am a Martian. I understand the meaning of his words. We have the same base. the list of your recommendations on how to look at the world, I'm afraid that this is not acceptable for me. There may be fear of losing the ground under my feet, although I feel that I am standing firmly. Or it may be just banal laziness.
                        5. +1
                          28 September 2014 09: 46
                          Quote: nvv
                          Regarding the list of your recommendations on how to look at the world, I’m afraid that this is not acceptable for me. There may be a fear, losing ground, although I feel that I am standing firmly. And it can be just banal laziness.


                          In other words, is stability more important than truth? belay

                          But then your position cannot even claim a quote; I’m not talking about a dispute. request

                          Any fact / argument must pass a test for refutable / non-refutable. In case of refusal, it is no longer a matter of facts, but of faith, religion. stop

                          Likewise, deeply religious people refuse to discuss what might shake their faith, because deep down they know that it will be so! sad (only stupid ones become fanatics).

                          Let me remind you - that anti-Semitism / Nazism / fascism is also a groundless "religion" (I already told you that), because they do not stand the test of facts and logic, and therefore there are two types:
                          1. Management (for smart) who know what bullshit, but use for their own purposes.
                          2. Slave (for stupid) who holy and blindly believe, because there is not enough logical analysis of their brains.

                          Eternal problem - "Bitter truth or sweet lie"
                          I don’t understand this, I’m not able to live in lies, for the sake of inner comfort - it’s like pretending that you don’t notice how my wife runs to the left. No.
                        6. nvv
                          nvv
                          +1
                          28 September 2014 10: 18
                          Quote: And Us Rat
                          In other words, is stability more important than truth?

                          But then your position cannot even claim a quote; I’m not talking about a dispute.

                          Hi, SAM. You see, you grabbed precisely these words. I felt weakness and hit. This is not weakness, it’s temporary fatigue. And tiredness from not understanding my position. When I talk to the Martian, as you called him, a secular tourist, we understand each other perfectly. although our presentation is different. There is only one foundation. I read VO for a year, there was a lot of informative things. I registered and was horrified at how much malice there is in misunderstanding and outright vulgarity.
                        7. +1
                          28 September 2014 13: 50
                          Quote: nvv
                          Hi, SAM. You see, you grabbed precisely these words. I felt the slack and hit.


                          Logic is not my invention, and I didn’t "hit" but drew attention to the structural vulnerability. But this is how logical thinking works in search of reliable data.

                          Quote: nvv
                          This is not weakness, this is temporary fatigue. And tiredness from not understanding my position.


                          Or maybe tired of the fact that it is difficult for you to substantiate your position logically? More precisely frustration, not fatigue? So I’m talking about this - put your position on the shelves, analyze each factor separately, and everything will fall into place. There can be only two results:

                          Option 1... You will find factual and indisputable substantiation of your position, and it will cease to burden you, since it will be easily provable. (Note that I often get minuses instead of an answer from opponents - because they have nothing to argue with my arguments, although they are in their tracks. I destroy their "castles in the air" and they are angry with me, they do not like the truth.)

                          Option 2. You will find a refutation of your position during the analysis. Yes, it can be unpleasant, but generally useful. Who owns reliable information - owns the world. Based on reliable facts (and not on unverified theories) in your actions and endeavors, you inevitably come to success. This is the law of physics.

                          Quote: nvv
                          When I talk with the Martian, as you called him, a secular tourist, we understand each other perfectly, although the manner of presentation is different for us. There is one foundation.


                          Excuse me, of course, for the comparison, but fanatical shahids also have "one foundation", but this does not make it true.

                          Quote: nvv
                          I read VO for a year, there was a lot of informative things. I registered and was horrified at how much malice there is in misunderstanding and outright vulgarity.


                          Such is human nature, this is a regrettable fact, getting rid of direct responsibility liberates the very animal and bestial in man. The whole complex of "kind and civilized" behavior is based on responsibility to society, or, more simply, on the instinct of self-preservation.
                          Only by willpower and intellect (understanding) can the inner beast be curbed (for the weak in mind, this work is done by religion). And weak-willed intellectuals are the backbone of evil, all their potential goes to indulge the "beast", and it is even difficult to blame them for this - they were born like that (to shoot, perhaps, or isolate from society).
                          (I recommend: Freud - themes: Eid, Ego, Super-ego)
                          hi
                        8. nvv
                          nvv
                          +1
                          28 September 2014 14: 46
                          It will probably be difficult for us to find a common language of understanding. I’m a techie, you’re from another opera. As I understand it, you live all of the above. Probably the conversation will not work. I could still argue about Freud, but only with the help of the video. The owners of the site understood this and I was hobbled. So this is not available to me. I was glad to talk. Bye.
                        9. +1
                          28 September 2014 16: 16
                          Quote: nvv
                          It will probably be difficult for us to find a common language of understanding. I’m a techie, you’re from another opera. As I understand it, you live all of the above. Probably the conversation will not work. I could still argue about Freud, but only with the help of the video. The owners of the site understood this and I was hobbled. So this is not available to me. I was glad to talk. Bye.

                          I’m also a techie (builder, therefore I prefer logic), I just don’t limit myself to this and always strive for more. Yes, it’s difficult, but who said that living is easy? fellow

                          If anything, you know where to look for me. hi

                          (Reality is more fascinating than all the "theories" put together)
                        10. nvv
                          nvv
                          +1
                          28 September 2014 16: 23
                          Myself, I understand. Until. I do not say goodbye. But you are not only a techie ......
                        11. nvv
                          nvv
                          +1
                          28 September 2014 16: 35
                          I didn’t manage to finish it, you’re better at being a techie. I’m reading with pleasure. And there’s nothing to add hi Wow, the emoticon came out!
                2. +1
                  27 September 2014 18: 43
                  a horse can be brought to water, but impossible to make drink
                3. +1
                  27 September 2014 19: 03
                  Oh thank you kind Russian man, leave your head to yourself smile you will put food in it. That's just there is not a big problem, I'm not a Jew, what are we going to do? And what do you propose that our wars end.
                  1. nvv
                    nvv
                    +2
                    27 September 2014 19: 36
                    Are we fighting with you? I am a peaceful person .... But my armored train .....
                    1. 0
                      27 September 2014 21: 01
                      I had in mind our wars with the Alahbabahini.
                      1. +2
                        27 September 2014 23: 06
                        radicals Muslims of this field of berries with exclusively God-chosen and similar Trotskyite revolutionaries, one candy and packages are different and the goal is the same, only the tool is different
                        1. 0
                          27 September 2014 23: 21
                          I agree. I’ll say more, change to sweets wrappers — no one will notice — the same disgusting taste. The whole difference between bahany and pei-atami-the first like to explode in crowded places.
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                    1. -2
                      27 September 2014 21: 32
                      You, dearly dear, are somehow having a strange conversation. What a peremptory tone, what an old party show off. Would you send me somewhere? Bgggg ... And I notice your penchant for the anal topic, aren't you passive? And your attitude to the topic of the article has long been clear to me. So do not bother with explanations.
                    2. +1
                      27 September 2014 22: 32
                      / Ptah /
                      quote: "Continue to tear * opa in front of the Jews"

                      laughing good you can’t say better! this also applies to the crocodile, too, tears it before the Jews.
                      1. Stypor23
                        +3
                        27 September 2014 22: 56
                        prishelec. Ptah is such a kazamet, as the mascara will say light. I myself am a bastard with him. laughing good wink
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              2. Past_ Crocodile
                +1
                27 September 2014 19: 14
                Not all of us are, Egor drinks
                So, a quilted jacket is not a quilted jacket at all, but an artiodactyl lover?
                Curious. That's what I caused such hostility in them hi
                1. +1
                  27 September 2014 20: 27
                  Yes, I know, probably the vast majority of Russians are normal people. And the quilted jacket is yes-natural mahmud from the pro-Iranian salaries. I have it once in Arabic sipped- I immediately got into the emergency and cries, poor thing, that I am a rude-tongue means she knows. Well, the feathered-from the same garbage-cock is the cock.
                  1. Past_ Crocodile
                    0
                    27 September 2014 20: 41
                    He complains to Ptuha that you are cursing. bully
                    1. +1
                      27 September 2014 21: 14
                      Quote: Past_ Crocodile
                      He complains to Ptuha that you are cursing. bully

                      Let both apstena be killed! laughing
                    2. +3
                      27 September 2014 23: 42
                      Do not be afraid. Dry your epic crocodile tears.
                      I don’t show it to alligators for “stolen sun” in some shaggy years.
                      Moreover, the sun, ultimately, was returned to the horizon. Not one reptile (and you have a faithful nickname, damn it) almost did not suffer, apart from the torn high ...
                      But the Jews have a strong maxillofacial plastic surgery and the fifth row of tusks was restored with the same curvature.
                      Everyone is happy. Happy end. Send the credits ...
                  2. +1
                    27 September 2014 21: 15
                    Quote: Egor65G
                    Well, the feathered-from the same garbage-cock is the cock.

                    Rather, a chicken. laughing
                  3. +1
                    27 September 2014 22: 42
                    / Egor65G /

                    The padded jacket is fair, it says everything is always right, everything is as it is and says it, should at least someone not call a spade a spade, thank him for that! But to the roosters can be attributed just you with a crocodile hi
                    1. 0
                      27 September 2014 22: 47
                      In business, a respected site begins to sink imperceptibly recourse Where did you come up with 3.14doors worried about?
                      1. -1
                        27 September 2014 23: 19
                        / Egor65G /
                        We from Russia will know this country is so big, but here you are, sometimes it seems to me that you and the Israeli flag on this site are more than the Russians themselves bully
                        1. 0
                          27 September 2014 23: 40
                          Yes, I'm not talking about Russians, but about ass-anxious ones like you smile Re-read your comments.
            5. +3
              27 September 2014 17: 19
              Quote: Ptah

              When God wants to punish the Jews, he sends them a "Holocaust".
              When God wants to punish other nations, He settles Jews among them.
              ...

              Well, the number of Jews in the Russian Federation decreased by five times, and as the elderly die out and children assimilate from mixed marriages, it comes to the point that in 20 years they will practically disappear in the Russian Federation, so what? Here in the regions of the North Caucasus or the Far East there are only a few Jews, and where is the dawn? But in the USA and Canada, they do not interfere.
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              2. +3
                27 September 2014 22: 14
                Don't worry about us, Aaron. It suits us so well. You too. Correctly noted "Vatnik" - noticed - "when a certain critical mass begins to exceed reasonable limits, destruction begins ..."
                Then, respectively, rejection. We and you call it differently - pogrom, Pale of Settlement, Holocaust, etc. the essence is the same - the reduction of Jews in their VISIBLE PART. On a separate territory. After all, the same bitten Black Hundreds did not call for "gazzavat" all over the world.
                Therefore, I will call myself ZIONIST. With the wording that I brought.
                Yesterday we remembered your relatives. Are they oppressed? Did they live better or worse than Russians or Kalmyks in those places?
                But in 17, a muddy stream of Jews poured into our COMMON homeland in a "sealed carriage". And then everyone immediately felt bad. Diluted (Stalin's "repressions") "Kagtavy" - again normal. The Jews were needed in the BV to serve the amerskoy naval base - the turmoil with "anti-Semitism" began in the USSR. Were you oppressed in the USSR?
                No??? What then flooded into the "sandbox"? You are not Polonsky or the killer Shlyafman ... And now you are ashamed and painful to admit that you were pushed there not from Russian nationalism (and today we have already found out, in your words, that he also has a right to exist) but looking for freebies and 100500 varieties of sausages. I did it too, but was always sure I would come back ...
                You are not a "burnt" person and you understand that YOU repatriated because all other Jews in Europe and America could not be driven out. The standard of living in their habitats was still higher than the "hysterical" one. Even now you cannot expel them. Even if they are wearing yarmulkes, they will not be led to songs about "self-determination" and the difficulties of their peers. So you have to protect this orange beach from arabia.
                We are not against it either.

                I (and my family) have already transferred a lot of money to Novorossiya and through the Banshee, incl. due to the fact that I know - people there defend their LAND.
                Frankly, Aaron! In principle, I have nothing reprehensible to help you against dolbomuli. But I'm not sure that at one "perfect" moment (in the sense that the nuclear mushroom is also beautiful in its own way) you will not raise the sails again and will not create the situation with which we started ... request hi

                Threat. I find out who without justification I stuck my pitiful "minus sign" and interfered with a serious conversation with my respected Aaron - I will mix with * ram. So that it doesn't cost me.
                All sorts of "eurokirgohorki". They turned, bent down ...
                Pshli squatted ...
                And with a boot like that in a goose - BA-BAAAH ...
                1. 0
                  27 September 2014 22: 23
                  Quote: Ptah
                  Shl. And I find out who, without justification, stuck their pitiful "minus" and interfered with a serious conversation with my respected Aaron - I will mix with * ram. So that it doesn't cost me.
                  All sorts of "eurokirgohorki". They turned, bent down ...
                  Pshli squatted ...
                  And with a boot like that in a goose - BA-BAAAH ..


                  And so it should be ...
                  1. +1
                    27 September 2014 22: 39
                    Good night, Sasha!
                    I was right. I didn’t have to find out anything. He is also mentioned by me.
                    Why, bya, so bya ...
                    Clung like a "biscuit" to the sphincter. And constantly inclines to the topic about .... well, about this very. Here's another one about the same thing ("tilix."
                2. +3
                  28 September 2014 00: 48
                  Well, the conversation is serious. Then come on without stamps. Firstly, the February revolution was not carried out by Jews, but by the military-political elite of the Republic of Ingushetia. If they had not put pressure on the emperor, a rebellion or even an armed uprising in Petersburg would have been crushed in two weeks. Secondly, despite the fact that the Jews played a very active role in the VOR, they were not a driving force. It is enough to look at the composition of the Council of People's Commissars, which until the 1924 year had real power, including over the party. Yes, and in the Red Army, Jews were no more than 5%, and do not go to the masses after the Bolsheviks, they will never win the Civil War. Now about the critical mass. In the USA, for example, the Jews themselves make up those 2%, which they also made up in the Republic of Ingushetia or the USSR, and nothing. It is not noticeable that this would bother the Americans. Just when there are religious prejudices or the government wants to shift its inefficiency and ability to solve problems, the Jews were an excellent lightning rod. After all, I also read the Russian Internet, the fewer Jews in Russia, the more difficult it is to find an internal enemy, especially in provincial centers.
                  Now about repatriation. My youth was spanked by the "Memory" society in Volgograd. And I decided for myself that I personally do not want to live in a country where my fellow citizens consider it moral to offend the people who went through all the catastrophes and drilling of the 20th century together with the Russians. When I look at my son, I understand how much happier he is than me. If he has been practicing karate for 7 years, then not in order to defend himself, but he just loves to do it, if he is engaged in robotics, then not in order to go to university, but because he wants to do it at the IDF. He is his own among his own and his classmate is never your analogue, he will not shout "Zhid" to him.
                  And as for the rich countries you can’t replace :-)) Today, about 500tys lives in Israel. Jews repatriated from Western countries. And by the way, the fighters of the Jewish Legion, who entered the ranks of the British troops in 1918 in Jerusalem, were also mainly from the USA and Canada.
                  That something like this.
                  1. +1
                    28 September 2014 20: 56
                    Bullshit and propaganda.
                    And the fact that you left is HAPPINESS for our country and our people.
        2. +1
          27 September 2014 16: 51
          hands of this material [permanent revolutionaries] carry out globalization, and when they’re done, they’ll utilize the tool [the danger of new revolutions from these creations, plus Scientologists are more efficient managers and you can program as much as necessary], an example to Baron Rothschild Hitler apologized and compensated at the same time Jewish poor exterminated
          1. Past_ Crocodile
            +1
            27 September 2014 19: 28
            What is this, retro porn? Did you take part there?
            1. nvv
              nvv
              +2
              27 September 2014 20: 10
              Crocodile, go by, it’s too tough for you.
              Quote: Past_ Crocodile
              What is this, retro porn? Did you take part there?
              1. Past_ Crocodile
                +2
                27 September 2014 20: 19
                Well, you are a poppy lover, I myself choose where and when to go.
      2. nvv
        nvv
        0
        27 September 2014 16: 28
        Thank you, I didn’t have such a video.
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    33. Dart_Veyder
      +2
      27 September 2014 19: 28
      This is tin! I haven’t seen such nonsense for a long time, people, you need Orthodoxy.ru on the site (as an example, but certainly not IN).
      And on the topic, handsome Abbas! He killed the negotiations on an independent Palestine, a million with little Arabs can sleep peacefully, because bearded dudes with Kalash on the streets, shooting everyone in a row under the shouts of: `` Urge the Jews '' is somehow not cool, but for now you can not pay taxes, live and throwing boulders into trams, in general, everything is cool, and most importantly, protection from `` relatives '' is guaranteed!
    34. +2
      27 September 2014 19: 40
      Quote: vorobey
      Thanks to the translators, Jen Psaki doesn't seem so hopelessly stupid as she really is!

      That's right, thanks to some translators and the media, she seems dumber than babies in a manger.
    35. +3
      27 September 2014 20: 46
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Quote: Ptah

      When God wants to punish the Jews, he sends them a "Holocaust".
      When God wants to punish other nations, He settles Jews among them.
      ...

      Well, the number of Jews in the Russian Federation decreased by five times, and as the elderly die out and children assimilate from mixed marriages, it comes to the point that in 20 years they will practically disappear in the Russian Federation, so what? Here in the regions of the North Caucasus or the Far East there are only a few Jews, and where is the dawn? But in the USA and Canada, they do not interfere.


      Well, you see for yourself and confirmed laughing
      A critical mass of Jews had accumulated and began to gnaw and tear the USSR and the great country collapsed.
      After that, you left GLORY TO GOD, to your Israel, and the country gradually began to revive again.
      Although I am an atheist, I want to ask you not to come back- CHRIST FOR THE SAME.
      1. +2
        27 September 2014 21: 47
        Quote: quilted jacket

        A critical mass of Jews had accumulated and began to gnaw and tear the USSR and the great country collapsed.
        After that, you left GLORY TO GOD, to your Israel, and the country gradually began to revive again.
        Although I am an atheist, I want to ask you not to come back- CHRIST FOR THE SAME.

        Oh how? And what kind of leadership positions after the 1957 year did Jews occupy in the USSR? Well, in the party, the Council of Ministers, the army, the KGB? Maybe on the radio or tv? I just wonder what such special levers did Jews in the USSR have after Stalin's death? Here is one who, despite the generally undisguised love for Jews, with an unshakable hand, nominated those whom he considered suitable for the highest posts. But since the 1957 of the year, Jews were transferred to the second league, so please complain to other people who led the USSR at the All-Union, Republican and regional levels.
        1. Stypor23
          +1
          28 September 2014 00: 39
          There were a lot of your brother in television sets. Comedians, writers, creative intelligentsia, scientists in closed and open research institutes (the latter really benefited the country good ). This above the roof was enough. In short, the potential customers of Nativa. ATTENTION. THE FIRST JEWISH IN SPACE LAUNCHED THE USSR. hi Hooray comrades fellow.
          1. +2
            28 September 2014 01: 05
            Quote: Stypor23
            There were a lot of your brother in television sets. Comedians, writers, creative intelligentsia, scientists in closed and open research institutes (the latter really benefited the country good ). This above the roof was enough. In short, the potential customers of Nativa. ATTENTION. THE FIRST JEWISH IN SPACE LAUNCHED THE USSR. hi Hooray comrades fellow.

            There was enough in trade and in production, in music and on the screen, but they had the same attitude to the real levers of power as the hunting hunter in the taiga.
            1. Stypor23
              0
              28 September 2014 01: 40
              And Yura from the KGB, he is not a Jew. Professor Sokolov did not give a clear answer on this issue.
    36. +2
      27 September 2014 22: 55
      Well, for example, in the government:
      DYMSHITS Veniamin Emanuilovich
      • Head of the Department of Capital Construction of the State Planning Committee of the USSR - Minister of the USSR (June 1959 - April 1962).
      • First Deputy Chairman of the State Planning Commission of the USSR - Minister of the USSR (April - July 1962).
      • Deputy Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR (July 1962 - December 1985).
      • Chairman of the State Planning Commission of the USSR (July - November 1962).
      • Chairman of the Council of the National Economy of the USSR (November 1962 - October 1965).
      • Chairman of the State Committee of the Council of Ministers of the USSR for Logistics (October 1965 - June 1976).

      VOLODARSKY Lev Markovich (GOLDSTEIN Leiba Mordkovich)
      • Head of the Central Statistical Office at the Council of Ministers of the USSR, Central Statistical Office of the USSR (August 1975 - December 1985).

      KOTLYAR Nikolay Isaakovich
      • Minister of Fisheries of the USSR (January 1987 - November 1991).

      RAEVSKY Vladimir Abramovich
      • Acting Minister of Finance of the USSR (November 1991 - March 1992).
      1. +2
        27 September 2014 23: 11
        T / e, after a long search, could you find ONE Jew who held a responsible position at the All-Union level? Well, is it Comrade Dymshchits biting and tearing the USSR, or maybe Comrade Volodarsky tearing the USSR as head of the Central Statistical Bureau?
        1. +2
          27 September 2014 23: 18
          So there were more than a million of you and everyone (not all of course, there were decent people), to the extent of his strength and capabilities, gnawed and vomited smile
          Or do you want me to list you the whole million where they worked? belay
          1. +2
            28 September 2014 00: 58
            Quote: quilted jacket
            So there were more than a million of you and everyone (not all of course, there were decent people), to the extent of his strength and capabilities, gnawed and vomited smile
            Or do you want me to list you the whole million where they worked? belay

            Why a million. But since you are not the first to brandish this bogeyman, for the sake of interest, I looked through the lists of ministers of the USSR, lists of members of the Politburo, senior commandos of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff of the USSR, senior KGB officers from 1957 to 1985 and something among people who had real levers of governing the country, and even more so among those who adopted the strategy of political and economic development of the USSR, there are practically no Jews. Well, what will we do with this?
            1. +2
              28 September 2014 13: 20
              And that they need to be on the lists of "USSR ministers, members of the Politburo, senior officers of the USSR Ministry of Defense and General Staff, KGB leaders" to "tear and bite"?
              They didn’t like to work with their hands, and especially they didn’t know how, because they sat mostly in trade, officials in ministries, artists, where there was more money and food and other goods.
              And there are enough of those who will help such people even among the Russians, look how many people are "drooling" from the joy of touching "Western values".
              We have all seen this from the recent Peace March.
              In fact, on a march of traitors, I won’t specify who was in the forefront, I hope you yourself know.
        2. +4
          27 September 2014 23: 23
          You don’t know how to read, they were all almost in the government of the USSR.
          1. +1
            27 September 2014 23: 26
            And the fact that I answer for a long time - I'm sorry, today is Saturday and we have problems with the Internet (there are a lot of people on the network smile )
    37. +4
      27 September 2014 23: 10
      Well, you can still enjoy it. If you so wish.
      Photos of Russian Jews. Jews in government, on stage and on television.
      http://newrusproject.ru/notice.html?id=136&str=41
      1. +1
        28 September 2014 01: 00
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Well, you can still enjoy it. If you so wish.
        Photos of Russian Jews. Jews in government, on stage and on television.
        http://newrusproject.ru/notice.html?id=136&str=41

        Russian or Soviet?
        1. +1
          28 September 2014 13: 38
          So look at their age, many of them "worked" during the Soviet era.
          And such "friends" of the Russian people as Chubais, Gaidar, Nemtsov, Berezovsky, Gusinsky, etc. will remain in our heart forever. smile smile
          The 90s, the collapse of the USSR, will be forgotten only after many generations, if at all


          Russian President Vladimir Putin called the collapse of the Soviet Union "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe" 20th century. The President said this in his annual appeal to parliament, which was broadcast live on national television. According to the leader of the Russian people, the collapse of the USSR in 1991 was "real drama"which left tens of millions of Russians outside the country.
    38. +4
      28 September 2014 00: 50
      Such provocative statements are counterproductive, they also undermine efforts to create a favorable atmosphere and restore confidence between the parties.

      It is interesting to know: who trusted whom? hi

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