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Play by yourselfWhy there will be no lifting or easing of Western sanctions in the coming years

In recent days, the West has made several statements explaining what Russia should do in order to lift the sanctions imposed by Europe and the United States. More specifically, Barack Obama put it: if Russia changes course, sanctions will be lifted. It is clear that there can be no question of a change in the course of the speech - but is there any chance at all that the West will back down?

On Thursday, the G7 foreign ministers and the EU foreign policy commissioner stated that the sanctions are “not an end in themselves” and “can be curtailed as soon as Russia fulfills its ceasefire obligations and the Minsk agreements and will respect Ukraine’s sovereignty” - but “Otherwise, we are still ready to step up pressure on Russia for non-compliance”.

At the same time, the EU is trying to send signals that it is ready to begin a phased lifting of sanctions - a report on the implementation of agreements to resolve the conflict in Ukraine will be reviewed at a meeting of EU permanent representatives on Tuesday, after which Brussels may start the process of revising sanctions against Russia. Speaking about this, the European diplomatic source of TASS explained that there are two possible ways of abandoning them, "and both phased, the entire sanctions bloc does not deal with the abolition of the entire sanctions bloc": "the very discussion about the advisability of sanctions will begin in October," block sanctions "is unlikely to happen before November." At the same time, the source of the Financial Times in Brussels said that the refusal of sanctions next week is “extremely unlikely,” since the largest countries - in particular, Germany - “do not believe that the Kremlin has already done almost enough to give reason for such a decision” .

What are we dealing with? The threat to introduce new sanctions, as well as the promise to cancel those already in force, pursues one goal - Moscow must prove to the West that it is doing everything to ensure peace in Ukraine. Then the West will determine the necessary degree of encouragement. That is, it can cancel, and can tighten - depending on how Russia behaves. Although it would be more honest to say - on how the West regards our behavior. If it’s right, it will remove some of the sanctions; if it’s wrong, it will leave everything in place and even toughen it up. At the same time, the lifting of sanctions will not be just gradual - it will start from the very first, that is, the easiest. For example, a ban on entry for our officials and deputies will be abolished - as if this fundamentally changes something in a situation when it comes to a full-scale economic and propaganda cold war.

In essence, this is about the West’s so primitive attempt to get Russia to change our policy, which is even interesting - do they really believe that someone in Moscow will lead the game to “cancel - not cancel”? After all, it is absolutely clear that the sanctions will be strengthened or weakened on the basis of only one criterion - how it works for the environment and the weakening of Russia. No supporters of maintaining ties with Russia in the EU can now do nothing to actually lift the sanctions - because they do not determine the game.

There is only one scenario in which the pro-Atlantic forces in the EU would not have been able to prevent the lifting of the sanctions - if elections were organized in Kiev, the Kiev would regain control over the border with Russia throughout the whole territory of the DPR and the LPR, and the rebels laid down most of weapons and joined the ranks of the "people's militia". That is, Novorossia would simply have dissolved in the autumn gloom, while Russia would turn its back on it. Then Poroshenko would declare that the Minsk agreements are respected, Barack Obama would praise Russia for the right choice, and the sanctions would be lifted.

But there is no chance of implementing these points of the agreement, which means supporters of the blockade of Russia will always have reasons to accuse Putin of disrupting the Minsk agreements. And given that a unanimous decision is needed to lift the sanctions, a firm “no” from London or Warsaw will suffice, so that all the efforts of supporters of the preservation of European-Russian cooperation go to pieces.

Therefore, no one in the Russian government seriously considers not only the scenario of “lifting sanctions”, but even their “easing”. Everyone understands that in the near future the United States will have several reasons to justify the need not only to preserve, but also tighten the sanctions - and “convince” the EU. It is enough to consider the three most likely possibilities.

The first is the election of 2 in November by local authorities (parliament and heads of republics) to the DPR and the LPR and their refusal to elect by the Kiev legislation in December. It is an excellent reason to accuse Russia of “complicity to the separatists” and the intention to tear away a part of the territory of Ukraine - and, consequently, introduce new sanctions.

The second is problems with gas supplies to Europe. Ukraine refuses to pay for gas delivered before its supplies were cut off. In the next month or two, illegal selection may still intensify - and lead to the fact that Europe will begin to receive less serious volumes. And even the agreements reached on Friday between Ukraine and Russia on the gas problem are not yet a guarantee against such a turn of events - judging by how contradictory are the comments of Ukrainian officials on this matter. If Russia does not want to close its eyes and donate gas to Kiev for another billions of dollars, increasing supplies to Europe, it will be accused of starting a gas war with the EU. About this directly writes, for example, American Newsweek:

“Few people in the energy sector doubt that Ukrainians are taking away some of the gas destined for deliveries to Europe, and this is happening despite Russian protests about the illegal transfer of millions of dollars to the Ukrainian pipeline system. The use of such schemes makes Gazprom a hostage of not particularly scrupulous politicians in Kiev. As the temperature decreases, Ukraine may start pumping even more gas, thereby depriving Central Europe of supplies, but Gazprom will be blamed for this. ”

If desired, the United States and the atlantists in Europe will inflate a terrible scandal - scaring the Europeans with the Russian “General Frost” who will soon come to them. Excellent reason for the new sanctions.

There is a third, most likely reason - the resumption of hostilities in Ukraine. It is almost programmed by the alignment of forces and the course of events in Square - and it is clear that Russia will immediately be accused of “aggression”, “violation”, which will entail a new “punishment”. It does not matter who exactly breaks the truce - the militia or Kiev. In the extreme case, Washington may even force Kiev to "make war" - just to prevent the EU from easing the sanctions against Russia.

In any case, you need to understand that sanctions are intended not only to force Russia to back away from Ukraine, but also to “change course” - that is, to abandon the protection of national interests (which is possible only in the case of not just Putin’s departure, but also replacing him with a pro-Atlantic ). This is the main task for the United States, and the passing task (although the stakes are very high here) is the destruction of the economic ties between Russia and Europe, which makes it possible to tie the Old World to the New not only by military means, but also within the framework of the transatlantic partnership. Until the moment when the United States will be convinced that none of these goals can be achieved, years will pass.

We need not just to get used to living in conditions of sanctions - and even more so not to be held for any talk about the possibility of their abolition, but to build a strategy for our economic development. Including on the basis of the fact that our relations with Europe and the United States will rapidly decline throughout the next five years. And when they resume - with Europe, in any case, we are doomed to mutual trade - then we must be in a much stronger and more self-sufficient position than now.

To do this, we need, together with China and BRICS, to accelerate the most important and most difficult work on reforming the global financial system, to restructure our energy and trade flows, to change the economic policy in the country, focusing on stimulating the domestic market and demand, on large-scale infrastructure projects ( including transport links between Europe and Asia), to the new industrialization. All this needs to be done, without being distracted by the absolutely senseless and provocative game “they will remove - they will not remove”, which the West is trying to lure us into. Let them play with themselves in cat and mouse.
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  1. Seva
    Seva 27 September 2014 14: 34
    +36
    The author plus everything is laconic and true
    1. Mooh
      Mooh 27 September 2014 14: 41
      -2
      In general, sensible, but not very relevant. The gas war has been postponed until warm. The rest is not very clear.
      1. sergey32
        sergey32 27 September 2014 16: 52
        +39
        Is that why she is delayed? It’s not the first time in the winter to dill gas with dill.
        And I would suggest counter-sanctions. In winter, sharply raise the export duty on gas in order to compensate for budget losses from Western sanctions. Moreover, so that the price of gas for Europeans is at the level of Norwegian and Qatari. And only by prepayment. Let them pay sanctions out of pocket. It’s faster for them. In war as in war. We did not start it.
        1. Woolfy
          Woolfy 27 September 2014 17: 14
          +19
          I am also for counter-sanctions! And then somehow it is not human. They are beating us, but we do not want to hit. We are all careful. And it is so clear that there will be no indulgence. We need to answer harder ...
          1. APASUS
            APASUS 27 September 2014 18: 44
            +9
            Quote: Woolfy
            I am also for counter-sanctions! And then somehow it is not human. They are beating us, but we do not want to hit. We are all careful. And it is so clear that there will be no indulgence. We need to answer harder ...

            Sanctions are reciprocal, so we must surely hit the target. Sanctions should bring not only purely economic problems but also political ones.
            Here's an example:
            Banning flights to Asia through our territory to countries that have imposed sanctions on us. The response will be amazing. Asian countries will get a price advantage and, and the EU will have problems with the aviation industry.
            You can still safely predict political problems between the countries of Asia and the EU, because no one wants to lose money.
            This is one of the outline of the answer ..........
        2. Suhow
          Suhow 30 September 2014 01: 00
          +3
          I live in Ukraine and there is an amateurish proposal - to invite European partners to the border of Ukraine and the Russian Federation, a stock of gas was delivered to the border with Ukraine, Europa fixed and paid, then these are the problems of the Europeans. In case of frost, Yaytsenyukh will not have a face because of shortages red, and he will scoop out luli both for theft from the owners and for the cold in houses from his fellow citizens. And given that we are brewing a shortage of electricity (they are already considering rolling blackouts), he will have to jump in the parliament ...
          1. EvgenSuslov
            EvgenSuslov 30 September 2014 07: 01
            0
            The Europeans are not fools, and the contract with Gasprom is drawn up in such a way that they pay for gas at their border, and how Gazprom will deliver it is not their problem. The revision of the contract threatens with fines, etc. and so on, so the Europeans are not going to solve this problem ...
      2. Lelek
        Lelek 27 September 2014 16: 58
        +9
        Quote: MooH
        The gas war has been postponed until warm.


        This "congenial" action of our government is completely incomprehensible. Humanity, compassion, etc. with the clearly hostile policy of the former Ukraine towards Russia, they will not give the expected result (the mentality of the Ukrainian society will not allow). Let them feel in their own skin the result of a break with the once fraternal people. We did not start this mess (let "thank Sir Gene Sharp.) But business is business - pay in full and get the goods. stop
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        1. Момент
          Момент 27 September 2014 18: 02
          +6
          It is high time for Russia to respond to every package of sanctions. Europe and Ukraine have already shown themselves enough, you cannot be cute.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 27 September 2014 15: 00
      +16
      We are enemies for the West, so their policy is aggressive towards Russia. It means that we are facing difficult times, and all this should be deposited in our minds, and we should not pay attention to the liberal chatter of the fifth column.
      1. major071
        major071 27 September 2014 15: 32
        +44
        Imposing sanctions allegedly over Ukraine is bullshit. If there was no Ukrainian crisis, they would have come up with another. The whole point is that the United States began to lose its influence, which is almost death for them, because their green papers are unconfirmed, and if the world turns its back on the United States, then the collapse of the entire American economy is guaranteed. The rebirth of Russia is a bone in the throat of "American democracy." In any case, they will not allow the creation of a second "center of power". According to them, the world should be unipolar, where the United States is dominant, and the rest should lick the crumbs off the lord's table. But it was not there. There will be no unipolar world under the auspices of America. Russia is firmly on its feet and is pursuing its policy. Hence the screeching and attempts to blame us for all the troubles. And sanctions, which most countries do not need and harm their economies, but the ass of a black gentleman for some reason seems more familiar to them to lick.
        So the sanctions were, are and will be. So raise up your right hand and with an exclamation - Well uh .. with them! lower sharply down. I did so, which I advise you. hi
      2. PValery53
        PValery53 27 September 2014 15: 41
        +6
        For the uncompromising (aggressive) behavior of the West, Russia, for a start, will halve the flow of oil and gas to the West to those countries that are behaving rabidly against Russia. And then let's look at their behavior. If they continue to be rude, we will completely close all the cranks for them. Let them screech. They have the guts to dictate over Russia. On bent legs, boogers will crawl.
        1. sgazeev
          sgazeev 27 September 2014 19: 30
          +9
          Quote: PValery53
          For the uncompromising (aggressive) behavior of the West, Russia, for a start, will halve the flow of oil and gas to the West to those countries that are behaving rabidly against Russia. And then let's look at their behavior. If they continue to be rude, we will completely close all the cranks for them. Let them screech. They have the guts to dictate over Russia. On bent legs, boogers will crawl.

          We need an assay on the Baltic Papuans. When they shut up, there will be deathly silence and the hosts will subside. lol
      3. yushch
        yushch 28 September 2014 09: 19
        +6
        Even if the Donbass "disappeared into darkness," as the author writes, the United States and Europe will not lift the sanctions. They will begin to demand the return of the Crimea in the ass. And if we fantasize and we return the Crimea, then these little guys will come up with something else.
        Any of our concessions will be regarded as a sign of weakness.
      4. KAM
        KAM 29 September 2014 20: 28
        +1
        Traitors to the motherland are worse than enemies! But how can you fight them so as not to get caught up in the article?
    3. Sergei1982
      Sergei1982 27 September 2014 15: 19
      +15
      It is necessary to reorient the economy to domestic consumption, otherwise we supply all of Europe with gas, and in Russia half of the population centers are not supplied with gas, what can I say here in Tyumen Oblast, and then gas is not everywhere, for that we live on gas and oil.
      1. Denis 60 rus
        Denis 60 rus 29 September 2014 21: 30
        +1
        what gas and oil we live on can be seen at the nearest gas station
      2. Denis 60 rus
        Denis 60 rus 29 September 2014 21: 30
        0
        what gas and oil we live on can be seen at the nearest gas station
    4. Reasonable, 2,3
      Reasonable, 2,3 27 September 2014 15: 47
      +7
      Now it dawned on me why the Caspian Sea was so zealously enhanced.
    5. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 27 September 2014 16: 58
      +5
      Forgive me, but I want to add my own "5 kopecks": "... what and to whom should we show? In matters of sex, take care of your tonsils, but otherwise we are a country that grew up on examples of" tank tourism "in Europe" and as they say , if you invite someone we are already here "!
    6. cat 1970
      cat 1970 27 September 2014 17: 56
      +6
      That's right, and the part E.R.N.O.zh.E.p.a. I T.V.R. will also answer for Russia, and for Ukraine, and for Iraq, Libya, Tunisia, and for Ebola, for EVERYTHING. He is the last 44th president, and then what, Atlantis or the state of Texas, California ...
    7. DMB3000
      DMB3000 27 September 2014 18: 18
      +2
      we are not afraid of a gray wolf, a gray wolf ... a gray wolf .... (because we are bears))))
    8. Sterlya
      Sterlya 28 September 2014 03: 45
      0
      Sanctions, sanctions. What does not kill us makes us stronger.
  2. Pro100Igor
    Pro100Igor 27 September 2014 14: 36
    +27
    La fashion dot ru! Simple beauty!
    1. fif21
      fif21 27 September 2014 15: 05
      +2
      Quote: Pro100
      La fashion dot ru! Simple beauty!
      Russian hamsters are not afraid (maybe so?)
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    3. KAZAK67
      KAZAK67 27 September 2014 16: 20
      +13
      And where are the men's panties with "DO NOT MIX MY BULAVA"
    4. Denis 60 rus
      Denis 60 rus 29 September 2014 21: 41
      +2
      pensioner with a minimum pension of about 7000 rubles. go, too, is not afraid of sanctions ?! ... have been in the pharmacy for a long time? or in the grocery ... in general, and on the whole, I'm happy for the country, but it's only hard that it will not be at all for those who fly to resorts twice a year. I don’t flirt at all.
      1. anip
        anip 30 September 2014 13: 14
        0
        Quote: denis 60 rus
        pensioner with a minimum pension of about 7000 rubles. go, too, is not afraid of sanctions ?! ... have been in the pharmacy for a long time? or in the grocery ... in general, and on the whole, I'm happy for the country, but it's only hard that it will not be at all for those who fly to resorts twice a year. I don’t flirt at all.

        Exactly. Prices are rising slowly, in contrast to salaries. And the first signs of the beginning of a "cheerful" life for the people began to be observed.
    5. Denis 60 rus
      Denis 60 rus 29 September 2014 21: 41
      0
      pensioner with a minimum pension of about 7000 rubles. go, too, is not afraid of sanctions ?! ... have been in the pharmacy for a long time? or in the grocery ... in general, and on the whole, I'm happy for the country, but it's only hard that it will not be at all for those who fly to resorts twice a year. I don’t flirt at all.
  3. Pro100Igor
    Pro100Igor 27 September 2014 14: 36
    +25
    And here even comments are not needed!
    1. SHILO
      27 September 2014 20: 32
      0
      Quote: Pro100
      And here even comments are not needed!


      I beg to differ smile and still allow comment angry . Short ... For connoisseurs!

      laughing
  4. g1v2
    g1v2 27 September 2014 14: 38
    +29
    In fact, the sanctions will not be able to force us to anything, and some of the amers understands this. Sanctions are simply an element of war and their purpose is to get us in trouble. Therefore, no matter what we do or do not do, they will be canceled only when the West sees that they give the opposite result, and for our economy they become measures of protectionism, that is, protecting our market from external competition. When the West realizes that it is losing the market forever, and the Russian economy becomes more independent and less exposed to outside influence, then the sanctions will be quickly lifted even if at that moment we bomb Kiev.
    1. gunya
      gunya 27 September 2014 15: 19
      +4
      Correctly said! It is necessary to quickly give up dancing to the Amov tune.
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    3. smith7
      smith7 27 September 2014 15: 20
      +5
      To a large extent, the sanctions are designed to cause trouble and to play on these “troubles” our fifth column (as well as close friends of Putin who fell under the sanctions personally) “rocked the boat” and arranged their home-grown Maidan for us in Russia. But every cloud has a silver lining and vice versa.
    4. Yaro001
      Yaro001 27 September 2014 20: 15
      +2
      May the sanctions be tougher, because this is a golden time for the development of our production. Maybe this is a new round in the development of RUSSIA. The main thing is that our politicians are not blown away by the pressure of their oligarch friends. And so the prospects for us are good !!!!
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  6. Pro100Igor
    Pro100Igor 27 September 2014 14: 38
    +6
    Quote: Seva
    The author plus everything is laconic and true

    More than agree. Chewed and put in your mouth! A fat plus!
  7. Posya10rus
    Posya10rus 27 September 2014 14: 39
    +6
    Article +. Everything to the point and without hysteria.
  8. novobranets
    novobranets 27 September 2014 14: 57
    +10
    European businessmen are no longer hiding fire their own and amer governments. The business established over the years is covered with a copper basin. It will take a lot of money and even more expensive time to restore the broken ties. In addition, my grandmother said in two if they could return, a holy place, it never happens empty. It is unlikely that the countries that have occupied the vacant niche will want to leave such a huge market as Russia. So, it is not at all clear who lost more, we or they. They make kaput themselves, it is at least unreasonable.
  9. krivdaSPb
    krivdaSPb 27 September 2014 14: 57
    +11
    A little to the wrong steppe: here it is: "what should Russia do to lift the sanctions" (c) reminds each time: "We will be categorical: do this and that, otherwise we will end up in such an ass that you simply will not have someone to confront with further! You heard! IMMEDIATELY !!!"
    The author, thanks, great article!
  10. BOB044
    BOB044 27 September 2014 15: 00
    +7
    Whatever you do, the US and the EU will continue to mold us into Redheads. But we are not afraid to write on them from a high hill. And the article is correct.
  11. MuadDib
    MuadDib 27 September 2014 15: 01
    +9
    The infamous jackals in the west want to start a war. Only loyalty to the state course can lead the Russian Federation out of the ring of political and economic aggression.
    1. muhomor
      muhomor 27 September 2014 16: 32
      +2
      They will not go into open war until they feel themselves the undisputed victors!
  12. Iline
    Iline 27 September 2014 15: 04
    +4
    They do not understand one thing - the more you put pressure on Russia, the more you lose yourself. How would then not be in the shadow of history and beg from the same BRICS, SCO, etc.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 27 September 2014 18: 15
      +2
      More and more people began to understand this.
      A meeting and demonstration against the war in Ukraine and in support of Russia took place on Sunday in the Bulgarian capital. Several hundred people marched with placards and flags from the national assembly (parliament) of the country to the presidential administration building in Sofia. 4772




      "Stop the US aggression", "NATO get out of Bulgaria!", "Bulgaria for peace in Donbass!", "Union with Russia!" - was written on numerous posters.

      Demonstrators carried plaques and flags with the names of dozens of countries that at various times fell victim to US imperial ambitions, ITAR-TASS reports. During the rally, there were calls to impose an embargo on the supply of American goods, demands to stop the bloodshed in Ukraine and to end the policy of sanctions against the Russian Federation.

      More details on NTV.Ru: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1214325/#ixzz3EWd2mwuJ
      1. novobranets
        novobranets 27 September 2014 19: 01
        +1
        And here's another. Citizens, as it happens, the Poles have risen. Looks like the apple diet has worked.
        Protesters with St. George ribbons and flags of Ukraine, DPR and LPR gathered in one of the busiest squares in Warsaw at the entrance to the Centrum metro station. The demonstrators demand an end to the military operation in eastern Ukraine, as well as investigate the crash of the Malaysian Boeing and the tragedy that occurred on May 2 in the Odessa House of Trade Unions, ITAR-TASS reports.

        Tomasz Jankowski, organizer of the action: “Today, once again, Polish anti-war societies, various organizations want to protest against the aggression of the Ukrainian government, the Kiev fascists against the people of Donbass, against war crimes. We also want to remind you of the tragedy of May 2 in Odessa, which is hushed up in Poland and was quickly forgotten by the Western media. In addition, we would like to remind you of the crash of the Malaysian Boeing, as this topic also quickly disappeared when it turned out that the plane was not shot down by the militias of the southeast. "

        More details on NTV.Ru: http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1222860/#ixzz3EWp5vkLu
        1. krivdaSPb
          krivdaSPb 27 September 2014 22: 32
          +1
          Unfortunately, these activists in Poland are a pitiful bunch.
          Ordinary citizens of the middle stratum, I will put it this way, are quite clearly opposed to Russia and sympathize with Ukraine.
          This year I have had almost two dozen families (not people, but families).
          All from very different places. They had one thing in common - sympathy for the Ukrainians and indignation towards Russia.
          That's it.
          I don't think that cheap apples in stores greatly influenced this opinion of ordinary city citizens.
          I'm sorry, but I'm sure of this :(
  13. Strashila
    Strashila 27 September 2014 15: 08
    +6
    What has been said for so long has been confirmed ... US President cannibal Obama has removed the title of superpower from his country.
    But the funniest thing in this speech ... that the United States will take control, and the rest of their accomplices will rake everything that the United States has done in Ukraine ... why in "B", and not in "NA" ... but because it is full anus.

    http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1222656/rambler#ixzz3EVqlqbrW

    In his traditional Saturday address to the Americans, the US President once again declared about "Russian aggression", against which he is now going to unite the whole world. Obama is convinced that the United States is "on the right side of history," which means that everyone else must take this side.

    Barack Obama, US President: “America is leading the effort to unite the entire world against Russian aggression in Ukraine. Together with our allies, we will support the people of Ukraine in the development of democracy and economy. "
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 27 September 2014 17: 09
      +3
      Quote: Strashila
      America is leading the effort to unite the world against Russian aggression in Ukraine. Together with our allies, we will support the people of Ukraine in the development of democracy and economy. "


      Loved Ukraine to death. Loosened to a beggarly state. I cultivated to the phase of "horses" and "God forgive me". What else will the Western "Edem" come up with for the Square? fellow
  14. Sour
    Sour 27 September 2014 15: 09
    +8
    Rarely give or take an article. But then I put a plus. It is clear that there will be no easing of sanctions. But this has not only negative but also positive aspects. There are more positive ones.
    The author correctly speaks of the need to face the domestic market. There are considerable reserves here. He also speaks correctly about the need to develop infrastructure.
    It is a pity that he did not say anything about the need for accelerated development of the agricultural sector. In general, the agricultural sector is underestimated by many. But there is an absolute pattern: highly developed agricultural sector - high standard of living of the population. There are no exceptions to this rule. In addition, the cost of food on the world market will only grow.
  15. bmv04636
    bmv04636 27 September 2014 15: 12
    +10
    In Kharkiv on Saturday, the police did not allow a procession and a rally organized by the city committee of the Communist Party of Ukraine.
    The bailiff read out the decision to prohibit the action to the protesters. After an attempt to start the march, the police began to push back the crowd in the direction opposite to Freedom Square, where the Communists were planning to go, reports "Interfax".
    “The police detained two dozen people who violated the ban on this anti-Ukrainian rally. Among others, they detained the main Kharkov communist, ex-People's Deputy Alla Aleksandrovskaya, ”said the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Arsen Avakov, quoted by ITAR-TASS.
    The rally is over. According to the Ministry of Internal Affairs in the Kharkiv region, about a hundred people took part in it.
    It is also reported that the streets of Kharkov are patrolled by armored vehicles, RIA Novosti reports.
    Earlier on Saturday, the adviser to the head of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, Anton Gerashchenko, threatened the residents of Kharkiv, who were going to take the action, to provide "preliminary detention cells."
    “I do not recommend the residents of Kharkiv who succumb to provocative calls to come to Sumskaya Street with pro-Russian or separatist symbols. You run the risk of spending time in the bullpen before identifying. And if someone tries to disrupt public order, they can stay there for longer, ”he said.
    Here it is Bandera democracy ay where are our marching people why were they not there
  16. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 27 September 2014 15: 13
    +4
    This is a worthy response from Russia. We need to do our own thing and look less at the West. You just need to conduct an information policy in the West, clarify your position, disclose the true goals of the United States and the role of the gayrope. We have where to supply energy resources, we have someone with whom to strengthen economic relations, and let the Gayrope eat herself out of anger. The West must understand that Russia can only be on an equal footing with anyone else or in any way. And economic relations with the West will already be completely different if the gayrope wants to change her behavior.
  17. vigor1288
    vigor1288 27 September 2014 15: 13
    +4
    The fact that the sanctions will not be lifted is clear as day, all these EU speeches are a bluff while the Americans trample them like chickens. By the spring, they may really sing in falsetto from the jingling eggs and indignation of the local peoples, who will have to give loans for this year - and not from what. Plus, now the EU will still be in a fever from referendums
  18. fif21
    fif21 27 September 2014 15: 20
    +3
    Sanctions are an instrument of economic pressure on Russia. They are trying to manage us: we will fulfill the will of the mattress mats - liver, no - sanctions. Instead of mutually beneficial cooperation, an attempt at pressure. Well, they themselves pushed Russia away, we found partners who do not teach us how to live and what to do. Goodbye fascington, hello Beijing. And they will trade with us, but now it will be possible to tear three skins from them - the maximum prices for our raw materials, and the minimum orders for their goods. So go to the forest, gentlemen "partners".
    1. Sour
      Sour 27 September 2014 15: 29
      +6
      China is simply forced to move closer to Russia, because if Russia weakens, then China will be left alone with the West.
      But you don't need to doze with China either. They are not simple guys.
  19. Altona
    Altona 27 September 2014 15: 23
    +2
    The words of the West are worth nothing ... We were promised a lot not to move NATO to the East, about the absence of a missile defense threat in the third positional area, and much more ... We can only believe in their threats ... Therefore, it makes no sense to concede ... We ourselves need to be tougher and hit painful points ... Especially in the market ...
    1. Sour
      Sour 27 September 2014 15: 34
      0
      Quote: Altona
      We ourselves need to be tougher and hit painful points ... Especially in market ones.

      Only not to the detriment of yourself.
      If you hit a painful point and at the same time beat off your fist, then this is useless. You have to act wisely.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 27 September 2014 17: 16
      +4
      Quote: Altona
      .Especially in market ...



      Ban the supply of titanium to the United States (under the pretext of depleting ore reserves or because of the cutting of baobabs in Africa). A good blow to the aircraft industry. bully
      1. Sour
        Sour 27 September 2014 17: 26
        +1
        Quote: Lelek
        Prohibit the supply of titanium to the USA

        Let's leave our workers and engineers out of work. And at the same time the Russian budget is free of taxes and export duties.
        Oh, what good fellows and patriots we will be! fool
        And the Americans already have a simple technology for the utilization of titanium from decommissioned aircraft. Thanks to her, they, with minimal costs, will hold out for several years.
        And to whom will we prove what?
        Here I am just against such nonsense. They are doing the foolish way, not us.
        1. RONIN-HS
          RONIN-HS 28 September 2014 12: 54
          0
          to Sour ... And to whom shall we prove what? ...

          We need to build ourselves a TITANIUM submarine of the "Komsomolets" type ... laughing And the titan in action, and the Americans bummer with a headache ... fool
          That's it, "my dear ..." - "... are you at a loss !?" (from the movie "Tractor drivers") laughing
  20. akula
    akula 27 September 2014 15: 27
    +7
    It is not the first time for us to tighten our belts, we will tighten them. The main thing is that the government should pursue the correct course within the country, which I hope for.
  21. AQUARIUS 65
    AQUARIUS 65 27 September 2014 15: 32
    +4
    There is a third, most likely reason - the resumption of hostilities in Ukraine.

    What are we talking about? What kind of "resumption" of hostilities can be said when they do not stop for a single day and are unlikely to stop! So this is not a reason for the introduction of new sanctions. To introduce them, Washington does not need any reasons: neither the first, nor the second, nor the third. Therefore, it is not worth "pushing", pretending that we are trying to do something in these directions. It is better to direct these efforts towards overcoming the sanctions measures and becoming a power respected by all for its economic independence, and not only for its military power.
    1. Sour
      Sour 27 September 2014 15: 51
      +2
      The fighting took on a sluggish character. But this is not because of Kiev's peacefulness, but simply because they simply ran out of money for a large-scale war. And nobody gives new money. Hence the Minsk agreements, which, however, are not strictly observed.
      I think that there will be no escalation of the war in the near future. Simply because Ukraine has nothing to fight with. They will continue to do minor mischief.
  22. tommy717
    tommy717 27 September 2014 15: 53
    +1
    And I also want a T-shirt with poplars and scatter Obamkin's ashes over the n and n Dos fields!
  23. igordok
    igordok 27 September 2014 15: 54
    +25
    Among Ukrainians there are such gunners
    1. krivdaSPb
      krivdaSPb 27 September 2014 22: 38
      +3
      Yes, and from planes, I heard, the bombs were simply thrown out unactivated (I don't know much about this, but the point is that they fell and did not explode). And not an isolated case, by the way.
      1. m262
        m262 28 September 2014 17: 47
        +1
        You must always remain a person, someday it will be counted ...
  24. Naum
    Naum 27 September 2014 16: 13
    +10
    Russophobic schizophrenia will continue until the complete end of one of the warring parties. Or America - or Russia. There is no third! If Russia does not lead the process of establishing a new, just and safe for all, world order, then it will lose. SCO, EVRAZES, CU, etc. - its fragments, puzzles, which should form a general picture. The world yearned for JUSTICE, which is also our, Russian, national idea from time immemorial. We need to bring it to life.
    Another moment. I am very unhappy with the "solution" of the gas problem with Ukraine. Again, one-sided concessions. They owe us 5,3 lard bucks for the previously consumed gas - so let them first pay ALL this amount + an advance payment for the monthly volume of supplies (paid monthly) in the amount of 380 hryvnias per thousand cubic meters. Do the "ancient uk * dv" have no money? Come on! They find them for the war. Moreover, it is in a comparable volume. If they want to live, they will find it! And so it turns out that Russia again "caved in under the changing world." I don't want my Motherland to bend under the scoundrels!
  25. Tanechka-clever
    Tanechka-clever 27 September 2014 16: 16
    -1
    "..In recent days, the West has made several statements in which it explained what Russia must do to lift the sanctions imposed by Europe and the United States ..."

    Meanwhile, the site "Russian Spring" reports .. in the article
    "The competition" Mrs. America-2015 "will be held in Crimea" 27.09.2014/14/07 - XNUMX:XNUMX I read in it

    "American billionaire David Marmell held talks in Sevastopol with Acting Governor Sergei Menyailo about organizing the" Mrs. America-2015 "contest in the hero-city.

    "The competition of beauty queens on the Crimean land, as conceived by the billionaire, will become a kind of challenge to the current anti-Russian policy of the US authorities, seeking to" punish "the Russian Federation with all kinds of sanctions."

    THANKS "RUSSIAN VESNA" - I now understand why RUSSIA annexed Crimea ...
    I NOW KNOW - OUR ASPIRATIONS AND OUR IDEALS... NOTHING CHANGED - ONLY THE OWNER CHANGES ..

    AGAINST ....
    1. Tanechka-clever
      Tanechka-clever 27 September 2014 17: 42
      +1
      Quote: Tanya-umunechka
      Meanwhile, the site "Russian Spring" reports .. in the article "The competition" Mrs. America-2015 "will be held in the Crimea" 27.09.2014/14/07 - XNUMX:XNUMX in it I read


      "In Sevastopol, American guests were fed Russian borscht, and Governor Sergei Menyailo presented David Marmell with a photo album" My Sevastopol ". “Now this is our Sevastopol"Marmalle said in response."
      "Now this is our Sevastopol" - said the American, with which I congratulate Menyailo and VISA, and now he is guaranteed a warm welcome at the State Department.
      "Gorbachev" lived, is alive and will live in the Russian open spaces.
      The Americans showed us today in Sevastopol how it all began in the USSR - and WHO is the boss in Crimea today ... nothing has changed since the time of Yanukovych, and we know how it all ended - the war in Donbass ... fratricidal

      Why we were 90 years old, but because the American "friends" once brought their films with an Oscar to the Minister of Culture of the USSR, and what our HISTORY should be like.
      And at this time in the Donbass our guys are being killed, and the governor is treating them with BORSCH.
      Look, Mr. Sergey Menyailo - DO NOT SHOVE. Today it is no longer the 90s or even 80s, when everything was put up for sale with impunity. Today, no one is going to stop the auction either - only the Governor Menyailo has a "turnip", and someone's grave on Saur-Mogila.

      But today a "man with a gun" is walking on the streets without the need for a family and his needs today are BREAD and SPECIES. Translated into modern language - WOMEN and MONEY.
      SO WHO IS PLAYING WITH THE PEOPLE TODAY ...
      And then what ... when women run out, and money ceases to be a VALUE ... And then it will be ...

      EMPTINESS...
      1. Tanechka-clever
        Tanechka-clever 27 September 2014 22: 35
        0
        Quote: Tanya-umunechka
        "Now this is our Sevastopol," Marmal said in response. "


        Truth and only truth ...
        Russian newspaper. "Mrs. America 2015" will be held in Sevastopol ".
        27.09.2014, 10: 21

        Help "RG"
        The experience of jointly holding Russian-American beauty competitions for married women has already been.
        In 1990 in Moscow a joint competition of the two countries "Mrs. Soviet Union - Mrs. America" ​​took place.
        Then in 1990, at the invitation of the government of the USSR David Marmall first came to Moscow. “It was our joint idea to hold the Mrs. America - Mrs. Soviet Union contest,” recalls Marmall. “And we succeeded - the contest took place and was a great success. Although then, as, indeed, today, it was hard to believe that this is possible. "

        Then in 1990, at the invitation of the government of the USSR ...
        This is where "democracy" and "freedom" begins ....... The games continue ...

        But it all begins ... see or see ... AGAIN... and we can see changes on the doorstep ...

        There are customers, and there are performers.
        The hidden always becomes DISCOVERED, but sometimes .... too late.
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  26. vigor1288
    vigor1288 27 September 2014 16: 18
    +1
    in the Federal Republic of Germany, a performance about the ATO began - many Germans were surprised to see Nazi symbols
    http://www.vesti.ru/videos/show/vid/621389/#
  27. efimich41
    efimich41 27 September 2014 16: 23
    +5
    Russia needs to become completely independent from external supplies. Russia used to feed all of Europe, so why has that changed. It is necessary to rebuild its agricultural sector, mechanical engineering and electronics industry. There are still enough engineers for this. Then the need for supplies from abroad will disappear. And foreigners will always have a need for energy resources. So sell them to them for rubles at prices favorable to Russia. Let them ask Russia for mercy, and not vice versa.
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  29. Aleksander
    Aleksander 27 September 2014 16: 28
    +2
    I dare to supplement the author — even if all the requirements of the Ruins (pah-pah!) Are fulfilled in the Donbas, the sanctions will remain because of the Crimea. This is an eternal pretext for everything and everything until the war.
  30. PValery53
    PValery53 27 September 2014 16: 29
    0
    Quote: Strashila
    Together with our allies, we will support the people of Ukraine in the development of democracy and economy. "

    And why, then, Obamka, in "commemorating" democracy and the economy, gave tsu to destroy this democracy (established fascism in Ukraine) and the economy, starting a war in Donbass ?? - He, that, asserts one thing and at the same time does the opposite ?! - He has all the houses there?
    Ds. Disorder of spatio-temporal and cause-and-effect relationships.
    PS Where did the whole continuum go?
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 27 September 2014 17: 26
      +1
      Quote: PValery53
      Does he have all the houses there?


      He has something, like all Ukrainian (and not only) oligarchs, all the houses (no one at the front) in mountain Swiss chalets. bully
  31. mihasik
    mihasik 27 September 2014 16: 32
    0
    The political, economic and military "Caribbean Crisis" is indispensable! The West understands only strength in any way. Until we start purposefully hitting the painful points of the West (not once), as in the case of products from the EU and the USA, but pedantically and constantly, the sanctions will not be lifted!
    AND THE MAIN THING! Stop looking around and be afraid of what they will say or think about us (once again they will pour a portion of slops) in this fucking West!
  32. azbukin77
    azbukin77 27 September 2014 16: 34
    0
    Traded peder..you are like in a bazaar, but all the same, there is no more faith in gayrope! Mishan has already bought into their cookies!
  33. Roman 11
    Roman 11 27 September 2014 16: 35
    +1
    It is clear that there can be no talk of any change in course - but is there any chance at all that the West will back down?Kindergarten ........ said the same in March - either we suck the bolt, or we have our right. We will be constantly bred, the question is, is Putin really naive
    Who thinks the west can back up? I think we made our move, so why shake with fear now for what has already happened ?? We need to think about changing trade, with the subsequent shutdown of gas for gays, it is not we who should shake, but they. And we have everything as it was, where a single payment system, six months have passed, it was possible to create!
  34. kotev19
    kotev19 27 September 2014 16: 40
    0
    [...] If desired, the United States and Atlanticists in Europe will inflate a terrible scandal - scaring the Europeans with the Russian "General Frost", [...]

    And here: SCARED BY THE TRANSLATION "MOROZOVA" lol
  35. Viktor Kudinov
    Viktor Kudinov 27 September 2014 16: 42
    0
    Or maybe Western countries are working out future sanctions against each other on sanctions against Russia ?!
  36. azbukin77
    azbukin77 27 September 2014 16: 51
    0
    Quote: Victor Kudinov
    Or maybe Western countries are working out future sanctions against each other on sanctions against Russia ?!
    This rose in pido..rov worked out, everything is lubricated.
  37. muhomor
    muhomor 27 September 2014 16: 53
    +3
    Why is the West now living in chocolate? The EU economy went up very strongly after the death of the USSR. An awesomely huge market has opened up. Now it's time to improve this market by destroying the Ukrainian economy. Therefore, it's not about sanctions, but about the law of imperialism - the struggle for markets. Unfortunately, this often happened by military means. So the law is one - shoot and rule. Now there is such a gimp all over the world! It's not about Ukraine and the sanctions. If it were not for it, there was some Syria or Libya or Yugoslavia. I must say that Russian interests are being infringed upon. Moreover, it is quite active and effective. The author is right! We must energetically seek new military and economic allies. It is necessary to influence financial flows. Now the financial situation is not in our favor.
  38. Iskander 090
    Iskander 090 27 September 2014 16: 54
    +2
    we make too many concessions
  39. pahom54
    pahom54 27 September 2014 17: 18
    +2
    The sanctions aim not only to force Russia to retreat from Ukraine, but also to "change course" - that is, to abandon the protection of national interests (which is possible only if not only Putin leaves, but also replaces him with a pro-Atlantic politician).

    This is their main goal now. As long as Russia is moving along the Putin course, it is getting stronger both politically, economically and defensively. Whatever you say, such a Russia is not needed by anyone, not even "pseudo-friends". They need a weak Russia.
    And for this reason, it is impossible to turn off the current course. Everything that causes the howl of the United States and its backsliders is being done correctly, and their negativism should serve as an assessment of the correctness or error in the course of Russia ...
    Let them howl ...
    It seems to me that the banana macaque, that the shadowy (gray) world government has already passed a verdict on a piggy pig with an egg sniffer: absolution, "scapegoats" who have practically been written off ...
  40. kot28.ru
    kot28.ru 27 September 2014 17: 23
    +2
    Quote: Strashila
    What has been said for so long has been confirmed ... US President cannibal Obama has removed the title of superpower from his country.
    But the funniest thing in this speech ... that the United States will take control, and the rest of their accomplices will rake everything that the United States has done in Ukraine ... why in "B", and not in "NA" ... but because it is full anus.

    http://www.ntv.ru/novosti/1222656/rambler#ixzz3EVqlqbrW

    In his traditional Saturday address to the Americans, the US President once again declared about "Russian aggression", against which he is now going to unite the whole world. Obama is convinced that the United States is "on the right side of history," which means that everyone else must take this side.

    Barack Obama, US President: “America is leading the effort to unite the entire world against Russian aggression in Ukraine. Together with our allies, we will support the people of Ukraine in the development of democracy and economy. "

    How do you want the word USA to disappear from the lexicon along with the impudent Saxons? drinks !I woke up, and a terrible dream in the form of Uncle Sam remained SLEEP drinks !ANDmerica must BE DESTROYED !!! am
  41. Major Yurik
    Major Yurik 27 September 2014 17: 54
    +2
    Quote: Sour
    Quote: Lelek
    Prohibit the supply of titanium to the USA

    Let's leave our workers and engineers out of work. And at the same time the Russian budget is free of taxes and export duties.
    Oh, what good fellows and patriots we will be! fool
    And the Americans already have a simple technology for the utilization of titanium from decommissioned aircraft. Thanks to her, they, with minimal costs, will hold out for several years.
    And to whom will we prove what?
    Here I am just against such nonsense. They are doing the foolish way, not us.


    No, it is necessary to sell titanium to amers, it is profitable in Africa as well. Only settlement for rubles, and they took Yankes into space, if you please, pay off in rubles. Well, for a start something like this! hi
  42. Stinger
    Stinger 27 September 2014 18: 05
    +2
    There should be one response to the sanctions - send everyone and do what is beneficial to us.
  43. leglun
    leglun 27 September 2014 18: 06
    +7
    I live outside the Urals near Lake Baikal. All my soot is in the garden and I’ll get sanctions. And there are a lot of us !! 1
    1. izGOI
      izGOI 27 September 2014 19: 55
      -1
      Quote: leglun
      All my soot in the garden

      Here you go to the Internet, what is your computer, did you grow up in your garden? This is all similar to the Ukrops: "And what?", When they are told that you will make many farms from Ukraine with huts, vyshyvankas, pigs, with Andriyks and Natalkas in the field. This is a pastoral from the times of Gogol. Why, it's the 21st century.
      1. svp67
        svp67 27 September 2014 19: 59
        0
        Quote: izGOI
        to ukropskoe: "And what?"
        A small clarification, in the dialect of that area it will sound like: "A and sho?" Well, in some cases: "Huh ....?"
  44. KBR109
    KBR109 27 September 2014 18: 46
    +2
    Quote: PValery53
    For the uncompromising (aggressive) behavior of the West, Russia, for a start, will halve the flow of oil and gas to the West to those countries that are behaving rabidly against Russia. And then let's look at their behavior. If they continue to be rude, we will completely close all the cranks for them. Let them screech. They have the guts to dictate over Russia. On bent legs, boogers will crawl.

    Drink honey in your words. Unfortunately, this will not be so. Our "rudders" have a very thin gut. But it would be very good ... Already over there with the stolen gas they gave slack ... If there is a debt of 5.3-5.6, they say they will pay three and the gas will go. Three-and there is a prepayment and a debt?
    1. krivdaSPb
      krivdaSPb 27 September 2014 22: 51
      0
      I think our guts are very good :) If they press, they will act as they should.
      I assure you that no one in Europe has forgotten the winter (I don’t remember exactly - two or three years ago), when we all here almost gave an oak from the cold - Russia stopped the supply because of the Ukrov gas theft.
      Moreover, we specifically froze, having at that time about 70% of our Croatian gas.
      One can imagine what was happening in countries poor in deposits ...
  45. Olga Sinigrosova
    Olga Sinigrosova 27 September 2014 18: 49
    +1
    This is what I do not understand in the comments from the West: either Russia is so weak that it is easy to crush it, or it is so strong that while there is an opportunity it is necessary to push. But this does not change the fact - they are afraid, and strongly. Can we handle it? We can. Just not to bend, as in the 90s.
  46. aud13
    aud13 27 September 2014 22: 23
    0
    Quote: APASUS
    Quote: Woolfy
    I am also for counter-sanctions! And then somehow it is not human. They are beating us, but we do not want to hit. We are all careful. And it is so clear that there will be no indulgence. We need to answer harder ...

    Sanctions are reciprocal, so we must surely hit the target. Sanctions should bring not only purely economic problems but also political ones.
    Here's an example:
    Banning flights to Asia through our territory to countries that have imposed sanctions on us. The response will be amazing. Asian countries will get a price advantage and, and the EU will have problems with the aviation industry.
    You can still safely predict political problems between the countries of Asia and the EU, because no one wants to lose money.
    This is one of the outline of the answer ..........


    There is another beautiful response to their sanctions.
    The fact is that the West rigidly blocks its financial markets for us. At the same time, their audit companies are actively conducting their own audits and pumping out quite serious money from our monopolists - oligarchs.
    The question for Khu-Yam in Russia is the services of their auditors, if they stop giving loans anyway. Isn't it easier to provide domestic auditors with work, who, by the way, will do the same job better and cheaper?
  47. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 28 September 2014 00: 12
    +5
    Quote: Olga Sinigrosova
    Can we handle it? We can. Just not to bend, as in the 90s.

    We'll manage - the stump is clear !!! The main thing is not to let the marsh and white-ribbon bastards rise. Now there is a real chance to curtail the liberal model of economic "underdevelopment" imposed on Russia - to economic development in the national interests.
  48. Ivanhoe
    Ivanhoe 28 September 2014 16: 47
    0
    if we take the example of China, which decided to powerfully develop its domestic market, then the idea is good !!!
  49. pvv113
    pvv113 29 September 2014 00: 59
    +5
    supporters of the blockade of Russia will always have reasons to accuse Putin of breaking the Minsk agreements

    Sometimes accusations are unfounded and reach the point of absurdity
  50. nomad
    nomad 29 September 2014 08: 20
    +1
    What about the sanctions "if they take it off, they won't take it off," but I liked the shirt. Show would be on the central, that would look mattress covers. It would be an excellent propaganda trick, but the mattress mats will immediately burst, that we scare them with our rockets ...
    1. Mstislav
      Mstislav 30 September 2014 14: 23
      0
      As Comrade Stalin said, "We are threatening, we are preduing ...".