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BTR "Saxon" for the Ukrainian security forces

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Blog bmpd referring to the web resource “AUTO-Consulting” informs that some volunteers from Ukraine have agreed to buy and supply 50 to Britain written off British AT-105 “Saxon” armored personnel carriers. The cost of one machine is $ 57 thousand. The price of the entire contract is about $ 2,85 million.

BTR "Saxon" for the Ukrainian security forces


However, it was not easy to deliver the equipment to Ukraine, despite the fact that the issue was already resolved with the money and the supplier was found. Inhibit the delivery of bureaucratic obstacles. The Ministry of Defense of Ukraine "good" for the supply of equipment gave immediately, but this was not enough. As it turned out, due to legislative restrictions, the military can not arrange the purchase of these armored vehicles for themselves, since they are not in service with the Ukrainian army, and the budget has been set for a long time. Thus, according to the authors of the publication, the British armored personnel carriers "can only go to the volunteer battalions of the Ministry of Internal Affairs."

Help "bmpd": The AT-105 "Saxon" BTR was developed in 1970's by the British company GKN Defense (later inherited by BAE Systems) and was a variation of the AT-104 police officer, using the same Bedford M truck chassis. AT-105 was mass-produced from the 1976 of the year. In the 1982-1991 years, the British Army acquired the Saxon 665 armored personnel carrier as a "cheap" mechanization solution to equip six infantry battalions and some auxiliary units and services. About 170 "Saxon" in 1970-1980's were exported - mainly for police forces. Since the end of the 1990s, all Saxon armored personnel carriers have been decommissioned by the British army, and currently 147 decommissioned stocked armored personnel carriers are offered for sale by the UK Department of Defense, and a significant number of vehicles are supplied by various British and American companies. ”.
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  1. DRA-88
    DRA-88 25 September 2014 19: 50
    +14
    Well, to be continued !!!
    kakly continue to arm themselves and this is no longer funny !!!
    1. Revolver
      Revolver 25 September 2014 20: 01
      +20
      With the world on a thread, wretched * loop around the neck.

      * To the state of Ukraine
      1. enot73
        enot73 25 September 2014 20: 06
        +16
        Quote: Nagan
        wretched * loop around the neck. * To the state of Ukraine
        Weakly, however, against, announced by ukroSMI, "enemy", Russian T - 90 laughing
        1. Muadipus
          Muadipus 25 September 2014 20: 31
          +18
          Weak or not. not important.
          As another gift to Ukraine, the Donbass militia will come down, but they don’t look in the teeth at the gift horse.
          1. Sid.74
            Sid.74 25 September 2014 20: 41
            +8
            Quote: Muadipus
            As another gift to Ukraine, the Donbass militia will come down, but they don’t look in the teeth at the gift horse.

            I’m not sure that he is for Donbass. It can be used against the new positive Maidan that Parashenko has already promised! wassat
            1. Muadipus
              Muadipus 25 September 2014 21: 10
              +1
              armored personnel carriers could not cope against the Maidans, they were burning with a torch, and these moreover.
              1. Sid.74
                Sid.74 25 September 2014 21: 19
                +5
                Quote: Muadipus
                armored personnel carriers did not cope against the maydauns, burned with a torch, and these moreover.

                These fire extinguishing systems are provided! And there were almost no mayduns, almost all of them were buried in heaps somewhere in the Donbass.
        2. gav6757
          gav6757 25 September 2014 23: 38
          +5
          Cool Baters, just for the dill army!
          That's where they keep them? Serdyukov would have been taken there, he would have headed procurement! It would help to dill arm, expensive and bespontovo!
      2. Cap-3 USSR
        Cap-3 USSR 25 September 2014 23: 03
        +6
        Looks more like a coffin with music.
        And etro after the militia tanks and armored personnel carriers burned well.
    2. Zhekson
      Zhekson 25 September 2014 20: 03
      +24
      oh what nose is good for taking RPG shots
      1. AnpeL
        AnpeL 25 September 2014 20: 08
        +12
        There, it seems like all sides are good for taking shots and shells. Outwardly it looks like a piece of chopped.
        Does anyone have a thread infa about the combat use of such machines?
        1. cosmos111
          cosmos111 25 September 2014 20: 22
          +9
          here, another burp fool ukrvpkprom laughing
          info s : http: //twower.livejournal.com/1428475.html

          UAZ, named "Icebreaker"
          recourse
          1. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 25 September 2014 20: 50
            +7
            Something this "Icebreaker" resembles the scenery of a buffet theater. Meyerhold would have been jealous.
          2. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 25 September 2014 20: 57
            +7
            Quote: cosmos111
            from, another burp of ukrvpkprom
            info from: http: //twower.livejournal.com/1428475.html

            UAZ, named "Icebreaker"

            The installations from the corner look especially epic, it is immediately evident that the author was impressed by the post-apocalyptic fighters of Hollywood.
            1. dmitriygorshkov
              dmitriygorshkov 25 September 2014 23: 31
              +1
              Quote: Vladimirets
              Particularly epic look installations from the corner,

              And, most importantly, it’s very well placed (installations from the corner)! A shot from an RPG will not slip past, the charge will find the target!
          3. Vasek
            Vasek 25 September 2014 20: 59
            +8
            Quote: cosmos111
            here, another burp of ukrVPKprom

            wassat It seems that this is not armor, but armored paint. Otherwise, what's the point of painting tires on wheels?
            And the extra metal will not pull the "loaf", it is not very nimble in its own body.
            1. 12423 student
              12423 student 25 September 2014 22: 09
              +1
              Quote: Vasek
              And the extra metal will not pull the "loaf", it is not very nimble in its own body.

              Have you seriously believed that this is an armored car?
              This is a dummy, just for fun.
            2. The comment was deleted.
        2. olegnmnk
          olegnmnk 25 September 2014 20: 38
          +8
          a shishiga with an armored kungokabin, 7,62 bulletproof armor (armor-piercing) (except for the windows, I think). it seems that the swap is dumb, which means that booking will only increase the time for dying horrors.
          DShK and higher will generously season the filling.
        3. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 25 September 2014 20: 53
          +4
          Quote: AnpeL
          all sides are good for taking shots and shells

          That's why he is a policeman with stone protection.
          1. igordok
            igordok 25 September 2014 21: 51
            +6
            Green is not necessary?
            http://nyka-huldra.livejournal.com/7841800.html
            1. shershen
              shershen 25 September 2014 23: 49
              +1
              After the war, it will be possible to arrange a museum of enemy equipment in Donetsk, SAXON and other trophy poher will occupy an honorable place there.
          2. shershen
            shershen 25 September 2014 23: 47
            0
            Yes, for the peaceful streets of London, it will come down, but for combat conditions it’s a pure coffin.
      2. Sid.74
        Sid.74 25 September 2014 20: 17
        +13
        He holds only 7,62, everything else is his! Exploited mainly in warm countries and worked in police missions! Chasing protesters in Ireland is one thing but against armored personnel carriers, PTRS, PTRD and RPG militias nothing!
        1. Altona
          Altona 25 September 2014 20: 32
          +7
          Quote: Sid.74
          Chasing protesters in Ireland is one thing, but nothing against armored personnel carriers, PTRS, PTRD and RPG militias!

          ------------------------------
          The device was originally conceived for punitive and already has a corresponding history ... Punisher-mobile ...
          1. cosmos111
            cosmos111 25 September 2014 21: 42
            +2
            Quote: Altona
            ... Punisher mobile ...


            four-wheel (4x4) Saxon armored personnel carrier, a rudimentary armed armored vehicle with a primitive suspension, based on a design intended for use in security operations in Northern Ireland

            info s:http://www.army-guide.com/rus/article/article.php?forumID=478
            accurately written good !!!
        2. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov 25 September 2014 23: 36
          +2
          Quote: Sid.74
          He holds only 7,62,

          And then I think 7.62x51, with our 7.62x54, in armor-piercing performance, he will probably have problems, especially at the seams ....
        3. shershen
          shershen 25 September 2014 23: 51
          +1
          There is probably no armor, the British are famous goons.
      3. Nychego
        Nychego 25 September 2014 20: 38
        +6
        Quote: Zhekson
        the nose is good for taking RPG shots

        Well, the hohlomaster, after all, is also surrounded by lattices from a 20x20mm profile pipe, as the hohlobeters weighed.
        I would like to see a photo of what will result from the merger of the Hohlobreitan "genius".
      4. Grenader
        Grenader 25 September 2014 21: 22
        +4
        Quote: Zhekson
        oh what nose is good for taking RPG shots

        This armored personnel carrier is generally a grenade launcher's dream - high sides, the angle of the armor, the thickness of the armor. And from the cliff it will be sewn without problems. So let them use it.
      5. Gado
        Gado 25 September 2014 21: 59
        +5
        The first thought that arose in me. laughing
      6. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 25 September 2014 23: 04
        +1
        Quote: Zhekson
        for taking RPG shots

        PTRSs will pierce it on both sides. So is the "Cliff".
      7. kotyara
        kotyara 25 September 2014 23: 19
        +1
        Not just the nose! It is so square that RPG will accept with pleasure from any direction!
        1. shershen
          shershen 25 September 2014 23: 54
          +1
          For dill, this is more likely not a gift, but a pure setup.
      8. aviator_IAS
        aviator_IAS 25 September 2014 23: 38
        +2
        And the sides are even better. smile This ancient rattleteller has protection only against small arms, and is practically not armed. The machine gun on the turret does not count, because it is an empty place in comparison with KPVT and especially with 2A28 and 2A42. Plus, the BCH units are well equipped with a variety of anti-tank weapons. There and LNG and RPG and ATGM. Any rusty Soviet armored personnel carrier takes the Briton dry. So after all, the apparatus was not created as an army armored personnel carrier, but for police functions. Well, or the natives on the savannah drive.
        I doubt that the machine so weak in all respects will be sent to the Southeast. There, tanks with DZ are bundled. Rather, this unit is for internal use. Maidans 3,4,5 ... to disperse and hunger riots.
    3. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 25 September 2014 20: 03
      +13
      A good target for the militias ..! Large and visible from a distance .. Beginners will be taught the art of aiming ..))) good
      1. Hairy Siberian
        Hairy Siberian 25 September 2014 20: 09
        +7
        Quote: MIKHAN
        A good target for the militias ..! Large and visible from a distance .. Beginners will be taught the art of aiming ..)))

        Yes, the militias will immediately destroy, because he is very scary, that would capture him.
        Yes, and I doubt that it is intended to act against militias, rather, to disperse all kinds of Maidans.
        1. jjj
          jjj 25 September 2014 20: 41
          +4
          Quote: Hairy Siberian
          rather, that would disperse all sorts of Maidan

          And here, perhaps, the dog also rummaged
        2. samoletil18
          samoletil18 25 September 2014 22: 38
          +2
          Quote: Hairy Siberian
          rather, that would disperse all sorts of Maidan

          Due to the revealed circumstances with the mass graves of civilians, this information, to put it mildly, is very annoying.
    4. Vasek
      Vasek 25 September 2014 20: 07
      +1
      Quote: DRA-88
      kakly continue to arm themselves

      Something is not visible on him any weapons ...
      Or was it specially removed so that ukrovityaz foolishly did not level up?
      1. CALL.
        CALL. 25 September 2014 20: 12
        0
        Since the late 1990s, all Saxon armored personnel carriers have been removed from service by the British army, and currently 147 decommissioned stored armored personnel carriers are offered for sale by the UK Department of Defense.

        God is on you that we are no good.
      2. shershen
        shershen 25 September 2014 23: 55
        0
        Well this is a cop APC.
    5. lelikas
      lelikas 25 September 2014 20: 10
      +2
      I am sure that the militia is already coming up with who and how will paint its Saxons.
      1. Revolver
        Revolver 25 September 2014 20: 30
        +1
        Quote: lelikas
        I am sure that the militia is already coming up with who and how will paint its Saxons.

        Why paint? Earlier than winter will not arrive. Judging by the photo, they are painted white - that's the thing for winter. And by the spring you look and motor resource will end - how much is left, and so much used.
    6. svp67
      svp67 25 September 2014 20: 12
      +5
      Quote: DRA-88
      continue to arm themselves and this is no longer funny !!!
      Yes, it's not funny, because under this "noise" and under various coverings, UAVs, modern devices for artillery reconnaissance and artillery fire control, etc. are being supplied to Ukraine. etc. And now this is EXACTLY NOT FUNNY, by the spring, that is, for a new round they will be able to prepare specialists who know how to handle this good ... No matter how you have to "examine" again ...
      1. Lopatov
        Lopatov 25 September 2014 20: 36
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        by spring, that is, by the new round, they will be able to prepare specialists who can handle this good ...

        Come on ... For half a year this can not be done. They have neither the time nor the means to do this. Roughly speaking, if you have a hacksaw for metal in your hands, then it is absolutely plane-parallel how accurate your micrometer is.
        1. svp67
          svp67 25 September 2014 20: 46
          +3
          Quote: Spade
          Come on ... For half a year this can not be done.
          God grant that. Worse, they can invite the "legionnaires", since the "goodness" is imported ... And there is still a lot of time until March, they can try to prepare ... especially since the same "legionnaires" provide their bases and training centers for preparation, and "business travelers" from the Armed Forces of Ukraine, already there, are already studying.
          1. Lopatov
            Lopatov 25 September 2014 20: 58
            +1
            Even so is not an option. All will have to be raised: communications, ballistics, meteorology, the trunks of the shot people to change, the calculations to drag. To buy the sea of ​​everything ...

            And with the "legionnaires" there are also big problems, they must be super pro, because their artillery is built on a fundamentally different ideology, even the angles in artillery are different for us and for them.
      2. shershen
        shershen 25 September 2014 23: 57
        0
        I agree that the "buyer" of Novorossiya land, rich in gas, will not just give it away.
    7. Giant thought
      Giant thought 25 September 2014 20: 21
      +2
      The decommissioned NATO equipment is flowing to Ukraine, and the militias will soon be.
    8. Juborg
      Juborg 25 September 2014 20: 23
      +4
      This is not weapons, but the collection of scrap metal throughout Europe. It’s unprofitable for Europeans to dispose of, because they sold this scrap as normal equipment and welded in on this matter.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 25 September 2014 20: 35
        +5
        some volunteers from Ukraine agreed to purchase and deliver to Ukraine 50 retired British AT-105 Saxon armored personnel carriers.

        I do not understand, is that in order to dill in them have sex? The name of these APCs is intriguing. smile
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 25 September 2014 21: 17
          0
          Do you know what they look like? On large wheeled refrigerators. From the point of view of the Ukrosiloviks, there is already no trust in the land - remember the story of the recently excavated burial place of civilians. So maybe they plan to hide the ends in the water in these boxes?
        2. dmitriygorshkov
          dmitriygorshkov 25 September 2014 23: 46
          +1
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          I do not understand, is that in order to dill in them have sex?

          lol , judging by their statements, they have "Lyazhkov" more and more!
          Well, as the saying goes: “Whatever the Khokhlovostvo is doing, as long as it doesn’t go to normal girls!” Better to use each other in these mobile brothels!
          If only the gate was not suddenly opened smile ), otherwise it may not become Eurointegrated from the seen picture !!!
        3. shershen
          shershen 26 September 2014 00: 00
          +1
          and these sinful little tinted windows ...
    9. DMB3000
      DMB3000 25 September 2014 21: 31
      0
      this is in the village a dig garden just right
      1. Hairy Siberian
        Hairy Siberian 25 September 2014 22: 32
        +4
        Quote: cosmos111
        here, another burp of ukrVPKprom

        Here is the latest news:
        1. shershen
          shershen 26 September 2014 00: 02
          +2
          to cover this crap with cotton blankets and set fire - they themselves will come out
        2. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 26 September 2014 11: 08
          +1
          Hmmm ... the most interesting thing is that while the "Kiev" are brewing enclosures around their armored personnel carriers, the "Donetsk" and "Luhansk" are armed with heavy machine guns, against which the screens on a light BTT are needed "like an umbrella fish".
    10. shershen
      shershen 25 September 2014 23: 44
      +1
      Another "coffin on wheels" for dill from their "overseas friends".
  2. Belarus
    Belarus 25 September 2014 19: 51
    +7
    The militia will check them and if they like, they will leave it to themselves!
  3. Stypor23
    Stypor23 25 September 2014 19: 53
    +3
    Creatures also sell for a penny.
  4. Akvadra
    Akvadra 25 September 2014 19: 53
    +3
    Not a car, but some kind of target. I don’t know how military equipment is, but the owners of English cars are unhappy - they cannot stand our conditions. Welcome !
  5. pensioner
    pensioner 25 September 2014 19: 54
    +4
    Freak to freak, dab to dab. Here is the complete set and typed ...
  6. Wiruz
    Wiruz 25 September 2014 19: 54
    +3
    Until the first dirt laughing
  7. kind
    kind 25 September 2014 19: 55
    +6
    I haven’t seen an uglier car yet. The target of it is great! So Ukraine will buy garbage from European garbage dumps.
    1. typhoon7
      typhoon7 25 September 2014 20: 17
      +13
      I agree, PTRS cries for it, and RPG will be offended by such a goal. laughing
  8. gas113
    gas113 25 September 2014 19: 55
    +3
    good tin pickle dill
  9. Alan
    Alan 25 September 2014 19: 55
    +3
    As soon as weapons from the west go to Ukraine, Putin is simply obliged to supply the armaments of New Russia. (I would like to believe that it will be so.)
    1. TiGRoO
      TiGRoO 25 September 2014 21: 31
      0
      With connecting you)
      Weapons from the west have been going on for a long time and our Voentorg has been working steadily for about 2 months. soldier
  10. Bassoon
    Bassoon 25 September 2014 20: 00
    +6
    Our armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles love to call coffins. In this case, Saxon is a coffin in a cube. Ours can not snap like that from KPVT and shooters, and this is a miracle of technology, judging by the pictures, no.
    1. uwzek
      uwzek 25 September 2014 20: 09
      +4
      But there is an elegant platform for skakniya on the roof of the work. And also a real opportunity drank dibs on a deal meaningless from a military point of view.
  11. Michael_59
    Michael_59 25 September 2014 20: 00
    +20
    Yes, here is such an "armored car" for you, fascists, straight to hell.
  12. BOB044
    BOB044 25 September 2014 20: 02
    +6
    And I have three wheeled bicycles on the balcony. Maybe the Armed Forces of Ukraine can be sold for reconnaissance. battalion. Let them go can quickly disappear. pancake.
  13. flSergius
    flSergius 25 September 2014 20: 05
    +6
    It is immediately evident that the car is not a military one but a police one: there is no space for installing weapons, there is zero view, and most importantly, a tall shed with armor without rational angles. The transmission is open to all winds. So that to me in WOT under the landmines only such went wink

    In short, not Saxon, but Suckson should have been called laughing
    1. avt
      avt 25 September 2014 20: 12
      +2
      Quote: flSergius
      It’s immediately clear that the car is not a military one but a police one: there is no place for the installation of weapons,

      And he had a machine-gun turret on top and provided for a self-propelled mortar on it when he was in service with the army of small Britain.
  14. fzr1000
    fzr1000 25 September 2014 20: 05
    +3
    It is all the same that the Urals to send riot police to the front lines send. Well, maybe IT will live a little longer.
  15. Black
    Black 25 September 2014 20: 06
    +2
    As expected. All the old stuff to visit them. This is given in order not to win, but to fight. The fence still enclose, I ask to the table, boiled !!!
  16. Cap.nemo58rus
    Cap.nemo58rus 25 September 2014 20: 08
    +2
    Armored car "Mass Grave".
  17. Stypor23
    Stypor23 25 September 2014 20: 08
    +7
    Guys, and the Israelis are still armed with the M113, you must admit that the machine is also not small. However, skepticism is not appropriate, after all, it’s not a UAZ lined with glands, this Saxon.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 25 September 2014 20: 13
      +11
      Only he looks like that nonche -
    2. fzr1000
      fzr1000 25 September 2014 20: 13
      +6
      Well, there our trophy tanks are redone for the needs, and Centurions, and American junk. Jews are zealous owners. It is only we who can cut combat-ready equipment for scrap.
      1. Stypor23
        Stypor23 25 September 2014 20: 17
        +2
        Quote: fzr1000
        Well, there our trophy tanks are redone for the needs, and Centurions, and American junk. Jews are zealous owners. It is only we who can cut combat-ready equipment for scrap.

        Here. See how. The Arabs drove for beautiful eyes, and the Jews squeezed them out and tuned in full. And they are careful. What is called, feel the difference and attitude to your work.
    3. flSergius
      flSergius 25 September 2014 20: 46
      +2
      So the Israeli army is one of the best in the world due to constant practice. And dill burned in tanks in a clean field, where the tank should feel like a fox in a chicken coop. It is the Jews who make from (even from) M113 candy, and not vice versa.
    4. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 25 September 2014 23: 12
      +3
      Quote: Stypor23
      and the Israelis are still armed with the M113

      So they are literate and do not go to battle on it. We arrived at the battlefield, brought infantry to the side. They were not originally developed for battles. M 113 is an armored personnel carrier, not an infantry fighting vehicle.
      For some reason, it’s not customary for us in the cinema to publish the memoirs of artillerymen, how they threw out Germans with high-explosive 76 mm shells from German armored personnel carriers. Most criticize how our tank infantry went into battle. And let's remember, our infantry in Afghanistan went inside the armored personnel carriers? No ... why? Yes, after the first bombings, they realized that sitting on an armored personnel carrier was easier to survive undermining than inside. But then the Germans also went into battle in tanks, and not in armored personnel carriers, as at the beginning of the war.
  18. Imperial
    Imperial 25 September 2014 20: 09
    +10
    In the meantime, these are)))
    1. Miron64
      Miron64 25 September 2014 20: 47
      +4
      The miracle of dill! wassat laughing
    2. Bor
      Bor 25 September 2014 22: 57
      0
      For a walk, for a barbecue on such a good ride ...
  19. sledgehammer
    sledgehammer 25 September 2014 20: 10
    +3
    if this continues to be the case, then Poroshenko will ask NATO aviation to bombard some settlements. And what? If already in the open dill is equipped with armored vehicles.
    honestly, all this Ukraine is already starting to suck up ... eh, I would have to gasp a cruise missile in the Verkhovna Rada at the moment when Poroshenko will be there, or an ESCANDER, I think just one missile would be enough to destroy everyone at once, the warhead is normal, it’s somewhat hundreds of KG in TNT equivalent.
    1. olegkrava
      olegkrava 25 September 2014 20: 21
      +1
      Give the dvoechik letech, does it all right, write off the lack of professionalism of this letekha. Praise and send to the Moscow district. Amen.
    2. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 25 September 2014 23: 20
      +1
      Quote: Sledgehammer
      eh, to cruel the Verkhovna Rada with a cruise missile

      And to say that they fired at an airplane, but missed a lot, especially since new tanks in Russia "shoot a hundred kilometers" and hit.
  20. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 25 September 2014 20: 15
    +10
    Mlyn, Ukrainians are collecting junk all over the world, some "Ukrainian volunteers" have reached an agreement in principle to purchase and supply to Ukraine 50 decommissioned British AT-105 Saxon 4x4 armored personnel carriers, at a cost of one car of 57 thousand dollars. The cost of the entire contract is estimated at 40 million hryvnia (about $ 2,85 million).
    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/1005607.html

    The AT-105 Saxon armored personnel carrier was developed in the 1970s by the British company GKN Defense and was a variation of the AT-104 police armored personnel carrier, using the same Bedford M truck chassis. AT-105 has been mass-produced since 1976. The British Army in 1982-1991 acquired 665 Saxon armored personnel carriers as a "cheap" "mechanization" solution to equip six infantry battalions and some auxiliary units and services. About 170 Saxons were exported in the 1970s and 1980s, mainly for police forces. Since the late 1990s, all Saxon armored personnel carriers have been removed from service by the British army, and at present 147 decommissioned armored personnel carriers are offered for sale by the UK Department of Defense, and a significant number of vehicles are offered by various British and American companies.



    The most interesting thing is that the main purpose of the AT-105 was service in Northern Ireland, where the IRA fighters could only oppose it with IEDs and "Molotov cocktails", at best, automatic rifles. Now the Ukrainians are going to send it to the South-East, where its height (2,6 m for comparison with the BTR-80-2, 35 m) will serve as an easy target for the militia grant-planners. Plus weak armament, the British installed one 105, 7 mm L62A7 machine gun on the AT-1 Saxon, i.e. you can install a PKT, while the armored personnel carrier intended to roll over when firing. At the present time, such weapons are rather "non-kosher", so the Ukrainians will try to fit the NSV-12,7 "Utes" or DShK or even KPVT into the armored personnel carrier. Plus, the bolts in the inch system are not very suitable for the nuts in the metric system, those. there is a problem with spare parts. Those. out of 60 vehicles, only 30 will go into battle, at best 40, and the rest will become "donors" for subsequent "cannibalization" ...
    In general, we are waiting for the AT-105 Saxon with the proud DPR inscription ...
    1. AlNikolaich
      AlNikolaich 25 September 2014 20: 57
      +5
      I agree, Roman! And inch fasteners are not so bad!
      Bedford has long sunk into oblivion! God forbid piston
      will end, the gearbox or gearbox will fly (or maybe
      God forbid!)
      And the DNI army does not have such a trophy!
      In scrap metal!
      PS on the next branch they write about the sale of NATO
      Sukhpayev from Ukraine to China! I think this miracle of gloomy
      British genius, soon the same will be resold
      somewhere ...
      1. serega.fedotov
        serega.fedotov 25 September 2014 21: 21
        +2
        A good car is not called such a censored word!
        And in general, a car of rare ugliness, the National Guard is just right.
      2. wanderer_032
        wanderer_032 26 September 2014 07: 28
        +1
        I can add that after prolonged storage these machines already require, if not overhaul, then average for sure.
        The remainder of the service life of these "miracle horses" is also in question, so
        Anything can "fly" with a great deal of surprise.
        I completely agree here.
        In short, for nats.gadov it will still be that "gift". At the level of the old BRDM-2 and BTR-60.
  21. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 25 September 2014 20: 15
    +3
    These machines were used to disperse demonstrators ... They are not intended for warfare ...
    1. Stypor23
      Stypor23 25 September 2014 20: 19
      +4
      Quote: The Cat
      These machines were used to disperse demonstrators ... They are not intended for warfare ...

      IRA very successfully ... burned them shorter. Northern Ireland throw off the shackles of pen.dos.of.skie!
  22. MIV999
    MIV999 25 September 2014 20: 18
    +3
    The swastika of "volunteer" battalions on these boxes will look organic - the Nazis will definitely not deny themselves this "pleasure" am ...
    But it's not for long yes ...
    Soon we will see this English squalor "in a cut" ... in a disassembled, broken-down form - the militias will not deny themselves this pleasure soldier ...
  23. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 25 September 2014 20: 18
    +3
    in the presence of such armored vehicles, even the most Svidomo banderlogs will mow from the army.
  24. special
    special 25 September 2014 20: 18
    +4
    Another scrap metal ... Well, you don’t need us ...
  25. zulus222
    zulus222 25 September 2014 20: 21
    +5
    this Saxon armored personnel carrier probably burns well. need to check!
  26. awersa
    awersa 25 September 2014 20: 22
    +4
    “Pan Colonel, what will protect us ???”
    “No, of course, but you don’t have to collect your pieces around!”
  27. La hire
    La hire 25 September 2014 20: 25
    +2
    And what is the point of buying these ancient cans? Is it because of the price? Or to raise morale, like, "Zakordon help us"?
    Ozimbabwil at all.
  28. tupolev-95
    tupolev-95 25 September 2014 20: 25
    +4
    It’s hard to miss such a coffin. Now the main thing is to push more national troops inside.
  29. Romass
    Romass 25 September 2014 20: 25
    +2
    Yes, already. For write seven pieces - coffins on wheels - ZT current dill I can draw nonsense dill. Heroam - hera with fat.
  30. awersa
    awersa 25 September 2014 20: 26
    +3
    good gas chamber for ukrov
  31. tashyl
    tashyl 25 September 2014 20: 26
    +4
    The main thing is that it will protect from rain and go for a beer. A nice, in general, a coffin for the natsgadikov
  32. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 25 September 2014 20: 27
    +5
    The only thing that will save the junta in this situation is aviation (USA) with carpet bombing of Novorossiya and Russia .. That sounds fantastic .. But the most interesting thing is that Parashenko is getting this from the United States ..! I hope for a "truce" charges were brought to the Grads with a reserve and the equipment was repaired and the crews were taught ... And there are quilted jackets in the warehouses ... Winter is coming!))))
  33. ISKANDER25
    ISKANDER25 25 September 2014 20: 32
    +3
    Hello! HOPPING becomes a dumping ground for overseas scrap! laughing
  34. parafoiler
    parafoiler 25 September 2014 20: 32
    +2
    And these Saxons will burn like nice ones.
    1. shershen
      shershen 26 September 2014 00: 09
      0
      Molotov rules!
  35. Grach710
    Grach710 25 September 2014 20: 35
    +2
    Well, all the kirdyk militia has arrived. X..hly on the NATO metal are moving forward. It’s interesting where the Soviet boxes went to. It’s gone to the Khokhlam. am
  36. awersa
    awersa 25 September 2014 20: 41
    +2
    here you have free trade with the EU - Ukraine is the dump of Europe for its loot
  37. Timmir
    Timmir 25 September 2014 20: 43
    +3
    Yellow pants are attached to this pepelats. Great Ukrainians will dress them and they will spit on everyone from above.
  38. muhomor
    muhomor 25 September 2014 20: 43
    +3
    Are normal APCs over? Well, I won’t believe it!
  39. Miron64
    Miron64 25 September 2014 20: 45
    +2
    Quote: olegnmnk
    a shishiga with an armored kungokabin, 7,62 bulletproof armor (armor-piercing) (except for the windows, I think).
    DShK and higher will season the filling well.
    This is not Shishiga but a loaf. Shishiga is a GAZ 66.
  40. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 25 September 2014 20: 48
    +4
    Dream armor.
  41. vodolaz
    vodolaz 25 September 2014 20: 50
    +3
    Oh, new targets)))
  42. KBR109
    KBR109 25 September 2014 20: 57
    +3
    Good car. For the Britons: no need to spend money on recycling, getting small but money, a beautiful gesture, helped developing democracy. For ukrovlasty: like armored vehicles, please. The National Guard will no longer say that it is fighting on buses. Cut the military budget at kickbacks for officials. Militias: a hefty barn with armor breaking through from 7.62 and above. Convenient to train grenade throwers.
    1. shershen
      shershen 26 September 2014 00: 11
      -2
      As a shed in the country, you can use it under garden tools. The tricolor on the roof only needs to be put.
      And if you add a bucket, you can clean the snow in the village in winter, and it will be convenient to pick mushrooms on it - protection against mosquitoes and ticks.
  43. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 25 September 2014 21: 04
    +1
    Guys, put a plus on this text only for the fact that laughter takes from moronism ukrovoyak (or rather their superiors)! I have a feeling that I will be able to suck them in the "UAZ" cod-covered with iron under the guise of "weapons of retaliation" laughing Naturally, I’m not going to do this, and I consider the attempts of hohlopiteks to acquire iron rabble from around the world as a testing ground for testing the armor penetration of domestic weapons, plus as attempts by the Khokhlov’s fighter to somehow make up for the losses from the fire of the militias of New Russia.
    data of the type "armored personnel carriers" are typical police weapons and in an attempt to put them on the armament of the Natsiks, only the meaning of increasing the number of common coffins for the Nazis is visible!
    Glory to Russia! soldier hi
    1. Yaroslav Saf
      Yaroslav Saf 25 September 2014 21: 43
      0
      The top does not fight. Someone decided to clear the territory, for settlement, by another, curly-haired population.
  44. Alexander
    Alexander 25 September 2014 21: 06
    -2
    Soon in service with the army of New Russia.
    1. shershen
      shershen 26 September 2014 00: 13
      +2
      Well, here's another, pick up all the English shit, we will give the army of New Russia what better.
  45. pvv113
    pvv113 25 September 2014 21: 07
    +3
    Volunteers from Ukraine agree on the purchase and delivery to Ukraine of 50 decommissioned British armored personnel carriers

    They can’t deal with their landfills, so now they still collect trash around the world
  46. mitrich
    mitrich 25 September 2014 21: 07
    0
    Well, all the same, compared to the Icebreaker, this is a Rolls Royce in a military version. And they will be dissected by the visible elite of the ukropiteks - the National Guard and the good battalions. And on the icebreakers and other ukroapreyde, working cattle in the person of conscripted ukroarmii. That is to say, a clear class bundle ....
    Although, in the next world they will turn out to be one edge and everyone there will be equal.
  47. TOR2
    TOR2 25 September 2014 21: 10
    +1
    Campaign is just a "trial balloon".
    some volunteers from Ukraine agreed to purchase and deliver to Ukraine 50 retired British AT-105 Saxon armored personnel carriers.

    And about volunteers, this is from a series of bedtime stories.
  48. Target
    Target 25 September 2014 21: 14
    0
    We would have such a car, go fishing just right. laughing
  49. Stinger
    Stinger 25 September 2014 21: 14
    0
    Dill has come. Now they will dump all the trash from friendly Europe at the cost of disposal. Well, for one thing, they will strengthen the outpost of the struggle for democracy against the bloody invasion of a neighboring unfriendly state. The Saxons from the trade live. And the car needs to be renamed. "Coffin with music" of English manufacture will do, perhaps. With brushes and brocade.
  50. sv68
    sv68 25 September 2014 21: 15
    0
    Who will push their next armored car to Kiev? wassat
    1. Denis fj
      Denis fj 25 September 2014 23: 02
      +6
      next will be GERMANY !! light and shunting armored cars laughing