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"New York Times": Kiev exchanged money for prisoners of war of people not related to the militia

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Kiev security officials exchanged for prisoners of war not only the militia, but also people gathered from the streets and never taken in hand weaponsRIA reports News with reference to the newspaper "New York Times".

"New York Times": Kiev exchanged money for prisoners of war of people not related to the militia


The newspaper publication states: “at first glance, the exchange of prisoners between the militias and Kiev was fair: under the attentive gaze of OSCE intermediaries, both sides freed 28 people, ex-prisoners, after which questions began to arise.”

The militia, according to the publication, released the real military, captured during the fighting, but the Ukrainians brought for exchange "a group of men, women and teenagers dressed in tracksuits and dirty clothes, which were sent, as they say, from prisons from distant Kiev. " The newspaper writes that, most likely, this was done “due to the lack of prisoners to fulfill the conditions of the one-on-one exchange”.

The publication emphasizes that the people released by Kiev then told the reporter that they had never fought and did not know why they had become participants in this event.

"I am a civilian and became a member only in order to collect the necessary number, - said Nikita Podikov, 17-year-old, detained by Ukrainian soldiers two weeks ago in the city, near which the battles took place. - I was accused of belonging to the militia, although I never participated in the battles and did not kill anyone. ”

It turned out that only 7 people from 28-mi, released by Kiev, were in fact militia fighters. "Some former prisoners were detained several months ago in different parts of Ukraine for participating in protests calling for autonomy in eastern Ukraine and for distributing campaign leaflets"- writes the author of the publication.

Recall that an agreement on the exchange of prisoners of war was reached by the parties at the talks held in Minsk on September 5.
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  1. domokl
    domokl 25 September 2014 11: 38
    +7
    Better late than never ... Only few people read this article ... Brains are washed there too. Not only in Krajina
    1. ShturmKGB
      ShturmKGB 25 September 2014 12: 11
      +6
      yes pi .. are they dill ... deceit and live ...
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 25 September 2014 12: 27
      +1
      Ukrainians, as always, seek to gain a freebie.
      1. Akvadra
        Akvadra 25 September 2014 13: 41
        +1
        Quote: Giant thought
        Ukrainians, as always, seek to gain a freebie.

        They must hohlyatskih Gaster palm in return. Let them babysit themselves.
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. nizrum
      nizrum 25 September 2014 12: 32
      +8
      I'm more interested in why dill has no prisoners.

      Only conclusions are requested:
      1) they do not take prisoners ...
      2) prisoners do not live to see the exchange ...
      3) the militias are not surrendered.
      1. Aleksander
        Aleksander 25 September 2014 13: 22
        +1
        All three points are fair, IMHO.
        1. jjj
          jjj 25 September 2014 13: 33
          0
          Quote: Aleksander
          All three points are fair, IMHO.

          Most likely it is
        2. Tyumen
          Tyumen 25 September 2014 13: 33
          0
          * It turned out that only 7 of the 28 people released by Kiev were militia fighters. *
          Quote: Aleksander
          All three points are fair, IMHO.
  2. Mihail1982
    Mihail1982 25 September 2014 11: 39
    +4
    Really, the first glimpses of objectivity!
    1. skylare
      skylare 25 September 2014 11: 46
      +2
      Dreaming is not harmful, however.
    2. operrus
      operrus 25 September 2014 12: 14
      +5
      The fact that glimpses are good, but I’m interested in other soldiers of real militias are often shot, and when exchanged, they get them alive and healthy. Something needs to be done with such exchanges in order to stimulate their normal attitude towards captive militias, otherwise such unequal exchanges will continue and then they will always be able to recruit any people and exchange them for war, and shoot real prisoners.
      1. Separatist
        Separatist 25 September 2014 13: 39
        0
        Dill does not want to provide lists of prisoners of war.
        If there were lists and exchanges took place on them, there would be no left detentions and frauds, all the warriors of New Russia would be alive and wait for their turn to exchange
    3. operrus
      operrus 25 September 2014 12: 14
      +1
      The fact that glimpses are good, but I’m interested in other soldiers of real militias are often shot, and when exchanged, they get them alive and healthy. Something needs to be done with such exchanges in order to stimulate their normal attitude towards captive militias, otherwise such unequal exchanges will continue and then they will always be able to recruit any people and exchange them for war, and shoot real prisoners.
      1. ed65b
        ed65b 25 September 2014 12: 35
        +1
        Quote: operrus
        Something needs to be done with such exchanges in order to stimulate their normal attitude towards captive militias, otherwise such unequal exchanges will continue and then they will always be able to recruit any people and exchange them for war, and shoot real prisoners.

        To warn and then give a couple of times pieces of meat that are barely breathing, it may come then. And in this form, it is advisable to give only officers as a major. It is also indicative of the execution of sadists from the SBU in Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, and where else where the arms of the DRG reach.
        1. Tyumen
          Tyumen 25 September 2014 13: 37
          0
          Quote: ed65b
          It is also significant to execute sadists from the SBU

          And thereby confirm the Kiev slander about militia beasts?
      2. mamont5
        mamont5 25 September 2014 14: 16
        0
        Quote: operrus
        The fact that glimpses are good, but I’m interested in other soldiers of real militias are often shot, and when exchanged, they get them alive and healthy. Something needs to be done with such exchanges in order to stimulate their normal attitude towards captive militias, otherwise such unequal exchanges will continue and then they will always be able to recruit any people and exchange them for war, and shoot real prisoners.


        And who to stimulate? They have how many of all these armed formations and each has its own boss and master. And each for himself.
    4. Nychego
      Nychego 25 September 2014 12: 22
      0
      Quote: Michael1982
      Really, the first glimpses of objectivity!

      It's just that this article is one in a thousand false and will not radically affect the perception of events in Hohland by the Americans. The reader of N-YT is a serious person and needs reliable information, which the editorial staff provides him with and dosed.
      It is also very important on which page the article was posted - the N-YT newspaper is thick and not everyone reads it beyond the fifth page, restricting itself further to viewing headlines.

      The main contribution to the formation of the view on the phenomena of this world of the average Homer Simpson is made by TV, as in the events of the film "The Tail Wagging the Dog" with D. Hoffman as a PR swindler. I don’t know what the American people think on TV about the liberation war of Novorossiya.
    5. Lelek
      Lelek 25 September 2014 12: 25
      +2
      Quote: Michael1982
      Really, the first glimpses of objectivity!


      Dreaming. This is an accident from a prolonged yawning. Bored by them (US media), fat people.
  3. Roman1970
    Roman1970 25 September 2014 11: 39
    +1
    Well, take them to the bathhouse, this is the Kiev government. They obviously lack decency.
    1. Drednout
      Drednout 25 September 2014 11: 48
      +3
      Quote: Roman1970
      They obviously lack decency

      Taunted dear. Decency and the current Kiev government !!! ??? You still look for decency in the white house.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 25 September 2014 11: 49
      +3
      Quote: Roman1970
      They obviously lack decency.

      What are you talking about??? Decency is not something that is missing, it is simply completely absent, however, as an honor and conscience.
    3. Armax
      Armax 25 September 2014 12: 20
      0
      These governors still on the Maidan for cookies sold.
      Civilians substitute tortured prisoners for death.
  4. RusDV
    RusDV 25 September 2014 11: 39
    +2
    "New York Times": Kiev exchanged money for prisoners of war of people not related to the militia

    Well, what are you, "The New York Times", so dishonoring your fosterlings ....?
    The saber of the mattress ambassador will no longer be handed over to the Kievites on his knees, but only on one .... they will remember ....
    1. BARKAS
      BARKAS 25 September 2014 11: 48
      0
      As a rule, authors of such articles in the West, especially in North America, then have problems with work and have to justify themselves even by writing a refutation.
  5. RUSS
    RUSS 25 September 2014 11: 40
    0
    Here's what to do? Refuse such an exchange?
    1. domokl
      domokl 25 September 2014 11: 47
      +1
      In no case ... People who are being changed are now living with the only hope ... Failure and ... there are no more people. And everyone has friends, relatives. And each of these former prisoners will tell what and how. There is no better agitation.
      And the second point. And what to do with captive dill? They also need to be fed, maintained and protected ... That is. some camps need to be created. And is it relevant now?
      So it is necessary to change under any circumstances.
      1. 12423 student
        12423 student 25 September 2014 12: 19
        0
        Quote: domokl
        And the second point. And what to do with captive dill?

        Can they make them work? Let them repair it, or is it useless, and they are not organically capable of work?
      2. The comment was deleted.
      3. demon184
        demon184 25 September 2014 12: 21
        0
        What camps? Let restore the destroyed and only then the exchange, if not involved in the killings of civilians.
  6. albi77
    albi77 25 September 2014 11: 41
    +1
    Did this newspaper write exactly?
    They haven’t fired the editor yet? it's just weird ...
    1. RusDV
      RusDV 25 September 2014 11: 54
      0
      Quote: albi77
      Did this newspaper write exactly?
      They haven’t fired the editor yet? it's just weird ...

      the mattresses, and indeed in the West, to deceive in the transaction - the highest valor .... here they say what we have extra feeding, who do you want to cheat ....
  7. EvgenSuslov
    EvgenSuslov 25 September 2014 11: 41
    +1
    The release of activists is also good. If this goes on, the Ukrainians will begin to change already random passers-by.
    1. svp67
      svp67 25 September 2014 11: 47
      0
      Quote: EvgenSuslov
      If this goes on, the Ukrainians will begin to change already random passers-by.
      By and large, it already is. The SBU is chewing bread for a reason, and they have data on a VERY many people who have had the "pleasure" to "light up" in "anti-marching speeches." And for this it was enough just to stand at the rally ... everything got hooked and tested. In general, it would not hurt the militia to publish a list of whom they wanted to receive and did not receive, whom they received and their qualitative characteristics, who is a militia, who is an activist, who is just a sympathizer, at least in percentage and who was given in exchange for this ...
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 25 September 2014 11: 42
    +1
    "New York Times": Kiev exchanged money for prisoners of war of people not related to the militia
    "New York Times" - so condemn Kiev .. once convicted of deceit ...
  9. pahom54
    pahom54 25 September 2014 11: 43
    +4
    No matter how sad and cynical, but the "shortage" of captured militias for exchange most likely suggests that, if they are captured, ukrosaDyugi are simply destroyed after torture ...
    I don’t know why, but I’m sure of it ... And if these facts are confirmed, then the militias need to draw the appropriate conclusions ...
    1. Aleksander
      Aleksander 25 September 2014 13: 30
      0
      I think so too .. Konstantin Rogov (Novorossiya) said that somewhere around 1300 militias should be held captive. And there are not even similar numbers ..
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  10. Russ69
    Russ69 25 September 2014 11: 44
    +5
    Militias need to provide lists. whom they need to free. How many people SBU rake in due time. The same Kharkov ones can be demanded to be freed, Topaz and others
    1. smith7
      smith7 25 September 2014 11: 52
      0
      Something seems to me that the personnel record of the militia is not as good as in the regular armed forces. Even if they themselves talk about the regular army of Novorossiya, it hasn't been enough time to create a clear list of names. Even in the Red Army in 1941 there was a wild confusion with regard to the l / s consumption, not to the "bayonet" for sure. And so "the lists of whom to free from the dill" ... ???
  11. Bear13
    Bear13 25 September 2014 11: 44
    +2
    And this already smacks of kidnapping, the taking of civil hostages, and not prisoners of war. Well, when will the second Nuremberg? !!!
    1. RusDV
      RusDV 25 September 2014 11: 48
      +1
      Quote: Bear13
      Well, when will the second Nuremberg? !!!

      it can be canceled ... due to the lack of defendants .... poor health turned out to be ....
  12. umka_
    umka_ 25 September 2014 11: 46
    +1
    Lied completely, completely betrayal and meanness. However, democracy is American.
  13. DV69
    DV69 25 September 2014 11: 46
    +3
    In my opinion, this behavior of the Kiev authorities is explained extremely simply.
    1. New Russia simply has more captive punishers than punitive captive militias.
    2. Unfortunately, not all captured militias, activists and anti-fascists survived until the exchange began.
    1. wladimir
      wladimir 25 September 2014 11: 52
      0
      I agree completely, thieves are thieves. How can you negotiate with them for a little while, they are initially set up for deception.
  14. Altona
    Altona 25 September 2014 11: 51
    +1
    Yes, Kuev uses the basics of the arithmetic of a Ukrainian ensign, “then, it’s stolen, then we’re pidmenimo” and like “they won’t pidmanka” ... Such is their naive trick when exchanging ...
  15. panfil
    panfil 25 September 2014 12: 01
    +2
    All the same, it is a good thing to free innocent people from the dungeons of punishers. In addition, this once again proves a more effective tactics and strategy of the militias - they fight against the ruins not by numbers, but by skill, directly according to Suvorov. Honor to them for this and glory!
  16. Iskras
    Iskras 25 September 2014 12: 02
    +1
    Dill killed the militias, and that’s not enough prisoners. Fiends!
  17. navara399
    navara399 25 September 2014 12: 02
    0
    Strange, maybe this is not a complete excerpt from the article of this mattress newspaper, it should have written that Putin was to blame again.
  18. MuadDib
    MuadDib 25 September 2014 12: 06
    0
    I would not flatter myself at the expense of the OSCE mission and the Western media. They are still fed from the hands of Washington. A dog will never bite a feeding hand.
  19. Viktor Kudinov
    Viktor Kudinov 25 September 2014 12: 08
    0
    If there are not enough captured militias to exchange, then maybe they should take rabbits?
  20. SeAl2014
    SeAl2014 25 September 2014 12: 14
    0
    Let the prisoners be exchanged: at least for prisoners, at least for gas, at least for coal.
  21. Wolka
    Wolka 25 September 2014 12: 20
    0
    Ukrainians, in their repertoire, as always, they lived on deceit and still live, and they still want to be respected in the world negative
  22. aleks700
    aleks700 25 September 2014 12: 29
    0
    In any case, the people who participated in the protests against the junta are freed. And thank God.
  23. kotev19
    kotev19 25 September 2014 12: 51
    0
    Probably Kiev is very funny that people from Novorossiya are left as "fools"! Well, what will it look like if they catch several of their "pumpkins" that hang around Moscow (and Moscow is also an operational zone !!!), peck seeds, make propaganda and bring them for exchange? Will it be funny or will they howl again?
  24. cidr777
    cidr777 25 September 2014 13: 23
    0
    Pig nation.
  25. ISKANDER25
    ISKANDER25 25 September 2014 14: 29
    0
    Hello! Here are the Herods who are doing it, and you won’t leave the juntas peaceful in the clutches! Have you muddied something to get your soldiers and them back to the ATO ?! Well, hohlrasts! am
  26. Levhav
    Levhav 25 September 2014 15: 00
    0
    After this, some of those released may indeed go to the militia.
  27. tasey
    tasey 25 September 2014 18: 39
    0
    Guys! "Turn on" MOZH! Captive homosexuals still give up (after all, you need to feed, but for what h ... m?) And the fact that the downs grab and pass, like prisoners, an outside civilian population - can not but rejoice. This means - WARRIORS OF NEW RUSSIA DO NOT GET IN THIS NUMBER OF POWERS! Bravo to the guys.
  28. valentina-makanalina
    valentina-makanalina 25 September 2014 19: 50
    0
    Return to these reptiles is simply not visible to anyone. Who was, they probably are no longer alive.