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OSCE confirmed the facts of the massacres near Donetsk

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The OSCE Mission to Ukraine published a daily report, which states that some victims mass slaughter near Donetsk killed 27 August, reports "Lenta.ru".

OSCE confirmed the facts of the massacres near Donetsk


According to the staff of the international mission, in the place indicated by the DPR militia in the Kommunarskaya coal mine they found the 4 corpse. Next to the bodies, 8 cartridges from Makarov pistol cartridges were found, and on a plate near the grave it was indicated that people who died on August 27 were buried in it.

Meanwhile, the speaker of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Andrey Lysenko, said that the Ukrainian security forces were not involved in these killings, since the National Guard divisions were not in the area.

“We believe that this is a well-planned provocation ... There has never been a fighter of the National Guard. There were other Ukrainian units there, ”the newspaper quotes him. "Sight".

RIA "News" notes that representatives of the investigation team working at the burial site, denied the information that appeared in some media that the bodies lacked internal organs.

“The bodies have bullet wounds to the head, arms and legs, but the internal organs are in place,” said a spokesman for the Makeyevka Interior Department.

It is worth noting that the famous Italian journalist Giulietto Chiesa said that Europe is likely to ignore the data on the mass graves of civilians in Donbass.

According to him, there is little hope that an international investigation will begin, although this information is "sensational in nature."

“Information about this discovery itself is now distributed only in Russian media, the European media are silent, the European public does not know anything about it, and I can say with 100-percent probability that, most likely, I won’t find out. Even a question mark will not tell about the execution of civilians, ”he said.
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  1. svp67
    svp67 25 September 2014 10: 20
    +19
    “We think this is a well-planned provocation ... Not a single National Guard fighter has ever been there. There were other Ukrainian units there, "
    that is, who they know was standing, so "THE COMMANDER OF THE DIVISION IN THE STUDIO .... that is, FOR INTERROGATION"
    1. Giant thought
      Giant thought 25 September 2014 10: 31
      +10
      The world must learn about the atrocities of Ukrainian fascists.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 25 September 2014 10: 52
        +7
        Quote: Thought Giant
        The world must learn about the atrocities of Ukrainian fascists.

        "MIR" will not recognize this.
        1. SS68SS
          SS68SS 25 September 2014 11: 00
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          "MIR" will not recognize this.




          Russia needs to make every effort so that the world, as many people as possible, learn the truth ..... For this, there are diplomats and the media ... Let them work in one bundle ...
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 25 September 2014 11: 21
            +1
            Quote: SS68SS
            Russia needs to make every effort

            Attach, do not attach, but if the owner of the newspaper ordered to ignore this topic, then the vast majority of scribblers will follow the order of the owner. Otherwise, he will get a kick in the coccyx and without severance pay will fly to the labor exchange.
        2. The comment was deleted.
        3. Lukich
          Lukich 25 September 2014 11: 15
          +4
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          "MIR" will not recognize this.

          as in the tragedy of Boeing. I won’t be surprised that dill will say that he himself fell. just
        4. Passer
          Passer 25 September 2014 22: 05
          0
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          "MIR" will not recognize this.

          I’ve been saying for a long time that we would buy CNN quietly and impose our point of view on the whole world.
        5. The comment was deleted.
      2. skeket
        skeket 25 September 2014 11: 21
        +3
        Quote: Thought Giant
        The world must learn about the atrocities of Ukrainian fascists.

        The trouble is that my consciousness is changing. If earlier I caught fire over them, then there was some disgust, and now I noticed that I began to hate Ukrainians.
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 25 September 2014 11: 32
          0
          Quote: skeket
          noticed that I began to hate Ukrainians.

          This suggests that you are starting to wake up!
          The beginning of the 90s, the collapse of the USSR is already behind. A feast in the Kharkov region.
          I must say that I myself arrived with my wife from a town located halfway between Tula and Servukhov. A feast takes place a hundred kilometers from the Donetsk region.
          And here the hospitable hosts, tipsy, begin to tell me with his wife how they differ from the generous Ukrainians. Having completely forgotten that we are.
          How much do you think my relationship with them has been since then ???
      3. Separatist
        Separatist 25 September 2014 13: 55
        +1
        The OSCE in Donetsk more than once fell under fire, they saw who shot it and where it came from, but nevertheless they say little, they are apparently afraid of reprisal by the Natsiks.
    2. Dobrov
      Dobrov 25 September 2014 11: 17
      +5
      One Swiss, when asked why they are not interested in developing relations with Russian people, replied: "You will not try to shine with your intellect in front of a dog." Presumably, this is the answer to the whole international situation and the policy of the zapadla. Russian people can be pitied only by Russians (I mean the Russian population).
    3. Ezhaak
      Ezhaak 25 September 2014 11: 17
      0
      Quote: svp67
      "COMMANDER OF THE DIVISION IN THE STUDIO .... that is, FOR INTERROGATION"

      But it is clearly stated that this is not the National Guard, but other units of dill. They, Kievans, only know all the details about the National Guard and bear responsibility. Regarding the rest, the question is in Kalomoisk. In Dnepropetrovsk, in the synagogue.
      1. Bro 3-12
        Bro 3-12 25 September 2014 17: 50
        0
        Quote: Dobrov
        One Swiss, when asked why they are not interested in developing relations with Russian people, replied: "You will not try to shine with your intellect in front of a dog." Presumably, this is the answer to the whole international situation and the policy of the zapadla. Russian people can be pitied only by Russians (I mean the Russian population).


        Great example of analogy, support) +++
  2. skylare
    skylare 25 September 2014 10: 20
    +10
    They confirmed it again, found the guilty ones, and then there was silence and unspoken: "Continue, guys, go on!"
    1. Stiletto
      Stiletto 25 September 2014 10: 27
      +6
      Quote: skylare
      They confirmed it again, found the guilty ones, and then there was silence and unspoken: "Continue, guys, go on!"


      It was only our television, with sorrow and pain in his voice, that reported about the September 11 terrorist attack in the United States or that the militants who had been fed by the States had cut off the head of another American. As for me, they, as a nation, really deserve this attitude towards themselves. Well, the militias of Novorossiya were clearly given to understand what a "special status" is. I think they will draw appropriate conclusions from this for themselves.
      1. Kindof
        Kindof 25 September 2014 11: 06
        +4
        So it's time to draw these conclusions.
        What we are indignant about double standards is a scientific concept created by British scientists for more than 100 years, subsequently implemented by Amerz racists and German fascists.
        It all started with social Darwinism, which resulted in the formation of theories of the chosen Nordic race - which alone is entrusted with the "white man's burden" - which has the exclusive right to control the world's resources and the masses of people of the lower races. The theory of the "golden billion" and the myths that there will not be enough resources for everyone and eugenic teachings about the breeding of the breed of "demigods" among the titular race and the emasculation of the lower ones by spreading AIDS, syphilis, etc. in the poor quarters, can also be included there.
        At the same time, the USSR fought not only against fascism at the military level, but also against racism at the diplomatic level (Russia has forever been a bone in the throat). So some Snoop Dog owes his opportunity to rap, to diplomats of the USSR, not without whose efforts the corresponding resolution was pushed to the UN ..

        The "Chosen" consider the Russians - the result of a mixture of Mongoloids and the Alpine branch of the white race (not the titular one).
        Therefore, it’s time to get used to the fact that they will always consider us to be inferior people.
        Hence such an attitude towards the suffering of people in the South-East ("some wild uncivilized grimy ones crumbled others .. who can you feel sorry for ..").

        Anglo-Saxons and Teutons opposed the rest of the world's population.
        The power of the governing minority is supported by the fact that they skillfully push the foreheads of the nations of the controlled majority, after having artificially divided them by religious, national, racial grounds.
        When a more "subtle" intervention is required, they are already dividing the people and pushing groups apart (Maidan and anti-Maidan, red and white, rich and poor, liberals and conservatives).

        Anglo-Saxons and Teutons oppose the rest of the world - this is essentially a long-declared war. Not hot, but no less destructive.
        We must accept this, master the methods of waging such a war and be effective for everyone - in their own "firing sector".
        By the way, Putin’s foreign policy aikido, perceived as waiting, draining, etc. - It may well be an example of the successful application of hybrid warfare methods.
    2. nizrum
      nizrum 25 September 2014 10: 38
      +2
      It looks like it's time to dig out the grandfathers of PPSh ....
      1. skylare
        skylare 25 September 2014 11: 32
        +1
        Dig up - lend a metal detector. And then my husband’s grandfather buried TT with cartridges under the shed, so now you will find FIGs. They rummaged through Palsarai, moved all the firewood, and nothing good. Sadness ...
  3. e_krendel
    e_krendel 25 September 2014 10: 20
    +9
    And these European vyb..dki something blather there about freedom of speech ???
    1. Lukich
      Lukich 25 September 2014 11: 18
      +5
      Quote: e_krendel
      And these European vyb..dki something blather there about freedom of speech ???

      yes they have freedom of speech. only she is selective. he who pays the girl dances her
  4. shinobi
    shinobi 25 September 2014 10: 21
    +4
    And who doubts?
  5. revnagan
    revnagan 25 September 2014 10: 24
    +7
    So, the Russian media should open their eyes to European citizens. It's time to adopt their methods of influence-obsessively hammer their own, without paying any attention to those who are dissatisfied.
    1. Velikoruss
      Velikoruss 25 September 2014 10: 37
      +2
      The Russian media in Europe almost never look at European citizens. You need to bombard with information where they graze: on YouTube, in social networks, etc., but always in their native languages! And to organize this in droves only the state can do. Slaughter of information, analytics and video content is a sea, but there are no people who would convert
      1. Vitaly Anisimov
        Vitaly Anisimov 25 September 2014 10: 52
        +7
        May the land be rest in peace to all innocently killed ... hi
      2. Velikoruss
        Velikoruss 25 September 2014 12: 41
        +2
        ... Sorry, something with the site, but I will continue, in Russia there are no specialist translators and IT specialists involved in the conversion of materials into a form accessible to the western man in the street. A bunch of funds It is spent on all sorts of preparations for championships, olipiads, military competitions, on celebrating the days of the city and other cutting activities, but there are no signs of such, in general, penny-wise, but incredibly useful things for the country. The most important of the rules of information warfare: "The one who said first wins!" It doesn't matter what, truth or lie, the main thing is right.! Until they figure out what and how the main task will be completed. Examples: White bullshit in Powell's test tube became Casus belli - the reason for the invasion of Iraq, Georgia's aggression in 2008 was presented as Georgia's defensive actions against the invasion of the Russian Armed Forces, The demolition of the WTC under the official guise of an Islamic terrorist attack became the reason for the invasion of Afghanistan. All this lies were later served out. What's the point? Enemy bombers must be shot down before they drop bombs on the guarded object, when they drop the main task of the enemy will be completed and shooting down the aircraft will no longer be canceled
        1. Kindof
          Kindof 26 September 2014 17: 02
          0
          Quote: Velikorus
          The most important of the rules of information warfare: "The one who said first wins!"

          Speak correctly, but:
          To present an interpretation of an event of such significance as "Powell's white bullshit" requires a VERY SERIOUS ANALYST (if the Russian Federation in the UN Security Council immediately said that it was white bullshit, and it turned out to be not bullshit - can you imagine what the consequences for the authority of our diplomats!).
          They are ahead of us not because we are slower in analytics and in approving decisions and publications in the media through a bureaucratic vertical (perhaps this is so) - but because THEY HAVE ADVISED THIS PLAN IN ADVANCE:
          Mon Powell shows white bullshit at UN Security Council
          Tue Hysterics in the media with this text "..."
          Wed Baghdad bombing
          Blitzkrieg, in a word
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 25 September 2014 11: 08
      +7
      Quote: revnagan
      So, the Russian media should open their eyes to European inhabitants


      Russian media do not reach the European layman who believes that in Ukraine a dozen terrorists from nasty Russia seized a couple of administrative buildings in eastern Ukraine, put rocket launchers there and hit civilian planes and towns, and the government too led by Poroshenko is already too humane more than six months, persuading Putin to stop aggression and the destruction of the best sons of the independence. The layman got this info and calmly went to drink beer under a chicken leg or sausage. Something like that. bully
      1. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 25 September 2014 11: 19
        +3
        Quote: Lelek
        The layman got this info and calmly went to drink beer under a chicken leg or sausage. Something like that

        The euro-producer will soon have to learn the Koran ... With such a pace of libero-tolerance, Western Europe is threatened by the fiscal crescent ... wassat
  6. DV69
    DV69 25 September 2014 10: 27
    +4
    The well-known Italian journalist Giulietto Chiesa said that "Information about this very discovery is now being disseminated only by the Russian media, the European media are silent, the European public does not know anything about it, and I can say with 100% probability that most likely it will not find out. They won't even tell about the shooting of civilians with a question mark. "


    After "livers on the Maidan", "heavenly hundreds", Odessa Tragedy, Malaysian Boeing, this is not surprising.
    It is surprising that the speaker of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Andriy Lysenko admits the involvement of the Ukrainian military in the crime, while fencing off the national guard.
    Do rot really want to remove Geletey?
    1. Drednout
      Drednout 25 September 2014 11: 21
      +1
      Quote: DV69
      It is surprising that the speaker of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Andriy Lysenko admits the involvement of the Ukrainian military in the crime,

      So what? Legally, they have already been discharged indulgences for everything. Do what you want and nothing will happen to you.
      I will return to comparing the war in New Russia with the first Chechen one. Now the difference is visible?
  7. VICTOR-61
    VICTOR-61 25 September 2014 10: 28
    +1
    Yes, they expressed their point of view, and that was it; while the European morons didn’t think about it, they will have fascism and terrorist attacks as time’s attacks since they support the example of Syria
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 25 September 2014 11: 17
      +3
      Quote: VICTOR-61
      while the European morons do not think much, they will have fascism and terrorist attacks as time as they support it, the example of Syria



      Here, they just won’t change their minds until the Nazi boots and a helmet with a swastika under the drum crackling at night with torches go through their cities and villages. Until this layman for disobedience gets a bullet in the back of his head. But then it really will be too late. soldier
  8. vitaz
    vitaz 25 September 2014 10: 29
    +2
    Tse europa, tsivilizatsyya
  9. MAXUZZZ
    MAXUZZZ 25 September 2014 10: 30
    +2
    Well, they still look at the Russian people, you look, maybe the rest will not remain silent as well.
    1. Velikoruss
      Velikoruss 25 September 2014 11: 00
      +2
      RT is watching a scanty amount. Even by the standards of Russia, one agency is not enough, it will be lost among others. And in the West even more so.
  10. ia-ai00
    ia-ai00 25 September 2014 10: 30
    +4
    All who try not to notice the atrocities of dill are fascists just like those who kill.
  11. x.andvlad
    x.andvlad 25 September 2014 10: 30
    +6
    The same turbidity as with the Odessa violence. There is a cover due to a large puddle. Hand washes a hand. Do .... mo morality!
  12. Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 25 September 2014 10: 31
    +1
    And again the same rake as in the late thirties and early forties of the last century! Although the uk'rov have a lower chimney and a thinner smoke than the bad memory of the 3rd Reich, but still, all the same ...
  13. rugor
    rugor 25 September 2014 10: 31
    +4
    I don’t remember who said:

    ".... A robbery on the outskirts of London excites them more than a thousand murders in a distant country ...."
  14. Balamyt
    Balamyt 25 September 2014 10: 33
    +3
    Same thing with Boeing! Nobody needs this ifa besides us. She is not very comfortable ....
    Here it is, the world community!
    1. Altona
      Altona 25 September 2014 11: 34
      +1
      Quote: Balamyt
      Same thing with Boeing! Nobody needs this ifa besides us. She is not very comfortable ....
      Here it is, the world community!

      ---------------------------
      And in the news they talked about the behavior of the OSCE representatives ... During the exchange of prisoners, the OSCE does not look at the militias at all, they are alive, like, okay, bruises and injuries do not look through people, even without interest ... And when the prisoners of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are taken out, there every scratch is examined in order to reveal the "atrocities of the separatists" ... That's the whole attitude of the West, and among the OSCE representatives there are people from the most "friendly" partners to us - the Germans. Dutch, British, Swedes, Poles ...
  15. Bear13
    Bear13 25 September 2014 10: 34
    +1
    The People’s Court of New Russia should be held. It’s time to see clearly that we are not on the road with Europa.
  16. parusnik
    parusnik 25 September 2014 10: 35
    +3
    Giulietto Chiesa said that Europe is likely to ignore data on the mass graves of civilians in the Donbass..... Rather, it will be so ... because in the event of an investigation by the West, it will, not will, have to admit that the Nazis supported all this time ...
  17. Chaika
    Chaika 25 September 2014 10: 38
    +1
    According to him, there is little hope that an international investigation will begin, although this information is "sensational in nature."
    Hatred of Russia - It’s in their blood, but what do they achieve? The revival of fascism? So this is a double-edged sword!
  18. Dezinto
    Dezinto 25 September 2014 10: 41
    +3
    KAAAAK WILL RESPOND his mother (his mother is overseas) "world community" ????????? Correct language in --op!

    AU Ban Ki Muuud, AU UN, AU Hague Strasbourg Court !!

    _yat yes at least someone will say something will see ?????
  19. ISKANDER25
    ISKANDER25 25 September 2014 10: 43
    +2
    Hello! Something late came to the attention of the OSCE! How much remains to be learned about the atrocities of the PERFORMANCE-GEORGE, but will we all know ?! hi
  20. Dezinto
    Dezinto 25 September 2014 10: 43
    +4
    Pa Ki Gudu is not up to it ..... he is puzzled by the climate.
  21. gaura
    gaura 25 September 2014 10: 45
    0
    I would very much like a link to the official statement of the OSCE and this Lysenko.
  22. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 25 September 2014 10: 46
    0
    The Investigative Committee of Russia will involve its investigators in the verification of the fact of the discovery of a mass grave in the forest warehouse of the Kommunar mine near Donetsk. The Ukrainian military is suspected of murder.

    "Information on the killings of citizens whose bodies were found in a mass grave near Donetsk will be verified by the Investigative Department of the Investigative Committee as part of a criminal investigation into the use of prohibited means and methods of warfare against civilians in southeastern Ukraine," an official representative said on Wednesday TFR Vladimir Markin.

    But it’s still necessary to investigate, and I hope sooner or later they will find wherever they are ... This is very important for future generations who will live in normal Ukraine!
  23. EvaFerrari
    EvaFerrari 25 September 2014 10: 46
    +1
    The OSCE confirmed something, only conclusions from this organization will not follow. How many are they already traveling around the Donbass? Everyone fixes and fixes ... how people die. AND EVERYTHING
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 25 September 2014 11: 24
      +1
      Quote: EvaFerrari
      OSCE confirmed something, only conclusions from this organization will not follow


      Do not be naive, this is their credo. And the boss determines the credo. And who is their boss? Woo a la. bully
  24. 3vs
    3vs 25 September 2014 10: 49
    +2
    Yes, there will be no condemnation of the atrocities of the Ukrainian punks by the international community.
    While they themselves are not concerned - and to hell with him.
    That's when it will also happen on European territory, then they will scream.
    The blood and lives of Orthodox Christ-sellers / strangers / haters are not interesting.
  25. mackonya
    mackonya 25 September 2014 10: 50
    +1
    Nothing Russia Today will leave this fact unexplained.
  26. BOB044
    BOB044 25 September 2014 10: 53
    +2
    While Russia will not be in Kiev, there will be no investigations by Europe. Residents of the DPR and LPR are not interested in Europe and the other world. If the United States tells Europe to pay attention to the executions of civilians, then Europe will pay attention. And so the United States will say so.
  27. Satyr
    Satyr 25 September 2014 11: 00
    +1
    As Vysotsky said - ".. has served its bread and salt, the world is not worth our love .."
    We all smile at the bourgeoisie, we try to follow the world laws by all means, observe human rights, we apologize for each of us not even our "blunder". Is it worth it? .. Caesar, as they say, a dog's death. Sorry if not the topic. I boil sometimes.
  28. pensioner
    pensioner 25 September 2014 11: 02
    +3
    Well, don't fucking hope for an "international investigation" and the Hague Tribunal. Calculate and punish. Ukraine is not such a big country, so that it would be easy to hide ...
  29. Kushadasov
    Kushadasov 25 September 2014 11: 02
    +3
    OSCE confirmed the facts of the massacres near Donetsk


    We know. Already passed: I confirmed it, but they will search for the guilty, as usual, do their best to procrastinate and drag out this issue in every way ... like with a Boeing. All of these obs and un-mongrel State Department. Without their knowledge, the mittens will not be opened. Universal untruth and injustice are actively imposed on the world. War they want. The war is large and bloody, after which the dictatorship of the devil should be established. But this is bad luck: Russia is hindering this.
  30. propolsky
    propolsky 25 September 2014 11: 06
    +1
    All the reptiles to the answer! In the 21st century, this should not be forgiven ...
    1. Anper
      Anper 25 September 2014 11: 23
      +3
      Quote: propolsky
      In the 21st century, this should not be forgiven

      In the 20th century, they didn’t just forgive Mitterrand, at that time the chief prosecutor of Algeria, one and a half million Algerians, but they had him for a sample of the French political elite - to say nothing of Poroshenko and the victims in the Donbass, all the more so, some Russians.
      1. Aleksander
        Aleksander 25 September 2014 14: 21
        +1
        Just like Bush the elder, NOBODY condemned for 1 the million people who died in Iraq, who were killed on an absolutely absurd and deceitful accusation.
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  31. hohkn
    hohkn 25 September 2014 11: 19
    +2
    Quote: skylare
    They confirmed it again, found the guilty ones, and then there was silence and unspoken: "Continue, guys, go on!"

    The leadership of the country 404 is responsible for everything that is happening in the east.
  32. sgr291158
    sgr291158 25 September 2014 11: 20
    +1
    Naturally, Europe will be silent, because Barack can shake a finger at her and say, “I am.”
  33. Lukich
    Lukich 25 September 2014 11: 23
    +4
    it is very likely that all these henchmen of the Faitington regional committee will recognize this as a mass suicide of those dissatisfied with the politics of the Donetsk Republic
  34. Stinger
    Stinger 25 September 2014 11: 32
    +1
    If the Jews were shot, then of course it was, and since the Russians, then there was nothing, if only they shot themselves with the aim of putting the blame on dill. Like Sashko White. Well, how can you call these fucking Europeans?
  35. Nina Zima
    Nina Zima 25 September 2014 11: 48
    +1
    Yesterday in Solovyov's program it was rightly said: all peacekeeping organizations defending "PUSIRAY" (ugh, God forgive me!), and homosekoff and other trash: paid for by the CIA or are their agents. And what to expect from them besides slander? There will be a trial, this is unambiguous, and all fascists and punishers will be shot or hanged according to the trial. And if there is no trial, then the people themselves know what to do!
  36. Svetovod
    Svetovod 25 September 2014 12: 02
    0
    These burials will come in handy for ukra when they are thrown away to the euro zone. They will taste the places and will begin to knock on the Russian purges, and the places will prompt. But by then, the opinion of the OBSUs and other European commissions will be to hell.
  37. Wolka
    Wolka 25 September 2014 12: 34
    +1
    so what, that the OSCE office confirmed the genocide of civilians in the Donbass, that it’s all right, just one air shock and just don’t even go into the field, it’s known that no one is guilty and there will not be a trial (tribunal), the war however ...
  38. sv68
    sv68 25 September 2014 14: 00
    0
    if, still, for such crimes ukro-garbage would bear this responsibility ...
  39. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 25 September 2014 14: 25
    0
    What can I say if GiMood, from the UN rostrum, calls on the states when attacking Iraq and Syriaminimize civilian casualties! That is, good, kill, and then we will calculate how many were killed, do not worry, do not count a lot.