Crimean War and the development of the steam navy of the Russian Empire

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In September, 2014 marks 160 since the start of the legendary defense of Sevastopol during the Crimean War. 25 September (13 September old style) 1854 of the year began the siege of the city of Russian naval glory by superior forces and forces of the enemy. As is known, in the Crimean War, the Russian empire clashed with a coalition of the leading Western powers of that time — Britain and France, as well as the Ottoman Empire and joined the coalition of the Sardinian kingdom.

Back in June 1854, the naval forces of England, France, the Ottoman Empire and the Sardinian kingdom, consisting of 34 battleships and 55 frigates, blocked the Russian navy in the Sevastopol bay. Russian forces fleet significantly inferior to the enemy - in the bay of Sevastopol were blocked 14 battleships, 6 frigates and 6 steamboat-frigates. By the way, the vast majority of Russian warships were sailing, while the Allied fleet had a clear advantage in modern steam ships.

Military-technical backwardness of the Russian fleet

Here it is necessary to dwell in greater detail on what the Russian navy represented by the middle of the 19th century. The naval forces of the empire included two fleets — the Black Sea and the Baltic, and several smaller flotillas — the Kamchatka, the Caspian, the White Sea, and the Aral, which did not play a significant role in the defense of the sea’s frontiers. The Black Sea and Baltic fleet had a number of significant differences from each other. The Baltic fleet was always visible and therefore its command was aimed at developing, in the first place, the outer side of the fleet. The ships of the Baltic Fleet with their appearance should have made an impression of the elite of the Russian naval forces and, indeed, the fleet looked great at the parades and parades. However, his combat training caused many questions - the Balticians rarely set sail, the officers sought more to build a career than to master the naval science and the ability to control their crews.

The Black Sea Fleet, which also lagged behind the English or French fleets in military-technical terms, in terms of training personnel, was a completely different picture than the Baltic Fleet. First, the Black Sea Fleet, almost all the time of the existence of the Russian naval forces, continuously fought - first of all, with Ottoman Turkey. Secondly, the fleet ships more often went to long-distance navigation, had a rich experience of interaction with ground forces during the blockade of the Caucasian coast. Had a fleet and a strategic goal - the seizure of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles in the event of a naval conflict with the Ottoman Empire.

It was the Crimean War and, in particular, the defense of Sevastopol, about which the Russian militaryhistorical so many books have been written in literature that it makes no sense to retell the course of events in the heroic months of September 1854 - August 1855. It was a turning point in the development of the Russian Navy. The raid of the enemy fleet to the Sevastopol Bay showed the backwardness of the then Russian fleet, consisting in the predominance of the sailing fleet over the steam one. While England and France, a significant part of the warships was represented by steamships, the Russian Navy at the time the Crimean War began, consisted mainly of sailing ships, which, of course, lost to the more modern steam fleet. In this article, we will focus on several key points in the history of the transition of the Russian fleet from sailing ships to steam, not claiming to be comprehensive and complete, but offering to recall the people and events that are associated with the development of the Russian Navy.

The first Russian steam vessels began to be developed in the early nineteenth century. In 1815, the first passenger barge "Elizaveta" began to go on the route "St. Petersburg - Kronstadt". In 1820, the steamboat Vesuvius passed from Nikolaev to Kherson. However, the navy of the Russian Empire was in no hurry to acquire steam warships. Only at the end of 1830's. The construction of the first warships on steam-powered steam-off began: in BNGX, the Bogatyr steam-frigate was launched into the water, from 1838 to 1836. - seven wheeled steamer and one screw. As a result, by the time the Crimean War began, in terms of the development of the steam navy, Russia was significantly inferior to both England and France. In many respects, this military-technical backwardness was due to the deliberately losing position of Russia in the Crimean War, since the fleet’s task was to thwart enemy attempts to approach the Crimean coast. As is known, despite the heroism of the Russian sailors - admirals, officers and sailors - this task was not fulfilled due to the technical backwardness of the Russian fleet.

The first battle in the world with the participation of rare at that time military steamers was the battle of the steamer frigate Vladimir with the Turkish-Egyptian steamer frigate Pervaz Bahri, which occurred before the siege of Sevastopol began - 5 November 1853 of the year. The steamer frigate "Vladimir" was launched in March 1848, five years before the events described. Its displacement reached 1713 m., Length - 61 m., Width - 11 m. By the time of the beginning of the Crimean War, it was considered the best frigate of the Black Sea Fleet.

In those years, Russia had only 16 steamer-frigates on the Black Sea, while the naval command was suspicious of these ships, adhering to conservative views on the development of the fleet. Indeed, from an aesthetic point of view, sailing battleships looked much more impressive compared to small steam-powered frigates; on top of that, the Russian sailing fleet over the previous century proved itself in many naval battles, primarily with ships of Ottoman Turkey. Therefore, at first, the fleet command refrained from active combat use of steam frigates. They were used to support the ground forces, transport damaged sailing ships, fulfill orders for the delivery of correspondence and supplies. Directly in the fighting, they did not participate.

The technical backlog of the Russian navy was due not only to the backwardness of the Russian machine-building (including shipbuilding) industry compared to the British or French, but also to the conviction of many admirals and, moreover, the royal ministers that the sailing fleet remains efficient, then As in the world of military shipbuilding, colossal changes took place during this period.

The first battle of steamboats: the seizure of "Pervaz-Bahri"

By the morning of November 5, the steamer frigate "Vladimir" was in the Black Sea waters near the mouth of the Danube River, where it was carrying out tasks to monitor the movements of the Turkish military fleet. On board the steamer frigate was Vice-Admiral V.A., Chief of Staff of the Black Sea Fleet. Kornilov (1806-1854), and directly commanded "Vladimir" Lieutenant Commander G.I. Butakov (1820-1882).

By the time of the events described, Grigoriy Ivanovich Butakov was 33 of the year. Behind the hereditary sailor, whose father Ivan Butakov once commanded the battleship Tsar Konstantin, was already more than twenty years of naval service. In 1831, Grigory Butakov entered the Naval Cadet Corps and graduated from it five years later. Then there was a two-year internship at the Baltic Fleet, the appointment of a flag officer at 1838 to the battleship Silistria with the rank of midshipman, the assignment of lieutenant shoulder straps to 1843 for excellent service, including off the coast of the North Caucasus, a five-year command of the Hasty tender , assignment in 1850 of the captain-lieutenant rank and appointment in 1852 of the commander of the steamer frigate "Vladimir".

On the morning of November 5, Vice Admiral Kornilov himself was at the captain’s bridge of Vladimir, together with the flag officer of the ship. Vladimir Alekseevich watched the sea with binoculars when he saw the smoke of a steamer heading towards Sevastopol in the distance. Having not seen the vessel, the vice-admiral accepted him for the Russian steam-powered frigate Bessarabia and thought that the latter was heading for the Sevastopol bay. Kornilov gave the command to catch up with the steamer, to which the commander of "Vladimir" Butakov remarked that this could not be "Bessarabia."

As it turned out, the vice-admiral arranged for a different alignment - if the steamer were an enemy, it would be a sin not to engage him in battle. Within an hour, the steamer-frigate "Vladimir" managed to significantly reduce the distance that separated it from the suspicious ship. The latter, in turn, turned toward the coast, hoping to break away from the unwanted pursuer. "Vladimir" went to meet him - the red flag with a crescent moon fluttering over an unknown steamer spoke for itself. The Russian steamer-frigate did not meet with the Bessarabian colleague, but with the Turkish Pervaz-Bahri steamer-frigate (Sea View), commanded by an experienced officer, Seyd Pasha.

At 10 in the morning, the first shot of the Vladimir gun was heard. The launched core fell before the bow of the Turkish steam-frigate, which meant only one thing - the Russian ship offers the Turks to surrender immediately. In response, the Turkish ship steamer responded with cannon volleys. The battle of Russian and Turkish ships began. Captain-Lieutenant Butakov oriented instantly. Noticing that there are no bow and stern guns on the Turkish military ship, Butakov skillfully controlled the "Vladimir", not allowing the latter to approach the sides of the Pervaz-Bahri.

A Turkish cannon shot down a Turkish flag on the mast of a steamboat, but the Ottomans immediately replaced it and tried to break away from the Russian ship. In response, "Vladimir" shot from the nose guns - 214-mm guns. It is difficult to deny the courage of the Turks, first of all commander Seyid Pasha, who was standing on the landing all the time until he was killed by another volley from a Russian steamer. Approaching the Pervaz-Bahri at a hundred-meter distance, the Russian steamer opened fire with a canister from all the onboard guns. After the death of the captain, the Turks faltered and soon the flag crawled down the mast with a crescent moon. This meant that the Pervaz-Bahri steamer-frigate was surrendered to the victor’s mercy. For the Turkish sailors, the battle ended with the loss of 58 officers and sailors killed, two people were killed on the "Vladimir". The captured Pervaz-Bakhri steamboat-frigate was repaired and under the new name Kornilov was enlisted in the Black Sea Fleet.

For the victory and the seizure of Pervaz-Bakhri, Grigory Butakov was awarded the Order of St. George of the 4 degree and promoted to captain of the 2 rank. Subsequently, for nearly thirty years, he continued to serve in the Russian Navy, reaching the full admiral. During the defense of Sevastopol, Butakov commanded a detachment of steam-frigates, was promoted to captain of the 1 rank and was appointed chief of staff of the Black Sea Fleet. Butakov was greatly appreciated by renowned Russian admirals Nakhimov and Kornilov, and even forbade Nakhimov to send Butakova to dangerous missions, arguing that the Russian fleet needed this officer alive - as a storehouse of knowledge, experience and initiatives. After the Crimean War, he served as military governor of Nikolaev and Sevastopol, commanded a detachment of screw ships in the Baltic Fleet, was a naval agent in England, France and Italy, and commanded the Practical Squadron of armored ships on the Baltic Sea. In 1878-1881 Butakov was the head of the coastal and naval defense of the Sveaborg fortress, and from 1 in January of 1881 he became the commander-in-chief of the St. Petersburg fleet.

In addition to his feats of arms, Grigory Butakov went down in history as one of the first Russian forerunners of the development of the steam navy. He is the author of the scientific work “New Foundations of Steamship Tactics”. It Butakov based on personal experience and analysis of existing scientific theories, introduced the methods of combat training of the fleet: to prepare the fleet, not for shows and parades, but for military operations; pay more attention to marine practice, especially swimming; to develop the initiative, courage and ingenuity of the officers and sailors of the fleet; to teach the fleet the basics of ground forces engagement. Butakov drew attention to the need to increase the technical readiness of officers, non-commissioned officers and sailors in the transition from sailing to steam fleet and, accordingly, increasing requirements for engineering and technical literacy of sailors.

Shipbuilding Modernization

After the defeat of the Russian Empire in the Crimean War, it was forbidden to have a full-fledged combat fleet on the Black Sea. Nevertheless, realizing that without the fleet Russia sooner or later will not be able to exist, at least as a great power, the government of the country switched to the development program for the steam and armored fleet. Thus, the Crimean War became a kind of impetus for ossified Russian officials, prompting them to pay attention to the need to modernize naval shipping and shipbuilding and move on to the construction of modern warships.

Already in 1857, the shipbuilding program was approved, according to which the Baltic Fleet, which, as a result of the Crimean War, in fact remained the only full-fledged fleet of the Russian Empire, was to receive 18 propeller ships, 12 propeller frigates, 14 propeller corvettes, 100 propeller gunboats, 9 propeller ships steamer frigates. In addition, it was assumed the development of the Navy in the Pacific. There it was decided to focus 9 screw corvettes, 6 screw clippers, 9 screw conveyors and 4 wheeled steamer. According to the results of the war, on the Black Sea, the Russian Empire could have only minor naval forces consisting of 6 screw corvettes, 9 screw conveyors and 4 wheeled steamers.

However, the development of the steam fleet in post-war Russia required considerable efforts - first of all, the creation of a powerful shipbuilding industry focused on steam ships. It required not only talented inventors, but also engineers, technicians, skilled workers who are able to work in the shipbuilding industry. The organizational structure of the Navy also waited for the corresponding reforms. Military reforms DA Milyutin allowed to turn the Russian army and navy into a modern armed forces, not inferior to the armed forces of the Western powers, not only in size, but also in the specifics of recruiting and training of military personnel.

1 January 1874 was a transition to a system of universal military service. The strength of the navy was reduced by 58 thousand people - from 85 thousand people in 1857 year to 27 thousand people in 1878 year. The conscription service on ships of the Navy was reduced from 25 to 7 years of active service and three years of service in the reserve. At the same time, the approach to personnel issues of manning the navy has changed. The emphasis was placed on the call in the navy of skilled workers who had certain technical knowledge and skills. The latter played a very important role in enhancing the training of recruits recruited for the fleet, since the workers, unlike illiterate or illiterate peasants, had technical specialties and could, with short-term military training, perform professional duties on the ship.

The construction of screw wooden vessels began, which was proceeding at a rather rapid pace. Within six years, from 1857 to 1863, 26 screw ships were built, descending from the St. Petersburg shipyard. Contemporaries noted the high maneuverability and seaworthiness of screw ships, however, it was noted that the absence of armor makes wooden propeller ships an easy target for enemy artillery and allows the enemy to quickly disable them. The need to increase the security of screw ships entailed the transition to the construction of an armored fleet.

In 1860, the Maritime Ministry began the preparation of a second program for the development of domestic shipbuilding, focused on the construction of an armored fleet. According to the developers of the program, the navy of the Russian Empire should prevail over the fleets of potential rivals, which will allow Russia, regardless of its financial and economic resources, to adequately position itself on the international stage.

However, solving the task of building an armored fleet required appropriate preparation for its implementation for the Russian shipbuilding industry. First of all, it was required to retool shipbuilding yards, previously oriented on the production of wooden ships. Since St. Petersburg remained the main center of shipbuilding, the focus was on the modernization of St. Petersburg shipbuilding enterprises. The key ones were the shipyard on Galerny Island, the New Admiralty, the factories of Byrd, Carr and MacPherson, Semyaninkov and Poletika. It was decided to reassign all private factories to the Marine Ministry of the Russian Empire. In the south of the Russian Empire, a key role in the shipbuilding industry was played by Nikolaev, where from 1870's - 1880's. The construction of battleships for the Black Sea Fleet was launched. There were also shipbuilding enterprises in Sevastopol and Odessa on which small warships were built. In addition to shipyards, the metallurgical industry was important for the development of the steam-powered armored fleet. The rapid development of domestic metallurgy began in the last quarter of the nineteenth century.

However, the beginning of the release of armor refers to an earlier time. The main part of armor plates for the domestic fleet was supplied from the Izhora and Obukhov factories. It should also be noted that, in addition to domestic factories, battleships and individual components of their equipment were purchased by the Russian Empire abroad, since domestic industry in the second half of the 19th century was still not able to fully meet the need of the Russian naval department for warships. The first domestic armored ship - the gunboat "Experience" - was built in 1861, at the St. Petersburg shipyard, under the guidance of engineer Kh.V. Prokhorov. Made entirely of metal, the boat was equipped with a single weapon located on the bow of the vessel.

"Popovki"

The most important role in the transition from sailing ships to steam, in the development of the Russian armored fleet, was played by Admiral Andrei Alexandrovich Popov (1821-1898). A graduate of the Naval Cadet Corps, Popov also came from the Black Sea Fleet, where he began service and commanded the steamers Meteor, Elbrus, Andiya, Turok, and Taman.

Like Butakov, Popov was a member of the Crimean War. Being the commander of "Taman", Popov broke from the blocked Sevastopol to Odessa and returned back with supplies to supply the blocked defenders of the city. After the end of the Crimean War, Popov continued his service in the Baltic Fleet - chief of staff of the Kronstadt port, then commanded a detachment of ships in the Pacific Ocean, and in 1861 he was appointed responsible for the conversion of sailing ships into screw. The name of Popov is associated with the direct transfer of the Russian Navy to steam and armored ships. Popov led the construction of such famous ships as the battleship "Peter the Great", the imperial yacht "Livadia", the battleship frigates "General-Admiral" and "Herzog Edinburgh".

The battleship Peter the Great, built under the leadership of Popov, at one time became one of the strongest warships in the world, not inferior to the British and French battleships. Launched in the 1877 year, it was a powerful ship with a displacement of thousands of tons in 10. Armed with four 85-millimeter guns in two towers. The speed of the ship reached 12,5 nodes. The well-known English shipbuilder E. Reed spoke of Peter the Great as an extremely powerful ship, which is a much stronger ship than any English battleship. Also under the leadership and, including, on projects of A.A. Popova in the period after 1856 was built 14 screw corvettes and 12 clippers.

In order to strengthen the coastal defense in the area of ​​the Kerch Strait and the Dnieper-Bug Estuary, the naval command decided to build several armored ships specifically designed for duty to protect the coastline. The military and naval ministries were tasked with creating batteries, whose thickness of armor and caliber of artillery guns would exceed the battleships of all foreign powers. At the same time, since according to the results of the Crimean War, Russia could not have vessels with a certain displacement in the Black Sea, the batteries created had to meet the prescribed requirements - that is, at the same time they should not be included in the list of forbidden ships, and have high combat qualities that allow to fully cope with the tasks of the defense of the straits and the coast.

A.A. Popov proposed his own project of battleships with a large displacement and low draft. Popova’s round floating battery was supposed to be equipped with powerful artillery pieces capable of withstanding battleships. Although the ship turned out low-speed, it did not embarrass Popov, since it was not originally intended to involve the floating batteries in long hikes. The armament of such a battery was to consist of 11-inch or 20-inch smooth guns. The smaller area of ​​the floating battery allowed to save considerably on armor, which for an economically weaker Russia, only the losing party that emerged from the Crimean War, was of no small importance. These ships received in common language the name "popovki" - after the name of their designer and initiator of the release. It was planned to build 4 "popovki", two of which were to launch the St. Petersburg shipyard and two - Nikolaev. In 1871, the construction of the first "popovka" began, which received the name "Novgorod". Two years later, in May 1873, the ship "Novgorod", delivered from the St. Petersburg shipyard, was launched.

What was the ship "Novgorod"? It was equipped with two 280-mm rifled guns. During the tests, the popovka developed a speed of six knots. The low side of the popovka was the slow rate of fire: the gun was rotated 180 degrees in three minutes. To charge the cannon with shells, it was necessary to spend ten minutes. A serious failure of the project was the susceptibility of the vessel to descend from the course in the wind, and with strong wind it could hardly move. The characteristics of the Novgorod battleship were as follows: displacement - 2491 ton, length - 30,8 m., Width - 30,8 m., Side height - 4,6 m., Powerplant - 4 steam engines for 120 horsepower, 8 boilers. Autonomous battleship could survive for three days. The crew of the battleship numbered 151 man, including 15 officers.

The second “popovka” was supposed to be launched under the name “Kiev” in 1873, but then Popov began its modernization and as a result the battleship Vice Admiral Popov appeared, named after the designer. His launch was made in 1876 year. According to its characteristics, Vice Admiral Popov was somewhat superior to its predecessor, the battleship Novgorod. In particular, its data were as follows: displacement - 3550 tons, maximum length - 36,57 m., Width - 36,57 m., Side height - 4,6 m., Powerplant -8 steam engines for 120 hp, 12 boilers, 6 screws. The full speed of the enhanced pop-up model reached 8 nodes. Two 305-mm cannons, six Krupp 87-millimeter cannons, eight Hotchkiss 47-millimeter cannons, five Hotchkis X-guns with revolving guns were in service. The crew of the battleship Vice Admiral Popov numbered 37 people, including 206 officers.

Crimean War and the development of the steam navy of the Russian Empire


Many experts argue that the project "popovki" because of its round body was a largely erroneous decision. After all, having built a round ship with thick armor and heavy artillery, Popov did not envisage that the ship would swing heavily on the waves, thereby reducing the targeted accuracy of artillery firing. "Popovki" poorly kept the course, could occasionally be overwhelmed with waves. Despite the fact that the project’s shortcomings in the launched ships were overcome, rumors about the poor suitability of these battleships in real combat were widespread in the country. In particular, ignorant people claimed that the “popovka” rotates when fired due to a round body.

Nevertheless, the “popovki” participated in the Russian-Turkish war 1877-1878, making a march to the mouth of the Danube River, in 1892 were credited with the number of armored ships of coastal defense. Written off the "popovki" with the weapons of the Navy only in the 1903 year - five years after the death of their designer in the 1898 year. It should be noted that it was thanks to the "popovka" in such a difficult period for the Russian presence on the Black Sea, as three decades after the Crimean War, that coastal defense of the most important strategic points of the Black Sea coast of the Russian Empire was carried out. However, in general, the Russian naval ministry failed to create a full-fledged line of defense of the Black Sea coast, because it relied solely on “popovki”, and then, influenced by public opinion, stopped their release after launching the first two battleships and did not offer new original projects.

The merit of Popov was the development of the idea of ​​building armored cruisers, also called first-class cruisers. Subsequently, shipbuilders and the naval command of almost all the maritime powers of that time were guided by Popov’s ideas in the field of cruise building. Thus, the Russian admiral became not only the founder of the national steam fleet, but also gave a creative impetus to the development and modernization of shipbuilding on a global scale.

In the end, the Russian government thought about the prospects and ways of modernizing the Russian fleet and in several postwar decades, relying on the selfless work of specialists - naval officers, design engineers, technicians, as well as an unknown mass of skilled workers, was able to create a full-fledged navy, equipped with modern warships and not inferior in their fighting qualities to the fleets of the western maritime powers.
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  1. +3
    25 September 2014 09: 31
    In the end, the Russian government thought about the prospects and ways of modernizing the domestic fleet and in the several post-war decades, relying on the selfless work of specialists - naval officers, design engineers, technicians, as well as an unknown mass of skilled workers, was able to create a full-fledged navy, equipped with modern warships and not inferior in their combat qualities to the fleets of the western sea powers
    As one example of this, the Grand Duke Constantine is a steamboat which the battleships were afraid of
    The main weapon was four steam mine boats, initially armed with pole mines, boarding the steamer with specially designed davits.

    The fighting. Mine operations

    April 30 - May 1 1877. Attack of the Sultaniya yacht on the Batumi raid
    28-29 May 1877. Attack of the armored corvette Ijlaliye on the Sulin raid
    11-12 August 1877. Attack of the battleship “Assari-Shevket” (or “Assari-Tevfik”) on the Sukhum raid
    15-16 DECEMBER 1877. Torpedo attack of battleships in Batumi raid
    13-14 January 1878.
    Mine transport "GREAT PRINCE KONSTANTIN" and a mine boat, Russia, 1877
    Chestma ", one of the mine boats of the steamer" Grand Duke Constantine
    1. +2
      25 September 2014 09: 57
      And the future admiral Stepan Osipovich Makarov, one of the most prominent figures of the Russian fleet, commanded him (Grand Duke Konstantin).
  2. +2
    25 September 2014 09: 41
    Interesting article.
    But it is worth mentioning that in the Battle of Sinop in 1853, the steamship frigates "Crimea", "Odessa" and "Chersonesos" took part, according to their disposition they were assigned the role of covering and intercepting the retreating Turkish ships and vessels after battleships entered the battle. But the only Turkish steamship-frigate "Taif" managed to break through and leave for Istanbul using the advantage in speed.
    Steamer frigate "Odessa"
  3. +3
    25 September 2014 10: 50
    Who was afraid for Vladimir? Butakov was sent to rather risky operations.
    For example, an attack on a French camp (Nakhimov’s order)
    Vladimir and Khersones constantly went to the shelling positions helping defense.
    Their red-hot shells and bombs have repeatedly saved the situation. If there were more of them, it would be better. They fired well on the allies on the flank.
    It seems to me that even the officials themselves were not against steamboats and the conservatism of sailors (many are very conservative) but the logistics of coal. And education. Need mechanics stokers and others ...
    The education of sailors was already technical.
    Let me remind you that the RJV sailors were much more educated shooters. The technical revolution in the fleet required educated people much faster.
    1. 0
      28 September 2014 11: 59
      Popov is actually well done. He went a little over
      with a round case, but the main idea was perfectly true -
      an armadillo, like a floating tank: not a lot of guns,
      and a couple are enough - but very powerful. Plus thick armor.
      Getting into a small ship from afar is much more difficult
      than in the big one, and he himself with his super-guns can
      send one shell to the bottom of anyone.
  4. avt
    +3
    25 September 2014 12: 39
    Quote: Cristall
    It seems to me that even the officials themselves were not against steamboats and the conservatism of sailors (many are very conservative) but the logistics of coal. And education. Need mechanics stokers and others ...
    The education of sailors was already technical.

    I would say otherwise - the myth about the stupidity of Nicholas No. 1 from the times of the USSR in relation to the steam fleet is in fact pure propaganda of "backwardness under tsarism", which, however, did not stop the same propagandists from comparing the USSR with Russia in 1913, and the admirals were not such stupid supporters sails, they fully understood all the advantages and disadvantages.The reality was that there was no production capacity in Russia for a sufficiently fast rearmament for a steam drive - they bought cars and ordered ships in the same England - Vladimir is an example of this. Yes, and the question of the propeller - wheels or propeller, was also not because of retrogradeness. They just groped for the development of propellers by experience. The same masterpiece, Great Eastern, for example, being for its time a giant ship with an iron hull - much more progressive that had wheels, propellers, and even a bunch of masts with sails.As for the Crimean campaign specifically, for a minute, Russia was opposed by TWO industrialized countries with the involvement of auxiliary ships from all over the world on a commercial basis.And even then in the Baltic at Nepir it ended in nothing - practically a shame , and in Kamchatka and Solovki in general, the triumph of the Russian spirit, will and competent command of available forces and means.
    1. 0
      25 September 2014 13: 34
      Nicholas 1st earned the nickname "Nikolai Palkin" for a reason. it
      not the Bolsheviks came up with. Died under stick punishments or
      many soldiers were crippled. And such methods did not contribute
      the emergence of "military specialists" among junior ranks.
      Under Nikolay the 1st, the process of transforming Russia into
      industrial power. What had to catch up with the kings of Alexander -
      2nd and 3rd.
      The braking of Nikolai Palkin affected the Crimean War. Troops
      England and France turned out to be equipped for a generation more perfect
      weapons. What had to compensate for the huge losses in bayonet attacks.
      The main ally of Russia was the epidemic of cholera and typhoid, which mowed down
      camps of Europeans.
      1. +3
        25 September 2014 16: 23
        Not exactly.
        First, corporal punishment was then a normal practice in all armies. And in English as well as the main means of education. And until the 70s of the 20th century, if not mistaken.
        Immediately at the turn of the 40s and 50s of the 19th century, Nicholas 1, began the technical re-equipment of both the army and navy. But its pace was very low due to the enormous lag in Russian industry. In fact, it was a disparate manufactory with embryonic technologies. And only one ruler of Russia was able to create industry from scratch in 10-15 years.
        Regarding bayonet attacks:
        Many rifle battalions were trained in the loose formation and the conduct of fire fighting, but most senior officers still did not take him seriously in Napoleonic times.
        The most interesting thing is that in the bayonet attacks of the Russian infantry the losses were lower, and at times more than that of the coalition armies.
        The bottom line:
        Russia - 143000 dead and deceased (although according to other estimates about 200)
        Coalition - 167400 dead and deceased
        About the same percentage in all armies died of disease.
        1. Kassandra
          -1
          30 October 2014 19: 23
          it’s not at all certain - serfdom was abolished by Nikolai the 1st, his son only signed a decree.

          of the world at that time, only English industry was superior to Russian because of the low transportation costs for raw materials and semi-finished products - there, on the island they had everything they needed before oil.

          ore and coal are needed for iron smelting, and in Russia where there is coal, there is no ore, and vice versa.

          England dared to take a coalition adventure in the Republic of Ingushetia because it ceased to depend on imports of Russian canvas, wood and hemp.
          before that it was so dirty - Ushakov in the Mediterranean fought not so much with the French as they crushed their pirates attacking Russian shipping.
          Nelson was furious because of this, since he was not fit for soles, the English still turn brown under his name.

          it did not bring any benefits to it like the Russian-Japanese war — on the contrary, because of these two wars, their empire ceased to exist after half a century or a century and turned into the 51st state, since the balance of power in the world has changed. while Russia, still heavily nibbled on 1/8 of the land and with its entire cosmonautics and strategic nuclear forces, still exists. tongue
          so what did they achieve?

          now the post-Soviet engineers will completely stop immigrating, working in the other 50 states and diluting their rotten blood there, and these creatures will simply degenerate completely.
          there and the road ...
  5. +1
    25 September 2014 13: 38
    In the days of the USSR, they did not write about the stupidity of Nicholas I and Alexander III. This is clearly seen, for example, in Melnikov’s books on the fleet published in the 70-80gg of the 20 century. Therefore, they compared with Russia the 1913 of the year, while the backlog left by Alexander III was still alive. Under him, the fleet of the country was recreated, with a modern armored one, and with a single reasonable Program for the construction of fleets. But under Nicholas the reeling began. Which was caused by the personal interests of members of the august family who lobbied the same French firms that distributed kickbacks and helped steal budget funds. And Nicholas II ... Yes, what can I say about him? So everything is clear ....
    1. Kassandra
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      30 October 2014 19: 08
      in that case it’s clear with you ... maybe you consider yourself better and smarter than him? then why aren’t you the Tsar, or at least the Prime Minister? or now there as in the EU take only official lesbians?
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    25 September 2014 17: 34
    I think that the famous English shipbuilder E. Reed would not speak highly of the combat power of Peter the Great if there were four 85mm guns in two towers. The fact is that in the battleship's towers there were actually four 305mm guns, well for clarity, extremely approximately, the weight of the side salvo in the first case is about 20 kg, and in the second 1200 kg, inevitably you will start scratching your turnips - what can you oppose to such firepower. In addition, a long time ago, back in school, I read that in the Central Naval The museum kept (is) part of the side of this ship .... about 1 meter thick! The armor, the shirt under the armor, the steel of the hull all together make up this thickness. The service life does not need comments: it was laid down in 1869, dismantled for scrap in 1959 !! !
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    8 October 2014 13: 53
    However, the topic is widely discussed and considered under a "magnifying glass" ... IMHO only that in
    REV many failures and outright blunders come from the experience of the Crimean company.
    Eastern war showed the degree of technical and cultural backwardness RI.RYAV
    IMHO war showed that technically RI began to close the gap. But PMV - that technological progress is not only quantity, but also quality. Which in turn
    confirmed WWII. The technique requires constant improvement of users ...
    Such a series of mutual influence came out of me ...
    1. Kassandra
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      30 October 2014 19: 05
      this your "RYAV" showed how much they love us all over the world (this time even as America, which was an ally before - read Pikul), and it was stopped because it was going to be launched according to the Crimean scenario with the direct participation of the coalition forces in it. side of Japan, who previously helped her only with weapons and advisers.

      and what kind of technical and especially cultural backwardness of the Republic of Ingushetia? almost the rest of the world what hygiene was only discovered in 1910 (in Paris there were 2 bathrooms)

      What is the Russian Academy of Sciences do you know? In which Leonard Euler considered working for an honor?
      What is the Ural industrial region do you know? from him the Poles fell into a stupor in the Time of Troubles.

      do not read many English newspapers - there they will not teach you anything good ...