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Indian FGFA armed with rockets "Astra" and "Brahmos"

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The first flight of the Indian prototype of the FGFA aircraft being developed jointly with Russia is scheduled for 2016, reports Military Parity with reference to airnewstimes.com.

Indian FGFA armed with rockets "Astra" and "Brahmos"


It is reported that by the end of this year, Russia and India in the face of the companies HAL and Sukhoi intend to conclude a basic agreement on this program (the preliminary parties were signed back in 2010). According to the magazine "Rise", the contract will take into account the requirements of the Indian company.

According to the authors of the publication, "in this agreement there will be points on the integration of Indian-made missiles into the FGFA fighter - the Astra air battlefield and the BraMos cruise missile developed jointly with Russia."

In addition, the share of the Indian side in technical development will be increased from 18 to 40%. Previously, information was published that both countries will order 200 aircraft for their air forces. The total cost of the program for Indian partners will be about $ 30 billion. According to experts, FGFA will surpass Japanese and Chinese 5 fighter jets in its characteristics.

Guided missile "Astra".

Cruise missile "BraMos".
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  1. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 23 September 2014 19: 06
    +11
    Fine. It would be nice. if both countries order 200 cars each. soldier
    1. clidon
      clidon 23 September 2014 21: 25
      +2
      Hindus have already reduced the order to 140-150 aircraft.
      1. velikoros-xnumx
        velikoros-xnumx 23 September 2014 22: 12
        0
        Quote: clidon
        140-150 aircraft.

        Perhaps this is a reaction to the too little participation of Indian aircraft manufacturers in the project, and of course, an element of a kind of blackmail of Russia with a view to increasing Indian participation and more complete and closer familiarization of the Indians with critical technologies of the project.
        1. zg78u5
          zg78u5 24 September 2014 00: 24
          0
          Hindus well done .... a bit of our technology ... etc ...
        2. clidon
          clidon 24 September 2014 16: 19
          0
          Rather, it is a reaction to the rise in the cost of the program. Although, of course, there was information about the complaints of the Indians about the small participation and "closeness" of the Russian side.
    2. Giant thought
      Giant thought 23 September 2014 21: 35
      0
      So you can understand that a lot will depend on the financial capabilities of the participants. But it is clear that the joint cooperation of our countries on this issue is already yielding positive results.
    3. The comment was deleted.
  2. TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 23 September 2014 19: 06
    +4
    Something India has recently been sticking our sticks in the wheel. Reins, chtol, beguiled? Do not believe in their loyalty. And I did not hear about the 5th generation Japanese fighters. This article is disingenuous.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 23 September 2014 19: 22
      +2
      No one there is nothing popping. Kickbacks are unbearable from Russian suppliers. That’s all for a short time. laughing The system needs to be changed. Not in India, of course.
    3. The comment was deleted.
    4. enot73
      enot73 23 September 2014 19: 29
      +5
      Quote: TECHNAR
      I didn’t hear about 5th generation Japanese fighters.


      According to news agencies, Japan postponed the first flight of its latest fifth-generation Mitsubishi ATD-X Shinshin aircraft to the end of 2015. Initially, the flight of the first flight model of the promising fifth-generation ATD-X Shinshin fighter was scheduled for 2014, but was canceled due to difficulties.
      According to unofficial information, the project is slowed down due to difficulties with the Ishikawajima XF5-1 engine
      1. Manul
        Manul 23 September 2014 20: 45
        +2
        Quote: enot73
        fifth generation aircraft Mitsubishi ATD-X Shinshin

        But the concept is undeniably beautiful and elegant ..
        1. massad1
          massad1 23 September 2014 21: 35
          0
          I can not agree - pretty smile
      2. TECHNOLOGY
        TECHNOLOGY 23 September 2014 21: 06
        0
        Oh yeah. The F-15 analog is in Japanese guise. But this is far from the 5th generation.
    5. fox21h
      fox21h 23 September 2014 20: 09
      +1
      Want more info
    6. fzr1000
      fzr1000 23 September 2014 20: 44
      +1
      there was an article about the Japanese fifth generation
      1. Afblgh
        Afblgh 23 September 2014 21: 01
        +1
        This is just a technology demonstrator, the Japanese want to test the technology of the 5th generation on it, and then build the 6th, the first flight in 2022, the adoption of 2026
    7. clidon
      clidon 23 September 2014 21: 26
      +1
      India is a country that pays and now has the opportunity to choose. Moreover, they generally don’t like our hugs with China.
      The 5th generation Japanese fighter is the ATD-X being developed.
      1. just exp
        just exp 23 September 2014 21: 57
        0
        Indians first began to twist backwards with the states and the EU.
        1. clidon
          clidon 23 September 2014 22: 01
          +1
          That is, it was not we who sold Su-30 (destroyers, submarines, missiles) and the engines that they put on fighters for Pakistan to China? Didn't we sell Islamabad 80 Mi-8 helicopters?
          While the Indians were under sanctions, they had nowhere to go ...
  3. Gagarin
    Gagarin 23 September 2014 19: 09
    +4
    Quote: TECHNAR
    .And I didn’t hear about Japanese 5th generation fighters

    There was a thing, the Japanese boasted, they said terrible how good it would be ... soon ...
    "...And nothing has changed!"
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 23 September 2014 19: 40
      +2
      There was a thing, the Japanese boasted, they said terrible how good it would be ... soon ...
      "...And nothing has changed!"

      Japanese in their own style. Some of their VPKshnikov said, "The EPR of our IPP will be more than that of a bee, but less than that of a sparrow." The funny thing is that many people believe in it. laughing
    2. clidon
      clidon 23 September 2014 21: 27
      +1
      Why is it there now? The case is slowly moving.
  4. cerbuk6155
    cerbuk6155 23 September 2014 19: 11
    +2
    Our developments together with INDIA are worth a lot. good drinks
    1. zennon
      zennon 23 September 2014 19: 39
      +1
      Quote: cerbuk6155
      Our developments together with INDIA are worth a lot.

      the share of the Indian side in technical development will be increased from 18 to 40%.

      Yes ... As Professor Preobrazhensky used to say: "The house is gone. What will happen to the steam heating? .."
  5. Arh
    Arh 23 September 2014 19: 14
    +1
    Cheers India Russia Friends !!!
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 23 September 2014 19: 38
      +4
      Hurray, tomorrow we will build a destroyer with Mongolia !!! good good good
      1. mitrich
        mitrich 23 September 2014 20: 42
        +3
        And then SSBNs from Zimbabwe!
        Is it like "will be better than Chinese and Japanese"? The most important thing for us is mattress ones, what would be better than their rapters-shmapters ...
      2. mitrich
        mitrich 23 September 2014 20: 42
        0
        And then SSBNs from Zimbabwe!
        Is it like "will be better than Chinese and Japanese"? The most important thing for us is mattress ones, what would be better than their rapters-shmapters ...
      3. massad1
        massad1 23 September 2014 21: 38
        0
        why the hell is the destroyer in the steppe? belay Or will the Mongolian crew? laughing then it’s more likely a CARRIER laughing
  6. Gagarin
    Gagarin 23 September 2014 19: 21
    +3
    Quote: TECHNAR
    5th generation Japanese fighters have not heard

    Here he is, what a beast, it’s already scary, he’ll draw a beautiful background and will be almost ready.
  7. FREGATENKAPITAN
    FREGATENKAPITAN 23 September 2014 19: 24
    +1
    Hindi Russi. bhai bhai !!!!! We must be friends with the Indians, they will be more reliable than the Chinese allies!
  8. Magic archer
    Magic archer 23 September 2014 19: 26
    +1
    I wonder what kind of Astra is ...
  9. Roman 1977
    Roman 1977 23 September 2014 19: 28
    +1
    Indian Air Force Combat Aircraft

    India today has produced more than 350 proprietary warplanes of its own design and this number will creak but grow.
    1) HAL HF-24 "Marut"
    This fighter-bomber was created by aircraft designer K. Tank in 1961. 2 licensed British engines Bristol Siddley "Orpheus" (a promising Egyptian engine was planned. In 1967-77 147 "Maruts" were produced. They took part in the Indo-Pakistani war of 1971. They were removed from service.
    Speed ​​up to 1110 km / h, max take-off weight 10,9 t, ceiling 13800 m, armament 4 guns (30-mm), up to 1,8 t combat load
    2) HAL HJT-16 "Kiran"
    This UBS was created in 1964. Licensed Rolls-Royce Viper engine. In 1968-85, 190 Kirans were produced. Are in service. They did not participate in the database.
    Speed ​​up to 700 km / h, max take-off weight 4,2 t, ceiling 9200 m, armament 2 machine gun (7,62-mm in a hanging container) or 230 kg combat load
    3) HAL LCA "Tejas"
    Light fighter "Tejas" flew for the first time in 2001. The creation of the aircraft is going very hard - it was not possible to create its own engine (Kaveri) (despite the help of our and French specialists), there are problems with an advantage. Engine - American General Electric F404. Radar - Israeli Elta M-2032 (a new radar with AFAR is planned). In small-scale production since 2007, 14 Tejas were produced (including prototypes), 54 vehicles were ordered (a deck version is also planned), the plan is 230. In trial operation.
    Speed ​​up to 1920 km / h, max take-off weight 13,3 t, ceiling 15300 m, armament 1х2 guns (23-mm), up to 4 t combat load
    4) HAL HJT-36 "Sitara"
    This UBS was created in 2003. The engine is our licensed (in the plans) Saturn AL-55 (development is 2 years behind the plan). In small-scale production since 2009. 4 Sitars have been produced (including prototypes), 15 aircraft have been ordered so far, the contract for 73 aircraft has been postponed, the plan is 200. On testing. However, on August 5 this year, Indian Defense Minister Arun Jaytli announced that the country's Air Force was forced to abandon the operation of the HJT-36 Sitara. It was decided to withdraw the aircraft from service within several years. HAL Corporation was never able to solve the design flaws of the wing and airframe. The Air Force will announce a tender to select an alternative type of TCB.
    http://vpk.name/news/114959_v_indii_progremel_pohoronnyii_marsh_po_uts_sitara.ht

    ml

    Speed ​​to 1000 km / h, max take-off weight 4,6 tons, ceiling 9000 m, weapons of the 2 machine gun (12,7-mm in a hanging container) up to 1 tons of combat load
    In addition, there was an extensive program of licensed production: British Nat (316 aircraft, including the Edgit variant), Jaguar (116, including the French version, production continues), Hawk (46, production continues), there are reports about the production of "Vampire" Mk.52 and T.55, but I did not find confirmation and numbers - if anyone shares - I will be grateful! And our planes: MiG-21 (657 fighters, 220-bis only screwdriver assembly), MiG-27 (in India, "Bahadur", 165) and Su-30MKI (assembly from aircraft kits with growing localization, 120, production continues. All of this gives India nearly 1.800 aircraft.
  10. Mercenary
    Mercenary 23 September 2014 19: 28
    +6
    Enrages the phrase: the requirements of the Indian company are taken into account. Now is not the year 90 when in some ways they even saved our defense industry. Now you can try to demand from Pakistan (here he will send you).
    1. Dimka off
      Dimka off 24 September 2014 11: 06
      0
      Quote: Mercenary
      Enrages the phrase: the requirements of the Indian company are taken into account

      That's for sure. I don’t understand at all, Russia itself can make these weapons, why all this cooperation? It is clear that the strengthening of friendship and so on was blah blah blah, but today the Indians or the Chinas are with us and tomorrow the enemies. What then when their weapons in strength will be like ours? Stupid collaboration
  11. Wedmak
    Wedmak 23 September 2014 19: 29
    +5
    Why do we need FGFA troops? T-50 is (will be). And the Indian, if I understand correctly, a slightly simplified version of the T-50. Yes, and focused on the Indians.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 23 September 2014 19: 50
      +4
      Why do we need FGFA troops? T-50 is (will be). And the Indian, if I understand correctly, a slightly simplified version of the T-50. Yes, and focused on the Indians.

      But the Indians have a strictly opposite opinion, they say, not only will the FGFA be an order of magnitude cooler than the PAK FA, but it (the first one) will still be just a step in front of the Indian prodigy of 5 +++ generation. Honestly annoying. They already got everyone with pride for their Bramos, and they don’t say that Bramos is just a slightly modified Yakhont (but still worse than Onyx), now another achievement of the Indian military-industrial complex on the way. What is India doing for FGFA? Conder for the radar, the details of the chassis (not even the entire chassis) and something there on the little things.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 23 September 2014 20: 26
        +3
        they say that not only will the FGFA be an order of magnitude cooler than the PAK FA, but it (the first one) will still be just a step before the Indian prodigy of 5 +++ generation.

        Yeah ?? Rugs for jewelry already twisted? )))
        Actually, we still don't know anything about FGFA. And there is also little information about the T-50. So there is nothing to compare.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 23 September 2014 20: 48
      +4
      Quote: Wedmak
      Yes, and focused on the Indians.

      that is, with garlands of flowers, everything is as it should ... lol
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 23 September 2014 21: 05
        +3
        that is, with garlands of flowers, everything is as it should ...

        Garlands of flowers and other decorations are apparently made by the Indian side. laughing
  12. Junior, I
    Junior, I 23 September 2014 19: 33
    0
    Even with China to carry out the same military development and America will cleanse. The Chinese have advanced further.
    If all this in the BRICS space spins, it will be super.
    1. Junior, I
      Junior, I 23 September 2014 19: 50
      0
      Minos frolic laughing
      I don’t have an opinion in my head, from ... you won’t take any experiments.
  13. Wiruz
    Wiruz 23 September 2014 19: 37
    +5
    Let's minus my comment, but the FGFA project needs to be closed. Let Indians buy Su-50 in export modification fool
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 23 September 2014 19: 39
      +2
      Let Indians buy Su-50 in export version

      And we have a type of dofig factories that produce aircraft? And there’s nothing to load their power with?
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 23 September 2014 19: 55
        +3
        And we have a type of dofig factories that produce aircraft? And there’s nothing to load their power with?

        As far as I know, FGFAs are already going to collect in Russia. Hindus even aroused somehow at the expense of this.
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 23 September 2014 20: 20
          +1
          As far as I know, FGFAs are already going to collect in Russia.

          Really? Then you will have to build a couple more plants, purely for PAK FA and FGFA. For all existing ones are already loaded.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 23 September 2014 19: 43
      +3
      Something, with the pace of the Russian aviation industry, they will receive it in 50 years!
      And they need now ... Here they are fussing.
      1. ultra
        ultra 23 September 2014 22: 49
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        with the pace of the Russian aviation industry,

        Even the Russian "pace" is far from the epic of the Indian tank "Arjun", almost 30 years in development. laughing
    3. Anton Gavrilov
      Anton Gavrilov 23 September 2014 19: 44
      +2
      FGFA is the export modification of the T-50 PAK FA, optimized for the requirements of the Indian side!
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 23 September 2014 19: 53
        +1
        FGFA is the export modification of the T-50 PAK FA, optimized for the requirements of the Indian side!

        De facto - YES. De jure - no, these are two different projects: one is Russian, the second is Russian-Indian based on the first. For export to third countries, the Russian-Indian FGFA will also go.
    4. massad1
      massad1 23 September 2014 21: 44
      +1
      quite right - export modification, 30 percent cut by the characteristics in relation to its own. In my opinion, they always did request
    5. Dimka off
      Dimka off 24 September 2014 11: 10
      +1
      Quote: Wiruz
      but the FGFA project must be closed. Let Indians buy Su-50 in export modification

      Absolutely agree. And put a plus hi
  14. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 23 September 2014 19: 39
    +5
    Not the topic, but about the rockets
    At the Novorossiysk Naval Base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, submarines equipped with missiles with a flight range of more than 1,5 thousand kilometers will be deployed. This was announced to President Vladimir Putin, who is on a visit to Novorossiysk, by the commander of the Black Sea Fleet, Admiral Alexander Vitko.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 23 September 2014 19: 57
      +4
      At the Novorossiysk Naval Base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, submarines equipped with missiles with a flight range of more than 1,5 thousand kilometers will be deployed.

      I once heard that the caliber for Russia 3C-14 flies 2,5 thousand km.
      In the spring of this year, one of the deputies of the Black Sea Fleet said that he "personally tested a rocket that flies 2 kilometers and hits an open window."
      Like this good
      1. FREGATENKAPITAN
        FREGATENKAPITAN 23 September 2014 21: 05
        +3
        Our missiles usually fly more than the declared range ....... Submariners are aware of the case when they shot at the firing range (I don’t remember the year and the project .. in my opinion, Granite or Grenade, now I don’t want to dig) the missile flew over the firing range and fell into the lake in Norway (Finland ???) having almost doubled the range .....
        1. Dimka off
          Dimka off 24 September 2014 11: 13
          0
          Quote: FREGATENKAPITAN
          nearly double the range

          Excellent!) So modern rockets are not as simple as they seem)
  15. Wiruz
    Wiruz 23 September 2014 19: 41
    +1
    The first flight of the Indian prototype FGFA aircraft, created jointly with Russia, is scheduled for 2016

    And originally planned for 2014
  16. sv68
    sv68 23 September 2014 19: 49
    +1
    the contract is a contract and, as it were, we would not like it, but the terms of the customer are not an empty word if we want to further promote our equipment around the world. And the Indians if they wanted to expand their participation in the project, let them give guarantees that they will not slow down the project and the components will deliver quality and on time
  17. sv68
    sv68 23 September 2014 19: 51
    +2
    admins - RETURN ME FLAG !!
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 23 September 2014 20: 30
      +2
      Do not brake! We use the situation! Declare a referendum on independence! laughing
  18. lonovila
    lonovila 23 September 2014 19: 52
    +3
    - Russia already has one "problem" - this is China ... - Very soon there will be another "problem" ... - this is India ... - Why should it be so deeply and recklessly "too much" to promote the military development of third-party states ..? - A simple partnership on a more "superficial level" is enough ... - No matter how you regret it later ...
    - “Bolivar” may not stand two ...
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 23 September 2014 20: 32
      +1
      If not us, then they will be picked up by mattresses. Which will also add to our problems.
  19. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 23 September 2014 19: 59
    +1
    Hindus merge under the West. It is evident that the colonial past makes itself felt.
  20. vodolaz
    vodolaz 24 September 2014 02: 32
    +1
    Well done Hindus, in the right direction.