China showed the latest short-range and medium-range air defense systems

At the arms exhibition in Africa, Africa Aerospace and Defense 2014, Norinco (China) demonstrated the upgraded mobile air defense systems Sky Dragon 50 (medium range) and Sky Dragon 12 (short range), reports Military Parity with reference to "janes.com".

Launcher "Sky Dragon 50" is equipped with four missiles. According to the developer, "SRA is at the final stage of testing." Together with the installation, the company brought the IBIS-200 S-band targeting radar to the exhibition, which has “high combat survivability and good EW potential”.

According to the company, “the radar is designed to combat all types of aircraft, helicopters, UAVs and CUs at medium and ultra-low altitudes. The radar has a detection range of 250 km, which is significantly longer than that of the IBIS-150 (130 km), and the target indication range is 150 km. ” The equipment is placed on two trucks and can be deployed in 15 minutes.

Help "Military parity": "Sky Dragon 50" is capable of hitting targets at a distance of 3-50 km and altitudes from 100 to 65000 feet (from 30 to 21000 m), shooting at 12 targets at the same time in shot-and-forget mode is possible. The missile system is equipped with an inertial guidance system and an active radar homing system that can hit targets flying at speeds above 1000 m / s and maneuvering with overloads up to 38g. ”.

Norinco is also developing the Sky Dragon 12 short-range air defense system. “The self-propelled PU is equipped with 12 rockets and can simultaneously fire four targets at a distance from 2 to 12 km, altitudes from 50 to 16500 feet (from 15 to 5000). The complex is equipped with the FW2 shooting control system and IBIS-80 target-tracking radar. ”, - says the company press release. According to its representatives, an upgraded version of the launcher with its own radar has already been created, which "ensures the full combat autonomy of the complex."

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[Dwarfik]

recognizably ...

[Revolver]

Quote: Dwarfik

recognizably ...

It looks like a seamless S-300. Will it work like the original, or, as always, "the world-famous Made in China quality"?

[Stypor23]

Quote: Paradoxov

Quality can be very different with the "Made in China" label

Right now, the abbreviation PRC is already more common.

[jjj]

Quote: Nagan

It looks like a completely seamless C-300

And the launch, however, is not vertical ...

[donavi49]

You collapsed from oak ???? They have С-300ПМУ and a license for the 2 / 3 complex, from which HQ-9 and all development are made. It is being built in series, has already been modernized and is offered for export (there was a whole scandal with Turkey when Erdogan sent messengers and the contract began to be sculpted).


Moreover, NIIP with Altair sold Calm and participated in the creation of HQ-16. In all respects it is better than the Buk-M2 and is perhaps the best in the world serial complex of the SAM air defense system.



Sky Dragon is a homeless option for bananas. The bottom line is simple - a light missile, if possible in cooperation with the BB in the form of air defense systems with minimal modifications. The Chinese are making great strides in this, they have furnished our navy, for we are flexible and everything, and they already have a family of high-performance ones. Not ROME-116 of course, but nothing too.

[Argyn]

Quote: donavi49

Moreover, NIIP with Altair sold Calm and participated in the creation of HQ-16. In all respects it is better than the Buk-M2 and is perhaps the best in the world serial complex of the SAM air defense system.

Hurray, patriots will begin to say the opposite without proof, for them the Buk-M2 THE BEST! And the fact that NIIP and Altair helped the Chinese do not take into account. When people understand that China is not the same as it was before, and non-Chinese businessmen give them consumer goods posing as the original!

[ssergn]

I think this is something reminiscent of

Photo of the missile launch of the BUK-M3 air defense missile system, tests 14.12.2011/XNUMX/XNUMX

[ssergn]

If the RF Armed Forces believed that the BUK M2 is "our everything" from medium-range air defense, then they would not develop this:

Self-propelled gun mount 50P6E of the S-350E "Vityaz" system, on the left - radar 50N6E. MAKS-2013 air show, Ramenskoye, 27.08.2013/XNUMX/XNUMX (photo - Vitaly Kuzmin, source).

[sergey261180]

They shoved the R-77 into the first missile, and from the tunguska into the second. At the first, the rocket starts on an inclined plane, which means that almost no changes were made to the R-77.

[Wiruz]

So it’s not just that RVV-AE went for export

[donavi49]

This is the point - the VV missile with minimal modifications, as an effective and cheap air defense system. Americans and Europeans are suffering this way, now the Chinese are.

[Mama_Cholli]

China continues to intensively arm itself ... Why would it?

[Stypor23]

Quote: Mama_Cholli

China continues to intensively arm itself ... Why would it?

The question is irrelevant and naive. Soon the army will be run in, on the southern neighbors.

[Mama_Cholli]

I am not so aware of China's plans. In addition, the weapon has the ability to shoot in any direction, so the irrelevance of the question is in question. Strong China at our side is 50/50.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Mama_Cholli

I'm not so aware of China's plans

Yes, awareness here, as such, is not needed. I sat here and recalled which empire had a powerful army, refused to be tempted to put it into business. So I did not remember.

[Mama_Cholli]

Ah ... I get it. Indeed, it’s hard to resist. Just the question was about it, so to speak, before the eyes of the war, it is ripening. The main thing is that Russia would not be in the list of claims.

[Mama_Cholli]

Ah ... I get it. Indeed, it’s hard to resist. Just the question was about it, so to speak, before the eyes of the war, it is ripening. The main thing is that Russia would not be in the list of claims.

[Dart weyder]

the bottom photo of the pain reminds Pantsyr ... only without the artillery component ... copied externally - interestingly - but the filling !?

[Wiruz]

And to these people Russia still wants to sell the S-400 ...

[Mama_Cholli]

Quote: Wiruz

And to these people Russia still wants to sell the S-400 ...

Not Russia, but some representatives. Which loot love more than life ...

[Wiruz]

Not Russia, but some representatives. Which loot love more than life ...

Less to you. Then Russia did not need loot, but political support, an ally, so to speak. A Chinese beast is cunning, he just is not friends

[Mama_Cholli]

An ally "for the loot" turns out to be an ally only until the moment when he is not offered a high price.
Relationships with such "allies", without regard to the consequences, are strategic miscalculations of those who determine the line of relations of this kind. Such miscalculations bring more harm and much greater expenses for the state than momentary profits and follow as a result of the encouragement of the representatives themselves.

He himself served on the border with China, heard about these "beasts". I am not accustomed to betting cons, all the same you will think your way.))

[Second]

And I served near the border with China. We had officers who actually fought in Damansky. They considered the Chinese more enemies than the Americans. And the Chinese enemies are selling weapons to the real enemies of the people. For Soviet military analysts, everything that is happening now in the field of arms sales to China is just a nightmare. It is their happiness that they did not live to see this. All these liberals several years ago yelled "NATO is our ally and partner! The United States is our ally in the fight against terrorism! Give Russia to Europe! We have no need to fight them, our enemy is terrorism!" and other similar nonsense ... It's now that they stuck their tongues in the ass when the war began. But now all these liberals started yelling something else, "China is our military ally, friend, brother, relative!" etc.

[Mama_Cholli]

And I talked about this ...

[dmitrii35]

Copies from S-300 and Carapace S. They know how to copy!

[Wiruz]

They know how to copy!

Not in the subject, but interesting

[donavi49]

Where?

This is the homeless version with the V-V R-77 missiles or their clones. The whole world is now actively suffering from this. Here are the Americans.

This has nothing to do with adult complexes (in PLA it is HQ-9 and HQ-16).

[basmach]

But the overload of 38g is clearly bent. To reliably defeat the target, the overload of any missile launcher (air or anti-aircraft) must exceed the maximum target overload by at least 2 times (the overload of the fighter is no more than 8g, the V-B missiles have an overload of up to 20g), and here missiles can withstand up to 76G. Will it not break? What is it made of? Maybe they forgot the comma. But then the parameters are pretty mediocre.

[Mama_Cholli]

The overload of a fighter is not determined by the strength of the material, but by the maximum overload that a person can withstand. And it seems like he (the person) can withstand even more than 8 for a short time (of course, the trained individual).

[basmach]

The pilot, even taking into account the anti-overload suit, does not hold more than 6-7g. When overloaded already in 3G, blood flows from head to toe and turns black in the eyes of the flyer. The suit is connected to the automatic control unit and when the overload is increased, pressure is applied to the hoses (directly proportional to the overload ). There is a compression of the legs, respectively, and a smaller outflow of blood, which allows you to transfer a large overload. And yet, there are no centrifuges in the shelves to train flyers (not astronauts), they are not trained at all in this regard, but the vestibule, yes, but these are different things.

[Mama_Cholli]

I will not argue, maybe you are right. Only recently has information slipped somewhere that a person is able to withstand short-term overloads close to 10. Perhaps this source was a zombie creator (I don’t remember) and techno-type transmissions ...

[Ivan Petrovich]

overload 3 and turns black in the eyes of the pilot? :) discovery

[Mama_Cholli]

Blackens in the eyes, this is not a discovery ... A discovery is that the plane is capable of a couple .. and stay in the sky for more seconds, and the pilot has the option of conditionally speaking smoking a cigarette to continue flying. (Unless of course it was not on the ground). The question was a little different. Correct if I put it wrong.

[Mama_Cholli]

Blackens in the eyes, this is not a discovery ... A discovery is that the plane is capable of a couple .. and stay in the sky for more seconds, and the pilot has the option of conditionally speaking smoking a cigarette to continue flying. (Unless of course it was not on the ground). The question was a little different. Correct if I put it wrong.

[AlexAl]

For normal zur 50-75G, this is the performance. Does the Chinese answer the question? The problem with c300 missiles is the material of the cone of the fairing. Accelerations such that ordinary ceramics do not emit accelerations or are destroyed by sharp expansion during instant heating due to air resistance. According to the c300, it’s not for nothing that the developers of the state. Prizes were given in due time. There was a book on the Internet with an article on the problems of creating a c300 dedicated to the anniversary of the developer.

[Patriot.ru.]

Pope was jailed for stealing information on the Shkval torpedo. Even though we were selling them all over the world then.

[Stypor23]

Quote: Patriot.ru.

Pope jailed for stealing information on the Shkval torpedo

Quickly released, Russia in 2000 is not a rival to mattresses

Quote: Patriot.ru.

Although we then sold them around the world.

Who but China, for example?

[Patriot.ru.]

I don’t remember exactly who, but the sga had them disassembled, at least from our "brothers" Ukrainians, and they still needed additional info.

[Barakuda]

Against "Armor", "Torah" and "Buk" they have a rest. And so, let them build ... while the air defense is 15 years behind.

[Wiruz]

And so, let them build themselves ... while in air defense they are 15 years behind.

And in what they do not lag behind? I mean the military-industrial complex. The pace of work is amazing, but it was still done in the Land of Soviets 40 years ago. About quality I generally keep quiet

[donavi49]

There is no beech, they have a more efficient complex, NIIP and Altair have put all their heart and soul into HQ-16.

6 the most advanced vertical-launch missiles in salvo.
New radar and control system.
Efficient chassis and comfortable placement for long duty on the field.

[Cenij150814]

As I understand it, this system has one significant the advantage over the Buk is an improved missile of the same Buk-M2, with a significant minus because, as reported, "the combat vehicle of the HQ-16 air defense missile system should simultaneously launch no more than two missiles, this is due to the fact that four machines with a launcher in an anti-aircraft the battery has only one illumination and guidance radar "

[jetfors_84]

that all this recalls the familiar

[Argyn]

Duc Russian minds for big money help the Chinese to make weapons here and the resemblance! The Chinese do not spare money on good weapons and remember the lessons.

[Drunya]

War diary of Igor Korotchenko
Who handed over to Beijing the design documentation for the S-300 air defense system ????
I got acquainted in detail with the exposition of the People's Republic of China at the African Aerospace & Defense 2014 arms exhibition - the conclusions are disappointing: the Chinese continue to actively promote clones of Russian air-defense systems on the world market.

I took a picture against the background of the FD-2000 (HQ-9) ZRS prototype - this is a Chinese clone of the Russian S-300 system. How did Beijing manage to access the design documentation for this air defense system? Obviously illegal - which means that one of the Chinese special services has worked.

I immediately recalled the situation when the former general director of GSKB "Almaz-Antey" Igor Ashurbeyli, removed from his post for disrupting the state defense order for the S-400, as a "pilgrim" (with the first form of access to state secrets of Russia) went to the "holy places" - through China to Israel. This is impossible in any other country in the world, but in Russia it is easy! Indeed, we are witnessing a miracle when a former Azerbaijani cooperative under the nose of the FSB freely travels abroad - and the first form of admission is not an obstacle for him. It was clearly not without the intervention of divine forces!

http://i-korotchenko.livejournal.com/940401.html
and read comments.

[fridge]

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[Ryuuk]

Hmm ... Recently, news from the Chinese side about the adoption or commissioning of new types of weapons has become more frequent ... It does not matter whether they are copied or not. The only thing that matters is that:
1. The level of technology copied by China has increased by a very decent amount. This also applies to their own developments. (I hope there are few people who are still convinced that China is not more difficult than knitwear and cheap household goods to produce)))
2. In China, almost everything that has been successfully tested is put into serial production and the pace of equipping the military unit with new equipment is quite high.
3. Immediately recalls the military doctrine of China and his plans for the achievement of his army a certain power by different years. Moreover, China is steadily following this doctrine.