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More than eighty Ukrainian military left the ATO zone without permission and arrived in Nikolaev

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On Friday, more than 80 of Ukrainian troops from the 19 Battalion of Territorial Defense left the ATO area without permission and arrived in the city of Nikolaev. They don't consider themselves deserters. This is reported by the online newspaper Mk.mk.ua.



According to the publication, the position left the entire 1-i company and several fighters from other companies. The military do not deny that they left the anti-terrorist operation zone without an order, but to fight, not having weaponsno longer want.

"Our battalion was sent to the front line, but it was designed so that we would guard roadblocks in the city of Nikolaev, but for some reason we were sent to the front line in the Donetsk region. We came under fire without weapons. We used machine guns, grenade launchers, Tanks. So we simply can’t fight. Cannon meat we do not want to be. If the soldiers were given weapons, they would have remained and fought, ”said the foreman of the company.

According to him, those who remained on the front line are intimidated by the commanders, and he pities them.

“We do not consider ourselves to be deserters, we do not run up to our homes, and we have come to our military unit and want to continue our service. We are ready to go further, but with a weapon, ”said the foreman.



This position is held by the rest of the battalion fighters.

“We were just stuck in the landing, told to dig in and wait until they covered us ... this is also not an option, everyone has family houses, children. Therefore, we ourselves decided to leave, the commander did not support, - said one of the military. - When we were leaving (to the east), we were promised that there would be weapons, equipment, we sat for two weeks, none of this happened. We survived only due to the fact that we were in the trenches. ”

Another military man, the driver, told reporters that he had been given a blue civilian truck in which he was supposed to "carry personnel on the battlefield." “This is a living target for terrorists. I refused to leave, ”he added.



The driver told how militiamen once came to them and warned of the danger: “You are standing on that side, we are on this side. They will fire at you in an hour, but it will not be us, it’s some people who want to shoot. ” “Some games ... but well, at least they warned, we managed to hide, because the shelling began in half an hour,” he said.

According to the military, many of his colleagues do not know how to use weapons. “We have never been to the site. They shoot me, and I have to sit and read with instructions how to approach this grenade launcher, ”the driver complained.

One of his comrades believes that there should be no untrained fighters on the front line. “They can let you down, betray you, they will not be able to hold positions, they will not help, they will run away. And we went there morally unprepared, ”he noted.



Another soldier criticized the commanders for illogical orders: “For example, an order: send without any cover and 20-30 equipment to a zone where enemy troops are seated. I have no normal words to convey this. Tasks still do not understand what were set before us. Initially, a battalion was being prepared for the third line of defense, and we were sent to the front of the unprepared, and for some reason, all the combat-ready troops were behind us. ”



Meanwhile, Alexander Ivanov, a military commissar of the Nikolaev region, stated that the military unit in which the escaped servicemen are going to continue their service (2326 field post) does not exist in Nikolaev, it is located elsewhere. Therefore, what they are doing here, and in what status they are, he has no idea.

“I arrived at night from the place where the fighters were stationed, the ammunition is in sufficient quantity, the heavy weapons came the day before yesterday, there were enough body armor even to secure the transport,” the military commissar said.



Meanwhile, the fighters claim that they have already been removed from their allowances, and what they do next is unknown.
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  1. nikrandel
    nikrandel 22 September 2014 10: 26
    +5


    In Mariupol, 2 teenagers rode bicycles and were near the firing point of the National Guard. Ukrainian militants opened fire on teenagers. The guys started to run down to the beam. The first guy is 17 years old, the second is 19. One of the guys got a bullet in the head, now they are performing complex operations on the 17-year-old teenager in the 5 city hospital.
    1. ispaniard
      ispaniard 22 September 2014 10: 33
      +4
      "UkrDemokratiya" in action ... Mat Lee needs to show this video Psaki, this is "Restrained Power", well, well ...
      1. SS68SS
        SS68SS 22 September 2014 10: 37
        +7
        .... We survived only because we were in the trenches ....


        In autumn and winter, you won’t sit in the trenches for a long time .... It’s wet and cold .... Soon all the Ukrainian fighters will rush home. And they’ll do it right ....
        1. I am a Russian
          I am a Russian 22 September 2014 11: 15
          +1
          Quote: SS68SS
          In autumn and winter you will not sit in the trenches for a long time ...


          Yes, let them sit and not protrude (scummy-assed) So that everyone freezes, and worthy descendants of the victors of fascism, from the Donetsk and Lugansk republics, take all Ukraine under their control.
        2. pravednik
          pravednik 22 September 2014 12: 31
          +1
          Friends! After analyzing all the articles about the Ukrainian Armed Forces, I caught myself thinking that we are teaching them and instructing the military leaders of Ukraine, with these articles, how to deal with militias. It turns out that we are trying to teach them how to analyze each operation, but at the same time we shout that they say we are for New Russia .
          1. I am a Russian
            I am a Russian 23 September 2014 19: 53
            +1
            Quote: pravednik
            Friends! After analyzing all the articles about the Ukrainian Armed Forces, I caught myself thinking that we are teaching them and will teach the military leaders of Ukraine


            Well, military leaders are unlikely ... but it is real to get a certain kind of information on forums. Especially if you hurt the pride of some forum fighter in the rank of "H".
        3. Antor
          Antor 22 September 2014 13: 48
          +3
          The logic of these ukrovoins amazes me ...!?
          Speaking about the fact that they don’t want to be cannon fodder, as they have families, wives, children, but with full arms, they are ready to fight further ..!
          And against one of the militias who have already pulled them out of the world, one can say, warning that they will be fired from guns in half an hour, which actually happened .. !!!
          Where is the conscience of these people being asked, against whom are they going to fight again, against the same militias who have already saved them .. !!!
          Here Ukrainians are ungrateful and it was worth saving them if they again want to bring Death, grief and tears to the population in New Russia ??
          You can, of course, play endlessly in nobility, but with whom, with the "noble knight executioners from the Aydar battalion" or just such simple ukrovoyaks, just give them weapons and teach them how to shoot Svidomo !?
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      3. viktorrymar
        viktorrymar 22 September 2014 13: 33
        +7
        Kiev. Our days. I stand in line at the cash desk at Silpo. In front of me are two ragulikhs with Lviv beer. The first says:
        - And about our beer, they’re also shooting videos.
        The second:
        - Yes! His still Lviv brewer created in the 19th century, he had a huge love with one girl! They even erected a monument in Lviv - Robert and Zosya! It was from them - (ATTENTION !!!) - that Shakespeare copied "Romeo and Juliet".
        I can not stand it and ask:
        “But nothing that Shakespeare died FOR A COUPLE OF CENTURIES BEFORE THEM?”
        And this young lady answers me:
        - Ok, you, your soviet brahneay fuck me our Ukrainian
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    3. zeleznijdorojnik
      zeleznijdorojnik 22 September 2014 11: 20
      +1
      The video is somehow uninformative. Plus to everything that the 19-year-old "boy" is not in the army? On a bike, you know, he rides in a war zone ...
    4. Dezinto
      Dezinto 22 September 2014 11: 53
      +1
      PSDTS !!! Ep ... all the Nazis!

      They are that the 17 year old was great for a threat to themselves !! ???

      Everything is in equipment, in super equipment, kneecaps and thermal imagers ... er, panties and NATO helmets - _to !! to shoot boys on the greats !!!
    5. vjhbc
      vjhbc 22 September 2014 13: 27
      0
      NATIONAL SYMBOLS http://dg54.mycdn.me/getImage?photoId=602581705775&photoType=0
  2. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 22 September 2014 10: 33
    +5
    "... and they don't know what to do next." Options 3: in the army of Novorossiya; get caught; or the SBU surrender.
  3. Andrey Russky
    Andrey Russky 22 September 2014 10: 33
    +3
    "the weapons came up the day before yesterday, bulletproof vests were enough even to secure transport"

    some kind of idiocy. Are they lining up truck bodies with bulletproof vests?
    "nickname" and "psakia" of the brain. and the feeling that the general ...
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  5. sever.56
    sever.56 22 September 2014 10: 34
    +18
    “We are ready to move on, but with weapons!” Said the foreman ... “So don't fucking feel sorry for them. Beat to the end. You see, there would be a weapon - they would calmly kill.
    1. doctor
      doctor 22 September 2014 10: 45
      +3
      They lie. They do not want to die. Run the banderlogs.
    2. Roshchin
      Roshchin 22 September 2014 10: 52
      +6
      They took up arms and stood up for the defense of the fascist-Bandera regime; they became Bandera henchmen. They complain that they were not trained to use weapons. First of all, they did not learn to use their own head, which they agree to substitute for bullets for the Waltsman-Kolomoisky case. We agree to fight with the militia, but to be safe, satisfying, warm and dry. No bulletproof vests, helmets and American blankets will help them. They must learn to use their own brains and understand who the real enemy is.
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 22 September 2014 11: 43
        +1
        Quote: Grove
        They must learn to use their own brains and understand who the real enemy is.

        If there were brains ...

        "So we simply can’t fight. Cannon meat we do not want to be. If the soldiers were given weapons, they would stay and fight"- i.e. we would kill if we did NOT kill.
        And this is what the Russian guys from Russian Nikolaev say.
  6. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 22 September 2014 10: 34
    +1
    fascists mock civilians
  7. Carlos
    Carlos 22 September 2014 10: 46
    +2
    Normal pissed meat of war. It would be more like that. It will be easier for the militia.
  8. Dobrov
    Dobrov 22 September 2014 10: 49
    +3
    It would be better if a large number of Ukrainian prisoners of war were left on the Donbas in prisoner of war camps until the national economy was completely restored, otherwise, damn it, a goodwill gesture was given by 1200 prisoners for no reason. Also, the Russian border guards sent a lot of Ukrainians to the Ukrainians, and they probably later went to kill the Donetsk and Luhansk people again. Enough snot tongue lick !!!!!
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  10. Fast
    Fast 22 September 2014 10: 54
    +1
    "Army" disperses ... (Humor FM - I just hid, and then ran away, the bastards gave a blue car ...)!

    They need to paint all the cars in blue and start with the commander!
  11. Seva
    Seva 22 September 2014 10: 56
    +1
    herds of ukrobaranov roam through fields and forests without shepherds))
  12. Gomel
    Gomel 22 September 2014 10: 59
    0
    strange war
  13. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 September 2014 11: 03
    +1
    [quote however, no longer want to fight without weapons. ]

    Now, if 8000 left their positions and came to Kiev to say that they do not want to fight with their Ukrainians anymore, that would be news, but so ... Everyday desertion of normal kaklov, for whom the main thing is to "tilki for sebe" ...
  • gor530
    gor530 22 September 2014 12: 26
    +1
    Quote: nikrandel
    Another soldier criticized the commanders for illogical orders: “For example, an order: send without any cover and 20-30 equipment to a zone where enemy troops are seated. I have no normal words to convey this. Tasks still do not understand what were set before us. Initially, a battalion was being prepared for the third line of defense, and we were sent to the front of the unprepared, and for some reason, all the combat-ready troops were behind us. ”

    maybe there are difficulties with the translation of the orders given: from Russian to Ukrainian and vice versa?
  • imugn
    imugn 22 September 2014 12: 47
    0
    They are deceived, substituted, sent to death, but they are still ready to go to war.
    1. old man
      old man 22 September 2014 15: 56
      0
      They have a "high fighting spirit"
  • TECHNOLOGY
    TECHNOLOGY 22 September 2014 13: 59
    +1
    Of course, it was necessary to run away from the war. After all, it turns out they are shooting. And they didn’t say this. It’s a pity that the living were gone.
  • ISKANDER25
    ISKANDER25 22 September 2014 15: 24
    0
    Hello! Ukraine is a country of frightened idiots!
  • Reinhard
    Reinhard 22 September 2014 16: 18
    0
    ki! They have children! Then their wives do well. bad grandmothers for the deceased to receive! Well, a man in exchange is very fast! am
  • argon
    argon 22 September 2014 17: 22
    0
    Quote: pravednik
    Friends! After analyzing all the articles about the Ukrainian Armed Forces, I caught myself thinking that we are teaching them and instructing the military leaders of Ukraine, with these articles, how to deal with militias. It turns out that we are trying to teach them how to analyze each operation, but at the same time we shout that they say we are for New Russia .


    How many do not teach a monkey - a person will not work out of it, especially a strategist.
  • Kilo-11
    Kilo-11 22 September 2014 22: 49
    0
    Just a herd, not soldiers! We thought we were going to walk a punitive march around New Russia, it didn’t work, now they’re running, gathering impromptu press conferences and let's talk about how their poor in Novorossia were abandoned and betrayed, but if it were a miracle weapon, we would all of them , they would have reached Moscow at least. Yes, they wouldn’t have reached, weapons still need fighting spirit and mastery of these weapons. Brotherly people, for me there are no cowards and fascists!
  • maxxdesign
    maxxdesign 25 September 2014 09: 18
    0
    "We pissed ourselves off, but we are ready to go on to fight!" ... "Give us a weapon, otherwise we with Kalashs cannot fight against tanks!" ...
    But how did the militia with Berdanks fight against tanks? not even everyone had Kalash! and now they have Kalash and tanks and thousands of shells and ammunition! Thanks to the ukrams who are ready to fight but then!